In Russia, responded to the irony of the US media about the stealth cover of the Su-57 cockpit

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The American media ridiculed the statements of Russian aircraft manufacturers that when assembling the newest Su-57 fighters and new modifications of the Tu-160 strategic bombers, stealth coverage is used for the cabs. Recall that we are talking about the coverage of "Rostec", which significantly reduces radar visibility, without reducing the possibilities of the review for the pilot.





The irony addressed to the Russian development voiced by the authors of the notorious publication The National Interest. The material stated that in the US, this kind of technology is used since the 80-s. NI cites the example of the F-16, whose cabin was developed as part of the program. Have glass. At that time, a coating based on an oxide of indium and tin was used in the USA.

Recall that earlier in the "Rostec" reported covering glass, which approximately doubles the absorption of waves of the radar, reducing the visibility (radar) of the aircraft cockpit by 30 percent. Such coverage will receive not only the above-mentioned Su-57 and Tu-160, but also Su-30CM, Su-34 and Su-35.

Russian military experts responded to the irony in the American media, noting that it is at least strange to reflect on the characteristics of the Russian stealth coverage based on the information provided in the general access mode.

Expert opinion:
The statement about the “old technology” is complete nonsense. Information transmission technology based on electromagnetic waves is also not a dozen years, but this does not mean that it is time to make fun of modern smartphones.
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  1. +34
    15 January 2019 07: 14
    Well, yes, well, yes ... the amers only have to laugh at Russian technologies. Let them draw comics about "Vanguard" ... and he will fly in on occasion.
    1. +14
      15 January 2019 07: 21
      Quote: ochakow703
      Well, yes, yes ... Amers just have to laugh over Russian technologies.

      Anyway, no one will believe this magazine without Dave Majumdar. Here is the "expert" so "expert" was - just got lost somewhere. I am already longing for his "expert" opinions. Roughly as in the geography that J. Psaki described to us - "the healing mountain air in the Rostov region" and "the US fleet off the coast of Belarus."
    2. +1
      15 January 2019 07: 25
      That's when he arrives (and so arrives in the company of Yars and Sarmat (((under the direction of the old Voivode, embracing Satan himself laughing (there will be no time to figure out which of the many-headed ones will be released first, and which will later)), then the usa will have no time for rzhaki, but fresh tens of diapers will require several tens of millions of sets (this is not counting several tens of millions of those who do not need diapers anymore NEVER, but you will need fresh coffins (with a completely unacceptable level of losses laughing )).
      1. +7
        15 January 2019 08: 36
        Quote: hydrox
        Governors in an embrace with Satan himself

        it’s one and the same rocket - R-36m, it’s SS-18 Satan ...
        1. 0
          15 January 2019 09: 13
          Quote: PSih2097
          it’s one and the same rocket - R-36m, it’s SS-18 Satan ...

          T-s-s-s-s, quietly :: you know that, but most don't know, but together this expression looks much more significant. laughing
      2. -3
        15 January 2019 11: 44
        So many hats flew. Everything, the enemy is defeated. And no one considered the probability that this irony is true? There is a backlog and it is huge, no one is considering a budget for a fairy tale about super stealth coverage? I am not saying that this is so. But throwing hats, the right word, is already tired.
        1. +12
          15 January 2019 13: 26
          Quote: shark
          And the probability that this irony is true, no one considered?

          And you don’t consider the fact that this magazine does not stupidly own all the information, just like you do? Or is it easier to write about caps. Some people write about hats, others about diapers ... guys, you have to show them like that for free at the zoo.
          Quote: shark
          There is a backlog and it is huge, no one is considering a budget for a fairy tale about super stealth coverage?

          Is there concrete evidence for this statement?
          1. +2
            16 January 2019 09: 25
            Well, personally, I have many concerns about this. Why the flashlight could not be made unbinding, for example? Even China has mastered it. It is worth looking at the F-22, so you can clearly see the real mishmash of elements of the lantern itself given its color.
        2. +5
          15 January 2019 15: 10
          Whining also bothers! Did not notice?
        3. -1
          15 January 2019 16: 22
          Quote: shark
          no one is considering a budget cut for a fairy tale about super stealth coverage?

          What kind of country is this ?! What kind of budget is this ?! Sawing, sawing and still not sawing. Well, damn it, well, what it is, well, they don’t know how to stealth-cover, nor to cut a budget. Or maybe it's time to change the record. No matter what they begin to do in Russia, then there are screams about cutting the budget. Yes, how much they shout about the cut, during this time it is not that the budget, the Siberian taiga can be cut to the root. Zadolbali, sawyers. It’s time, it’s time to raise Lavrenty Palych and sawed. Here, let them saw at least the forest, at least the budget, improve their skills.
          1. 0
            16 January 2019 00: 08
            Tungsten carbide budget. Therefore, it is sawed for a long time :)
        4. -3
          15 January 2019 20: 30
          Tired - do not read. And we rushed and will rush. The Americans, on the other hand, throw their hats continuously and everywhere. Although they have military successes - the cat wept. There is no lag; there is an excess of the world level. Problems only with money and mass production.
        5. 0
          16 January 2019 17: 51
          There is a backlog and it is huge,

          You are throwing hats .... American.
    3. +6
      15 January 2019 09: 46
      As for Su 57, so far you can only laugh about one thing - the quantity
      1. +8
        15 January 2019 13: 29
        Quote: Vol4ara
        As for Su 57, so far you can only laugh about one thing - the quantity

        A deprived person can laugh with his mind, who does not understand that the preparation for receiving the product by the army, we and the mattresses are different, from the word completely. And the mass SU-57 in the coming years will not be 10, since SU-30СМ and SU-35С are cheaper, and perfectly cope with the tasks that are assigned to them.
        1. 0
          15 January 2019 16: 09
          We have different money and different technical potential. The rest is about the same.
          1. +2
            15 January 2019 16: 11
            Quote: clidon
            We have different money and different technical potential.

            And a different number of bases and expense items on them.
            1. 0
              16 January 2019 16: 39
              Which bases? And what do they have that we don’t have from expenses?
              1. +1
                16 January 2019 17: 55
                Which bases?

                Air Force and Navy. What did you think? laughing
                Based on the fact that the United States has about 700 military bases abroad, you will guess about the costs?
                1. 0
                  18 January 2019 18: 27
                  And how does this affect the cost of technology?
      2. 0
        16 January 2019 18: 32
        You can neigh over anything. Well, we will not have new products in mass production !!! You can analyze the articles of the past years with huge plans for the future. It's 2019. Take a look at GPV until 2020, at least for the fleet. And look at what it is. You can write millions of comments, but the harsh reality is that you should not wait for "hundreds of units" a year.
    4. 0
      15 January 2019 11: 01
      Quote: ochakow703
      Well, yes, well, yes ... the amers only have to laugh at Russian technologies. Let them draw comics about "Vanguard" ... and he will fly in on occasion.

      But what does "Vanguard" have to do with it? Here we are talking about the CAB, on which the stealth coating was applied.
      Why not the whole airplane? How does stealth coverage of the cockpit alone make it difficult to locate an aircraft with a locator? For me this is a great mystery. Maybe someone will explain the dense dense?
      1. +10
        15 January 2019 12: 59
        The stealth properties of an airplane are determined to a greater extent by its shape, i.e. re-reflection of radio waves away from the radiation source.
        The cockpit, the helmet of the pilot, the air intakes, the blades of the engine compressor, the pylons of the external arms suspension - are corner reflectors for radio waves in essence.
        The air intakes are made S-shaped, the blades are shielded, the weapons are tucked into the inside fuselage compartments, but with a cab and helmet it is more difficult.
        A radio-reflective coating is applied to the cockpit lantern, but not very restricting visibility for the pilot. Thus, the EPR value of the entire aircraft is very significantly reduced.
        Well, briefly - something like that hi
        1. -6
          15 January 2019 14: 40
          They said nonsense :: the area of ​​the lantern is zero point-one hell with respect to the area of ​​the reflective surfaces of the aircraft, especially the surfaces that form the signal on the radar monitor.
          Moreover, the area of ​​the lantern are reflectors to the sides that are not visible to the radar (i.e., they are not reflective to the receiving antenna of the radar).
          So your arguments are untenable.
          1. +3
            15 January 2019 20: 34
            Luneberg's lens is even smaller than the cockpit, and reflection gives the most aircraft.
            1. -4
              16 January 2019 09: 10
              No need to compare God's gift with fried eggs, and a machine with a slingshot ...
              1. +1
                16 January 2019 17: 58
                lantern areas are reflectors to the sides,

                Do not write nonsense. The lamp is RADIO-TRANSPARENT, respectively, does not reflect anything. The elements of the cabin are reflected behind the lamp and there are a LOT of corner reflectors, which do not have to be GEOMETRICALLY large at all, in order to block all the reflection from total the fuselage. The task was to make the radio an opaque scattering coating, and even optically transparent, and even on plastic - they decided and wonderful.
                1. 0
                  16 January 2019 21: 56
                  You would be consistent so as not to seem ridiculous :: in the second sentence, your flashlight is RADIO-TRANSPARENT.
                  In the fourth sentence, you set the task to ensure its radio opacity. First, you’ll figure it out in your basket than expose other dbks — drink some pills that accelerate cerebral blood flow ... feel
                  At the same time, we would build our aircraft designers to explain to them that it is impossible to fill the cabin with corner reflectors, they would demote them for illiteracy, or something.
                  1. +1
                    16 January 2019 22: 12
                    Quote: hydrox
                    You would be consistent so as not to seem funny

                    You would listen to learn what smart people say to you ...

                    Quote: hydrox
                    Your flashlight is RADIO

                    Correctly. And behind it - a completely non-transparent cabin, in which is located what is supposed to be there. And it is not stealth in shape. This is what a colleague meant by

                    Quote: bk316
                    A LOT of corner reflectors, which do not have to be GEOMETRICALLY large at all, to cover all the reflection from the entire fuselage

                    Then everything seems to be simple ... for a person with at least minimal engineering training request
          2. +3
            16 January 2019 08: 51
            And nothing that inside the cabin weight corner reflectors?
            1. 0
              16 January 2019 22: 21
              Have you already explained that for the corner reflector to work correctly, it must be a strictly rectangular tetrahedron, in the case of an "indirect" angle, the reflector becomes a diffuser? good
      2. +3
        15 January 2019 15: 12
        Stealth coverage is on the whole glider. The problem remained the cockpit lantern. Now done, well done!
        1. +1
          15 January 2019 18: 48
          Quote: serezhasoldatow
          Stealth coverage is on the whole glider. The problem remained the cockpit lantern. Now done, well done!

          Thank. Now everything is clear.
        2. 0
          16 January 2019 18: 47
          Is it all? And in the military acceptance they said that he was invisible only in front ....
      3. +2
        15 January 2019 16: 14
        the usual coating that reduces radio visibility is applied everywhere has been created for a long time, here we are talking about transparent - which is applied to the cab.
      4. +2
        16 January 2019 08: 50
        In fact, there are areas on the plane that reflect much better than others, and the elimination of such zones significantly reduces the ESR.
      5. +1
        16 January 2019 13: 49
        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
        How does stealth coverage of the cockpit alone make it difficult to locate an aircraft with a locator?

        There may be a different coating on the glider, but transparent is important for the cockpit.
        Quote: hydrox
        They said nonsense :: the area of ​​the lantern is zero point-one hell with respect to the area of ​​the reflective surfaces of the aircraft

        Now locators spot a bird, the area of ​​which is less than the area of ​​the lantern every 10 times, so every percentage is important
    5. 0
      15 January 2019 15: 10
      Good answer. Remember how in the old Soviet film the boy kept asking the same question all the time - what are you doing here? The answer was also not particularly diverse - go boy from here!
    6. +1
      15 January 2019 18: 08
      Avangard will have only 12 launchers, of which 2 launchers will be launched this 2019. 12 objects in the USA and bourgeois Europe can be destroyed fast и guaranteed.

      So far, they are needed so that overseas sworn friends do not have a pipe illusion that they can win a nuclear war against Russia.

      If they make 12 pieces, they will do more if it is appropriate.
      1. +1
        15 January 2019 20: 35
        On the cartoon, each Vanguard was divided into three small avant-garde.
        1. 0
          15 January 2019 20: 41
          On the cartoon, two halves of the fairing are separated from the "Vanguard". Together with "Vanguard" there are three of these parts. But ... cutlets and flies should be counted separately.

          The UR-100 missile will deliver one Vanguard, and, behold, the Sarmat, yes, three!
      2. 0
        16 January 2019 13: 50
        Quote: Horse, lyudovѣd and soulѣlyub
        "Vanguard" will have a total of 12 launchers

        Aangard, Poseidon, some kind of crap, a little bit of everything
    7. +1
      15 January 2019 23: 59
      amers only need to neigh

      "and threw their caps into the air"
      Is there anything weak to write on the content of the article?
  2. +1
    15 January 2019 07: 15
    Well, what passions because of indium oxide and tin? belay
    1. +5
      15 January 2019 07: 29
      Yes, in general, judging by the composition of the coverage, it is necessary to suspect Russia of too close and incredibly secret ties with India.
      And if the second element of the composition were not tin, but California ... or America ... this would have pulled the transfer of the latest American technology
      laughing
      1. -1
        16 January 2019 00: 03
        This is the composition of Amers, our composition is different from Amer. At VO incidentally there was an article about this.
    2. -3
      15 January 2019 07: 37
      It’s because they react so much that modern technologies are based on gold - so look! Serial Su-57 also flaunt with a gold-plated lantern! laughing
    3. 0
      15 January 2019 20: 36
      This is just a reason to troll.
  3. +10
    15 January 2019 07: 22
    It is strange that someone else is responding to National interest.
    1. 0
      15 January 2019 13: 12
      We, incl. the "mainstream" media like to quote him when necessary ...
      1. +1
        15 January 2019 14: 07
        Just quoting NI is free.
        1. +1
          16 January 2019 08: 34
          Where did you get this from? It seems to me to quote, especially with reference, can almost anything? There is pluralism of opinions and just from there they choose what the media dependent on the authorities need, and they give us brains.
          1. 0
            16 January 2019 14: 29
            Quote: Major Pronin
            It seems to me to quote, especially with reference, can almost anything?

            Alas, it only seems to you. The press is generally very expensive.
  4. +4
    15 January 2019 07: 27
    Let them laugh. As for me, the fact that new technologies are appearing in our country is already an indicator. Too little, in recent times, has been pleasing in the field of our high-tech equipment. Miss news about hypersound, otherwise ... quiet and smooth. Therefore, well done, keep it up!
  5. +2
    15 January 2019 07: 28
    Have a good laugh? Ironically ridiculed? Is that all? Not stated, warned and expressed concern? That's okay.
  6. +2
    15 January 2019 07: 28
    It is clear that the American publication will not show enthusiasm (surprise), but rather try to reduce this event to 0, while not forgetting to praise your loved ones. Everything is natural, all the more so with such relationships.
  7. +1
    15 January 2019 07: 29
    They would laugh at the combat readiness of their F22, which were in the hangar during a hurricane. fool fool
    1. 0
      17 January 2019 01: 48
      Why laugh? They only have F-22s for more than 12.
  8. +2
    15 January 2019 07: 30
    I'll tell you a secret, there is a thinnest layer of gold. And oxides of India-tin - there are "antireflection" coatings. And the lanterns of the planes are made of plastic. They were made of plexiglass, then polycarbonate ... Glass ones are very heavy. wassat
  9. -1
    15 January 2019 07: 40
    Fsham only has to puff and smile crookedly.
  10. 0
    15 January 2019 07: 41
    Will these dogs be barked ... if they still have nuclear facilities on floppy disks ...
  11. 0
    15 January 2019 07: 42
    We are waiting for comments from the Bulletin of Mordovia laughing
  12. -3
    15 January 2019 07: 57
    Is the competition between Soyuzmultfilm and Walt Disney going on?
  13. 0
    15 January 2019 07: 59
    And why should they dissuade them from this? Let them continue to think so.
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  15. +1
    15 January 2019 08: 34
    I personally like the colors of our videoconferencing ..
  16. -1
    15 January 2019 08: 57
    Quote: PSih2097
    Quote: hydrox
    Governors in an embrace with Satan himself

    it’s one and the same rocket - R-36m, it’s SS-18 Satan ...

    But no. R-36M is SS-18, and Satan is R-36M2. It is so named because of the black coating, which is a protection against laser-chasing of American SOI ..
    1. 0
      17 January 2019 01: 53
      Oh yeah
      R-36M (GRAU index - 15P014, under the START treaty - RS-20A, according to NATO classification - SS-18 Mod.1,2,3 Satan, translated - Satan) - the third-generation Soviet strategic missile system, with a heavy two-stage liquid 15A14 ampulized intercontinental ballistic missile for deployment in the 15P714 silo launcher with increased security of the OS type.

      https://missilethreat.csis.org/missile/ss-18/
  17. -5
    15 January 2019 09: 11
    what is the use of stealth coverage for cabs if the entire stealth coating plane does not have
    1. +2
      15 January 2019 09: 25
      It’s at least strange to think about the characteristics of the Russian stealth coverage based on the information presented in the general access mode.
      1. -3
        15 January 2019 09: 56
        They argue about the stealth-coating of the flashlight, not a single Su-57 prototype has a stealth-coating of the fuselage, not to mention the Su-35, 30. There was information that they were not going to
        1. -1
          15 January 2019 10: 23
          In any case, such a lamp reduces the visibility of the aircraft.
          Yes, and the stealth coating that Americans have is a very controversial element. Very expensive and very unreliable, although of course it works to some extent.
          On the Su-57 - will probably still appear.
          And on the Su-35 and Su-30, the stealth coating is like a dead poultice with this form of the fuselage.
          1. -1
            15 January 2019 11: 00
            "Very expensive and very unreliable," ////
            -----
            It was unreliable. But the Americans have changed for several generations
            stealth coatings. What is on the F-35 now works reliably in a wide variety of
            conditions and durable. And the application process is completely robotic.
            Expensive, yes. But absorbing radio waves is a more radical way than
            reflect not towards the irradiating radar.
            1. -1
              15 January 2019 12: 50
              Well, here is another expert, where did you read about the F-35 coverage? Do you use advertising information from American manufacturers? Absorb radio waves, sorry in what range? Where is the F-35 coated reflective surface data? Who told you that F-35 coverage works in a variety of conditions and reliably? But do not need to restore it before each departure?
              1. -2
                15 January 2019 13: 09
                Now there is no need for advertising TTX manufacturers.
                F-35 is already a combat warring aircraft. His stealth is tested on exercises
                against real air defense radars and against real fighter radars. In all conceivable angles and at all conceivable distances. And in a dozen countries,
                not just in Israel.
                F-35 maintenance requires more technicians, but they work
                in parallel and the result is fast.
                1. 0
                  16 January 2019 13: 53
                  And what are the results on the effectiveness of the coating of the "warring" F-35? What is its effective reflective surface in the "m", "dm" and "cm" wavelength ranges, at different angles? History is silent? Is it because the whole theory and technology of "stealth" turned out to be ineffective? The costs do not correspond to the result obtained, with a noticeable decrease in the combat properties of aircraft manufactured using this technology? Of course, it is scary to admit this, because the hegemon literally forcibly forces friends to buy these planes, only Israel gets them for free, and therefore "cool, invisible", which for some reason are found and accompanied by the Russian aerospace defense radar in Syria at a very acceptable range.
                  1. 0
                    16 January 2019 18: 58
                    While it’s unrealistic to make an invisible plane,
                    BUT you can reduce the likelihood of detection и reduce the likelihood of capture homing heads.
                    Or do you think this is not necessary?
          2. -2
            15 January 2019 11: 15
            And on the Su-35 and Su-30, the stealth coating is like a dead poultice with this form of the fuselage.
            and I mean the same thing, in the article they emphasize on the inconspicuousness of a lantern with this coating, including on a su-35,30, and what for it is necessary if the plane itself glows like a tree
            1. -1
              15 January 2019 11: 46
              Coverage is likely for the Su-57, however, in order for it to pay off in production, good volumes are needed, therefore they put on everything that is being produced at the moment. For the same purpose, the Americans put it on the same F-16, to give real development to the industry.
            2. 0
              16 January 2019 00: 15
              they rest on the inconspicuousness of the lantern with this coating, including on the su-35,30, and what for it is necessary

              Reducing the EPR of the aircraft by 2 times increases the distance of its detection by about 4 times (and the capture of homing missiles even more)
              Have you ever wondered how the MIG-35 EPR was reduced to 1,5 m, which is about 4 times less than the MIG-29 - is it the same glider?
              Or, in your opinion, why increase the survival rate of a combat aircraft, even if it is knocked down by the most ancient missiles, it is already not the most modern.
              1. -1
                16 January 2019 12: 38
                you do not understand again
                the Su-35, Su-30 glider of the construction of the last century, it has an EPR of about 10 square meters. m., reducing the visibility of the flashlight will reduce the EPR by a tiny amount, it makes no sense since the main contribution to the EPR here is the old fuselage, here the decrease in the visibility of the flashlight is that of a dead poultice
                what about the MIG-35 1,5m EPR, do you really believe that? this is very unlikely, for this there should be a radically different glider, but here a small upgrade
                1. 0
                  16 January 2019 12: 42
                  Can you read?
                  Read my comment again (about the MIG-35 and MIG-29).
                  So who didn’t understand whom?
                  Or study the material yourself.
                  1. 0
                    16 January 2019 12: 42
                    but what does it have to blink if the article is about the drying lights?
                    there was an EPR in the su-30 12kv.m. with the new super-duper flashlight will become 11,5 sq.m., this is a breakthrough
                    1. 0
                      16 January 2019 12: 46
                      But let the drying down?
                      1. 0
                        16 January 2019 12: 47
                        reduction of EPR by 1-2% in this case does not change anything, too large EPR glider
                        I would understand if we were talking about reducing the visibility of the Su-57, there is no information about the stealth coverage of the fuselage, but without it the glider will again have too much EPR so that the flashlight can change something
                      2. 0
                        16 January 2019 12: 52
                        Rested?
                        The coating is applied not only to the flashlight. Result.
                        MIG-35 - 1,5 m2
                        MIG-29 - more than 5 m2.
                        HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN?
                      3. -1
                        16 January 2019 12: 55
                        who rested on what?
                        Mig-35 doesn’t have any 1,5 m2, obviously this is an advertising figure
                        and even the su-57 does not have stealth coverage, not to mention the 4th generation, there it is simply pointless
                        in the article they emphasize a decrease in the visibility of dryers of 4 generations, but there is practically no decrease, since a glider makes 99% of the contribution to the EPR, there will be a flashlight at least 100% radar absorbing that does not change anything
  18. -3
    15 January 2019 09: 45
    Ha. An expert agnonym spilled water on anonymous NI Pushkov.
    pure noodles.
    But if you thought of a cover just now, then all the same, it’s not quite ....
  19. -1
    15 January 2019 10: 02
    Pundos disgraced with their Fu-35, and now they will be worn out
  20. +1
    15 January 2019 10: 17
    in the USA, this kind of technology has been used since the 80s ...

    Everything is relative...
    In the late 60s, Americans flew to the moon like a taxi, but in 2018 they can not deliver the crew to the ISS.
  21. -1
    15 January 2019 10: 33
    One of the main export products of the USSR was just technology. The Union received more from the sale of patents than from the sale of weapons and slightly less than from oil and gas.
  22. -5
    15 January 2019 10: 36
    Another way to improve the stealth of the cab is to reduce its size. Actually, the 57th cabin is wider than the Su-27 cabin due to the cumbersome equipment installed (unfortunately, the manufacturing process for domestic printed circuit boards is far from even consumer electronics in highly developed countries).
    1. 0
      16 January 2019 01: 04
      But what, military equipment still works at 5 volts? But what, the tolerances of military electronics do not correspond to military standards, but to the production of disposable cell phones?
      Do not shout, Milsdar, nonsense, she is already uneasy! wassat fool
    2. 0
      16 January 2019 18: 12
      Do you really think this is the size of the printed circuit boards?
      Nda ..... How everything is started.
  23. -1
    15 January 2019 10: 47
    The one who survived laughs well, and actually, who is interested in the opinion of the enemy sofa analytes?
  24. 0
    15 January 2019 10: 59
    The one who laughs last laughs well ...
    1. 0
      16 January 2019 01: 06
      Quote: Alexey-74
      The one who laughs last laughs well ...

      I like the option more: He laughs best who laughs without consequences! laughing
  25. -3
    15 January 2019 11: 01
    the Americans’s brain is rapidly degrading, so they are ironic.
  26. -4
    15 January 2019 12: 15
    Why, then, in the sight of the Russian Raptor fighter, and not vice versa?
  27. -4
    15 January 2019 12: 43
    Listen they are funny people. And how Vanguard or Dagger or Sarmat will fly to visit them. They think that at once two valves will open and go out of them.
  28. -1
    15 January 2019 17: 20
    Americans learned about smartphones only from S. Jobs, we have nokia in Russia and other PDAs already in full circulation.
  29. -4
    15 January 2019 19: 02
    There are technologies 100 times more efficient than those used by Rostec. In free access!!!!
    The implementation of the invention for which patent No. 149598 was issued, “A device for controlling the flow around an aircraft” and modifications of the device based on a patent, allows:
    - create an additional lift force on the wing in two or three times;
    - to reduce to almost zero aerodynamic resistance at any hypersonic speeds;
    - to be an invisible aircraft for all types of anti-aircraft missile defense and anti-aircraft defense systems;
    - be protected from lasers, beam weapons, EW systems;
    1. 0
      16 January 2019 01: 17
      It seems back in the 19th century (if not in the 18th), the French Academy of Sciences decided not to consider projects of perpetual motion machines. belay wassat
      The set of properties you listed within the framework of one invention is so diverse that it resembles feverish delirium. stop At a minimum, a reduction in aerodynamic drag and an increase in wing lift are mutually exclusive paragraphs negative The concept of "any hypersonic speeds" generally raises questions about the meaning of the statement. Any - how much? By the way, the speed of light exceeds the speed of sound, is this also from the category "any"? request Taking into account that there are simply no real laser warfare (real, not paper model burning tests), as well as beam weapons, just as there are no Gauss with various blasters and lightsabers, electronic warfare systems are very diverse in terms of operation , then I would like to send the author of the epoch-making invention to the regional psychiatric dispensary ... Maybe he has a constant radio connection with Saturn? wassat
    2. -1
      16 January 2019 06: 11
      And why didn’t they notice and did not slam
    3. +1
      16 January 2019 18: 29
      You know, liars here do not like to go like from here:
      not a word in the patent about
      be invisible to the aircraft for all types of radar missile defense and air defense;
      - be protected from lasers, beam weapons, EW systems;
  30. -2
    15 January 2019 19: 23
    duck and the Americans all these Stealth technologies, inherited from the USSR, which they did not begin to replace because of the meaninglessness ...
  31. -1
    15 January 2019 21: 04
    The F-22 has been in service for twenty years. And already took part in hostilities. And our long-awaited SU-57 is already eight years old, and everything is a "gray prototype". So stop throwing hats and rant about "having no analogues in the world." Well kindergarten!
    1. -1
      16 January 2019 01: 19
      Moreover, the F-22 is discontinued without the possibility of recovery recourse
  32. -2
    15 January 2019 22: 27
    This is not the last disinformation of the Americans. There will be many more similar des. And what else remains for them? Profuka rearmament of Russia with the latest weapons. So Trump, darling, now catch our calibers, Poseidons, vanguards, petrels and Sarmatians, if there is anything. By the way, the avant-gardes, which fly at a speed of 27 Machs, you, my friend Trump, will not catch - this is not cartoons for you anymore, because they will be put into service this year. But it would be nice to surround the Americans with Poseidons along the perimeter of the borders - they are land-based missile defense systems along the borders, and we are ocean-going along the bottom along their borders, well, in short, our answer to their garbage. It would be a surprise, that Donald ours would have laughed, Trump and those of our incredulous comrades, who, I remember, laughed at our cartoons at the beginning of the 18th year.
  33. +1
    16 January 2019 00: 26
    A lot of commentators, and UNDERSTAND, of them that 3-4 people read.
  34. -1
    16 January 2019 00: 55
    Quote: shark
    So many hats flew. Everything, the enemy is defeated. And no one considered the probability that this irony is true? There is a backlog and it is huge, no one is considering a budget for a fairy tale about super stealth coverage? I am not saying that this is so. But throwing hats, the right word, is already tired.


    Wonderful and mighty miracle rocket sowing. Overseas adversaries tremble her in the cartoon upon seeing.
  35. -1
    16 January 2019 01: 58
    only theirs f-16 on the radar glows like a Christmas tree, and they don’t even see the 35th drying
  36. +1
    16 January 2019 02: 48
    Is there much honor for NI?
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  37. -1
    16 January 2019 05: 01
    As stated in one old movie: the Americans will be destroyed by their own technology.
  38. 0
    16 January 2019 10: 51
    The American media ridiculed the statements of Russian aircraft manufacturers

    "The wind blows - the dog barks."
  39. -1
    16 January 2019 11: 44
    Today I see many drawbacks to patriotic comments - how alarmed the American lackeys, the representatives of the "fifth column" inside Russia! They do not like the truth, the lie is their weapon! Let's keep in mind.
    1. +1
      16 January 2019 12: 27
      A patriot is one who achieves real and not fictional achievements in the defense industry.
      And you are going to defeat the Americans with stupidity and rudeness, but they are also strong in this.
      1. 0
        16 January 2019 12: 58
        And what, "Vanguards", "Peresvets", "Poseidons", Petrel "," Sarmatians "," Calibers "and the successes of the Russian armed forces in Syria are stupidity and rudeness ?! If you are so smart and polite, then have the courage recognize this reality, and not blah blah blah! If you are a Russian, then why do you defend them and do not see the obvious strength and power of Russian weapons, and obvious successes in the development of the latest types of Russian hypersonic, in particular, weapons ?!
        1. 0
          16 January 2019 13: 05
          Stupidity and rudeness to call opponents:
          American lackeys, representatives of the "fifth column"
          1. -2
            16 January 2019 18: 06
            You need to argue your position with facts. If the obvious facts are denied and everything domestic is hated and there is admiration for the Americans and their kingdom of lies and fake values, when the posture, not the position, is based on the principle of "Highly likely" - then these are not opponents, this is disrespect for a reasoned position ... This is a very subtle playing up to the false Western media, to-rye have already shown themselves to the fullest both in the story with the Boeing shot down over Donbass, and in the Skripals case, and in the story with the famous test tube with washing powder, and in many other ways, which does not honor the deceit, anti-Russian, Western community. Be careful in your comments so as not to lose yourself in these torrents of lies. By the way, you have not recognized the reality of our latest weapons and the success of our armed forces in Syria. It doesn't do you credit. Continue to praise America's flying scares. I am amazed at your disrespect for the commentators at 00:26. Didn't you notice this? So leave your claims to yourself.
            1. +1
              16 January 2019 19: 05
              There is a lot of demagoguery, rudeness, too, but what does the "stealth cover of the cabin" have to do with it?
          2. -1
            16 January 2019 18: 31
            nonsense and rudeness

            Well, it’s rude and silly, for some reason truthfully and honestly.
            1. 0
              16 January 2019 20: 01
              And everything is clever with you, but about anything, they say, will pass for clever? No, they didn't. Only blah blah blah. Read about stealth coating in this article, as well as in many others, if you type in Yandex "unique stealth coating of the Su-57 cockpit". I just do not understand, such a clever one: what does your rudeness in the commentary 00:26 and "stealth-coating of the cockpit of the Su-57" have to do with it? I wonder what you understood from the article on stealth coating? You would share with me, such a stupid electronic engineer of a defense enterprise, one of the developers of the electronic circuit of the device that was on the "Buran" during its flight on November 15, 1988.
              1. -1
                16 January 2019 23: 11
                In vain nervous dear. Komenty is written by sofa experts judging the technique by publishing on the internet. It’s hard for people to see that in Yandex you will not find any secret, much less top-secret, etc. information about existing developments and their implementation. For example - in 97g. when he served urgently, the rocket engine stood at the stand, as the designers said, it works on methane. In 18g. the media announced the presence of such an engine in Russia.
              2. 0
                17 January 2019 12: 14
                Sorry of course I'm interfering.
                I meant that it’s foolish to put the discussion of a technical article on the political plane,
                and the political debate about labeling in a rather boorish style.
                I perfectly understand that 99% of commentators do not understand anything in the topic of the article, and therefore they behave this way. But the smart one would just keep silent and not write something that was not relevant, as you did, writing about the successes of our army, of course writing truthfully and honestly.
                Therefore, I wrote
                Well, it’s rude and silly, for some reason truthfully and honestly.


                Regarding the article, I chewed everything for hydrox, but he didn’t seem to understand.
                However, no one answered Ugene's comment.
                Since you have studied the Internet, answer, how can I use this coverage to reduce the radio visibility on airplanes like Su-30, on which the cabin contribution to the EPF is percentage?
  40. 0
    16 January 2019 12: 09
    The job is to make fun of various technologies. So they do both here and with them))), but this is done for people far from military engineering, who are 90% in any country. You should pay attention to the fact that basically "laughs shoot" at the side of qualitatively new technologies (breakthrough). So each such "injection" gives a reason to say that we are all right and we are moving in the right direction.
    1. -1
      16 January 2019 12: 28
      That's what I meant. Although, probably, he was somewhat emotional and categorical in his assessments .. Therefore, I will not argue about the "fifth column", please consider this as an assumption. But when minuses are placed on the well-known and obvious facts about the F-22 and our Vanguards, and our other new weapons, which are already on alert, and some commentators continue to assert that these are cartoons, then naturally there is there are many questions for these commentators, who got stuck at the beginning of 2018 and do not see reality. The question arises: guys, did you just decide to check in? Whose mill are you pouring water into? Any desire to deal with this audience at all disappears. I am disappointed.