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Experts in China said that the T-90C is inferior to the Chinese tanks VT4 and VT5

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Chinese military experts decided to speak out about a contract between Russia and Vietnam, involving the supply of Russian to the Vietnamese armed forces tanks T-90S.


Experts in China said that the T-90C is inferior to the Chinese tanks VT4 and VT5


In total, the contract involves the delivery of 64 combat vehicles of this type to Hanoi. In Chinese media, it is stated that the first batch (including 32 units) has already been delivered to Vietnam from the Russian Federation. It is noted that for the transportation of armored vehicles from the port were used wheeled tractors KZKT-7428.

In the Chinese media, military experts have stated that with the acquisition of Russian T-90, the Vietnamese army will receive additional armored equipment, but "this will not give an advantage over the latest Chinese tanks." In particular, it is stated that the T-90С acquired in Russia for the Vietnamese troops "are in many ways inferior" to the Chinese tank Type 15. This is a tank that was previously demonstrated at military-technical exhibitions under the export nomenclature VT5. Also known as ZTQ-15.

From the statements of the Chinese military expert in the Chinese media:
Although T-90S theoretically reaches the level of modern main battle tanks and may allow Vietnam to make arrogant statements about the rearmament of armored forces, in fact T-90C will not play an important role for Vietnam. Tanks of different versions of the T-90 are inferior to the Chinese Type 15 when used in highlands. The angle of vertical deflection of the Type 15 tank gun is greater than that of the T-90, and this is an important component of success in a battle in the mountains.


The following are judgments about comparing the T-90 and VT4 (MBT-3000) tanks. VT4 - is the Chinese main battle tank, which is in service not only the PLA, but also the Thai army. VT4 has an 125-mm gun, capable of firing not only projectiles, but also guided missiles at a distance of up to 5 km.

From the statement of the Chinese military experts:
The VT4 tank, equipped with an HP 1200 engine, has a high maneuverability. The number of advanced technologies applied on it makes it better than the Russian T-90С. The tank is high class! It has a much wider range of combat capabilities than T-90, which Vietnam and India today have.


In general, all these statements boil down to praising Chinese tanks and calling on the countries of Southeast and South Asia (including Bangladesh and Myanmar) to buy armored vehicles made exclusively in China.
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  1. The comment was deleted.
  2. Lamatinets
    Lamatinets 3 January 2019 07: 42
    +52
    Bah, Chinese military exterpises)))) I remember that China last fought against Vietnam in 1979, and notably a ogreb.
    1. Chertt
      Chertt 3 January 2019 08: 03
      +9
      Quote: Lamatinets
      Chinese military expers))))

      Soon it will become a meme.
      1. Andrey K
        Andrey K 3 January 2019 12: 12
        +11
        Quote: Chertt
        ... Soon this will become a meme ...

        Already almost.
        Either their missiles are the most missile, their planes are the most aircraft, let alone the most infantry: the truth was at war for the last time half a century ago, but there are a lot of them laughing
        1. sir_obs
          sir_obs 3 January 2019 12: 22
          +14
          Chinese anti-tank platoon — 800 people with nut klbchami and screwdrivers
          1. Shurik70
            Shurik70 3 January 2019 14: 53
            +4
            Come on you mock.
            Just every sandpiper praises its swamp. Especially when it comes to military contracts. Already recognized "T-90S theoretically reaches the level of modern main battle tanks"amazing
            1. Waldemar
              Waldemar 5 January 2019 00: 22
              +1
              They often began hilo to open riveting tanks on the basis of Soviet tank platforms and screwing up a Western-style tower by stuffing inside the clones of French tank electronics such as thermal imagers of Soviet stabilizers and other things that had been trained from around the world, including with the help of fugitive Soviet scientists. Something tells me that their armor is filthy
        2. Sirocco
          Sirocco 3 January 2019 14: 58
          +4
          Quote: Andrey K
          Already almost.

          What would such a claim, China should have good reasons for this. and evidence, but there is none yet, our T 90 test drives in Syria passed, but the Chinese tanks were there? I didn’t hear what the Chinese armed forces were there, I heard, but there’s no use of technology. So this is another bluff, like their 5th generation plane which is better than ours, moreover, it flies on our engines)))))
        3. NEXUS
          NEXUS 3 January 2019 16: 46
          +7
          Quote: Andrey K
          Either their missiles are the most missile, then the planes are the most aircraft, let alone the most infantry:

          Sorry, but we don’t have such statements? Especially about having no analogs.
          It is clear that these statements are a kind of advertising move and an element of propaganda. As for comparisons of these tanks, our T-90 in real combat operations showed very worthy, which can not be said about the Chinese trash, which regularly breaks down in biathlon.
          1. Oleg14774
            Oleg14774 3 January 2019 17: 39
            0
            Quote: NEXUS
            Quote: Andrey K
            Either their missiles are the most missile, then the planes are the most aircraft, let alone the most infantry:

            Sorry, but we don’t have such statements? Especially about having no analogs.
            It is clear that these statements are a kind of advertising move and an element of propaganda. As for comparisons of these tanks, our T-90 in real combat operations showed very worthy, which can not be said about the Chinese trash, which regularly breaks down in biathlon.

            Weighted comments.
      2. StudentVK
        StudentVK 4 January 2019 18: 13
        0
        Like British scientists)))))))
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 3 January 2019 08: 23
      +14
      Quote: Lamatinets
      China last fought against Vietnam in 1979, and notably the ridge.

      That is why Vietnam would prefer non-Chinese tanks, even if they were a cut above the others.
      And here the situation is generally enchanting, the Norkink export machine is by default worse than those new tanks that are in service with the Chinese army. And to be indignant that the neighbor didn’t buy her, it’s very stupid))))))
      1. 2329 Carpenter
        2329 Carpenter 3 January 2019 09: 36
        +1
        Why is it stupid? All according to the rules of the market and business. Why shouldn’t the competitor be added up again?
        1. Waldemar
          Waldemar 5 January 2019 00: 24
          +1
          They themselves would have invented what their tank is made to start with .....
      2. donavi49
        donavi49 3 January 2019 09: 37
        +9
        Vietnam would not buy Chinese weapons, no matter how good, in the current political situation. He has a choice between the western (and there is now spring with investments and purchases of the same Boeings in large quantities - at a reduced price) and Russian. There are no other options.

        Unless Turkey - which actively breaks into the Asian market. But they do not yet have a normal MBT in the export proposal. Only the Black Tiger (light tank for the jungle - which Indonesia purchases) and a good BMP.
      3. Lamatinets
        Lamatinets 3 January 2019 10: 51
        +3
        Moreover, as I recall from what I read, the Chinese were confronted by not even regular units, but something like militia divisions, which I couldn’t kick the Han Chinese at all.
        1. Waldemar
          Waldemar 5 January 2019 00: 26
          0
          The Vietnamese are tired of different conquerors. Love, go to them of the highest stage, whatever the cut of eyes in these
      4. ALLxANDr
        ALLxANDr 3 January 2019 20: 20
        +1
        Just about)) I also thought about it) It would be very stupid for China, to arm the other side with whom there was a conflict - with the same tanks as ours)))) For any, they would be greatly trimmed, which puts an end to any Patriotic slogans) Moreover, Vietnam would become very dependent on its political adversary, which, whatever one may say, is not acceptable for Vietnam. And since Vietnam was not going to buy from China, why don't we sell a couple dozen tanks to this country? After all, if not us, then either the Europeans will give a fuss, or the Americans will begin to look for common ground .. In any case, Vietnam will not be left without tanks!
      5. StudentVK
        StudentVK 4 January 2019 18: 16
        0
        At the tank biathlon WE repelled them rink ?????? It was THEIR tank brought and tuned by them. So who is “longer” here is clearly not in their favor.
        1. Waldemar
          Waldemar 5 January 2019 00: 27
          +1
          In China, biathlon is hardly shown. The Chinese and Japanese are bigots and racists. And this is such a culture and not ideology
          1. StudentVK
            StudentVK 5 January 2019 00: 49
            0
            According to the "garlic" it is necessary, to extol their own, so the principle is nothing surprising. They decided to take an example from amers and us and to promote their weapons on the world market. Only here is a maaaaaalenky nuance. With amers and their heavy hand on the throat of the Allies, a dash of vassals, it is clear that they will buy everything. But they must understand that the best advertisement for weapons is fighting with him. This is for example like ours.
    3. Stone
      Stone 3 January 2019 10: 14
      -3
      And at the moment, countries that are not robbed of the Han, and it’s notable to count on the fingers of one hand. You can legs).
      1. Lamatinets
        Lamatinets 3 January 2019 10: 52
        +4
        To judge the power and preparedness of the army on Chinese rollers is not foolish. The army does not have any combat experience, from the word in general.
        1. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 4 January 2019 07: 16
          -3
          Quote: Lamatinets
          To judge the power and preparedness of the army on Chinese rollers is not foolish. The army does not have any combat experience, from the word in general.

          Well, like India, it’s not bad from the PLA to rake in due time ...
    4. Free wind
      Free wind 3 January 2019 10: 58
      -14
      Yes, not a rake, the losses were approximately equal. What a man ... says that the Chinese raked, they seized vast spaces, they destroyed dozens of peoples and tribes, from some kind of ... fucking Han, they turned into the most numerous clue of the world. This also awaits us under the leadership of the great and incomparable, God's chosen .......
      1. Lamatinets
        Lamatinets 3 January 2019 12: 25
        +7
        You do not confuse the Chinese with the Manchu dynasty? From 16 AEC, the Chinese or whoever replaces them constantly received from someone Lyuley. Ours ousted them from southern Siberia and the Far East, the impudent and Ueropeys did not consider them people, and fed the opium, dzhapy, also not so Chinese.
        1. Free wind
          Free wind 3 January 2019 15: 31
          +2
          Wow, how many Chinese henchmen.
        2. 933454818
          933454818 4 January 2019 18: 19
          0
          No, well, actually, when they examined the old (ancient) mummies in China, it turned out that Europoids lived there before the Chinese. And then the Proto-Chinese (sort of like from Malaysia) drove the ebropoids from the territory of present-day China and at the same time proto-Japanese ousted the Ainu people from almost all of southern Japan . Where did these Malaysians come from?
          1. Waldemar
            Waldemar 5 January 2019 00: 31
            0
            You're right. China is a land filled with water, they were surrounded by a conditional wall, which in reality is just a line of stones and not something that is shown to tourists. Line forbidding to climb north for it.
      2. 72jora72
        72jora72 4 January 2019 11: 46
        -1
        Captured vast spaces, they destroyed dozens of peoples and tribes
        This is where you read that belay .
    5. Mar.Tirah
      Mar.Tirah 3 January 2019 13: 56
      +4
      Quote: Lamatinets
      notably ogreb.

      In 1982, he met one "Vietnamese" who was there as part of the "peacekeepers" of the Marine Corps, who did not allow the Chinese to wreak havoc. They wore a lot of them, but we also had losses. The second time we had to defend Vietnam, this time already from "allies"!
    6. igorka357
      igorka357 4 January 2019 07: 08
      +3
      China over the past thousand years, generally raked from everyone, and the much-praised Scsun schz ... laughing something didn’t hurt them ..))))
    7. 933454818
      933454818 4 January 2019 18: 14
      0
      In the month of February, it seems. He served in a construction battalion in Priozersk on about. Balkhash. I was already going to the DMB, as it were, and here on you-war. Gossip immediately spread that the demobilization was slowed down, in general, treason. Although why the heck to slow down the construction battalion demobilization? For a week there were sudden outages of the street lighting of the unit. I was a senior electrician and when The messenger and conveyed the order, it was necessary to quickly jump into boots and jump to make a trip. But then in the afternoon it was possible to "grab" for an hour or two, as if for night work ...
  3. jonht
    jonht 3 January 2019 07: 43
    +24
    The Chinese, they are, they can’t win the biathlon from the old t-72s, but they are already shouting that their tanks are better.
    1. Chertt
      Chertt 3 January 2019 08: 08
      +11
      Always believed that yellow rabbits are our main geopolitical enemies. The pampered Anglo-Saxons have already baked. And these Chinese photocopiers who lose 20-30 million in the war will not even be noticed.
      1. lwxx
        lwxx 3 January 2019 09: 45
        +7
        No matter what they say, the Chinese are working silently. The Chinese unmanned vehicle Chang'e-4 has sat on the far side of the moon. And we, and we, and we ......
        1. Chertt
          Chertt 3 January 2019 11: 31
          +9
          The Chinese are a young nation, a bubble (I’m a historian, I don’t need to talk about ten thousand years)))). As they swell, they will burst
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 4 January 2019 01: 00
            0
            Quote: Chertt
            The Chinese are a young nation, a bubble (I’m a historian, I don’t need to talk about ten thousand years)))). As they swell, they will burst

            The Chinese nation is no younger than the Slavic one, and maybe it will be more ancient. At the same time, she did not disappear, like many before her. About bubbles is generally where?
            And this despite the fact that the Chinese, with the exception of the conflict on Damansky, NEVER fought with us. So where do half of those who comment have such hostility towards the Chinese? Let me remind you that many of the defense industries in our 90's, namely the Chinese with their orders, kept afloat.
            1. Lara Croft
              Lara Croft 4 January 2019 07: 36
              0
              Quote: NEXUS
              the Chinese, except for the conflict on Damansky, NEVER fought with us.

              Not at all. If the Chinese say that the Russians took away the Far East, Siberia, Transbaikalia, then they still fought, or do you think they fled from these open spaces in horror from Yermak ...., abandoning their homes and all the hard work?
              And the Quantum Army was not only made up of the Japanese. And what about Chinese actions on the CER in the 20s?
              Let me remind you that many of our defense industries in the 90s, namely the Chinese with their orders, kept afloat.

              Yes, they had no choice after the imposition of Western sanctions on China in the 89th ....
      2. Waldemar
        Waldemar 5 January 2019 00: 33
        0
        Therefore, in such a hypothetical war they must lose 99% of manpower with a guarantee
    2. Serg koma
      Serg koma 3 January 2019 08: 09
      +11
      Quote: jonht
      but already screaming that their tanks are better.

      A man comes to the secret pathologist and says:
      - Doctor! I can’t afford my wife more than eight times a night!
      - ??? And who told you you need more?
      “Yes, the neighbor says that he can do fifteen a night!”
      - Well, and you speak!
      To say it does not mean urine wassat
      1. Snail N9
        Snail N9 3 January 2019 10: 14
        +1
        Wrote-tapping on a clave made in China .... sending to the Internet through the north, made in China ... no-e-China-sucks, he can not and can not do anything .... lol
        1. Mih1974
          Mih1974 3 January 2019 11: 34
          +10
          But, let's be honest - plastic, and maybe it was "invented" and cast in China and microcircuits were "printed" there, but HOW they should look and work, this is NOT China at all, but just the USA. tongue On this, in fact, right now, Chinese companies are taking Faberge for forbidding Americans to put their chips belay ... And "suddenly" many realized that the Kitaky dragon had very "clay feet", it turned out that many of the basic processes the Chinese did not copy, and are heavily dependent on imports
          1. Snail N9
            Snail N9 3 January 2019 11: 40
            -4
            Yes, that's right, everyone knows, they make one "plastic" .... there, already, their "plastic" has landed on the opposite side of the moon .... wink
            1. Mih1974
              Mih1974 3 January 2019 11: 53
              +16
              But let's be serious, WHAT invented such a breakthrough China over the last 30-40 years? Well, this is something that would "take your breath away", well, something like Lasers, additive technology, medicine that overcomes a terrible and pondemic disease, maybe they came up with how to get a yield 1-4 times more on the same 10 hectare of land (no, I'm not talking about their methods of making vegetables from nitrates and phosphates). China has only one undeniable accomplishment - Managing China is good for China. Yes, here they have reached the incredible and have not stopped yet, but everything else, sorry, but when the Soviet moon rovers were already there and even sat on Venus and sent data, the Americans flew and fired robots to Mars from their heels. Where is the achievement, then that they were allowed to pull information, process it into modern microcircuits and not ruin the device in flight. Yes, for them this is the highest achievement and "mastering competencies", but for the World it is nothing, a repetition of what has been passed. Yes, they have a huge economy, yes, they used more cement in 10-20 years than the USA in 100 years, but forgive this "repetition" again, conditionally tomorrow in the USA and Russia they stop funding science or between us the war and scientists (conditionally) died - and WHAT? China will not come to replace it, believe me - they will be klepat the same until everyone is sick from repetition.
        2. Lamatinets
          Lamatinets 3 January 2019 12: 26
          +2
          They are hadi, hardworking and persistent.
        3. Serg koma
          Serg koma 3 January 2019 15: 19
          +2
          Quote: Snail N9
          Wrote-tapping on a clave made in China ....

          1. I didn’t write with hieroglyphs (maybe you didn’t understand something)
          2. Not about phone / server speech
  4. parusnik
    parusnik 3 January 2019 07: 43
    +7
    In general, all these statements boil down to praising Chinese tanks and calling on the countries of Southeast and South Asia (including Bangladesh and Myanmar) to buy armored vehicles made exclusively in China.
    ... The market ... It is the market ...
    1. Tatar 174
      Tatar 174 3 January 2019 07: 47
      +6
      Quote: parusnik
      ... The market ... It is the market ...

      ... And there’s a battle for this market ...
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 3 January 2019 07: 59
        +8
        Do not be fooled - do not sell! bully
      2. hydrox
        hydrox 3 January 2019 08: 13
        +13
        Quote: Tatar 174
        ... And there’s a battle for this market ..

        And in this battle it’s not enough to bounce above everyone and shout louder than everyone: in this market you need to offer goods with light rust, burnt paint, dust from all over the world on trucks, dents from ricochets, patches with field seams and a noticeable acidity of burnt gunpowder .. .
    2. Alex20042004
      Alex20042004 3 January 2019 08: 05
      +1
      Each sandpiper praises its Swamp!
  5. hydrox
    hydrox 3 January 2019 07: 46
    +24
    Chinese experts cannot be denied only one thing - arrogance.
    Otherwise, it cannot be explained in any way that the foundations on which the technique and the system of criteria are compared, accepted for comparison, can in no way be applied to the T-90s, which have already been baptized many times in different corners of the Earth and Chinese SUVs with armor from St3, which have never sniffed anything more military than Tianan Men asphalt.
    1. GKS 2111
      GKS 2111 3 January 2019 07: 49
      +4
      They said beautifully! Well, the market is so-you won’t praise yourself if, and further, in the text, everyone knows! lol
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 3 January 2019 09: 44
      +6
      Well, in general this is not a very objective indicator today.

      Can Leo2 be considered a bad tank? But in Syria there are photos of how they were torn to pieces, worse than the T-64. Or is combat use to blame?

      Or can Leclerc be considered the best tank of our time - after all, for the 4 of the year it has been fighting in Yemen without a single loss? Although Abrashki, M60, T-80 are torn there regularly. Or, again, is this a merit of combat use?
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 3 January 2019 10: 54
        +1
        "Can Leo2 be considered a bad tank? But there are photos in Syria" ////
        ----
        Leo failed to lay part of the ammunition in the front of the tower. And the tower was pierced by ATGMs from side to front. There the armor turned out to be rather weak. And there was a detonation.
      2. strannik1985
        strannik1985 4 January 2019 06: 20
        +1
        Of course, in fact, the 2A4 modification was outdated even before its release, with the appearance of the Blazer NKDZ (M48, M60) from Israel, and the Kontakt '(T-72AV, T-72B) from the USSR.
  6. A.
    A. 3 January 2019 07: 46
    +4
    With Krivorukov, criticism is becoming increasingly aggressive.
    1. Non liberoid Russian
      Non liberoid Russian 3 January 2019 07: 52
      +4
      copied, as usual, even criticism
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  8. Graz
    Graz 3 January 2019 08: 02
    +8
    well, for the sake of justice, training of the crew will most likely decide if a clash of the same Chinese and Vietnamese happens on our t-90s
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 3 January 2019 08: 25
      +4
      These scabby loudspeakers have already been fucked up many times at Shoigov biathlon, never taking 1st place, although they were allowed to compete on OWN, "the world's best technology". So let them be happy, BUT ... against the background of our negative comments.
    2. PSih2097
      PSih2097 3 January 2019 08: 30
      +5
      Quote: Graz
      well, for the sake of justice, training of the crew will most likely decide if a clash of the same Chinese and Vietnamese happens on our t-90s

      It's all about the training and professionalism of the crew. Land salabons in the newest tank and a more experienced crew will make them easily even on an older or weaker tank. (c) IS-3. Eisenberg Alexander.
  9. Altona
    Altona 3 January 2019 08: 10
    +10
    Unfair competition, you can't name it anymore. The skating rink of the chassis of a Chinese tank, torn out at the tank biathlon, speaks for itself about the quality of Chinese tanks. Such a moment is more eloquent than any "opinions".
  10. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 3 January 2019 08: 11
    +4
    Communication and optics are probably better for new Chinese tanks. But in the mountains, the main thing is not to break.
    1. Altona
      Altona 3 January 2019 10: 22
      +2
      Quote: Zaurbek
      But in the mountains, the main thing is not to break.

      ---------------------
      As one Chinese man told me at the exhibition, not all Chinese enterprises bother with reliability standards and the adoption of such standards for an enterprise is almost voluntary. That is, no one drives the engine or transmission to develop a long continuous motor resource if it is not required. I'm talking about civilian products. But if they have such a state of affairs in the military, then we are dealing with operating "models" of weapons.
      1. Free wind
        Free wind 3 January 2019 11: 07
        -5
        The yellow-faced tanks have Maybachs, MTVs according to the present, 1500 mares, a motor resource of 1000 hours of guarantee, for violating the execution, we have 150 hours of guarantee, for violating ... well, that’s all right.
        1. Jackking
          Jackking 3 January 2019 12: 20
          +7
          And for p ... pain is there still no execution? Or p .. to be a child and "blowing the wind" is a state of mind ??? :)))
        2. Altona
          Altona 3 January 2019 13: 14
          0
          Quote: Free Wind
          The yellow-mouthed tanks have Maybachs, MTVs according to the present, 1500 mares, a motor resource of 1000 hours of guarantee, for violation of execution, we have 150 hours of guarantee

          -----------------------
          If there is an opportunity to talk with the Chinese on this topic, I will definitely ask how things really are.
  11. ANCIENT
    ANCIENT 3 January 2019 08: 18
    +2
    As they say, you will not praise yourself, no one else will praise. The Chinese have an excessively high opinion of their copies, which lack the main criterion - quality. Their weapons are almost all copies of very mediocre quality, and wishful thinking is at least stupid.
  12. Ham
    Ham 3 January 2019 08: 18
    +2
    there are about a million such "experts" here
  13. Lamatinets
    Lamatinets 3 January 2019 08: 24
    +1
    According to rumors, they, the Chinese, in the Lunokhod, the astronaut is sitting on a suicide bomber, since the ACS could not really copy.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 3 January 2019 09: 51
      +6
      Yeah. Then you need to be afraid of the Chinese, because they were able to cram the embryo into the moon rover and make it all work. Here is the natural size of this moon rover.


      There are ACSs like Martian rovers. Draw a route - send instructions = rover executes. Sends new photos - draw a route again and so on. Only if the Americans have to wait a long time, then the Chinese do not, because the distance is shorter, the signal is faster, the chance to lose the mission due to the wrong sequence is much less.
      1. Lamatinets
        Lamatinets 3 January 2019 09: 52
        0
        The Chinese generally were always prone to miniaturization))))
        1. donavi49
          donavi49 3 January 2019 09: 58
          +3
          This is a trend. Why make a large landing station - if all the equipment fits into the small one. Now there is generally a promising area of ​​microAMS with specific functions. That is, a small and cheap station, with a set of scientific tools and a repeater - is sent to space by what Falcon 9 (and well, if not by the way) = carries out a specific scientific program and dies. This is considered more interesting than the classic large and expensive missions like Juneau, Cassini, etc. Plus significant minimization of scientific equipment is underway. Well, in general, the industry is developing - almost every rocket simultaneously displays a bunch of Cubes or microsatellites.
          1. Lamatinets
            Lamatinets 3 January 2019 09: 59
            +1
            Surrender !!! Convinced
  14. spektr9
    spektr9 3 January 2019 08: 25
    -2
    Well, according to the LMS, I think the Chinese tanks are really superior to the T-90, in the mountains it’s also possible, each country sharpen its weapons under its terrain
    1. Lamatinets
      Lamatinets 3 January 2019 08: 44
      +5
      Um. There are mountains in China, but in the Himalayas and Tibet, tanks are generally poorly applicable.
    2. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 4 January 2019 09: 09
      0
      The T-90S tank of the 80s-90s and the LMS there is appropriate. You can also compare with the T-72! The Chinese need to be compared with the version of the T-90AM (SM), which are just beginning to enter the Russian Armed Forces.
  15. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 3 January 2019 08: 41
    +2
    They would be silent if they knew that Vietnamese enemies spend money on trash.
    1. Mih1974
      Mih1974 3 January 2019 11: 44
      +3
      They would be silent, but "you have to write, but you can't write the truth" laughing ... Excuse me, but from those commenting I am ONE who was not captivated to remember what kind of crap "pytsy-15" is? Naroooood is a LIGHT tank fool , I repeat Light, he has a barrel of only 105 mm, here more than once holivars arranged "it was necessary to put a log-fool into the Armata 152 mm", and these "yellow-faced brothers" want to do with a pitiful 90 against the T-105. laughing
      Again, uh excuse me WHAT Chinese crap will help in the Vietnamese jungle the ability to "raise the barrel higher than that of the T-90"? I'm not kidding, the whole article praising Chinese tanks against ours is based on the expectation of absolutely unprepared readers. negative Forgive me already spitting "Channel 1" telling us how poorly people live in the West during the Soviet era.
  16. Vdi73
    Vdi73 3 January 2019 08: 41
    +1
    The usual competition in the arms market.
  17. K-50
    K-50 3 January 2019 08: 55
    +2
    Experts in China said that the T-90C is inferior to the Chinese tanks VT4 and VT5

    Experts in China are just as cold-hearted as "British scientists". yes laughing
    Only practice is the criterion of Truth !!! That's when the VT-4/5 can withstand the hits of anti-tank missiles, then we can still talk about some EQUALITY, but not superiority !!!
    Test your tanks in battles, then crow! yes fellow
  18. gabonskijfront
    gabonskijfront 3 January 2019 09: 04
    +2
    Thinner gentlemen, it’s Asia here, neither one nor the other is neither friend nor foe. More healthy cynicism and cheap show-offs of Asia are more understandable.
  19. svp67
    svp67 3 January 2019 09: 21
    +2
    Chinese military experts decided to comment on the contract concluded between Russia and Vietnam, involving the supply of Russian tanks T-90C to the Vietnamese armed forces.
    Well, every sandpiper praises its swamp.
    The VT4 tank, equipped with an HP 1200 engine, has a high maneuverability. The number of advanced technologies applied on it makes it better than the Russian T-90С. The tank is high class! It has a much wider range of combat capabilities than T-90, which Vietnam and India today have.
    And this tank breaks with enviable regularity in the tank biathlon. No, Vietnam did the right thing by buying tanks from us, not from China. And by and large, even buying tanks from Ukraine is a better option for Vietnam than Chinese tanks, with all the problems with them.
  20. donavi49
    donavi49 3 January 2019 09: 32
    +3
    Meanwhile, I did. The Change-4 research station sat in the Aitken Basin - in the Won Kaman Crater (main 180km). The first landing on the far side of the moon is China.
    1. John22
      John22 3 January 2019 10: 03
      -1
      And when was the infa about landing? Or are we silent?
      1. Roman Skomorokhov
        Roman Skomorokhov 3 January 2019 10: 23
        +2
        Quote: John22
        And when was the infa about landing? Or are we silent?


        Ours are not silent. In the morning there were messages from all the leading media, including ours.
      2. donavi49
        donavi49 3 January 2019 11: 02
        +2
        https://ria.ru/20190103/1549003427.html
        https://russian.rt.com/science/news/589199-kitaiskii-apparat-luna
    2. Mih1974
      Mih1974 3 January 2019 11: 55
      +1
      What you want to say, but the feeling of who the Chinese bought the Hollywood "decorators". laughing laughing
  21. shinobi
    shinobi 3 January 2019 10: 03
    +2
    It's funny! laughing Well the truth is funny!
    PS: Even the fighters of an "exclusive" nation admit that the T-90 is the best in the world, this is firstly. Secondly, maybe I don’t know something, but what would they fight on tanks in the mountains? This is something new in military affairs.
  22. Hypersound
    Hypersound 3 January 2019 10: 05
    +1
    Good joke. VT5 is ancient antiquity, of course the T90 of the latest modifications is better
    1. Lamatinets
      Lamatinets 3 January 2019 10: 59
      -1
      Yes, I’ve heard that the whale troops in the internal provinces are still armed with spears and bows, and only among the authorities, starting from akvzvoda ak 47 !!! Here it is. and They are the Moon, Mars, these are all the names of the chocolate bars.
    2. Grigory_78
      Grigory_78 3 January 2019 11: 26
      +1
      T-90S is, frankly, not the last modification.
  23. Berkut24
    Berkut24 3 January 2019 12: 01
    +5
    An old song about the main thing. If Vietnam is so bad, why so much screech? The T-90 is a warring tank, it has experience in using, hitting, repair practices, and field operation statistics. So far, Chinese cars have only the experience of advertising companies.
  24. ZVS
    ZVS 3 January 2019 12: 04
    +4
    All these bravura reviews about Chinese tanks losing skating rinks on biathlon tracks are nothing but PR for the purpose of conquering the sales market. China alone is not capable of creating from scratch not a single sample of military equipment.
  25. APASUS
    APASUS 3 January 2019 12: 05
    0
    China is not just copying technology from around the world, but it is copying the technology of market promotion from the Americans!
    They put a fired car into Syria, an advertisement in itself, and a serious argument.
    And so to release a dozen ducks for the media and it went off, an order of magnitude cheaper!
  26. igm001
    igm001 3 January 2019 12: 12
    +5
    Palestinian experts said that Qassam is significantly pissing off both Vanguard and Dagger. Will we discuss?
  27. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 3 January 2019 12: 28
    0
    We need to take the Cornets and check the Chinese tanks for penetration. And put the video on the network ..
  28. Приговор
    Приговор 3 January 2019 12: 42
    +2
    Can you tell me how many wars China won thanks to its technology? What modern conflicts did he participate in?
  29. core
    core 3 January 2019 12: 43
    0
    The quality of the expert is evidenced by the fact that he compares the T-90 MBT with the light tank Type-15.
  30. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 3 January 2019 15: 08
    0
    I wonder how swaggering Chinese experts generally recognized our T-ninety tank.
    Excessive pride obscures their mind. Indian tank crews will quickly explain to them "who is who", if there was a border incident between them.
  31. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 3 January 2019 16: 32
    0
    The VT4 tank, equipped with an HP 1200 engine, has a high maneuverability. The number of advanced technologies applied on it makes it better than the Russian T-90С.
    laughing
    Suppose that the engine produces the same 1200 hp that the T-90 has. And what about our size and weight of the tank?
  32. Awaz
    Awaz 3 January 2019 19: 43
    +1
    I want to tell you an interesting observation. I understand everything, we are used to the fact that the Chinese are not very worried about the topic of quality and mainly focus on cheapness. I agree that their basic science is not sufficiently developed and they have not yet progressed so far in terms of developing something new and interesting, however, I still want to praise the Chinese, they are little by little, yet they are starting to do more and more qualitatively, even small things, unlike domestic manufacturers, trying to save on everything and often producing a complete sucks.
    I what it is for. At work, I constantly get minor injuries on my fingers and I have to wrap it with a band-aid. So, now in pharmacies only the Chinese patch confidently sticks to the body and you are tormented to tear it off as well. Any Russian, just does not hold at all ..
    this is such nonsense ... In addition, I work in a factory where it has recently become fashionable not to study European products, but Chinese. And no matter how they hacked, but in the latest models, there really is something to learn already ...
    1. LeonidL
      LeonidL 3 January 2019 20: 23
      0
      Alas, but yes ...
  33. Dr. Bermental
    Dr. Bermental 3 January 2019 20: 09
    +2
    Well, to be honest, our designers should have a million in each pocket !!! thanks to them we are still alive ..)
  34. LeonidL
    LeonidL 3 January 2019 20: 22
    0
    Experts in Russia said that the T-90S is significantly superior to the Chinese VT4 and VT5 tanks ... Experts are experts and experts ... only often all of their knowledge sources are limited to Wikipedia in their native language.
  35. beeper
    beeper 3 January 2019 20: 24
    0
    Even if everything is as the "Chinese" experts "say" (although I don't really believe them!))), Then the Vietnamese soldiers will be able to use the capabilities of Russian tanks by 110%!
    The Vietnamese, they will be more beaten than the Chinese! These guys, though seemingly feeble, but hardened — real warriors and technical limitations will be overcome by their soldier ingenuity — they well demonstrated this during the American intervention and during the armed conflict with China in 1979!
    The traditions of the Vietnamese army, one with its people, make it very dangerous for the enemies of the DRV, even as powerful as the USA!
  36. bone1
    bone1 3 January 2019 21: 41
    0
    What do they want to get their hands on? -So it seems that China and Vietnam are not friends.
  37. TOR2
    TOR2 3 January 2019 23: 02
    0
    Tanks of various versions of the T-90 are inferior to the Chinese Type 15 when used in mountainous areas. The vertical deflection angle of the Type 15 tank gun is larger than that of the T-90, and this is an important component of success in the battle in the mountains.
    Well, we should thank the Chinese media, now Chrysanthemums will also be purchased for the Vietnamese army.
  38. Adimius38
    Adimius38 4 January 2019 08: 16
    0
    nothing personal is a business, China wants to impose its goods on everyone
  39. Sarcasm
    Sarcasm 4 January 2019 10: 41
    -2
    Many say that it’s the tankers who are inside, but not history shows that the aces become managing ultimatively superior examples of technology Kolobanov, Knispel, Karius, Wittmann is a small example where technology makes people outstanding, and not vice versa.
    1. bone1
      bone1 4 January 2019 20: 29
      -1
      And what did Knyspel, Carius, and Wittmann do what was outstanding?
      1. Sarcasm
        Sarcasm 6 January 2019 10: 59
        0
        Knizpel 168 destroyed tanks, Carius 150, Wittmann 138 thanks to tigers. Enlighten being erudite is not fashionable wink
        1. bone1
          bone1 6 January 2019 21: 28
          0
          Enlighten yourself - do not advertise talkers.
  40. av58
    av58 4 January 2019 15: 12
    0
    You can check the quality and capabilities of the tank only in combat conditions. T-90 checked in Syria, one even got a guided missile. The result is known to everyone: the tank went to the park to change some attachments. The Chinese have not had such success yet, and it does not seem that they will be.
  41. Waldemar
    Waldemar 5 January 2019 00: 15
    0
    One could bet with the Chinese. I remember praised the wisdom of some Chinese that he demanded to check everything on himself first. Experts sit in their miracle tank and the Vietnamese in the T90 and from a distance of 2 km fire at each other. The Chinese are torn down by the tower all the jungle in the guts. Vietnamese buy another t90. A curtain