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The FSB developed a system of protection of temples from terrorists

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In the near future, all the temples located on the territory of Russia will receive the category of anti-terrorism protection, and the degree of security in them will be periodically checked by experts, reports Interfax with reference to the FSB.



The Federal Security Service of Russia on the portal of draft legal acts has posted a draft government decree on the approval of requirements for the antiterrorist protection of objects of religious organizations and the form of their security passport.

The document proposes each temple to assign one of the 3-x categories of security. This should be addressed by the regional commissions, which will include representatives of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Ministry of Emergency Situations, the FSB, the Rosguard and local authorities. The commission will be headed by the abbot of the temple.

Commission members will be required to examine data on the area of ​​the building, its design characteristics, the maximum number of parishioners and the operating schedule. Also, experts must determine the potentially dangerous areas, the degree of threat of terrorist attack and possible damage.

After analyzing the information, the object of a religious organization is assigned a category: first, if the permissible number of terrorists affected by the attack exceeds 1 thousand, and material damage is more than 50 million rubles; second, if the figures are, respectively, up to 1, thousand people and less than 50 million rubles; the third - the number of victims will not exceed 200 people, and the damage - one million rubles.

At the same time, regardless of the category, all churches should be equipped with a warning system and evacuation management, a reliable lighting system, including a courtyard (adjacent) territory. Alarm buttons, video surveillance, anti-ram devices, etc. can also be installed.

According to the draft decree, with employees of temples at least once a year, actions will be practiced when suspicious persons and objects are detected. In addition, scheduled checks of the anti-terrorism protection of buildings are provided.
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  1. Theodore
    Theodore 2 January 2019 18: 47
    +30
    Survived! How I miss the Soviet Union! recourse
    1. svp67
      svp67 2 January 2019 19: 03
      -2
      Quote: Theodore
      How I miss the Soviet Union!

      Aha ... the city for the night "the cow licks its tongue" together with all the inhabitants and SILENCE ... no one knows anything superfluous. "Everything is calm in Baghdad ..." and dancing
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 2 January 2019 21: 38
        +1
        Well, Sergey, where does Baghdad have to do with it? We would have to deal with our own ... wink
      2. XXXIII
        XXXIII 3 January 2019 02: 41
        -1
        The FSB developed a system of protection of temples from terrorists
        Where in Russia terrorists attacked temples?! .......
        1. svp67
          svp67 3 January 2019 02: 48
          +2
          Quote: XXXIII
          Where in Russia terrorists attacked temples?! .......

          On May 19 2018, four armed criminals entered the territory of the Grozny Church of the Archangel Michael during an evening service. According to the head of Chechnya, Ramzan Kadyrov, they carried "small arms, a sawn-off shotgun, knives, hatchets, plastic bottles with a combustible mixture."
          The first at the entrance to the temple, the terrorists killed two law enforcement officers from the Saratov region - Vladimir Gorskov and Kairat Akhmetov

          18 February 2018 in the Dagestan city of Kizlyar, an attack was made on parishioners of the church. According to official statements, 22-year-old Khalil Khalilov opened fire from a hunting rifle, killing four women on the spot, another victim died in the hospital. When trying to detain, the attacker wounded two policemen, after which he was eliminated

          1 October 2016 year. An unknown man broke into the territory of the synagogue in Bolshoi Spasoglinischevsky Lane in the center of Moscow with a gun in his hand and a gas canister, threatening to set it on fire, reports Life. According to the publication, the guard tried to stop him and received a gunshot wound in the chest. He is hospitalized.
      3. Ros 56
        Ros 56 4 January 2019 11: 56
        0
        This is where it was? Actually, it’s supposed to sleep at night, during all my turbulent youth there has never been such a thing that when I return home I haven’t met at least a few people from 2 to 5
    2. A good one
      A good one 2 January 2019 19: 10
      +3
      Also, but probably all the same in childhood and adolescence. hi
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 2 January 2019 19: 14
        -4
        The FSB developed a system of protection of temples from terrorists

        Well, now the howl of the liberals will rise: "The FSB is protecting the churches !!!" yes
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          2. Dart2027
            Dart2027 2 January 2019 19: 34
            -1
            Quote: Pereira
            No temples - no problem

            Schools are also objects that can be targeted by terrorists.
            No schools - no problem?
            1. Pereira
              Pereira 2 January 2019 21: 31
              0
              What does the school have to do with it?
              1. Dart2027
                Dart2027 2 January 2019 22: 26
                +1
                Quote: Pereira
                What does the school have to do with it?

                How does this come about?
                Quote: Dart2027
                Schools are also objects that can be targeted by terrorists.
                What's so incomprehensible?
          3. Waldemar
            Waldemar 2 January 2019 20: 47
            +7
            Maybe you should not call ordinary peaceful people obscurantists? And then your statements just give obscurantism.
          4. Lawyer
            Lawyer 2 January 2019 20: 49
            -4
            People hide their ignorance, and here they boast of it directly. Well? The time for understanding has not come yet (usually, their atheistic waste somewhere miraculously disappears in front of the tombstone).
          5. Vadivak
            Vadivak 2 January 2019 20: 56
            +4
            Quote: Pereira
            Giordano Bruno, I'm coming to you!

            Bruno was burned not for science, but as a heretic, probably now more of them have bred than in the Middle Ages
            "He taught the most monstrous and senseless things, for example ..... that the soul is transmigrated from one body to another and even to another world, that one soul can be in two bodies, that magic is a good and permissible thing ... Christ is not God, he was a famous magician ... and for this he was deservedly hanged, not crucified. The prophets and apostles were worthless people, magicians, and many of them were hanged. To put it in one word - he defended all heresies without exception, ever preached "

            Caspar Shoppe. From a letter to the rector of Altdorf University on February 17, 1600
            1. Pereira
              Pereira 2 January 2019 21: 26
              -1
              Our person.
              1. bober1982
                bober1982 2 January 2019 21: 59
                -2
                Before the execution, this "our man" was gagged in his mouth, he was too talkative, he could not calm down in any way.
          6. Shepherd
            Shepherd 2 January 2019 23: 24
            +2
            Quote: Pereira

            Giordano Bruno, I'm coming to you!

            Oh brother, change your mind! You are tortured to look for him in his delusional worlds ...
        2. Cheslav Tsursky
          Cheslav Tsursky 2 January 2019 20: 22
          0
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          Well, now the howl of the liberals will rise: "The FSB is protecting the churches !!!"

          Well, in this case, the FSB has long been "protecting" sports and educational facilities and other organizations with a massive visit. Safety data sheets have long been introduced by decrees of the Government of the Russian Federation separately for each category of organizations, incl. hotels. Now they also do it for churches - that's right! And why only the FSB? Employees of the Russian Guard also participate in the commissions for categorizing objects, for some institutions they also approve the document from the Internal Affairs Directorate.
          Quote: Pereira
          No temples - no problem. Less, obscurantists.

          What can be said here? No schools, stadiums, theaters ... also no problem? And this comrade calls someone here obscurantists ?!
          1. Pereira
            Pereira 2 January 2019 21: 33
            +2
            Long-tailed money-grubbers. Have you thought about whom?
            1. Cheslav Tsursky
              Cheslav Tsursky 2 January 2019 21: 39
              +2
              Well, do you really think that I will speak with you in a similar manner ?! The whole point of your comments is to insult the Orthodox clergy. An unworthy thing!
              1. Pereira
                Pereira 2 January 2019 21: 40
                +3
                I'm an atheist. For me they are nobody, like the Aztec shamans.
                1. Cheslav Tsursky
                  Cheslav Tsursky 2 January 2019 21: 53
                  -1
                  If you allow yourself to insult the Orthodox clergy to insult the feelings of believers, then at least they are nobody for you! Why should I talk to a person who is so ugly behaving towards millions of citizens of our country?
                  1. Pereira
                    Pereira 2 January 2019 22: 11
                    0
                    It is not said by me: The church must be made of ribs. Then we say goodbye.
                    1. Cheslav Tsursky
                      Cheslav Tsursky 2 January 2019 22: 36
                      +3
                      Quote: Pereira
                      It is not said by me: The church must be made of ribs. Then we say goodbye.

                      But here you should not confuse God's gift with scrambled eggs! This must be understood not in denying the church, but in the sense that without believers the church is not a church! Jesus Christ said: "I will build My Church, and the gates of hell will not prevail against it" (Matthew 16:18). It is important for believers to be in union with God, which means they need a church. It is in the church that each of us is able to approach the Savior. The Fourth Commandment says that a person should work for 6 days, and the seventh should be dedicated to our Savior. According to this, a believer should try to attend church on all resurrection.
                      1. forty-eighth
                        forty-eighth 3 January 2019 21: 11
                        0
                        In an attempt to pull an owl on the globe, you have perverted an unequivocal quote
                      2. Waldemar
                        Waldemar 17 January 2019 10: 53
                        0
                        to be precise, the church is a unity of people, not a church for worship.
                        this character (who is just nobody to call for us) barking at the church of which the clergy are a part (among which there are Cossacks and other abominations, not without it) barks at all.
                2. bober1982
                  bober1982 2 January 2019 22: 02
                  +1
                  Quote: Pereira
                  I'm an atheist.

                  So, also a believer ....... and demons believe, and tremble ...
                  1. Pereira
                    Pereira 2 January 2019 22: 05
                    0
                    So he introduced the praying demons now. From the Duma. Often show. You are absolutely right.
                    1. bober1982
                      bober1982 2 January 2019 22: 24
                      0
                      Quote: Pereira
                      So he introduced the praying demons now

                      And, here I do not recommend it, I will take on such impudence (to give advice) - some kind of nonsense will come to visit you, after such representations.
                      1. Pereira
                        Pereira 2 January 2019 22: 31
                        +2
                        In this case, I do not consider the advice to be insolence. On the contrary, I am sincerely grateful for the care. Only demons have nothing to take from me. My soul is free to choose. After death, I will go for reincarnation.
                      2. bober1982
                        bober1982 2 January 2019 22: 41
                        +2
                        Quote: Pereira
                        My soul is free to choose. After death, I will go for reincarnation.

                        Then why do you call yourself an atheist? By the way, I liked the freedom of soul choice. Of course, I didn’t like reincarnation, of course, but in any case it remains to wish good luck.
                      3. poquello
                        poquello 2 January 2019 23: 05
                        +1
                        Quote: Pereira
                        After death, I will go for reincarnation.

                        and reborn the toilet
                      4. Passer
                        Passer 3 January 2019 07: 38
                        +3
                        Quote: bober1982
                        Quote: Pereira
                        So he introduced the praying demons now

                        And, here I do not recommend it, I will take on such impudence (to give advice) - some kind of nonsense will come to visit you, after such representations.

                        To go nuts! Russia, 21st century.
                        "You offend the feelings of believers - some besyara will come to visit you."
                      5. Waldemar
                        Waldemar 17 January 2019 10: 54
                        0
                        21st century say? 21st century FROM CHRISTMAS. Now
                      6. Waldemar
                        Waldemar 17 January 2019 10: 53
                        +1
                        he is already possessed.
        3. svp67
          svp67 3 January 2019 01: 42
          +3
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          Well, now the howl of the liberals will rise: "The FSB is protecting the churches !!!"

          So under the definition: "temples" not only churches, but also mosques, synagogues and other religious buildings fall. And the events are ordinary. Schools, clubs, houses of culture, that is, all places where large gatherings of people take place have long gone through these procedures and received their "passports" ...
        4. Deck
          Deck 4 January 2019 12: 50
          0
          Ensuring anti-terrorism protection is a direct responsibility of the owners of facilities, as provided for in the provisions of 35-FZ. Current legislation provides for serious liability for failure to fulfill this obligation. One of the main violations in this area is the lack of a passport on anti-terrorist protection (PAZ) or its incorrect design. Responsibility for this violation is provided for in the Code of Administrative Offenses of the Russian Federation.
          The current edition of the Administrative Code contains several articles at once, according to which the perpetrator of a violation in this area can be held accountable. The most common situation is the application of Art. 19.5.1. It is used to determine the size of the fine for the lack of a passport of anti-terrorism protection for most organizations. According to it, the maximum fine for companies is 1 million rubles. It can be replaced by a shutdown for up to 90 days.
          Question: who will pay for this not a cheap event? If the owners of religious institutions, then I am for.
          And it will be so interesting to see how the church will be closed for three months. This is a discharge to meet Putin on the subway
    3. Finches
      Finches 2 January 2019 19: 43
      +6
      Temples, like it or not, a place of mass crowds and let's not blame or argue, but security here should also be a priority for the Federal Service Security[i] [/ i], like in stadiums, concert halls, large museums ... Tomorrow what happened and those who mock today about this and joke, will run screaming - Where the FSB and Putin look personally!
      1. bogart047
        bogart047 2 January 2019 19: 53
        +12
        so there the roof is more solid than the FSB. Angels and Others
        1. Finches
          Finches 2 January 2019 19: 56
          +6
          Hope for God, but don’t be bad! hi
        2. Waldemar
          Waldemar 2 January 2019 20: 49
          0
          Ilya Muromets seems to have been a monk.
          1. Pereira
            Pereira 2 January 2019 21: 34
            0
            Landowner. 40 years he lived in the estate, went bankrupt, drove the dough to cut down on the princely courtyard. I won’t say anything about loot, but I got glory.
          2. Vadivak
            Vadivak 2 January 2019 21: 35
            +2
            Quote: Valdemar
            Ilya Muromets seems to have been a monk.

            At the end of life

            February 2, on the feast of the Presentation of the Lord, by a meal in the Pechora Monastery ...; and a hang-out to the St. Anthony's Cave ... Immediately by the way of the brave warrior Ilya of Muromets incorrupt under the golden cover, the growth of the present large people; his left hand is pierced with a copy; an ulcer all to know on a hand; and his right hand depicts the sign of the cross.

            - Journey to the holy land of Priest John Lukyanov
      2. evgen1221
        evgen1221 2 January 2019 20: 19
        +2
        Where you need to go there and looks - the problem is that people are not enough to plug all holes - demography's in the country and its size
  2. GKS 2111
    GKS 2111 2 January 2019 18: 49
    +1
    SWF replaced by the FSB, and set-off article !!! wink
    1. Rostov Papa
      Rostov Papa 2 January 2019 18: 55
      +2
      So the comrade holidays, eyepieces happen laughing and not only....
  3. poquello
    poquello 2 January 2019 18: 55
    +6
    To all the priests - KMB!
    1. Lamatinets
      Lamatinets 2 January 2019 20: 11
      0
      And military ranks, secretly. Metropolitan - Army General !!! Comrade clergy, I ask everyone to get up)))
    2. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 2 January 2019 20: 17
      -2
      I know of two priests, who will also carry colleagues on themselves at KMB. Fight as a mixture of Tyson and Emelianenko)). Well, they’ll cross the whole platoon - I have no doubt about that.
      1. Finches
        Finches 2 January 2019 20: 26
        0
        From time immemorial, Russian priests have been prepared properly on all issues ... People, when the foreigner was bending down, where were they hiding in the most difficult moment? In the temple! And here, feed and defend and organize morally support - so that the school be healthy! Even Joseph Vissarionovich in 1941 paid special attention to the church! When .... on the doorstep, not to show off how the phrase sounded in "They fought for the Motherland" a soldier baptized before a German attack:"After all, this is what the bastards have brought a man to! Well, of course, I, as a non-partisan, do not forbid all this religion. But still, it’s not very good, it’s not very good for me to figure out ... I guess the need will make you not only throw such a leg "Death, she’s not her aunt, she’s equally scary to everyone - to the party and non-partisans, and to every other person."
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 2 January 2019 21: 28
          +3
          Quote: Finches
          Even Joseph Vissarionovich in 1941 paid special attention to the church!

          It's a shame why even.
          A pupil of the Gori Theological School Joseph Dzhugashvili ... entered in September 1889 in the first class of the school and with excellent behavior (5) showed success:
          According to the Holy History of the Old Testament - (5)
          According to the Holy History of the New Testament - (5)
          According to the Orthodox Catechism - (5)
          To the explanation of worship with the church charter - (5)
          Russian with Church Slavonic - (5)
          Languages
          Greek - (4) very good
          Georgian - (5) excellent
          Arithmetic - (4) very good
          Geography - (5)
          Calligraphy - (5)
          Church singing
          Russian - (5)
          and Georgian - (5) "
          1. Finches
            Finches 2 January 2019 21: 33
            +2
            Because the idea of ​​Bolshevism was basically an expression of materialism, which put atheism at the forefront! But when she came ..., here, wise, without sarcasm, Iosif Vissarionovich remembered his seminary beginnings - the country needed to be united! Hence the famous "Brothers and sisters! I am addressing you, my friends ....!" This is exactly what I wrote about, but this is not ostentatious, like many of today's politicians, dragging to church on business and without business, but from the heart went, therefore it became effective! hi
            1. Vadivak
              Vadivak 2 January 2019 21: 39
              +2
              Quote: Finches
              but from the heart it went, and therefore it became effective!


              Like all that is from the heart
        2. sabakina
          sabakina 2 January 2019 22: 28
          +2
          Eugene, a good movie and a great quote. Only God is high, the authorities are far away, and the people are nearby ...
      2. Lamatinets
        Lamatinets 2 January 2019 20: 39
        +1
        For priests is not the main thing))))
      3. The Little Humpbacked Horse
        The Little Humpbacked Horse 2 January 2019 21: 18
        +3
        Quote: Krasnodar
        I know two priests who on KMB will also carry colleagues on themselves


        That is, these priests are former military?
        Just like in that joke
        The ensign is asked:
        “Now, if the army is gone, where are you going?”
        - To the police.
        - And if there will be no police?
        - To the firemen.
        - And if there will be no firefighters?
        - Che pestering? I won’t work anyway
        1. Shepherd
          Shepherd 2 January 2019 22: 07
          +5
          Are you sure that you have a good idea of ​​the life of a Russian priest? How much human grief passes through it? For some time I worked as a security guard in a Moscow monastery - I've seen enough of it.
          I remember a woman alone, the whole woman roared - her daughter died. The girl is 15 years old and 12 operations (mainly on the heart). During the latter, the heart stopped twice. The doctor went out, explained everything and said that maybe you shouldn’t torture your daughter. She agreed. Here's where she go with this?
          And how many abandoned people come - husbands, wives, old people, even children ...
          In addition, there are also nursing homes, shelters. After visiting some for a week you will come to your senses - such a hopelessness.
          People dump everything on the priest, without a trace: their grievances, bitterness, loneliness, depravity.
          In our state there is no other social institution capable of assuming the functions that the Church performs. There is only one alternative - to drink sorrow with vodka.
          And on the topic of discussion, here’s what I’ll say: back in 2010, many places of worship in Moscow were closely monitored by the FSB - such a time.
          1. sabakina
            sabakina 2 January 2019 22: 37
            +2
            Temple House of God. The priest is a mediator between me and God. Do I need him? Mediator? Yes. christening, singing is one thing, and everything else? I do not say, there are priests who serve God, but obviously not in the capitals ...
            1. Shepherd
              Shepherd 2 January 2019 23: 11
              +1
              A priest is not a mediator - he is a primate. This is a very significant difference. In the old days, the priest was chosen by people from the church community. The task of the priest is (in a simplified way) to knock on the door of heaven day and night and shout: "Lord, open it! It's me and my children." The key expression here is "my children", that is, members of the community.
              As for the clergy in the capital, it’s in vain that you are the majority — worthy people.
            2. Tatanka Yotanka
              Tatanka Yotanka 3 January 2019 12: 20
              +1
              Quote: sabakina
              Temple House of God.

              "God ... does not live in temples made with hands" (Acts 17:24)
              "... you are the temple of God, and the Spirit of God dwells in you? ... this temple is you." (1 Cor. 3: 16,17)
              "... your bodies are a temple ..." (1 Cor. 6:19)
              "... you are the temple of the living God ...". (2 Cor. 6:16)
              "... but his house is we, ...". (Heb 3: 6)
              Quote: sabakina
              Intermediary priest between me and God

              For there is one God, one and mediator between God and men ... Christ Jesus ”(1-Tim. 2: 5)
              1. Warrior2015
                Warrior2015 3 January 2019 16: 26
                0
                Quote: Tatanka Yotanka
                "God ... does not live in temples made with hands" (Acts 17:24)

                Despite the fact that Jesus Christ himself visited the Jerusalem temple during His earthly life and never called on anyone to perform sacred rituals.
                1. Tatanka Yotanka
                  Tatanka Yotanka 3 January 2019 19: 15
                  +1
                  Quote: Warrior2015
                  Despite the fact that Jesus Christ himself visited the Jerusalem Temple during His earthly life

                  like any Jew of that time, he visited the synagogue, while he denounced the priests

                  And you are not called teachers, for one Teacher you have is Christ, yet you are brothers;
                  and do not call anyone your father on earth, for you have one Father who is in heaven;
                  and do not be called mentors, for one of your Mentors is Christ. Matthew 23.8,9,10
                  how close, -batyushka, holy father, mentor, confessor, and he chose the desert for serious prayer
                  Quote: Warrior2015
                  and never called not to perform sacred rites.

                  and somewhere he called on them to perform? What rites did he perform when treating the sick, the blind, the expulsion of demons, the forgiveness of a robber on the cross, dressed in expensive clothes? waved a censer? maybe at the last night something like that was? etc etc
                  1. Warrior2015
                    Warrior2015 3 January 2019 20: 19
                    0
                    Quote: Tatanka Yotanka
                    and somewhere called them to perform?

                    "... I came not to break the Covenant, but to fulfill" ..

                    Quote: Tatanka Yotanka
                    maybe on the last evening something like this happened?

                    Actually, yes, it was at the Last Supper that he laid the foundation for the Christian Liturgy for the next two millennia ("Do this in remembrance of me").
                    1. Tatanka Yotanka
                      Tatanka Yotanka 4 January 2019 08: 45
                      0
                      Quote: Warrior2015
                      I came not to break the Covenant, but to fulfill "..

                      and where is it about rituals? Is it not about the old testament that the death penalty relied on for a lot of crime? Did he take all sins upon himself on the cross and clear the way for the new testament?
                      Quote: Warrior2015
                      laid the foundation for the Christian Liturgy

                      You wrote as if God needed human development, and didn’t it occur to you that he showed how to do it without beautifully decorated expensive clothes, pomp, pomp, and hypocrisy
    3. Freeman
      Freeman 2 January 2019 21: 47
      0
      Quote: poquello
      To all the priests - KMB!

      For military priests, or as they are officially called, "assistants to commanders of formations, military units and universities for working with believing military personnel," such courses have been operating since 2013.
      The plot of the TK "ZVEZDA"
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 2 January 2019 22: 44
        +1
        Someone is taught, but someone already knows ....
  4. Nord2015
    Nord2015 2 January 2019 18: 55
    +11
    For terrorists there is nothing sacred, that a mosque, that an Orthodox church. Our special services are doing their job, for which many thanks to them.
  5. svp67
    svp67 2 January 2019 19: 02
    +3
    According to the draft decree, with employees of temples at least once a year, actions will be practiced when suspicious persons and objects are detected. In addition, scheduled checks of the anti-terrorism protection of buildings are provided.
    Yeah ... HOPE FOR GOD, DON'T MISS YOURSELF
  6. A good one
    A good one 2 January 2019 19: 05
    +1
    It's time, public places all the same. Here, believers are more vulnerable than ever.
    1. Warrior2015
      Warrior2015 2 January 2019 19: 18
      +15
      Quote: Not bad
      Here, believers are more helpless than ever before.

      Actually, true Christians do not need any protection from the FSB (this is not banishment, this is a reality for a truly believing person), God Himself protects them (and if He determines that individuals will be in the place of the terrorist act, and they will perish there Will).

      And the new project, judging by everything, is another window dressing or a project for the realization of financial interests. What are the annual exercises, what anti-rant devices, what nonsense? A few years ago, Christians in Syria generally went to dilapidated churches to serve liturgy with the direct threat of jihadists just to come and look at them all or shoot them, and here ...

      If the special services want really effective protection of the citizens of Russia, then they need deep inner work among jihadists and action to prevent them, this is very difficult, but also most effective.
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak 2 January 2019 19: 35
        0
        Quote: Warrior2015
        and if He predestines in the place of the terrorist attack to be certain persons, and to die there, then His Will

        Amen.
      2. Cheslav Tsursky
        Cheslav Tsursky 2 January 2019 20: 32
        +4
        Quote: Warrior2015
        Actually, true Christians do not need any protection from the FSB (this is not banishment, this is a reality for a truly believing person), God Himself protects them (and if He determines that individuals will be in the place of the terrorist act, and they will perish there Will).

        God did not create robots from people with an embedded program. God gave man freedom of choice. For the fall, man was cast down from Paradise, and since then we have done a lot. There is good and evil in the world. The FSB and our other special services protect both believers and atheists.
        Quote: Warrior2015
        And the new project, judging by everything, is another window dressing or a project for the realization of financial interests. What are the annual exercises, what anti-rant devices, what nonsense? A few years ago, Christians in Syria generally went to dilapidated churches to serve liturgy with the direct threat of jihadists just to come and look at them all or shoot them, and here ...

        And then what ?! What does not suit you? Of course, anti-ram devices and alarm buttons are also needed in those places where security television systems with the ability to recognize faces are needed! All this is necessary precisely so that Christians and Muslims and Buddhists do not live with us, as in Syria! And before you blame someone for showing off or for corruption, just ask about the essence of the matter. Maybe you do not dare to write such awkward things ...
        1. Warrior2015
          Warrior2015 2 January 2019 21: 54
          0
          Quote: Cheslav Czursky
          Of course, we also need anti-ramming devices and alarm buttons, and in places where security television systems are needed with the ability to recognize faces!

          In Christian churches this is just not necessary. Here you can talk for a long time, why. In public places - yes, please, only for the benefit.

          Quote: Cheslav Czursky
          All this is necessary precisely so that Christians and Muslims and Buddhists do not live with us, as in Syria!
          The presence of alarm buttons and anti-ram devices does not contribute to this. This is facilitated by certain prohibitive measures in relation to one religion, as well as deep internal work both with the clergy of this one religion and within individual communities, primarily to identify secret prayer rooms and hidden radical cells.

          Quote: Cheslav Czursky
          And before you blame someone for window-dressing or corruption, just ask the essence of the issue.
          Actually, I didn’t even think of blaming anyone, it’s just that the general message and the planned benefits are clearly visible to me (what, we don’t have laws at all without lobbyism, right?). This is my personal opinion, you want to have yours - yes, please, no one forbids it. drinks
          1. Cheslav Tsursky
            Cheslav Tsursky 2 January 2019 22: 11
            +1
            Quote: Warrior2015
            Actually, I didn’t think of blaming anyone, just from the above I can clearly see the general message and the planned benefits (what, the laws are adopted here, well, without lobbying, right?).

            Here we are not talking about the Federal Law, but about the Government Decree. Federal Law No. 35 "On Countering Terrorism" was adopted on March 6, 2006 (as amended on April 18.04.2018, XNUMX (anti-terrorist security of an object (territory) ... a place of mass stay of people ...
            Quote: Warrior2015
            The presence of panic buttons and anti-ram devices does not contribute to this. This is facilitated by certain prohibitive measures in relation to one religion, as well as deep internal work as with the clergy of this one religion,

            This is a set of measures, as operational measures, including a secret, secret nature and technical security of the facility and much more ... And this is not only my opinion, but the line of work of the corresponding special services.
      3. KAV
        KAV 3 January 2019 00: 23
        +1
        God Himself Protects Them
        And as an option, maybe he protects just such means? Strengths from the FSB?
        Remember the joke about the Jewish old man? Yes, God sent so much help, but the old man never took advantage of it, counting on a miracle ...
        So, maybe this is a miracle?
        Although, it is hard to believe, to be honest ...
    2. Terenin
      Terenin 2 January 2019 23: 41
      +2
      Quote: Not bad
      It's time, public places all the same. Here, believers are more vulnerable than ever.

      I agree. Timely and correct decision. These issues are not accepted just like that, they are being worked out with all interested departments. It should be borne in mind that the intelligence services also have agent infa.
  7. Mouse
    Mouse 2 January 2019 19: 08
    +4
    it’s better to talk than to beat, as my dad used to say ...
    1. A good one
      A good one 2 January 2019 19: 17
      +1
      He spoke correctly, in an accessible way, according to the workers' and peasants.
      1. Mouse
        Mouse 2 January 2019 19: 34
        +1
        underwater Pacific Fleet ... not cheeky bunches ... wink walked knows ...
  8. ANCIENT
    ANCIENT 2 January 2019 19: 13
    0
    This applies to hope all religious denominations!
  9. Qwertyarion
    Qwertyarion 2 January 2019 19: 26
    +7
    And in kindergartens, schools and hospitals, a similar project has obviously already been implemented since it remains only to equip the temples with protection.
    1. Blackgrifon
      Blackgrifon 2 January 2019 19: 36
      +1
      Well, actually, all social. objects have long been subject to antiterrorist requirements. And different MBU / GBU for their violations are not shaking weakly. It goes to different shopping centers (though not as actively as state and municipal organizations). The only ones who fell out from under this sphere are religious institutions: mosques and churches.
      1. Qwertyarion
        Qwertyarion 2 January 2019 19: 41
        +8
        Recall the Kerch shooter and the effectiveness of college defense. Do you think that in the social protection system. has something changed?
    2. KAV
      KAV 3 January 2019 00: 27
      +2
      Quote: Qwertyarion
      And in kindergartens, schools and hospitals, a similar project is obviously already implemented

      Yes, not schools with hospitals need to be protected, but the minds of our children !!! And not by special services, but by parents, first of all !!!
  10. Evgenijus
    Evgenijus 2 January 2019 19: 30
    +1
    Protection of crowded places should always be one of the main tasks of the FSB. Sometimes you might think that the FSB guards the border posts on the border of Russia. This is not true. In Russia, major museums basically have places of worship, for example, Isaac or other temples. The places of worship can be called the buildings of variety arenas, although the cult there is peculiar, mostly of a Western kind. But these places must be protected. No matter what a person professes, he has the right to a safe life if he is not a terrorist himself.
    1. Warrior2015
      Warrior2015 2 January 2019 23: 43
      +1
      Quote: Evgenijus
      Sometimes you might think that the FSB guards the border posts on the border of Russia.

      Well, actually, for many years now, as frontier troops have been part of this department, so you are partly wrong.
  11. bogart047
    bogart047 2 January 2019 19: 51
    +3
    may their god protect. Yes, and also free. Better start with schools.
  12. Lamatinets
    Lamatinets 2 January 2019 19: 55
    +11
    1. according to the constitution, the church is separated from the state, but a priest is introduced into the commission (in fact, an interim body of authority) !!!! 2. You can not turn to God even in the church, right now the remodels are not fully prayed. 3. The best defense against terrorism is to close all churches))))
    1. Non liberoid Russian
      Non liberoid Russian 2 January 2019 20: 25
      +3
      the Slavs generally in the open air in the clearing ruled the faith and Nitsche, without temples dispensed
    2. Shepherd
      Shepherd 2 January 2019 22: 29
      +1
      Quote: Lamatinets
      The best defense against terrorism is to close all churches))))

      Islam divides the world into three categories: land of peace (Islamic countries), land of treaty and land of war.
      For Muslims, Christians are people of the Book, and you can negotiate with them and live together.
      Close the churches and you will automatically become simply pagans, and your land will become a land of war.
      This is the main reason why the Crimean Tatars massively collaborated with the Germans.
      Superficial judgments are the most dangerous.
      1. Warrior2015
        Warrior2015 2 January 2019 23: 48
        +1
        Quote: Shepherd
        Islam divides the world into three categories: the land of the world (Islamic countries), the land of the treaty and the land of war. For Muslims, Christians are people of the Book, and with them you can negotiate and live together. Close the churches, and you will automatically become just pagans, and your land will become a land-war. This is the main reason why the Crimean Tatars collaborated massively with the Germans.
        Superficial judgments are the most dangerous.

        Very true judgment!
  13. Prisoner
    Prisoner 2 January 2019 19: 57
    +5
    “Hope in God, but you’re not good at yourself”, “God, God, don’t be bad yourself,” “God takes care of the saved,” etc. what If the synagogues, datsans, mosques and churches have to be cherished by the special services, maybe the Most High does not need them at all?
    1. Lamatinets
      Lamatinets 2 January 2019 20: 14
      +4
      It seems that the Almighty Faith in him needs human, not religious buildings and personnel serving these structures.
      1. Lawyer
        Lawyer 2 January 2019 21: 03
        -1
        And where will you go to pray, be baptized, confess, or receive communion? To the stadium? or maybe in a movie theater? Temples are an expression of our faith, a sanctified place of prayer and sacraments.
    2. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 2 January 2019 20: 20
      -1
      The synagogue, mosque, church do not cancel the old Old Testament Commandment - destroy the insurgent to kill you.
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak 2 January 2019 21: 12
        +2
        Quote: Krasnodar
        The synagogue, mosque, church do not cancel the old Old Testament Commandment - destroy the insurgent to kill you.


        Jewish tradition forbids killing. Murder is one of the most terrible sins, and the commandment "Thou shalt not kill" was included in the ten most important commandments of the Jewish faith, violation of which was followed by death. But one of the commandments of the Torah says: "And if there is harm, then give soul for soul." To avenge the premeditated murder of a relative, friend, close person is a commandment for relatives, friends and relatives of the murdered person.

        The Talmud, in turn, commands the prevention of murder: "Whoever came to kill you - get up and kill first."

      2. Warrior2015
        Warrior2015 2 January 2019 21: 57
        +1
        Quote: Krasnodar
        The synagogue, mosque, church do not cancel the old Old Testament Commandment - destroy the insurgent to kill you.

        Christians are not guided by the Old Testament morality, we prefer the commandments of our Lord Jesus Christ.
        1. irazum
          irazum 2 January 2019 22: 33
          +1
          Don't talk nonsense, they are guided and how! "In the name of Ots, Son and Holy Spirit", "Father" is who in your opinion?
          1. Warrior2015
            Warrior2015 2 January 2019 23: 38
            +2
            Quote: irazum
            Don't talk nonsense, they are guided and how! "In the name of Ots, Son and Holy Spirit", "Father" is who in your opinion?

            God is the Creator of the Universe. And where is the Old Testament moral in the dogma of the Holy Trinity, eh?
        2. Shepherd
          Shepherd 2 January 2019 23: 42
          +2
          You are not quite right: the 10 commandments were given to Moses and no one has canceled them, but they are rethought in the light of grace and supplemented with the commandments of bliss. And the Holy Tradition itself speaks of resistance to evil by force - many Christian saints were warriors.
    3. sabakina
      sabakina 2 January 2019 22: 59
      0
      I don’t remember where and when I read that the Germans bombed everything in the Second World War, and not a single bomb, not a single shell hit the church ...
      1. SS-18 Satan
        SS-18 Satan 3 January 2019 00: 13
        +2
        and these churches, by mistake, the Germans blew up .. https://nlo-mir.ru/tretiureih/24526-pamjatniki-russkoj-arhitektury-razrushennye-fashistami.html
  14. bone1
    bone1 2 January 2019 20: 39
    0
    And what can the Lord not look after? laughing
  15. Hog
    Hog 2 January 2019 20: 53
    +4
    What for? God will protect the true believers.
  16. irazum
    irazum 2 January 2019 22: 30
    0
    Yes, priests will never allow some kind of cameras to be put in their "diocese". Well, how do they know what's going on there?
  17. SS-18 Satan
    SS-18 Satan 2 January 2019 23: 59
    +4
    and rightly so ... miners and workers themselves must protect themselves at home and at work. but God's protection doesn’t help. and the state should protect them .. otherwise you never know what !!
  18. L10n77
    L10n77 3 January 2019 00: 16
    0
    Well, yes, churches, mosques, synagogues are more important for our government than schools, kindergartens, hospitals, and institutes. How they were "protected" from terrorists was clearly visible in Kerch, and even now nothing has changed in schools. But we will defend obscurantists ...
  19. Black owerlord
    Black owerlord 3 January 2019 00: 24
    +2
    Murmansk. Instead of the Stroitel stadium, they want to plant a giant almshouse in the city center. Coincidence?
    And yet another demoniac proposes to rename the city to "Romanov-na-Murman", although the king-rag is involved in the city only by his signature.
  20. slavaseven
    slavaseven 3 January 2019 08: 49
    +1
    That's right, citizens anywhere must be safe.
    And let's not weave the questions of faith here.
  21. ludrosia
    ludrosia 3 January 2019 12: 57
    0
    Quote: Theodore
    Survived! How I miss the Soviet Union! recourse

    Because in the Soviet Union, such safety rules were developed and respected, because citizens were safe.
  22. Swetly
    Swetly 3 January 2019 12: 58
    0
    It would be better to pay attention to kindergartens and schools.
  23. APASUS
    APASUS 3 January 2019 13: 05
    0
    Whose cant is not clear. Well, if you develop standards, it should sound like: Safety standards for religious buildings. Where did the Mosques, Synagogues, Datsans from this list go?
    After all, attacks are carried out in all religious buildings
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    1. Dart2027
      Dart2027 3 January 2019 16: 12
      0
      Quote: ludrossia
      What a stupid joke-spitting on our defenders-the army, the police. and rescue firefighters.

      When I was in school, there was a saying that unreasonable laughter indicates a lack of intellectual ability.
  25. ludrosia
    ludrosia 3 January 2019 13: 35
    +1
    Quote: Shepherd
    Are you sure that you have a good idea of ​​the life of a Russian priest? How much human grief passes through it? For some time I worked as a security guard in a Moscow monastery - I've seen enough of it.
    I remember a woman alone, the whole woman roared - her daughter died. The girl is 15 years old and 12 operations (mainly on the heart). During the latter, the heart stopped twice. The doctor went out, explained everything and said that maybe you shouldn’t torture your daughter. She agreed. Here's where she go with this?
    And how many abandoned people come - husbands, wives, old people, even children ...
    In addition, there are also nursing homes, shelters. After visiting some for a week you will come to your senses - such a hopelessness.
    People dump everything on the priest, without a trace: their grievances, bitterness, loneliness, depravity.
    In our state there is no other social institution capable of assuming the functions that the Church performs. There is only one alternative - to drink sorrow with vodka.
    And on the topic of discussion, here’s what I’ll say: back in 2010, many places of worship in Moscow were closely monitored by the FSB - such a time.


    I very much agree with you. Those people who spit and throw mud at the Russian Orthodox Church are our enemies and act as the adviser to several American presidents taught himself, a great hater of Russia, a Pole by origin and a Catholic by religion, Zbigniew Brzezinski, has repeatedly said that: "Orthodoxy is the main spiritual bond of Russia. And the main thing that needs to be done by the West is to destroy Orthodoxy in Russia." decent, or unbeliever, and then he is a pig. "The tasks of Bzezhinsky and all enemies of Russia are to turn all of us into pigs. And for this, we need to deprive us of our spiritual foundation.
    The Russian Orthodox Church is a very useful organization. The largest charitable social organization. That's what the Russian Orthodox Church does.
    The social ministry of the Russian Orthodox Church today is more than four thousand 4 initiatives and projects. For example, in the Orthodox Church in Russia, there are 000 shelters for orphans and children left without parental care. the quality of upbringing of these children is orphans. People from church shelters receive higher education six times more often than people from state orphanages. Among those who have left church shelters, there are thirty times fewer convicts and alcoholics than among those who have left state institutions of this type. Think about it — forty percent of those who leave state orphanages become criminals and alcoholics. And those who leave church shelters — only one percent falls into this situation. More than half of graduates of state orphanages are subsequently divorced. And only four percent of graduates of church shelters subsequently get divorced. The contrast is obvious. In Russia, four hundred and 65 Orthodox organizations organizations that help children and adults with disabilities. Forty 400 nursing homes operate in the church. In the Orthodox Church, there are ninety-five 40 shelters for the homeless. More than five hundred and 95 Orthodox organizations help alcohol-dependent people and their relatives. There are seventy 500 rehabilitation centers in the church to help. The Russian Orthodox Church maintains fifty-two 70 shelters for women and families in crisis situations. One hundred and fifteen 52 humanitarian aid centers operate, which distribute things among families in need. Separately, assistance is provided in emergency situations, for example: in case of floods, during fires or when help is needed for refugees from hot spots. There are more than five hundred and 115 charity groups in the church. Sisters of charity take care of the sick and elderly. They carry out patronage at home. They work as nurses in the largest hospitals throughout Russia. Many work with HIV-infected people, from whom secular volunteers usually refuse. enormous enlightenment work. Over the past couple of years, about seventy thousand people have become students of various courses in church institutions in Russia. Helplines are working. Methodical literature is being published. In one word, the Russian Orthodox Church is the largest charitable organization in Russia. And once again, the largest social charitable organization in Russia.
    Advisor to several American presidents, a great hater of Russia, a Pole by birth and a Catholic by religion, Zbigniew Brzezinski, has repeatedly said that Orthodoxy is the main spiritual bond of Russia. And most importantly, what the West needs to do is to destroy Orthodoxy in Russia. It seems that Bzezhinsky-learned the lesson of Dostoevsky well. And Fyodor Mikhailovich said that the Russian person is either a believer and then he is decent; or if he is not a believer then he is a pig. The tasks of Bzezhinsky and all the enemies of Russia are to turn us all into pigs. And for this - it is necessary to deprive us of the spiritual foundation.
  26. ludrosia
    ludrosia 3 January 2019 13: 39
    +1
    Quote: Valdemar
    Ilya Muromets seems to have been a monk.

    Yes. And his relics are still resting in the Kiev Pechersk Lavra.
  27. ludrosia
    ludrosia 3 January 2019 13: 40
    0
    Quote: Nord2015
    For terrorists there is nothing sacred, that a mosque, that an Orthodox church. Our special services are doing their job, for which many thanks to them.

    That's right, that's right.
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  29. ludrosia
    ludrosia 3 January 2019 14: 01
    0
    Quote: Cheslav Tsursky
    Quote: Warrior2015
    Actually, true Christians do not need any protection from the FSB (this is not banishment, this is a reality for a truly believing person), God Himself protects them (and if He determines that individuals will be in the place of the terrorist act, and they will perish there Will).

    God did not create robots from people with an embedded program. God gave man freedom of choice. For the fall, man was cast down from Paradise, and since then we have done a lot. There is good and evil in the world. The FSB and our other special services protect both believers and atheists.
    Quote: Warrior2015
    And the new project, judging by everything, is another window dressing or a project for the realization of financial interests. What are the annual exercises, what anti-rant devices, what nonsense? A few years ago, Christians in Syria generally went to dilapidated churches to serve liturgy with the direct threat of jihadists just to come and look at them all or shoot them, and here ...

    And then what ?! What does not suit you? Of course, anti-ram devices and alarm buttons are also needed in those places where security television systems with the ability to recognize faces are needed! All this is necessary precisely so that Christians and Muslims and Buddhists do not live with us, as in Syria! And before you blame someone for showing off or for corruption, just ask about the essence of the matter. Maybe you do not dare to write such awkward things ...

    That's right, I support.
  30. ludrosia
    ludrosia 3 January 2019 14: 02
    0
    Quote: KAV
    God Himself Protects Them
    And as an option, maybe he protects just such means? Strengths from the FSB?
    Remember the joke about the Jewish old man? Yes, God sent so much help, but the old man never took advantage of it, counting on a miracle ...
    So, maybe this is a miracle?
    Although, it is hard to believe, to be honest ...

    All right, right.
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