Abe promised not to evict Russians from the Kuril Islands

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Tokyo still claims to the four islands of the South Kuriles, but is not going to evict Russian citizens from there, reports RIA News Statement by Prime Minister of Japan Shinzo Abe.





The topic of how to solve the issue with the current residents of the islands, if they will be returned to the jurisdiction of Tokyo, was raised in an interview with Japanese journalists.

The population of the Northern Territories (as the Japanese call the southern islands of the Kuril ridge) are citizens of Russia. However, our position in the negotiations is not that, they say, “you please leave there”,
said abe.

According to him, the transfer of the islands of Japan should occur with the consent of local residents. At the same time, the prime minister noted that the Russians and the Japanese could well live and work together.

The statement of the Japanese Prime Minister was commented by a member of the Federation Council, Franz Klintsevich. He advised him to refrain from such forecasts, especially since "the transfer of the so-called Northern Territories to Japan is out of the question."

And it's not just that American missile defense can appear on the islands. The question is much more fundamental: it is about the inviolability of the Russian borders and the security of Russia in the widest sense,
declared Klintsevich.

In January (tentatively 21 numbers) Abe is going to visit Moscow again, where negotiations on the conclusion of a peace treaty should continue. The previous meeting of the leaders of the two countries took place on December 14. Following its results, Abe said that the parties agreed to speed up the negotiation process, based on the Soviet-Japanese declaration of the year 1956.

This document expressed the parties' intention to sign a peace treaty, after which the Soviet Union would transfer Shikotan and Habomai to Japan. The declaration was ratified by the parliaments of both countries. However, later, Tokyo refused to implement it, setting forth the conditions for the return of four islands at once (Shikotan, Habomai, Kunashir and Iturup). Moreover, their transfer, according to the demand of the Japanese side, should foreshadow the conclusion of a peace treaty, and not vice versa, as was indicated in the declaration.
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  1. +58
    2 January 2019 09: 24
    Well, thanks to "Dear Father", just roll up your little lips and forget about the islands.
    1. +1
      2 January 2019 09: 30
      Abe is somehow sad. It is not easy for him with Vovan (((
      1. +5
        2 January 2019 17: 39
        But you never know what the Russians promise Abe !!!
        Abe is now alive, but tomorrow he took it and died! But Japan itself with its history and its predatory mentality of genocide against other peoples was, is and will be!
        Therefore, what Abe proclaims to the world and promises the Russian Federation not to evict Russians from the Kuril Islands under the Japanese administrative-territorial authority in the Kuril Islandsdoes not mean at all that the Russians will not die out there in the end, prisoners in concentration camps and reservations.

        Let us recall the death factory of the Japanese militarists "detachment 731".
        The "731 Detachment" was engaged not only in biological weapons, but also the Japanese physicians of the detachment conducted their terrible medical experiments there on ethnic prisoners of other nations on human survival in extreme conditions!
        It was the Soviet Union that put an end to the existence of the "731 detachment".
        On August 9, 1945, Soviet troops launched an offensive against the Japanese army, and Detachment 731 was ordered to "act at its own discretion." Work on the evacuation of "Detachment 731" began by the Japanese on the night of August 10-11, and traces of "Detachment 731" were later discovered on the same Kuriles!

        In addition, Japan from under the wing of the USA never repented of her war crimes in WWII!

        There can simply be no confidence of Abe from the Russian Federation in this matter!
        1. 0
          3 January 2019 07: 46
          Quote: Tatiana
          But Japan itself with its history and with its predatory mentality of genocide against other peoples was, is and will be!

          With almost everything, I agree with you. Sorry, I can’t discuss now (put an avatar)
          1. +2
            3 January 2019 14: 49
            Our Kuril Islands !!! We will not give it back !!! Already hide the skin! Not the skin for you, but the ears of a dead donkey!
      2. +5
        2 January 2019 20: 46
        Quote: Chertt
        Abe is somehow sad. It is not easy for him with Vovan (((

        How did you decide that?
        The fact is that, since he said so, he had some reason to say so. So he was given some hope of getting the islands. And who gave him this hope? That is the root of the question. Politicians just do not scatter words. This is not some kind of political scientist. This is prime. And that bothers me.
        1. 0
          3 January 2019 07: 49
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          So he was given some hope of getting the islands.

          No. For the Japanese, "northern territories" are a fetish. Any prime minister who says that the islands are lost forever is a political corpse.
        2. 0
          4 January 2019 05: 11
          [quote = Krasnoyarsk] Politicians just do not scatter words
          Who are you talking about? Politicians who do not scatter words have completely disappeared in our time.
      3. +2
        3 January 2019 21: 08
        Dedicated to flirting V.V. Putin with Shinzo Abe!

        "Having betrayed once - more than once,
        Once having lied - he will lie and twice,
        Although the lie is not put on display,
        But everyone can not avoid it.

        Betrayal, swallowing bitter venom,
        Hopefully, it will not happen again,
        Not understanding, the one who is to blame,
        Betrayed yet, giving us a hundredfold.

        Treachery is trying to cover up,
        But do not hide what is obvious,
        And it is unlikely that the heart will be able to forget
        Actions for which we are ashamed.

        There is a lie for good sometimes,
        But more often the one that covers cowardice,
        Only, the truth, making their way through the years
        From the depth of lies outward creeps out.

        Betrayal in betrayal will die,
        And a lie about a lie will sometime be broken,
        And only the fate of the exposed account-
        You will have to pay for everything in full. "

        There are many examples and this is true: the surrender of land and water in northern Russia to Norway, the surrender and betrayal of the allies - Gaddafi ... and this is not the end list!
    2. +38
      2 January 2019 09: 50
      Well, thanks "Dear Father"

      When Japan joins the Kuril Federal District, Russia will not evict Japanese citizens from there.
      1. +12
        2 January 2019 10: 01
        Yeah, your words and ears in GDP! smile
        1. +18
          2 January 2019 10: 55
          Quote: Phil77
          Yeah, your words and ears in GDP! smile

          The President is not the last resort! There is a Constitutional Court, which, based on the Constitution of the Russian Federation, can cancel any decision / decree / law that contradicts the basic law.
          Yes, I did not hear that someone was going to give the Kuril Islands. And Klintsevich directly says:
          The question is much more fundamental: it is about the inviolability of the Russian borders and Russia's security in the broadest terms

          I doubt that the peace treaty with Japan is more important than the fundamental principles of the state system of the Russian Federation - Russia.
          1. +7
            2 January 2019 11: 07
            Quote: в - vendetta
            Quote: Phil77
            Yeah, your words and ears in GDP! smile

            The President is not the last resort! There is a Constitutional Court, which, based on the Constitution of the Russian Federation, can cancel any decision / decree / law that contradicts the basic law.
            Yes, I did not hear that someone was going to give the Kuril Islands. And Klintsevich directly says:
            The question is much more fundamental: it is about the inviolability of the Russian borders and Russia's security in the broadest terms

            I doubt that the peace treaty with Japan is more important than the fundamental principles of the state system of the Russian Federation - Russia.

            And where is the repeal of the law on raising the retirement age?
            1. 0
              2 January 2019 11: 18
              What is one point where the constitution of the Russian Federation is violated in the new decree on raising the retirement age?
              1. -2
                2 January 2019 11: 24
                Quote: Leonid60
                What is one point where the constitution of the Russian Federation is violated in the new decree on raising the retirement age?

                Google yourself. Everything is online.
                In my article 55.
                1. +5
                  2 January 2019 11: 33
                  In Google there is, what articles are violated by the Constitution of the Russian Federation in the DECREE ON INCREASING PENSION AGE? So I’ll answer you without Google: In the Russian Federation there is an article on the right of citizens to retire. But there is not a single word about the age in the constitution! Age is regulated by the DECREE (!) By the Government ..... Therefore, this DECREE does not violate a single CONSTITUTION of the Russian Federation !!!!!
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                    1. +1
                      2 January 2019 11: 57
                      Excuse me, sir, but where in the DECISION FOR INCREASING PENSION AGE HUMAN RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS AND CITIZENS ARE CANCELED? Are you a nice person, have you messed up something? You substitute concepts, and get confused in the Articles of the Constitution with the GOVERNMENT ORDER !!!! Constitutions are required to hold a REFERENDUM !!! AND GOVERNMENT DECISIONS The opinion of the People is not necessary! Sorry, I don’t think that you are not legally literate, but learn exactly the advice MATCH .....
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                      2. -3
                        2 January 2019 12: 15
                        Quote: Datskiy
                        But does retirement 5 and 8 years later not diminish a citizen’s right to a well-deserved rest?

                        But does the 55/60 retirement law not detract from my legal right to work?
                      3. +10
                        2 January 2019 12: 19
                        Quote: Felix
                        Quote: Datskiy
                        But does retirement 5 and 8 years later not diminish a citizen’s right to a well-deserved rest?

                        But does the 55/60 retirement law not detract from my legal right to work?

                        Have you decided to troll?
                        To get started, read the law.
                      4. +1
                        2 January 2019 12: 31
                        And in the law, everything is sad laughing Who will be kicked out of retirement from January XNUMX, so it's a jurisdiction. laughing
                        But who are they. reads the laws. smile
                      5. +4
                        2 January 2019 13: 00
                        What to read? In 60 years you will be kicked out, even if you want to work, refusal to leave leads to loss of payments on exit.
                      6. 0
                        2 January 2019 14: 28
                        Quote: Datskiy
                        To get started, read the law.

                        I read it. And what is shaking you there?
                      7. +2
                        2 January 2019 14: 42
                        Quote: Felix
                        Quote: Datskiy
                        To get started, read the law.

                        I read it. And what is shaking you there?

                        Are you retired? Or a military man?
                        At 45 retired, and let the rest work?
                      8. -8
                        2 January 2019 17: 08
                        Quote: Datskiy
                        At 45 retired, and let the rest work?

                        I am a railwayman and will retire on a general basis.
                        And unlike you, I think those extra 5 years are not a burden, but given to me for years of a full life. With a good salary and good health.
                        And if you are more attracted to lying on the couch, coupled with a sense of uselessness to society at the age of 60, well, to each his own.
                      9. +6
                        2 January 2019 18: 31
                        Quote: Felix
                        And unlike you, I think those extra 5 years are not a burden, but given to me by years of a full life


                        Do you want to make God laugh? Share your plans with him
                      10. Alf
                        +2
                        2 January 2019 18: 41
                        Quote: Vadivak
                        Quote: Felix
                        And unlike you, I think those extra 5 years are not a burden, but given to me by years of a full life


                        Do you want to make God laugh? Share your plans with him

                        Yes, not 5 years. Even at the stage of the enthralling of the electorate, the Siluans stated — This increase is not the last.
                      11. -4
                        2 January 2019 18: 46
                        Quote: Vadivak
                        Do you want to make God laugh? Share your plans with him

                        Moreover, does it make sense to discuss a law that will not affect it at all?
                        Listen ... Are you seriously rejoicing at this opportunity to live up to retirement? To be thrown out of life just because a certain number of years have passed?
                      12. +1
                        2 January 2019 19: 22
                        Quote: Felix
                        Listen ... Here you are seriously rejoicing at this opportunity to live up to

                        I seriously hope to die earlier, to please the people elected
                      13. -2
                        2 January 2019 19: 25
                        Quote: Vadivak
                        I seriously hope to die earlier, to please the people elected

                        Your right. But what will you please them with? That taxes stop paying?
                        On the contrary, I designed 2 inherited pension programs, if I die, my children will take advantage.
                      14. 0
                        2 January 2019 19: 28
                        Quote: Felix
                        But what will you please them with? That taxes stop paying?

                        One mouth they less and pence taxes are not paid
                      15. -1
                        2 January 2019 19: 52
                        Quote: Vadivak
                        One mouth they less and pence taxes are not paid

                        And the fact that now you have to feed 5 more more fully able-bodied people does not bother you?
                      16. 0
                        2 January 2019 20: 00
                        Quote: Felix
                        And the fact that now you have to feed 5 more more fully able-bodied people does not bother you?


                        Where to read how the Kremlin is fighting the oligarchs?
                      17. -2
                        2 January 2019 20: 06
                        Quote: Vadivak
                        Where to read how the Kremlin is fighting the oligarchs?

                        You should first read who the oligarchs are.
                        Now I’ll ask you - if you have nothing to say on the case, you better not say anything.
                      18. 0
                        2 January 2019 20: 15
                        Quote: Felix
                        Now I’ll ask you - if you have nothing to say on the case, you better not say anything.

                        In your case, I have nothing to say
                      19. 0
                        2 January 2019 20: 41
                        Quote: Vadivak
                        In your case, I have nothing to say

                        Thank you.
                      20. +1
                        2 January 2019 19: 12
                        Quote: Felix
                        I am a railwayman

                        Judging by the comment, you translate arrows at work,
                        Quote: Felix
                        I’ll retire on a general basis.
                        And unlike you, I think those extra 5 years are not a burden, but given to me for years of a full life. With a good salary and good health.

                        Well, you still tell tales about how to live and work well without a pension.
                      21. -3
                        2 January 2019 19: 31
                        Quote: the most important
                        Judging by the comment, you translate arrows at work,

                        And that's none of your business.
                        If you have something to say in the case, say it. And if so, flood - I do not dare to delay you.
                      22. 0
                        2 January 2019 19: 53
                        Quote: Felix
                        I am a railwayman

                        Yah!?
                      23. 0
                        2 January 2019 19: 54
                        Quote: Karabin
                        Yah!?

                        There are doubts, my dear?
                      24. +4
                        2 January 2019 17: 20
                        Quote: Datskiy
                        Are you retired? Or a military man?
                        At 45 retired, and let the rest work?
                        Envy is not a good feeling. Go to army officers, at 45 you are guaranteed to lose your job, status, place of residence (you still need to get a new apartment) and start life at 45 again. You can’t feed your family on an officer pension and I don’t know a single military pensioner who wouldn’t work. Go ahead.
                      25. Alf
                        +1
                        2 January 2019 17: 36
                        Quote: Datskiy
                        Or a military man?
                        At 45 retired, and let the rest work?

                        It has already been said that the military and police will also be added a term, only a little later.
                      26. -1
                        2 January 2019 18: 32
                        Quote: Alf
                        Quote: Datskiy
                        Or a military man?
                        At 45 retired, and let the rest work?

                        and the police will also add a term.


                        What a beautiful word policeman, I immediately remember black overcoats and white bandages, but how did we manage to do this?
                      27. 0
                        2 January 2019 12: 59
                        Have you ever thought that the exit of one citizen belittles the rights of others?
                      28. +2
                        2 January 2019 13: 34
                        And in
                        Quote: EvilLion
                        And you did not think

                        And you? smile
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                      30. Alf
                        +2
                        2 January 2019 17: 39
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        There can simply be no confidence of Abe from the Russian Federation in this matter!

                        Trusting the Japanese is fraught, but what to take from him, he is trying for his country. But the wisest? How many times has he refused his words?
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                      32. +2
                        2 January 2019 23: 09
                        Well, you are also pericentric here, the basic concepts are unshakable in the constitution, so you can go to verbiage that a person in jail or a reservation is also free within the prison and the constitution about freedom is not violated and you can drive everyone into the reservation. citizens, then the law on raising the retirement age violates the constitution
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                  2. +4
                    2 January 2019 13: 53
                    Quote: Leonid60
                    There is an article in the Russian Federation on the right of citizens to retire. But there is not a single word about age in the constitution! Age is regulated by an ORDER (!) By the Government ..... Therefore, this ORDER DOES NOT VIOLATE a CONSTITUTION of the Russian Federation !!!!!

                    Oh, thank you, cute dude .... enlightened! So, everything is according to the law, the constitution ... but against the law, you can't trample! We will wait until, according to the constitutional law, the retirement age will be set at 80 years ... and then it remains to dream (survivors ...) to live up to 90 years ... suddenly a constitutional decree will be issued about this ... again, on "legal basis"!
                    1. 0
                      2 January 2019 18: 39
                      Quote: Nikolaevich I
                      We will wait until the retirement age of 80 is established by the law of the constitution ...

                      We will not. fool everyone and take a break earlier
                      1. Alf
                        +3
                        2 January 2019 19: 12
                        Quote: Vadivak
                        Quote: Nikolaevich I
                        We will wait until the retirement age of 80 is established by the law of the constitution ...

                        We will not. fool everyone and take a break earlier

                      2. +1
                        2 January 2019 19: 13
                        Damn ahead of the same
                  3. +5
                    2 January 2019 15: 58
                    Leonid60! In this constitution, which is not entirely friendly to the people, there is a provision that the actions of the authorities should not lead to a deterioration in the life of the people.
                    And this is exactly what this "our" government has been doing since the 80s to the present day.
                  4. +1
                    2 January 2019 19: 26
                    Quote: Leonid60
                    In Google there is, what articles are violated by the Constitution of the Russian Federation in the DECREE ON INCREASING PENSION AGE? So I’ll answer you without Google: In the Russian Federation there is an article on the right of citizens to retire. But there is not a single word about the age in the constitution! Age is regulated by the DECREE (!) By the Government ..... Therefore, this DECREE does not violate a single CONSTITUTION of the Russian Federation !!!!!

                    You sometimes, even before bedtime, read the Constitution. And then there are so many emotions, and all by the SPIRIT of the Constitution. Do you understand what I'm talking about? So: p.2 Art. 55 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation states that No laws should be enacted in the Russian Federation abolishing or derogating the rights and freedoms of man and citizen. Well, immediately paragraph 3 of the same article of the Constitution - Rights and freedoms of a person and a citizen can be limited by federal law only to the extent necessary to protect the foundations of the constitutional order, morality, health, rights and legitimate interests of others, ensure the country's defense and state security. . Not and where is the basis for raising the retirement age?
            2. -7
              2 January 2019 11: 29
              Well here again! And where is this age recorded in the constitution? And what is forbidden to raise it?
              1. Alf
                +1
                2 January 2019 17: 41
                Quote: K-612-O
                And where is this age recorded in the constitution? And what is forbidden to raise it?

                And where is it written in the constitution that this age can be raised?
            3. -1
              2 January 2019 16: 45
              And where is the repeal of the law on raising the retirement age?

              The first rule of fighters for everything good:
              In any incomprehensible situation, transfer the conversation to pension reform.
              The second rule of fighters for everything good:
              If the situation is clear, also transfer the conversation to pension reform.
              The third rule of fighters for all the good:
              It doesn’t matter if you read the regulatory document, in the newspapers everything is written like that. If it is not clear, see paragraph 1.
              1. +1
                2 January 2019 18: 39
                Quote: arhPavel
                In any incomprehensible situation, transfer the conversation to pension reform

                M. Thatcher: "On the territory of the USSR, the residence of 15 million people is economically justified"
          2. +12
            2 January 2019 11: 50
            П
            resident - not the last resort! There is a Constitutional Court, which, on the basis of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, can cancel any decision / decree / law contrary to the basic law
            [i] [/ i]

            Well, the triangle in the Bering Sea donated by Shevarnadze to mattresses with violation has already been returned ..
          3. +4
            2 January 2019 19: 00
            Quote: Ⅴ - vendetta
            The President is not the last resort! There is a Constitutional Court, which, based on the Constitution of the Russian Federation, can cancel any decision / decree / law that contradicts the basic law.
            Yes, I did not hear that someone was going to give the Kuril Islands.

            Isn’t it funny for you to write about an independent Constitutional Court? What decision of the government did he cancel? Do we even have an independent court? I've never met. Do not believe? Go to court and sue there with any authority. And everything will become clear to you right away. Why negotiate if there is no intention of transferring the islands? Does this bother you? You don’t want to sell your apartment and, accordingly, don’t talk about it. And if there’s a conversation, it means that there are already intentions, and everything depends only on the size of the price and the conditions of the exit from the apartment.
        2. +12
          2 January 2019 11: 08
          Quote: Phil77
          Yeah, your words and ears in GDP! smile

          Better not
          After the pension reform, everything can be expected from him.
          1. +5
            2 January 2019 11: 10
            Well, something like that, the king gave the word, the king again returned the word. Something like that! It turns out.
            1. +2
              2 January 2019 11: 14
              Quote: Phil77
              Well, something like that, the king gave the word, the king again returned the word. Something like that! It turns out.

              Something like that.
          2. +3
            2 January 2019 15: 56
            Quote: Datskiy
            After the pension reform, everything can be expected from him.

            After Kursk and Nord Ost.
      2. +3
        2 January 2019 12: 51
        Then, for five years, we undertake not to change the Toyota brand name to Lada.
      3. 0
        2 January 2019 12: 55
        Quote: tractor driver
        Russia will not expel Japanese citizens from there.

        But this is in vain- Let them fall overseas together with the Yankees- otherwise then you will have to prove that they joined them, and not they joined us
      4. 0
        2 January 2019 15: 59
        And Shinzo Abe will make the governor of this district ... everything as he wanted for the new year.
      5. 0
        3 January 2019 17: 03
        Quote: tractor driver
        Well, thanks "Dear Father"

        When Japan joins the Kuril Federal District, Russia will not evict Japanese citizens from there.

        The humor of our friends.
    3. +19
      2 January 2019 11: 06
      1956, the tragedy on Damansky, the Caribbean crisis ... - I do not say anything about the Crimea, but even in foreign policy Khrushchev has spoiled so much that until now all of his political legacy weighs heavily on Russia’s neck! I am surprised that there are people who do not understand this and sing praises to Nikita Sergeevich? As for Abe - the island, this is his political baggage, if he does not constantly tryndy about their return, he will be dismissed tomorrow, and the brave samurai-nationalists will be forced to make hara-kiri for not justifying expectations! laughing
      1. +3
        2 January 2019 14: 42
        Quote: Finches
        I am surprised that there are people who do not understand this and sing praises to Nikita Sergeevich? As for Abe - the island, this is his political baggage,

        ---------------------------
        The notorious Declaration of 1956, Nikita Sergeyevich wanted to solve the problem of demilitarization of Japan by diplomatic attack, or rather to remove American bases from Okinawa and other Japanese territories. It was this that caused the transfer of the islands, but since Japan was not able to liquidate American bases, in fact, everyone remained at their own. All. The Declaration does not oblige anyone to anything. In addition, the transfer of the islands seriously violates previous agreements, namely, it will be necessary to re-sign all the documents that ended the Second World War. By the way, it is the United States that we owe to the territorial acquisition of what was lost by the tsarist government following the results of the Russo-Japanese war.
        Now on the "non-eviction of Russians." We all know about the "non-resettlement of the Chinese", the "non-resettlement of the Koreans" by the Japanese invaders. Therefore, Abe's words are zilch, steam in the whistle.
        1. +1
          2 January 2019 14: 50
          Doo ... he was, I’m sorry, Nikita Sergeevich, and sly. But what is really harmful is that he was very active ... D - Fidget! That's the whole story! About what you just wrote, I hardly even guessed that way to interpret Nikita Sergeevich ... laughing hi
          1. +1
            2 January 2019 16: 33
            Quote: Finches
            About what you just wrote, I hardly even guessed that way to interpret Nikita Sergeevich ...

            ----------------------
            In the sense? Any diplomatic tasks are being worked out at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, as it was being worked out in the way I presented it to you.
            1. +2
              2 January 2019 16: 40
              It’s true that they are being worked out, but Khrushchev would hardly have listened to sensible elaborations, but acted exclusively to the best of his understanding of situations!
              Let's not argue about the role of Mikita in the history of our country - his comrades-in-arms were removed with the wording "for voluntarism"! So here is the 1956 agreement, this is one of the voluntaristic foreign policy decisions of the corn-grower, which contemporaries will now have to decide. You will not deny that the fate of the Shikotan Island and the Habomai Islands was an important aspect of the Declaration: they were to be transferred to Japan after the signing of the peace treaty? And you have to reckon with this! Yes! Then it did not grow together, but the sediment remained. And the times and opportunities of our state are already different, not comparable with the status of the USSR in 1956, and clearly far from in favor of the status of Russia today. hi
              1. +3
                2 January 2019 16: 54
                Quote: Finches
                So here’s the 1956 treaty, this is one of the foreign policy voluntarist decisions of the maize

                -----------------------
                Not a contract, but a declaration. The declaration is simply a dry maxim of the subject of negotiations, it does not oblige anyone to anything. The declaration simply proclaims that some subject or subject was being discussed. The treaty was to be the Peace Treaty. And the Declaration as the Memorandum is non-binding documents.
                Regarding "voluntaristic foreign policy decisions," Nikita Sergeevich trusted such questions to Stalin's master Anastas Mikoyan, who skillfully resolved crises with Kennedy and Mao. Of course, Nikita Sergeevich mowed a lot, but nevertheless he saved the situation as best he could.
                1. +1
                  2 January 2019 16: 57
                  Declaration, declaration ... God be with her. He saved her so much that the collapse of the USSR began precisely with his "genius" rule! But that is another story. In this matter, I think, as I wrote, you think differently. How it really was, no one knows anymore ... hi
          2. 0
            2 January 2019 18: 43
            Quote: Finches
            Doo ... he was, I’m sorry, Nikita Sergeevich, and sly.

            Him in the sanatorium of the President’s Office of President. Aivazovsky monument made of bronze cast. Taruta tried
      2. +2
        2 January 2019 16: 03
        Quote: Finches
        As for Abe - the island, this is his political baggage, if he does not constantly tryndy about their return, he will be poisoned by resignation tomorrow, and the brave nationalist samurai will also be forced to make hara-kiri for not justifying expectations!

        As for our sun-faced one, who almost completely resembled Abe by the cut of his eyes, then if he (his entourage) does not constantly try to make a joke about their Non-Return, while the opposite happens slowly behind our backs, then he will be poisoned by resignation tomorrow far away, without even giving the opportunity to make hara-kiri.
        1. -2
          2 January 2019 16: 07
          You, apparently, have more information about the actions of the President and his entourage in this matter than I, therefore, I will not argue, but personally, I evaluate all foreign policy activities, as you put it, of Solntseky, as part of his competence and understanding of the processes that take place, on solid 4! hi
          1. +1
            2 January 2019 18: 54
            Quote: Finches
            You, apparently, have more information about the actions of the President and his entourage in this matter.

            And really, your truth, Abu already promises not to evict the Russians, but silence in return .....
            1. 0
              2 January 2019 19: 06
              Offers a gasp on Tokyo Caliber?

              Here is a link to an article from VO that would not go far: https://topwar.ru/97837-na-kunashire-i-iturupe-vozvodyatsya-novye-voennye-obekty.html
              You apparently missed it, why do you have to officially answer something, you need to do things, and not to indulge in social networks - we are not Central Europe! laughing hi
              1. 0
                2 January 2019 19: 16
                Quote: Finches
                Offers a gasp on Tokyo Caliber?


                Why in Tokyo? In Voronezh, for example, you can
                1. 0
                  2 January 2019 19: 19
                  Like in a joke - "Ours are not there" Have you followed the links? What do you think? Or fake, as it is fashionable to say now? Vadim, I will discuss with you, but Svetlana did not impose a dialogue on this matter: apparently she is a woman, and it is absolutely useless to argue with a woman on strategic issues of the state's foreign policy, as well as in the matter of cooking borscht ... laughing hi
                  1. 0
                    2 January 2019 19: 30
                    Quote: Finches
                    Like in a joke - "Ours are not there"

                    Exactly. smile
        2. 0
          2 January 2019 18: 45
          Quote: Svetlana
          quite like Abe with an open eye that has become like

          Botex?
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      4. 0
        2 January 2019 17: 29
        Quote: Finches
        1956, the tragedy on Damansky, the Caribbean crisis ... - I do not say anything about Crimea
        Damansky - February 1969. Khrushchev removed from power in 1963.
        1. 0
          2 January 2019 17: 34
          I do not argue! But after all, it was Khrushchev who quarreled with Mao in the trash, burying good-neighborly relations with China, thereby laying down the basic premises of an armed border conflict! hi
    4. +6
      2 January 2019 12: 16
      And Abo is not going to roll his lips, he behaves impudently, not otherwise he received carte blanche. It's time to create a "Popular Front for the Salvation of the Kuril Islands".
    5. 0
      2 January 2019 14: 54
      Quote: Irek
      Well, thanks to "Dear Father", just roll up your little lips and forget about the islands.

      ==========
      Yes, this is not a "sponger" needed, but ROSGI!!! Better yet - Nagayka Cossack will do !!! And then you see "benefactor" "drew": promises "NOT to evict" Russian - from the RUSSIAN islands !!!
      Oh! It is not enough to see "kosoryly" (quote Stepanov "Port Arthur") in the 45th "piled" !!!!
  2. +17
    2 January 2019 09: 28
    Yeah, I already decided everything. Hook is cunning!
    Go take away the "southern territories" from the Americans better. And forget about the northern ones
    1. 0
      2 January 2019 09: 46
      Quote: Cottodraton
      Hooke

      Are you trying to insult Abe, or vice versa? laughing
      "Hook" - in your understanding who is this? laughing
      1. +1
        2 January 2019 10: 02
        Hmm ... Guk - that is how the "beloved Americans" called the Vietnamese partisans, or is there another "deepest" meaning? laughing
        Abe - Hook. Hitrozady. Yeah. Offended, like. Yeah. laughing
        From the point of view of the American, they have offended? laughing
      2. +4
        2 January 2019 12: 18
        You are young and you don’t remember Vietnam, therefore you don’t know who the Gukas are.
        1. +2
          2 January 2019 12: 35
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Hook is cunning!

          Not. and what is wrong there? The boy heard the word bad. To the cinema. In American. laughing
      3. -1
        2 January 2019 12: 56
        What do you care? Can you relative Abe or what?
        1. +3
          2 January 2019 13: 15
          For me personally, the word "gook" is offensive.
          1. -1
            2 January 2019 14: 52
            Considering how the Vietnamese themselves are actively podmahivali mattress - nothing offensive in the word "Guk" I do not see.
  3. +13
    2 January 2019 09: 28
    Well, thank you, noble you are our samurai.
    As a response courtesy, I promise that I will not demand to evict you with a family from Japan.
    1. +10
      2 January 2019 09: 33
      Join us! hiA hole to you from a bagel, not the Kuril Islands!
      1. +32
        2 January 2019 09: 53
        Quote: GKS 2111
        I am joining! A hole to you from a bagel, not the Kuril Islands!

        I will not exaggerate this topic, but it is worth remembering that "While I am in power, the retirement age will not be raised" (not literally)))) So let's wait and see how this whole farce will end. This whole political company began to strain me as statements of our deputies, mayors, and so on. So is Japan and China. Wouldn't merge us.
        1. +18
          2 January 2019 10: 05
          Quote: Sirocco
          I will not exaggerate this topic, but it is worth remembering that "While I am in power, the retirement age will not be raised" (not literally)))) So let's wait and see how this whole farce will end.

          Exactly ... and Peskov somehow does not comment, not to mention Putin and Lavrov. The head of another state discusses openly what he will do with our population request
          1. +18
            2 January 2019 10: 28
            Quote: Stirbjorn
            . The head of another state discusses openly what he will do with our population

            This is alarming, to put it mildly, Abe’s statement is tantamount to Putin’s claiming that Hokkaido will come under the jurisdiction of the Russian Federation and residents may remain. What would be the reaction from the Japanese Foreign Ministry and the world community? The same, a squeal would stand piggy. And ours silently got off, did not even bother. Well, the most disgusting thing that I saw this morning on Russia 24, is a fragment of the program where Mamontov showed the Russian couple with the Chinese, and all the pros and cons of this marriage, they say they all had a bunch, and we have. This again reminded me of the Overton window, slowly through the media we are being accustomed to the fact that China is our brother forever, and in the worst sense for us they will merge us. This program of this genre is not the first, I see the second time. If we approach this problem more seriously, then with such an approach, China will not have to fight the Russian Federation in the Far East, such couples will give birth to children of China living in Russia and will be Chinese by blood, who will fight with whom? nobody assimilation gentlemen. It somehow becomes alarming gentlemen after the frank lies of our drivers hands. There are already such couples in Buryatia, the husband lives in China, and this year arrived for the new year, went to the kindergarten for a child's morning party, so the beginning has been made. And our Foreign Ministry is silent, why would anyone have any versions?
            1. -6
              2 January 2019 11: 36
              You are the percentage of Chinese in the Far East look! There damn Koreans 10 times more. They border areas then can not populate. A citizen of China will not be able to become a citizen of the Russian Federation, as well as a turnover. Tired of these stuffing with the Chinese capture of Siberia and the Far East, they have been yelling since the 70s, and mainly because of puddles and LondonA. And we have useful ones underway.
              1. +6
                2 January 2019 12: 16
                You are the percentage of Chinese in the Far East look! Oh, oh))) we and representatives of the Central Asian republics have a lot, and it is they and not the Slavs brothers who get citizenship. Why? And who is to blame for this state of affairs? The bureaucracy with the so-called elite in power.
              2. +2
                2 January 2019 12: 22
                Giving Russian citizenship to Koreans is not scary, there are few of them, but if you give it to the Chinese, then Russia will come "kyrdik", in 20 years we will learn the Chinese language.
                1. +1
                  2 January 2019 17: 42
                  Quote: tihonmarine
                  Giving Russian citizenship to Koreans is not scary, there are few of them, but if you give it to the Chinese, then Russia will come "kyrdik", in 20 years we will learn the Chinese language.

                  There are 25,5 million people in the DPRK, and 52 million people in South Korea. Mizer, not at all scary.
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            2. +6
              2 January 2019 11: 54
              There is a presentiment that the issue with the Kurils is simply an ongoing bargaining or agreeing on a beautiful gift wrapping for our, for now, the islands, otherwise why waste time on la-la, categorically and unequivocally not indicating to the samurai his place appointed by Stalin. Is it really "... everything is for sale, it's just that everyone has a price ...", as the main character of the Santa Barbara series once put it?
        2. +6
          2 January 2019 10: 06
          Comrade! You are not alone! There are many of us, but we are, as it were, lonely. This is absolutely what the current government is doing to set people against it!
          1. +2
            2 January 2019 10: 07
            Quote: Phil77
            Comrade! You are not alone! There are many of us, but we are, as it were, lonely. This is absolutely what the current government is doing to set people against it!

            Does the government write such articles? belay
            Come on you. laughing
            1. 0
              2 January 2019 10: 09
              But patience, okay? The prime minister just blundered? Well, well ?!
              1. +1
                2 January 2019 10: 12
                Quote: Phil77
                But patience, okay? The prime minister just blundered? Well, well ?!

                Wait and see, right? smile
              2. 0
                2 January 2019 10: 40
                Quote: Phil77
                The prime minister just blundered? Well, well ?!

                What he blundered there, your sect still can not wait, when Putin will transfer the island. Do not wait.
                Seven years since Sait exists, such as you screaming loudly that Putin will give up the islands of Japan.
                This is already a disease
                1. +5
                  2 January 2019 11: 04
                  Alexander! Well, God forbid, the soul of a mother sect? Though they thought for themselves, eh? I’m sorry, I was born, I live in my homeland! And my homeland is Russia !!!! Here is my answer. And the government has criticized and will criticize! Because what they need to think not about themselves, but about us and you !!! Is it clear ?!
                  1. +4
                    2 January 2019 11: 22
                    Quote: Phil77
                    But the government criticized and will criticize! Because they need to think not about themselves, but about us and you !!! Is it clear ?!

                    Clear. You "give the land to the peasants in Grenada" - you need? smile
                    Stop it - "Trotsky is bad, Trotsky is a shaman. Black shaman." (c) Poigin - to replace with Trotsky .. And the film is not so bad. Soviet. laughing
                  2. -7
                    2 January 2019 11: 40
                    Criticize on your health, no one forbids you! But to provoke the PEOPLE TO REVOLUTION, this is vile on your part !!!
                    1. +3
                      2 January 2019 12: 05
                      Yes, no one is provoking anyone. Exchange of opinions among pensioners. Only. feel
                      Quote: Leonid60
                      rhetoric about your health, no one forbids you! But to provoke the PEOPLE TO REVOLUTION, this is mean-spirited of you !!!
                      1. +1
                        2 January 2019 12: 16
                        Oh, and not even pensioners! We were slightly pushed, personally, by * ten *. Norm, do you think ?!
                    2. +3
                      2 January 2019 12: 12
                      No, really?! And to provoke your people with your (I emphasize) actions is something in your concepts, the norm?!?! Yes?
                      1. 0
                        2 January 2019 12: 41
                        Quote: Phil77
                        No, really?! And to provoke your people with your (I emphasize) actions is something in your concepts, the norm?!?! Yes?

                        In my concept ... The state is trying to save itself. smile And you. And me. But at the same time, it’s not about me. Neither thinks about you. smile
                      2. +1
                        2 January 2019 19: 18
                        Quote: tanit
                        . The state is trying to save itself.

                        Siluanov, for example, with a salary of 2 Lyama of the State Duma with a pension of 200 tyrov
                    3. +5
                      2 January 2019 12: 29
                      Revolution is the highest manifestation of the will of the people against total injustice.
                      1. 0
                        2 January 2019 12: 39
                        Quote: kjhg
                        Revolution is the highest manifestation of the will of the people against total injustice.

                        Really? In Libya - what was there? smile
                        But counterrevolution is what? smile
                  3. -5
                    2 January 2019 12: 38
                    Quote: Phil77
                    .A government criticized and will criticize

                    Criticize the case, and with the islands what criticism? Someone gives them to someone ?????????
                    1. +7
                      2 January 2019 13: 39
                      when they give it back, it will be.
                2. +1
                  2 January 2019 11: 15
                  And even more so, I didn’t poke you! Well, I didn’t drink at the Brudershaft, Wright ?!
            2. +5
              2 January 2019 10: 28
              Quote: tanit
              Does the government write such articles?

              Do you propose to stand in the pose of the same textbook macaque that does not see anything, does not hear anything, does not know anything, does not say anything?
              1. -2
                2 January 2019 10: 35
                Quote: Mordvin 3
                Do you propose to stand in the pose of the same textbook macaque that does not see anything, does not hear anything, does not know anything, does not say anything?

                By no means. laughing
                Are you a more charismatic primate? Inside my head - "I know everything, I hear everything, I will say everything about it" ... laughing
                Do not be offended. hi
                1. +2
                  2 January 2019 10: 40
                  Quote: tanit
                  Do not be offended.

                  What is in our reality is not entirely joyful. Why invent something that is not? smile
                2. +7
                  2 January 2019 10: 50
                  Quote: tanit
                  Are you a more charismatic primate? Inside my head - "I know everything, I hear everything, I will say everything about it" ...
                  Do not be offended.

                  The silence policy is really tired. I’m not offended.

                  And Abe would respond to this as Stalin replied in an interview.
                  31. Question: How does your government view the occupation of Japan? Do you consider it successful on an existing basis?

                  Answer. There are successes, but one could achieve better successes.
                  Interview with Stalin Hugh Bailey, 1946 year.
                  1. +3
                    2 January 2019 11: 07
                    "And this Abe would answer as Stalin answered in an interview."
                    Oh. and then your quote? And did you quote Joseph Vissarionovich? laughing
                    Do not you find anything familiar in the quote, no? smile
                    With respect.
                    1. -1
                      2 January 2019 11: 15
                      Quote: tanit
                      And did you quote Joseph Vissarionovich?

                      It is him.
                      https://aftershock.news/?q=node/501739&full
                      Why should I find there? Familiar? How did Solzhenitsyn advise Yeltsin to give the Kuriles? And after all, they almost gave away in the middle of the 90's.
                      1. +1
                        2 January 2019 11: 18
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        And after all, it was almost given away in the mid-90s.

                        They almost gave it back - even under Joseph Vissarionovich. laughing
                      2. +1
                        2 January 2019 11: 23
                        Quote: tanit
                        They almost gave it back - even under Joseph Vissarionovich.

                        Do not remind me when, and under what circumstances did this happen?
                      3. -1
                        2 January 2019 11: 29
                        Quote: tanit
                        As Solzhenitsyn advised

                        How did Leo Tolstoy write-read? At least - "Sevastopol Stories"?
                        Recommend. hi
                        Then - "War and Peace". Reread if you haven't.
                        Sad.
                      4. +1
                        2 January 2019 11: 50
                        Quote: tanit
                        How did Leo Tolstoy write-read? At least - "Sevastopol Stories"?

                        Was reading.
                        Quote: tanit
                        "War and Peace". Reread if you haven't.
                        Sad.

                        Yes, in 9 years I read. But you didn’t tell me when under Stalin you wanted to give the Kuril Islands to Japan. If you mean the agreement of the 56 year, then Stalin has already been three years old, as he was not alive.
                      5. +3
                        2 January 2019 12: 10
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        then Stalin has been alive for three years.

                        Right. Well, you can when you want. smile
                        Well, and continue on.
                        When did the USSR send this "misunderstanding from 1956" to "0"? hi
                        And again, don't be offended. hi We argue, and are not busy with "membership"?
                        There was still one decision ... Suggest? hi
                      6. -1
                        2 January 2019 12: 13
                        Quote: tanit
                        Suggest?

                        Yes, if not difficult. You need to know the history of your country. Yes
                      7. +1
                        2 January 2019 12: 19
                        "For example, on January 1, 1968, many Japanese newspapers published an interview with the Chairman of the Council of Ministers of the USSR Alexei Nikolaevich Kosygin to the largest Japanese news agency Kyodo Tsushin. This interview was mainly devoted to the prospects for the development of Soviet-Japanese relations. A number of questions posed to the Soviet Prime Minister by a Japanese journalist were devoted to the territorial problem. In response to them AN Kosygin said that "the territorial issue has been finally resolved."
                        Do you find the text yourself? smile
                      8. +1
                        2 January 2019 12: 21
                        "On January 27, 1960, the USSR announced that since this agreement is directed against the USSR and the PRC, the Soviet government refuses to consider transferring the islands to Japan, as this will lead to an expansion of the territory used by American troops."
                        And again, yourself? smile
                      9. 0
                        2 January 2019 12: 39
                        Quote: tanit
                        AN Kosygin said that "the territorial issue has been finally resolved." "

                        Quote: tanit
                        Do you find the text yourself?

                        Found. I read it. Well, what does Stalin have to do with it? Why are you giving me the politicians of the Khrushch period, or dear Leonid Ilyich? We tried to negotiate, yes. Only Mister "No" said a firm "no". But, for example, in the mid-90s, Japan offered each resident of the Kuril Islands either citizenship or 50 thousand dollars to move, and the issue was considered almost settled. I remember reading it in the media, and I thought that it was lucky for them. In those days, such babosy could buy a dozen single-family apartments. In a small town like mine, with a hundred and twenty thousand inhabitants. This is the question of buns.
                      10. +1
                        2 January 2019 13: 21
                        [/ quote] [quote = Mordvin 3] Well, what does Stalin have to do with it? Why are you giving me the politicians of the Khrushchev period, or dear Leonid Ilyich? We tried to negotiate, yes.

                        Am I slipping? Come on you. smile
                        "You need to know the history of your country." Your words?
                        hi With respect.
                      11. 0
                        2 January 2019 13: 22
                        Khrushchev and dear Leonid Ilyich - The history of some other country? smile
                        And again, with respect. hi
                      12. 0
                        2 January 2019 13: 47
                        Quote: tanit
                        Am I slipping? Come on you.
                        "You need to know the history of your country." Your words?
                        With respect.

                        My-mine. Only I thought that you would give me a new info on Stalin, but no. And I heard about these negotiations under both Khrushchev and Brezhnev. By the way, my dad was fishing in the Sea of ​​Okhotsk in the middle of the 70's, saying that sometimes they and the Japanese fishermen came to shootings. From rocket launchers shot at each other. hi Okay, I'll go and have lunch for now.
                        Quote: tanit
                        The history of some other country?
                        And again, with respect.

                        Our, ours. hi
                      13. +2
                        2 January 2019 14: 25
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        the issue was considered almost resolved

                        The liberal corps in Russia is extremely strong. Moreover, a large part of the current dominant "pro-Putinists" are latent liberals. So, that is still ahead.

                        And Abe (unless he prolongs his term) will have to make himself hara-kiri - he promised to complete his father’s business ...
                  2. +3
                    2 January 2019 11: 42
                    Interview after the Americans threw IVS from Hokaido! Oh well. Nobody will give away any islands! The same declaration said that the transfer is possible, in the complete absence of American troops in Japan.
                    1. +2
                      2 January 2019 14: 17
                      What does it have to do with mentioning the declaration in vain? That declaration was more like an agreement of intent, in "modern" language. And Japan then refused! And to "no" and there is no trial! 1956 and 2019 Feel the Difference! In 56, the Kuriles were our "conditionally" for 10 years, for in the conditions of the then post-war devastation was not up to the islands ... and before that, 40 (!) years old-Japanese ... Now, already 75 (!) years old, the islands are Russian. In this damn business, one has only to "start" (as a certain "sec" liked to say) and, in the end, you will lose everything! Because and now a line of people is already "lining up" to grab a "piece" of Russia: Japan, China, Germany, Poland, Ukraine ...
                  3. +1
                    2 January 2019 16: 23
                    Quote: Mordvin 3
                    There are successes, but one could achieve better successes.
                    good
                    Stalin in a coffin turns over from what they are doing with the country.
            3. +1
              2 January 2019 10: 36
              Quote: tanit
              Does the government write such articles?
              Come on you.

              The authorities are silent, despite the fact that Abe’s position was not expressed yesterday. Or does the government don’t know what they are writing and talking about both it and the Russian Federation as a whole? I will disappoint you that each resource has its contingent employees, and I think that there are such employees in VO, therefore, as I said more carefully with statements to the authorities, they will calculate quickly. moreover, the law pushes to hold accountable for insulting the powerful. So do not worry, they all know.
              PS
              In the former Soviet years, there was a peasant who was familiar, under the glass of tea while washing some purchases, he inadvertently showed Xivu a non-standard police officer. Then it was, now even more so)))))) Everyone knows everything.
              1. +1
                2 January 2019 11: 08
                Quote: Sirocco
                Xiwu Freelance Police Officer

                Truth? Wai, about me or what? Want to insult? laughing
                In the Baltic States you, master, must. feel
                1. 0
                  2 January 2019 12: 08
                  Truth? Wai, about me or what? Want to insult? I didn’t even think about you and your second job)))) but as they say you surrendered yourself? Is the hat on the thief or something? As a rule, you can calculate such a person in everyday life, but I don’t know how on the Internet, except that I myself slept like you? laughing Take these things and people more seriously! You better tell me what you think about the silence of the Russian Foreign Ministry on the statement of Abe? Romanov did not seem to be stupid, but only said about 7 years, you say what.
                  1. -1
                    2 January 2019 12: 48
                    Quote: Sirocco
                    Is the hat on the thief or something?

                    Well, are you trying to insult me? laughing
                    Barin - to the Baltic states. laughing
                    Romanov, who is it?
                    I believe - Roman "Banshee". There is reason to believe. There is my personal opinion - sometimes I disagree with the Banshee's opinion. (But this is my personal opinion.) smile
                    What are you talking about? belay
                    1. -1
                      2 January 2019 12: 49
                      Ah .. About Alexander Romanov?
                      Ahem .. And what is he wrong about?
                      1. -4
                        2 January 2019 12: 52
                        Quote: tanit
                        ..About Alexander Romanov?

                        I'll answer myself, for starters.
                        And he, Alexander Romanov, is right. Moreover, almost always. hi
                        Bring him wrong?
                      2. +3
                        2 January 2019 13: 16
                        And he, Alexander Romanov, is right. Moreover, almost always. hi. You would have lost momentum, otherwise I remember, I don’t remember who Romanov is,))))) you’ve decided that you don’t remember)))) and who you remember, otherwise the Banshee’s sect is now ugly created by Romanov in the gods erected)))) Well, whoever is right or not will judge us time, and people but not you, everyone is wrong, only the one who does nothing !!!
                      3. 0
                        2 January 2019 13: 39
                        Quote: Sirocco
                        And he, Alexander Romanov, is right. Moreover, almost always. hi. You would have lost momentum, otherwise I remember, I don’t remember who Romanov is,))))) you’ve decided that you don’t remember)))) and who you remember, otherwise the Banshee’s sect is now ugly created by Romanov in the gods erected)))) Well, whoever is right or not will judge us time, and people but not you, everyone is wrong, only the one who does nothing !!!

                        Ahem ... And ... of these Templars are we? Or are those against us? laughing
                      4. 0
                        2 January 2019 13: 54
                        Wow what controversy wassat Guys, what are you sharing? Kunashir and Shikotan to me .if what winked
        3. +7
          2 January 2019 11: 05
          Quote: Sirocco
          They wouldn’t merge us.


          people leaked on December 31, 1991, and now only the consequences of this. They throw another idea and see how people will react to it.
          We can assume that we are living in a period of "walking in the desert" during which a generation of the people must die, remembering what a welfare state looks like and its care, social guarantees for citizens and justice.
          1. 0
            2 January 2019 12: 09
            Not in the eyebrow but in the eye!
      2. 0
        2 January 2019 18: 48
        Quote: GKS 2111
        A hole to you from a bagel, not the Kuril Islands!

        Remember these simple but proud words.
  4. +4
    2 January 2019 09: 30
    Well, what can I say here? -Insolent, in kind !!!
  5. +3
    2 January 2019 09: 31
    Abe is not Zhirinovsky, he says that he knows. Otherwise, his political opponents would have "eaten" him.
  6. +10
    2 January 2019 09: 32
    As already the yapps got their mantra "return the Kuriles" !!!! laughing
    And they also promise "not to evict." fellow laughing
    Who will let you go there? fool
    They can’t scratch their territory from under the bases of pin dos, but they’re already yawning at someone else’s havalnik !!!
    After all, choke so, to death !!! Yes angry
  7. +4
    2 January 2019 09: 32
    but he can’t promise that there will be no American bases ... no, we in Russia are of course very naive, but not to the same extent as this shame of the samurai thinks ...
  8. +5
    2 January 2019 09: 33
    it seems like lip-sewing machines appeared on sale what
    1. +4
      2 January 2019 09: 49
      Quote: iza top
      it seems like lip-sewing machines appeared on sale what

      Can lips and curlers to wind. good laughing
    2. +5
      2 January 2019 09: 50
      Personally
      Abe, as well as a large party to Ukraine and their owners. laughing
  9. +3
    2 January 2019 09: 33
    Impudent yaponoabe, in a cunning, red face to him!
    1. -2
      2 January 2019 10: 34
      And is he also red-haired ?! Well then, yes, Chubais-his name!
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    1. 0
      2 January 2019 09: 40
      Quote: Mouse
      just this....

      Them, Japanese, and the temple. That is, in principle, all Shintoists are ready to answer already ahead of time. laughing
  11. +9
    2 January 2019 09: 36
    It’s good, and then we won’t evict the Japanese and Hokkaido, we’ll just teach the Russian language, sing our songs, and dance to the ballet dance of Kadril and Kamarensky with the bears. good lol
    1. +3
      2 January 2019 09: 41
      Quote: ANCIENT
      under the balalaika Quadrille

      Ahem ... Forgotten art, however. laughing
    2. +4
      2 January 2019 09: 44
      Quote: ANCIENT
      just teach the Russian language,

      Great, powerful obscene? I think they already know ... laughing
      1. 0
        2 January 2019 10: 51
        Yeah ... Taught on my own head ... Tourists damn it ...
  12. +9
    2 January 2019 09: 37
    I recommend watching the movie "The Man Behind the Sun". To make it clearer with whom we are dealing.
    Islands to them ... But they do not want to catch the encephalitis tick, which they have bred, throughout the taiga?
    1. +2
      2 January 2019 10: 02
      Dimas, thanks! Already started to watch.
      Masyuk also shot a documentary about 731. Tin, of course.
  13. +7
    2 January 2019 09: 38
    And no need to evict!
    1. +1
      2 January 2019 10: 06
      Filming from which year?
      1. -1
        2 January 2019 10: 11
        2016 like, downloaded then
        1. -2
          2 January 2019 10: 13
          And you pass off as fresh?
          1. +7
            2 January 2019 10: 29
            And do you know what is not fresh? The times of the USSR when such towns flourished, people were needed.
            Under the collapse of the USSR, 30 lived there and now 000, more than 20 years have passed "stability". Here's a fresh look in the form of the Russian Federation. No need to evict, the young will leave, people of the Soviet temper will live out their days and all Sayonora Russia. You should live there minisovschik
            1. -1
              2 January 2019 17: 46
              Quote: Lek3338
              Do you know what is not fresh?

              Well, they themselves wrote that 2016. So obviously not fresh.
              Quote: Lek3338
              minisovschikov

              I’m embarrassed to ask, what kind of beast is this ?????
            2. 0
              2 January 2019 17: 59
              Quote: Lek3338
              Lek3338 (Lek) Today, 10:29 AM

              Currently,

              Kenan Aliyev - executive producer, Daisy Sindelar - director
              Currently - a Russian-language channel with an editorial office in Prague, a joint media project of Radio Liberty and Voices of America. On October 14, 2014, as the Ukrainian political crisis escalated, the thirty-minute Daily Present program was launched on Radio Liberty and Voice of America. In October 2016, the project expanded and began to work as a television channel. The channel is funded entirely from the US Congress through the Broadcasting Board of Governors. The media sees its task in “promoting democratic values ​​and institutions”
          2. +3
            2 January 2019 11: 24
            Quote: Borisovich
            And you pass off as fresh?

            And here is fresh or stale? What has changed is the question. You will look how the infrastructure of DalVO (Pogranichny settlement) has changed on our and the Chinese side ... Do you think that civilization has spread everywhere along with digital television? It is a pity for the people abandoned by the authorities as "unnecessary". The worst were the military towns and mono-cities. Where people were left without funding and work. See and imagine how "fun" there is ...
            1. 0
              2 January 2019 17: 42
              Quote: ROSS 42
              And is it fresh or stale? What has changed - that’s the question

    2. 0
      2 January 2019 12: 50

      and how we comment on this video, and the dirt in Japan, if desired, can be found
      1. +1
        2 January 2019 13: 04
        Quote: bmv04636
        and how to comment on this video

        Well done! The current military is more lucky than those who defended before. It remains to be done so that they went there not only to serve until the expiration of the contract, but also remained to live.
    3. 0
      2 January 2019 13: 08
      Telekagal "Present time"
      "Currently - a Russian-language TV channel with an editorial office in Prague, a joint media project of Radio Liberty and Voice of America [1]. Official round-the-clock broadcasting began on February 7, 2017. Available on cable, satellite and digital platforms [2]. The channel is fully funded from the US Congress through the Broadcasting Board of Governors [3]. The media sees its mission in "promoting democratic values ​​and institutions" [3]. "(c) Wiki.
      For other links - the same information.
    4. 0
      2 January 2019 15: 48
      Correctly the local said: We do not live, but survive.
      Shame on the authorities.
  14. +3
    2 January 2019 09: 40
    I also promise not to hang them with Hokaido and Okinawa))
  15. +5
    2 January 2019 09: 41
    Russia promised Abe to leave Japan without the Kuril Islands ...
  16. +11
    2 January 2019 09: 42
    For some reason, the authors of such articles do not mention that in the declaration of the 56th year there was a proposal for two islands to withdraw American bases from Japan ... And because of the refusal of Japan under US pressure, the question was closed. And without such explanations, the article turns into a provocation.
    1. +3
      2 January 2019 10: 04
      Quote: Letnab
      For some reason, the authors of such articles do not mention

      And to them, the authors, is this what? laughing
      Yes, however, if it is mentioned, then who will pay attention to this? hi
    2. +1
      3 January 2019 14: 47
      will there be US bases or not. The "guarantor" of the japam must definitely answer - NO !!! NO ISLANDS AND NON-MEMBER !!! otherwise he is not a "guarantor", but a condom used by the IMF and the State Department
  17. +1
    2 January 2019 09: 46
    Insolence rolls over.
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  19. +4
    2 January 2019 09: 49
    Abe.
    Before you evict Russians from the Kuril Islands, you have to evict all American military bases from Japanese. Read the 1956 agreement.
    1. -1
      2 January 2019 10: 31
      and what about bases?
      1. +1
        2 January 2019 10: 34
        The condition for the transfer of the two Kuril Islands to Japan in 1956 was the withdrawal of all American military bases from other Japanese islands (Okinawa, ....).
        1. -3
          2 January 2019 10: 39
          You have been misled.
          there is not a word about it.
          https://ru.wikisource.org/wiki/Советско-японская_декларация_1956_года
          1. +2
            2 January 2019 10: 54
            I agree. This is contained in the comments of the Soviet government on the text of the agreement concluded in San Francisco, which the USSR did not sign. The text of the 1956 declaration refers to the need to conclude an international peace treaty, and the treaty should already contain these requirements. Such a legally negotiated leapfrog.
            I think that simply, for a peace treaty, the USSR would never give up the Kuril Islands, and therefore did not give it up. The Americans did not want to leave, Moscow did not conclude a peace treaty, and the Japanese begged for "return, return."
          2. 0
            2 January 2019 10: 57
            Quote: Avior
            You have been misled. There is not a word about this.

            We all are poor ... And what misled us?
            No, well, it’s clear that you’ll overthink everything now. feel
            laughing Your "show masks" were removed. In the same scenery. request
  20. +3
    2 January 2019 09: 52
    It's just that center-boys have such games!
    Without meaning, as we believe, and without end ... how do they do! While the game is running, nothing is finished!
    1. 0
      2 January 2019 10: 06
      Quote: rocket757
      It's just that center-boys have such games!

      So you and the author of the article, also recorded in the center? belay Is there a lot of honor for him? laughing
      1. +2
        2 January 2019 11: 01
        Quote: tanit
        So you and the author of the article, also recorded in the center? Is there a lot of honor for him?

        I will explain. such articles are written -
        1. "at the behest of the heart" and for a lot of money.
        2. if there is no punitive psychiatry.
        Moreover, for the "minus" money ... point 2 comes into contact with point 1. hi
        1. 0
          2 January 2019 15: 57
          I do not care what drove the author of the report. The reporting is good. I was very interested to see how people live on the outskirts of Russia. If there were more such films, publicity, maybe the authorities would think about it, otherwise they would show Moscow all.
      2. +3
        2 January 2019 12: 07
        Quote: tanit
        Quote: rocket757
        It's just that center-boys have such games!

        So you and the author of the article, also recorded in the center? belay Is there a lot of honor for him? laughing

        What does the author of the article have to do with it? He simply outlined the topic, once again, and we once again speak on the topic ..... of course we can write the author plus k in his piggy bank.
        1. 0
          2 January 2019 13: 42
          Quote: rocket757
          What does the author of the article have to do with it?

          Victor, and you write your article. You can do it. And then re-read yours and this. I’m sure you will find ten differences. hi
          1. 0
            2 January 2019 15: 34
            What is the point?
            I can express everything on the topic, fit into a couple of resonant phrases, and you will have to write as much as possible, but not as you want!
            The boom will remain an interested critic, so much easier.
  21. +1
    2 January 2019 09: 59
    Abe's return of the islands is the main foreign dream. So he comes up with different moves — the bases will not be American (they will, the Japanese are not a decree for mattresses), they will not evict people. It is better to let him sleep more and see in the Kuril dream. A peace treaty, but who needs it. And the declaration of 56 is just a piece of paper. But he even forgot the essence of the declaration.
  22. +2
    2 January 2019 10: 00
    Good uncle Abe does not sit exactly on his Japanese pope.
  23. +2
    2 January 2019 10: 04
    Tokyo still claims to four islands of the South Kuril Islands, but is not going to evict Russian citizens from there, RIA Novosti reports a statement by Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe.

    It is necessary to convey to Abe - that when Russia joins Hokaydo Island for itself - it will also not evict the Japanese from there))
    1. 0
      2 January 2019 17: 44
      So let him pass! Russia is a humane state! Find them a job!
  24. +1
    2 January 2019 10: 13
    The logical result of flirting with the Japanese. Instead of advising them to make hara-kiri, they want to receive some dividends from them? Will not work. Russia is one and indivisible.
  25. +1
    2 January 2019 10: 24
    Our land for useless pieces of paper do not change !!!
  26. -1
    2 January 2019 10: 30
    We are not cold at all, not hot from this peace-non-peaceful treaty .. Let these underwear sit on their islands and don’t yap ..
  27. -2
    2 January 2019 10: 30
    the transfer of the islands of Japan should occur with the consent of local residents

    Let the size of the gift to residents be announced first lol
    1. +2
      2 January 2019 10: 51
      Quote: Avior
      Let the size of the gift to residents be announced first

      And this is exactly what you expect? laughing
    2. 0
      2 January 2019 19: 50
      Quote: Avior
      Let the size of the gift to residents be announced first

      Maybe citizenship?
  28. +6
    2 January 2019 10: 31
    Japan is under occupation and cannot guarantee anything on its own territory. So what's the point of discussing with the Japanese the fate of the civilian population of the islands?
    1. +2
      2 January 2019 10: 49
      Quote: APASUS
      So what's the point of discussing with the Japanese the fate of the civilian population of the islands?

      Well, of course - for Japan there is a sense. "Look, our then Abe. Evona what a samurai." laughing
      For Russia, no. hi
      For not quite normal in Russia, there is "Look, theirs is Abe. Evona what a samurai." laughing
      1. +2
        2 January 2019 11: 13
        Quote: tanit
        Well, of course - for Japan there is a sense. "

        The theme of the islands is a topic for the internal political struggle in Japan. In fact, this topic only lives on thanks to our politicians who are constantly ready to discuss, promise, and agree. And the state of war does not prevent the Japanese from building factories in Russia.
  29. +2
    2 January 2019 10: 34
    Lord, where does all this naivety come from ?! Friends, this is not Abe saying, this is Abe retelling their discussions with the president. Abe also said that US troops do not threaten the Russian Federation, which means that after the transfer of the Kuril Islands there will be US bases. The issue of transferring the Kuril Islands is a resolved issue, the conditions are being discussed. I wonder what you say, patriots, when these lands will be transferred.
    1. +2
      2 January 2019 12: 42
      Quote: UMA-UMA
      Lord, where does all this naivety come from ?! Friends, this is not Abe saying, this is Abe retelling their discussions with the president. Abe also said that US troops do not threaten the Russian Federation, which means that after the transfer of the Kuril Islands there will be US bases. The issue of transferring the Kuril Islands is a resolved issue, the conditions are being discussed. I wonder what you say, patriots, when these lands will be transferred.

      That this is Putin’s cunning mnogohodovka and everything is done for these patriots. laughing <
      1. -1
        2 January 2019 13: 16
        Right in the bullseye! Right! Another tricky planputin that has no analogues in the world.
    2. 0
      2 January 2019 14: 06
      Quote: UMA-UMA
      I wonder what you say, patriots, when these lands will be transferred.

      New Year paces the country !!! fellow Just a second day, and people are already talking to themselves.wassat
      1. 0
        2 January 2019 15: 13
        Lord you are mine. Do you really think that you are subtlely ironic? They reminded me of the foreman in the barracks.
  30. +7
    2 January 2019 10: 37
    Colleagues, we at one time never raised the issue of transferring the islands. These are all Russian territories.
    I’ll add, the author forgot that there are islands in this area: Tanfilyev, Anuchina, Yuri (as I was once named in my honor), Demina, Zeleny, Shards, Polonsky, Shikotan, Kunashir, Iturup. There are also small islands. And what about them? We have developed this territory. And I have been to them
    1. +2
      2 January 2019 11: 31
      Quote: midshipman
      We have developed this territory.

      And now THEY ... There is no longer our USSR, well-organized CAPITALIST DEMOCRACIES have been built in its place. And it makes sense to discuss what our hosts will do with the Kuril Islands, with $ 3 billion of Ukrainian debt (remember how faithfully the confessors in English jurisdiction believed, how they did not believe that they would KINUT. Who remembers here, how they threw the Russian Federation? In the same way, the Kuril Islands will forget ) It is allowed to talk who is HOST. Only carefully, in a whisper ...
    2. -1
      2 January 2019 14: 36
      Dear midshipman !!! Listen to you ... Where you just have not been ... And yes, the island of Yuri (more precisely, the stone ridge is not named in your honor) all these rocks have their own names for more than a hundred years. So do not here la la! I understand that you may have been flattered (since you defended yourself well in defense at one time), but alas, nothing is definitely named in your honor. WITH RESPECT! A humble resident of the Sakhalin region! hi
      1. +1
        2 January 2019 16: 16
        It is not clear what the modest resident of the Sakhalin Region wanted to say.
        Can it be easier and more affordable?
      2. 0
        2 January 2019 19: 05
        Dear Alexander (a modest resident of the Sakhalin region), life has developed so that I had to visit many places in the world. In the Far East, I had to lead the creation of the Tropic RSDN. Therefore, we were in the Kuril Islands with the USSR Air Force Command. It also happened with Marshal E.Ya. Savitsky to discourage the Americans from violating our borders in the Far East.
  31. +1
    2 January 2019 10: 38
    Abe promised not to evict Russians from the Kuril Islands

    In response to this statement by Abe, the Russian Foreign Ministry promised not to expel the Japanese from Hokkaido. laughing
  32. +1
    2 January 2019 10: 39
    I rolled my lip!
    Sew you and not Iturup with Kunashir!
  33. 0
    2 January 2019 10: 41
    Quote: Irek
    Well, thanks to "Dear Father", just roll up your little lips and forget about the islands.

    Yeah, I also wanted to write: "Well respected, your excellency, we are just melting with happiness." Can't wait. Hopefully.
    1. 0
      2 January 2019 10: 45
      If, God forbid, a terrible thing happens, then I don’t know ... An incredible betrayal will happen ... But I think the GDP is still not quite ...
  34. 0
    2 January 2019 10: 42
    They will simply be expelled and business as we say without a sucker (in this case, a Russian sucker) and life is bad
  35. +2
    2 January 2019 10: 52
    The next nonsense. How is it possible to evict without settling ...? ! We have been living with Japan for more than 70 years without concluding a peace treaty and are not particularly worried about this.
  36. +1
    2 January 2019 10: 52
    Naive Japanese ... hmm, a rare beast in the 21st century
  37. +3
    2 January 2019 11: 02
    The topic of how to solve the issue with the current residents of the islands, if they will be returned to the jurisdiction of Tokyo, was raised in an interview with Japanese journalists.
    It seems to me that it’s not worth creating precedents with the Kuril Islands and flirting with the Japs, and Koenigsberg, some kind of prez-liberal in the future. Will give nemchur, regardless of the shed blood of grandfathers and great-grandfathers ....
  38. ZVS
    +9
    2 January 2019 11: 05
    I don’t understand one thing, from which hangover did the Japanese have confidence that the islands would be transferred? Who dared to give them such hope that they are already discussing the right of Russians to live on the islands? Is the current government in Russia hatched a plan for the transfer of the islands.
    I have said and will continue to say that those who transfer the islands to the Japanese will be cursed by their own people. He foresees the memory of those who gave their lives in order to cleanse our Far East from Japanese militarism.
    1. 0
      2 January 2019 14: 22
      Quote: SU
      from which hangover did the Japanese have confidence

      Ever since the first post-war prime minister gave a hint about this issue. Yes
      Quote: SU
      Who dared to give them such hope

      Since then, each new prime minister has regularly given them such hope, because this is a mandatory item in the package of pre-election promises of Japanese politicians. And yes, as soon as you hear such statements again, you can conduct a test: after reading, try to find where and when this statement was made. One hundred percent on what will turn out to be some kind of "meeting with the electorate," such as a congress of the ruling party, or some local holiday. All these shaking of the air exclusively for the internal
      Japanese consumption, like a bowl of rice and seafood. The issue of territories is included in their daily diet. laughing And if any regular prime minister ceases to feed Japanese society with this dish, then he will soon leave. So they live - from the premiere to the premiere. laughing
      Quote: SU
      Is the current government in Russia hatched a plan for the transfer of the islands.

      See above. Yes
      Quote: SU
      he who passes the islands to the Japanese will be cursed by his own people.

      Oh, it's always welcome. Moreover, you can start right now, and right here. laughing Read the comments - at least half have such plans wassat And yes, pretty snot for today, let there be a holiday. We will carry out a cultural program, not paying attention to the nagging of the next Japanese. hi
  39. +2
    2 January 2019 11: 17
    Tokyo still claims to be the four islands of the South Kuril Islands, but is not going to evict Russian citizens from there, RIA Novosti reports Shinzo Abe.

    ... and this New Year overdid it with alcohol, it drives the blizzard ... laughing
  40. +3
    2 January 2019 11: 28
    Quote: в - vendetta
    Quote: Phil77
    Yeah, your words and ears in GDP! smile

    The President is not the last resort! There is a Constitutional Court, which, based on the Constitution of the Russian Federation, can cancel any decision / decree / law that contradicts the basic law.
    Yes, I did not hear that someone was going to give the Kuril Islands. And Klintsevich directly says:
    The question is much more fundamental: it is about the inviolability of the Russian borders and Russia's security in the broadest terms

    I doubt that the peace treaty with Japan is more important than the fundamental principles of the state system of the Russian Federation - Russia.



    It has long been pocket. Everything can be under current conditions ...
  41. +1
    2 January 2019 11: 30
    "Abe promised not to evict the Russians from the Kuril Islands" - let the Japanese first get rid of the US occupation.
  42. +1
    2 January 2019 11: 31
    Well, as Japan becomes part of the Russian Federation, we will also show a gesture of goodwill and leave the Japanese in Japan
  43. 0
    2 January 2019 11: 37
    And who gave him permission to dispose of the "unkilled bear"? - In any way spilled about a secret criminal conspiracy ?! - Such a "deal" will surely end with a long imprisonment for the guilty party on the "injured side".
  44. -1
    2 January 2019 11: 38
    And the point is not only that an American missile defense system may appear on the islands. The question is much more important: it is about the inviolability of the Russian borders and Russia's security in the broadest sense,
    declared Klintsevich.

    In January (tentatively 21), Abe intends to visit Moscow again, where negotiations on concluding a peace treaty should be continued. The previous meeting of the leaders of the two countries took place on December 14. According to its results Abe said that the parties agreed to speed up the negotiation process, taking as a basis the Soviet-Japanese declaration of 1956. And is it not a clinic. Schizophrenia on the face.
  45. +1
    2 January 2019 11: 42
    Japan should forever forget about the annexation of the Northern Territories. Rather, Japan will join Russia, or will be deleted from the list of existing states if it becomes very hot.
  46. AB
    +1
    2 January 2019 11: 52
    Zadolbali Japanese Wishlist with their If yes Kaby ... Continuation I think everyone knows. It is time to stop paying attention to the statements of politicians, we must monitor their actions. And the words ... well, the words, a concussion.
  47. +2
    2 January 2019 12: 03
    The Kuril Islands is the key to huge profits .. Japanese business is hampered by the lack of a peace treaty for large-scale trade in Russia .. but for decades, political parties have come to power under the slogans to turn the Kuril Islands ... they themselves drove themselves into this corner .. And BB proposed it’s an ingenious simplicity in the way out ... at the beginning a peace treaty and ..... continue your slogans for the Kuril Islands again. It seems that nothing will change for people, but ... business is nice.
    1. 0
      2 January 2019 13: 15
      It is not the problem of the "northern territories" that hinders Japanese business, but Washington.
  48. -2
    2 January 2019 12: 10
    Why kick them out? You can create conditions that they themselves will run away, as from Ukraine ....
  49. +1
    2 January 2019 12: 13
    Mr. Abe, we also promise not to evict the Japanese from Japan
  50. +2
    2 January 2019 12: 14
    He did not confuse anything, like our "benevolent" liberals? Who signed the act of surrender, which country is still occupied and has relative sovereignty? Since when can the losing side open its mouth and set conditions, only with our corrupt pseudo-elites is it possible, who have already surrendered everything in the west, all the results of all wars and politics since the 17th century, handing out Russian lands and pushing peoples into the arms of the enemy, refusing from everything and all of its sovereignty and status of a power with the greatest history and prospects of existence as a state education.
    1. +2
      2 January 2019 12: 44
      It all started in 1956. when the party was led by traitors.
  51. -1
    2 January 2019 12: 17
    So... The Federal Republic of Japan is maturing... Abe will not cope, I think. But Ramzan...
  52. 0
    2 January 2019 12: 20
    Japan’s lips are stretched very wide, but they are unlikely to be able to fulfill Russia’s conditions. Japan will first have to fulfill the demands of Great Russia, sever all military relations with NATO countries and withdraw all NATO military bases from the country.
  53. +2
    2 January 2019 12: 25
    and then in the next noodle show, GDP will say about Klintsevich that he doesn’t know what kind of blizzard he’s throwing...
  54. 0
    2 January 2019 12: 35
    The official response of our Foreign Ministry “We proceed from the need to take into account all existing diplomatic correspondence, including memorandums of the government of the Soviet Union dated January 27 and February 24, 1960,” she said. Both notes relate to the conclusion of a security treaty between Japan and the United States, which cemented the defense alliance between the two countries and legitimized the presence of the US military on Japanese territory. Appeal from the Sakhalin Regional Duma: Eliminate the issue of transferring the Kuril Islands to Japan! World War II officially ended with the signing of the San Francisco Peace Treaty with Japan in 1951. However, the Soviet delegation refused to sign it, citing the fact that the interests of Moscow were not taken into account in the document. In particular, the rights of the USSR to territories that belonged to Japan before the war were not recognized. Five years later, Moscow and Tokyo signed a joint declaration, which ended the state of war between the two countries. The document stipulated the renunciation of mutual claims, and the USSR also agreed to transfer to Japan part of the Kuril ridge - the island of Shikotan and the Habomai ridge. In 1960, Japan and the United States signed a treaty on mutual cooperation and security guarantees, which established a military alliance between the two countries. The Soviet government noted in notes that the Japanese-American security treaty “seriously affects the situation in the Far East and the Pacific Ocean.” Moscow considered that a military alliance with the United States would deprive Japan of its independence, which would make “it impossible to fulfill the Soviet government’s promise to transfer the islands of Habomai and Shikotan to Japan.” In conclusion, it is said that the two islands can be transferred to Japan only under two conditions: the withdrawal of the American contingent and the conclusion of a peace treaty. In the second, February, note, Moscow confirms its previous position: the Japan-US treaty contradicts the promises that Tokyo made in the 1956 Soviet-Japanese declaration.

    Source: http://rusnext.ru/news/1544709579
    And everything else is trolling the Japanese, telling them that they are under occupation and cannot make independent decisions. Our GDP threw wood on the fire
    Moscow, December 20. Residents of Japanese Okinawa are against the United States military base on Japanese territory, Russian President Vladimir Putin said at a press conference.
    The head of state noted that the governor of Okinawa opposed the expansion and strengthening of the American base.
    "He is against it. But he can’t do anything about it,” Putin said.
    Residents of Okinawa are also against it, and this is evidenced by the survey results, the Russian leader added. Putin recalled that the Japanese are demanding the withdrawal of the American military base from the country.

    Maybe we should also hold a referendum in Okinawa, and how about Abbe?
  55. +1
    2 January 2019 12: 35
    I can do that too.
    -Alla Borisovna, you can STILL live in your apartment. I'm not evicting you. Mr. Abe allows Russians to live on the RUSSIAN islands, and I will allow Pugacheva to live in her apartment.
    Unfortunately, the Russian Federation is OBLIGED to comply with ALL international agreements signed and ratified in the Soviet Union.
    But according to the Constitution we have the right to a referendum. I believe that issues of changing borders should be resolved through a referendum
    1. +1
      2 January 2019 16: 44
      Quote: Astra wild
      But according to the Constitution we have the right to a referendum. I believe that issues of changing borders should be resolved through a referendum

      The people also demanded a referendum on changing the retirement age, even a million signatures were collected and transferred to the administration of the resident, but we are still waiting for an answer, and the new law has already entered into force. The same will happen with the islands.
  56. -1
    2 January 2019 12: 56
    Now I understand why the Japanese are such workaholics
    1. +1
      2 January 2019 13: 03
      There is no need to show left-handed photos of garbage dumps. In Japan, this basically cannot happen with their cult of cleanliness and neatness.
      1. 0
        3 January 2019 12: 46
        Quote: evgen1221
        In Japan, this basically cannot happen with their cult of cleanliness and neatness.

        oh... my aunt, when she left for permanent residence in Germany, rubbed something similar... six months later, when she returned to Russia, she admitted that there is advertising, and there is real life, which is not at all like a popular print.
    2. 0
      2 January 2019 16: 32
      Biased reporting. I found a Bichev apartment and said that all Japanese live like this.
  57. 0
    2 January 2019 13: 01
    Well, with Japan’s limited territory and resources, it would be better to think about, if not joining China or for us, an alliance that is very probable; after the fall of the hegemon, who should fall under whom should they think now? Some won't make it.
  58. 0
    2 January 2019 13: 01
    "....Abe promised not to evict Russians from the Kuril Islands..." thank you is not just human, you are our cross-eyed benefactor.
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  60. +1
    2 January 2019 13: 02
    Yeah, they won't kick you out. Only now they will demand that you learn Japanese in a week and pass an exam.
    And also liberate lands that will appeal to the Japanese elite.
    Yes, although, most likely, the islands will be decorated for show, and then the Americans will come there.
  61. -1
    2 January 2019 13: 03
    Who is Abe, and why should anyone care about his opinion? Russia has no reason to hand over the islands. From the word in general. Nobody needs this. Japan cannot offer anything for them so that this idea would somehow interest the Russian Federation, or does not want to.

    What to discuss in such a situation?
  62. 0
    2 January 2019 13: 03
    In this case, the question must be raised: won’t the Japanese want to “annex” the entire Russian Federation?
  63. +1
    2 January 2019 13: 06
    Out of powerlessness, he spouts this nonsense, thereby reassuring himself and his fellow citizens.
    1. 0
      2 January 2019 13: 44
      Quote: Rusland
      Out of powerlessness, he spouts this nonsense, thereby reassuring himself and his fellow citizens.

      and exciting citizens of the Russian Federation. laughing
  64. 0
    2 January 2019 13: 23
    Abe promised not to evict Russians from the Kuril Islands
    laughing Well done Abe, funny laughing
    1. 0
      2 January 2019 13: 46
      Well done, they’ve already given everything to them. And they paid extra for Crimea. laughing
      Quote: flicker
      Well done Abe, funny

      Now you don’t know who to believe... Abe - he’s not lying, no? laughing
  65. +1
    2 January 2019 13: 42
    We started about health, and ended with peace. Where are the Kuril Islands and where is the pension? The desire of some comrades to involve “leftist” issues in any discussion is depressing.
  66. +2
    2 January 2019 13: 47
    the topic is very interesting, but after weighing all the pros and cons, we must come to one disappointing conclusion, as the national leader decides, so it will be, and the fact that he does not trade territories, well, he also said that while he is the president, the retirement age will not increase it will happen, so please be understanding
    By the way, how this very increase violates the Constitution, so that according to Article 55 of Part 2, laws should not be issued in the Russian Federation that abolish or diminish the rights and freedoms of man and citizen
    that is, they could lower the age, but they raised it, by the way, this in no way interferes with the exercise of the right to work, for some reason police and military pensioners continue to work, mainly in private security structures, and receive a pension and salary
    although there are now proposals to cancel pensions for working pensioners, by the way, a very sensible proposal, it must be implemented, because a pension is payments for loss of ability to work due to old age, and if you can work for a person, then it’s even necessary
  67. 0
    2 January 2019 14: 04
    Am I the only one who thinks that narrow-eyed people share the skin of an unkilled bear? Fuck them, not our territory.
    1. 0
      2 January 2019 17: 48
      This is because they are stupid, the Japanese. They can’t create anything of their own, they only envy us
  68. 0
    2 January 2019 15: 01
    That's a lot of happiness! laughing For our part, we promise not to move in the Japanese. This is the compromise.
  69. 0
    2 January 2019 15: 04
    Quote: tihonmarine
    You are young and you don’t remember Vietnam, therefore you don’t know who the Gukas are.

    I understand that you remember Vietnam. Well, tell me. Maybe write something? Oh, yes, I’m also a young guy, born 67, in general.
  70. DPN
    0
    2 January 2019 15: 09
    If they like the Kuril Islands, the only way out is to take Japan into Russia, but of course without the USA and everything will be fine, they will help us raise the industry and fill up the car.
  71. +6
    2 January 2019 15: 20
    Two points follow from this message (which, however, repeats similar ones on news sites): 1) the parties agreed in principle on the transfer; 2) there is a discussion of the technical side of the issue - how and when... However, this was clear both from the messages in December and November... Why not - Putin has already given the territories to China (and received practically NOTHING in return (neither economically nor geopolitically) will give up these too (hoping for Japanese technology - which they will not give him)....The traitors have advanced so far in the issue of transferring the territory of Russia that there is only a small step left and it will take place during Putin’s visit to Japan (February-March).
  72. -1
    2 January 2019 15: 38
    Ha ha! V. Putin deceived the Japanese, and he believed it!
  73. 0
    2 January 2019 15: 42
    At least he calmed me down. Otherwise, the Russian residents of these islands were wondering what their fate would be like next.
    1. -2
      2 January 2019 16: 16
      They can rest easy! Russia does not trade territories! On the contrary, the Japanese need to worry - we can easily annex part of Japan!
  74. +2
    2 January 2019 17: 16
    Quote: Stirbjorn
    Quote: Sirocco
    I will not exaggerate this topic, but it is worth remembering that "While I am in power, the retirement age will not be raised" (not literally)))) So let's wait and see how this whole farce will end.

    Exactly ... and Peskov somehow does not comment, not to mention Putin and Lavrov. The head of another state discusses openly what he will do with our population request

    Actually, Lavrov has already commented!!! that we, His Majesty GDP, are ready to give up the islands in accordance with the 1956 declaration and, like, we comply with international agreements if Japan signs its defeat in the Second World War hi But they are not ready to do this. And this is in the official interview with KP. hi am
  75. +2
    2 January 2019 17: 20
    And they also started the pension from afar, but in the end they raised it and the GDP took its word back am And here the same thing begins, bargaining, raising the price, and along the way, public opinion is preparing that this is how it should be am
    1. -1
      2 January 2019 17: 31
      This pension was given to you...Everyone clung to it. Now there are more important questions. It is important for us to destroy the Americans, and we will make up for the rest
      1. 0
        2 January 2019 19: 00
        Quote: Kot28
        Now there are more important questions. It is important for us to destroy the Americans,


        We'll definitely bang. The whole world is in ruins
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    3. 0
      3 January 2019 07: 29
      They promise inflation of 8%, and a pension increase of only 7,05%.
      https://metagazeta.ru/economics/prognoz-inflyatsiya-v-rossii-mozhet-dostignut-8/?utm_source=finobzor.ru
  76. +1
    2 January 2019 18: 08
    Abe promised not to evict Russians from the Kuril Islands

    Thank you for your kindness. Well, for now we promise not to evict the Japanese from Hokkaido.
    1. 0
      2 January 2019 18: 22
      Hokkaido Ours!!! )))
    2. +1
      2 January 2019 18: 57
      Quote: Berkut24
      Well, for now we promise not to evict the Japanese from Hokkaido.


      Are you an adviser to the president?
  77. -1
    2 January 2019 18: 51
    It turns out he is a kind-hearted man. Father, really, dear, who will give you the islands? Well, if only in a dream... You first evict the Americans from the island to the south, break the contract with them, and only then go to Moscow to bow, and so... until you fulfill the conditions, even think about any... forget about the northern territories.
  78. 0
    2 January 2019 18: 54
    let the non-samurai graze
  79. 0
    2 January 2019 19: 01
    What do Ukrainians and Japanese have in common? Both of them get rich with thoughts.
  80. 0
    2 January 2019 20: 56
    Why give? At one time, they didn’t sign a peace treaty under the influence of the United States, but what has changed? The Japanese want it, but Russia needs it? As a last resort, return the two islands subject to the withdrawal of all US bases from Japanese territory.
  81. 0
    2 January 2019 21: 00
    I promise not to evict the Japanese from Tokyo
  82. 0
    2 January 2019 21: 00
    The people will not approve of this “diplomatic Tsushima” and it could end very sadly. For both Abe and Vova.
  83. 0
    2 January 2019 21: 00
    He won’t evict the residents - it’s a relief from the heart laughing -can the inhabitants of Siberia also live in peace? belay
    1. 0
      2 January 2019 21: 30
      Calm down, China also promised not to evict them...
      1. 0
        2 January 2019 21: 34
        Now my head hurts for the Leningrad region.
        1. 0
          2 January 2019 21: 56
          Calmly! Finland promised not to expel Russians...
  84. -1
    2 January 2019 21: 22
    The population of the Northern Territories (as the Japanese call the southern islands of the Kuril ridge) are citizens of Russia. However, our position in the negotiations is not that, they say, “you please leave there”,
    said abe.

    If I understand Shinjo’s partner correctly, the negotiations are going productively, since the matter has reached the citizens.
    The statement of the Japanese Prime Minister was commented on by member of the Federation Council Franz Klintsevich.

    The opinion of this sovereign empty-headed man is certainly very weighty. When the islands sail away, the empty-headed people will pompously yell “not an inch” for other reasons.
  85. 0
    2 January 2019 21: 29
    The main thing in politics is to meet, confer, smile, write, count... The main thing is maneuvers, everything else is fog. It is clearly stated: “The two islands can pass to Japan only after there are no foreign bases left in the country.” That is, we are not against it, but fulfill the condition... The condition is impossible!
  86. +1
    3 January 2019 01: 02
    We promise not to evict the Japanese from Hokkaido. We swear!
  87. +2
    3 January 2019 02: 38
    “There can be no question of transferring the so-called Northern Territories to Japan.”
    Such words are in Putin’s ears. There was already a precedent with China...
  88. 0
    3 January 2019 07: 21
    Knowing the attitude of the Japanese towards foreigners, the Russians themselves will leave and survive.
    As long as the United States rules Japan, the peace treaty is an empty piece of paper.
    The game is not worth the candle.
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  90. +1
    3 January 2019 11: 54
    The topic is being discussed so much that it is clear that the issue of returning the islands has been resolved positively...
  91. 0
    3 January 2019 13: 48
    I, in turn, promise Abe not to drive the Japanese out of the island. Honshu.
  92. 0
    3 January 2019 14: 51
    Putin needs to make a statement on television and on the Internet in Japan, the Japs need to make a statement so that this statement can be shown to ALL Japan and ALL Japs that the Kuril Islands are Russian, Russia is Russian Orthodox Christian FOREVER AND FOREVER. And put Russian troops in the Kuril Islands forever!
  93. 0
    3 January 2019 15: 03
    Quote: Tatiana
    But you never know what the Russians promise Abe !!!
    Abe is now alive, but tomorrow he took it and died! But Japan itself with its history and its predatory mentality of genocide against other peoples was, is and will be!
    Therefore, what Abe proclaims to the world and promises the Russian Federation not to evict Russians from the Kuril Islands under the Japanese administrative-territorial authority in the Kuril Islandsdoes not mean at all that the Russians will not die out there in the end, prisoners in concentration camps and reservations.

    Let us recall the death factory of the Japanese militarists "detachment 731".
    The "731 Detachment" was engaged not only in biological weapons, but also the Japanese physicians of the detachment conducted their terrible medical experiments there on ethnic prisoners of other nations on human survival in extreme conditions!
    It was the Soviet Union that put an end to the existence of the "731 detachment".
    On August 9, 1945, Soviet troops launched an offensive against the Japanese army, and Detachment 731 was ordered to "act at its own discretion." Work on the evacuation of "Detachment 731" began by the Japanese on the night of August 10-11, and traces of "Detachment 731" were later discovered on the same Kuriles!

    In addition, Japan from under the wing of the USA never repented of her war crimes in WWII!

    There can simply be no confidence of Abe from the Russian Federation in this matter!

    And if the Japanese do not evict the Russians, the people of Russia from the Kuril Islands, should they give the Kuril Islands to the Japs? How absurd! Even if the Sponsors treat the Russians well, the people of Russia in the Kuril Islands will not be oppressed or evicted, it still doesn’t matter - the Kuril Islands should not be given away! Even if the Japanese are good, they shouldn’t give them the Kuril Islands! Because because-because you will give up YOUR LAND AND YOUR PEOPLE!
  94. 0
    3 January 2019 15: 07
    Quote: в - vendetta

    I doubt that the peace treaty with Japan is more important than the fundamental principles of the state system of the Russian Federation - Russia.

    And if there is a peace treaty, should we give up the Kuril Islands??? - Nonsense! Even if there is a peace treaty, the Kuril Islands cannot be given away, not an inch of our land, not a single person!
    There is no point in that peace treaty if you give up your lands.
    Hitler also signed a non-aggression pact with the USSR. And then he attacked! You can wipe yourself with these agreements, but an agreement won’t hurt. You just don’t have to give anything for an agreement—not a millimeter of land, not a single person!
  95. 0
    3 January 2019 15: 08
    Quote: Datskiy
    Quote: в - vendetta
    Quote: Phil77
    Yeah, your words and ears in GDP! smile

    The President is not the last resort! There is a Constitutional Court, which, based on the Constitution of the Russian Federation, can cancel any decision / decree / law that contradicts the basic law.
    Yes, I did not hear that someone was going to give the Kuril Islands. And Klintsevich directly says:
    The question is much more fundamental: it is about the inviolability of the Russian borders and Russia's security in the broadest terms

    I doubt that the peace treaty with Japan is more important than the fundamental principles of the state system of the Russian Federation - Russia.

    And where is the repeal of the law on raising the retirement age?

    I fully support you!
  96. 0
    3 January 2019 15: 14
    Quote: Leonid60
    What is one point where the constitution of the Russian Federation is violated in the new decree on raising the retirement age?

    Violated! An anti-people law has been adopted, which deprives the people of their legal pension in due time and forces the people to work hard after 60 years for men, 55 years for women and after 45 years for the military and security forces, instead of allowing people to have a well-deserved rest and live in pleasure in retirement. And a lot of people simply die at work from backbreaking and hard work, hustling right at work.
    Here's a direct point of violation of the constitution - an anti-people law - depriving people of legal rest - pensions, a direct point - where legal rest - pension - is taken from the people and transferred forward for a while - here's a direct point of violation.
  97. 0
    3 January 2019 15: 18
    Quote: Leonid60
    In Google there is, what articles are violated by the Constitution of the Russian Federation in the DECREE ON INCREASING PENSION AGE? So I’ll answer you without Google: In the Russian Federation there is an article on the right of citizens to retire. But there is not a single word about the age in the constitution! Age is regulated by the DECREE (!) By the Government ..... Therefore, this DECREE does not violate a single CONSTITUTION of the Russian Federation !!!!!

    This decree directly violates the constitution. This decree is anti-people - direct genocide of the people - so that the people will die at work, instead of living and relaxing in retirement. For this anti-people decree, the security forces, courts and prosecutors must condemn these legislators , confiscate their property and deport them from Russia, if not put them up against the wall and shoot them!
  98. 0
    3 January 2019 15: 27
    Quote: Felix
    Quote: Datskiy
    But does retirement 5 and 8 years later not diminish a citizen’s right to a well-deserved rest?

    But does the 55/60 retirement law not detract from my legal right to work?

    No, the retirement law does not diminish your legal right to work in any way.

    If you want and can work yourself, at your own discretion, voluntarily, and not forced, and you can work, you can do your job well, work, no one forbids you. I won’t mind if you work as a loader instead of me after 60 years - unloading cars - I will be glad, please - I am for your right to work. laughing But I, after 60 years, don’t want and don’t want to work, but I want to relax in retirement, like all the people want, ALL of Russia is Russian Orthodox Christian.
    If you want, you yourself want, to work voluntarily after 60 years and you can work, you can do your job well, and not just sit and get paid from a fool- for this you don’t need to raise everyone’s retirement age. For this, you just need to let you work for salary, no pension, and not to raise the retirement age for everyone - to force everyone to work against their will. Because I don’t want to work as a loader after 60 years, my father doesn’t want to turn nuts in a mechanic’s shop, my brother doesn’t want to catch bandits and risk his life, my mother doesn’t want to sit and look at the numbers through a magnifying glass as an accountant, a friend doesn’t want to work as a lumberjack, a neighbor doesn’t want to work on a farm. And we all want to relax in retirement, and not die at work with our legs stretched out from overwork.
    And if you are such a smart guy, I can give you a shovel after you turn 60 and send the cars to unload - work, if you really want to.
  99. 0
    3 January 2019 15: 39
    Quote: Leonid60
    Excuse me, sir, but where in the DECISION FOR INCREASING PENSION AGE HUMAN RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS AND CITIZENS ARE CANCELED? Are you a nice person, have you messed up something? You substitute concepts, and get confused in the Articles of the Constitution with the GOVERNMENT ORDER !!!! Constitutions are required to hold a REFERENDUM !!! AND GOVERNMENT DECISIONS The opinion of the People is not necessary! Sorry, I don’t think that you are not legally literate, but learn exactly the advice MATCH .....

    Where is this, are you blind????? Directly, our retirement time is being taken away from us, from us, from our elderly, from our children: from men - after 60 years, from women - after 55 years, from military and security forces - after 45 years. So much for the abolition of the rights and freedoms of citizens. Such legislators who carry out genocide of the people are subject to pitchforks or a soft measure - to confiscate their property in favor of the people and Russia and deport them from Russia to the Russian Orthodox Christian!
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