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The media with reference to the Ministry of Labor told about the coming layoffs in Russia

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According to the forecast provided by the Ministry of Labor and Social Protection of the Russian Federation, more than 230 thousands of Russian citizens can become unemployed by March 12 March 2019. This was reported today in the newspaper. "News" with reference to the analytical note departments.



According to the publication, the ministry’s forecast is based on a survey of 46 of thousands of organizations with a total number of employees of 12 million people and covers a period of three months - from December 12 of the current year's 2018 to March 12 of the year.

The Ministry of Labor explains that the risk of dismissal means not only the termination by the employer of an employment contract with an employee, but also his transfer to part-time work.

According to the Ministry of Labor, employees working in the banking and financial sector found themselves in the so-called risk zone. The number of citizens who may lose their jobs in this area is 30,5 thousand Russians. In the transportation industry, losses can amount to 27,7 thousands of workers. A large number of layoffs are also expected in the area engaged in the production of computing equipment and electrical equipment - 16,6 thousand people. What caused these possible reductions, not reported.

As noted in the analytical note, the total number of unemployed Russians for this period will be 230,8 thousand people, most of whom live in cities such as Moscow and St. Petersburg.

Comparisons with the number of layoffs for the last year (for the same period) are not given.

During the press conference, the Russian president noted that unemployment in Russia had reached a record low.
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  1. Qwertyarion
    Qwertyarion 27 December 2018 07: 06
    +40
    How so, and we were told that we have economic growth! Cheated?
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 27 December 2018 07: 12
      +29
      Cheated?

      smile It’s time to understand that the state is like a real macho ... he gave a word ... he took a word ... back.
      I can say that other unpleasant things from the state are coming ... very unpleasant for ordinary citizens.
      1. Qwertyarion
        Qwertyarion 27 December 2018 07: 58
        +4
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        I can say that other unpleasant things from the state are coming ... very unpleasant for ordinary citizens.

        If possible, in more detail: "What unpleasant things await us?"
        1. Same lech
          Same lech 27 December 2018 08: 00
          +21
          If possible, in more detail: "What unpleasant things await us?"

          Taxes ... damn them ... those who do not have time to draw up their dachas and plots ... will add penalties for registration ... gasoline prices, transportation, food and many other small things.
          1. Tatar 174
            Tatar 174 27 December 2018 08: 17
            +23
            Quote: The same LYOKHA
            and many many other little things.

            The increased amount of VAT is not a trifle, you probably attributed the increase in the retirement age to the trifles, to those who were supposed to retire in 2019? Now they will not have a pension or work. They seem to have increased unemployment benefits, but the size allowance is not a pension ... Tell me again that there are no such people, you can find examples of the opposite among your friends, and almost everyone will find. And transport workers, why reduce it, because transport is like the artery of the country !!!
          2. Qwertyarion
            Qwertyarion 27 December 2018 10: 05
            +4
            They say on TV that an increase in VAT, excise taxes on fuel, all kinds of taxes, and some fees are necessary for an economic breakthrough, for the implementation of decrees, economic growth in numbers increases and suddenly, possible reductions and layoffs of people .....
            Somehow ugly it turns out.
        2. BAI
          BAI 27 December 2018 08: 59
          +7
          If possible, in more detail: "What unpleasant things await us?"

          For example, this:
          Water and heat prices could rise due to electricity
          The Ministry of Construction believes that a draft government decree prepared by the Ministry of Energy on the introduction of consumers' fees for the unused power supply reserve will lead to an increase in tariffs for heat, water supply and sanitation.
      2. Hammerlock
        Hammerlock 27 December 2018 08: 06
        +8
        During the press conference, the Russian president noted that unemployment in Russia had reached a record low.

        The mess !!! Must tighten!
      3. Underwater hunter
        Underwater hunter 27 December 2018 08: 35
        +5
        According to the forecast presented by the Ministry of Labor and Social Protection of the Russian Federation, more than 230 thousand Russian citizens may become unemployed by March 12, 2019

        What are our optimistic forecasts. 2019 will be tin. And with work and with prices and with ZP. And they draw numbers from the bulldozer, I have long understood this.
        1. den3080
          den3080 27 December 2018 10: 56
          +3
          I want to note that it’s not “from the bulldozer”, but from last year’s basic “balda” smile
          in the end it turns out in a bold way - based on the results of previous years.
      4. tap
        tap 27 December 2018 09: 06
        +14
        What good is it to expect in a state that has not asked us to be born?
      5. New Year day
        New Year day 27 December 2018 12: 59
        +6
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        I can say that other unpleasant things from the state are coming ... very unpleasant for ordinary citizens.

        Without a doubt. By the numerous "requests of the working people." The field for maneuvers for "true patriots" is narrowing. It will be difficult for them to tell us about economic growth, the charitable impact of sanctions on the economy, the growth of welfare of the population
      6. Massimo
        Massimo 27 December 2018 14: 15
        +5
        this is understandable, do not go to a fortuneteller, VAT, gasoline, and after him everything else, housing and communal services.
    2. Titsen
      Titsen 27 December 2018 07: 13
      +9
      Quote: Qwertyarion
      Cheated?


      Why so rude?

      They just didn’t tell the whole truth!
      1. x.andvlad
        x.andvlad 27 December 2018 08: 03
        +40
        Apparently, the whole truth is not only not being told to us. To the very top all the time there are simply “ideal” ceremonial reports on growth, development, minimal unemployment and miserable inflation.
        This "collective mind" of oligarchs and bureaucrats is like a virus adapting to its parasitic existence.
        What is our inflation there?
        According to the Federal State Statistics Service:
        Inflation for the first 3 months of 2018, data as follows: March - 0,29%, from the beginning of the year - 0,81%. Inflation target set by the Central Bank of Russia for 2018 - 4%
        Does anyone from "living on earth" believe in these numbers?

        For example, I recently received an SMS from Rostelecom that my Internet tariff from January 1 will be not 400, but 500 rubles a month!
        What is there 4%!?!?!?. It's all 25, full length !!!

        After that you start to feel like a "cash cow".
    3. YasenPen
      YasenPen 27 December 2018 07: 24
      +15
      ... about the upcoming layoffs in Russia

      The worse (for the people), the better (for the "Kremlin Pahanat") ...
      and in general, stop scolding the native government together with the guarantor, this is all a "cunning plan" if someone still does not understand anything.
      In the meantime, grandmothers and grandfathers are beginning to suspect something and "turn on their brains" as recommended
      during a press conference, Russian President

      1. DenZ
        DenZ 27 December 2018 10: 32
        -4
        Strange, a pensioner woman at the beginning of the third paragraph speaks of herself in a masculine way ... Age incidents. Actually, there has been a lot of something lately in the media of such letters and stories (about people living literally at 8-10 thousand rubles a month. I admit that this is true, but! Very much like a massive stuffing.
        1. Mestny
          Mestny 27 December 2018 10: 49
          -5
          Nothing strange - young people are sitting, writing by order with copy-paste from templates. New Year's bustle, a lot of things. Someone did not check.
          It is not just very similar, it is it.
          1. New Year day
            New Year day 27 December 2018 13: 02
            +3
            Sergei! You better tell us about achievements, about the upcoming flight to Mars.
            With regards to the grandmothers, then comes the age and the grandmother forgets how the children’s name
          2. lis-ik
            lis-ik 27 December 2018 17: 21
            +4
            Quote: Mestny
            Nothing strange - young people are sitting, writing by order with copy-paste from templates. New Year's bustle, a lot of things. Someone did not check.
            It is not just very similar, it is it.

            Sorry for being rude, but don't talk nonsense, want to say that we do not have such pensions? My neighbor in the country receives 7500 rubles. It’s good that I have the strength to work.
        2. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 27 December 2018 12: 34
          +5
          Quote: DenZ
          Strange, a pensioner woman at the beginning of the third paragraph speaks of herself masculine ...

          Read carefully.
          (correspondence with the authorities attached)

          Further - the blogger writes.
          Quote: Mestny
          It is not just very similar, it is it.

          Of course he is.
        3. YasenPen
          YasenPen 27 December 2018 13: 48
          0
          Denz (Denis) and Mestny (Sergey), guys

          so, your nihilistic "humor" in relation to old people (and elderly people of pre-retirement age) is beyond reality and, moreover, decency ...
          God be your judge ...
          1. DenZ
            DenZ 27 December 2018 15: 26
            -2
            Quote: Clear
            so, your nihilistic "humor" in relation to old people (and people of elderly pre-retirement age) is beyond reality and, moreover, decency ... God be your judge ...

            Where is my humor ??? I write that this is either a stuffing (which is not humor) or that
            Quote: DenZ
            I admit it's true

            And after what words you thought it was funny ??? Well, God and his courts are a completely different story.
        4. 16112014nk
          16112014nk 27 December 2018 14: 56
          +2
          Read a little more carefully. The author received a letter from a pensioner from Ufa.
    4. akunin
      akunin 27 December 2018 08: 33
      +4
      Quote: Qwertyarion
      How so, and we were told that we have economic growth! Cheated?

      no. it's true that they cheated. laughing
    5. Shelest2000
      Shelest2000 27 December 2018 08: 57
      +4
      How long have you heard the truth from the government? I don’t remember something ...
      1. Conductor
        Conductor 27 December 2018 20: 14
        +1
        PD then drowned, and Kursk once drowned, Indeed?
    6. Vadim237
      Vadim237 27 December 2018 10: 08
      -2
      Such articles emerge before each new year - either RSK Mig, Uralvagonzavod, mass layoffs in Sukhoi, or Kurganmashzavod will be reduced and closed altogether - time passes and no reductions should be made, so any jaundice with "truthful" news to unnamed sources.
      1. Mestny
        Mestny 27 December 2018 10: 52
        -5
        The most interesting thing is - where do the hot commentators go, howling in a voice about everything, have we all been fooled?
        The "news" passed, turned out to be fake. But the sediment remained?
        Here on this sediment and work. Suddenly someone will sit in their head - they will go and hammer, for example, a sensor in a rocket with a hammer. Well, that she would not go to the oligarchs.
      2. DenZ
        DenZ 27 December 2018 15: 29
        0
        Quote: Vadim237
        Such articles pop up before each new year

        Yes, not only before the new year, already in general such articles were put on the conveyor. The ideological treatment of the population is no less.
    7. snake
      snake 27 December 2018 11: 41
      +4
      Quote: Qwertyarion
      How so, and we were told that we have economic growth! Cheated?

      No, they were not deceived. They just did not specify who has it "here".
      1. Qwertyarion
        Qwertyarion 27 December 2018 12: 00
        +2
        Quote: serpent
        They just did not specify who has it "with us".

        + You hit the point! Someone will fall under the dismissal and teeth on the shelf, but someone's dreams will end (yachts, girls, sports clubs, casinos)
    8. Datskiy
      Datskiy 27 December 2018 12: 37
      -3
      Topic video [media = http: // https: //www.youtube.com/watch? V = pplAPLop2Q4]
    9. Sarmat Sanych
      Sarmat Sanych 27 December 2018 12: 40
      0
      Again the fake shots from Izvestia, as usual. The Ministry of Labor denied media information about the upcoming "mass layoffs": https://ria.ru/20181227/1548786250.html
    10. askort154
      askort154 27 December 2018 14: 43
      +2
      Qwertyarion..How so, and we were told that we have economic growth! Cheated?

      Article - Fake tongue ! Ministry of Labor has already denied yes !
      1. Qwertyarion
        Qwertyarion 27 December 2018 14: 58
        +2
        Quote: askort154
        The article is fake! The Ministry of Labor has already denied!

        And they had other options than to refute?
      2. Alexey Z
        Alexey Z 27 December 2018 21: 20
        0
        Does the Ministry of Labor give us work?
    11. NordUral
      NordUral 27 December 2018 23: 59
      +2
      How so, but we were told that us the economic growth!
      They told the truth - them - financial growth, Vyacheslav.
  2. Same lech
    Same lech 27 December 2018 07: 08
    +4
    Well then do damn capitalism ... the labor market will replenish with new unemployed.
    Interestingly, the self-employed in our beautiful state are considered officially working? what
    1. Conductor
      Conductor 27 December 2018 07: 09
      +2
      no . not considered
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 27 December 2018 07: 16
        +11
        no . not considered

        Not the order ... it would be necessary to strip their taxes to blue.
        How cool the state is concerned about collecting taxes from everything that moves and does not move, and at the same time spit upon the appearance of an army of unemployed.
        1. Conductor
          Conductor 27 December 2018 07: 33
          +7
          So they are preparing for this))) do not worry, remember there was a noise that the unemployed would be forced to pay for health insurance))) and all self-employed people will begin to pick up, from grandmothers in the markets, to everyone. It is necessary to pay for the arrangement of Russia, not all the oil industry will be blown away.
    2. Finches
      Finches 27 December 2018 07: 11
      +29
      Here, Alexei, correctly emphasized - capitalism! At the same time, the sheriff’s hard workers do not care about the system, and economic growth is often caused by the dismissal of excess mouths! You did not like the USSR, do you call communism and socialism utopia? Why then suffer? We need to take this as a given of the political system that is in the yard, well, and not to forget, according to Chubais, to bow to the legs of the business! laughing
      1. Bull Terrier
        Bull Terrier 27 December 2018 07: 31
        -20
        total 75000 for organizations with 12 million employees? less than one percent?) such figures are the norm. enterprises are being optimized. the states are declining. why keep extra people? should the owner keep the workers quiet for what?
        1. bessmertniy
          bessmertniy 27 December 2018 07: 45
          +13
          How for what! And attach your own blood! Lovely acquaintances, etc. They are not primarily fired.
          1. Bull Terrier
            Bull Terrier 27 December 2018 07: 53
            -10
            if this is my enterprise I want to take whom I want. I, as the owner, need profit and if it brings blood, then why not? it generally doesn’t talk about state-owned enterprises, but generally in general.
            1. Conductor
              Conductor 27 December 2018 08: 49
              +15
              You are right, your company, whom you want to take, whom you want to reduce in spite of any situation of the reduction. Profit in 1 place. Only if he gives you an abbreviated yes on the head with a hammer, if the family is hungry, he is wrong by the law, but according to his concept, he is right, isn’t he?
              1. Bull Terrier
                Bull Terrier 27 December 2018 09: 03
                -2
                I live in a normal society. not by concepts. Do I need to sponsor it? there are different reductions. some have fallen sales and if the reduction is not carried out in the pipe you can fly out at all. for others, for example, reorientation to other areas and specialists from the old field are simply not needed. the third have optimized production and the number of employees has become redundant. in fact, it all awaits us or our children. many professions will simply disappear. I mean for people to disappear.
                1. Conductor
                  Conductor 27 December 2018 09: 34
                  +6
                  Yes, digitalization and optimization are everywhere, then why the call to increase the birth rate if the number of jobs will be reduced in view of the above? Give birth for what?
                  1. Bull Terrier
                    Bull Terrier 27 December 2018 09: 36
                    -1
                    I don’t know) I think this question will be sharper and sharper every year
                    1. Conductor
                      Conductor 27 December 2018 10: 38
                      +2
                      Dear, and who will you hire for work, young, for, but with average experience or 50 years but with experience?
                      1. Bull Terrier
                        Bull Terrier 27 December 2018 16: 27
                        -1
                        effective. the number of years does not matter if a person gives a result.
                      2. Conductor
                        Conductor 27 December 2018 20: 16
                        +1
                        Hold my Five, not ten, I’ll even call you Baka. No jokes !!!!
                2. Conductor
                  Conductor 27 December 2018 10: 02
                  +3
                  That is, you never gave bribes, didn’t try to get around, solve either. Directly spherical horse in a vacuum))))
                  1. Bull Terrier
                    Bull Terrier 27 December 2018 16: 29
                    -2
                    life by concepts is not a bribe or ability to solve issues. these are handwritten rules according to which a certain part of society lives. I do not accept them.
            2. Declarant
              Declarant 27 December 2018 08: 56
              +8
              This is the bestial grin of capitalism. And in this case in your face. wink
            3. Paul Bayan
              Paul Bayan 27 December 2018 09: 11
              0
              Wooden loss
            4. Vlad 63
              Vlad 63 27 December 2018 10: 21
              +9
              It is strange that you, Bull Terrier, were so "minus". You are right, a private enterprise should work for profit. And reduction is their right. It is regrettable, but it is better to fire, for example, 10% of the staff, rather than after a while the company is bankrupt and 100% went out into the streets. But it is not only private traders who cut back. Look how much government organizations like Russian Railways or Sberbank are ready to cut. The task of the state is to make it so that the private trader needs to increase production, sales, etc. For example, how Trump does it in the USA. Our government does the opposite. They increase the already exorbitant taxes, reduce the purchasing power of the population, and put pressure on the entrepreneur. With this approach, the 19th year will be very difficult for the population. There is a feeling that the pigs will rip off the carving this year.
              1. Conductor
                Conductor 27 December 2018 10: 42
                +1
                At one time, I fired just the same young ones, I didn’t really learn, but a lot of show-offs, I left the older ones got out, and they, too, got out young
                1. Qwertyarion
                  Qwertyarion 28 December 2018 04: 44
                  +1
                  My friend has a company
                  installation of tin structures (ventilation duct, pipe insulation), he says that his whole office is supported by two workers, one 55 years old, the second 57. Young people do not want to delve into the intricacies of working with tin, they need knowledge of geometry. Once one of these two legs broke, and the second with pneumonia fell and even close the company!
        2. Volodin
          Volodin 27 December 2018 07: 47
          +21
          Quote: Bull Terrier
          these numbers are the norm

          All you have to do is wish on New Year's Eve so that you do not personally fall into this "norm" and under this "optimization".

          And ... yes ... Just think what a person’s abbreviation means to him and his family. He is not leaving himself, he is being cut, and this is a priori blow to the family budget, the need to spend energy on the search for a new job. If in the same Moscow and St. Petersburg there are few problems with work, then in small towns, in the countryside - this is a huge problem. Moscow and Petersburg are not all of Russia.
          1. Bull Terrier
            Bull Terrier 27 December 2018 07: 50
            -14
            I feel better. I always have at least two options for employment with good conditions for me. as for thinking, well, this is how life is arranged) you just need to accept and do so to be indispensable) at least always strive for this.
            1. Dude
              Dude 27 December 2018 09: 04
              +12
              Quote: Bull Terrier
              I feel better. I always have at least two options for employment with good conditions for me. as for thinking, well, this is how life is arranged) you just need to accept and do so to be indispensable) at least always strive for this.

              Well, I met in the life of such characters, and more than once!
              What they didn’t do, they intrigued recklessly, they sat down their colleagues and set them up without a twinge of conscience, slept with their bosses (if gender and orientation allowed laughing ), regardless of the appearance, age, and degree of repugnance of the authorities wassat
              Yes, some even managed to become irreplaceable sometimes. tongue
              1. Bull Terrier
                Bull Terrier 27 December 2018 09: 06
                -9
                Actually, I said to become an excellent specialist in my field. ))) with prof. points of view)
                1. Paul Bayan
                  Paul Bayan 27 December 2018 09: 15
                  +4
                  Dry it already. Got nothing stupid special
                  1. Conductor
                    Conductor 27 December 2018 16: 23
                    +1
                    That's what you insult him)))) he's a great special.
                    1. Bull Terrier
                      Bull Terrier 27 December 2018 16: 33
                      -1
                      i am yes. I have been investing in myself for years and this is returning to me with interest. I do not drink, I do not smoke. not whining.
                      1. Conductor
                        Conductor 27 December 2018 20: 18
                        +1
                        I’m really speaking in terms of - Bake !!!!
                2. Dude
                  Dude 27 December 2018 09: 42
                  +7
                  Actually, I said to become an excellent specialist in my field. ))) with prof. points of view)

                  Yes, I understand you))) Only here are excellent specialists, no matter what, they fly out much more often from work, with any reductions than similar characters request

                  Yours vis-a-vis, It seems to me that they are trying to tell you a little different. The state should simply build an economic policy, taking into account the risks you listed, trying to minimize them. Alas, I do not see this among our leadership.
                  It’s better (and only true!) To think about how to create jobs, increase the competitiveness of the economy, increase the standard of living of people, than decide how to channel protest moods among their fellow citizens, what to do with strikes, and how to disperse demonstrations of desperate people.
                  And, IMHO, everything goes to that.
                  1. Bull Terrier
                    Bull Terrier 27 December 2018 09: 49
                    -5
                    it's hard to disagree. although I think it's not so scary. or even differently, everything is better than it seems, but you still have to plow and plow.
                    1. MKPU-115
                      MKPU-115 27 December 2018 17: 19
                      0
                      Quote: Bull Terrier
                      it's hard to disagree. although I think it's not so scary. or even differently, everything is better than it seems, but you still have to plow and plow.

                      Nothing wrong with that good , and there will be only two outputs:
                      1. World war with all the ensuing consequences;
                      2. The revolution (coup) and the big question of who they will try to raise and who will eventually come to power.
              2. Sergey M. Karasev
                Sergey M. Karasev 6 January 2019 08: 48
                0
                Well yes, Dude, how can you live life and not meet yourself
          2. Paul Bayan
            Paul Bayan 27 December 2018 09: 13
            +6
            I wish that this non-human capitalist feel what unprofitable they are writing about.
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        3. den3080
          den3080 27 December 2018 11: 10
          -3
          the states are declining. why keep extra people?

          right on Gaidar smile
          I can’t vouch for the accuracy of the quotation: “..and somewhere in the bowels of the HSE, suddenly a portrait of Gaidar was buried ...”

          author, and do not want to be among these extra people. Imagine: you are superfluous. You can hang yourself or die under the fence. Do not care. For you are superfluous.
          Great perspective, right?
    3. sergo1914
      sergo1914 27 December 2018 08: 48
      +9
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Well do capitalism damn


      I begin to suspect that what we observe in the vastness of our vast Motherland is not exactly capitalism. Rather, it’s not capitalism at all, but something earlier. And in the wildest form.
      PS "Telegram", "Red-White", ... Should a person financially rise above a certain regulatory level - clap ...
      1. Bull Terrier
        Bull Terrier 27 December 2018 08: 56
        -4
        selling alcohol is always a risk. getting hit is generally easy. striving for low prices, the owner risked on the verge of a foul. it may well be that they’ll dig such a thing in the documents that ... just this month they said on the fog of this network, everyone came to the conclusion that the owner is twisting with taxes. it’s hard for others to explain its retail prices
      2. Qwertyarion
        Qwertyarion 27 December 2018 11: 17
        +1
        Quote: sergo1914
        "Red-white", ... Should a person financially rise above a certain regulatory level - clap ...

        Indeed, such large companies have serious legal and economic services, they cannot make a grave mistake in the company’s activities, which means that the design bureaus simply press and want to take more taxes or a fine (as it happens, nothing personal is just a business).
    4. Datskiy
      Datskiy 27 December 2018 15: 09
      0
      Quote: The same Lech
      Well then do damn capitalism ... the labor market will replenish with new unemployed.
      Interestingly, the self-employed in our beautiful state are considered officially working? what

      There is no concept of self-employed in the law.
      It's generally interesting there.
  3. Conductor
    Conductor 27 December 2018 07: 10
    +5
    The government is burning again with unemployment !!! And the fact that financiers from banks will be trampled, so it will only be normal, they have bred.
    1. Altona
      Altona 27 December 2018 07: 28
      +13
      Quote: Conductor
      And the fact that financiers from banks will trample

      ----------------------
      Operation girls are likely, as online banking and distance lending are developing.
      1. Conductor
        Conductor 27 December 2018 07: 34
        +4
        Partially, in big cities, and so, I think they will trample the credit departments and everything that is not connected with the main activity. There are also enough parasites.
  4. samarin1969
    samarin1969 27 December 2018 07: 12
    +11
    Yeah, Mr. Topilin was the first to "congratulate" us ... It's strange, the oligarchs have "pluses", and the "electorate" have "minuses" ... request
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  5. Olgerd
    Olgerd 27 December 2018 07: 16
    +5
    This is all because of retirees am , they also need to work for an additional five years. Or, it’s scary to think, the government is lying to us that we have so many jobs that there is no one to work and “begged” the pensioners to work a little more. wassat
  6. parusnik
    parusnik 27 December 2018 07: 21
    +9
    We will lose jobs, and where goods come for us to arrive .. Caring for the population .. alien ..
  7. Essex62
    Essex62 27 December 2018 07: 22
    +12
    All the latest news, pleasant for people, are devoted to those who sat on the sofas and in the units and departments of the Office, in the "fortress" regime, in violation of the oath given to the Soviet people, in a certain year. Do you want jeans? Give it up.
  8. Altona
    Altona 27 December 2018 07: 26
    +14
    Putin trumped unemployment at 4,2%, while we have "self-employed" 20 million. So what is our unemployment rate with 100 million working population? There is something inconsistent with the national leader, if he drove the nation into shadow employment and hidden unemployment.
    1. ANCIENT
      ANCIENT 27 December 2018 07: 34
      -1
      And where did the figure of 20 million self-employed come from, with a collapsing economy? ?? This figure is clearly far-fetched, that is false! !!
      1. Altona
        Altona 27 December 2018 08: 09
        +1
        Quote: ANCIENT
        And where did the figure of 20 million self-employed come from, with a collapsing economy?

        ------------------------
        The self-employed is actually a synonym for the unemployed, a person employed sporadically. Where did the figure come from? Everything is from there, the Government is looking for an additional tax base, and we have these 20 million, actually 40, but if you subtract all kinds of invalids and dependents from it, you get 20 million.
        1. Consultant
          Consultant 27 December 2018 09: 42
          -2
          Quote: Altona
          Self-employed - this is actually a synonym for the unemployed, a person employed occasionally

          Experts do not agree with you:

          The Ministry of Justice offers the following definition of the concept of “self-employed” - this is an individual who independently carries out activities at his own risk based on personal labor participation in the provision of services, performance of work for individuals, aimed at the systematic receipt of profit, not registered as an individual entrepreneur, without employees

          I know a married couple from Moldova, they make repairs, they know how, practically, everything. I would not say that they work "from time to time". Here they are - self-employed.

          Another life example is two familiar drovers on long-length ones (long-length ones of their own, drove ones - father and son). There are a lot of orders, they choose, as a rule. And they, too (joke) are self-employed.

          Another time I’m telling you - learn the words, do not disgrace yes
          1. Altona
            Altona 27 December 2018 09: 46
            +3
            Quote: Consultant
            Another life example is two familiar drovers on long-length ones (long-length ones of their own, drove ones - father and son). There are a lot of orders, they choose, as a rule. And they, too (joke) are self-employed.

            Another time I’m telling you - learn the words, do not disgrace

            ----------------------------
            Going to personalities again? Do we have all 20 million working as carriers and digging in orders? In my city, two drivers in my yard thump from despair, also "self-employed".
            1. Consultant
              Consultant 27 December 2018 09: 55
              -2
              Quote: Altona
              In my city, two carriers in my yard thump with despair

              It depends on the person, you know. I also have a acquaintance with the Gazelle, and it doesn’t thump ... but lazy, like a thousand devils, and, accordingly, the Gazelle is idle. Next to those lengthy ones, by the way.

              Quote: Altona
              Do you get personal again?

              I'm correcting. Arguably, by the way laughing

              Well, here you are working as a mouthpiece, self-employed ... you can’t fake it request
              1. Altona
                Altona 27 December 2018 12: 07
                -1
                Quote: Consultant
                I'm correcting. Arguably, by the way

                -------------------
                Arguments from the "OBS" series. Somewhere three impersonal heroes work, sorry, driver. I'll give you a real fairy tale, how four self-employed Caucasians beat a policeman and took his smartphone away from him, because he stood up for a girl. And the court did not consider it necessary to arrest the proud birds of the Caucasus. If they do not respect the representative of the authority, the court does not respect the representative of the authority, then why should we respect this authority? Of course, I feel sorry for the policeman with all my heart, and he is also Russian by nationality.
                1. Consultant
                  Consultant 27 December 2018 12: 32
                  -3
                  Quote: Altona
                  Somewhere work three impersonal heroes, sorry, driver

                  Two.

                  Give you a photo, car numbers, home address? It needs the consent of people, otherwise nothing.

                  With the same success, almost everything you write here is also

                  Quote: Altona
                  Arguments from the "OBS" series

                  Quote: Altona
                  I'll throw you a real fairy tale

                  Which is no side to the issue under discussion. The erosion of the subject of discussion is the second sign of trolling. Will you be one of them, Altona? wink
                  1. Altona
                    Altona 27 December 2018 12: 46
                    0
                    Quote: Consultant
                    Two.

                    Give you a photo, car numbers, home address? It needs the consent of people, otherwise nothing.

                    ----------------------------
                    I don't need this, the third hero, as I understand it, is on your Gazelle. It's just that you are talking about impersonal people, Mr. unfounded troll, denying reality. And here are the facts about "self-employed" citizens from the Caucasus. And why is it no sideways? Citizens live on something and lead an antisocial lifestyle. So here you are wrong, Mr. Consultant, denying life in its diversity. By the way, here is another self-employed person whom our state generously sponsored until the last moment. But for a single picket he was even imprisoned for 15 days.
                    1. Consultant
                      Consultant 27 December 2018 13: 27
                      -4
                      Quote: Altona
                      we are talking about depersonalized people

                      We are talking about completely specific people. But they somehow did not authorize me to publish their coordinates in order to convince blogger Altona of their "reality". They don’t believe it, they don’t even know who he is belay

                      Quote: Altona
                      And here are the facts about "self-employed" citizens from the Caucasus. And why is it no sideways?

                      Because they are related to the self-employed only insofar as you have decided so. Unconvincing you know request

                      Quote: Altona
                      mister unfounded troll

                      Convinced at last. Here you are, he is yes
                      1. Altona
                        Altona 27 December 2018 13: 30
                        -1
                        Quote: Consultant
                        We are talking about completely specific people. But they somehow did not authorize me to publish their coordinates in order to convince blogger Altona of their "reality". They don’t believe it, they don’t even know who he is

                        -------------------------
                        That is, you insist on your unfoundedness. I already told you that I don’t care who you are trying to cite as an example, constantly allegedly opposing me. Either your truckers or gazelists, I don’t care. Any taxi driver bombing is already self-employed, regardless of whether he has passengers in the wild such competition at the station or not. And as for whom I decided, it's none of your business. In Moscow, a lot of people are hanging out, it is not clear what is living and they are not obliged to disclose to me the sources of their income, although it is so clear that they have very criminal behavior.
          2. Conductor
            Conductor 27 December 2018 15: 52
            +1
            Dear, if (she) legally deducts taxes, he is no longer self-employed, they are trying to pull those out of the shadows. who does not want to pay
    2. Conductor
      Conductor 27 December 2018 07: 36
      +8
      He has these inconsistencies in domestic social and economic policy, it consists almost of all of them
    3. Consultant
      Consultant 27 December 2018 07: 38
      -9
      Quote: Altona
      inconsistency of the national leader, if he drove the nation into shadow employment and hidden unemployment

      Two to you in Russian.

      Self-employed is not unemployed. Here, as an example, such Vadim wanders, he, too, is self-employed.
      Self-employed is not always a "black worker". Those who work for tax will prefer to be registered as unemployed so that tax issues do not arise.

      So the "inconsistency" (as usual, however) - it is like you.

      Learn the words yes
      1. Altona
        Altona 27 December 2018 08: 11
        +3
        Quote: Consultant
        Self-employed is not always a "black worker". Those who work for tax will prefer to be registered as unemployed so that tax issues do not arise.

        So the "inconsistency" (as usual, however) - it is like you.

        --------------------------
        So I look, you are such a self-employed troll. How much do you get paid in the Kremlin? laughing laughing
        1. Conductor
          Conductor 27 December 2018 08: 53
          +5
          C'mon, it works !!! There, Surkova, they say you can meet Jean Jacques in a hipster's room at 3 at night, and he also works there, eats and works.
        2. Consultant
          Consultant 27 December 2018 09: 37
          +2
          Quote: Altona
          I look, you are so self-employed troll

          Transferring the discussion to the opponent’s personality is a sure sign of trolling. So the troll is here you, Altona request

          Quote: Altona
          How much do you get paid in the Kremlin?

          Svarog works in the Kremlin, and take an interest in him laughing
          1. Altona
            Altona 27 December 2018 09: 39
            -1
            Quote: Consultant
            Transferring the discussion to the opponent’s personality is a sure sign of trolling. So the troll is here you, Altona

            ------------------------------
            Quote: Consultant
            Learn the words
            -This is certainly not a transition to personality? This is the end. Learn to refrain from rudeness and you will not fly back.
            1. Consultant
              Consultant 27 December 2018 10: 50
              -3
              Quote: Altona
              Is this certainly not a transition to personality?

              Well, of course, this is not a transition to the individual. This is just an attempt to draw your highest attention to the fact that you deigned (for the umpteenth time) to use a word without asking about it, the word, its meaning.

              Quote: Altona
              Learn to refrain from rudeness

              I’m taking an example from you, Oh, the brightest of bloggers laughing

              Quote: Altona
              and you will not fly back

              Take care of yourself, but somehow I’m without an ensemble ...
          2. Conductor
            Conductor 27 December 2018 10: 12
            -1
            Where do you work? Specify the whole list, please (c)
            1. Conductor
              Conductor 27 December 2018 14: 10
              +1
              Shaw was upset! Sayochka for fear.
      2. Conductor
        Conductor 27 December 2018 08: 27
        -1
        According to the adopted amendments to the Tax Code of the Russian Federation, self-employed citizens who provide services to an individual for personal, household and (or) other similar needs, it is necessary to register with the tax authority at the place of residence (place of residence - if the individual has no place of residence on the territory of the Russian Federation) of this individual on the basis of the corresponding notification on the implementation of such activities submitted by him to the tax authority. The exception is foreign citizens engaged in the employment of individuals (Article 227.1 of the Tax Code). That is, according to the Tax Code, he is no longer unemployed, but he has registered with the tax authorities and pays taxes. There are such people, but there are not many of them. Moreover, note the restriction on the services of self-employed. But most of the so-called self-employed do not think anywhere to register. From the same nannies, tutors, translators, and so on and de jure, they are unemployed. Learn the materiel. Kremlebotik)))))
        1. Antares
          Antares 27 December 2018 11: 28
          +4
          Quote: Conductor
          According to the adopted amendments to the Tax Code of the Russian Federation

          and why did I understand the following dialogue
          - Neighbor, help me fix the tap
          - Wait a minute, now I’ll be registered and as soon as they are allowed, so right away.

          Now I understand the deep meaning of the expression
          -Free dad does not kiss mom.
          Same services now.
          Although maybe I misunderstood?
          1. Conductor
            Conductor 27 December 2018 14: 03
            +1
            You understood this very simplistically, but you caught the essence, everything that you earned is taxed yourself, kiss and serve relatives for free. And neither nor neither, the tax penny to the state, it’s for you.
        2. Conductor
          Conductor 27 December 2018 14: 18
          +2
          For people like you, tax all students over the hill (except the Eurasian Economic Community) with a tax of 10% of the annual tuition fees, the money will go to our tuition
  9. rocket757
    rocket757 27 December 2018 07: 31
    +7
    It’s clear that a hard worker will not sit on the Internet for days on end! Yes, and not all employees are there, they hang ... so which of those present can \ if they are affected by the upcoming reduction ???
    The Ministry of Labor type hints so streamlined that this is not about hard workers in general !!! if you believe \ check someone hinting at?
    Interestingly, and who is lying to us the most?
    1. AUL
      AUL 27 December 2018 08: 11
      +4
      Interestingly, and the bureaucracy will not cover unemployment? Not?
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 27 December 2018 08: 25
        +5
        Quote: AUL
        Interestingly, and the bureaucracy will not cover unemployment? Not?

        Yes, not a damn !!! Who will fire them, they, they, !!!! yes the salt of the earth rus .... tfu, a little seditious did not write! in short, the essence of our government, more officials everywhere and different !!!
      2. Tank hard
        Tank hard 27 December 2018 08: 51
        +4
        Quote: AUL

        Interestingly, and the bureaucracy will not cover unemployment? Not

        And there are different officials, for example, take the registry or cadastre, the employees there are also officials, and the salaries are just pretty penny ... The turnover is huge, because mostly young people come, they do not have enough salaries. Well, and then another point, with such a salary, at such a job someone else wonders why corruption ...
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 27 December 2018 09: 03
          +6
          Quote: Tank Hard
          there are different officials, take for example the registry or cadastre, the employees there are also officials, and the salaries are just penny ..

          Absolutely AHA! There are all sorts of little things that you have to work for yourself and for that steam ... gentleman, and salaries are not ah! Even for the sake of some kind of benefits, then, the young people do not really stay there. if there is no side income .... unless retirees and mothers are on maintenance!
          We already have such a bzik, bring everyone together in one pile, because we face different ones and, as a rule, we transfer everything bad to everyone! Not without reason, however!
          1. Tank hard
            Tank hard 27 December 2018 09: 22
            +5
            Quote: rocket757
            We already have such a freak

            Exactly. To put on a position and not pay normally. And then "courageously" to fight corruption, for example. yes
      3. Conductor
        Conductor 27 December 2018 08: 55
        +3
        Will cover, but not filled staffing units, basically.
    2. Conductor
      Conductor 27 December 2018 08: 51
      +5
      Rosstat is lying most of all, but its head has been changed)))))
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 27 December 2018 09: 04
        +4
        Quote: Conductor
        Rosstat is lying most of all, but its head has been changed)))))

        And now he will lie less ??? Or just more beautiful, veiled?
        1. Conductor
          Conductor 27 December 2018 09: 41
          +3
          So you asked a question, I even scratched myself in the most immodest places, it will be a lie, but how? Carl, much more lies
        2. Dude
          Dude 27 December 2018 09: 56
          +4
          Quote: rocket757
          Quote: Conductor
          Rosstat is lying most of all, but its head has been changed)))))

          And now he will lie less ??? Or just more beautiful, veiled?

          No, statistics, by definition, cannot lie! "There is a lie, there is a blatant lie, .." (c) laughing
          1. Conductor
            Conductor 27 December 2018 10: 09
            +3
            They think about the new mechanisms of lies !! 1 IMHO
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 27 December 2018 10: 15
              +2
              I listened to Satanovsky about replacements in Rossvra .......! I completely agree with him!
              At the expense of truthfulness, everything is clear, but they will lick it, sweeten it, it was pleasant to the top Schaub!
  10. ANCIENT
    ANCIENT 27 December 2018 07: 32
    +12
    I remember that in the Kremlin, one high rank scared the country with 24 million new high-tech jobs. If only they would tell the country right away that they had read a fairy tale to us. ....
    1. Conductor
      Conductor 27 December 2018 08: 29
      +7
      it was voiced 25 !! 000 Where did you divide the Moulin?
  11. Million
    Million 27 December 2018 07: 39
    +15
    Where the guarantor promised 25 million high-tech jobs ?????
    PS. All the same yap!
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    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 27 December 2018 10: 13
      -12
      To create 25 million high-tech jobs - you need to find 25 million highly skilled workers - all highly skilled workers have been working for a long time, but you can’t put anyone in these places.
      1. Vlad 63
        Vlad 63 27 December 2018 10: 39
        +9
        Highly skilled workers, probably, are born already with crusts and with a quality mark on the buttock? When the first person in the state announces plans to introduce 1 million new high-tech jobs, the idea that these 25 million should be trained in no less high-tech educational institutions with the same teaching staff and so on should have at least flickered in his birdhouse.
        1. Conductor
          Conductor 27 December 2018 14: 06
          +3
          Duc whispered to him AP, and those from where they know what and how on the Russian land.
      2. Conductor
        Conductor 27 December 2018 15: 58
        +2
        As anyhow you can’t put it !!!!! Zolotov, Miller, Gref, Nabiullina, Chubais, Sechin, Naryshkin, Volodin, Matvienko, Kudrin Rogozin, wherever you put it, it smells like feces everywhere
  12. Conductor
    Conductor 27 December 2018 07: 41
    +7
    In July of this year, when I was in the Russian Federation and in Krasnodar and in Rostov, I saw a noteworthy announcement in migrants. foreign citizens working on work permits to pay the "tax" from May to August 2018 at a time (and this is just over 4000 rubles a month) I have a friend in the migration office, asked why? World Cup, we beat off the grandmother.
  13. bessmertniy
    bessmertniy 27 December 2018 07: 43
    +12
    Thanks to pension reform, the number of unemployed should increase by several million people. Our government first needs to provide people with work, and then raise the retirement age. Moreover, we have so, if a person is well preserved, then he continued to work without raising the retirement age.
  14. Mamuka Petrovich
    Mamuka Petrovich 27 December 2018 07: 51
    +8
    It will be hard to modify an ordinary person (not a bureaucrat) to 65 years.
  15. ochakow703
    ochakow703 27 December 2018 08: 01
    +7
    "During the press conference, the Russian president noted that unemployment in Russia has reached an all-time low."
    So they decided to quickly fix it. The guarantor said that something is not enough, bureaucrats have not even realized what, and there are few unemployed? ... and let's fix it!
    I especially like the reduction in the field of computer engineering and electrical engineering. What, probably, the Chinese have opened a couple of new factories in this area?
    1. Dude
      Dude 27 December 2018 10: 01
      +4
      I especially like the reduction in the field of computer engineering and electrical engineering.

      This is, in general, a cherry on the cake! Like transport.
  16. LAWNER
    LAWNER 27 December 2018 08: 05
    +9
    I remember so the accounting at the Ministry of Internal Affairs was reduced ... 50-60 year-old ladies wrote an application for transfer to district police officers .... Now the district police officers are full, but they are also engaged in accounting.
    1. Conductor
      Conductor 27 December 2018 08: 30
      +3
      So what is it that they certified for officer posts?
  17. AlexVas44
    AlexVas44 27 December 2018 08: 13
    +6
    ... more than 230 thousand Russian citizens by March 12, 2019 may become unemployed.

    Interesting, however, disheartening news. But this is about the Russians, but what about the contingent from abroad? Or is the list of their specialties not among those subject to reduction? What then will the future unemployed do?
  18. Ural-4320
    Ural-4320 27 December 2018 08: 26
    0
    Quote: The same Lech
    Well then do damn capitalism ... the labor market will replenish with new unemployed.
    Interestingly, the self-employed in our beautiful state are considered officially working? what

    So the self-employed are offered to get out of the shadows for 4% if they work with physicists and for 6% if they work with lyricists, ugh, with lawyers.
    1. Conductor
      Conductor 27 December 2018 08: 58
      +3
      A valid typo with lyrics)))) So they don’t want to get out of the shadows, today 4 and 6% and tomorrow? Tax maneuver?
  19. sergo1914
    sergo1914 27 December 2018 08: 54
    +3
    Just juxtaposed two news
    1. "In Russia, it is planned to abolish the current ban on the cultivation of narcotic plants for the production and manufacture of narcotic drugs, psychotropic substances for medical purposes. The corresponding bill, as confirmed to the" Rossiyskaya Gazeta "in the Ministry of Industry and Trade of Russia, has been approved by interested executive authorities and submitted to the government of the Russian Federation . "
    2. "According to the forecast presented by the Ministry of Labor and Social Protection of the Russian Federation, more than 230 thousand citizens of Russia may become unemployed by March 12, 2019."


    Hmm ... And here my fantasy falls silent.
  20. Ural-4320
    Ural-4320 27 December 2018 09: 09
    +2
    Quote: Conductor
    A valid typo with lyrics)))) So they don’t want to get out of the shadows, today 4 and 6% and tomorrow? Tax maneuver?

    And tomorrow he told the state that it was unprofitable and stopped work. But for many, this legalization "for inexpensive" only plays into the hands. To owners renting out housing at a minimum. Gazelle worker, shabashnik TV technician / welder / plumber.
    1. Massimo
      Massimo 27 December 2018 17: 18
      +1
      In the course of our state, it happens, at first 4%, and then they will fumigate as much as they like.
      1. Conductor
        Conductor 27 December 2018 20: 29
        +1
        Here is the Urals, and that’s Yu’s answer. The pension guarantor promised not to raise, but it didn’t work out, but to raise taxes from 6 to 12%))))) The war is nonsense, the main maneuvers))))
  21. sgr291158
    sgr291158 27 December 2018 09: 16
    +3
    Happy New Year comrades! Life is getting better and better.
  22. Mestny
    Mestny 27 December 2018 10: 54
    -4
    There is an excellent quote for those who are crying in chorus sobbing here: "If they beat you, you will cry."
    More precisely, not even for them. but for normal. those who read it.
  23. spektr9
    spektr9 27 December 2018 11: 23
    0
    A large number of layoffs is also expected in the area involved in the production of computers and electrical equipment - 16,6 thousand people

    Yes, and so the half-dead industry will now be completely dead
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  25. Nestorych
    Nestorych 27 December 2018 11: 56
    +2
    Kaaaaaak, the economy is growing in the TV set.))))
    1. Conductor
      Conductor 27 December 2018 16: 04
      +1
      On TV, how pensioners live !!!! Wow !!!! I even called my ex-mother-in-law, I wanted to be glad (0))))))))))
  26. brn521
    brn521 27 December 2018 12: 25
    +3
    During the press conference, the Russian president noted that unemployment in Russia had reached a record low.

    Well, yes, what else are unemployed? Officially, these are now self-employed who need to be caught and forced to pay taxes.
    1. Conductor
      Conductor 27 December 2018 16: 31
      +1
      Yes, and the administrator can sew, the prosecutor’s office and the police and police must somehow work
  27. Tavrik
    Tavrik 27 December 2018 12: 47
    +3
    "A large number of layoffs are expected in the field of production of computers and electrical equipment - 16,6 thousand people."
    Those. and so the production of computer technology was at a level slightly lower than nothing, and now it will be even less. Developed ...
  28. sniperino
    sniperino 27 December 2018 12: 55
    -3
    The article does not even hint that the total number of jobs in the country will be less, or even that in 2019 there will be at least one more unemployed in the country than it was in 2018, but how local commentators got excited ...
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      1. sniperino
        sniperino 27 December 2018 16: 44
        -1
        Quote: Conductor
        We are you. (with). Rally Garant !!!
        Relief! If I understood correctly, you have serious problems with bowel movements.
  29. Zomanus
    Zomanus 27 December 2018 14: 26
    0
    So what. Put a line of processing cents,
    that does not need a turning-milling machine.
    About the financial sector there, the offices of some banks are closing.
    If you read the site "Made by us", then it is quite modern
    production cost a very small number of people.
  30. Igor Borisov_2
    Igor Borisov_2 27 December 2018 14: 45
    0
    The Central Bank revoked the licenses of the largest forex dealers in Russia, including Alpari Forex, Teletrade Group and Forex Club. This was reported on the website of the regulator. RBC sent inquiries to the Central Bank, Alpari, Forex Club and Teletrade Group
    When until the last day the advertising of "Invest-Bank" continued on which the Central Bank had been investigating it for 6 months, what is it called ????? I personally witnessed when a man fainted when he learned that out of 2 million he would receive 750 thousand. Legalized taking of money from the population .............
  31. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 27 December 2018 15: 04
    +2
    Quote: Vlad 63
    The 19th year will be very difficult for the population. There is a feeling that this year’s pigs will break the thread.

    Not until the year 2025 our foul power still makes fun of the people.
  32. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 27 December 2018 19: 49
    +1
    According to the forecast presented by the Ministry of Labor and Social Protection of the Russian Federation, more than 230 thousand Russian citizens may become unemployed by March 12, 2019.

    What a manufacturing surprise! fellow
    Today in the news they told how in the Leninsk-Kuznetsky district, on the basis of the previously mothballed Kuzbassavto enterprise, a workshop for assembling buses of the world famous Yutong brand was solemnly launched. The turnover of the manufacturing enterprise is 2 thousand buses per year. This will create more 100 new jobs. Who wants to know the details:
    http://kuzpress.ru/innovation/27-12-2018/64852.html
    And as a result of the closure of enterprises in Kemerovo: KShT, ZHV, ZZhBK, Aniline Paint Plant, Karbolit, KEMZ, Progress (MIC), at least 15 workers were dismissed ... In short, we are going overfulfilled the plan ...
    1. Conductor
      Conductor 27 December 2018 20: 33
      +1
      Pennant the leader of the capitalist labor of the Region in his hands. Bonus titanium helmet. Miners can not pound the bridge.
  33. Alexander X
    Alexander X 27 December 2018 20: 23
    +2
    Quote: 16112014nk
    Not until the year 2025 our foul power still makes fun of the people.

    And then there will be good power? And what needs to be done so that we have good power? I don’t jerk ..
  34. Tomich3
    Tomich3 27 December 2018 20: 27
    0
    the whole site believed in the best, but he was deceived)) it will only get worse, you can not check)))
  35. Hello again
    Hello again 27 December 2018 22: 50
    0
    balabol our president, in the letter p ...
  36. bolt
    bolt 28 December 2018 18: 07
    0
    The whole article is complete nonsense. The figure is obvious bullshit. What can be discussed chokingly?