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Putin and Lukashenko held four-hour negotiations on the prices of oil and gas

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The presidents of Russia and Belarus, Vladimir Putin and Alexander Lukashenko, held talks in the Kremlin that lasted around 4 hours, reports RIA News.




As the Minister of Finance of the Russian Federation Anton Siluanov said, the meeting discussed the changes that will occur in Russian tax legislation, and joint plans to change taxation.

Including discussed issues of joint action in the field of pricing for gas and other energy resources. The leaders of the countries agreed on a rapprochement of positions in all discussed areas.

According to the minister, a working group will be created at the government level to find solutions, which will prepare proposals for the further integration of the two countries.

The presidents also discussed gas prices. Lukashenko was unable to obtain a revision of the cost of fossil fuels to be supplied in 2019.

On the issue of gas pricing, the parties should decide on the next period and, starting from 2020, develop proposals for pricing this type of fuel,
said Siluanov.

The leaders of the countries have agreed on another meeting, which is to be held before the New Year. It is planned to take decisions on issues that are “not urgent.”

As the Belarusian television explained, this is connected, first of all, with the fact that Vladimir Putin wants to sort out the problems in more detail in order to find the right solution.

Recall, on the eve of the meeting, Belarusian Deputy Prime Minister Igor Lyashenko said that Minsk had hoped to get compensation from Moscow because of the implementation of a tax maneuver of about $ 310 in 2019, with oil prices of $ 60 per barrel. However, the Russian side refused to discuss this issue and did not offer any alternatives in return.
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    1. Hagalaz
      Hagalaz 26 December 2018 09: 30
      +5
      Lukashenko said he could not consider Russia a fraternal STATE. The people and the state are different categories. I don’t feel warm feelings for Lukashenko, but for the sake of justice.
      1. passerby
        passerby 26 December 2018 10: 05
        +8
        This is called verbiage. How can it be a fraternal state, which inhabits the fraternal people, supporting the head of state?
        1. Berber
          Berber 26 December 2018 10: 40
          +11
          I agree absolutely. To be honest, this naive "collective farm chairman" got it. He has one merit - in the 90s he did not let it slide into "chaos", and that's it. They remain in this state to this day. And the state needs to develop.
          1. Victor jnnjdfy
            Victor jnnjdfy 26 December 2018 11: 50
            +4
            There is now a different state. The Soviet legacy has already been eaten, digested ..., the state is in debt, the workers of the ideological front lie so that the Party organizer of the times of the late Union could not have dreamed, and simple Belarusian workers (those who have not yet escaped from the country) plow, tired of this lie, like serfs.
            1. Berber
              Berber 26 December 2018 14: 03
              +1
              What am I doing? Moreover, the local republican kings (former republics of the USSR, and without exception) did not cope with their task. Remained at the level of local grabbers. There is no state thinking.
              It's time to "empire" or the USSR.
              1. Victor jnnjdfy
                Victor jnnjdfy 26 December 2018 15: 40
                0
                The Republic of Belarus (so correct in the local Belarusian Russian state language) as a state did not take place. There, in 91, instead of the name Belarus, which is correct in accordance with the rules of grammar of the Russian language, Belarus was introduced by law, but at the same time Belarusian and Belarusian were left. "As you call the schooner, so it will float ....". As with / in Ukraine.
                AHL needs only personal power. In a way, this all reminds Kazakhstan. There, however, they did not think of the Order of Lukashenko.
        2. Hagalaz
          Hagalaz 26 December 2018 10: 46
          -4
          Let's not touch on who supports whom here. Separate topic. Very many will not agree with you. And if you personally associate yourself with those people who rule our country, read the power / state, then again, not everyone will agree with you, including me. Before writing, you would look into the dictionary and find the word state (the word people is not mentioned there nirazu) and verbiage from your comment would not work.
        3. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 26 December 2018 11: 06
          +5
          Quote: passerby
          This is called verbiage. How can it be a fraternal state, which inhabits the fraternal people, supporting the head of state?

          One such state already exists ..... Urkain is called request Who would have thought....
        4. Hypersound
          Hypersound 26 December 2018 11: 08
          -1
          Quote: passerby
          This is called verbiage. How can it be a fraternal state, which inhabits the fraternal people, supporting the head of state?


          An example of beauty before the eyes
          1. passerby
            passerby 26 December 2018 11: 12
            0
            What an example is this if Poroshenko’s support level is so low that his chances of getting into the second round of elections, not to mention winning, are very, very illusive.
      2. private person
        private person 26 December 2018 14: 10
        0
        compensation from Moscow due to the implementation of a tax maneuver of about $ 310 in 2019 at an oil price of $ 60 per barrel. However, the Russian side refused

        Please explain what these figures mean? 310 with an oil price of 60, this is what Russia should pay for its oil, too, and it’s not sickly.
      3. Nikolai Kireyev
        Nikolai Kireyev 26 December 2018 14: 26
        0
        Belarus lives at the expense of Russia, and no money is spent on a single region like Belarus. That’s why the standard of living is really higher there, they don’t give anything in return. At the same time, the nose is also turned. It’s time to learn to live or join Russia ourselves. Lukashenko had to change for a long time. Above the level of the chairman of the collective farm, he never rose.
      4. viralig
        viralig 26 December 2018 14: 31
        0
        Believe him, these categories are equivalent. In general, he would have ground less with a tongue to no avail, and more fulfilled those promises that he makes. And the current often says the exact opposite things - it all depends on the target audience.
    2. 79807420129
      79807420129 26 December 2018 09: 35
      +6
      On the issue of gas pricing, the parties should decide for the next period and, starting in 2020, develop proposals for pricing this type of fuel

      And in the sequel added
      First Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian government and Minister of Finance of Russia Anton Siluanov said that in the Kremlin, confidence in Belarus as an ally has been lost.

      “We say: one cannot be one-sided, one-sided benefits are. You are our neighbor, our ally under the Union Treaty, but recently trust has been lost, ”Siluanov said.

      The minister recalled about “all these solvents”, “sanctions”, “low-grade cigarettes” illegally entering the Russian market from Belarus.

      “Relations should be equally beneficial, we are not brothers enough to give all our subsidies,” Siluanov explained.

      The day before, the leader of Belarus at a meeting on topical issues of cooperation with Moscow proposed not to call Russia a fraternal state, since relations between the two countries began to be perceived differently.

      “I don’t speak yet as a fraternal state, because, as they inform me, this is not perceived in Russia. Ostensibly new people came to whom this concept is unacceptable. Well, we will be partners, ”the president said.

      Russian President’s spokesman Dmitry Peskov said the Kremlin believes Lukashenko’s words were taken out of context.

      Recall that today in Moscow are going through the most difficult negotiations between Lukashenko and Putin on compensation for the tax maneuver. Minsk is trying to get over $ 300 million from Moscow. Russian Finance Minister Anton Siluanov claims that the Kremlin has not made any promises to Belarus.

      “We are not going to call this compensation. If there is anything, then within the framework of support in the face of a difficult situation, ”the minister emphasized.

      http://anna-news.info/siluanov-v-kremle-utratili-doverie-k-belarusi/
      1. Evdokim
        Evdokim 26 December 2018 10: 07
        +9
        Quote: 79807420129
        The day before, the leader of Belarus at a meeting on topical issues of cooperation with Moscow proposed not to call Russia a fraternal state,

        Belarus, Lukashenko, if you want to be an ally, friend, be him, not a cunning partner. hi
    3. passerby
      passerby 26 December 2018 10: 02
      0
      To drive this Lukashenko into the neck, let him go begging the fraternal people, and here, as he said, they’re partners.
      1. Letun
        Letun 26 December 2018 10: 09
        -1
        Quote: passerby
        To drive this Lukashenko into the neck, let him go begging the fraternal people, and here, as he said, they’re partners.

        To drive! Drive him! Only then do not be indignant when NATO builds its bases near Smolensk, or sets up another missile defense system.
        1. BecmepH
          BecmepH 26 December 2018 10: 31
          +2
          Quote: Letun
          Quote: passerby
          To drive this Lukashenko into the neck, let him go begging the fraternal people, and here, as he said, they’re partners.

          To drive! Drive him! Only then do not be indignant when NATO builds its bases near Smolensk, or sets up another missile defense system.

          300 km closer, 300 km further ... What will it give?
          1. Letun
            Letun 26 December 2018 10: 42
            +2
            Quote: BecmepH
            300 km closer, 300 km further ... What will it give?

            In! You can immediately see a military expert visiting a thematic site! lol
            Do not remember how many kilometers the Germans did not reach Moscow and Leningrad in the 41st? But for you it’s clear, 300 km, these are two bast shoes on the map laughing
            1. BecmepH
              BecmepH 26 December 2018 10: 56
              +4
              Quote: Letun
              Quote: BecmepH
              300 km closer, 300 km further ... What will it give?

              In! You can immediately see a military expert visiting a thematic site! lol
              Do not remember how many kilometers the Germans did not reach Moscow and Leningrad in the 41st? But for you it’s clear, 300 km, these are two bast shoes on the map laughing
              Two bast shoes on the map is a lot. A 300 km minuscule for modern weapons. Even an expert does not need to be in order to know this.
              I know how close the Germans were to Moscow. I know from the words of the participant in those events. So close that history is silent about this.
              But now they don't walk, they fly. And these 300 km for "flyers" - ugh .. Or do you still think that the enemy with the M16 at the ready and bending down will secretly make his way to the Moscow Ring Road?
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              2. not main
                not main 26 December 2018 21: 44
                0
                Quote: BecmepH
                But now they don't walk, they fly. And these 300 km for "flyers" - ugh .. Or do you still think that the enemy with the M16 at the ready and bending down will secretly make his way to the Moscow Ring Road?

                No, I think that "flight time" means a lot, but here seconds can decide! So, 300 km is a very powerful argument for NATO! It's the same for us! Damn the "tagged" one who pushed NATO so close to our borders! (in the company of him and Shevornadze something else ...)
                1. BecmepH
                  BecmepH 27 December 2018 10: 12
                  +1
                  Quote: non-primary
                  Quote: BecmepH
                  But now they don't walk, they fly. And these 300 km for "flyers" - ugh .. Or do you still think that the enemy with the M16 at the ready and bending down will secretly make his way to the Moscow Ring Road?

                  No, I think that "flight time" means a lot, but here seconds can decide! So, 300 km is a very powerful argument for NATO! It's the same for us! Damn the "tagged" one who pushed NATO so close to our borders! (in the company of him and Shevornadze something else ...)

                  Yes, I agree with you on this.
        2. Astoria
          Astoria 26 December 2018 10: 47
          +4
          when NATO builds its bases near Smolensk, or sets up another missile defense system
          - for such conversations from 6 regions in Belarus there can only be three laughing
        3. passerby
          passerby 26 December 2018 11: 04
          0
          I don’t see any difference between the NATO bases in the Baltic states and Poland and for example near Minsk, but for the $ 100 billion Russia spent on 10 years for Lukashenko and Belarus, at least 10 Ash-type nuclear submarines could be built in the same 25 years, here it would be a real contribution to the defense capability of Russia.
          1. Hypersound
            Hypersound 26 December 2018 11: 11
            0
            So Belarus will become part of the Russian Federation, so it was an investment in its own territory. It’s another matter that I also support an increase in the military budget: our developments are cool, but the situation is not so optimistic in terms of the number of new weapons and / or terms
        4. Winnie76
          Winnie76 26 December 2018 13: 07
          +5
          Quote: Letun
          To drive! Drive him! Only then do not be indignant when NATO builds its bases near Smolensk, or sets up another missile defense system.

          Oh my god, Lukashenko will set up bases. What to do, where to run?
          And, I know ... To begin with, take Belarus to its full contentment. Provide Belarus oil refineries with free oil, and all other refineries with free gas. And it’s even better for us to pay extra, otherwise Lukashenko will be offended.

          Pensions and salaries of Belarusians to increase 10 times. Due to the Russian budget, which is a pity to us, we are still stealing ourselves. But Belarus as Ukraine will not lose. This is an outpost and all that. They can take offense and run away to Europe with Nata, from us such unwashed and clumsy
        5. viralig
          viralig 26 December 2018 14: 46
          0
          This is unlikely, he perfectly understands that if he rushes there, he will lose a heated seat in the next elections. There they will find other more loyal applicants for this place, and 90% will definitely "not vote" for it. So he is spinning now, which is already in the pan. He sees that he needs to take either side, but there is no desire, and therefore he jokes, "blackmails", etc. He tries to bargain for better conditions. It is not for nothing that relatively recently the phrase slipped that we could lose our statehood. And the most offensive thing is that he himself led to this. Building socialism in capitalism. The result is socialism to those close to you, "slavery" to everyone else.
  2. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 26 December 2018 09: 17
    +5
    I think there will be a compromise. Two fraternal countries cannot quarrel over economic disagreements. There are too many problems around our countries, which would still cause a showdown between themselves.
    1. 41 REGION
      41 REGION 26 December 2018 09: 34
      +4
      There is always a compromise if both sides good it’s not tricky to quarrel yes , but come to a decision that will not suit everyone request
    2. Cheslav Tsursky
      Cheslav Tsursky 26 December 2018 09: 34
      +19
      Alexey, this is not an economic disagreement. The question is about keeping the Belarusian economy afloat i.e. on the actual provision of gratuitous assistance on a regular basis. The people are not fraternal, but the people are Russian. the existence of such countries is also nonsense, but for now, we have what we have. If the leadership of this country does not have the opportunity to refuse regular requests for funds and concessions, then the giving hand has the right to count on the appropriate attitude of the debtors. So? And here the whole field for brotherhood begins and you need to start with the recognition of the Crimea and the base of the Russian Aerospace Forces ... Am I rightly arguing?
      1. bouncyhunter
        bouncyhunter 26 December 2018 09: 47
        +10
        Quote: Cheslav Czursky
        Am I reasoning right?

        From my point of view, everything is correct. I, of course, understand that Father is defending his interests. But the principle "eat a fish and sit in a chair" no longer works as before. So they will negotiate.
        1. 79807420129
          79807420129 26 December 2018 09: 54
          +5
          Quote: bouncyhunter
          So they will agree

          Yes, God forbid Pasha, and we were always together in sorrow and joy, but they seem to get all the Batikins. hi
          1. bouncyhunter
            bouncyhunter 26 December 2018 09: 58
            +6
            Quote: 79807420129
            already seem to get all the Batikins

            That's it. Exorbitant ambitions are not brought to good. And it’s okay only for himself, because Belarus drags along ...
        2. Cheslav Tsursky
          Cheslav Tsursky 26 December 2018 10: 01
          +6
          Pavel, this is a normal question and no offense. Interests can be mutually interesting, rather than tricky. And it turns out that Lukashenko really only has his own interests. I would even say very mine. After all, your father doesn’t care, how does pricing in the regions actually take place in Russia? He wants energy, as in Smolensk! Well, actually welcome to Smolensk welcome to Russia! What questions? And if not, then I wrote above, then. Well, if even then no then it’s all actually the problems of the Belarusian people - do they like it all or something serious needs to be changed here ...
          1. bouncyhunter
            bouncyhunter 26 December 2018 10: 07
            +1
            Actually, I’m talking about the same thing, Cheslav. Wishlist - Wishlist, but the measure must be known and do not forget about conscience. This applies to all parties to any agreements, and not just Russia and Belarus.
            1. Cheslav Tsursky
              Cheslav Tsursky 26 December 2018 10: 34
              +6
              Pavel, I hope you will not deny that we are one people? Well then, why then is all this craftiness - autocracy, union states? Native people should live in a family! Russian people in the Russian state. That's all. This is what we should strive for. This is Russian truth! Everything else is cunning and betrayal.
              1. bouncyhunter
                bouncyhunter 26 December 2018 10: 41
                +3
                I have said more than once, and I will repeat more than once: for me, Russians and Belarusians are one people. Russia and Belarus should be together, and not separately. But, unfortunately, not everyone thinks so. Both in Russia and in Belarus ...
                1. Astoria
                  Astoria 26 December 2018 10: 57
                  +3
                  And who is against it? laughing But Russia should not pay for it hi
                2. Cheslav Tsursky
                  Cheslav Tsursky 26 December 2018 11: 03
                  +2
                  Quote: bouncyhunter
                  I have said more than once, and I will repeat more than once: for me, Russians and Belarusians are one people. Russia and Belarus should be together, and not separately. But, unfortunately, not everyone thinks so. Both in Russia and in Belarus ...

                  Why do we need everything? The vast majority thinks like you and me! But the aggressive minority made the Russian people the largest divided people in the world. We have to fix it. Both you and I are each in their place. This is not enough.
                  1. bouncyhunter
                    bouncyhunter 26 December 2018 11: 12
                    +2
                    Quote: Cheslav Czursky
                    We have to fix it. Both you and I are each in their place. This is not enough.

                    Do you have any ideas for this kind of action? For example, I don't have them. But father clearly said that there would be no unification with Russia, and this point of view would be supported by the security forces because of the Oath. And this despite the fact that all oppos and "zmagarou" who scream the same as in the 404th, we mercilessly ache (and they are doing the right thing, I think).
                    1. Cheslav Tsursky
                      Cheslav Tsursky 26 December 2018 12: 08
                      +2
                      Pavel, I often communicate with Belarusians. And with people holding certain posts. Naturally, I have a certain circle of friends in Russia too. I think everything is going in the right direction. smile Ordinary people just need to express their opinions. Naturally, within the framework of your current legislation. I think this will be enough.
              2. Hypersound
                Hypersound 26 December 2018 11: 20
                -3
                The people are one, but different nationalities. Living, of course, is better together
            2. Dr. Sorge
              Dr. Sorge 26 December 2018 19: 20
              0
              But, you see, Pavel, Siluanov is very ugly, if not to say insignificantly about non-brotherly relations ... These are liberoids and they destroy our Union very successfully.
          2. viralig
            viralig 26 December 2018 14: 51
            +2
            He is interested in his selfish interests. And they do not care about the opinion of ordinary citizens of Belarus, and there is nothing to talk about Russia.
          3. Wolf
            Wolf 26 December 2018 16: 40
            +3
            Caslav should reconcile the system, Socialism and capitalism, this is the main issue of the union of the state. It is possible according to the model Hong Kong - China, then it’s very easy to resolve. Batik saved the people and the country from the robbery of the oligarchs and criminal squad. The economy is weak, but Belarus is a small country they need as an air of external trade, it is not for nothing that the West led sanctions to Belarus by the first number. Lekko is fighting, but a smart decision is difficult, you need a lot of mind.
            1. Dr. Sorge
              Dr. Sorge 26 December 2018 19: 21
              +1
              The wolf speaks the truth :) Are you from Serbia? A bow to the Serbian people!
              1. Wolf
                Wolf 26 December 2018 19: 33
                +3
                Thanks in good words, yes Serbia mi. :)
        3. Brturin
          Brturin 26 December 2018 11: 09
          +3
          Quote: bouncyhunter
          But father defends his interests

          Their own, they are of course their own, but he was asked for reciprocity, you should want cheap oil to work with the ports of Russia. The ports have begun to prepare for this - the Baltic Fuel Company (in the Big Port of St. Petersburg) is modernizing the Turukhtannye Ostrov terminal - the total investment in the project will amount to more than 3 billion rubles, "the company hopes to handle about 2,5 million tons of oil products. these will be products of Belarusian refineries ". Russian Railways gave a discount ... And what - from the promised by the Deputy Prime Minister of the Republic of Belarus Vladimir Semashko in 2018 up to 1 million tons of oil products, according to data for September 2018, only 40 thousand tons were exported through Russian ports. Belarus believes that there should be economic feasibility of such a transit. Those. the price is the same as in Smolensk for Russia it is economically expedient, but there is no work with ports ...
      2. Hypersound
        Hypersound 26 December 2018 11: 13
        -2
        And yet, it looks like Ukrainians, that Belarusians are different from Russians. So the people, although very close, but still separate. Although I am definitely for integration - culturally, we are very close
        1. You Vlad
          You Vlad 26 December 2018 16: 02
          +2
          Quote: Hypersound
          And yet, it looks like Ukrainians, that Belarusians are different from Russians.

          But what are you? Is it true? And why do you distinguish Belarusians from Ukrainians from Russians?
          1. Hypersound
            Hypersound 26 December 2018 16: 07
            -5
            Look at the faces
            1. You Vlad
              You Vlad 26 December 2018 16: 25
              +2
              Quote: Hypersound

              Look at the faces

              I look and what? Tell me what should I see, specifically?
              1. Hypersound
                Hypersound 26 December 2018 16: 28
                -4
                Sorry, no time for demagoguery
      3. Harry.km
        Harry.km 26 December 2018 13: 08
        0
        Quote: Cheslav Czursky
        the existence of such countries is also nonsense, but for now, what we have is what we have .... Am I reasoning correctly?

        The existence of ANY states, if it was the self-determination of the people living there, is not nonsense, but the choice of that very people. Abkhazia and South Ossetia is also nonsense in your opinion?))
    3. Ironclad
      Ironclad 26 December 2018 09: 39
      -2
      Of course there is a compromise! They will reduce the price and increase us! We can do it!
    4. Astoria
      Astoria 26 December 2018 10: 56
      +3
      There is no compromise, the economy of the Republic of Belarus is a black hole of administrative management and cross-distribution, which over the years becomes only larger.
  3. Andrey Chistyakov
    Andrey Chistyakov 26 December 2018 09: 17
    +5
    Even in the news one could see the stone face of the Old Man.
    1. bessmertniy
      bessmertniy 26 December 2018 09: 30
      +5
      It turns into a monument. wassat
      1. BecmepH
        BecmepH 26 December 2018 10: 35
        0
        Quote: bessmertniy
        It turns into a monument. wassat

        Class! "+" for humor and deep thought. In one phrase, a qualitative characteristic of a person
    2. Anatole Klim
      Anatole Klim 26 December 2018 09: 58
      +3
      Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
      Even in the news one could see the stone face of the Old Man.

      I reviewed the video of the meeting between Putin and Lukashenko. He noticed that Putin’s feet are constantly moving, it’s obvious that Lukashenko is unnerving him, then he grabbed his chair with his hand, as if restraining himself. It seems they agreed to meet again this year, is everything just beginning? Let them agree.
      1. Andrey Chistyakov
        Andrey Chistyakov 26 December 2018 10: 02
        +3
        [quote = Anatole Klim] [quote = Andrey Chistyakov] Even in the news, Batka's stone face was visible. [/ quote]
        I reviewed the video of the meeting between Putin and Lukashenko. He noticed that Putin’s feet are constantly moving, it’s obvious that Lukashenko is unnerving him, then he grabbed his chair with his hand, as if restraining himself. It seems they agreed to meet again this year, is everything just beginning? Let them agree.
        Well, yes. There is. Let them agree.
      2. Semurg
        Semurg 26 December 2018 10: 18
        +1
        Quote: Anatole Klim
        Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
        Even in the news one could see the stone face of the Old Man.

        I reviewed the video of the meeting between Putin and Lukashenko. He noticed that Putin’s feet are constantly moving, it’s obvious that Lukashenko is unnerving him, then he grabbed his chair with his hand, as if restraining himself. It seems they agreed to meet again this year, is everything just beginning? Let them agree.

        He wants to run away from the dad’s GDP, but lowering one nation after all. laughing
      3. Hypersound
        Hypersound 26 December 2018 11: 21
        -2
        Lukashenko is still a troll, if he had not infuriated
      4. Olezhek
        Olezhek 27 December 2018 09: 00
        0
        Reviewed the video meeting between Putin and Lukashenko. I noticed that Putin’s feet are constantly in motion, obviously, that Lukashenka is unnerving him, then he grabbed his arm in general


        Herr Lukashenko got him - only time takes away and winds his nerves
        Negotiations with Belarus - for Russia - are negotiations "about nothing and how to give Belarusians a lot of money for friendship"
  4. Conductor
    Conductor 26 December 2018 09: 26
    +2
    We have a maneuver and compensation to the Belarusians !!!!
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 27 December 2018 00: 49
      +1
      Quote: Conductor
      We have a maneuver and compensation to the Belarusians !!!!

      Well, not otherwise, during Butsk’s maneuver, the wing was crushed or the lamp was broken. yes A "bodywork" is now expensive. laughing
  5. ODERVIT
    ODERVIT 26 December 2018 09: 26
    +5
    Little information about the outcome of the meeting. But proceeding from Siluanov's statement on the creation of a working group, a head-on compromise was not made. Now, you see, with a frown and the slogan of friendship, you will get nothing.
    1. kjhg
      kjhg 26 December 2018 10: 04
      +3
      Quote: ODERVIT
      Now, you see, with a frown and a slogan about friendship, you won’t get anything.

      And thank God! Loans are scattered right and left, and as a result, all these non-refundable loans are a heavy burden on you and me in the form of constantly rising gas prices, taxes, fines, and pension genocide. The managers will not compensate these losses from their own pockets. Ukraine has not yet returned $ 4 billion and, it seems, will not return it, because any talk about the return of the loan is no longer conducted anywhere. And how much has Belarus been forgiven? Armenia was given another loan this year. Venezuela in general has been "sticking out" $ 6 billion for how many years and all of them have a crisis there.
      1. My doctor
        My doctor 26 December 2018 17: 52
        0
        Quote: kjhg
        The loans are scattered right and left, and in the end, all these non-repayable loans put a heavy burden on you and me in the form of constantly increasing gas prices, taxes, fines and pension genocide.

        a loan was taken once; the remaining loans are used to secure a loan.
  6. eleronn
    eleronn 26 December 2018 09: 31
    +13
    Now, when Lukashenko recognizes Ossetia, Crimea, stops lobbing with the Ukrainian condom - then you can sit down at the negotiating table!
  7. RUS96
    RUS96 26 December 2018 09: 39
    +6
    As they mature for a single state, so it will be brotherly. Equally, half and half brotherly shorter. In the meantime, let them taste all the delights of their "independence"
    1. Semurg
      Semurg 26 December 2018 10: 23
      -1
      Quote: RUS96
      As they mature for a single state, so it will be brotherly. Equally, half and half brotherly shorter. In the meantime, let them taste all the delights of their "independence"

      You kind of signed an agreement on a union state?
  8. akm8226
    akm8226 26 December 2018 09: 43
    +10
    So far, from Luke's side, I see ONLY the desire to TAKE. Here you, brothers, GIVE us ... just give it to us, otherwise our economy is on fire. Let's not argue - but what in return? What does Mr. Luca offer in response? Okay, times are hard, there is nothing to give, but at least he morally supported us. Recognition of Crimea does not cost anything - one piece of paper worth a ruble ... but that is not the case either! And there are endless demands for money, let's face it. And why do we need such an "ally"?
    1. Bypassed
      Bypassed 26 December 2018 10: 09
      -2
      Recognition of the Crimea, after all, costs absolutely nothing - one piece of paper at the price of a ruble ... but there isn’t even that!
      This is called manipulation. The price of recognition of Crimea for Belarus is the US and European sanctions. Putin refused to compensate them. I am ashamed to ask - which of the countries to which Russia has written off huge debts Crimea recognized?
    2. Semurg
      Semurg 26 December 2018 10: 26
      0
      Quote: akm8226
      So far, from Luke's side, I see ONLY the desire to TAKE. Here you, brothers, GIVE us ... just give it to us, otherwise our economy is on fire. Let's not argue - but what in return? What does Mr. Luca offer in response? Okay, times are hard, there is nothing to give, but at least he morally supported us. Recognition of Crimea does not cost anything - one piece of paper worth a ruble ... but that is not the case either! And there are endless demands for money, let's face it. And why do we need such an "ally"?

      And others and dumb request tell me who your friends are and I will say who you are, it wasn’t said by me.
      1. helmi8
        helmi8 26 December 2018 10: 55
        +1
        Quote: Semurg
        tell me who your friends are and I will say who you are, it wasn’t said by me.

        Or with whom you will lead - so you need it! (also not mine smile )
  9. Mouse
    Mouse 26 December 2018 09: 43
    +2
    Minsk expected to get compensation from Moscow due to the implementation of a tax maneuver of about $ 310 in 2019 at an oil price of $ 60 per barrel. However, the Russian side refused to discuss this issue and did not offer any alternatives in return.

    All remained with their ...
    1. orphan 63
      orphan 63 26 December 2018 10: 37
      +4
      Actually, this is not about 310 million greens; Papacoli wants an order of magnitude more!

      First Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance of Russia Anton Siluanov. said that the Belarusian side is asking Russia to subsidize their refineries in the amount of 2 billion dollars a year, but Russia is not yet ready for such expenses, including because of the large number of its own projects within the country and the need to implement national projects.
      Due to the tax maneuver in the Russian oil industry, which involves zeroing export duties by 2024 and increasing domestic taxation, the cost of Russian oil for Belarus will increase. Minsk estimates its potential loss of $ 10 billion over six years due to the tax maneuver in Russia and seeks compensation.
      Anton Siluanov also stated that “Russia is ready to provide subsidies to Belarusian oil refineries (refineries) only if they fulfill their obligations within the framework of the Union State and more fully integrate the economies of the two countries. But at the moment, the conditions of the union agreement with Russia from 1999 are not fully fulfilled. At least the tax maneuver is an internal affair of Russia, and if Belarus wants Moscow to give the same conditions for its oil refiners, then let’s pursue an equally beneficial policy. ”
      So, for example, you can combine excise policy. In addition, Moscow has a distrust of Belarusian customs; this problem will be solved if Russian specialists are involved in the work, data exchange is established.
      The Russian side is concerned about the facts of periodic violation of the customs regime of the two countries, as well as the import of sanctioned and excisable goods into the country.

      "Russia has always fulfilled all its agreements with Belarus, provided it with hidden subsidies and direct loans, but the neighbor and ally only wants unilateral benefits. Trust in the ally of Belarus has recently been lost, Moscow is no longer ready to give gifts in the form of subsidies without receiving anything in return. - told reporters the first vice-premier, finance minister of Russia Anton Siluanov.
      Source: http://rusvesna.su/news/1545741308

      .

      1. Mouse
        Mouse 26 December 2018 10: 48
        0
        Quote: Orphan 63
        Papacoli wants an order of magnitude more!

        want is not harmful...
      2. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 27 December 2018 01: 02
        +1
        Quote: Orphan 63
        Actually, this is not about 310 million greens; Papacoli wants an order of magnitude more!
        that the Belarusian side is asking Russia to subsidize their refineries in the amount of $ 2 billion a year,

        Duc, no wonder. This year, Father, they turned off the tap with oil products (gasoline, diesel fuel, etc.), with which he successfully bargained, reselling the "surplus" to the same dill, yeah. And it is also not surprising that our management is tired of these freaks. And, now, when only raw materials will go to Belarus, the "strong business executive", having put a bolt to his nose, wanted to cover the costs. Apparently, the free profit was included in the budget in advance, and now there are gaps there. Something like this.
        1. Olezhek
          Olezhek 27 December 2018 08: 59
          +1
          This year But father turned off the tap with oil products (gasoline, diesel fuel, etc.), with which he successfully bargained, reselling the "surplus" to the same dill, ... the "strong business executive", having estimated a bolt to his nose, wanted to cover the costs. Apparently, the free profit was budgeted in advance.


          It was naturally laid ... and re-mortgaged - and now such a bummer ...
          And someone in Minsk suffered a tantrum ...
  10. loginovich
    loginovich 26 December 2018 09: 52
    -7
    Roll the father’s barrel. Look at the hypocrisy of the darkest and you dad is to blame for everything. Can he not one?
  11. Conductor
    Conductor 26 December 2018 09: 53
    +3
    Old Man is just a boring neighbor.
  12. Vityaz Russian
    Vityaz Russian 26 December 2018 10: 01
    +1
    Why disconnected from Russia?
    1. Metamisolatria
      Metamisolatria 26 December 2018 12: 42
      +1
      Dishonestly, Old Man was against independence
    2. Bypassed
      Bypassed 26 December 2018 13: 27
      +3
      Ask Yeltsin
    3. Dr. Sorge
      Dr. Sorge 26 December 2018 19: 23
      +1
      Eltser and Shushkevich should be asked.
  13. Bypassed
    Bypassed 26 December 2018 10: 06
    -8
    Don't like Belarus in face and in profile? So let's get out. There are no unpaid loans. Though I can go to Europe for a normal car.
    And about whether we will disappear without an older brother - no, we will not, although we will have to tighten our belts. But I was at the Russian forum "Open Innovations - 2018" (Skolkovo). I didn’t see anything that Belarusians couldn’t do. By the way, Russians are very interested in our technologies produced in "clean rooms". I myself saw the delegation when I visited the production during inspections.
    1. vadson
      vadson 26 December 2018 10: 19
      +4
      Can you refuel that car at European prices? and not just you? the example of Ukraine is obvious. salaries are old and prices are new. Europe needs another parasite? Ukraine for her eyes. does not know what to do with. most likely the first European demand will be the privatization of state property and the abandonment of the nuclear power plant - nizzzzyayaya. and yes - there will be a new "leader" - a talking head will be sent by mail. the Russian market will close. you will have all the sanctions, you will sell parmesan to khokhlam
      1. Brturin
        Brturin 26 December 2018 12: 30
        +2
        And they can take gas from the Lithuanian terminal ... in Lithuania from January 1, 2019 a cubic meter of gas for heating will cost 34,5 rubles (0,46 euros), a cubic meter of gas for cooking 49,5 rubles (0,66 euros), and for houses where gas is used both for heating and in kitchens - 33,75 rubles (0,45 euros). If we take the ruble against the euro as 75 to 1.
      2. Bypassed
        Bypassed 26 December 2018 13: 26
        +1
        Refuel at European prices? So there is very little left - at gas stations over the past year, fuel has risen in price 16 times and perhaps this is not the limit this year. Gas scare? Since 2020, Belarus will reduce purchases by 30% - the transfer of capacity for electricity, taking into account nuclear power plants, has been going on for the second year. Even your GDP said for this that the Belarusian NPP is a direct loss to Gazprom.
        1. Brturin
          Brturin 26 December 2018 14: 00
          0
          In addition to gas used for communal needs and electricity production, there is also a chemical industry, an example from neighbors is Lithuanian Achema, Odessa port ... the question is, should relations be mutually beneficial ...
        2. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 27 December 2018 01: 08
          0
          Quote: PASSED BY
          Even your GDP said for this that the Belarusian NPP is a direct loss to Gazprom.

          Oh, trouble-trouble ... laughing Not Gazprom alone, yeah. If somewhere has departed, it means that somewhere it arrives - "this is an axiom, believe - do not believe ...". The direct loss of Gazprom in this case is the direct profit of RosAtom. yes
          Quote: PASSED BY
          So let's get out.

          Lyaksandro Rygorych, you? wassat
    2. The Little Humpbacked Horse
      The Little Humpbacked Horse 26 December 2018 19: 58
      -3
      Quote: PASSED BY
      Don't like Belarus in face and in profile? So let's get out


      Yes, it’s time for a long time, beggars are tired of worse than a turnip turnip when you start to work already, and not beg for money
  14. aszzz888
    aszzz888 26 December 2018 10: 08
    +2
    Leaders of countries agreed on another meeting to be held before the New Year
    ... should agree, should ...
  15. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 26 December 2018 10: 15
    -1
    How everything is familiar ... As this lick already got. This is such and such, but ours is an eagle ... Yes, I do not believe you or your eagle.
    As Belarus’s television explained, this is primarily due to the fact that Vladimir Putin wants to sort out the problems in more detail in order to find the right solution.

    The Belarusian television probably does not know that Putin has already dealt with the pension reform in Russia and made the "correct" decision. Hopefully this time his "chuyka" won't let him down ...
  16. Ros 56
    Ros 56 26 December 2018 10: 44
    +5
    What compensation, for what such beautiful eyes? Ehai a Riyadh and negotiate with the king. He will give you oil and a ruble and compensation from above and call his brother. This Luke already crafted crafted.
  17. KURT330
    KURT330 26 December 2018 10: 45
    +1
    Quote: passerby
    To drive this Lukashenko into the neck, let him go begging the fraternal people, and here, as he said, they’re partners.

    Nick matches the blooper!
  18. Hypersound
    Hypersound 26 December 2018 11: 07
    -1
    Ready to deliver a kidney that Belarus will be part of Russia no later than 2024
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  19. asar
    asar 26 December 2018 12: 26
    0
    This leader wants to eat fish and .....!
    It does not happen!
    Or with us or ....!
    1. Conductor
      Conductor 26 December 2018 12: 51
      0
      And he will stop for half a bite and not swallowed a fish in his mouth))))
      1. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 27 December 2018 01: 11
        0
        Quote: Conductor
        and with no swallowed fish in your mouth))))

        Duc, then this ... that ... double asphyxiation ... fellow laughing
  20. vasek5533
    vasek5533 26 December 2018 12: 33
    +3
    Quote: kjhg
    Quote: ODERVIT
    Now, you see, with a frown and a slogan about friendship, you won’t get anything.

    And thank God! Loans are scattered right and left, and in the end, all these non-repayable loans put a heavy burden on you and me in the form of constantly increasing gas prices, taxes, fines and pension genocide. From their own pocket, managers will not compensate for these losses. Ukraine has not yet returned $ 4 billion and, it seems, will not return it anymore, because any talk of repaying the loan is nowhere to be done. And how much Belarus was forgiven? Armenia was given another loan this year. Venezuela in general has been "sticking out" $ 6 billion for how many years and all of them have a crisis there.


    And how much have you forgiven? Do not you know? I’ll tell you - not at all, everything comes back with interest, well, not naturally to the people, but to American papers, but this does not upset you.
    A loan is not help, but a way to earn money, go to any bank, if you do not believe it, you will be welcomed there.
  21. Mentat
    Mentat 26 December 2018 12: 52
    +1
    Media: “Today in the Palace of Independence they are preparing for the New Year holidays.”
    When the presidential residence is pathetically called the "Palace of Independence", it is clear that something has gone wrong with the inventor of this name from the very beginning.
    1. Olezhek
      Olezhek 27 December 2018 08: 54
      0
      As a matter of fact - a sense of humor is somehow missing ...
  22. Kito
    Kito 26 December 2018 14: 15
    +1
    Tired of being kind to the fraternal peoples who spit in your face, each time demanding more and more from you. Tired of tightening their belts because of fraternal love for people who do not care about your interests ...
  23. Olezhek
    Olezhek 26 December 2018 15: 15
    +1
    In the Kremlin, they simply stopped talking to Lukashenko, but he cannot understand this for half a year already.
    And you can meet at least every week.
    All the money they will not give.
    Although time is a pity.
  24. Snickers
    Snickers 26 December 2018 18: 20
    +1
    Well, what a tax maneuver, what compensation, if the price of oil falls.
    By the way, recently the president very happily said that he was an adherent of market fuel prices. And now, not even a month has passed, oil has collapsed, and where is the market pricing for gasoline and diesel?
  25. VeteranVSSSR
    VeteranVSSSR 26 December 2018 21: 15
    0
    Time 21 hours 13 minutes. I read all the comments for this second.
    Russians, what a bore you are ...
    A bore-man. Which is easier to give than to prove for a long time that you do not want him ...
    1. Olezhek
      Olezhek 27 December 2018 09: 02
      0
      Publish the city and the world a list of "non-boring" that give Belarusians a lot of money for beautiful eyes ...
      Be so sweet.
  26. Jurkovs
    Jurkovs 27 December 2018 10: 41
    0
    Not negotiations, but persuasions.