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In the Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation declared dissatisfaction with the work of the Belarusian customs

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The Russian Ministry of Finance reported that Moscow could provide Minsk with subsidies. We are talking about a hypothetical subsidizing of Belarusian refineries. Recall that President Alexander Lukashenko has recently accused Moscow of not fulfilling its promises, while the economy of the Republic of Belarus is losing billions of dollars (interpretation of Lukashenko himself) due to barriers imposed by the Russian Federation.


In the Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation declared dissatisfaction with the work of the Belarusian customs


The readiness to provide subsidies to the Belarusian refinery was announced by the head of the Russian Ministry of Finance Anton Siluanov. At the same time, Siluanov immediately added that subsidies will be made only when Belarus fulfills important condition. This condition is the deepening of integration processes in the Union State, in which the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus are included. First of all, the head of the Russian Ministry of Finance noted the importance of integration in the economic sphere.

According to Siluanov, both parties should have equal benefits from the process. He noted that it would be worth uniting the excise policy of the two countries. To do this, Belarusian and Russian customs officers should work together. The head of the Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation (he is deputy chairman of the Russian government) made it clear that Moscow "does not trust Belarusian customs officers." In fact, we can talk about Belarus allowing Russian customs officers to work on the Belarusian borders, so that Belarusian colleagues would not legitimize the importation of sanctions products into the Russian Federation.

Siluanov:
All this sanction goes to us.


Does Belarus have any complaints about the Russian customs, Siluanov does not report in his statement. He does not inform whether the Russian Federation is ready to allow Belarusian customs officers to their borders.

Recall that Minsk expects Russia to subsidize its refineries worth about 2 billion dollars a year. Siluanov said that Russia has its own internal national projects and there is no deeper integration with Belarus, making it clear that in the current state of Minsk it is hardly worth hoping for subsidies.
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  1. Loess
    Loess 25 December 2018 12: 30
    +18
    According to Siluanov, both parties should have equal benefits from the process.
    In my opinion this is fair.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 25 December 2018 12: 32
      +8
      Fair, but most likely not feasible. The issue of integration processes is extremely painful in Minsk.
      1. Loess
        Loess 25 December 2018 12: 36
        +7
        Quote: 210ox
        The issue of integration processes is extremely painful in Minsk.

        I agree, but if, apart from integration, they have nothing more to offer, then sooner or later the question of mutually beneficial will still have to be addressed.
        1. Andrey Chistyakov
          Andrey Chistyakov 25 December 2018 12: 42
          +2
          Quote: Less
          Quote: 210ox
          The issue of integration processes is extremely painful in Minsk.

          I agree, but if, apart from integration, they have nothing more to offer, then sooner or later the question of mutually beneficial will still have to be addressed.

          Old foxes are the same. He took and changed the Constitution for himself. Putin was offered to do the same in 2008. He did not go for it.
          1. Egorovich
            Egorovich 25 December 2018 12: 49
            0
            Not washing, so skating Lukashenko lead to the stall, where he is trying to get out. And you need not drag him, but drive him into the kick, so that he would not twitch.
            1. Andrey Chistyakov
              Andrey Chistyakov 25 December 2018 12: 52
              +5
              I guess, yes. It’s time to decide.
            2. Astoria
              Astoria 25 December 2018 13: 05
              +3
              What for ? This is economic masochism for Russia. The difference in GDP per capita is almost two times between the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus, that is, to equalize the Russian Federation, it would have to double the GDP of the Republic of Belarus. + -2,5 trillion rubles a year am hi farewell goodbye
              1. Leshy1975
                Leshy1975 25 December 2018 14: 38
                0
                Quote: Astoria
                What for ? This is economic masochism for Russia. The difference in GDP per capita is almost two times between the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus, that is, to equalize the Russian Federation, it would have to double the GDP of the Republic of Belarus. + -2,5 trillion rubles a year am hi farewell goodbye

                That's right, do not litter money with fic. This money itself is more necessary. To unbind the Republic of Belarus, following Ukraine, from the Russian Federation completely (to prepare for Armenia and Kazakhstan), and that’s it, all for a while. Here, by the way, in this light, what question arises: The average monthly income from labor activity (thousand rubles) in 2017.
                Moscow - 63,6
                Republic of Dagestan, for example - 18,1
                Here, after all, for leveling, you won’t save any money. And well, one Dagestan, but there are many of them (source center-yf.ru). Therefore, I propose, in order to take care of public funds (that’s how it is!), To leave only Moscow, and also pipelines. Ah, the country will not be ?! Well, firstly, the remaining, for some time, just enough, to live to the heart. And secondly, well, there was such a state 27 years ago, in which both the current Russian Federation and the current Republic of Belarus were considered as one, well, there was something to remember. So here, well, there were and were, we’ll survive (who will not be unhooked) - we will forget. Indeed, the main thing is not to suffer from economic masochism and not to distribute state money to anyone. To the population of the Russian Federation, by the way, too, otherwise I know you (well, rather us). Do not open your mouth to someone else’s piece, but money, it’s clear that it’s state-owned, not popular. Unhook everyone!

                PS All these years, Russia has forgiven debts to other countries and issued new loans to its "friends", and not the poorest. For example, $ 9,5 billion was written off to Vietnam, $ 4,7 billion to Algeria, $ 4,6 billion to Libya, and Syria, in which there was no war in 2005, was forgiven about $ 10 billion. Iraq, North Korea and Gazeta.Ru Ave.
                Well and so, to laugh (source newspaper Vzglyad from 28.11.18) Data on the issuance of a VTB loan of $ 12 billion to the Central African Republic (CAR) appeared, probably as a result of an operational error in coding, a bank representative said.
                Earlier, a VTB report published by the Central Bank provided information on the issuance of a $ 12 billion loan to the Central African Republic, Reuters reports.
                It was noted that “in the table next to the CAR, the amount was 801,9 billion rubles ($ 12 billion), which is more than six times the annual output of the country».
                Whether in the state. banks are a mess, since the "mistake" was noticed only by "cunning journalists", or overlooked and "lit up", something that should not have been. It means again a mess. I'm worried about government money. As if what, in such a mess, did not happen to them. laughing
                1. Astoria
                  Astoria 25 December 2018 15: 39
                  +8
                  1) I don’t know how it is in your forest, but brevity is the soul of wit.
                  2) I am AGAINST the fact that anyone at all just give out Russian money. For me, only the Russians matter, not the Belarusians, not the Ukrainians, not the Papuans — only the Russians. I don’t care about the rest from the word AT ALL. If these people take Russian citizenship then another conversation.
                  3) It makes no sense to copy-write off the bad debts of the union without mentioning how many new contracts have been concluded.
                  1. Leshy1975
                    Leshy1975 25 December 2018 16: 08
                    +1
                    Quote: Astoria
                    1) I don’t know how it is in your forest, but brevity is the soul of wit.
                    2) I am AGAINST the fact that anyone at all just give out Russian money. For me, only the Russians matter, not the Belarusians, not the Ukrainians, not the Papuans — only the Russians. I don’t care about the rest from the word AT ALL. If these people take Russian citizenship then another conversation.
                    3) It makes no sense to copy-write off the bad debts of the union without mentioning how many new contracts have been concluded.

                    1) I report - in our forest it’s good, complete order! I’m Leshy, I’m following this. Of the sisters, only kikimory.
                    2) Well, here are the inhabitants I mentioned, in comparison with Muscovites, Dagestan seems to be like Russians. And what, did it help them a lot? Why, and in one country, such a wild bundle? Or is someone more Russian than others? Or maybe the reason is not this? I just remember how at first there were slogans: enough to feed this and that and that and how it all ended up. Therefore, when I hear such calls, regarding recently close peoples, I understand that everything has arrived, we need to prepare for the worst. And yes, in the current situation with stratification in living standards by region (and not just in society as a whole), it is very difficult to keep the country of the Russian Federation united. Too different interests and concerns. So which Russians really matter to you?
                    3) By the way, how many new ones? And most importantly profitable. Very interesting to hear about Venezuela.
                    1. Astoria
                      Astoria 25 December 2018 17: 01
                      +1
                      Your demagogy is not interesting to me, you want to explain what to the Dagestanis - the Malkachal Velkom, they will explain everything to you there laughing

                      recently close peoples
                      - do not write nonsense, the peoples who are not near or far away will not contain Russian pensioners - this is the main message, but leave the demagogy to yourself - it is not interesting. hi
                    2. Consultant
                      Consultant 25 December 2018 21: 32
                      -1
                      Quote: Leshy1975
                      3) By the way, how many new ones? And most importantly profitable. Very interesting to hear about Venezuela

                      If you would not only write, but you would also read at least sometimes ... here, enlighten. Slightly emotional, but essentially true:


                      Quote: Sarmat Sanych
                      Over the past 6 years, Rosneft alone pumped oil from PDVSA at a cost of $ 2 billion, plus it took away its assets for $ XNUMX billion.

                      So that's it ... goblin.
                      1. Andrey Chistyakov
                        Andrey Chistyakov 25 December 2018 22: 25
                        0
                        He is the only one here who writes so spatially. Inability to formulate your thought concisely. Second. He gets high on his own. You have a bad "toy". Long-lasting.
                      2. Consultant
                        Consultant 25 December 2018 22: 32
                        +1
                        Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
                        He is the only one here who writes so spatially

                        Spacious, probably? Well, why ... here is ROSS42, for example ... I recommend reading it laughing

                        Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
                        He kicks himself

                        But how much expression sometimes ...

                        Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
                        You have a bad "toy"

                        All markers are different in taste and color. request
                      3. Andrey Chistyakov
                        Andrey Chistyakov 25 December 2018 22: 36
                        +1
                        Quote: Consultant
                        Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
                        He is the only one here who writes so spatially

                        Spacious, probably? Well, why ... here is ROSS42, for example ... I recommend reading it laughing

                        Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
                        He kicks himself

                        But how much expression sometimes ...

                        Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
                        You have a bad "toy"

                        All markers are different in taste and color. request

                        No .. Thanks, of course. I can’t read long speeches. The book still went wherever. Here, Andrei from Chelyabinsk about a US exit from Syria dashed such a cart ?! Well, who interestingly read to the end?
          2. Leshy1975
            Leshy1975 25 December 2018 13: 42
            -6
            Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
            Quote: Less
            Quote: 210ox
            The issue of integration processes is extremely painful in Minsk.

            I agree, but if, apart from integration, they have nothing more to offer, then sooner or later the question of mutually beneficial will still have to be addressed.

            Old foxes are the same. He took and changed the Constitution for himself. Putin was offered to do the same in 2008. He did not go for it.

            I didn’t go, I confirm. He went the other way:
            1. The determination of the Constitutional Court of November 5, 1998 No. 134-O:
            “Two consecutive terms of office constitute a constitutional limit, the excess of which the Constitution of the Russian Federation does not allow.”
            2. The determination of the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation of September 25, 2001 (Case No. 74-G01-34):
            “... The prohibition on the election of the same person by the president is more than two times established ... Art. 81 of the current constitution of the Russian Federation ... ".
            3. In 2010, under the editorship of the Chairman of the Constitutional Court V.D. Zorkina Commentary on the Constitution of the Russian Federation was published:
            "The approval of the principle of limited time of the presidential power by TWO CONSTITUTIONAL PERIODS also means real restrictions on this power. <...>
            <…> Limitation of holding the office of President for TWO TERMS, periodic elections (once every six years) of the State Duma - the chamber of the parliament of the Russian Federation, the norm of Part 3 of Art. 81 of the Constitution serves as a guarantee of the political development of Russia <...> ".

            Contrary to the rulings of the constitutional court. And you say to change the constitution, but why? It is possible so.
          3. for
            for 25 December 2018 22: 17
            +1
            Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
            Putin was offered to do the same in 2008. He did not go for it

            And why do you need Medvedev for this?
            1. Andrey Chistyakov
              Andrey Chistyakov 25 December 2018 22: 23
              -2
              Quote: for
              Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
              Putin was offered to do the same in 2008. He did not go for it

              And why do you need Medvedev for this?

              I am for the procedure.
          4. Alber
            Alber 26 December 2018 19: 57
            -2
            Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
            Old foxes are the same. He took and changed the Constitution for himself. Putin was offered to do the same in 2008. He did not go for it.

            YAH! But Eltsin did not change the constitution for himself? No? He became almost autocratic king. Why should Putin refuse such a freebie?
            Lukashenko saved the country and industry with agriculture. And we have a handful of grabbers grabbing 95% of all property, which until recently belonged to all the people and destroyed industry and agricultural production.
            So stop pouring dirt and hutspu on an honest man, and a strong master
            1. Andrey Chistyakov
              Andrey Chistyakov 26 December 2018 20: 34
              -1
              Quote: Alber
              Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
              Old foxes are the same. He took and changed the Constitution for himself. Putin was offered to do the same in 2008. He did not go for it.

              YAH! But Eltsin did not change the constitution for himself? No? He became almost autocratic king. Why should Putin refuse such a freebie?
              Lukashenko saved the country and industry with agriculture. And we have a handful of grabbers grabbing 95% of all property, which until recently belonged to all the people and destroyed industry and agricultural production.
              So stop pouring dirt and hutspu on an honest man, and a strong master

              You are not in the subject at all. For Yeltsin, the Constitution was written in 1993. Learn materiel !!!!
        2. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 25 December 2018 12: 45
          +7
          When it comes to Lukash, nothing but love for money comes to mind
        3. 210ox
          210ox 25 December 2018 12: 51
          +1
          Wait, they do not offer (integration), but we. And not only that. The list is extensive.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 25 December 2018 12: 57
            +6
            Quote: 210ox

            Wait, they don’t offer (integration), but we

            He needs money, and integration threatens his personal power
      2. Alber
        Alber 25 December 2018 12: 47
        -6
        Quote: 210ox
        Fair, but most likely not feasible. The issue of integration processes is extremely painful in Minsk.

        Let our money lenders go to Belarus! Steal and sell everything with giblets
        1. 210ox
          210ox 25 December 2018 12: 53
          +2
          This is the main problem in the relationship.
          1. Andrey Chistyakov
            Andrey Chistyakov 25 December 2018 13: 02
            +6
            Quote: 210ox
            This is the main problem in the relationship.

            There was an article here in the fall. How Old Man turned to Chinese "brothers" to repair bridges. The Chinese "helped" the truth on their own terms. Their materials. Their workers. And they set the amount. The "friendship" ended immediately.
        2. Astoria
          Astoria 25 December 2018 12: 54
          +5
          But where is there, the old state farm yards + idle factories built for Chinese loans - this is not the ultimate dream of all a'ligarchs. laughing
          1. Leshy1975
            Leshy1975 25 December 2018 13: 59
            +2
            Quote: Astoria
            But where is there, the old state farm yards + idle factories built for Chinese loans - this is not the ultimate dream of all a'ligarchs. laughing

            Well, I don’t know about non-working factories in the Republic of Belarus (I don’t work in Voronezh or I know for sure), but with old farm yards, you old man, obviously got excited: Belarus takes oil export third placedelivering 2017 thousand tons at the end of 72, second only to New Zealand and the EU. For the export of cheeses and cottage cheese - fourth place from 189 thousand tons of exported products.
            In 2017, the level of milk production per capita in Belarus amounted to 752 kg. This is approximately seven times the global average consumption (111 kg). Also, the level of consumption within the country (251 kg) was three times exceeded.
            As for the volume of milk production per capita, we give for comparison the statistical data of other states in 2017:
            Kazakhstan - 299 kg
            Armenia - 252 kg
            Kyrgyzstan - 251 kg,
            Russia - only 209 kg.
            So, we (the Russian Federation) do not even provide ourselves with milk, probably because the "old state farm yards" have been liquidated, and new ones, in sufficient numbers, unlike the "narrow-minded" Belarusians, have not yet been built. But we have a lot of oil and you can simply pump it out of the ground, and you must first feed the cows, and then pull at their boobs, and buy milk and milk. As I say, "we" have a lot of oil.
            1. Leshy1975
              Leshy1975 25 December 2018 14: 50
              0
              Quote: Leshy1975
              Quote: Astoria
              But where is there, the old state farm yards + idle factories built for Chinese loans - this is not the ultimate dream of all a'ligarchs. laughing

              Well, I don’t know about non-working factories in the Republic of Belarus (I don’t work in Voronezh or I know for sure), but with old farm yards, you old man, obviously got excited: Belarus takes oil export third placedelivering 2017 thousand tons at the end of 72, second only to New Zealand and the EU. For the export of cheeses and cottage cheese - fourth place from 189 thousand tons of exported products.
              In 2017, the level of milk production per capita in Belarus amounted to 752 kg. This is approximately seven times the global average consumption (111 kg). Also, the level of consumption within the country (251 kg) was three times exceeded.
              As for the volume of milk production per capita, we give for comparison the statistical data of other states in 2017:
              Kazakhstan - 299 kg
              Armenia - 252 kg
              Kyrgyzstan - 251 kg,
              Russia - only 209 kg.
              So, we (the Russian Federation) do not even provide ourselves with milk, probably because the "old state farm yards" have been liquidated, and new ones, in sufficient numbers, unlike the "narrow-minded" Belarusians, have not yet been built. But we have a lot of oil and you can simply pump it out of the ground, and you must first feed the cows, and then pull at their boobs, and buy milk and milk. As I say, "we" have a lot of oil.

              Minuses scammers. I don’t understand something. Do you disagree with the fact that the Russian Federation, unlike the Republic of Belarus, does not provide itself with milk? Well, give the numbers and smash my arguments to smithereens. If you don't like the fact that you don't provide yourself with milk. So what have I got to do with it? Get out to Putin and his government and throw it. I am not responsible for the agricultural sector in the Russian Federation, and I am not responsible for your chosen President Putin either. And then you chose and "drown" for President Putin, you screwed up, in terms of providing the Russian Federation with milk, he (since so many years has been leading the country), and minus me. Where is the logic? laughing
            2. Astoria
              Astoria 25 December 2018 14: 59
              -1
              1) Yes, the Russian Federation does not provide itself with milk, this is an unfortunate fact. We do not provide yet, since milk is the longest investment cycle.

              2) when I talk about old state farm yards - I say that agriculture in Belarus unprofitable, compare the profitability of agriculture in the Russian Federation and Belarus.
              1. Leshy1975
                Leshy1975 25 December 2018 15: 24
                0
                Quote: Astoria
                1) Yes, the Russian Federation does not provide itself with milk, this is an unfortunate fact. We do not provide yet, since milk is the longest investment cycle.

                2) when I talk about old state farm yards - I say that agriculture in Belarus unprofitable, compare the profitability of agriculture in the Russian Federation and Belarus.

                And with what will we compare? Maybe with these data (source gazeta.ru from 20.12.18):
                “More than 10 million tons of agricultural production that were mentioned in official reports for 2017 never really existed.
                So, if initially Rosstat estimated the growth of the industry over 5 years at 20,7%, then after adjusting the data, this indicator was more than halved - to 8,7%. The estimate of the value of gross agricultural output was also reduced from 5654 billion rubles. to 5111,8 billion rubles, that is, by about 10,6% "
                And yet (source AgroXXI.ru dated February 21, 2018) So far, the country's dependence on planting material reaches 50-90 percent by major crops.
                Why then do we not provide ourselves with seeds too? There, the profitability of the hoo what, even like that more correctly- Wow what. And with the investment cycle, everything is in order. Have you heard about the seeds of hybrids in agricultural? They give a high yield ONCE, and then the plants are sterile (as a rule, due to the multiplicity of the parental genome). So, if the West does not sell us (for example this spring) seeds of hybrids, then there will be nothing to sow. You can completely forget about corn, beets, sunflowers, as well as about products of their processing. The successes in the agricultural sector of the Russian Federation are such (I’m talking specifically about the agricultural basis) that you, fans of Mr. Putin (and, unfortunately, we, his opponents, too) will have nothing to eat (if the West does not sell seeds). No, of course, you can buy and replace, for example, palm oil. Just how much will all the imported ones cost and where is the success of the agricultural RF? Despite the profitability of individual industries. By the way, dairy farming, in the Russian Federation, is unprofitable.
                1. Astoria
                  Astoria 25 December 2018 15: 53
                  -2
                  1) Do not want to take a rostat, take an independent source. Or do you think that I rely on Rosstat or Belstat.
                  2)
                  Have you heard about the seeds of hybrids in agricultural?
                  - it was about cows, no. Or a cow can be raised in a season. laughing The dependence of the Russian Federation on planting material is known - but from this agriculture in Belarus does not become more profitable laughing
                  3) I put on Putin and Rasputin. Do not go hysterical and do not put sheets tongue
                  1. Leshy1975
                    Leshy1975 25 December 2018 16: 40
                    0
                    Quote: Astoria
                    it was about cows

                    So, of course, I was taught to read for a long time. Maybe, after years and forgot something. But is not this your comment: "when I talk about the old state farm yards, I mean that agriculture in Belarus unprofitable, compare profitability agriculture in the Russian Federation and Belarus"I could not even imagine that by the term agriculture you mean exclusively - cows. Do not blame me too much. I'm Leshy, what to take from me, in terms of agriculture, I don't understand much. And yet, about the profitability of agriculture You are a talented person, you can see it right away, you show how cheerfully your tongue is with a smiley face. Think about this. So your favorite profitability is in direct proportion to the structure of the agricultural sector. If you are only engaged in dairy farming, then you have no profitability. And vice versa, if you are engaged only in crop production, then profitability will be necessary. If you develop animal husbandry in combination with crop production, then the results will be average, depending on which is more. And if within crop production you are engaged exclusively in the most profitable crops. , for example, sunflower, then you will have this very profit, but not for long, since the land needs a change of crops, and for sunflower, at least 7-full sowing borot. Otherwise, the degradation of arable land and scribe (polar fox) to your lands. Without making a sufficient number of org. fertilization, this process is only accelerated. You can, of course, use it as an org. fertilizers - siderates. Have you seen a lot of this in Russia (if only in gardening)? But the violation of crop rotation, for the sake of momentary profitability, yes, I saw it. Especially to the south you go, sunflower as a monoculture.
                    Especially for you, note: Earth refers to non-renewable natural resources, since it is naturally restored very slowly (soil formation processes are very long, their speed in different regions varies from 0,5 to 2 cm per 100 years; so, to create a fertile soil layer in 18 cm in nature, it took from 1400 to 7000 years.)
                    Do you want to speculate about agricultural profitability?
                    Or immediately discuss the following question:
                    Hysteria is an uncontrollable state. expressed by laughter or sobs that a person cannot stop himself. It is caused by strong nervous tension for a long time. That’s the name of the woman, I’m not you, but you are showing me, perhaps without controlling yourself. hi
                    1. Astoria
                      Astoria 25 December 2018 16: 55
                      -3
                      Again, a sheet was written about degradation - you yourself do not understand what you are arguing about, why? sit - copy Wikipedia laughing
                      1. Leshy1975
                        Leshy1975 25 December 2018 17: 14
                        0
                        Quote: Astoria
                        Again, a sheet was written about degradation - you yourself do not understand what you are arguing about, why? sit - copy Wikipedia laughing

                        Of course, it's hard for me to argue with you, as Ivan Vasilyevich used to say from the famous comedy film: "How can you understand if you don't say anything." If your term, agriculture, means cows. Indeed, where I care about you, even VIKI will not help me here. Do you have any other thoughts about the source of knowledge and information? Well, okay. hi
                      2. Astoria
                        Astoria 25 December 2018 17: 35
                        -5
                        Forest insanity grew stronger hi
        3. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 25 December 2018 12: 56
          +3
          Quote: Alber
          Steal and sell everything with giblets

          And what do you steal, do you really own something?
        4. Alber
          Alber 26 December 2018 17: 38
          0
          Quote: Alber
          Quote: 210ox
          Fair, but most likely not feasible. The issue of integration processes is extremely painful in Minsk.

          Let our money lenders go to Belarus! Steal and sell everything with giblets

          Oh ho hoh! How many loan sharks and their representatives are here in VO! Zaminusili poor fellow ...
      3. prosto_rgb
        prosto_rgb 25 December 2018 13: 20
        +2
        Quote: 210ox
        The issue of integration processes is extremely painful in Minsk.

        Well, while the entire 2000s of the AHL talked about closer integration and alliance, the Kremlin only blocked gas at -25 since 2004, and drove it from the Victory Parades on May 9 so that it would be comfortable for Bush the Younger to sit on the podium.
        And then suddenly it is urgently necessary to integrate with 6 areas.
        Where is the logic?
        1. Astoria
          Astoria 25 December 2018 13: 28
          -2
          Your 6 areas - how to say softer - economically unclaimed. The agronomist was simply sent softly - and the way he will now shear his sheep up or down is his own business.
          1. prosto_rgb
            prosto_rgb 25 December 2018 13: 33
            +2
            Quote: Astoria
            Your 6 areas - how to say softer - are economically unclaimed.

            how to say softer
            If: "6 regions are economically unclaimed",
            then require integration, you see, how smart and pragmatic?
            And if such requirements are voiced, then demanded !!!
            1. Astoria
              Astoria 25 December 2018 13: 39
              0
              You are not a relative of the AHL, no - but then, also write some kind of pearls laughing
              They tell you - under the pretext of integration refused, knowing that your mustachioed leader will not agree to this.

              And the fact that they are economically unclaimed is a stubborn fact - GDP per capita is two times lower - it makes no sense to compensate for this gap. hi

              It’s now easier to obtain citizenship of the Russian Federation - and rightly so, someone will leave for the Russian Federation, someone for Poland or the Baltic States, and old factories, along with pensioners, will remain the only assets of the Republic of Belarus - not a supporter of liberals, but in this case I agree with them - you did not fit into the economic model hi
              1. prosto_rgb
                prosto_rgb 25 December 2018 13: 44
                +1
                Quote: Astoria
                You are not a relative of the AHL, no - but then, also write some kind of pearls

                If ... But no.
                1. Astoria
                  Astoria 25 December 2018 13: 52
                  +4
                  And don’t think bad, I personally have nothing against Belarusians, there is simply no economic sense in integration for Russia, and if you take Babich’s last words for the truth by 60-70%, and even by 50% - economic transfers from Russia to Belarus amount to at least 2 Billion dollars a year is a normal price for minimal political loyalty. But it also makes no sense to increase transfers for just like that no.
                  1. prosto_rgb
                    prosto_rgb 25 December 2018 14: 06
                    +3
                    Quote: Astoria
                    And don’t think bad, I personally have nothing against Belarusians,

                    Thank! I see that without these politicians we have no particular disagreements.
                    Take them - and cancel.
                    Quote: Astoria
                    there is simply no economic sense in integration for Russia

                    What and speech.
                    But this Medvedev requires further integration.
                    He always has mixed decisions.
                    After all, it was thanks to him (the sale of Iskander missiles to the Republic of Bashkortostan and other military-technical cooperation) that Alexander Grigorievich decided to make the Polonaise MLRS and at the same time an analogue of the RPG-32.
                    But Vladimir Vladimirovich in this regard is a much more competent politician. Not afraid to sell air defense systems in Belarus.
                    Because I think today will agree.
                    1. Astoria
                      Astoria 25 December 2018 15: 11
                      -3
                      Medvedev does not demand integration as such, but the price of the newly required economic preferences.

                      As for "Polonaise" - no offense, I don't really believe in this project, in terms of localization. Yes, very loud statements were made, but I will give you another example - your former probably already prime minister when the jilly plant was launched (officially June, well, + -) managed to answer AHL - that localization is already approaching 50%, but in fact the first batches of cars are not I know how it is now - they even walked with Chinese rubber. So someday - maybe, if there is demand.
                  2. Gardamir
                    Gardamir 25 December 2018 14: 16
                    -6
                    there is no sense in integration for Russia,
                    What does Russia have to do with it? These are Russian oligarchs, they are looking for a new feeding trough.
                    1. Astoria
                      Astoria 25 December 2018 15: 12
                      +1
                      Don’t worry - the administration of the AHL president licked your entire feeding trough dry.
                      1. Gardamir
                        Gardamir 25 December 2018 17: 45
                        0
                        your whole feeding trough
                        Do you think my last name is Shuvalov? Or are you just a content troll?
                      2. Astoria
                        Astoria 25 December 2018 21: 36
                        -2
                        I don’t think anything, just from subject to subject you scribble the same thing. laughing
      4. Ros 56
        Ros 56 25 December 2018 14: 57
        +6
        Yes, even if it’s perceived, every day we are asked to throw in the box for the treatment of another child, so let them send this money to treat our children, and not the Belarusian economy.
    2. Alber
      Alber 25 December 2018 12: 50
      +3
      Seluyanov softly sly cunning fox
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 25 December 2018 12: 53
        +2
        Quote: Alber

        Seluyanov softly sly cunning fox

        He is a kitten compared to Lukashenko
        1. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 25 December 2018 13: 41
          +3
          According to Siluanov, both parties should have from the process equal benefits.

          What an interesting interpretation of the process ... fellow That's how the world works. For the procedure to have a beneficial effect on each participant, it must be carried out in accordance with their interests ... belay What should the Belarusian customs do to please the "genius" minister? I even find it difficult to answer this tricky question. By analogy with the equal benefits from the recent processes that took place in Russia:
          1. The Russians set a minimum wage of 11 rubles, and (???) deputies of the State Duma of the Russian Federation set a salary ceiling of 163? ... No.
          2. The Russians increased the retirement age to 60 (65) years, and the officials established the mandatory rotation of 5 years and a pension on a common basis? ... No.
          3. The Russians began to sell gasoline more expensive, and the owners set a higher personal income tax rate? ... No.
          the following should happen: should the Belarusian customs transfer all the proceeds to the RF Ministry of Finance? belay
          What did Mr. Siluanov interest the citizens of Russia in as Minister with an official salary of 1 rubles? You are the most ordinary ... I will not say this word. You are a person who illegally appropriates someone else’s property (in our case, money) in an atmosphere of impunity in certain disastrous situations (in our case, with your minimum contribution to the development of the economy and its meager growth) at a time when there is no money for citizens of the country.
          4
        2. Alber
          Alber 26 December 2018 18: 45
          0
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          He is a kitten compared to Lukashenko

          I agree. Comparing this small "tweak" with Lukashenka is even somehow inconvenient.
          Lukashenko is the OWNER. Comprehensive. The owner of his word. MAKHINA his state.
          And this ... I can’t even select the words for him, like the majority in the government. he is NOBODY and his name is NO.
          Moderators do not approve of my definition of this comrade
    3. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 25 December 2018 14: 00
      +1
      Quote: Less
      According to Siluanov, both parties should have equal benefits from the process.
      In my opinion this is fair.

      RB does not want to let our oligarchs enter its market! They have enough of their own. Not a word about this anywhere.
    4. Cheslav Tsursky
      Cheslav Tsursky 25 December 2018 14: 04
      +4
      Mdaaaaaaa ... Lukashenko’s terrible dream comes true. He arrives with a check at the Belarusian customs, and there the customs officers in an unusual form and point blank will not recognize the dad!
    5. Vlad.by
      Vlad.by 25 December 2018 15: 34
      0
      Quote: Less
      According to Siluanov, both parties should have equal benefits from the process.
      In my opinion this is fair.

      It is necessary to take into account the size of the economies - given that the Belarusian economy is only 4% of the Russian one, and accordingly the benefit of the Russian economy from the "process" should be 25 times greater, at least in terms of volume.
      Otherwise, the dog will spin around the crazy tail.
  2. den3080
    den3080 25 December 2018 12: 33
    0
    Butska with two hands shoots in a poppy ... in Belarusian smile
  3. Tusv
    Tusv 25 December 2018 12: 35
    +8
    For this, Belarusian and Russian customs officers must work together

    Do you what? Belarus immediately lard 10 will lose from smuggling
    1. Alber
      Alber 26 December 2018 19: 11
      0
      Quote: Tusv
      For this, Belarusian and Russian customs officers must work together

      Do you what? Belarus immediately lard 10 will lose from smuggling

      Judging by ourselves?
      Old Man saved the country, kept the industry, did not let the machines and equipment be stolen, as happened in Russia, Georgia, Kyrgyzstan, etc. etc.
      He didn't let you steal. For this you "God's chosen" hate him.
      And just let the money lenders go to Belarus and she will not be. There will be another Khazaria ...
      Old Man MUZHIK with steel yai tsami!
  4. Hypersound
    Hypersound 25 December 2018 12: 36
    -4
    Old Man is all. Minsknash and do not care
  5. ODERVIT
    ODERVIT 25 December 2018 12: 44
    +5
    Ours began to publicly doubt the sincerity of neighbors and friends. Looks like the demarches are tired.
  6. alekc75
    alekc75 25 December 2018 12: 45
    +2
    let him chew sanction
  7. Dym71
    Dym71 25 December 2018 12: 47
    +1
    Siluanov: All this sanction goes to us.

    All, but not all, as at the Belarusian customs "sanction, which will go to us" to determine?
    In fact, it turns out that Belarus needs to introduce quotas for the import of products (prohibited in the Russian Federation).
  8. GRIGORIY76
    GRIGORIY76 25 December 2018 12: 55
    +3
    The heat has gone, it seems ours decided to crush. No matter how Lukashenko closes and the Ukrainian scenario does not pass in Belarus.
    1. Vlad.by
      Vlad.by 25 December 2018 15: 38
      0
      Rather, the Crimean scenario will pass. And he knows that.
  9. Wolf
    Wolf 25 December 2018 12: 59
    +1
    How to integrate Socialism in Belarus and Capitalism in Russia? Can beat model Hong Kong and China?
    1. Vlad.by
      Vlad.by 25 December 2018 15: 39
      -1
      Yes, you must beat the erysipelas periodically. What would they not forget their place
  10. irazum
    irazum 25 December 2018 13: 03
    0
    Has the war begun? WITH THE ONLY ALLY?
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 25 December 2018 13: 06
      +2
      Quote: irazum
      WITH THE ONLY ALLY?

      Let the ally recognize Crimea as Russian
      1. prosto_rgb
        prosto_rgb 25 December 2018 13: 12
        +8
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Let the ally recognize Crimea as Russian

        First, let Gref acknowledge.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 25 December 2018 13: 13
          0
          Quote: prosto_rgb
          First, let Gref acknowledge.

          Gref does what they say to him from the Kremlin. And Lukash like an ally says
          1. prosto_rgb
            prosto_rgb 25 December 2018 13: 14
            0
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Gref does what they say to him from the Kremlin. And Lukash like an ally says

            THOSE. Are you suggesting that AHL be "holier than the Pope"?
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 25 December 2018 13: 16
              +1
              Quote: prosto_rgb

              THOSE. Are you suggesting that AHL be "holier than the Pope"?

              I suggest stopping borzi at our expense. Ally of horseradish, give money I will love.
              1. prosto_rgb
                prosto_rgb 25 December 2018 13: 24
                +5
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Ally of horseradish, give money I will love.

                And what exactly is in this phrase seditious?
                Wasn't Vladimir Vladimirovich, back in 2003, proposing to divide "flies from cutlets"?
                After 15 years, Alexander Grigoryevich understood the meaning of this phrase.
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 25 December 2018 13: 29
                  0
                  Quote: prosto_rgb
                  After 15 years, Alexander Grigoryevich understood the meaning of this phrase.

                  Is Grigorievich exactly written with a soft sign?
                  And once I understand the meaning of the phrase, then I must understand that love for money is prostitution!
                  1. prosto_rgb
                    prosto_rgb 25 December 2018 13: 40
                    0
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    Is Grigorievich exactly written with a soft sign?

                    It would be more correct, of course, to be firm, judging by yesterday’s press conference, but then, as it turned out, they could agree on something mutually beneficial.
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    And once I understand the meaning of the phrase, then I must understand that love for money is prostitution!

                    Based on the results of the negotiations, we will find out how much and why someone understands.
                    1. Alexander Romanov
                      Alexander Romanov 25 December 2018 13: 43
                      0
                      Quote: prosto_rgb

                      More correct, of course, would be with solid,

                      Oh, apparently they didn’t let me know that new rules of the Russian language were introduced
                      Quote: prosto_rgb
                      judging by yesterday's press conference, but how it happened, maybe they’ll agree on something mutually beneficial.

                      Shouts from Minsk - give me money, and for this we will call you fraternal people again
                      1. prosto_rgb
                        prosto_rgb 25 December 2018 13: 51
                        0
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Shouts from Minsk - give me money, and for this we will call you fraternal people again

                        it seems they gave money or not
                        or already integrated
                        "Sayuz vyalikі i svabodny." Anatoly Yarmolenko presented the anthem of the Union State
                        Read more: https://news.tut.by/culture/620483.html

                        By evening it will be clearer, or by night.
                      2. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 25 December 2018 13: 59
                        +1
                        Quote: prosto_rgb

                        it seems they gave money or not

                        If Luke says - I love Russia, then they gave
                        Quote: prosto_rgb
                        or already integrated
                        "Sayuz vyalikі i svabodny." Anatoly Yarmolenko presented the anthem of the Union State

                        Is this a variant of the anthem? And how many millions in Belarus speak this language Sayuz vyalikі i svabodny "?????
                      3. prosto_rgb
                        prosto_rgb 25 December 2018 14: 09
                        +3
                        It looks like negotiations are in full swing.
                        We are waiting for the final press conference.
                      4. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 25 December 2018 14: 14
                        +1
                        Quote: prosto_rgb

                        It looks like negotiations are in full swing.

                        Negotiations were already in their fourth hour ....
                        The drinks were getting stronger, the requirements were getting tougher
                      5. prosto_rgb
                        prosto_rgb 25 December 2018 14: 38
                        +2
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Negotiations were already in their fourth hour ....
                        The drinks were getting stronger, the requirements were getting tougher

                        and not picky
                2. Astoria
                  Astoria 25 December 2018 13: 32
                  +3
                  And what are you
                  red girls
                  that you love - you know your love where you can stick laughing - cutlets need to be practiced, but no - DAM already answered - you can leave the EAEU, the door opens in both directions. laughing
                  1. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 25 December 2018 13: 44
                    +1
                    Quote: Astoria
                    you can leave the EAEU

                    And join the EU wassat
    2. Astoria
      Astoria 25 December 2018 13: 12
      +2
      WITH THE ONLY ALLY?
      as the classic used to say

      more tear and add something "about houses for homeless pigs" laughing
  11. www3
    www3 25 December 2018 13: 16
    +5
    Quote: Tusv
    For this, Belarusian and Russian customs officers must work together

    Do you what? Belarus immediately lard 10 will lose from smuggling


    What kind of smuggling is it? )))
    can tell you how smuggling goes through St. Petersburg for $ 2 per kilo, no matter what))
    1. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 25 December 2018 13: 26
      -1
      Quote: www3
      What kind of smuggling is it? )))
      can tell you how smuggling goes through St. Petersburg for $ 2 per kilo, no matter what))

      Dear Ivan
      Do not Russophobia here so, atoms are not for an hour banned completely.
    2. Grigory b
      Grigory b 25 December 2018 15: 31
      +2
      [quote] [/ quote] In Russia, Vereshchagin was the last honest customs officer. I went beyond the cordon, I know how "honest" we have customs, ours will definitely expand the horizons of our father's customs.
  12. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 25 December 2018 13: 18
    +4
    In Stavropol massively cheap red caviar produced in Belarus is being sacked. laughing
    1. Alber
      Alber 26 December 2018 19: 22
      0
      Quote: vladimirvn
      In Stavropol massively cheap red caviar produced in Belarus is being sacked. laughing

      Duc, that is the Izrail caviar, in Haifa, in the basements, Jews slap on the knee and in Russia they fuse like a real fusion at half price
  13. www3
    www3 25 December 2018 13: 20
    -1
    Quote: Dym71
    Siluanov: All this sanction goes to us.

    All, but not all, as at the Belarusian customs "sanction, which will go to us" to determine?
    In fact, it turns out that Belarus needs to introduce quotas for the import of products (prohibited in the Russian Federation).


    in Krasnaya Gorka, the passage of the car costs from 10 to 45 thousand rubles!
    here enter or not enter quotas, darogie radiance will still be lucky, only in stores it will become more expensive.

    By the way, I can say that there are also good points in the sanctions - they nailed the prices of goods well!
  14. www3
    www3 25 December 2018 13: 23
    +3
    Quote: vladimirvn
    In Stavropol massively cheap red caviar, produced in Belarus, is being massively sold out.

    interesting alignment!))
    Is it that Russian caviar has already begun to be transported through Belarus? )))
    normal such effective management))
    1. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 25 December 2018 14: 13
      +2
      Quote: www3
      Is it that Russian caviar has already begun to be transported through Belarus? )))

      From ancient times Belarus was famous for rivers, lakes, seas and seafood.
  15. www3
    www3 25 December 2018 13: 34
    +5
    Quote: prosto_rgb
    Quote: www3
    What kind of smuggling is it? )))
    can tell you how smuggling goes through St. Petersburg for $ 2 per kilo, no matter what))

    Dear Ivan
    Do not Russophobia here so, atoms are not for an hour banned completely.


    I was always pinned by the moment when people begin to talk about Belarusian smuggling on the basis of what they got in their ears on TV, etc.))
    the funny thing is that when the customs duties are divided, the Russian Federation receives almost 90% of the duties from this "contraband"))
  16. vasek5533
    vasek5533 25 December 2018 13: 49
    +3
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: prosto_rgb
    First, let Gref acknowledge.

    Gref does what they say to him from the Kremlin. And Lukash like an ally says

    Ahah, it turns out the Kremlin does not recognize the Crimea? )) Who else recognized the Crimea from allies? And what, there are no such? ... ah, and there are no allies ... but how so ....
    Well, on the topic. Two years already, as the Russian Federation restored the border, and posts appeared in the 14th, and the sanction is still going on and on, what does the Belarusian customs have to do with it, catch your crooks ... but to whom I explain.
  17. www3
    www3 25 December 2018 13: 53
    +3
    Quote: vasek5533
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: prosto_rgb
    First, let Gref acknowledge.

    Gref does what they say to him from the Kremlin. And Lukash like an ally says

    Ahah, it turns out the Kremlin does not recognize the Crimea? )) Who else recognized the Crimea from allies? And what, there are no such? ... ah, and there are no allies ... but how so ....
    Well, on the topic. Two years already, as the Russian Federation restored the border, and posts appeared in the 14th, and the sanction is still going on and on, what does the Belarusian customs have to do with it, catch your crooks ... but to whom I explain.


    I’m wondering - whoever shouting for Belarusian shrimp can clearly explain how to determine whether or not they are from a subsidiary country? )))
  18. www3
    www3 25 December 2018 13: 56
    +2
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: Astoria
    you can leave the EAEU

    And join the EU wassat


    and in NATO)
  19. Gardamir
    Gardamir 25 December 2018 14: 04
    -1
    Here it is a great foreign policy in action. Until the Russian oligarchs stick to Belarus, declare the enemy. Oh, they’re not afraid in the Kremlin that they’re playing with fire! Or they do not care, daughters in the Netherlands shelter?
  20. Legend
    Legend 25 December 2018 19: 09
    +2
    Well, as usual here .. Old man is beaten, and WE are getting stronger! Hold on to Belarusians brothers, everything is going fine and do not pay attention to liberal cries, etc. soldier
    We still have strong ones in Russia (for now)

    Work is underway ..
  21. Vikmay16
    Vikmay16 25 December 2018 19: 43
    0
    There is no political vacuum, if not Russia, then the West will take over. By the way, how is Armenia?
  22. watchmaker
    watchmaker 25 December 2018 21: 24
    -1
    Daddyndelsya Old Man, the ball is hiding behind, now no seafood from the waters of Belarus, until they prove that they have a sea!
    1. Alber
      Alber 26 December 2018 19: 29
      0
      Quote: watchmaker
      Daddyndelsya Old Man, the ball is hiding behind, now no seafood from the waters of Belarus, until they prove that they have a sea!

      Watchmaking to the master: yes, your caviar, Jewish, is already clear. They saw through. bullshit. Even 30-40 years ago, your fellow tribesmen learned to make chicken eggs ...
  23. suhov17
    suhov17 26 December 2018 11: 21
    +1
    And why would Mityaev’s gang be satisfied if in Belarus they immediately put customs bribes and in Russia there isn’t a single honest customs officer at all. So the Russian cockerel is furious, imposing on the Russians the image of Belarus as the most terrible enemy.
    We are witnessing yet another attack of Belarusian-Rabies rabies.
    1. Alber
      Alber 26 December 2018 19: 31
      0
      Quote: suhov17
      And why would Mityaev’s gang be satisfied if in Belarus they immediately put customs bribes and in Russia there isn’t a single honest customs officer at all. So the Russian cockerel is furious, imposing on the Russians the image of Belarus as the most terrible enemy.
      We are witnessing yet another attack of Belarusian-Rabies rabies.

      Absolutely agree with you
  24. Bypassed
    Bypassed 26 December 2018 15: 46
    +2
    Dear Russians. Well, do not like the "bride", but let's disperse in a civilized way, without throwing fecal masses onto the fan. Belarus will somehow live without the orders of its older brother. I will not say that it will be easy. But not worse.