Deripaska is out of the game

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I would very much like to start by saying that one of the most prominent and closest to the head of state Russian businessmen was “outside the law." But this does not allow the very essence of the law itself, the American law, which put Oleg Deripaska in an “interesting position." As announced on behalf of the Department of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) of the US Treasury, in 30 days sanctions will be lifted from assets owned by the Russian billionaire in the En + group, EuroSibEnergo and Rusale. Rusal, we recall, is the second largest aluminum producer in the world with huge export volumes. For Russia, this is a strategically important company, and in respect of those, we still have special legislation that seriously limits foreign participation in capital and asset management.

The latest sanctions, which fell under the largest business structure and almost all the most famous Russian businessmen and bankers, were officially introduced in April 2018. Their real action began much later, and not on all fronts, and now, as we see, a rollback is expected. At the same time, Oleg Deripaska himself remains under sanctions, although it is now quite difficult to determine what they are. Probably, yet not only in the freezing of personal secret accounts or mansions in New York and Washington.



Deripaska is out of the game


In practice, everything turned out just in full accordance with the law, more precisely, with the laws of modern business. We saw the “brutal grin of capitalism” as early as the beginning of 90, and our current “victim” appeared on the privatization stage only a little later than the heroes of the unparalleled voucher combination and the pledge auctions. Today there are doubts whether it can be considered luck that Oleg Deripaska, when mass sawing, got a very significant part of the country's strategic heritage. Which, by the way, out of fears of possible deprivatization, read - nationalization, for the most part was trivially taken offshore. What the state has repeatedly looked at it.

But until recently, any kitchen politician could say just that - “lucky”. The default and permanent crises almost did not touch the head of the strategic Russian Aluminum, who also managed to join Norilsk Nickel, no less strategic. Then, in the Deripaska portfolio, there was an En + group of companies, which settled generally in London, but was mainly engaged in managing Russian assets, primarily energy assets, recorded on Oleg Vladimirovich. Well, when the Chubais team finally broke up the energy monopoly of RAO UES, the oligarch also became one of the owners of EuroSibEnergo.



All this time, such assets have regularly received support from the state, and twice - in fact, in the form of direct injections, if not directly from the budget, then from reserve funds. But how can it be otherwise? These are the structure-forming strategic enterprises. The fact that most of them successfully defended offshore, avoiding not only taxes but also any active use of “strategic” billions within the country, was considered not the greatest sin. In addition, the sin seems to be overwhelmed. Thousands of jobs with not the lowest wages, as well as the struggle to ensure that Russian companies and banks looked better against foreign competitors.

With the beginning of the sanctions wars, there was a persistent feeling that someone had already been squeezed, and Deripaska was not touched. After all, he not only bought a lot of foreign assets to Rusal, not only shoved everything that was possible, and sometimes even not, at offshore companies. He carefully diversified his assets, to put it simply - he laid his eggs in different baskets, and made it seem to be so as not to run up on sanctions. Suppose, they say, only that part of the business falls under them, which cannot be deduced from under the state wing by Russian legislation.

Today, as if Russian companies suddenly went to an unprecedented change in their corporate structures and management system. And all because they have become too vulnerable no longer for the Russian, but for the American, for example, the law. It was under this law that Rusal quickly shut down financial cranes from the best Western banks, and at the same time, almost all of the real foreign assets of the company went down. The aluminum giant has shrunk to indecent size and is now relying again on the state, from which it has long and stubbornly tried to distance itself. Apparently, the oligarch received the go-ahead to rescue the business from the state.

According to the business press, Oleg Deripaska himself is ready for a kind of deal with the American OFAC, reducing its stake in Rusal from 70 to 44,95%. How this will be implemented technically is not yet clear, since even with the additional issue of shares in favor of new American shareholders, by law, American, including for the oligarch, compensation should be provided. Perhaps just cash. In the meantime, only the expansion of the share in Rusal for the state-owned Russian bank VTB is announced as such.

At the same time, a much more serious blow to Deripaska as an entrepreneur would be serious restrictions in the management rights of the aluminum giant. Indeed, in the new conditions only 35% of its shares will remain voting, and for the rest a special option is provided - they are automatically added to the decision that wins when voting. Apparently, this is the main essence of the fact that sanctions are removed from companies, but not from their owner.

No less serious changes related to the sanctions will also affect the composition of the management of the companies, which until now were virtually completely controlled by Deripaska. So, the board of directors of the En + group of companies, which primarily controls the energy assets of the oligarch, must be at least half composed of US and UK citizens. As for Rusal, the sanctions directly affected the current chairman of the board of directors, Viktor Vekselberg, Oleg Deripaska’s long-term partner. He must leave his post. And it is planned to remove the companies from the Deripaska list from the sanctions within 30 days.

The fact that US sanctions are not at all comprehensive, but purely selective, was not said only by the lazy one. The system and methods of their circumvention have already turned into something very similar to the big sport. With workouts for wear, with expensive sports schools and notorious social elevators, but also with scandals and doping. In short, nothing superfluous - just business. However, the US sanctions became targeted against Oleg Deripaska and companies under his control only in April 2018, when Washington directly pointed to the businessman’s proximity to the Kremlin.

It took quite a bit of time, as in Washington, they said that sanctions can be lifted if the oligarch goes to reduce their own shares in the capital of companies under the sanction. Interestingly, by that time, the actual sanctions against the companies of the Russian billionaire had not yet begun to act. The American Ministry of Finance has extended the deadline for imposing sanctions on Rusal several times, and this practice has worked. But it not only helped to cool the aluminum market, which could overheat much after the April measures, and thus bring the same Oleg Deripaska not a headache, but additional profits. She also gave the oligarch more time for the most important thing - the transfer of control over Rusal and over the En + group based in London. None of the analysts recall the loss of positions in EuroSibEnergo - Deripaska doesn’t seem to be in charge there.



If now the case turns into a reshuffle on the boards of directors and an increase in the share of VTB, we will have the right to say that someone got off easy. But the cruel realities of business have once again confirmed the well-known truth - companies and banks that do not have a reliable state roof, easily, even effortlessly, turn into a racketeering object. And he does not necessarily have a place to be only within his own country.

But it’s still not entirely clear how the presence of such a large number of US and UK citizens in the management structures of companies, albeit private ones, albeit more than half offshore, but somehow of “strategic” importance for Russia, corresponds. Or does it actually turn out that the business is separate and the strategy is separate?
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  1. +11
    24 December 2018 15: 06
    fucking friends, galley ...
    1. -1
      24 December 2018 22: 01
      Nat, by the way, is a good friend, despite Deripaska’s stupid, at least.
  2. +10
    24 December 2018 15: 10
    "Or does it actually turn out that business is separate and strategy is separate?"
    it has long been understood, these business patriots were ready for everything, if only not to pay taxes at home
    1. -3
      24 December 2018 22: 02
      Business and strategy together, issue agreed with Medvedev. The company would still be budged and sold in parts. Either Tio Rinto or the Chinese, rather the Chinese.
      1. 0
        25 December 2018 09: 11
        Article...

        - Everything is fine, beautiful marquise,
        Things are going and life is easy
        Not a single sad surprise
        With the exception of a trifle:

        The stable burned down, the horses burned down, the house burned down, the Marquis shot himself, but this is nothing.
  3. +10
    24 December 2018 15: 16
    Two options for events:
    1. RUSAL is being nationalized, but this is in fact a revision of privatization and,
    2. RUSAL passes under the control of citizens of the United States and England.
    The government has already bought aluminum at a price of $ 1 per tonne above the exchange price. Who will leave this thousand? Compensation Deripaska or banal rollback?
    The re-registration of RUSAL does not have any consequences for the United States.
    1. +9
      24 December 2018 15: 29
      Quote: Silvestr
      Two options for events:

      I suppose they will try first of all, if not nationalization, then something very similar to it. Another thing is that our "partners" will not sit idly by either, but will insert sticks into the wheels by all available means.
      1. +7
        24 December 2018 16: 07
        Quote: Less
        try if not nationalization

        Dvorkovich said that the state cannot initiate nationalization. The owner can become the initiator. And the owner has already beaten off his grandmothers.
    2. +8
      24 December 2018 15: 39
      Quote: Silvestr
      RUSAL nationalize

      And then again they seize another oligarch ...
    3. -9
      24 December 2018 16: 50
      Quote: Silvestr
      RUSAL goes under the control of citizens of the USA and England

      Well, then we have Rosneft - "under the control" of a German citizen ... Schroeder there is such wink

      Quote: Silvestr
      The government has already bought aluminum at a price per ton of $ 1 thousand higher than the exchange price

      Source please, plz.

      Quote: Silvestr
      Who will leave this thousand? Compensation Deripaska or banal rollback?

      For now - just a shot at the fan. Source, Sylvester, source of secret knowledge - in the studio ...
      1. 0
        24 December 2018 17: 07
        En + was not in London, but in Jersey, and is now moving to Kaliningrad. October island.
        1. 0
          29 December 2018 21: 53
          Now not a fact. Why should new shareholders transfer the company to the jurisdiction of the Russian Federation?
      2. 0
        24 December 2018 22: 36
        Quote: Consultant
        Well, then we have Rosneft - "under the control" of a German citizen ... Schroeder there is such a wink

        Although you are a "Consultant", judging by your nickname, you are not a competent consultant. Schroeder has nothing to do with Rosneft. heads the German department of Nord Stream or Nordstrim hi
        1. -5
          24 December 2018 23: 00
          Quote: Captain45
          Schroeder has nothing to do with Rosneft

          Yeah. Absolutely none:

        2. 0
          26 December 2018 13: 29
          Schroeder is the chairman of the board of directors of PJSC NK Rosneft if anything. Don't mislead people.
      3. +2
        25 December 2018 10: 46
        Quote: Consultant
        Source please plz

        "In total, the state plans to buy up to 50 tons of aluminum. A ton of aluminum on the London Metal Exchange (LME) on Wednesday, November 000, cost $ 28 without a premium for the physical supply of metal. Thus, for the amount allocated by the government ($ 1926,5 million) you can buy about 148,6 tons of aluminum "
        https://www.vedomosti.ru/business/articles/2018/11/28/787732-rusal
        1. -5
          25 December 2018 11: 23
          Quote: aglet
          for the amount allocated by the government ($ 148,6 million), you can buy about 77 tons of aluminum

          Corrections:
          1. Amount not yet allocated, planned to be allocated up to 10 billion rubles... Two rubles, for example, is also "before".
          2. A conversation about how much luminium could be bought (with the money not yet allocated) "on Wednesday, November 28" - for the poor. Well, and for those who do not know how to read.

          Fail, try again ...
          1. +2
            25 December 2018 11: 29
            Quote: Consultant
            The conversation about how much luminium could be bought (with the money not yet allocated) "on Wednesday 28 November" is for the poor. Well, and for those who do not know how to read.

            you, I see, just don’t know how to read, everything is written there clearly it is clear that Medvedev is going to buy aluminum from the deripaska at a price higher than the market. and I won’t try anymore, it’s not my fault that you do not grasp elementary things well, I’m not going to explain anything to you, it’s enough that I already wrote. Sapienti sat - this is clearly not about you
            1. -3
              25 December 2018 11: 33
              Quote: aglet
              you, I see, just do not know how to read

              I know how laughing

              Quote: aglet
              everything is written specifically it is clear that Medvedev is going to buy aluminum from the Deripaska at a price that exceeds the market

              It is not written there. It says that in the amount of up to so many rubles it is planned to purchase up to so many tons of luminium. Sometime in the future.
              And all request

              Quote: aglet
              I will not try anymore

              Okay, don't cry anymore. wink
              1. -1
                25 December 2018 11: 47
                Quote: Consultant
                Okay, don't cry anymore.

                I never cry for nothing. and you for me, even less than a trifle
                1. -3
                  25 December 2018 11: 58
                  Quote: aglet
                  you are to me, even less than a trifle

                  Lots of text. Go learn logic, looser)))
                  1. 0
                    25 December 2018 13: 51
                    Quote: Consultant
                    Lots of text. Go learn logic, loader

                    I understand that it’s hard for you to read and understand so many letters at once. And where did you remember the word-logic, I didn’t seem to use it
                    1. -3
                      25 December 2018 14: 28
                      Quote: aglet
                      and how did you remember the word-logic, I didn’t seem to use it

                      The fact that you do not know a word (about the meanings of words is a separate conversation, somehow later) does not mean that everyone else does not know this either.

                      This simple thought, however, also requires logical thinking. Which, as far as I see, is missing from you. Completely request
          2. 0
            25 December 2018 11: 35
            Quote: Consultant
            The amount has not yet been allocated, it is planned to allocate up to 10 billion rubles

            highlight, do not worry about a holy thing ...
    4. +1
      24 December 2018 22: 03
      They wanted to nationalize, Sechin, for that and the intrigue with Rybka. Fake.
    5. 0
      25 December 2018 10: 37
      Quote: Silvestr
      Who will leave this thousand? Compensation Deripaska or banal rollback?

      will be divided in half
    6. 0
      26 December 2018 17: 57
      I recommend: ria.ru/20181221/1548371227.html
      On the author’s telegram channel there is still an addition to the article.
  4. +1
    24 December 2018 15: 32
    And they are not friends but partners, that’s how the United States and our partners are oligarchs ..
  5. +15
    24 December 2018 15: 43
    Well, and you say war. Our property, even without war, is already theirs, it remains only to kill the indigenous people on the territory, that is, you and I, and finita la comedy.
    1. -4
      24 December 2018 16: 48
      The words "war" and "sanctions" are for domestic consumers (ie for Russian citizens). During the war 1941-1945. there was a blackout in Moscow. During a war, all financial and material resources are used to fight the enemy. We have ...
      P.S. "... Moscow will spend almost 1,4 billion rubles on New Year's celebrations. The Moscow authorities will spend almost 1,4 billion rubles on the New Year holidays, RBC calculated. This is half as much as last year. The funds will be spent on lighting, installations , artificial trees and fireworks ... "
      Подробнее на РБК: https://www.rbc.ru/politics/20/12/2017/5a392e4e9a79474d4fbd0133
    2. +2
      24 December 2018 22: 40
      Quote: Altona
      Our property is even more theirs without war

      Yeah, theirs ... 24% of RusAl shares were donated, as Sova said, simply for nothing, transferred to the state bank VTB. So, "if a buffalo is written on the cage with a tiger, do not believe your eyes" K. Prutkov
  6. +8
    24 December 2018 16: 15
    Russia actually loses control over its aluminum industry and transfers it to the Americans and the British after the implementation of the “Barker Plan” (TOR) proposed by the former British Energy Minister Gregory Barker.
    According to this plan, Deripaska gave up control over assets, reducing his share of voting shares to 35%.
    Of the 12 En + directors, only four can be nominated by Deripaska. The remaining 8 will be independent, 6 of them must be citizens of the United States and Britain. Compliance will be monitored by the Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) of the US Treasury.
    En +, RusAl and Eurosibenergo will have to report monthly to OFAC (Office of Foreign Assets Control, the US Treasury department responsible for enforcement of sanctions) on the fulfillment of the agreed conditions. The regulator reserves the right to re-impose sanctions if conditions are violated.

    Economy 23:31, December 19, 2018
    https://www.interfax.ru/business/643188
    1. -13
      24 December 2018 16: 45
      The picture is completely out of place.

      Sylvester, would you not write about what you don’t understand wink

      Help those who suffer better ... in their free time from trolling laughing
    2. +3
      24 December 2018 17: 29
      Quote: Silvestr
      Deripaska gave up control over assets, reducing his share of voting shares to 35%.

      Well, if it’s diminished somewhere, it means it’s increased somewhere .... And it’s increased in the VTB Bank, and it’s a state bank! tongue
      1. -4
        24 December 2018 20: 08
        Quote: You Vlad
        Silvester will not write about this to us

        At no time, the lack of any knowledge of the subject and "religion" (#vsepropaloputinloh) will not allow.

        The internet is certainly a good thing. But, like any stick, it has two ends - the number of "connoisseurs" and "experts on any subject" is simply off scale, and they usually carry the wildest game request
      2. 0
        4 January 2019 10: 36
        Quote: You Vlad
        Well, if it’s diminished somewhere, it means it’s increased somewhere .... And it’s increased in the VTB Bank, and it’s a state bank!


        I am not at all an economist, but I also don’t understand how it is: Deripaska has 35%, VTB 24%, and the Anglo-Saxons have a majority stake? Maybe they sweetened the pill this way? Maybe that's why they leave Syria? A donkey loaded with gold takes any fortress. There was also a lot of screaming about the atomic deal that they sold to Russia. As a result, the United States was left without a nuclear industry, and we are ahead of the rest ...
    3. +2
      24 December 2018 22: 04
      He does not lose, but only gains a strong producer if they do everything, but they do.
    4. 0
      24 December 2018 22: 42
      Quote: Silvestr
      Russia actually loses control over its aluminum industry and transfers it to the Americans and the British after the implementation of the “Barker Plan” (TOR) proposed by the former British Energy Minister Gregory Barker.

      Is the plan already in force? Are the seats occupied by US and British citizens? "Announce the entire list, pzhalsta" (c)
      1. 0
        25 December 2018 08: 56
        Quote: Captain45
        Announce the entire list, please

        what Wait Maleho, right now Sylvester SBU will drop the list and he will please us with his knowledge!
  7. +7
    24 December 2018 16: 24
    I don't understand the excitement around the Rusal company. This company is registered offshore, owned by a Cypriot citizen. This company has nothing to do with the state of Russia (though it spoils the Russian nature and uses raw materials). Under today's Power, even if it is now nationalized, after a short period of time, it will still be the property of a "worthy and respected" person. For so many years this company has been offshore and suddenly now it is "pulled home". Funny and sad.
    P.S. "... The classic scheme of using offshore companies to reduce taxes looks like this: a Russian manufacturer sells goods (oil, metals, timber, etc.) to a company registered in an offshore at a reduced price, which then resells them to end buyers at a real market price. Thus, the main profit from the transaction settles on the offshore accounts. It is important to remember about the Tax Code (Article 40). In addition, insurance schemes can be used here to withdraw part of the profits used by holding companies from taxation. The holding creates an offshore the insurance company, insures through it the risks for which an insured event will not occur and transfers part of the profit to insurance premiums, then these funds in the form of loans are again brought into the main holding.
    The scheme for hiding assets is also quite simple: shares of a Russian company are transferred to a company registered in offshore. Bottom line: the owner of the enterprise is a foreign company, the real Russian owner of the enterprise is relieved of the need to arrange permanent meetings of shareholders and bear the risks associated with possible litigation, raider seizures, etc. ... US Rusal turned out to be the global industry champion in tax optimization. “Registration” on the island of Jersey and the use of tolling allow the company to retain up to 90% of profit. The scheme of movement of commodity and cash flows, allowing US Rusal to minimize tax payments, is partially described in the prospectus for the placement of shares as part of an IPO on the Hong Kong Exchange. The main trader of the group - RTI Limited - is registered in the same place as the parent company: in Jersey. It is RTI that owns Rusalov’s alumina and aluminum obtained from it, and therefore, in the best years of RTI, up to 60% of the profit of the entire holding was reached ....
    The RS International tolling company, in agreement with RTI supplying alumina to plants and taking aluminum back, is registered in Switzerland. Aluminum intended for export from Russian plants returns to RTI, and another Swiss trader - RusalMarketing - sells this metal to consumers under an agency agreement with a Jersey company. The fact is that profits are not taxed on Jersey, and in Switzerland, trading companies, by agreement with the authorities of the cantons, can count on a rate within 10%, and for agents, the rate can drop to a few percent. As a result, US Rusal has the lowest effective income tax rate among direct competitors in the world.
    If tomorrow all offshore zones were closed, what would our country receive - even if the exported money did not return? ANN experts believe that the minimum is a double increase in the budget. But not only. The growth of budget revenues would make it possible to sharply reduce the VAT, which is devastating for enterprises, to reduce social contributions inhibiting the growth of wages, and once and for all solve the problems of the Pension Fund. Even greater would be the economic effect.
    Unable to take funds abroad (with the exception of personal income after taxes), the oligarchs would have to invest them in projects in Russia: to modernize industry, increase the output of all types of products, compete with each other, conquer foreign markets ... "
  8. +2
    24 December 2018 17: 16
    Was Rusal will become USal. Oh, it’s a pity that some people can’t be rolled into aluminum.
  9. 0
    24 December 2018 17: 55
    There are several interesting moments in the story with Deripaska, without understanding which it is impossible to understand what is really happening. The first moment is the story with "Rybka", which entailed very strong dissatisfaction with the subject from those who actually run Russia. The second is the role of the Swiss trader Glencore in the present situation. Those who are in the subject know what kind of "trader" is .... wink
    1. -2
      24 December 2018 20: 18
      Quote: Snail N9
      Those who are in the subject know what kind of "trader" is

      Come on, come on ... what do you "know" there, I wonder? wink
      1. 0
        24 December 2018 20: 23
        Come on, come on ... what do you "know" there, I wonder?

        "Banned from Google"? I sympathize..... laughing
        1. -2
          24 December 2018 20: 24
          Quote: Snail N9
          "Banned from Google"?

          Do not move off the topic ... those.

          There is a correct rule: if you said "a", then speak up. And what is Glencore, I just know, I wonder exactly what you "learned" about him... from google wink
          1. 0
            24 December 2018 20: 59
            Read ... those and find out ... those. Since you know ... those, why ask ... those? wink
            1. -2
              24 December 2018 21: 34
              Quote: Snail N9
              Read ... those and find out ... those

              What to read? Point your finger ... those?

              Quote: Snail N9
              Since you know ... those, why ask ... those?

              I do not know what you mean. And do not have to know. I ask about that.

              But for some reason you spin the basin, instead of clearly to explain - why did you find out so interesting ... from Google.

              Campaign, say something and nothing? Well, expected request
              1. +3
                24 December 2018 22: 22
                He does not know anything, since these materials were available only to those to whom he could not even go into the office or chat. See above. The Rusal will do a market maneuver; for this, intra-industry and inter-industry aggregation of the production cycle is used. Intra-industry will help restore the technological gap. As the cycle changes, it is immediately done in the context of Industry 4.0.
                Well .. I wrote your "sanctions are only for the benefit", this is version 3.0, however, here it is beneficial not only for the Russian Federation, but also for the United States, in order to withdraw Rusal, first of all, for Glencore from sanctions. If Deripaska could not recover the amount of assets, he would not have given anything.
                The Pentagon’s enthusiasm you heard before, now it’s no worse, even more detailed.
                I asked for help (yours threatened), they helped me, I helped with Rusal as I could, but I no longer have the right to a decision. Everything is transmitted. Agreed question Medvedev.
                The decision is beautiful, no worse than your economic model, which was used in the sanctions.
              2. +3
                24 December 2018 22: 25
                The matter is that Deripaska himself started a question with Rybka. Highpile theme is his people. Almost lost the company in favor of Sechin.
              3. +3
                24 December 2018 22: 30
                I mean, to "close the technology gap." Now he cannot do anything, there are very large debts and you will not move.
            2. +2
              25 December 2018 00: 32
              I want to note that, unlike me, who does not have secrecy, you have it, since there was no connection anywhere between Glencore’s discontent and the situation with Nastya Rybka in Google. That is, you brazenly endure Old Prime.
              I have long wanted to tell you, tell colleagues. Instead of making insiders in forums and in Nezygar, where, in experience, there are only traces of objective information, you need to write works in the Government of the Russian Federation on the same Rusal so that foreign owners of companies do not conduct diplomatic negotiations for you. You did nothing to implement from my old files, according to my materials, except what Medvedev himself did. You better tell us about the most likely connection between Shuvalov’s refusal from Davos and Rusal. Do not put a pig to everyone and call other people's work their own! Somehow I was not going to drag you around my neck.

              March to work! And keep your mouth shut, I’m not the FSB, I’ll tear one place off.
    2. 0
      24 December 2018 22: 07
      You always feel like pondering when no one knows anything. You say that Deripaska himself ordered a story with Rybka to set Manafort up, and set him up under sanctions so that he could nationalize Sechin's company. Under the Left Arms Trade, Booth No. 2.
      Can you tell me for the big deal that Nezyar talked about?
      Deripaska flew with Vekselberg for a reason, but since Glencore planted it several times.
    3. +2
      24 December 2018 22: 39
      You’ll be smart, you’ll get through the brains. And Glencore needs new markets, which, I won’t tell you. Because it’s Glencore’s business. I hope you understand, since even vpn will not save you, IPs will be handed over. Do not stick your nose out of your question.
  10. 0
    24 December 2018 18: 21
    hand washes a hand, a thief drives a thief, you can go on ad infinitum, what crooks do with a country
    1. +1
      24 December 2018 22: 08
      There is no theft, just a strong debt burden of the company, this is a big drawback. The company is incapable of market maneuver. And soon it will be knocked out of the market. Therefore, new managers, different "pools" do not need to be filled.
  11. +1
    24 December 2018 18: 35
    The states simply showed the oligarchy a carrot and stick. Voila, choose what you want. Right now, many will fuss about trying to bargain for a thread.
    1. +1
      24 December 2018 22: 08
      No, it's about something else.
  12. +2
    24 December 2018 20: 52
    Quote: Silvestr
    RUSAL is nationalized, but this is in fact a revision of privatization

    Quote: Less
    I believe that they will try first if not nationalization

    One smart economist, forgot his name, said about the nationalization of enterprises and banks in Russia:
    "Socialism is, first of all, not nationalization, but a socialist method of managing the national economy. In our country, they are trying to nationalize it under capitalist methods of management. Nothing will come of it except total theft."
  13. +2
    24 December 2018 21: 48
    Well, about luck, they turned it down. I remember a story from my youth .. Do not have a hundred friends and marry like Ajubey. Who doesn’t remember-Ajubey’s son-in-law Khrushchev Marrying Yumashev’s daughter and my stall would save. Yeltsin’s wife’s daughter’s turn .. As the deck is fantastically shuffled .. It didn’t say Woland
    1. +2
      24 December 2018 22: 09
      Most likely, Yumashev also got on the brain.
  14. +2
    25 December 2018 08: 35
    For Russia, this is a strategically important company, and with respect to those, we still have special legislation that severely restricts foreign participation in capital and asset management.
    nationalization is the answer, but the authorities have a very small and weak intestine (small intestine) and small shriveled eggs (it’s easier to peel your people (VAT + retirement age) than to quarrel with the bourgeoisie for a piece of their property. ff 33 times. am
  15. -1
    25 December 2018 10: 41
    Quote: Captain45
    Quote: Altona
    Our property is even more theirs without war

    Yeah, theirs ... 24% of RusAl shares were donated, as Sova said, simply for nothing, transferred to the state bank VTB. So, "if a buffalo is written on the cage with a tiger, do not believe your eyes" K. Prutkov

    24% is so much, and when you consider that in VTB the state has 60%, then even less
  16. -1
    27 December 2018 11: 51
    Fuck the new country driban! And if the people do not wake up, then Russia will be left without ownership of the means of production, energy, mineral resources and land. The cowardly thief surrenders everything to the West.
  17. 0
    5 January 2019 08: 21
    But the harsh realities of business have once again confirmed the well-known truth - companies and banks that do not have a reliable state roof can easily, even playfully turn into an object of racketeering.
    that’s why all state-owned corporations are afraid of sanctions as a trait of incense, except for those specially created as Victory, no state roof helps abroad, since other laws, rules and rules apply abroad and we cannot impose anything on them, what ultimatums are we can put forward? stop selling them oil and gas? Sechin and Miller will burn at the stake the one who offers it, and the Americans are just waiting for this to shove their shale