Fraternally: 2 member of the EAEU "abstained" in voting on the resolution against the Russian Federation

The full list of delegations at the UN General Assembly, which rejected the Ukrainian resolution against Russia, was published. We are talking about a draft resolution in which Kiev proposed to condemn Russia for the construction of the Crimean Bridge, the "militarization" of the Crimea, the Black and Azov Seas. Recall that as a result, the anti-Russian resolution was adopted, but this time they supported it to a much lesser extent than during voting on past similar projects.

Who voted against the Ukrainian draft resolution? The list of countries is as follows: Armenia, Belarus, Bolivia, Burundi, Cambodia, Cuba, DPRK, Iran, Laos, Myanmar, Nicaragua, Serbia, Syria, Sudan, South Sudan, Uzbekistan, Venezuela, Zimbabwe and the Russian Federation itself. Total - 19 countries.

The Ukrainian draft resolution, which denies Russia the elementary right to protect its borders, supported the 66 countries. It is clear that this is Ukraine and all NATO countries. But there are very significant aspects. So, frankly anti-Russian resolution supported Turkey, whose foreign minister a few weeks ago called the Russian Federation an “ally”. In the same list Israelseeking partnership after numerous provocations in Syria, as well as telling about friendly intentions Japan.

But even this is not as surprising as the position of individual countries from the Eurasian Economic Union. So, Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan decided to “wash their hands” and prudently (whatever it happened) to abstain. This is brotherly ...

Monument to Nazarbayev

That is, Uzbekistan, which is not a member of the EAEU, supported Russia, and representatives of Bishkek and Astana decided that it would be better to stay away from presenting an unambiguous position aside.

Comments

[Theodore]

And nefig it was for the Kyrgyz to forgive their debts! Well, yes, they will make them soon!

[Machito]

Russia’s allies are simply nowhere to go.
Even under the tsars and communists, Russia has never been as politically isolated as it is now.
But Lavrov is the best.

[silverwolf88]

you probably don’t know the story well ... it happened more than once ... for example, after entering a limited contingent of troops in Afghanistan ...

[Machito]

Quote: silberwolf88

you probably don’t know the story well ... it happened more than once ... for example, after entering a limited contingent of troops in Afghanistan ...

Nonsense. Many countries did not go to the US Olympics because of solidarity with the USSR in response to the boycott of the Moscow Olympics, and now the closest allies are paraffinizing us.

[For example]

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Neither Kazakhs nor Kyrgyz will vote for the return of Russian lands to Russia.
Because they are afraid of losing what they now call their own.

[krot]

Thanks to the fraternal peoples in the former USSR, as well as to the other fraternal ones .. There is no other way to say it, because now is the moment that spread everything connected with Russia! Well, Kazakhs respect! Sorry .. Time will judge. And God is with us!

[Slavs]

Well, you understand that it is not the people who make decisions, just like ours ... The elites decide ... Or do you think that every single Kazakh has refrained? Although the next generation will not even want to know us ... But time will really judge. All.

[Fan-fan]

So will judge? Was Stalin judged by time? There is still no monument to him, they are still afraid to return the great name to the city on the Volga.

[northern]

Quote: Fan-Fan

There is still no monument to him

But nonsense is not necessary, here are modern monuments to Stalin, with places and dates of installation
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Памятники_Сталину#Современные_памятники

[Slavs]

Quote: Fan-Fan

There is still no monument to him

Well, Yeltsin already built a whole center, but what kind of memory did he have among the people? And what about Stalin? Yes, I am for Stalingrad.

[Govorun]

I disagree a little, but in a brotherly way the Soviet Union "threw" all its brothers and said, live as you want .... and whoever could survived as best they could, so why be surprised that now they also voted "brotherly" .... but here is such a situation that if we do not take them to ourselves, then others will do it, our enemies and our problems will only increase.

[tolancop]

And in your opinion, the Soviet Union (I remind you that BOTH words are written with a CAPITAL), should have continued to dump their resources, tearing them away from their own population? The "big brother" had problems and it was fair to offer the "younger brothers" to live at their own expense.

[Arthur 2700]

Well, if the parents of alcoholics handed over their children to an orphanage, then what problems do the children have if they don’t want to see you, and the parents demand a bottle. ..... why not resource-rich allies should lose billions for you on your sanctions ???? After all, we did not introduce sanctions and you didn’t even ask us? And if we introduce sanctions against gas sales in the EU, will you immediately approve this? I don’t think that Dima will refuse an iPhone. ....

[Slavs]

Well, so the children shouted about independence and wanted to leave the parental home ...))) And now the folder forgive debts, the folder would be cheaper gas for us, the folder should protect our borders ... etc.
And how to become a folder against a basurman, so right away it, this folder will also come by itself, God forbid ...)))

[Arthur 2700]

Well, let's say not everyone shouted, and the people voted 85% for the union !!! But your struggle needed a one-man power without a union center! The Russians themselves shouted, enough to feed, although sausage and buttered trains were coming from us to Smolensk ..... now why blame it? There are no ugly allies, we don’t like going to the EU. With what fright should we tighten our belts for your Crimea? And if together, share the gas together. And then I want to dance, but I do not want to pay! Join our structure in the Moscow province and mustache are good! )))

[Beringovsky]

Wait a minute, but wasn’t your Shushkevich and Yeltsin and Kravchuk in Belovezhskaya Pushcha, where they decided everything for everyone?

[Arthur 2700]

Shushkevich, like Kravchuk, were pawns, Borka called everyone to throw off a hunchback, didn’t he say, take sovereignty as much as you want! ? Didn't he feed Dudaev? Why didn’t they send Alpha? Or is it Shushkevich who ruled the USSR ???? They were extras. But it is better for Russia to monitor its territories, is there no problem in the Tatorstan Caucasus? Unfortunately, Russia will not be able to confront the West, not economically, not technologically ....... or maybe this is not necessary at all. All resources to the west, money, to the west, real estate citizenship and permanent residence there! Only propaganda for the lyakhtorat is driven for greatness. I do not recognize people of peace and borders, I give up the word I teach in different languages! ))))) sarcasm! )

[BecmepH]

Quote: Arthur 2700

don't like it let's go to the EU

So bring down! Well still not gone? Go away, die out of hunger and cold. There will not be a freebie.

[Setrac]

Quote: Arthur 2700

Russians shouted, stop feeding

This is a lie, the Russians did not shout "enough to feed", it was shouted by other republics - enough to feed Russia.
Like everything else you wrote is a lie.

[Serg koma]

Quote: Setrac

Russians did not shout "enough to feed"

So now those are shouting - who it is ("enough to feed Russia") and shouted, or youngsters from a zombie.

[your1970]

Quote: Setrac

This is a lie, the Russians did not shout "enough to feed", it was shouted by other republics - enough to feed Russia.

"So, the chairman of the Council of Ministers of Russia Mikhail Solomentsev (formerly the secretary of the Central Committee for heavy industry) said:" When ... Brezhnev recommended me for the post ... I set only one condition: stop shutting up Russia... Leonid Ilyich, I remember, did not understand me, asked: "What does it mean to shut up?" I explained: the sectoral departments of the Central Committee and the union government directly command the Russian regions and specific enterprises, guided more by the interests of the union republics than by Russia itself, Gosplan also prioritizes the interests of the Union republics, leaving Russia only crumbs from the all-Union table. "

[Setrac]

Quote: your1970

guided more by the interests of the union republics than of Russia itself, the State Planning Committee also prioritizes the interests of the union republics, leaving Russia only crumbs from the all-union table. "

But this is true.

Quote: your1970

Chairman of the Council of Ministers of Russia Mikhail Solomentsev

One Russian, not Russians in the plural. And he did not say “enough to feed someone there,” but only insisted on a more equitable distribution of the Union budget.

[your1970]

Quote: Setrac

One Russian

-Do you have a little pre-Council?

Quote: Setrac

And he did not say “enough to feed someone there,” but only insisted on a more equitable distribution of the Union budget.

- literally

Quote: your1970

leaving Russia only crumbs from the all-Union table "".

- translated into Russian means "let's divide it differently - Russia give a lot more"

[Beringovsky]

And what does the Solomentsev have to do with it ?!
The union that under Brezhnev fell apart?

[Setrac]

Quote: your1970

- translated into Russian means "let's divide it differently - we will give Russia much more"

Translated, this means let's not take everything away from the RSFSR - in order to give it to other SSRs.

Quote: your1970

-Do you have a little pre-Council?

Few, very few. He is one Russian, and not “many Russians,” as someone argued.

[aglet]

Quote: your1970

- translated into Russian means "let's divide it differently - we will give Russia much more"

it means who earned how much

[your1970]

Quote: Setrac

Translated, this means let's not take everything away from the RSFSR - in order to give it to other SSRs.

Quote: aglet

it means who earned how much

- and this means: "Stop feeding the outskirts - producing nothing!" said OTHER in words
That is what Solomentsev said For a long time until 1991 th ....

Quote: Setrac

He is one Russian, and not “many Russians,” as someone argued.

-he had OPPORTUNITY, in contrast to these "many !!!", really move the flows of material values ​​in the USSR, redistributing them between the republics of the USSR


wording difference
there is A and there is B.
You can say "Let's leave everything to A !!", or you can say "Let's give B less !!!" ....
The wording is different - the essence is the same: B sits without pants and rubs the snot in the face

[aglet]

Quote: your1970

The wording is different - the essence is the same: B sits without pants and rubs the snot in the face

let him try to work

[Fan-fan]

Ish you cunning, gas means it shares with him. What will you share with us? What do you have? Only promises of friendship. So he will smile at us and declare friendship, and we will give him gas, oil and so on. Here is the greyhound!

[aglet]

Quote: Arthur 2700

There are no idle allies, I don’t like it, let's go to the EU

flag in your hands. some have already gone. about free allies, if for money, already a prostitute turns

[Slavs]

Well, the fight is not ours, the skin is corrupt, an adventurer, a lamp for farmers, speculators, dissidents, cooperatives and fighters for freedom of speech ...)

Quote: Arthur 2700

With what fright should we tighten our belts for your Crimea? And if together, share the gas together

Well then, with what fright does it share gas? ))) And in general, the gas is not ours, but the oligarchs, we have only wealth ... Do you want to get with us? )))

[SOF]

Quote: Talgat 148

In the capital of Kazakhstani metallurgists

.... wow ... well, google it .... who built the plant for the "Kazakh metallurgists" and how many Kazakhs are working there now ..... tell a new story .... I hope you did not dig the Caspian Sea, how are some.? ....

[Talgat 148]

The Soviet people, and the Kazakhstanis work there! Right now I'm talking about the Kazakh people, it’s not customary to divide us into nations, we are a multinational friendly republic !!!! We have preserved the traditions of internationalism, because until the very last we tried to preserve the Union and the latter declared independence no longer .....

[Slavs]

Quote: Talgat 148

In the capital of Kazakhstani metallurgists!

And did they build metallurgical plants under the American folder or under the Chinese?

[Slavs]

Well, a little bit recaptured, yes. I understand that the bast shoes are far from the Genghisides, but you are not outraged that the United States has repudiated itself great, no? Moreover, this folder is immediately bogged down and spanked by leather democracy ... But the Celestial Empire also considers itself very great. Does this bother you? )))

[Talgat 148]

Someone thinks of me on the drum! I love my homeland, and no one threatens us !!! We all offer friendship and mutual respect! And fears to drive your talent!

[Eula]

Parents of alcoholics handed over their children to an orphanage and DIED. .But then relatives arrived and say that the children owe them something (

[Govorun]

Well, if we don’t dump, then others will pour in, which is incomprehensible to you, just don’t, that there may soon appear military bases of "exceptional" and then our money will need to be poured into something to resist this and the same at the expense of the population, WHAT HAS CHANGED ??? Only out of two ASHs, they choose the smallest, and if they needed to be allowed to live at their own expense, but not by such measures as they did to them, but more smoothly and not to leave without our influence ... but you are probably not very far-sighted ... but the main thing is to know how the Soviet Union is spelled, and the rest is not important. And so, following your logic, maybe you can offer the same to some regions or individual peoples to live AT YOUR OWN ACCOUNT ...

[jovanni]

Quote: Govorun

I disagree a little, but in a brotherly way the Soviet Union "threw" all its brothers and said, live as you want .... and whoever could survived as best they could, so why be surprised that now they also voted "brotherly" ..

I apologize, I didn’t understand a bit ... What Soviet Union do you say that he "threw" someone? Weren't the same Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Georgia, Ukraine, etc., 14 in total (in addition to Russia) part of the USSR? And who threw whom?

[Tochilka]

In all fairness, it all started with Yeltsin, when he signed the document on the independence of the RSFSR. And the parade of "sovereignties" and other "independences" rushed ... If only in very general terms.

[not main]

Quote: Tochilka

In all fairness, it all started with Yeltsin, when he signed the document on the independence of the RSFSR. And the parade of "sovereignties" and other "independences" rushed ... If only in very general terms.

Sorry, but this is hell! I myself remember how in Ukraine in 1990 you could easily take a loan for 20 mp, and already in the 91st they introduce coupons! Here is the reason for you! Downloaded the money and gave in return candy wrappers! By the way, at this time in Ukraine there was no gasoline at the gas station, everything was resold in the EU. He left with a TS-2 car.

[AndreyS]

Quote: Tochilka

In all fairness, it all started with Yeltsin, when he signed the document on the independence of the RSFSR. And the parade of "sovereignties" and other "independences"

In all fairness, it was a little different than you presented it. Let's turn to history dear "...The beginning of the “parade of sovereignty” is usually associated with the declaration in November 1988 of the Declaration of Sovereignty of the Estonian USSR, which emphasized the priority of intra-republican laws over the All-Union ones. In addition, it stated the requirement to review the status of Estonia as part of the Soviet Union ... During 1989, two other Baltic republics - the Lithuanian SSR and the Latvian SSR, as well as the Azerbaijan SSR - declared their sovereignty and supremacy of republican legislation over the Union. The first territorial entity that announced its withdrawal from the largest state in the world was the Nakhichevan Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic. It happened in January 1990, after a bloody dispersal by security forces protesters in Baku. However, this declaration of independence did not receive a real embodiment. The “parade of sovereignty” in the Baltic countries was much more successful. In March 1990, the Lithuanian SSR announced its secession from the Soviet Union. In May, the governments of the Estonian SSR and the Latvian SSR repeated this procedure, and in August the Armenian SSR. In May 1991, the Georgian SSR announced the independence of the world... "- Read more on SYL.ru: https://www.syl.ru/article/202687/new_parad-suverenitetov-v-sssr-ponyatie-prichinyi
You deceived, or rather presented the story as you are profitable!)))

[Arthur 2700]

Russia threw the republic in a struggle with 91 g!

[Talgat 148]

Russia, Belarus and Ukraine! You threw us and the first to leave the USSR!

[aglet]

Quote: Talgat 148

Russia, Belarus and Ukraine! You threw us and the first to leave the USSR!

so what? it was a long time ago, now you are still sucking money from Russia, as you used to from the USSR. could conduct a more loyal policy. And to those who say this government is bad, but the people are for it. here it is, the people, specifically presents

[Fan-fan]

They’ll never see their own missiles, probably never, they are envious, although they have huge grandmas from Russia for using Baikonur.

[Dirty Harry]

Quote: Talgat 148

You threw us and the first to leave the USSR!

Talgat, remind you which of the union republics first staged a show under the motto: "Each people - their leader!" Hint: December 16, 1986, "New Square" of Alma-Ata.

[Talgat 148]

What's wrong with that?! Normal Soviet slogan !!!

[Dirty Harry]

Quote: Talgat 148

What's wrong with that?! Normal Soviet slogan !!!

The slogan is possible. But the riots - not particularly. By the way, it is interesting: why at the Faculty of Law and Journalism of KazSU, which were "lit" there, even then the representatives of the titular nation accounted for 98% (despite the fact that in Alma-Ata there were less than half of the titular ones)?

[Talgat 148]

The title ones have always sought knowledge! And not the title ones - no.

[Dirty Harry]

Quote: Talgat 148

The title ones have always sought knowledge! And not the title ones - no.

it must be understood that in Kazakhstan, Kazakhs have always sought knowledge, and Russians have not. And in Russia, Russians sought knowledge, but all the other numerous nations did not. The logic is awesome ...
Kazakhs say: "Give the Elder Zhuz a staff and let the cattle graze, give the Middle Zhuz a feather and let him settle disputes, give the Younger Zhuz a spear and send it to the enemy." All the famous enlighteners of Kazakhstan come from Medium Zhuz. All students of the law faculty and journal faculty of KazGU (titular nation) in 1986 were from Senior zhuz - like all participants in the "December events". Riddle ...

[Eula]

The work of enemy intelligence. Plus - the notorious fish always rots from the intelligentsia (

[romb]

Well, your knowledge of Kazakh reality. very superficial. In short, we got somewhere in the network of various nonsense. And now you give this for knowing the Kazakh essence.))

[Dirty Harry]

Quote: romb

Well, your knowledge of Kazakh reality. very superficial. In short, we got somewhere in the network of various nonsense.

Actually, I lived in Kazakhstan for 40 years. And I observed the events of December 1986 with my own eyes - then we didn’t even have a Network!

[aglet]

Quote: Talgat 148

What's wrong with that?! Normal Soviet slogan !!!

and us for sho?

[Serg koma]

Quote: Jovanni

Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Georgia, Ukraine, etc., with a total of 14

1990, USSR
[media = [media = https: //youtu.be/pv-w5vITIqQ]]
Normal people do not scream, they say.
Irina Samarina, Ukraine, Poltava

[Arthur 2700]

I will join the above

[Waddimm]

Quote: Govorun

The Soviet Union "threw"

Your untruth. In the late 80s, the local national elites in order to completely seize power actively fueled nationalist sentiment, which resulted in many ethnic conflicts.
As a result of the spineless position of the leadership of the USSR and the meanness of local elites, the country was fragmented into artificial formations.

[Talgat 148]

https://youtu.be/99QM2MRp_pg

[kuz363]

Let’s take it to ourselves, don’t take it .... These are independent states, not goods on the market. And even a referendum in these countries will show that the population will be against joining Russia. And even Russians in Kazakhstan will vote against joining! Who wants to live in an unpredictable country that surrounded itself with enemies on all sides?

[Dirty Harry]

Quote: kuz363

And even Russians in Kazakhstan will vote against joining!

Sure? After the Russian language Nurik squeezed out literally from everywhere?

[Lena363]

You are far from Kazakhstan, but I live here. I know the opinions of my friends and acquaintances. There is no extrusion of the Russian language, but the fact that knowledge of the Kazakh language by civil servants is required is absolutely correct. On television, the Russian language is on a par with the Kazakh language, at the household level - mostly Russian. Well, this is of course in cities, not remote villages. At enterprises, documentation is drawn up in two languages, for which there is a staff of translators. So what about extrusion - a very big exaggeration. It’s just that more efforts should be made by all who wish, and those who did not speak the usual Kazakh language will not learn Latin.

[Dirty Harry]

Quote: Lena363

You are far from Kazakhstan, but I live here. There is no extrusion of the Russian language

Another "officer's daughter"? I left from Kazakhstan, primarily so that my children can receive education in native language!

[Talgat 148]

Elena you are the best !!!!

[flint]

I don’t know how to squeeze out the Russian language, but if you look at the statistics, then the number of Russians is reduced simply with cosmic speed. Maybe your friends are not Russian, but Kazakhs, then everything is clear.

[Talgat 148]

My uncles Kolya and aunt Loley’s neighbors on the site are already old, one son and a German wife left for Germany and the second in Russia ... they don’t write, they don’t come ... they don’t bring grandchildren .. that’s how the Russian population is reduced in Kazakhstan. And what does genocide have to do with it ?!

[flint]

And where did I write about genocide? But why sons left their homeland is really a big question. Maybe because Russian is bad there? And why would it?

[Tank hard]

Quote: Talgat 148

My uncles Kolya and aunt Loley’s neighbors on the site are already old, one son and a German wife left for Germany and the second in Russia ... they don’t write, they don’t come ... they don’t bring grandchildren .. that’s how the Russian population is reduced in Kazakhstan. And what does genocide have to do with it ?!

And you ask what the term genocide means, and why they left, compare, and then learn history ...

[Arbagast]

Quote: Tank Hard

And you ask what the term genocide means, and why they left, compare, and then learn the story ..

This recipient, for example, Serebryakov left for Canada with his family, because you "genocidal" ?

[SOF]

Quote: Lena363

So what about extrusion - a very big exaggeration.

.... and I am semi-close to, still with a capital letter, Kazakhstan, but every year, more than once, I visit it and see that "squeezing out" is an exaggeration, but less and less every year ... ...

[Eula]

That's right, you can squeeze out a volume that resists, and when it merges itself alas ...

[Eula]

Lena, I also live here, I often go to schools, young people of Kazakh nationality do not know Russian at all, in principle they don’t need it- TV and radio are 75-80 percent in Kazakh and this is natural and natural no one will broadcast in a foreign language for the sake of 20 percent of the population. And the Russian language is the language of interethnic communication (well, a very beautiful definition). I wonder what Russia is doing in light of this? Not to that stepmother? And to what?

[Dirty Harry]

Quote: Govorun

, and brotherly the Soviet Union "threw" all its brothers and said, live as you want

only already after how they all declared their sovereignty!

[Talgat 148]

It's my pleasure! Allah is with us !!!

[aglet]

Quote: krot

Time will judge

just don’t forget later when the time comes

[Eula]

And time will not come already it has gone forever. Those who regret the collapse of the Union are sentimental people, and those who want to restore it are fools. (Putin: Whoever does not regret the collapse of the USSR does not have a heart
And those who want to restore it in its original form, that does not have a head)

[aglet]

Quote: Eula

And time will not come already gone forever

will come. not necessarily the Union, just again they will ask for money without return, or steam locomotives, or something else. here and do not forget

[Eula]

Halvahalvahalvahalva - is it sweet already?

[aglet]

Quote: Eula

Halvahalvahalvahalva - is it sweet already?

you can repeat this word a dozen times, but your leaders will still come to Russia again, to beg for money and other nishtyaki. including hapwa

[Machito]

И

Quote: For example

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Neither Kazakhs nor Kyrgyz will vote for the return of Russian lands to Russia.
Because they are afraid of losing what they now call their own.

Theirs is built up by our ancestors with our money. If not for Russia, the goats would still graze.

[Arthur 2700]

Well, not Russia would have rebuilt like that, China England Germany the United States, do you think there was no big empire?

[™ NECTH INTERHOLOctIC ™]

Good
They would dismember you and turn you into slaves, pumping your resources to yourself !!
It has been dozens of times in their practice!
No need to be so naive, no children already !!
The head must be turned on, at least sometimes!

[Arthur 2700]

Do not look jelly! Try to think with your head! There were times, everyone shared and shook, doesn’t Moscow shake Siberia ??? And the republic did not swing ??? All products were exported to Moscow, equipment and so on! My aunt Minsk Atlant in Moscow bought the most interesting thing that they didn’t even take him off the truck, they brought him back on this machine. .. Russians are no better and no worse than other empires. And Belarus suffered an ice resource like no other in all wars. Believe me, no one has died without Russia, no one will die without the United States!

[SOF]

Quote: Arthur 2700

Russians are no better and no worse than other empires

.... you ex-comrade who were so fucked up .... if we were an empire similar to the one you’re singing, you would have long forgotten that you, once, were called Kazakhs ....

[Beringovsky]

Well, not Russia would rebuild so, China

Yeah, here is China and will build a bright future for them, like the Uigurs in Xinjiang
The Muslim Muslims never stand on ceremony at all.
And the British, did they spend a lot in Afghanistan, Pakistan or India?

[Arthur 2700]

And what are the resources in Afghanistan except opium? I don’t know how India is, and Belarus, as it were, felt pretty good in Europe before Russia, it was not the last state! And rebuilt in 35g, requisitioned three horses of cows and so forth, taking the house in 7 windows (it's like three houses) to school, my great-grandfather was put in, thanks for not shooting. ... after 1.6 years released. Grandmother ran barefoot through the woods in the winter, and the sisters remained somewhere to live in Siberia. ... three times grandfather about the same. A bad story, but this is our story. The Russians got no less from the koba.
... so, we have what we have, don’t cost benefactors from ourselves!

[sogdy]

Quote: Arthur 2700

and Belarus, as it were, before Russia felt pretty good in Europe,

This is when she was Poland?

Quote: Arthur 2700

Grandmother ran barefoot through the woods in the winter, and the sisters remained somewhere to live in Siberia. .

How! And where is "Siberia"? from which they run barefoot in the winter ...
This is not the Tomsk region, where the line stands - tall, blond Belarusians? Cho run away from them?

[Arthur 2700]

Grandmother ran away from the NKVD at home, and her sisters were escorted to Siberia!

[sogdy]

Quote: Arthur 2700

Grandmother ran away from the NKVD at home

That is, to Poland. Type "no issue".

[aglet]

Quote: Arthur 2700

Belarus seemed to feel pretty good in Europe before Russia, it was not the last state!

Is this when Belarus was a state in Europe?

[flint]

I read your nonsense and now I see directly how you just crave to arrange the same mess in yourself as in dill. It’s good that the Old Man doesn’t give you a descent and will not let Belarus into the toilet.

[sogdy]

Quote: flint

It’s good that the Old Man doesn’t give you a descent and will not let Belarus into the toilet.

It seems that the client is not from Belarus. He's like over the hill.

[flint]

Maybe that's why to see such "smart and daring". Looks like he writes after cleaning another toilet bowl in Poland. I would sit in Belarus - I would be like a mouse behind a plinth.

[Dirty Harry]

Quote: Beringovsky

And the British, did they spend a lot in Afghanistan, Pakistan or India?

in Pakistan and India - a lot. Especially railway and highways - like the Romans at one time, megabables were invested in roads throughout the empire. The goal is clear - in the event of a rebellion, logistics rules!

[Talgat 148]

That's right, without Russia we ride jeeps!

[Beringovsky]

Talgat
That's right, without Russia we ride jeeps!

Sales of new cars for 10 people. 000 year
Russia 110 pcs
Kazastan 27pcs
The average Kazakh buys a new car 4 times less than in Russia.
Moreover, the cat just cried there, just cheap puzoterki.
And at the same time do you think that you live expensively-bohato ?!

[Talgat 148]

Nonsense! Better living without your Syria, writing to the West! May the Almighty give us peace and prosperity !!!

[Beringovsky]

Better ask the Almighty for high oil prices - nothing more is produced in Kazakhstan
And what about "nonsense" - this is the statistics of the Association of European Businesses in general, learn materiel

[Talgat 148]

Well, we also produce uranium first in the world! We also collect X-ray equipment, helicopters, automobiles, diesel locomotives, electric locomotives, supply steel, produce grain, and enter the top ten world producers; we include chrome, bauxite ores, lead, rice, sugar, NSV machine guns, armored vehicles, black caviar, and we build combat ships ourselves up to 500 tons we carry displacement, we grow cotton, we build railroads and rails, sleepers, batteries for Kamaz, rubber, molybdenum, gold, satellites we collect on Airbus equipment, we have 6 of them! What else?! Furniture, textiles, delicious chocolate, sausages, etc.

[flint]

At the enterprises that the Russians built during the Soviet Union.

[Talgat 148]

And Ukrainians, Tatars, Kazakhs, Germans, in short, Soviet people !!!! My uncle built the BAM, and another gas pipeline Urengoy - Pomary - Uzhgorod!

[flint]

Did you build a BAM and a gas pipeline? It is quite possible that you don’t need to wave a pickaxe and a shovel, but if, as an engineer, you graduated from an institute founded by Russians with Russian teachers in the vast majority. In Soviet times, there were almost 50 to 50 Russians and Kazakhs in the Kazakh SSR. The vast majority of engineers and engineers were Russians. This applies to almost all national republics. Without Russia, all of former Turkestan would be as wild as Afghanistan.

[Talgat 148]

This is natural, there were many Russians everywhere in the USSR, and colonial politics demanded again!

[Talgat 148]

Without Russia, we would live in either Sweden or Japan !!!! Cho immediately Afghanistan! ??? I do not mind!

[flint]

Why are you avoiding your fellows, you are not far away. As for the "colonial policy of the USSR," the name of dragging a wild nomadic crowd out of the feudal communal system into a civilized society is different.

[Talgat 148]

This is not the case, the wild drunken colonists brought grief and hunger, civilization did not smell, the Muslims of the quality taught the primal worshipers to wash and build baths!

[flint]

Muslims nomads who have not crawled out of the saddle for weeks, meeting their natural needs on the go, have learned to build a bathhouse ??? Eka poked you! Zabisty see nonsense! Keep raving on, have fun :))

[Talgat 148]

Foul nonsense ..... but how not to get off the saddle to go to the toilet ???

[flint]

Turn around a couple more rods and tell us that you have had a toilet bowl, a bidet and a jacuzzi in every yurt since the time of Genghis Khan :))

[Talgat 148]

You are mad, are not you?! They were not even in your huts! But we had street toilets (you just had to "go to the courtyard") and the door should look at Saint Medina, as is customary among Muslims, well, there is also obligatory ablution and a silver jug ​​with a long nose! ))))) even today you sometimes don’t wash your hands! )))))

[flint]

And were the toilets with a "door" collapsible, like yurts or one-piece? And what is the long nose of the jug for? Stick it right there? :))) And what ablutions in the desert without water, rubbed your ass with stones, civilized you are ours! :))

[Talgat 148]

You don’t know ordinary toilets, savages in one word! Bedouins live in deserts and we are in the Great Steppe! Where is full of rivers and lakes! You see with stones, there was no paper!

[aglet]

Quote: Talgat 148

You see with stones, there was no paper!

and you had, right from the 6th century BC

[flint]

I don’t know how it is in your steppe, but our countrymen are just like savages, dirty, not washed, wild, dumb and uneducated, they can certainly wash your ass (did not look), but that does not make them not savages.

[Talgat 148]

And your fellow countrymen here are just sick of dirty dirty whips. And you're lying! )))))))

[aglet]

Quote: Talgat 148

But we had street toilets (you just have to "go to the yard") and the door should look at St. Medina

what street toilet if there were no streets? the streets were already built by Russians, and toilets, by the way, were also

[Talgat 148]

poorly built toilets unbuilt shit anywhere! Still remodeling the city!

[aglet]

Quote: Talgat 148

but how not to get off the saddle to go to the toilet ???

well, you know better

[aglet]

Quote: Talgat 148

quality Muslims taught the simple people to wash and build baths!

where did they build baths? on the wagons? if they lived in cloth tents, the baths were also mobile

[de_monSher]

As for the "colonial policy of the USSR", then pulling by the ears from the feudal communal system

Here again, these tales began ... *))) If we talk about pre-revolutionary Russia, in general, it got rid of feudalism, God forbid memory - 1861, documented, and only at the end of the 19th century - really (and from parochialism and everyday nationalism - it still has not got rid of in fact) ... *))) So at the beginning of the 20th century, we all had, plus or minus, the same starting conditions, when another vestige of feudalism came to an end in Russia - an absolute monarchy ... *))) And the USSR - this is a completely different chapter of history. When you there "cry" about the RSFSR, about how "poor" she herself did not finish eating, she gave everything to everyone ... Remind you of the literal robbery of the outlying republics, about the distortions in the economy, the same Uzbekistan - when it was a very rich source of raw materials for the USSR and EVERYTHING (cotton, gold, uranium, polymetals, fluorite, etc.) ... other areas of the economy DIDN'T DEVELOP in fact ... *)) You are not crying, unlike you, all "offended Russians "(I'm not talking about all Russians, of course, but only about inveterate Natsiks, whiners and bores of the couch), just quietly and without noise, we live and blame no one for anything ... It's just you, even the local ones, some Natsik - on any occasion are ready to raise a howl - "Oh, Russians are offending us! Awuuuuuuu! Waaaaaa! Waaaaau!" Your right, damn it ... flag in your hands, forward and with a song ... *)))

[de_monSher]

That shapkozakidones, shoviks and natsiks have nothing to say - just sculpt the minuses silently? Okay, let's go over the facts. We, such "backward", "semi-feudal" SA of the Republic and Kazakhstan - did not even quarrel even once - although there were reasons (the same Kyrgyzstan, 2010). There was a reason for Uzbekistan to send troops to Kyrgyzstan in 2010 (as he did, by the way, in 97 and 99, and in Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan, silently - without showing off) ... was. Introduced? No, I didn't. Why? Yes, because, you need to respect your neighbors, understand what is happening to him, and not pour mud all the time and hiss like a snake under the ice. And you, advanced, smart almost Europeans (Russians) and already Europeans (Ukrainians), "non-brothers, almost one nation", what have you been doing for 4 years? That's right, you are pouring blood for each other, if not in rivers so in streams - for sure. Well done, there is nothing to say. Figs with him. Where is your national operating system for computers? WHERE??? Too lazy to blind, right? It is easier to take the left assembly "Linux" and proudly call the "National OS", having drunk money along the way. Yes? *)))) Yes, to hell with it with the OS - okay, even China is too lazy to dazzle its OS in the end (although - both Russia and China should have done it, yesterday). When I read the characteristics of "Glonass M" and "Glonass K", I got a little crazy. There microcontrollers are with PDP 11 architecture. The people, the architecture of the PDP 11, for a hundred years at lunchtime like ... the 70s, development, and happily died in the early 90s ... *))) I was still a student on the CM series computers, in the 90s , with PDP architecture, when it was completely boring ... *)))) You, boys and girls, are mired head over heels in "double standards" and outrageous chauvinism, it becomes already disgusting. Do you even feel it yourself? *))) Hear a "ringing" pleasant to your ears, so at once - "Great Russia ... hurray! Vivat! We have such politicians, politicians, scientists! Bravo!" ... you will hear the same "ringing" under another, not a very pleasant sauce, the song changes at once - "Fuuuu! Russia is backward! Everything around -! Politicians, scientists - everything is as if on selection, the Jews are corrupt! They sold everything they can! Aaaaaaaa! Uuuuuuuuuu!" ... And "you have this groan the song is called "... *))) Do you even try to UNDERSTAND what you are saying? What are you writing? Hmm ... Heh ... *)))

[aglet]

Quote: de_monSher

We, such "backward", "semi-feudal" SA of the Republic and Kazakhstan - did not even quarrel even once - although there were reasons (the same Kyrgyzstan, 2010).

They quarreled, and more than once. Did you hear about warriors and yurchiks? But you have nothing to seriously fight, your armies are purely nominal, for status. that’s why you are so good and peaceful. and about glonass. yes sucks, yes, not yet brought. Yes, the elemental base is ancient, but the question is, what do you have? what do you have at all?

[de_monSher]

quarreled, and more than once. heard about Vovchikov and yurchik?

Can you read? Together. "Vovchiks" and "Yurchiks", this is an internal affair of Tajikistan (and, by the way, I not only heard about them, but was also there at that time - Uzbekistan also intervened in these matters so that they would not spread to us) ... about us - You are again talking on the principle of "d-u-r-a-k himself", right? .. *))) We DO NOT APPLY for the status of a world power - but at the level of a regional state "without claims", quite a decent technological base, and ALREADY a multi-structured economy (overcame the bias in one direction) ... We will find our own, do not worry - because we do not quarrel with anyone, and we treat everyone with respect ...

[aglet]

Quote: de_monSher

"Vovchiki" and "Yurchik", this is an internal affair of Tajikistan (- Uzbekistan also intervened in these affairs,

is it an internal affair, or did other states intervene?

[de_monSher]

is it an internal affair, or did other states intervene?

So I HAD to intervene - alas, because the matter was going to the collapse of statehood, and all sorts of clerical sh-a-v-k-i raised their heads there. At their request, by the way, intervened. But, in fact, we did not fight with Tajikistan ... in any way.

[de_monSher]

but you have nothing to seriously fight, your armies are purely nominal

Was that a Freudian clause? That is, the army you need only for wars, and in the context of the conversation - predatory? *))) Nude, nude ... *))))) And you really want to claim the championship even in the CIS? *))) What the hell is attractiveness in modern Russia - an ordinary capitalist predator then? *))) Our task, the former Republics of the USSR (without the Russian Federation) is to keep ALL of you - the USA, the Russian Federation and China - at arm's length, so as not to meddle much in our affairs - that's all ... *)))

[aglet]

Quote: de_monSher

That is, the army you need only for wars, and in the context of the conversation - predatory?

we, like all other countries, need the army only for wars. that's just, unlike everyone else, Russia does not start wars, it ends them. and don’t have to invent anything out of contexts — we won’t capture you — buy cheaper. what is happening now

[de_monSher]

buy cheaper. what is happening now

We don’t need to buy us, don’t chew - we treat you well anyway, despite your constant shots and PMS. Just TURN OFF your capitalist thinking ... *))) Our good attitude towards you is not due to the fact that you have a lot of money in your pocket (which is not true at the root), but because you are neighbors, close people ... Therefore We criticize sometimes, because it's a shame for you too ...

[aglet]

Quote: de_monSher

Our task, the former Republics of the USSR (without the Russian Federation) is to keep ALL of you - the USA, the Russian Federation and China - at arm's length, so as not to meddle much in our affairs - that’s all ...

do not forget to get into our wallet with this outstretched hand

[de_monSher]

do not forget to get into our wallet with this outstretched hand

Fuck it, in someone else's pockets rummage then? Buddy, are you okay with brains? What kind of thieves have you got ... really ...

[flint]

Whom do you keep at arm's length there ??? Oh, he killed him, and he also takes offense at the "bleating" !!! Yes, you just shine like a dumb sheep specific nonsense. Nobody fucking needs you, Russia needs only to drive out the wild shobls of your gaster from itself, close the border and after a year you crawl on your knees to lick everything that you usually don’t lick, as you will swell from hunger.

[de_monSher]

Russia only needs to drive out the wild shobbles of your gaster

So DO it, man ... what are you chewing on snot? *)))) Is your gut thin? You can only bark here, hit "horseradish on the table" ... but how does it come to this - immediately xr-e-n starts to show at 6.30, right? *)))) Woodpecker unfinished ... *)))

[flint]

Those. do you propose that Russia kicks out all the Gaster of the blockheads? Another indicator of what you chocks are stupid and narrow-minded. It’s a pity that they don’t hear you, and most importantly they don’t know who you are, all your lands, they would have eaten you alive, even there wouldn’t be any shit, even though there’s a lot of it, for dooming tens of millions of people to hunger and complete poverty. Your Churkistan is not dill, they can even go to Europe if something happens, at least for now. You have no alternative, either to Russia or to starve to swell.

[de_monSher]

It’s a pity that they don’t hear you, and most importantly they don’t know who you are, all your lands,

That's for sure a song about you - "Oh, ate, ah, ate, ah, evil wolves" ... you really don't pull a wolf, but the watchdog is nothing like that ... *))) You see, in contrast from you, balabol, I have information on hand. For Uzbekistan, Russia has been an unpromising direction for 5-6 years already. Absolutely "impenetrable" hard workers are coming to you. I'm not talking about business immigration - for those who have money from the connection, neither YOU nor the Nazis like you will approach a kilometer, but will resort to half-bent ones and intensively lick their shoes and their butts (if such a hygienic to do the procedure, you watchdogs are always happy to do this, not for nothing that they are tongue-tied). So for people with money, you can absolutely not be afraid, but simple hard workers who are impatient to go to Russia - you push, push, "do not go to Russia. Capitalism is not anointed with honey. Throw it at best, otherwise they will kill" ... He will look, smile and do it his own way. Uzbekistani Uzbeks, SIMPLE hard workers, you have only 150.000-200.000 thousand left. The rest are business immigrants who immigrated with the prospect of obtaining high-income jobs, for study and for personal preferences (that is, those who chose Russia as their new homeland), etc. The rest of the Uzbeks are those who have never seen Uzbekistan in their lives - Tajik Uzbeks, Kyrgyz ... We feel sorry for them, of course, but unfortunately, even legally, we cannot help them ... and in Uzbekistan, promising directions for ordinary hard workers are South Korea, Japan, Europe, etc. ...

[flint]

And I don’t need to approach either your immigration business, they haven’t resisted me for a hundred years, but I think our businessmen officials will have them in full, not to Gaster, they themselves revolve around me and pester me with offers to work at least somewhere. I was tormented by kicks to disperse a stupid, illiterate and unqualified shoblu. And at the expense of Korea, Japan and Europe - maybe a promising direction, but there, in line for washing toilets and similar unskilled robots, they first need to fight their way through the same crowd of promising from Arabia and Eastern Europe. So you can’t bleat here even to the point of fainting, advertising your fellow countrymen and the "successes" of the economies of your "national republics", but while millions of Gaster will walk around our enterprises and fences of private estates begging for at least some kind of work, all your efforts are in vain and suitable only for the same inflated fools like you.

[de_monSher]

Gaster, they themselves revolve around me and pester with offers at least somewhere to work

Yes, I have to put a bolt who is "spinning" around you and who is there who "believes" on the "bolt" - please dismiss me from your p-e-d-a-r-a-s-t-i-h-e fantasies and details, okay? I can't understand your unconventional inclinations, definitely ... *))) on other issues - not yours, a woodpecker, it's a matter of understanding ... *)) You only have to expire poison, and the priests who are substituted to lick on command, "lick!" and show off, talk with your tongue when there is no command ... *))) You yourself are a hell of a hillock, you know nothing and don't know ... *)))

[flint]

That's just a dumb and very worried f-and-d-er could find in my words some kind of concern in this direction. Why have you been recently pulled a little in the anus, what did you bleat on this subject? Well, chew from Sedov’s blue block of wood, people here are mostly of a normal orientation, with the exception of p-d-d-e-r-i-like you who came to hysteria when your fellow tribesmen were justly considered and are considered parasites during the USSR and now . Go suck somebody, maybe it’s better for you and at the same time wipe the monitor from your evil snot and drool, otherwise you won’t even see what is written there

[de_monSher]

Go already through the forest, Samuelevich ... you won’t find the forest - walk along the steppe, straight into the mountains ... *))) you haven’t had a command yet, lick your ass - so go and clean your tongue there, and other cleaning tricks ... your fingers are fan and snot by the rivers, only they raise self-esteem, the rest are no more than annoying, d-o-l-b-o-d-i-t-e-l homegrown ... *)))

[flint]

Well, what took my advice? It helped to see, it seems to have calmed down? Now be sure to wipe your mouth and go to sleep, maybe you will dream of Uzbekiston in the form of the most powerful world empire, even if you feel like a person in a dream, and not a miserable, stupid chock!

[de_monSher]

Forest, Michel Zadolizovich ... forest ... *))) I do not need your services ... *)))

[ASX]

He gathered everything together. He started about the neighbors - and then Ostap suffered. Clown.

[de_monSher]

*))) Better to be a clown than a chauvinist Nazi ... but in essence, there is something to say, except to say "about nothing"? *))

[ASX]

And what facts did you figure out? How long did srach last because of water - gas with Uzbekistan? By electricity with Kazakhstan? Yeah, and last year on the border with Kazakhstan, everything was neighborly?

[de_monSher]

Yeah, and last year on the border with Kazakhstan, everything was neighborly?

Yes, there was a long dispute with Tajikistan over the hydroelectric power station (not without the participation of Russia, by the way) ... was it allowed without a fight? Allowed, everything is neatly laid out on the shelves ... Have you gotten everything neighborly with the Kazakhs? We gave them a piece of land, they gave us. And all the cases. But naturally, in your imagination it is we and Kazakhs who "cut" each other, as much as the dust has been piling up for many years ... of course, of course ... *))) And about minor problems at the border, this always happens - criminal elements of the state are not ordered ...

[ASX]

How do you know what I have in my imagination. Last year I was there at that moment. He himself saw the line of 8 km from the trucks at the transition to Karasu. It is in your imagination - these are minor problems. Of course - the capital, someone there. Steelworkers or something ...

[de_monSher]

I saw a queue of 8 km from trucks at the transition to Karasu

Which line of trucks are you talking about? These are queues, every season they line up, in one direction or another - then the Kazakh customs will kick up, then ours. But we don’t gnaw at each other's throats ... or will you argue otherwise? Economics, this is that religious institution (modern), from which I personally stay away and try not to meddle with it ... *)) Do you, in general, read what they write to you? And then you are talking about the steppe, you are talking about purple swamps ... *))) Really, guys ... Have you forgotten how to talk? One does not follow the bazaar, and if you give him an answer (PERSONALLY to do with it), there will be a second one, similar to him, who will immediately stand in a pose, "schoolgirls at the cadet school during a booze", and tries to add nationalism to MY words ... *))) I'm crap without a button accordion, dudes ... *)))

[ASX]

No need to drive the blizzard. Every year I visit Kyrgyzstan and I have seen such lines only once. It’s just that Nazarbayev didn’t like the fact that he firmly told Atambaev not to meddle in the affairs of Kyrgyzstan and he closed the border in a neighborly way, inventing all sorts of excuses that had not even been noticed before. So learn the materiel, clown. And unlike you, I read what they write. And I know how to reason - such a job. So cook what you cook there in your capital - and don’t go where you don’t have to, clown.

[de_monSher]

So cook what you cook there in your capital - and don’t go where you don’t have to, clown.

Ummm ... I have not quarreled with you yet, so for now I can do without any special insults. Have you read CAREFULLY what I was typing? But at the same time, several times they managed to confuse me with a Kyrgyz. I write about UZBEKISTAN, and I live in Uzbekistan, human. If your vision completely fails, put on more powerful glasses or something. Too damn it to me ... I haven't really learned to read and understand, but already in the same place - to be clever ... Do not drive a blizzard, "reader" is eyeless ...

[ASX]

So you are a writer - a clown expresses his thoughts in such a way that a normal person cannot understand you. And I didn’t confuse you with anyone. You are the one who, by virtue of your meager mind and no education, is trying to be clever and teach others. And cram your insults yourself you know where, friend.

[flint]

What kind of robbery of the outlying republics are you bleating about? All of the former Turkestan during the Soviet era was tightly subsidized and consumed much more than it did, and even now if it weren’t for hordes of migrant workers Tajiks, Uzbeks, Kyrgyz, etc. in Russia, who earn at least some money and send them to their homeland, you would already be from hunger is bent. I know by hearsay how you live there from friends for 7 years already
Tajiks who come to work every spring. And although they constantly whine that it has become more difficult to earn, but at home there is no work at all and a complete ass in everything. They literally pray that the USSR will return. We just don’t need this, otherwise we’ll have to feed the hordes of poor parasites again, we are enough to feed our oligarchs.

[aglet]

Quote: de_monSher

Have you read what this "man" wrote to me?

wrote normally, maybe a little emotionally, but he did not insult you

[de_monSher]

What kind of robbery of the outlying republics are you bleating about?

and that garbage that left something, Anastasia = showed a finger up =? *))) It’s from this rotten bazaar, this dude, it all started ... *)) If this cedar has only bleating in its tongue, and it’s all vomit in my head, am I guilty of anything with this condom? used, you can only talk obscenities? Or all the same, double standards - they rule?

[Tank hard]

Quote: Talgat 148

Without Russia, we would live in either Sweden or Japan !!!

This statement characterizes you and your intellect very well. There is nothing to add!

[Talgat 148]

Yes, why, I'm smart! Why should I stoop to Afghanistan! And if there is nothing to add, so go do more useful things!)))

[Consultant]

Quote: Talgat 148

Without Russia, we would live in either Sweden or Japan !!!!

I just want to remind you that Ukraine began precisely with this promise. Almost thirty years ago.

How Ukraine lives now, and how she lived all these nearly thirty years, you obviously don’t know

[Tank hard]

Quote: Consultant

you obviously don't know

Welcome back.
He is apparently from the "after Pepsi" generation. They have a different story, a new ...

[aglet]

Quote: Talgat 148

Without Russia, we would live in either Sweden or Japan !!!!

Well, don’t you live? nobody seems to bother

[Eula]

Listen, Flint, I don’t know what your ultimate goal is. It looks like you are the enemy of Russia and stupidly provoke the people of possible allies to statements that are unpleasant for the Russians and Talgat is being led to that. What you state and state is simply GREAT CHOW CHINA.

[Beringovsky]

Well, we also produce uranium first in the world! More X-ray equipment, helicopters, cars

1) Australia is the first in uranium.
2) Already 28 light helicopters in 5 years. Coarse assembly of sets Eurocopter EC145. In short, under the supervision of the French, fasten the wheels and doors to them. But you can always punt - We make helicopters!
3) The same story with cars. Production from car kits, i.e. assembly assembly. Screwed headlights, wheels and steering wheel - and again, Made in Kazakhstan.
4) Satellites - no comment, really Hochma, Kazakh satellite.
And so - the raw materials, yes, you are mining, or rather TNK, and the Kazakhs are there as "wedding generals", they are sitting there for show-off. Well, nothing else ...
And yes, still agricultural. products. I have nothing against it, as well as against black caviar. It is what it is.

[Talgat 148]

Informative and style of presentation as we have Kazakhstanis! Are you our comrade go, hiding under someone else's flag !? )))))

[Talgat 148]

Australia is the first in terms of uranium reserves, and Kazakhstan is second! And the first Kazakhstan to produce!

[Fan-fan]

This is PONTS, so PONTS.

[Talgat 148]

A Cossack without show-offs - a Capeless Cossack !!!

[ruigat]

May the Almighty give us peace and prosperity !!!

Only Great Russia (not the Russian Federation) of which you are a part will give peace and prosperity. In all other cases, you will find the role of the floor mat. At least under the masters of the Fed, at least under the CCP.

[Talgat 148]

Once upon a time! ))) But at least feed yourself!

[ruigat]

Once upon a time! )))

No, you are. And when the power of the oligarchy of the Russian Federation falls, we (the Soviet people) will remind you of this and if you do not want to become part of the Empire and remain an aul Natsik, then work in uranium mines to strengthen the military, industrial and scientific power of the Eurasian Soviet Empire will become your epilogue of life.

[Talgat 148]

I grieve Great Russia once was!

[Beringovsky]

Talgat
That's right, without Russia we ride jeeps!

Sales of new cars for 10 people. 000 year
Russia 110 pcs
Kazastan 27pcs
The average Kazakh buys a new car 4 times less than in Russia.
Moreover, the cat just cried there, just cheap puzoterki.
And at the same time do you think that you live expensively-bohato ?!

[Lena363]

These statistics indicate that in Kazakhstan, everyone had already bought cars even earlier, when the dollar was cheap.

[Beringovsky]

Well, yes, 66th place in the world in the number of cars per capita, in 2015. Somewhere near Ukraine and Suriname.
And it is very honorable to be next to such an automobile mega-power as Ukraine

[Eula]

This suggests that in Kazakhstan the population is 5 times less and that’s all

[Warrior Hamilton]

We would be proud that branded jeeps are produced - this is understandable, but they will teach you how to ride in any circus, for this Russia certainly does not need ....

[Dirty Harry]

Quote: Talgat 148

we ride jeeps!

if only not to build normal roads ... I remember that I drove 160 hours from Kokchetav to Shantobe for 4 hours - in a jeep! And this - metropolitan region!

[flint]

If you called your donkey a jeep, he did not become a car from this

[ASX]

And with Russia, they would fly on rockets !!!

[Talgat 148]

We are citizens of the USSR built all together! It was not Russia that built, but the USSR built both the Dneproges and BAM and Baikonur. And with what intent you say, then this is the answer you built it not for us but for yourself! If you think like a colonist about lost lands! )))

[flint]

The lands are lost, but not colonies, but your blood and don’t rejoice SOON, how many things will happen in the future ....

[Eula]

Well, then what? Who first got up and slippers, whose quote?

[SOF]

Quote: For example

Because they are afraid of losing what they now call their own

.... one can only hope that the ex-brothers, in the era of the construction of socialism, at the time of a large shecher, even if they would not deliver shells to the enemy ......

[aglet]

Quote: SOF

one can only hope that the former brothers, in the era of the construction of socialism, at the time of a large sheer, at least they would not deliver shells to the enemy ......

look at Ukraine and don’t hope in vain

[Serg koma]

Quote: For example

Neither Kazakhs nor Kyrgyz will vote for the return of Russian lands to Russia.
Because they are afraid of losing what they now call their own.

Kazakhstan is leading, overtaking Usraina, in terms of renaming - they are destroying the "accursed heritage of the empire", renaming streets, villages, cities with Russian names.
("Renamed settlements and regions of Kazakhstan
If you cannot find the locality in the search form, please check - maybe this locality has been renamed "- google help).

Vice Minister of Culture of the Republic of Kazakhstan Zhanay Omarov said: "The return of the previous historical names to our settlements, geographical objects is a very important issue. There is a lot of work. There are no proportions, and no one will establish them. But it is important that all Kazakh names have historical and spiritual significance, must be returned to the country and people "...

The rejection of the Cyrillic alphabet is just what it costs .... If Nazarbayev leaves, we will get such a "brotherly" people at our side, that Usraina will seem childish, border with Russia - 7548,1 km

[Sofia]

Historically, the land passed from one to the other. It is impossible not to reckon with this. Take, for example, Crimea, the day before yesterday Turkish, yesterday Russian, etc. Dig deeper, you will find Italians, Greeks. Also other lands not only in Russia, but also in other countries. Do you assume that the Kazakhs and Kyrgyz are afraid that Russia will take their land?

[Serg koma]

Quote: Sofia

Do you assume that the Kazakhs and Kyrgyz are afraid that Russia will take their land?

Until 1936, not only the state "Kazakhstan" did not exist in the world, but there were no Kazakhs as a nation at all. There was a general concept - the Kyrgyz. The "Kirghiz" people are inherently nomadic, if there was a sedentary way of life - only in the southern regions.
The Dzungur tribes did not leave behind settlements in the northern part of Kazakhstan, all settlements were founded by Russian settlers and "virgin lands" - but now ALL this is not taken into account, the history of the state is being written from scratch ... THERE WAS NO state on the territory of present-day Kazakhstan in the sense to which we are accustomed, there was (roughly speaking) a different rabble running from time to time across the steppe and declaring themselves masters ... Therefore, like a young state, a "ancient" history is needed. Ambition knows no bounds ...

all Kazakh names with historical and spiritual significance should be returned to the country and people

Drawing parallels with another young state - "Kuban is Ukraine"

View 30 quarters of 3 grass of 1917 each year at Katerynodar’s vidbulisi zbori kozatstva, on which the Cossack detachment - Kubanska Vіyskova Rada — has assimilated.
16 fierce 1918 fate of the Legislative Council I will vouch for the Kuban People’s Republic, and through December, according to the end of the session, for the sake of praise, the resolution “On the Enlightenment of the Kuban on the Federal minds to Ukraine”

(from KhokhloViki)

Kuban is a historical region of Ukraine. Historically, Kuban belonged to Ukraine. The largest component of the Zaporizhzhya Army was precisely the Kalmya Palanca. The Ukrainians in the Kuban, up to the Holodomor, made up the vast majority

Let's go back to Kazakhstan -

As you can see Omsk and Orenburg are "Kazakh", the map was placed after the introduction of the Latin alphabet on the state website news agency "Kazinform", after the scandal (they probably regretted) removed.
So answering your question "Do you assume that the Kazakhs and Kyrgyz are afraid that Russia will take their land?" - I suppose that soon the Kazakhs will need an "enemy at the borders", "the hand of the Kremlin", "Holodomor", etc. etc. to raze the country with a handful of (possibly international) oligarchy following the example of the Usraina ... We are currently observing the initial phase of operation "TN, COVERING" (in this direction).

[ast165373]

Wow Wow. hold gentlemen horses. firstly, this map concerned news about the language - this map indicated the geographical population where the Kazakh language is used and which will be affected by the introduction of the Latin alphabet in the Republic of Kazakhstan. Yes, it is used among the Karakalpaks (AO in Uzbekistan), among the Kazakhs Orenbugra, Omsk and XUAR. The Kazakhs do not (majority) have no desire to collect Kazakh lands, to keep their own. and for their lands it’s really scary after every such news when some of the Russians reveal their true face. But in essence the news I will say this: as far as ordinary Russians have the right to vote at the UN, so the Kazakhs vote in this. those. NO. we are really brothers in terms of the law and opinion of the people - neither our radiant nor yours ever take it into account.

[Sofia]

It would be interesting to draw such a map of the population with Russian or another language. How would the Kazakhs react to this? Speak wisely and cunningly about "keeping your lands", and it sounds even wiser to collect Kazakh lands. You might think that they were state lands. If the statehood was defined for the first time, so where should it be. There were lands on which an ethnic group wandered, divided by descent. In order to develop, it is not at all necessary to come up with a former supposedly history of greatness. There are no names left of many great nations, Only experts know. If you believe the current Kazakh "academicians" Genghis Khan was a Kazakh and so on. From such scribbling, the Kazakh youth's roof goes, their own skin is tight. This will result in something not very normal for the Kazakhs, and the neighbors will get it.

[Serg koma]

Quote: ast165373

this map indicated the geographical population where the Kazakh language is used and which will be affected by the introduction of the Latin alphabet in the Republic of Kazakhstan

Looks like .... So I have to use (I live in Omsk) the Kozakh language - thank you enlightened.

Quote: ast165373

some Russians reveal their true face.

I do not know which Kazakhstan you live in, but the Russian population is being squeezed out of Northern Kazakhstan - there are enough examples among my friends (of different ages) who have moved to Russia ... The true face of the "brotherly Kazakh people" is revealed when they become the majority in any settlement. starting from a small village to a city.
Petropalovsk was not given to rename because -
National composition (as of January 1, 2018)
Russians - 132 (353%)
Kazakhs - 62 470 people. (28,65%)
Tatars - 6 699 people. (3,07%)
Ukrainians - 4 556 people. (2,09%)
Germans - 4 101 people. (1,88%)
Belarusians - 982 people (0,45%)
Poles - 984 people (0,45%)
Armenians - 888 people (0,41%)
Tajiks - 791 people (0,36%)
Azerbaijanis - 862 people (0,40%)
Uzbeks - 267 people (0,12%)
and others - 3078 people. (1,41%)
Total - 218 inhabitants

Kazakhstan lost during the census period (from 1989 to 1999) more than 1,5 million of its inhabitants, which amounted to 10% of the population. The population has declined from 16,4 to 14,9 million. Kazakhstan has become a major exporter of Russians. Their number over the past ten years decreased from 6 to 4,5 million people, and the proportion in the population decreased from 40 to 30%

[Serg koma]

The share of the Kazakh population in Petropalovsk.
2009 year - 23.7%
2016 year - 27.6%
2018 year - 28,6%
Absolutely not against the Kazakh population of KAZAKH cities, but you yourself, dear ast165373 look in open sources due to which the share of the Kazakh population in the northern (and not only) regions is increasing .... If it’s really lazy - Wiki to help https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazakhstan#Demography_and_national_composition
So "brotherly country" - "exporter of Russians"

[Dirty Harry]

Does Kazakhstan have territorial claims against Russia and China? To go nuts ... But from the realistic, especially on this map, Karakalpakstan is interesting. What is characteristic is that Karakalpaks in Kazakhstan are given citizenship by simplification - like oralmans (i.e. Kazakhsrepatriates). Hint: Karakalpakstan is a frankly impoverished region, but uranium in the bowels is trifigishchevo!

[Tank hard]

Quote: Dirty Harry

Does Kazakhstan have territorial claims against Russia and China? To go nuts ..

There is a region on the map of Central Asia called "Central Tien Shan", so it will belong to them when Russia leaves Central Asia completely. What claims are there and to whom, and who will make it, can be clearly seen from the Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region of China ... IMHO, of course, but we'll see.

[aglet]

Quote: Sofia

Historically, the land passed from one to the other. Do you assume that the Kazakhs and Kyrgyz are afraid that Russia will take their land?

and they had their own land in such quantities? land on which there were cities, factories, power plants, schools, hospitals, libraries? or just a dry desert through which they drove their skinny cattle?

[Talgat 148]

There was nothing and we were gone. The Russians came and built everything and pulled us out of the test tube and called them the Kazakhs and supposedly you live here for free, here you have the libraries, here you have the power stations, hospitals and schools, and we’ll go home! So chtoli was ???????? Or even a little bit of history to read ?! On the couch?!

[aglet]

Quote: Talgat 148

There was nothing and we were gone. The Russians came and built everything and pulled us out of the test tube and called them the Kazakhs and supposedly you live here for free, here you have the libraries, here you have the power stations, hospitals and schools, and we’ll go home! So chtoli was ???????? Or even a little bit of history to read ?! On the couch?!

that's exactly what it was! because you know everything, why make up all sorts of stories about great Kazakhstan

[aglet]

Quote: Talgat 148

WITH WHOM THE TRUTH IS TOT AND STRONG !!!!

well so is it true with anyone

[Talgat 148]

With us! We are a peaceful international republic, and you are acupuncturers!

[aglet]

Quote: Talgat 148

With us! We are a peaceful international republic, and you are acupuncturers!

well, that’s all clarified. nationalism is rushing out of you, respectable babai. I’ll answer you with someone’s words, the invaders burst into camps and villages, leaving cities, hospitals, libraries, schools and factories behind. holey yurts, cow shit bonfires and trachoma? nobody holds you back, and you have already taken the first steps

[Talgat 148]

You yourself live in shit and stay on your stinky collective farm, you’ll drink the last pants soon! Nazi Accupant @

[Eula]

Only now, on the contrary, WHO IS STRONG WITH THEM AND THE TRUTH.

[Talgat 148]

Nicho, there is Israel 8.5 million people and how strong !!!!!! So 140 million do not matter! We saw so strong in one place! Take it easy already! )))))

[shark]

The most accurate comment. I don't want to share my flawed sovereignty. I do not want to be the backyards of the Empire, but I want to be a capital city. So they fall under all those who promise to "protect, strengthen, support." Do not expect your position from these countries, do not expect these countries to stand under "a hail of bullets" to spite everyone. They need to preserve what they call their statehood. But in fact it is a flawed provincial, local mentality of nations that have never matured.

[Speak out]

I don’t know how the Kirghiz have, the ANA for the secret (money) Americans pinched. That’s me!
And he only made himself worse.
Those who did not love him continue to dislike him, and those who supported him were disappointed.
But Semipalatinsk amer neotdam. Here Yermak died, and his parents are buried!

[Oden280]

The 1984 socialist and developing countries did not go to the 14 Olympics in Los Angeles. By urgent request (in other words, by order) from Moscow. Ignored: China, Romania, Yugoslavia, Albania.

[Astronaut]

and now the closest allies are paraffinizing us.

Turn on the mind, Russia gives the "allies" much less money than the USSR, hence all the "allies"!

[NG inform]

Because the weak and stupid have become.

[kapitan92]

Quote: Bearded

Russia’s allies are simply nowhere to go.

So, Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan decided to "wash their hands" and prudently (as if nothing had happened) to abstain. This is brotherly ...

Whether it will still be when the elbasy fins stick together! Looks like his mattress was firmly taken for one place, due to corruption of his family.
He is 78 years old, he seems to have grown to the "throne". This "buy," all his "Central Committee members" have already sat out.

[Jerk]

But Russia has two allies - the army and navy, who said? You yourself are not ashamed to write so frankly stupid ?!

[Andrey Chistyakov]

Quote: Jerk

But Russia has two allies - the army and navy, who said? You yourself are not ashamed to write so frankly stupid ?!

Tsar Alexander the third.

[adma]

Quote: Bearded

Even under the tsars and communists, Russia has never been as politically isolated as it is now.

"In the whole world we have only 2 loyal allies, our army and navy. All the rest, at the first opportunity, will take up arms against us."
Alexander III

[Dirty Harry]

Quote: adma

All the rest, at the first opportunity, themselves will turn against us. "

Subsequently, at some international meeting, Alexander III drank to the health of "our the only ally - the king of Montenegro. "Result: during WWI, Montenegro concluded separate world with the Triple Alliance.

[Tusv]

Quote: Bearded

Even under the tsars and communists, Russia has never been as politically isolated as it is now.

What do you mean by political isolation?
There is. Enemy, Friend and Drum
The fact that at every vote the states are holding a conversation will not be "For" Imposing Penance "does not mean political isolation.
Our main ally, you know. Army and Navy ,. Further, the Union State of Belarus, then the CSTO. The main enemies of the United States and NATO in terms of the Anglo-Saxons and limintrophs
But the number of neutral countries is growing steadily.

[Halado Romane]

But Russia never has allies at all! Do not need! May the USA have such allies as Kazakhs and Kyrgyz! And the Turks when we were allies? Partnership, if mutually beneficial, yes, NATO can be preserved there, Americans and their friends in Syria have a little fun ... What kind of isolation are you talking about, Borodach ?! Jews around Moscow rushing out of breath do not know how to get to the Kremlin all the time they are sent to the other side, and instead of tricky negotiations, all the time an erotic foot trip is obtained ... But Belarusians were pleased! And even Pashinyan, as he matured right away! And we don’t need allies for nothing. We are not used to ... Relaxing.

[Tusv]

Quote: Halado romance

And the Turks when we were allies?

When Ushak Pasha, aka Fyodor Fedorovich Ushakov drowned the Napoleonic fleet in the wagon train, stood when Hitler was bent and now, bite off a piece of Syrian pie

[Halado Romane]

Well, then you don’t forget Lenin and Ataturk ... And yet they are not our allies.

[Machito]

Quote: Halado romance

Well, then you don’t forget Lenin and Ataturk ... And yet they are not our allies.

The Turks always have stupid rulers: maybe they eat something wrong or smoke. Ataturk exception. Turkey always expands when it allies with Russia. And it always decreases in size when it allies with the West. This is even slowed down Estonians understand, but not the Turks.

[Halado Romane]

Fate is so ...

[Tusv]

Quote: Bearded

The Turks always have stupid rulers: maybe they eat something wrong or smoke.

Russian folklore called it. Just come to the shootout with knives.

[Antares]

Quote: Bearded

Turkey always expands when it allies with Russia. And it always decreases in size when it allies with the West

The maximum size of the Olympic Games will be implemented without the support of the Russian kingdom. And the blogger of passion for the Ottoman Turks, good artillery and discord in Europe and Asia. Nobody almost defended Byzantium, and when the latter collapsed, nothing could restrain the Ottomans on the way.
The RC did not affect the Ottomans in that period.
And vice versa, in the heyday of Russia, Turkey decreased its territory ...
Now both de facto have increased. De jure is no one.

[Arthur 2700]

So Russia has not grown nirazu with Turkey! What are you hinting at? )

[Dirty Harry]

Quote: Bearded

The Turks always have stupid rulers: maybe they eat something wrong or smoke. Ataturk exception.

Yeah, especially Suleiman the Magnificent. Exclusively due to the alliance with Russia. I wonder how the "dumb" Turkish rulers conquered territory from Morocco to Iraq and from Hungary to Ethiopia? And about the stupidity of the Russian tsars here the communists on the forum write the same thing.

[Tusv]

Quote: Halado romance

Nevertheless, these are not our allies.

Why? Ally and Friend are different concepts. The Allies are bound by agreement and acting in the framework of an agreement in one direction: the Entente, Stalin - Roosevelt - Churchill. A Friend is in life. No contract needed

[Halado Romane]

Allies are situational.

[Tusv]

Quote: Halado romance

Allies are situational.

The union is a priori situational. As in the lower grades - to "be friends" against someone.

[Halado Romane]

Why simplify? There are "schoolchildren" who are traditionally friends against a certain side!

[den3080]

So Putin is right. Nazarbayev with the Kyrgyz (I don’t remember my last name) - not allies, but friends?

[vadimtt]

Do not forget the saying - "Keep your friends close, and your enemies even closer"

[Tusv]

Quote: Halado romance

But Russia never has allies at all! Do not need! May the USA have such allies as Kazakhs and Kyrgyz!

I gave an example and will give you only once. We tell Mexico that we are attacking nuclear weapons or deploying our missiles. How the president of Mexico will react when there are no options. How fashionable now. This is a rhetorical question.

[aglet]

Quote: Tusv

We tell Mexico that we attack nuclear weapons or deploy our missiles

and where does Mexico, explain, did we attack our "allies" of nuclear weapons?

[ruigat]

The presence of allies (vassals) shows the level of influence of the state in the world. Your owners from the oligarchy of the Russian Federation lowered this level below the level of sewage.

[Стена]

and Putin is a strategist

[Bull Terrier]

that's what you fool then include? forgot sharply what happened in '14 and what is it all happening for?) Lavrov fights back and does it well. people’s memory is short. remember 30 years ahead, it will not be better from the word at all. the choice is made. our own west and the countries of the former USSR.

[Tusv]

Quote: Bull Terrier

the choice is made. our own west and the countries of the former USSR.

Yeah. Summer ski training in the gym. On harnesses try to tear yourself away from the wall as far as possible

[aglet]

Quote: Bull Terrier

the choice is made. us our west and the countries of the former USSR

absolutely right, everyone has the right to choose. but let's not consider allies, or even partners, those whose choice harms us

[Greenwood]

Quote: Bull Terrier

remember 30 years ahead, it will not be better from the word at all

Eka you pleased. The population is already declining in the country, and you know how to cheer up.

[Tersky]

Quote: Bearded

Even under tsars and communists, Russia has never been so politically isolated.

Well, yes, especially before World War I, when the only route between Russia and the West passed through Norway and Sweden - with the intersection of the Gulf of Bothnia - to Finland. You must have been banned in Google, write to the administrator to unban.

[Machito]

Quote: Tersky

Quote: Bearded

Even under tsars and communists, Russia has never been so politically isolated.

Well, yes, especially before World War I, when the only route between Russia and the West passed through Norway and Sweden - with the intersection of the Gulf of Bothnia - to Finland. You must have been banned in Google, write to the administrator to unban.

Before WWI, our allies were Poland, Finland, the Baltic states, Serbia, etc. In Tehran, a Russian regiment was stationed. Northern China was in our sphere of influence. So, this is with you on Google - problems, it is switching to Yandex: support Russian software manufacturers.

[Tersky]

Quote: Bearded

Before WWI, our allies were Poland, Finland, the Baltic States, Serbia

Finland and Poland, the Baltic provinces were part of the Republic of Ingushetia, and you forgot about the German naval blockade.

Quote: Bearded

In Tehran, a Russian regiment was stationed. Northern China was in our sphere of influence.

We still have no problems with them.

[tolancop]

"... Before WWI, our allies were Poland, Finland, the Baltic states, ....".
Surprised utterly !!! Look through the history textbook for the affiliation of these entities before the WWII. If there is a desire to neigh, write that now our allies are Pskov, Tverskaya (I write the first ones that came to mind, I ask Pskov and Tver citizens not to be offended) and other provinces, as well as other subjects of the Russian Federation.

[Dirty Harry]

Quote: Bearded

Before WWI, our allies were Poland, Finland, the Baltic states,

Yeah, but before WWII, our allies were Ukraine, Belarus, Moldova, Georgia, etc. Have you ever looked at the map of RI before WWI?

[EnGenius]

Just a resolution of the UN General Assembly - to wipe it and throw it away, especially for Russia. And the United States will have to make excuses)

[greenegro]

This is not political isolation, this is the licking by the political authorities of these countries of the American it’s clear why ... sorry Lord ...

[asv96]

It's just that these countries also have a claim on the territory that they consider to be theirs.

[Leeds]

But Burundi (Duchy of Burundi) with us !!! Burundi is this, if anyone has forgotten, the state is in the center of Western Europe !!! From ancient times they crap France. How are you? !!! Ha!!!

[aglet]

Quote: Leeds

Burundi is this, if anyone has forgotten, the state is in the center of Western Europe !!!

a bit wrong. Africa is

[lelik613]

But he writes poetry. Apparently a lot of free time.

[smart ass]

How are there no allies? Mmmmmm? And laos ???

[the most important]

Quote: Theodore

And nefig it was for the Kyrgyz to forgive their debts!

As you listen to Lavrov, there are only "partners" around. And as you look, what is really so simple some kind of horror that is happening around Russia. Even a blind man sees a failure in economics, and the blind will soon begin to see failures in external affairs. But how much pathos! Erdogan accepted !!! The Japanese have called !!! The Chinese treated them !!! But after a few years it may well turn out that everywhere Russia was given ultimatums ... and to them, sadly, there was nothing to answer ...

[Campanella]

They have such a trend, Tollerasts. Putin has all the enemies in the partners who go, this phrase infuriates.

[Tusv]

Quote: Campanella

Putin has all the enemies in the partners who go, this phrase infuriates.

Do you have to call everyone Enemies? Partners - trade. Enemies - we are at war, And NATO with the USA only probable opponent

[ruigat]

Do you have to call everyone Enemies?

Enemies must be called enemies, not partners. And pursue an appropriate policy, and not wag 5 point like the oligarchy of the Russian Federation.

[Campanella]

You can call them, say, opponents.

[Setrac]

Quote: Campanella

They have such a trend, Tollerasts. Putin has all the enemies in the partners who go, this phrase infuriates.

You just misunderstand the meaning of the word "partners". These are partners in same-sex sex.

[Tusv]

Quote: Setrac

You just misunderstand the meaning of the word "partners". These are partners in gay sex

Well, anyone about what the soul hurts. That is, in the heterosexual sense, is it something else?

[Setrac]

Quote: Tusv

Well, anyone about what the soul hurts. That is, in the heterosexual sense, is it something else?

But the president cannot use this word - his moderator will ban.

[Tusv]

Quote: Setrac

But the president cannot use this word - his moderator will ban.

This is a joke. An agreement was reached at the meeting of the President with Russian women. Women do not humiliate Husbands with a wet rag, Men monitor the integrity of Wife's heels

[pru-pavel]

And how then to explain what about them are called "OUR partners"

[Dirty Harry]

Quote: Setrac

These are partners in the same sex.

not necessarily in the same sex - but the main thing is that not necessarily in voluntary!

[Fayter]

But there is no choice.
The goal of the West is to prevent Russia from rising, and it does not matter who the president, king or prince in Russia is.
After all the wars, Europe quickly rebuilt, which only speaks in favor of the fact that the main thing is to draw Russia into the war, it will always be able to recover afterwards, and it terribly enrages the West.

[Dangerous]

well, okay, politics is a dirty business, especially since this resolution was initially doomed to failure. It’s just that these countries are bedding, you can’t rely on them, and serious business is all the more so.

[Bull Terrier]

and the partner is the one who should do something to you?))) just the opposite. partners are called personally in my midst those who are temporary and profitable at the moment.

[Svarog]

Quote: Theodore

And nefig it was for the Kyrgyz to forgive their debts! Well, yes, they will make them soon!

Once again about foreign policy - it is a failure, especially with regard to post-Soviet countries .. If the Americans were just as liberal with respect to their vassals, then there was simply no dollar and American hegemony .. Countries that do not support us, these are countries that do not can be our friends .. Words are not important matters.

[Tusv]

Quote: Svarog

Once again about foreign policy - it is a failure, especially in relation to post-Soviet countries.

It depends on how.Do we buy or sell? We are interested in Our security or the prosperity of the post-Soviet republics at Their expense, but on Our hard-earned money?
For example, I do not consider our policy a failure. The United States has invested a lot of dough for Georgia, Ukraine and Moldova to join NATO. But in practice. You need to invest another 10 times more to achieve the goal

[Dangerous]

And what really is? The troubled situation is on our borders, and not on any Hungary there, as in the days of the USSR. And we are constantly in a defensive situation. And the Americans bought everyone, now they are pumping money, resources and are promoting their interests with the help of such litter countries

[Tusv]

And the Americans bought everyone, now they are pumping money, resources and are promoting their interests with the help of such litter countries

Well, litter countries are of little interest to me, and we wipe our feet on them

[Setrac]

Quote: Dangerous

The troubled situation is on our borders, and not on any Hungary there, as in the days of the USSR.

The situation at our borders has been troubled since the formation of the Russian state.

[Metamisolatria]

... Only the word "Russian" is not particularly favored by this state .. you can at some point snatch off for extremism. It is not held in high esteem. An illustrative example: in the zomboyaschik in the program "one-to-one", even the song was remade "for Chaliapin" - Instead of "Volga-Russian River" they sang tolerantly "Volga-V"Olga, you are mine... "everyone was satisfied.

[Warrior Hamilton]

Quote: Tusv

For example, I do not consider our policy a failure. The US has invested a lot of dough for Georgia, Ukraine and Moldova to join NATO

The population of the USSR as of January 1, 1991 amounted to 290,1 ​​million people.
Now in Russia there are 146 permanent residents, the remaining 880 live where:

Quote: Tusv

Well, litter countries are of little interest to me, and we wipe our feet on them

Of these, 30-35 million are Russians, the remaining 80% have not forgotten the Russian language.
Correctly say: "Nobody likes traitors!" Therefore: "What a hello, this is the answer!"

[Warrior Hamilton]

For thirty years they did not build a normal policy with neighbors, there was no time. It was necessary to afford "legacy" shove and play war games, so that the lekhtorat, God forbid, does not raise its head. One "concern", yes shuffling, but smart then what?

[Tusv]

Quote: Warrior Hamilton

For thirty years we have not built a normal policy with neighbors, there was no time. I had to shove the "legacy" into my pockets and play war games

To play Voynushka and teach the World different things, as our "Failed Policy" is discussed here. The peacekeeping contingents have been deployed and the parties to the conflict are not shrinking.
True Two of my friends received the Generals at 37 and retired immediately

[Warrior Hamilton]

"Clever boasts of his parents D / U \ R \ A \ K young wife" No offense
The conversation is over.

[Tusv]

Quote: Warrior Hamilton

Smart parents boasting young wife

How smart is he? Normal, honors his parents, educates children and praises the mother of his children

[Tusv]

Quote: Warrior Hamilton

Correctly say: "Nobody likes traitors!" Therefore: "What a hello, this is the answer!"

By the way, exporting Mother-in-law and Father-in-law from Turkmenistan for a brother cost 50 thousand rubles. After 3 years, that is, 9 years ago. I see an ad. Requires a programmer. Payment of 200 thousand rubles, housing is provided. In fact, the floor is modern
Stupidity is punishable

[Svarog]

Quote: Tusv

Quote: Svarog

Once again about foreign policy - it is a failure, especially in relation to post-Soviet countries.

It depends on how.Do we buy or sell? We are interested in Our security or the prosperity of the post-Soviet republics at Their expense, but on Our hard-earned money?
For example, I do not consider our policy a failure. The United States has invested a lot of dough for Georgia, Ukraine and Moldova to join NATO. But in practice. You need to invest another 10 times more to achieve the goal

Do you know how much we have invested in Ukraine? What is it worth only a loan given to Yanukovych .. And everything down the drain .. Our policy in all keys is a failure .. if you compare who spent the most money SSHA or we, it turns out that we .. There is no influence whatsoever on post-Soviet countries .. okay .. more precisely, it’s minimal .. Money needs to be invested where it is protected .. we even have strong pro-Russian parties and there are none in post-Soviet states .. here you need to trade where there are no our pro-Russian strong parties, with those countries as tough as possible in trade .. and this is not observed. Everything needs to be evaluated from the point of view of the result - we see the result .. more precisely, it does not exist, which means the policy is a failure. If you think differently, then what are the progress we have with the post-Soviet countries?

[Tusv]

Quote: Svarog

Do you know how much we have invested in Ukraine? What is it worth only a loan issued to Yanukovych .. And all down the drain .. Our policy in all keys is a failure.

Do you know how many injections in the ass the Ukrainian nurse did so that I had the honor to drive NATO aircraft on the border?
Yanukovych, not Abramovich. Presidency, tilki free movement within one’s country

[aglet]

Quote: Tusv

Do you know how many injections in the ass the Ukrainian nurse did so that I had the honor to drive NATO aircraft on the border?

how did she prick you with haloperidol? helped? now do not drive anything?

[Egorovich]

Such "friends" for a causal place and a museum, as they used to say. This is called political pros-ty-tion. With such allies and enemies are not necessary.

[New Year day]

Quote: Theodore

And nefig it was for the Kyrgyz to forgive their debts!

and not only them

[den3080]

Yeah. Elbasa is still an ally.
Either he thinks of going to Latin, then the American naval base in the Caspian is bustling ..., you can’t even remember about replacing the left Russian and Germans with oralmans (a completed fact).
Eekhma

[ast165373]

I would sincerely advise those who are worried about the votes of Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan - do you really think that the Kazakhs or Kyrgyz wanted to vote against Russia, but the Zimbabweans and Burundians themselves supported you?
Maybe Putin consulted with you about the UN resolution? Or to whom to sell gas or even raise the retirement age?

Better think about your Foreign Ministry and authorities that are losing authority. Why does Turkey bring down your planes and vote against Russia in the same resolution, and you give them the Turkish stream, sell the S-400 and climb in every way you can.

[tihonmarine]

What to take from the countries of Limitrophs, they think that they will receive a piece of the pie from Russia and the West. Turkey is an enemy for us since Ivan the Terrible, Japan since the beginning of the 20 century, Israel from the moment it was formed (as well as Poland and Ukraine).

[AntonP]

This is how "friends" are known ...

[Gray brother]

Quote: AntonP

This is how "friends" are known ...

I don’t remember selfless friendship.

[Vadim Zhivov]

Do not do good and do not receive evil.

[Cheldon]

The monument has an expression on his face, as if a chronic constipation tormented him. And, I can be mistaken, in Islam images of people are forbidden.

[Chichikov]

In Islam it is forbidden to depict "God". And the monument is normal, only the impression is that he is sitting on the toilet ...

[Setrac]

Quote: Chichikov

A monument, normal, only the impression is that he is sitting on the toilet ....

A normal monument shouldn't have that impression. The art of the "brothers" has degraded below the plinth, Tsaritelli is a genius in comparison with them.

[Separ]

Sultans can ..

[Dirty Harry]

Quote: Cheldon

Islam forbids images of people.

Nurik is not a Muslim, but a follower of Porfiry Ivanov (in any case, he was very fond of before). And about vodka, do not mind. At one time, the Ayatollah did not even vouch with him at the international meeting because of this.

[faiver]

What friends? everyone has their own national and political interests, it's time to get used

[rocket757]

Everything is natural.
Conclusion, you need to make your country stronger, in all respects, but for now, take fans to spoil those who have a hut with an edge, in pencil.
However, these are just dreams, dreams, what will happen next ??? And FIG knows her.

[Professor]

Israel is also on the list, seeking partnership after numerous provocations in Syria, as well as Japan talking about friendly intentions.

Russia has never missed the opportunity to vote AGAINST Israel. Never. Finally, Israel began to reciprocate.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: professor

Israel is also on the list, seeking partnership after numerous provocations in Syria, as well as Japan talking about friendly intentions.

Russia has never missed the opportunity to vote AGAINST Israel. Never. Finally, Israel began to reciprocate.

It is enough to see how the Russian Federation has voted for the last 25 years.

[ANCIENT]

aron-honestly, why are you better than the same usa? you, like the Yankees, are first of all more important than YOUR selfish interests, and any allies, only as long as they help you, or at least do not interfere. we had to honestly discuss everything from the beginning - yours flew into the sky of Syria - to knock them down instantly. everything would be honest, and without hypocrisy. we would help the Persians, as you help the ISIS, treating their wounded. yours would have fallen `` accidentally under our friendly fire '' - to know them like that fate...

[Tank hard]

Quote: ANCIENT

Aron, honestly, why are you better than the same usa?

To be honest, it's the same thing. IMHO.

[Servisinzhener]

like the Yankees, first of all, OWN selfish interests are more important, and all sorts of allies, only while they help you, or at least do not interfere

This is a general situation in international politics, such principles and rules are there. And there are no fraternal peoples, friendship between peoples and other things between countries. All these concepts are good in propaganda for the layman, but to consider that this is actually the case is wrong. Yes, even between people, this is not always the case.

[Vikxnumx]

Was there anything to support?

[Servisinzhener]

Ours, with stubbornness worthy of better application, vote in support of the Palestinians who are building their own state and are still not building it.

[Gray brother]

Quote: professor

Finally, Israel began to reciprocate.

Resolution against the bridge is power. Directly a mortal blow inflicted.
You yourself put such things, only now we have put it and he is looking in your direction.

[ANCIENT]

Professor, you have a holiday — there is a chance to spit in our side, or at least twist a cookie in our pocket — use it at maximum — twist three cookies, and, four, no, spit five times in the mirror ...

[Tersky]

Quote: professor

Russia has never missed the opportunity to vote AGAINST Israel.

Enough, we have voted once on November 29, 1947. To this day, we collect "ballots"

Quote: professor

Finally, Israel began to reciprocate.

Not really? And for the anti-Russian UN resolution on Crimea, the hand of the representative of Israel was forcibly raised.

[Professor]

Quote: Tersky

Enough, we have voted once on November 29, 1947. To this day, we collect "ballots"

1. In 1947, Russia was not.
2. It was necessary to vote "against" that unjust resolution.

Quote: Tersky

Not really? And for the anti-Russian UN resolution on Crimea, the hand of the representative of Israel was forcibly raised.

Learn the materiel. Israel did not vote then. But in vain. Reciprocity should be in everything.

Quote: kapitan92

Everything is okay! Israel supported its master

We have no owners since Egyptian slavery. It is time for you to free yourself from servile philosophy and ascribe to people the masters.

[ANCIENT]

professor, but now the owner from the United States whistled, you raised your paw against Russia-independent ... in your dreams ..

[Separ]

And who is Pontius Pilate in your alleged territory?

[Professor]

Quote: Separ

And who is Pontius Pilate in your alleged territory?

Procurator of the occupying forces in Judea, CEP. And for what purpose are you interested in?

[Krasnodar]

Quote: professor

Quote: Separ

And who is Pontius Pilate in your alleged territory?

Procurator of the occupying forces in Judea, CEP. And for what purpose are you interested in?

Prefect. )) Accidentally found in 1960 EMNIP year during excavations in Caesarea, the inscription proved it.

[Tersky]

Quote: professor

In 1947, Russia was not.

Russia has always been, before 47 there was no Israel.

Quote: professor

It was necessary to vote "against" that unjust resolution.

I would have known the ransom would have lived in Sochi. .

Quote: professor

Israel did not vote then.

I am not for then but for November 2016. Learn materiel, "professor"

[Professor]

Quote: Tersky

Russia has always been, before 47 there was no Israel.

Yeah. Is always. Russia became a country in 1991, Israel in 1948.

Quote: Tersky

I would have known the ransom would have lived in Sochi. .

Have you learned the materiel?

Quote: Tersky

I am not for then but for November 2016. Learn materiel, "professor"

And for not "then", but for "always". Russia always, 100 out of 100, votes AGAINST Israel. Finally, we began to reciprocate.

Quote: Setrac

You also say that the Jews worked in the mines, together we will laugh at the Jewish "hard work".

An example of Jewish industriousness is the state of Israel with a standard of living that you can only dream about and OUR potatoes on YOUR counters, and not vice versa, CEP. And this despite the fact that we do not steal hydrocarbons from future generations in order to buy devour abroad.

[Setrac]

Quote: professor

An example of Jewish hard work is the state of Israel with a standard of living you can only dream of.

Your standard of living is interest-free bad loans from the USA and Germany robbed by you.

[Professor]

Quote: Setrac

Quote: professor

An example of Jewish hard work is the state of Israel with a standard of living you can only dream of.

Your standard of living is interest-free bad loans from the USA and Germany robbed by you.

Give the numbers to the studio, otherwise you are tired of these unfounded accusations.
After you provide these figures, I, in turn, will show how much money you received from the sale of hydrocarbons. Then we compare something.

With regard to Germany "robbed" by us, we will consider the so-called. reparation of that same Germany to you.

[Setrac]

Quote: professor

With regard to Germany "robbed" by us, we will consider the so-called. reparation of that same Germany to you.

A very modest reparation to the indiscreet harm done by the Third Reich - the USSR. Israel generally does not have and did not have any rights, Israel did not fight against the Third Reich in principle, and it did not exist in nature then.

Quote: professor

Give the numbers to the studio, otherwise you are tired of these unfounded accusations.

Even without me, you are well aware of the size of interest-free bad loans from the United States and the size of the robbery of Germany - which Israel did not win.

Quote: professor

I, in turn, will show how much money you received from the sale of hydrocarbons

Hydrocarbon production beyond the Arctic Circle is not a trivial task; Russia receives this money with hard work, and not for free - like Israel.

[Professor]

Quote: Setrac

A very modest reparation to the indiscreet harm done by the Third Reich - the USSR. Israel generally does not have and did not have any rights, Israel did not fight against the Third Reich in principle, and it did not exist in nature then.

There was no Israel, there were Jews. I will not talk about the harm that Germany did to the Jews. By the way, why does Russia still retain Jewish property taken away by Germany from the Jews? Why does not return to the rightful owners?

Quote: Setrac

Even without me, you are well aware of the size of interest-free bad loans from the United States and the size of the robbery of Germany - which Israel did not win.

Figures in the studio.

Quote: Setrac

Hydrocarbon production beyond the Arctic Circle is not a trivial task; Russia receives this money with hard work, and not for free - like Israel.

Pump oil by foreign workers, foreign technology for foreign money and sell to foreigners freebie. I apologize for the Hebrew word.

[Setrac]

Quote: professor

I will not talk about the harm that Germany did to the Jews.

Heavily exaggerated and promoted by the Jews and much smaller than the Russians (Belarusians Ukrainians).

Quote: professor

By the way, why does Russia still retain Jewish property taken away by Germany from the Jews? Why does not return to the rightful owners?

Why Israel does not return the Golan, why the United States does not return gold to their rightful owners? And what kind of property are we talking about? Please specify.

Quote: professor

Pumping oil by foreign workers, foreign technology for foreign money and selling it to foreigners is a freebie.

So why lie? There is no freebie for Russia. The share of foreigners is insignificant; foreigners do not want to plow beyond the Arctic Circle. Foreign technology is bought at a loud coin and at an exorbitant price, unlike Israel - which receives technology for interest-free bad loans, and Russia has enough of its technology. Foreign money - what are you talking about? Nobody invests in Russia, capital flows only in the opposite direction - from Russia.

Py Sy Lied you comrade !!!

[Professor]

Quote: Setrac

Heavily exaggerated and promoted by the Jews and much smaller than the Russians (Belarusians Ukrainians).

Neither we (the victims) nor the Germans (criminals) question the number of victims.

Quote: Setrac

Why Israel does not return the Golan, why the United States does not return gold to their rightful owners? And what kind of property are we talking about? Please specify.

The elderberry garden, and the uncle in Kiev. Why doesn’t Russia return the works of art stolen by the Nazis to their rightful owners?

Quote: Setrac

So why lie? There is no freebie for Russia. The share of foreigners is insignificant; foreigners do not want to plow beyond the Arctic Circle. Foreign technology is bought at a loud coin and at an exorbitant price, unlike Israel - which receives technology for interest-free bad loans, and Russia has enough of its technology. Foreign money - what are you talking about? Nobody invests in Russia, capital flows only in the opposite direction - from Russia.

1. Of course this is a freebie (native Hebrew word). You sit on a pipe and do nothing. Just like in Saudi and Nigeria.
2. Foreigners today are citizens of Ukraine working in mining.
3. Hydrocarbon production technologies are exchanged for hydrocarbons themselves through green papers.
4. The bourgeoisie not only invest in "Russian" production companies, but also send their companies to produce Russian hydrocarbons.

So, don’t provide the numbers- I’ll stop feeding.

[Setrac]

Quote: professor

So, don’t provide the numbers- I’ll stop feeding.

1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 here are all the numbers presented to you.

Quote: professor

You sit on a pipe and do nothing.

The pipe itself, of course, grew out of the earth, and besides it is self-healing.

Quote: professor

2. Foreigners today are citizens of Ukraine working in mining.

Small part, very small.

Quote: professor

3. Hydrocarbon production technologies are exchanged for hydrocarbons themselves through green papers.

again a small part.

Quote: professor

4. The bourgeoisie not only invest in "Russian" production companies, but also send their companies to produce Russian hydrocarbons.

and they don’t pay to the Russian budget, cover taxes, deceive the Russian state, and the most interesting thing is that people with characteristic Jewish surnames rule there.

[Setrac]

Quote: Setrac

Neither we (the victims) nor the Germans (criminals) question the number of victims.

That's enough to lie already - the Germans were forced. They do not recognize anything and did not want to pay anyone initially.

Quote: Setrac

The elderberry garden, and the uncle in Kiev. Why doesn’t Russia return the works of art stolen by the Nazis to their rightful owners?

Which ones? Surname. Where is the Scythian gold? Where is the amber room? Where is the stolen Russian gold? Ah at the Jewish banks in the USA! When will you return ???

[aglet]

Quote: professor

With regard to Germany "robbed" by us, we will consider the so-called. reparation of that same Germany to you.

we took reparations once, rightfully the winner. and you still suck from the Germans, it is not known why. just don’t talk about the unfortunate victims of the Nazis. Russians perished many times more, besides Germany, Jews were spread rot and other Polish states, for example, but you pulled money and pulled it only from the Germans, not from the German fascists, who have not existed since 1945, but simply from the German people

[Professor]

Quote: aglet

we took reparations once, rightfully the winner.

1. How much did you take?
2. Why did they take what the Germans stole from others? Why didn’t you return these things to their rightful owners?

Quote: aglet

and you still suck from the Germans, it’s not known why.

You took by force, and the Germans give us themselves. They and we know why.

Quote: aglet

just don’t talk about the unfortunate victims of the Nazis. Russians died many times more

Only now the Germans did not put the destruction of Russian national idea. The Germans did not particularly touch the local Russian. My relatives (non-Jews) had German tankers in their hut in a village in the Kuban. They did not say a single word about the bad attitude.

Quote: aglet

In addition to Germany, Jews, spread rot and other Polish states, for example

1. "Gnobili" is not a suitable word. It would be more correct to "destroy as a nation".
2. The state of Poland did not destroy Jews as it was under the occupation of two other states, one of which was particularly distinguished in the extermination of Jews and Gypsies.

Quote: aglet

and you pulled money and pull it only from the Germans, not from the German fascists, who haven’t been there since 1945, but simply from the German people

1. It is the German people who are guilty of what happened to the Jews.
2. We do not pull, but they voluntarily help us financially in view of special relationships. If you want as humanitarian aid. By the way, how much did we get from Germany? Are there any numbers?

[Setrac]

Quote: professor

You took by force, and the Germans give us themselves.

Listen, come on, you yourself will give me one hundred billion dollars, so answer for your words, and then I will believe that the Germans "gave it themselves." You are like a rapist at the trial - she herself wanted - that's all your logic - the logic of a repeat offender.

Quote: professor

1. It is the German people who are guilty of what happened to the Jews.

Some Jews destroyed other Jews, and then third Jews came and put the first two in a corner - what did the Germans have to do with it?

Quote: professor

We do not pull, and they voluntarily help us

Occupied Germany Helps Israel Voluntarily !!! Probably Syria voluntarily gave you the Golan?

[Professor]

The numbers where? I do not feed the trolls.

[Setrac]

Quote: professor

The numbers where? I do not feed the trolls.

Why do you need numbers? We are not arguing about the exact size of the robbery of Germany or the size of lending to Israel by the Americans - the conversation is about the fact itself - or will you deny it?

[aglet]

Quote: Setrac

German tankers were guests in their hut in the village in the Kuban

but in Khatyn with the guests no luck

[Professor]

Quote: aglet

Quote: Setrac

German tankers were guests in their hut in the village in the Kuban

but in Khatyn with the guests no luck

Duc in Belarus Germans guerrillas disturbed. In the Kuban, apparently not. And not the Germans burned Khatyn, but their minions.

Quote: aglet

Quote: professor

1. How much did you take?
2. Why did they take what the Germans stole from others? Why didn’t you return these things to their rightful owners?

this is a small part of the compensation for a destroyed country. at that time, Germany was the legal owner, please, Israel has not yet been

In the sense of? The Germans robbed the Dutch Jews, took their paintings, and themselves into gas chambers. Did you come and take your loot? On what basis?

Quote: aglet

An interesting interpretation of the guilt of the people. After all, even Stalin did not blame the German people, although he had every right to do so. And such humanitarian aid was very interesting, right from the 1947 of the year and up to now. and most importantly, they were able to raise the scale of a whole country to it

Yosya Dzhugashvili is not my authority.

Quote: aglet

have you heard about the plan "ost"?

I heard. Not a word about the destruction of the Russian people in it.

Quote: aglet

if Jews were killed to take their valuables, Russians were killed because Russian. and that not all Russians were killed, so there were a lot of Jews alive, some were even taken prisoner by fighting in the ranks of the Wehrmacht

Not true. Jews were killed just because they were Jews. What were the values ​​of my relatives in the town? Nobody killed the Russians because they were Russians. Once again, my relatives and their neighbors in the Kuban did not live badly under the Germans. No one offended them. There were also no death camps for Russians or, say, Ukrainians.

About the Jews who were captured in the Wehrmacht, tell someone else, otherwise I’ll ask you to name at least 5 and you’ll be blown away in a second. Read and get smarter:
https://topwar.ru/23166-zamihovskiy-grigoriy-efimovich-matros-chernomorskogo-flota.html
Immediately shot Jews, those who had a typical appearance. Later, in Bakhchisarai, and in Simferopol prison, the Germans carried out a second purge, identifying Jews and political instructors

. Many Jews tried to impersonate Muslims, and if the Germans doubted whether the Jew was in front of them or not, they sent prisoners to the side where there were three traitors, a Muslim, who arranged an unfortunate exam, a test of knowledge of, say, the Uzbek or Tatar language. The Jews had virtually no chance of surviving. But there were many Jews in the Black Sea Fleet, a rather simple example. I arrived to serve on the ship as part of a group of 90 sailors, so of this number there were 11 Jews. In the “Osipovsky” regiment of the Marine Corps, there were about five to seven Jews.

[aglet]

Quote: professor

Yosya Dzhugashvili is not my authority.

Well, yes, I forgot, God's chosen one. for you no one is authority, if uncircumcised. well, maybe only dona trump

[Professor]

You do not know how to respond to one comment with one comment? Why for each line a separate comment? For importance?

Quote: aglet

Quote: professor

Yosya Dzhugashvili is not my authority.

Well, yes, I forgot, God's chosen one. for you no one is authority, if uncircumcised. well, maybe only dona trump

For me, circumcision is not a criterion for respect or not respect. Members of other men are not interesting to me. Yosya is not authority for me. Lee Kuan Yu authority.

Quote: Setrac

There are two contradictions at once.
First, the Russians were confiscated from the Germans and not from the Dutch.
The second - from whom claims - if the owners died in the gas chambers?
As in the joke: "and they shot me"

The owners died (not all), but their heirs demand that the paintings be returned to them. On what basis do you not return the loot? When did it suddenly become yours?

Quote: aglet

without getting captured, they fought in the Wehrmacht, but on the contrary, were captured, fighting in the Wehrmacht. here, read and smart-
Nationality Total number of prisoners

What are the names of at least 3's, and I’ll give you an educational program from where on the list came 10.173 Jews.

Quote: aglet

Quote: professor

In the sense of? The Germans robbed the Dutch Jews, took their paintings, and themselves into gas chambers. Did you come and take your loot? On what basis?

Well, firstly, rightfully the winner took away the values ​​belonging to the defeated enemy. secondly, reparations were not paid by paintings, maybe some minuscule. thirdly, we took no more than England, America, France, although the losses of the USSR were much higher in all areas. and in the fourth, it’s our business, and there’s nothing for you to poke your nose where they don’t ask

Firstly, these values ​​NEVER belonged to the Germans. These values, like the golden teeth of the prisoners, were taken away by force. Do you have gold crowns in Auschwitz too?
Secondly, there is no talk of any reparations. The paintings NEVER belonged to the Germans. You just exported the paintings and keep them in storage. On what basis did you pick up and not return someone else's?
Thirdly, both England and other bourgeois returned almost all values ​​to their rightful owners. You illegally misappropriated someone else's.
Fourth, this is my business. The thief should always be pointed out publicly.

Quote: aglet

but I didn’t even hear about the plan. and you know why, the Nazis didn’t have such a plan

Show me where in the OST plan there is even a word about the destruction of the Russians and I will give you an educational program about "Endlösung der Judenfrage", since everything is very neglected here.

[aglet]

Quote: professor

You do not know how to respond to one comment with one comment? Why for each line a separate comment? For importance?

I can. I feel so comfortable

[aglet]

Quote: professor

The owners died (not all), but their heirs demand that the paintings be returned to them. On what basis do you not return the loot?

I say again, at the time of receipt of the reparations, the owner was Germany. They didn’t fight Germany, lay under it, so she took your tzatskis, so bring Germany. we didn’t care what to take-the country needed to be restored. and I doubt that the reparations took pictures, that you were so fixated on them. they took machine tools, entire factories, warships and gold, like all the victorious countries and France, which joined them. or do you claim that the USSR specifically chose gold from Jewish teeth?

[Professor]

Quote: aglet

I say again, at the time of receipt of reparations, the owner was Germany

Was not, from the word "absolutely".

Quote: aglet

didn’t fight with Germany, lay down under it, so she took your tzatski, so bring Germany.

Holland? Is it now that this is an excuse for theft, such as the victim did not strongly resist and therefore her property belongs to me? Can you hear yourself, CEP?
Claims are presented by the heirs to the one who stole the stolen.

Quote: aglet

we didn’t care what to take-the country needed to be restored.

Looting has no excuse. By the way, the country was restored by strangers' paintings by storages?

Quote: aglet

and I doubt that the reparations took pictures, that you were so fixated on them

Once again, the paintings have nothing to do with reparation. This is ordinary theft.

Quote: aglet

they took machine tools, entire factories, warships and gold, like all the victorious countries and France, which joined them.

Only the rest of the countries the works of art stolen by the Germans in the majority were returned to their rightful owners or their heirs, and you illegally appropriated them.

Quote: aglet

or do you claim that the USSR specifically chose gold from Jewish teeth?

I affirm that the USSR illegally appropriated works of art that did not belong to it.

Quote: aglet

Quote: professor

You do not know how to respond to one comment with one comment? Why for each line a separate comment? For importance?

I can. I feel so comfortable

But it’s not convenient for me to run all over the branch. I will not answer more than one comment.

[aglet]

Quote: professor

But it’s not convenient for me to run all over the branch. I will not answer more than one comment.

I'll pay right now. I don’t need your answers anymore. I realized that the Germans took some picture from some of your ancestors, almost Malevich himself, and now you demand that I return it to you. demand from merkel, and what is taken from the battle is holy

[aglet]

Quote: professor

What are the names of at least 3's, and I’ll give you an educational program from where on the list came 10.173 Jews.

but do not you think that there is a lot of honor for the Jewish fascists, so that their names are known 70 years after the victory. google-yandex to help

[Professor]

Quote: aglet

and you don’t think that there is a lot of honor for the Jewish fascists, so that their names would be known 70 years after the victory.

About Jewish fascists, this is for you to the doctor.

Quote: aglet

google-yandex to help

The customer was blown away.

[aglet]

Quote: professor

About Jewish fascists, this is for you to the doctor.

if they fought in the fascist army, then who are they, if not fascists. They were captured in battles with the Soviet army, and not with the Wehrmacht. so the fascists are

[aglet]

Quote: professor

Quote: aglet
google-yandex to help

The customer was blown away.

just answered you with your words. that they did not find the names of their ancestors in the gugel? or did you find it?

[Consultant]

Quote: professor

the heirs are demanding that the paintings be returned to them. On what basis do you not return the loot?

And for what, in fact, is the reason "we" are obliged to "return" them?

If you also remember, "in the army there is no word (um) stolen, there is a word" loved ". The Dutch loved their paintings. And let the heirs ask the parents. That we loved. Something like this.

Quote: professor

England and other bourgeois returned almost all values ​​to their rightful owners

From this moment in more detail, if you can. With documents.

By the way, I really like the word "almost" here, it is very in place.

Thickly troll Oleg. Lose your shape. Probably getting older

[Professor]

Quote: Consultant

And for what, in fact, is the reason "we" are obliged to "return" them?

Due to your lack of ownership of them. Not yours.

Quote: Consultant

If you also remember, "in the army there is no word (um) stolen, there is a word" loved ". The Dutch loved their paintings. And let the heirs ask the parents. That we loved. Something like this.

No not like this. Theft is no excuse. By the way, the courts will begin soon and do not be surprised then that your state property will suddenly begin to be arrested abroad. This has already happened. As a result, the Russian Federation paid the bills.

Quote: Consultant

From this moment in more detail, if you can. With documents.

By the way, I really like the word "almost" here, it is very in place.

Easy. And the documents are available. I have been interested in this topic for a long time. "Almost" is because not all heirs can easily prove their right to the paintings. Many documents were lost during the war.

Quote: Consultant

Thickly troll Oleg. Lose your shape. Probably getting older

Not a troll at all. By the way, there’s a branch today that has already raised this topic at the state level.

[Consultant]

Quote: professor

documents are available

To the studio. You must answer for the words:

Quote: professor

and England and other bourgeois returned almost all values ​​to their rightful owners

We are waiting, sir. Especially interesting is what "almost" means.

Quote: professor

Not a troll at all

It’s ridiculous. Thank.

[Consultant]

Quote: professor

And when did this site begin to "answer" for their words?

Yes, it seems that it is not accepted here ... marvelous references, this one, the third in a row, I especially liked:

A court in Germany ruled that a collection of art collected during the Nazi rule could be deposited with a museum in Switzerland

The conversation was not for a little bit, no?

Quote: professor

Laughter for no reason ...

Well, don't be shy. When a blue-eyed troll declares that he "does not troll at all" - it's funny.

[Professor]

Quote: Consultant

The conversation was not for a little bit, no?

The museum is the rightful heir however. Read the article carefully.

[Consultant]

Quote: professor

Read the article carefully

This, in my opinion, is called hutspa.

The conversation was for "the return of almost all valuables by the bourgeoisie to their rightful owners."

The article is about the return possible attention - the Germans that their ancestors robbedto Switzerland.

Questions:
1. What does the article have to do with the issue under discussion?
2. Did you mean the Germans by "bourgeois who returned almost everything"?

[Professor]

Quote: Consultant

Quote: professor

Read the article carefully

This, in my opinion, is called hutspa.

The conversation was for "the return of almost all valuables by the bourgeoisie to their rightful owners."

The article is about the return possible attention - the Germans that their ancestors robbedto Switzerland.

Questions:
1. What does the article have to do with the issue under discussion?
2. Did you mean the Germans by "bourgeois who returned almost everything"?

1. You read all the links. There are not only about the Germans.
2. The Germans are also bourgeois.

[Consultant]

Quote: professor

The Germans are also bourgeois

The Germans in World War II are the aggressor. So the example is "out of the box".

Quote: professor

There are not only about the Germans

I believe. But "about the Germans" - vaasche not in the cashier, I'm talking about that. And in general, you said that you "have documents" on the topic "the bourgeoisie returned almost all the loot. ”You haven't shown it yet, words, words ... and chutzpah.

Bored Oleg

[aglet]

Quote: professor

Yah? And when did this site begin to "answer" for their words? Here, opponents are sent to Google / Yandex

so you send, there are no arguments, only fantasies

[aglet]

Quote: professor

"Almost" is because not all heirs can easily prove their right to the paintings. Many documents were lost during the war.

Yes, they were not, most likely. just really want to, "cut some money, quickly." that milk rivers from Germany are becoming scarce, a new source of dough needs to be unrolled

[Mordvin 3]

U, the pictures are remembered. So, the Finns won’t allow us to lift the Dutch paintings of Catherine the Second from the bottom of the sea. Or have you already quietly raised it yourself?

[Setrac]

Quote: professor

The Germans robbed the Dutch Jews, took their paintings, and themselves into gas chambers. Did you come and take your loot? On what basis?

There are two contradictions at once.
First, the Russians were confiscated from the Germans and not from the Dutch.
The second - from whom claims - if the owners died in the gas chambers?
As in the joke: "and they shot me"

[aglet]

Quote: professor

About the Jews who were captured in the Wehrmacht, tell someone else, otherwise I’ll ask you to name at least 5 and you’ll be blown away in a second. Read and get smarter:

without getting captured, they fought in the Wehrmacht, but on the contrary, were captured, fighting in the Wehrmacht. here, read and smart-
Nationality Total number of prisoners
Germans 2.389.560
Japanese 639.635
Hungarians 513.767
Romanian 187.370
Austrians 156.682
Czechs and Slovaks 69.977
Poles 60.280
Italians Xnumx
French 22.120
Yugoslavs (mostly Croats) 21.822
Moldavians 14.129
12.928 Chinese
10.173 Jews
Koreans 7.785
Dutch 4.729
Mongols 3.608
Finns 2.377
Belgians 2.010
Luxembourgers 1.652
Danes Xnumx
Spaniards 452
Gypsies 383
Norwegians Xnumx
Swedes Xnumx

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/

[aglet]

Quote: professor

In the sense of? The Germans robbed the Dutch Jews, took their paintings, and themselves into gas chambers. Did you come and take your loot? On what basis?

Well, firstly, rightfully the winner took away the values ​​belonging to the defeated enemy. secondly, reparations were not paid by paintings, maybe some minuscule. thirdly, we took no more than England, America, France, although the losses of the USSR were much higher in all areas. and in the fourth, it’s our business, and there’s nothing for you to poke your nose where they don’t ask

[aglet]

Quote: professor

Quote: aglet
have you heard about the plan "ost"?

I heard. Not a word about the destruction of the Russian people in it.

but I didn’t even hear about the plan. and you know why, the Nazis didn’t have such a plan

[aglet]

Quote: professor

I heard. Not a word about the destruction of the Russian people in it.

From the directive of A. Hitler to the Minister for Eastern Territory A. Rosenberg on the implementation of the Master Plan “Ost” (July 23, 1942)

The Slavs must work for us, and if we no longer need them, let them die. Vaccinations and health care are unnecessary for them. Slavic fertility is undesirable ... education is dangerous. It is enough if they will be able to count to one hundred ... Every educated person is our future enemy.

All sentimental objections should be dropped. It is necessary to rule these people with iron determination ... In military terms, we must kill three to four million Russians a year.
if Stalin is not authority for you, then probably Hitler is authority

[aglet]

Quote: professor

It is the German people who are guilty of what happened to the Jews.
2. We are not pulling, but they voluntarily help us financially in view of a special relationship. If you want as humanitarian aid.

An interesting interpretation of the guilt of the people. After all, even Stalin did not blame the German people, although he had every right to do so. And such humanitarian aid was very interesting, right from the 1947 of the year and up to now. and most importantly, they were able to raise the scale of a whole country to it

[aglet]

Quote: professor

1. How much did you take?
2. Why did they take what the Germans stole from others? Why didn’t you return these things to their rightful owners?

this is a small part of the compensation for a destroyed country. at that time, Germany was the legal owner, please, Israel has not yet been

[aglet]

Quote: professor

Only now the Germans did not put the destruction of Russian national idea

have you heard anything about the "ost" plan? or I don’t know anything besides the Holocaust? if Jews were killed to take away their valuables, Russians were killed because they were Russian. and that not all Russians were killed, so many Jews survived, some were even captured while fighting in the ranks of the Wehrmacht

[Vikxnumx]

So Russia just was!
Have you drunk the creators of your state already on your birthday? and will you drink until December 21, so as not to miss?
Or the owners do not allow ???

[Setrac]

Quote: professor

We have no owners since Egyptian slavery.

You also say that the Jews worked in the mines, together we will laugh at the Jewish "hard work".

[Krasnodar]

Heh. Compare Israel to Jordan, for example. It is clearly seen - who is hardworking, and who is not))

[Setrac]

Quote: Krasnodar

Heh. Compare Israel to Jordan, for example. It is clearly seen - who is hardworking, and who is not))

It is immediately clear that more hardworking people live in Jordan, because no one dates them (the USA), and they (Jordanians) did not rob the Germans by trillions by means of deception. Your "prosperity" on deception and robbery.

[Krasnodar]

Oh yeah.
1) The Jordanian defense industry, like the Israeli one, is subsidized by the Americans.
2) The Germans from 1933 to 1945 alone in Berlin took away billions of values ​​from Jews. And all over Germany? And throughout Western Europe?
3) I live in Russia. So what is there about robbery and deceit?

[Setrac]

Quote: Krasnodar

1) The Jordanian defense industry, like the Israeli one, is subsidized by the Americans.

Yeah, only the order of numbers is different.

Quote: Krasnodar

2) The Germans from 1933 to 1945 alone in Berlin took away billions of values ​​from Jews. And all over Germany? And throughout Western Europe?

Which Jews earned working in mines and factories? The Jews stole these values ​​by deceit and theft, just as is happening in Russia now.

Quote: Krasnodar

3) I live in Russia. So what is there about robbery and deceit?

At the moment, the Jews are robust so rip off Russia.

[Krasnodar]

1) The numbers are different, and the size of the dangers is different. Israel, if something happens, will have to fight against the entire Arab world. Jordanians have a maximum against the terror.
2) No, well, miners from any country in the world can be found on vacation in Monte Carlo, who is arguing? And theft - is that a Jewish theme?
3) Uh, have you seen many Jews in regional administrations, police, state corporations? )))
And again - theft is not a Jewish theme. Like a budget cut

[Setrac]

Quote: Krasnodar

1) The numbers are different, and the size of the dangers is different.

You yourself have chosen a place for your state - a bad choice is your fault.
This does not characterize you as a hardworking people and does not refute the fact of the robbery of Germany by Jews.

Quote: Krasnodar

2) No, well, miners from any country in the world can be found on vacation in Monte Carlo, who is arguing?

You have some kind of flat humor, uncharacteristic.

Quote: Krasnodar

And theft - is that a Jewish theme?

This is the theme of all nomadic peoples, theft is not a crime for former nomads.

Quote: Krasnodar

3) Uh, have you seen many Jews in regional administrations, police, state corporations? )))

I have not seen Jews in working professions working for the good of society.

Quote: Krasnodar

And again - theft is not a Jewish theme. Like a budget cut

I already wrote above, I will not be repeated.

[Krasnodar]

As for the Jews, they robbed Germany - the thesis of the Nazis, as for the unworking - in terms of labor productivity, like the Japanese, about theft - in Russia, you definitely did not encounter , and in Israel, probably, were often about Jews did not see in the workplace - my grandfather was a milling machine operator, his brother was a turner, his father was a foreman in a foundry. )))

[Setrac]

Quote: Krasnodar

about Jews did not see in the workplace - my grandfather was a milling machine operator, his brother was a turner, his father was a foreman in a foundry. )))

This means that you are a Jew by mother and not by father.

[Krasnodar]

Father - the master of the foundry - a Jew.

[Setrac]

Quote: Krasnodar

Father - the master of the foundry - a Jew.

A rare exception only confirms the rule.

[Krasnodar]

... and dad also had a friend Yosya - he worked as an electrician, EMNIP. Lev's friend was a crane operator, then he became a taxi driver. Cheto a lot, taking into account the grandfather, exceptions)). Great-grandfather was a shoemaker, the other - yes, a major timber merchant with the Romanians. The only non-proletariat per family. )))

[Setrac]

Quote: Krasnodar

and dad also had a friend, Yosia, who worked as an electrician, EMNIP. Lev's friend was a crane operator, then he became a taxi driver.

For my forty years I have never met a hard worker - a Jew.

[Krasnodar]

So there are not too many Jews left in Russia, and those who are there earn normally, because You can be a hard worker in Israel for a higher salary, with better living conditions, etc. Although, in Krasnodar, I met a Jewess - a cashier in a bank. He asked why she is not in Israel. He says he doesn’t want to leave Russia. I was surprised.

[Consultant]

Quote: Setrac

In my forty years

Well, what are your years ...

Quote: Setrac

I have never met

Probably never?

That is, what you personally have not seen is not in nature? Or why did you even say that?

[Warrior Hamilton]

Quote: Krasnodar

3) Uh, have you seen many Jews in regional administrations, police, state corporations? )))

Krasnodar! Fear God, not the seventeenth year .......... A hundred years have passed .....

[aglet]

Quote: Krasnodar

The Germans from 1933 to 1945 alone in Berlin took away billions of Jewish values. And all over Germany? And throughout Western Europe?

can I have a few numbers? and then a righteous (or rather, kosher) fuse is difficult to consider an argument. And throughout the universe?

[Krasnodar]

Google - Yandex to help)).

[aglet]

Quote: Krasnodar

Google - Yandex to the rescue

I’m not asking the googel, but you, do you know these numbers, or are you just making noise?

[Krasnodar]

I know of course. In general, 23% of Germany’s property, cash and other valuables were in Jewish hands at the beginning of the 30s.

[Dirty Harry]

Quote: Krasnodar

2) The Germans from 1933 to 1945 alone in Berlin took away billions of values ​​from Jews. And all over Germany? And throughout Western Europe?

But after 1947, everything had to be returned - not to the direct heirs of those killed, but to the state of Israel, to which the victims of the Holocaust were sideways. Figase feint ears ?!

[Krasnodar]

Well, the feint with the ears - not the feint with the ears - the Jews, and the FRG as well, had no particular choice. Moreover, in Israel, part of the population was against these compensations, but the country was really a beggar with great needs both in the defense industry, and the most modern, as well as in the absorption of Jewish refugees from Arab countries. Germany had a different interest - to improve its image in the Western world - Amers, for example, hated the Japanese, and treated the Germans with Respect until the moment they saw the concentration camps. Here the GDR simply refused to pay Israel and all. They were not up to image considerations.

[Dirty Harry]

Quote: professor

We have no owners since Egyptian slavery.

Yah? Babylonia, Seleucids, Roman Empire does not count? for the period from Nebuchadnezzar to 1947 you were sovereign only under the Hasmoneans - EMNIP, a century and a half.

[ruigat]

We have no owners since Egyptian slavery.

What a fright? Assyria, Babylon, Persian Kingdom, Greek states, Roman Empire, Arab Caliphate, Crusaders, Ottoman Empire, Fed owners. You always had a full host.

[Krasnodar]

The coolest ones are the Fed)). Then the crusaders.

[Polymer]

Quote: professor

We have no owners since Egyptian slavery.

Yes?! And what about the Romans and Pontius Pilate?

[kapitan92]

Quote: professor

Russia has never missed the opportunity to vote AGAINST Israel. Never. Finally, Israel began to reciprocate.

Everything is okay! Israel supported its master. Now, if it were otherwise, it would be worth considering what UTB Jews intended there.

[Krasnodar]

I wonder why this Israel, unlike its "master", did not join the anti-Russian sanctions?

[kapitan92]

Quote: Krasnodar

I wonder why this Israel, unlike its "master", did not join the anti-Russian sanctions?

Deliveries of Israeli agricultural products to Russia increased by 100%. Such information was passed to Cursor from Ofek Israel, an organization that analyzes the impact of various political events on Israeli exports.
The volume of agricultural exports to Russia was estimated at about 80 million shekels. Carrots, potatoes, greens, fruits, as well as organic products are in greatest demand here.
Jews sir!

[Tersky]

Quote: Krasnodar

+1
I wonder why this Israel, unlike its "master", did not join the anti-Russian sanctions?

Who will introduce them against their own? It's like a laying hen bringing golden eggs to chop his head.

[Tusv]

Quote: professor

Russia has never missed the opportunity to vote AGAINST Israel. Never.

Well, like this. We are one of the five world police officers, you are malicious hooligans. Gop stop constantly

[Professor]

Quote: Tusv

Quote: professor

Russia has never missed the opportunity to vote AGAINST Israel. Never.

Well, like this. We are one of the five world police officers, you are malicious hooligans. Gop stop constantly

Hmm ... Judging by the resolution under discussion, the bully is just you.

[Tusv]

Quote: professor

Hmm ... Judging by the resolution under discussion, the bully is just you.

And in what? Defend your border hooliganism? If about Crimea, then there are the results of the referendum and the decree of the President of the Russian Federation. Where are you in the Gaza Strip and the Golan? Not even a filinka letter

[Professor]

Quote: Tusv

Quote: professor

Hmm ... Judging by the resolution under discussion, the bully is just you.

And in what? Defend your border hooliganism? If about Crimea, then there are the results of the referendum and the decree of the President of the Russian Federation. Where are you in the Gaza Strip and the Golan? Not even a filinka letter

It seems like, except for Syria and a couple of "democracies", no one recognized your supposedly borders ... The referendum is finally fun. We ought to hold a referendum in Gaza and count the votes ourselves. This is a new word in international jurisprudence.

But somehow we did not think of a referendum, and we don’t need someone else's like Gaza, but the Golan or whatever it is in Arabic is originally our land. Gamla will not let you lie.

[Krasnodar]

I’m afraid that during a referendum in Gaza, the majority will vote for joining Israel)))) What the Israelis do not need under any sauce ..

[Professor]

Quote: Krasnodar

I’m afraid that during a referendum in Gaza, the majority will vote for joining Israel)))) What the Israelis do not need under any sauce ..

That's it. Bullshit is all about the referendum in the occupied territory.

Quote: Tusv

So We need to seize the floor of Europe again - the original Russian zemlyushka
And according to the Bible, you came from Egypt and captured a foreign country

1. Teach the Bible in order not to write nonsense.
2. Name at least one Arab city in the Golan, or whatever they say in Arabic, and we will discuss "half of Europe".

Quote: VIK1711

And how are you to Lebanon ???

No way. We do not claim a centimeter of Lebanese land.

[Krasnodar]

In the unoccupied Tul-Karem, for example, hold such a referendum without interference from the authorities - most will be happy to want to obtain Israeli citizenship. )))

[Professor]

Quote: Krasnodar

In the unoccupied Tul-Karem, for example, hold such a referendum without interference from the authorities - most will be happy to want to obtain Israeli citizenship. )))

Well nafig them. We do not want them.

[Krasnodar]

Here I am about the same))

[ANCIENT]

Professor-we are recognized by those who have at least some conscience, who are not afraid of your hosts, so you can don’t hang noodles on our ears, eat it yourself ..

[Tusv]

Quote: professor

but the Golan, or whatever it is in Arabic, this is primordially our land. Gamla will not let you lie.

So We need to seize the floor of Europe again - the original Russian zemlyushka
And according to the Bible, you came from Egypt and captured a foreign country

[Vikxnumx]

And how are you to Lebanon ???

[Setrac]

Quote: professor

It seems like, apart from Syria and a couple of other "democracies", no one recognized your supposedly borders ...

Legal documents do not need third-party recognition.

[MMX]

Quote: professor

Quote: Tusv

Quote: professor

Hmm ... Judging by the resolution under discussion, the bully is just you.

And in what? Defend your border hooliganism? If about Crimea, then there are the results of the referendum and the decree of the President of the Russian Federation. Where are you in the Gaza Strip and the Golan? Not even a filinka letter

It seems like, except for Syria and a couple of "democracies", no one recognized your supposedly borders ... The referendum is finally fun. We ought to hold a referendum in Gaza and count the votes ourselves. This is a new word in international jurisprudence.

The right to self-determination of peoples is one of the key principles of international law and is enshrined in the UN Charter.
By the way, Israel owes its existence, formally, to this very principle. Therefore, "a new word in international jurisprudence", for Jews in general and for you personally, should be like a lighted totem. Therefore, every morning getting out of bed, dear Professor, pray for him until you sweat, and then on business.

[Professor]

Quote: MMX

The right to self-determination of peoples is one of the key principles of international law and is enshrined in the UN Charter.

Are you talking about Ichkeria?

Quote: MMX

By the way, Israel owes its existence, formally, to this very principle. Therefore, "a new word in international jurisprudence", for Jews in general and for you personally, should be like a lighted totem. Therefore, every morning getting out of bed, dear Professor, pray for him until you sweat, and then on business.

I am not religious and pray only once a year. And those who pray with us do this by turning to face Jerusalem, or whatever it is called in the Qur'an, and pray to the Almighty.

[MMX]

Quote: professor

Quote: MMX

The right to self-determination of peoples is one of the key principles of international law and is enshrined in the UN Charter.

Are you talking about Ichkeria?

No, I'm talking about "a new word in international jurisprudence" called - one of the basic principles of international law, enshrined in Article 1 of the UN Charter. Thanks to which, more than 70 years ago, the state of Israel was formed.

I am not religious and pray only once a year. And those who pray with us do this by turning to face Jerusalem, or whatever it is called in the Qur'an, and pray to the Almighty.

Well, this is your business. I just opened my eyes to you. Do not give thanks.

[Professor]

Quote: MMX

No, I'm talking about "a new word in international jurisprudence" called - one of the basic principles of international law, enshrined in Article 1 of the UN Charter. Thanks to which, more than 70 years ago, the state of Israel was formed.

And I thought about Ichkeria. They did not see the right of the nation to self-determination. Can you remind them?

[aglet]

Quote: professor

And I thought about Ichkeria. They did not see the right of the nation to self-determination.

no one interfered with their self-determination. but when they started to drive the Russians out and kill them, rob trains, hijack planes, take hostages, that is, return to their national values, then they had to hint to them that they were wrong. I say a hint, because in the normal way they didn’t fight with them, despite all their efforts, the general people were excited, the commander in chief was insole. basically they made money, on both sides, only in the trenches did they pour blood

[Professor]

Quote: aglet

no one interfered with their self-determination. but when they started to drive the Russians out and kill them, rob trains, hijack planes, take hostages, that is, return to their national values, then they had to hint to them that they were wrong. I say a hint, because in the normal way they didn’t fight with them, despite all their efforts, the general people were excited, the commander in chief was insole. basically they made money, on both sides, only in the trenches did they pour blood

Interfered and prevents them from self-determination. The paradox is that when it comes to the peoples inhabiting the territory of the Russian Federation, the Kremlin immediately recalls "The principle of inviolability of state borders; The principle of territorial integrity of states", and when it comes to other states, they suddenly recall the "Right of the nation to self-determination." You either take off the cross or put on your pants.

By the way there is no such nation Crimeans, but even if there were a referendum at gunpoint automatic machines does not have legal force.

[aglet]

Quote: professor

By the way there is no such nation Crimeans, but even if there were a referendum at gunpoint automatic machines does not have legal force.

and here you are completely right, my kosher. there is no such nation - Crimeans, there are Russians, some Ukrainians and a little Tatars. Did you see those terrible "muzzle of automatic weapons" yourself, or did Aunt Sarah from Moldavanka tell you?

[Professor]

Quote: aglet

and here you are completely right, my kosher. there is no such nation - Crimeans, there are Russians, few Ukrainians and a few Tatars

Those. Ukrainians self-determined and separated from Ukraine? Nobel Prize to you, urgently.

About the Tatars would generally be silent.

Quote: aglet

Did you see those terrible "muzzle of automatic weapons" yourself, or did Aunt Sarah from Moldavanka tell you?

I do not know your aunt Sara from Moldovan woman and do not want to get acquainted. About the machines of evidence is enough for any The Hague, my not kosher. By the way, do you even know what kosher is or blurt out where later?

[aglet]

Quote: professor

Those. Ukrainians self-determined and separated from Ukraine? Nobel Prize to you urgently

there were few of them, Ukrainians, and Tatars too. here they are in those 10% and entered. there are overwhelming Russians

[aglet]

Quote: professor

I do not know your aunt Sara from Moldovan woman and do not want to get acquainted. About the machines of evidence is enough for any The Hague, my not kosher. By the way, do you even know what kosher is or blurt out where later?

I know, I know, I know everything. Here are only the facts about the "muzzles of machine guns" have not seen anywhere else, only in the fevered imagination of some individuals. and the Hague will still answer for the Serbs

[Antares]

Quote: professor

Russia has never missed the opportunity to vote AGAINST Israel. Never. Finally, Israel began to reciprocate.

11 cons and no answers what the author of the post is wrong ....
ehh hats, cheers patriots and sofas, what do you turn the site into? An emotional bunch of teenagers? Where are emotions more important than reason?
A total of 6 resolutions were put forward, all condemning Israel and supporting the Palestinians.
Russia / USSR really voted against Israel.
If the vote or resolution for Russia is fair and it is necessary to implement the resolution, if against Russia, it can be wiped out .. double standards.
It’s an honor to say that everyone has their own interests, not resolutions.
But Israel also immediately sees the allies ... constant and consistent ... Unfortunately, the Russian Federation is trying to RB, but it still blames ... Why it is not clear even to the allies in the Russian Federation ... apparently they need to be fed. But there is no money.

[aglet]

Quote: Antares

In Russia, unfortunately, one RB is trying, but it still does not blame ...

and what is she trying so hard for? Cheap oil begging for sweat? or is it building a common state, a common army, a common industry? so no, sort of

[rayruav]

here are supposedly allied women, such as for loans and another freebie, are they to blackmail them forever in difficult times, yes, that they never took these geographic news, for what are we monuments to them, friends with our friends?

[Grits]

The farther, the more and more evidence accumulates that Nazarbayev was reminded of some injustice of finding northern Kazakhstan or other southern Siberia as part of this same obscure state as dill.
I think that soon we will face this phenomenon closely. True, then we’ll scream that we’ve realized late.

[Tank hard]

Quote: Gritsa

The farther, the more and more accumulated grounds for reminding Nazarbayev of some injustice of finding northern Kazakhstan or another southern Siberia as part of this same obscure state as dill

Why is it RF? But the human resource from the "Russian-speaking citizens" of Kazakhstan, Russia will not hurt. IMHO.

[Grits]

Why is it RF? But the human resource from the "Russian-speaking citizens" of Russia will not hurt.
Yes, and the northern territories will not hurt us either. On which we raised the virgin lands and established the economy. And before that, only the baboons on horseback for camels ran along the steppes, imagining themselves descendants of Genghis Khan. Or will we act like in Shumerii - wait for the final collapse and desolation of our lands with the economy we built?

[Arthur 2700]

As for the economy, you made laugh))))) pump the pipe, it's like a narik push nonsense, and there and there a trade union specialist))))

[Talgat 148]

Budyonny also rode on a horse. And finally that you are all on horseback and on camels ?! And you moved on foot and you had no cavalry? Hussar finally ?! The same livestock breeders as everyone at that time. Or all the same on foot ?! Radish you are not finished !!))))

[Nurali.kz]

Almost everyone has Nazi comments here. It will not work to capture our original Kazakh lands (learn history). It was necessary to vote in general, the entire world adequate community against your accession (capture) of Crimea. You look at the list of countries that were against))) Zimbabwe go be friends with them. Officially, Kazakhstan did not admit that your Crimea. We really are in alliance with the Russian Federation. But just a little that you all begin to pour mud on everyone who did something wrong to you. Due to the sanction against the Russian Federation, Kazakhstan also indirectly suffers.

[Arthur 2700]

In principle, I agree, the only thing is that Ukraine had no relation to Crimea! Do you support the annexation of the GDR to the FRG? And the annexation of Puerto Rico: On November 7, 2012, the citizens of Puerto Rico voted in a referendum to join the United States as the 51st state. On June 11, 2017, Puerto Ricans voted in a political status referendum to join the United States as the 51st state. Or Hawaii

[Tank hard]

Quote: Nurali.kz

Almost everyone has Nazi comments here.

Quote: Nurali.kz

It will not work to capture our original Kazakh lands (learn history).

Quote: Nurali.kz

It was necessary to vote in general,

Quote: Nurali.kz

the entire world adequate community against your accession (capture) of Crimea

Quote: Nurali.kz

Zimbabwe go be friends with them.

Quote: Nurali.kz

Officially, Kazakhstan did not admit that your Crimea

Quote: Nurali.kz

Due to the sanction against the Russian Federation, Kazakhstan also indirectly suffers.

Solid pearls!
And after all this beauty, the very cherry !:

Quote: Nurali.kz

We really are in alliance with the Russian Federation.

Such are the allies ...

[Nurali.kz]

Adequate answer is not fate? Afraid to be wrong. It’s better for you to simply unsubscribe

[Vorchun]

Normal allies, well, just think, they like to "trip" Russia, but with a knife in the back, while Do not hit!

[flint]

What have you built on your ancestral lands over several thousand years? piles of tents? This is Russian land, the Russians brought civilization here. The Russians founded the first cities in South Siberia - Petropavlovsk (1752), Pavlodar (1720), Kostanay (1879) and even the modern capital of the country, the so-called Astana (1830). The history of this land is inextricably linked with the rest of Siberia and all of Russia. It begins during the formation of the Siberian Cossack Army (1582). Then in these places ran a line of defense from the Asian nomads.
South Siberia is a special region and this Russian region has nothing to do with Kazakhstan itself. The country's authorities are trying to squeeze the Russians out of there as soon as possible, and they are doing great. Before the collapse of the Soviet Union, 6,5 million Kazakhs (40% of the total population) and 6,1 million Russians (37%) lived in Kazakhstan. According to the 2009 census, 10 million (63%) were Kazakhs, and only 3,7 million (23%) were Russians. Now even less. In fact, there is a soft, but large-scale ethnic cleansing, which Russia is embarrassed to talk about - it’s indecent, God forbid, we offend the Eurasian ally, although the ally will say it mildly so-so. So you did not deserve other comments here.

[Nurali.kz]

Yes, you copied almost the entire text insolent

[flint]

But what, in order to carry out a number of ethnic cleansing of the Russian population, do I need to conduct a census of the population myself? What difference did they copy or not, the most important thing is the truth, and the truth is that the Russians brought industry, education, medicine, in other words, civilization, gave statehood to nomadic tribes, and now the Russians are accused of all serious difficulties and driven out of their families places And the local population still has the audacity to accuse the Russians of nationalism!

[Grits]

and the truth is that the Russians brought industry, education, medicine, in other words, civilization, to these lands.
The best indicator of "Kazakh civilization" will be when we leave for our cosmodromes and give the Kazakhs for full use of Baikonur. In view of the impenetrable greed of akyns for renting its use. I propose the rates - for how many years will Baikonur, with the new "tse Asians", turn into a pasture of camels and a place where it is convenient to mow wormwood for bedding cattle breeders?

[flint]

If they turned it into a pasture, this is half the trouble. I’m afraid that they will immediately give it to the Americans at least for a military base, with all the ensuing consequences.

[Grits]

It will not work to capture our original Kazakh lands (learn history)
Your original Kazakh lands around Almaty.

[Tank hard]

Quote: Gritsa

Almaty

City, military fortification, Cossack village "Vernaya", founded by the Russian government on February 4, 1854.
We are waiting for the call to learn history.

[Samara_63]

They themselves are to blame, in FIG we are such Allies?

[Sayan]

I don’t understand the indignation over the Allies - even Alexander III said - Russia has two allies, an army and a fleet. Since then nothing has changed and will not change

[Lekxnumx]

Army and navy, army and navy blah blah blah. What happened to the son of Alexander 3? His only allies and betrayed the king’s family. It’s not funny to repeat this stupidity? How did the army and navy help with the collapse of the USSR? You love gentlemen pathos

[Sayan]

You can’t imagine the stupid answer - the army and navy did not support the rulers who betrayed them, both the tsar’s family and the degraded party elite of the late USSR, so there’s no need to engage in a substitution of concepts and distort the facts, and if you want to distort it, you’re a member of both parties and forward

[Lekxnumx]

So that's what it is?))) If Alexander knew what would happen to his son, he would not call the army and the navy the only allies. It smells of hypocrisy when to quote the pathos of the tsar, and when to look from a different prism as "traitors" of the kings, the ruling elite, etc. e So do not quote the tsar who praised the army and navy, which killed his son and tsarism in Russia. The only allies split into two camps of white and red. Did not save either the family of the author of this quote, or the country. Another one appeared from the collapse of which, too, did not save army and navy, again a new one. If there is a revolution in the Russian Federation, it is not a fact that the army and the navy will stop it, maybe some for Putin and others for another. The army and navy are people in the first place, people of flesh and blood, different opinions of worldviews. not a separate structure guarantor of something or someone against an external enemy yes. And when inside the country kapets comes different representatives of the army and navy, occupy different barricades. Less pathos, traitors say the top of the party? Well, the army was supposed to escort them to the shooting of a pizza advertisement in the USA. I didn’t do it and there’s no country. Although every day you shout the army and the navy are the only allies. Some generals fought against another once whole united army in Chechnya. Here and hack everything on the nose and the army and the navy and all the rest are first of all people with their own problems and views. If you are not in the last 100 years of history realized this, what to expect from you in terms of neighbors? They are also different and they also have interests. Well, don't trade with bad allies, let the army and the navy feed.

[Russia]

Armenia and Belarus pleased the Uzbeks well done.

[Tank hard]

Quote: Rusland

Uzbeks well done.

Here it is pleased. Respect to the Uzbeks.
"Not that friend of yours who drinks with you at the table,
And who in unhappiness of any comes to the rescue.
Whoever gives a firm hand will relieve anxiety.
And he won't even give the appearance that he helped you. "
Omar Khayyam

[de_monSher]

with Ukraine and the USA, there were graters even when you, the Russians, "kissed" passionately with them ... *))) With Ukraine, from 94th they began, when they began to put spokes in their wheels in trade .. . *)) From what, the same "woman with a scythe" did not go to us, to negotiate gas supplies, when the first graters went to you with Ukraine, but to the deceased, "Turkmen head" First ... *))) she then dressed up, a la "schoolgirl" - she found out somewhere that he was greedy for pedophilia (then I watched their transmission, in Khiva, on the border with Turkmenistan - there Julia wagged her backside in front of him) ... *))) Our then, Karimov, the deceased, would have kicked her in the ass on the move ... *)) And with the USA, old graters, from the very 91st year (they supported all trash who fled to them, to Norway and Sweden) thaw in 2001-2004, and again - graters ... *))) And still - a wary attitude ... "let's trade - don't stick your nose anywhere", like ... *))

[Arthur 2700]

Was the race stuck back in '91? ))))) there is no such country as Belarus and the USSR have long been gone !!!! 27 years old! ))))

[Grits]

Armenia and Belarus pleased the Uzbeks well done.
Taking into account the new leadership, Armenia not only pleased, but also most likely surprised

[Alexander not great]

Well, why should they be friends with you) here you call them ... a bad word.

[Fungus]

No one sold out. Kazakhstan is full of Russian facilities and bases. Plus general defense. Plus frequent exercises. Just many people are afraid of sanctions from the United States.

[Tank hard]

Quote: Fungus

Nobody sold out

Well, yes, it's just such a friendship and a union.

[Spine]

Quote: Tank Hard

Quote: Fungus

Nobody sold out

Well, yes, it's just such a friendship and a union.

Especially when you consider that the baby Tony Blair has been with Nazarbayev in the main advisers for many years ..
But Old Man Lukashenka here like to drive in full some "tovaischi" .. Sometimes he speaks out sharply, but still for Russia always!
Friends are in trouble ... Nazarbayev was blown away there and ruled by his relatives from the Jules along with the Naglosaks ..
Astana will also have to take)))))

[Arthur 2700]

If the dad had not been threatened by the tribunal and had the thinking of a communist not political instructor from the plow (in the army), he would have unfolded aglobli long ago. .... and yes! The club is non-replaceable. ...

[Talgat 148]

28 Panfilov’s from Almaty will keep the defense near Astana! Once Moscow was kept from the Nazis and we will keep Astana from you!

[Tank hard]

Quote: Talgat 148

28 Panfilov’s from Almaty will keep the defense near Astana! Once Moscow was kept from the Nazis and we will keep Astana from you!

As if from 28 Panfilovites, only 3 were Kazakhs ( that, final, does not detract from their feat), 1 Kyrgyz, with one more "misunderstanding". The remaining 23 of those from which you apparently were going to restrain Astana...

[Tank hard]

Quote: Fungus

Just many people are afraid of sanctions from the United States.

By the way, is that not the price for ..?

[rayruav]

all these internationals are fictitious Trotskyists

[Alexander not great]

the list of countries supporting the Russian Federation shows the entire level of achievements in foreign policy)

[Kibl]

Such "friends" for a member of the museum! Yes, in general, to hell with all sorts of Turkey and Japans! All these suckers of the fifth point of the United States will themselves otkrebut in full program from their overseas owner!

[Aleks2048]

But today, on this site of minuses, urapatriots have proved to me that the Russian Foreign Ministry is only gaining victory. But as practice has shown, from the number of minuses here, the UN Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation has not been up to par. It is probably annoying to minusers when reality, even of one day, destroys pink castles of wet fantasies.
You must be able to listen not only to the Wishlist, but also to the voice of reason.

[Fungus]

But nothing that 74 countries abstained? Could and vote. Everything is normal in politics. In the first resolution on Crimea, 112 was.

[Aleks2048]

But nothing that 74 countries abstained?

Apparently nothing. The resolution is adopted.

[ANCIENT]

yes, life only confirms to us every day, Russia does not have allies, but temporarily clinging to scoundrels and crooks seeking profit, and, at the first threat to Russia, fleeing their rat holes, there are no numbers. Betray those who squeal about frustration, maybe they need to be a little more scratchy, and squeal about their sale, about their duplicity and banal cowardice.

[cniza]

Yes, everything is the same - "Russia has two allies, the army and the navy" ...

[Antares]

Quote: cniza

Yes, everything is the same - "Russia has two allies, the army and the navy" ...

isolation in globalization is a step back in development.

[vadimtt]

But where did you see the isolation?
Just NATO led by the United States mired in its own little world (very small, by the way)

[Alexander X]

Like a flock of small mongrels, they attack from all sides. But they do not understand that their "new owners" will chase them with a kick in the tail ... But ours are good too - everyone flirts, fawns ...

[A good one]

The Japanese signed a death sentence, Medvedev must be sent to the islands again, let him annoy them.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Not bad

Medvedev must be sent to the islands again

can I go further?

[Vikxnumx]

and in today's weather without a boat!

[Hypersound]

Times are changing: some 5 years ago, out of 157 countries, 150 would have voted for this resolution, 2-3 against and 3-4 more would have abstained. Now half of the countries have passed from "pro" to washing their hands and expressing their neutrality. These 72 countries, feeling that Sher Khan was not the same, decided to watch the battle of the two tigers from afar, refusing to openly support the former leader of the "civilized world"

[cniza]

Fraternally: 2 member of the EAEU "abstained" in voting on the resolution against the Russian Federation

And how many countries simply shied away from the vote, fearing the United States.

[seacap]

Quote: silberwolf88

you probably don’t know the story well ... it happened more than once ... for example, after entering a limited contingent of troops in Afghanistan ...

Yes, but not on the primordially Russian lands, abundantly watered with blood by Russian soldiers, with a part of our Russian people, who 3 corrupt, poor cattle from some hangover decided in the forest that they were not ours, but mythical independent countries, pushing them out of countries in the joyful embrace of greedy "partners".

[123454321]

The Nazarbayev Monument - there wasn’t even enough gold for the toilet. The United States froze Kazakhstan's foreign exchange reserves by $ 22 billion.

[Ros 56]

Nothing, all these tricks in due time will come around.

[Arthur 2700]

Yes, some kind of struggle will come after Putin and say: as much as you want of the sovereignty bayar. ..... and the Russians? But Russian women still give birth ......

[Setrac]

Quote: Arthur 2700

But Russian women still give birth ......

These words were said by an American general during the American Civil War.

[parusnik]

The Ukrainian draft resolution, which denies the Russian Federation the elementary right to protect its borders, was supported by 66 countries.

... Purely in partnership ... Russia has no enemies. Some partners ... And abstained. My house is on the edge, I don’t know anything. Whatever happens. Turkey’s position is not surprising. From the word at all. Especially pipes. " The Turkish stream "came ashore from the deep sea. There is nothing personal, only business. Money will be paid neatly and in full. And it will be shitty. The position of Kazakhstan ... will it still be ... after the death of the guarantor. Kyrgyzstan? "Russia is a generous soul!" ... And there is nothing to say about Israel. Their main friend and comrade is the United States.

[Chicha squad]

Armenia, Belarus, Bolivia, Burundi, Cambodia, Cuba, DPRK, Iran, Laos, Myanmar, Nicaragua, Serbia, Syria, Sudan, South Sudan, Uzbekistan, Venezuela, Zimbabwe

Best friends of Russia :))

[Redfox3k]

Still better than "... USA, Israel, UK"

[Vlad 63]

And here they proved to me with foam at the mouth what a super ally Turkey is. And that they are obliged to build and sell nuclear power plants and sell the S400 is the highest form of cunning plan. Cons stuck

[Arthur 2700]

What suggestion? Close all borders and dig dugouts ??? Humanitarian aid with S. Korea carry ??? If someone else buys goods other than oil, then rejoice. .... in a couple of years it will become obsolete, and others will sell the systems and believe me no worse. ... do not look for enemies and allies, look for benefits for the people, the state will not offend itself anyway, the adjustment of the pension will be canceled. ...

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Who else wants to name some of the former union republics ,, fraternal ,,?!

[Arthur 2700]

Why brothers should pay your sanctions and other losses for free. If the Russian people can tolerate the Crimea (I support), but why do we need it?

[Boris Ivanov]

The only language Washington understands is rigidity. The US scoffs and intimidates other countries with impunity because most governments are afraid to challenge US hegemony.

Appeasement is counterproductive and suicidal. Failure to tolerate US hostile action is the only effective answer.

The United States considers Russia, China and all other sovereign independent countries to be enemies or adversaries, not partners.

Russia's faith in partnership with Washington is pure fantasy. Republicans and Democrats want to turn Russia into a vassal state in any way, including a possible nuclear war.

[BAI]

telling about friendly intentions Japan.

Japan has the most territorial claims against Russia. How else could she demand the islands?

[mavrus]

I don't know about Kyrgyzstan, but Kazakhstan will still show itself ... Ukraine will seem like a candy. If under the Union there were only a third of the Kazakhs' population, today it is almost two-thirds ... If after the collapse of the Union, when the Russians were "crushed" everywhere (in all the former Soviet republics), the Kazakhs calmed down a bit, today the question of the superiority of the Kazakhs is again, as in the nineties becomes a priority for Nazarbayev

[Arthur 2700]

Do you suggest that the Kazakhs move in, how did the Russians move in front of the Caucasians in Moscow? It is not Kazakhs who should, but you will find order in yourselves.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Nazik in his repertoire, he flew to a gathering in the Bialowieza Forest, but did not fly (the plane was not refueled), as he always wants to sit on two chairs

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Nazik in his repertoire, he flew to a gathering in the Bialowieza Forest, but did not fly (the plane was not refueled), as he always wants to sit on two chairs

He, like Gunpowder, hopes that Kazakhstan will forever be within the borders of the Kazakh SSR ...

[Vlad5307]

Quote: kapitan92

Quote: Krasnodar

I wonder why this Israel, unlike its "master", did not join the anti-Russian sanctions?

Deliveries of Israeli agricultural products to Russia increased by 100%. Such information was passed to Cursor from Ofek Israel, an organization that analyzes the impact of various political events on Israeli exports.
The volume of agricultural exports to Russia was estimated at about 80 million shekels. Carrots, potatoes, greens, fruits, as well as organic products are in greatest demand here.
Jews sir!

The fact that for Israel 100% for Russia is a drop in the bucket.

[senima56]

"Russia has only two allies: its army and navy!" Alexander III.

[ROBIN-SON]

Maybe in those days it was normal, but now in the conditions of hybrid wars it is not enough.

[Arthur 2700]

What allies can Rasea have if the Russians don’t even know what their number one ally is called!
To which gas is injected at a premium, our goods are not allowed in, while they want us to suffer financial losses from their own sanction! Do we need this? You can’t go far on kisses alone, you want to eat and it is advisable to eat well. ....

[loki565]

Japan can not give poison, citing unfriendly policies. If we give it back, they will take it as a weakness and announce claims to other islands, on some Japanese maps all of Sakhalin belongs to Japan.

[ochakow703]

A little cowardly "brothers" ...

[ROBIN-SON]

The USSR had many allies. One Warsaw block was worth what. In the GDR of the GSVG. Tank divisions with T-80 tanks (English Channel) two weeks with battles before Brest. The shock and awe of Europe. But leaked slowly

[Redfox3k]

In fact, only the GDR was an ally in the normal sense of the word, the rest - formally, would have fled at the first opportunity. So now the situation is normal.

[Anatol17]

The German Democratic Republic was exactly the same “ally” as the other “countries of people's democracy.” Even before unification with the FRG, the Germans fled to the west in droves as soon as this became possible in the late 80's. The Soviet leadership knew perfectly well that there was no selfless love to be loved you need to give a lot of money and other nishtyaks, as well as to know that in case of which they don’t hesitate and use the power. As soon as friends realized that all this was in the past, they immediately sent a “big friend” to hell. It’s full of schoolchildren who imagine a big and pure love that was between the great-mighty and its satellites.

[ROBIN-SON]

Do not la la about the Germans of the GDR. Yes, civilians fled, because separation of families occurred. But the army of the German Democratic Republic was a normal ally, and for any now it would be on our side. Others yes question

[Anatol17]

Yes, all the armies of the "socialist camp" were "normal." The army is actually an instrument that is controlled by the political leadership. What it decides is what the army does. All the former socialist countries had about the same picture.

[Lara Croft]

That is, Uzbekistan, which is not a member of the EAEU, supported Russia, and representatives of Bishkek and Astana decided that it would be better to stay away from presenting an unambiguous position on the sidelines.

"Tell me who your friends are and I'll tell you who you are ...."

[Vladimir K]

All these fake allies know who is the boss in the house. There is no need to grieve over this: everyone has their own interests.

[Talgat 148]

You have allies rusty fleet and Syria!

[Babermetis]

Voted and voted ... ordinary citizens so what, diplomatic prestige? The main thing is that there would be a peaceful sky, sea and land. Are the civilian population of Crimea and the rest of the Russian Federation and your neighbors happy, they’re not fighting? So what's the difference, what and how they vote in New York ...

[Antares]

Why criticize their "brothers" if the Russian Federation itself behaves in a capitalist way. Quite a young capitalist predator. He does not experience any fraternal feelings in business.
And the resolution ... well, this is just the opinion of "some partners" for other partners.
Judging by the list of countries, the most economically developed are against. Many abstained (do not care about disputes in Europe). Judging by the list For the Russian Federation - it’s sad. it’s not even funny to read this list. Apart from Belarus and Uzbekistan with Armenia.

[Catfish]

Quote: ROBIN-SON

The USSR had many allies. One Warsaw block what it cost

Also, they found allies. And what did the Warsaw block cost? How long did it last after the collapse of the USSR?
You would have glanced at recent history, if only for the sake of interest, before carrying nonsense. Allies ... were, while in Russia a strong hand held a nuclear baton, and our tank divisions were stationed near the capitals of these "allies". What happened in Hungary do not remember? And most likely you just don't know, you would know, you wouldn't write such nonsense. And now nothing has changed, everyone prays to their god and cares for their own wallet. So let's not talk about the "allies" ...

[The leader of the Redskins]

"Friends are known in a bidet ..." - thought a young girl, peeing after a party for a pregnancy test.

[high]

Neither Japan, nor Turkey, nor Israel have ever been friends of Russia.
Moreover, Israel, after a vote at the UN on the recognition of Hamas as terrorism, December 7, 2018.
87 countries supported Israel, including Ukraine, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Poland, and Russia supported Hamas terrorists by voting against Israel.

[romb]

It is ridiculous to observe how Russia fancies itself a hero, in every possible way fighting against the fraternal people. The couch patreotnya is especially funny, which is spiteful on the net. And then they are even more seriously surprised and trying to blow their lips, and why other more adequate countries do not want to join this shameful process. No wonder they say that in order to get rid of the mentality of a slave, it is necessary that the descendants live several generations free. And thus they fully realized themselves as a personality, and not just as part of a large controlled biomass. Seeing the process of evolutionary reformatting of Russians from serfs into free citizens has not yet been fully completed.

[garik77]

What sugs shit smelled

[Catfish]

Quote: romb

The couch patreotnya is especially funny, which is spiteful on the net.

And what to pay attention to, this good was enough at all times. And you don’t need to spend time on them, something serious will start at the moment they shut up themselves.

[WEL7958]

in the history of Russia there were no friends of brothers and sisters, there were enemies and trading partners, the rest is an illusion.

[Victorio]

it’s not worth breaking the spears, everything is discussed among themselves there

[Redfox3k]

From time immemorial nothing has changed.

[garik77]

These are not allies, but fellow travelers at best.

[Device]

Representatives of these types of brothers do not hide their attitude towards Russia and the Russian people. Just read the comments on the forums of the most literate and advanced natives. And what can we say about the dark aul oralmans? Russophobia has always flourished there. One can count the Nazi uprisings in these regions over the past 100 years. They managed to swell even in Soviet times. Read what happened in the capital in 1986 and the reason for the national pogroms. So those Nazis were also heroized. Just like the Nazi uprisings of 1916 and 1941.
Read the archives of military registration and enlistment papers from Kazakhstan during the war.
Gribanov - 7 brothers from the RVC of the Dzhambul region were called up. Killed - 5.
Serdybaev - 8 brothers calmly grazed their sheep throughout the war...

[Device]

Now the regular Nazarpatriots will come running. They will downvote everyone.

[Talgat 148]

It’s good if we just minus it! And we can also spank you!!!!

[Device]

They are still sleeping. The sun did not rise over Tien Shan.

[Hole puncher]

The Ukrainian draft resolution, which denies the Russian Federation the basic right to protect its borders, was supported by 66 countries. It is clear that this is Ukraine and all NATO countries.

There are 29 countries in NATO, not 66. Please announce the entire list...

[Conductor]

Nazar is a cunning Kazakh, TRUMP took him for a scam with the arrest of Kazakhstan’s assets in the USA, Sweden, and so he spins like crazy. ok didn't upvote. And the Kyrgyz, well, where should they decide to survive?

[Device]

No politics. Only genetics!
When a Kyrgyz fine-fleece ram is crossed with an Edilbaevskaya sheep, according to Mendel’s law, 2 bastards are obtained, and one representative of the breed each. They bred many bastards...

[LeonidL]

Russia's only friends are its Aerospace Forces, Navy and Army!

[Talgat 148]

Rusty smokehouse Kuzya and Syria are your allies!

[bukhach]

Such allies are better than orcs like you.

[NKVD]

Aha Turkey shot down our plane and we gave them gas and a nuclear power plant. Our government and oligarchs are rotten through and through for the sake of money they are ready to do anything

[Sofia]

Surely Uzbekistan would not support it. They are implementing projects in Russia that Kyrgyzstan has never even dreamed of. Kyrgyzstan has been fed with promises for two decades, and they don’t just write off debts, only if there is something to write off for, and there is. The main oligarch of the Uzbeks, Usmanov, in Russia, by the way, he became the one or only wise oligarch, did not get along very well with the previous Uzbek leadership, and he orients the current ones, according to the merchant’s, laid out on his fingers, probably, where there is more profit. Therefore, the Uzbeks kept the weapons of their states after Afghanistan and worked with NATO instructors and received Russian investments and technologies. And Kazakhstan is trying to be an equal partner not only with Russia, but also with the West. Maybe he came to his senses and ate bass after he received a slap on the forehead from the states. The Kazakhs are worse than the Ukrainians; the Ukrainians are the source of civilization in the world history of mankind, while the latter are Kazakh anthropologists. Like this. In principle, voting is important, but it is the result of a complex interweaving of factors, not a true attitude.

[de_monSher]

Surely Uzbekistan would not support it. They are implementing projects in Russia that Kyrgyzstan has never even dreamed of.

Hardly because of this. Uzbekistan, since 91, has lived “within its means.” We never even dreamed of the “long-term loans” that were allocated to Kazakhstan by the West... *)) But we not only supported our infrastructure, but also developed it well, and only at the expense of our own internal resources - which is what we are using now. Even in Afghanistan, they extended a railway line - so that, just in case of a fire, they have leverage... *))) Kazakhstan now has debts to the West, about 200 billion, you can’t really show off here - they’ll pin you down, not enough it will seem. And this is not an attempt to “humiliate” Kazakhstan - we are neighbors, and we only want it to prosper - but simply a statement of facts. But in any case, both Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan understand perfectly well that if you, Russia and the USA, start a fuss, the response from the USA will come IN OUR direction, not in theirs... That is why, in essence, Uzbekistan supported you, and Kazakhstan like he said, “Stop talking about it already - we’ve had enough of it!” Because, roughly speaking, you and the United States are now playing very dangerous games. It’s time for you to end this, sit down at the negotiating table again and renegotiate on all points - and not hold the whole world hostage. Like that...

[watchmaker]

What does it mean when allies, as it were, vote against Russia, or abstain? In my opinion, there is only one thing - the leadership of these countries was promised some preferences from the West, and personal accounts in offshore companies increased manifold. A striking example is Ukraine. When Valtsman “drives”, this does not mean at all that the people are of the same opinion. Today, most often, the opinion of the people of a number of countries is radically at odds with the foreign policy of these countries, which depends only on a handful of leaders who have sold themselves to the West.

[Russian Crimea]

go to dill if they let you through, and talk to the knowledgeable and independent horses and you will understand everything. You will find out how fiercely they hate Russia and everything Russian. Believe me, at least 70% of the entire population are like that. By the way, they expressed their wolfish grin and dissatisfaction with Russia even under the USSR. Those who served in the SA and there were crests there, let them remember these informers and ass-lickers. But under the communists, no one could believe that the crests would still stab them in the back, so today they got what they have. I know what I’m saying, 23 years of occupation of Crimea under the dill-Banderlog herd became a good “lesson” to see everything in real “color”.

[annodomene]

What “camp” is China in?

[redcod]

Why should Kazakhs support what they do not accept? The Russian Federation annexed Crimea, and at the same time did not ask or consult anyone. The same for South Ossetia, Abkhazia, DPR and LPR. The Kazakhs and Kyrgyz do not support the Armenians in Karabakh, like Russia. Why should we follow your left-wing movements? Explain to me. Kazakhstan has always stood and stands for the territorial integrity of any state. We are for the peaceful resolution of any conflict situations. What questions might you have for us? Many people write here that Russia has given us a lot. What has Russia given us since 1991? Covered our debts? Does he build something for free? Gives us money? Arming us? No! Everything that comes from Russia is generously paid at world prices. So, what do you want from us? We are friends, that is. We live in peace, solve problems at the negotiating table, trade using simplified schemes, etc. What else do you need? So that we meddle in your politics? We don’t want to and we won’t. Are you creating problems for yourself by pursuing your own goals, and all your allies and friends should support you? Then bring all your proposed actions to the CSTO and EurAsEC for discussion, get permission from these bodies and move on. Then you can be indignant that you were not supported on some issue.

[Device]

Hey, oralman, does Russia still owe you something? Have you gone crazy? You drove out almost all the Russians, and now you are rushing to Great Russia. It’s not we who are coming at you, but you. The Alma-Ata-Moscow train is crowded with aborigines, just like the Lviv-Moscow train. Why are you needed in Russia? Fed up.

[Talgat 148]

[Quote] [/ quote]

[Russian Crimea]

Take the pan off your head, it’s clearly putting pressure on your brain and blocking your view. I am from Russian Crimea, like all my ancestors. When we, Crimeans, all voted as one for secession from dill, and Great Russia decided to accept us back into its family, this day became a national holiday for all Crimeans! And don’t say anything about Crimea that you don’t know or judge Russian Crimea based on someone else’s fairy tales.

[redcod]

Do you even know the meaning of the word "oralman"? Literally - “returned”. But I never left. I have lived in Almaty all my life and have no plans to leave anywhere. I didn’t write about the fact that Russia owes something there. I wrote that we do not owe you anything and are pursuing our foreign policy taking into account our interests. There are no more Kazakh guest workers in Russia than there are Russian guest workers in Kazakhstan, but we are not humiliating yours here. The person working is a great guy. Russians are opening their own businesses here, they are also great, they are developing our economy. And everything else is not from a great mind. And let's do without insults and rudeness. This applies to all commentators.

[Dirty Harry]

Quote: redcod

Kazakhstan has always stood and stands for the territorial integrity of any state. We are for the peaceful resolution of any conflict situations. What questions might you have for us?

because in Soviet times, through the efforts of commies grabbed a fair chunk of the original Russian territories. Remind the founding dates of Pavlodar, Ust-Kamenogorsk, Semipalatinsk, Guryev? And the dates of the annexation of the Younger and Middle Zhuzes to Russia?

[Talgat 148]

Shout anything! Today and forever - this is Great Kazakhstan!!!!

[Dirty Harry]

Quote: Talgat 148

Today and forever - this is Great Kazakhstan!!!!

Today, yes. And forever... There have never been countries in history that have remained “forever”. For Egypt is not Ta-Kemet, and Iraq is not Sumer!

[Talgat 148]

And that doesn’t matter anymore! The main thing is that by that time you and I will no longer exist, even in the form of bones and dust!

[Dirty Harry]

Quote: Talgat 148

The main thing is that by that time you and I will no longer exist, even in the form of bones and dust!

Who knows... How many fly-by-night states were there? From 1918 to 1940 the Balts were also sovereign - for how long? And the trouble is that it will not be us who will conquer you - then remember the old proverb: “Kara kytai kaptasa - sary orys akendey bolar!”

[romb]

You are aware that this is a proverb from the Soviet period. It appeared only in the sixties, as a way of manipulating the Chinese Kazakhs during the Soviet-Chinese graters.

[Dirty Harry]

Quote: romb

You are aware that this is a proverb from the Soviet period. Appeared only in the sixties

Proof, please? And before Kazakhstan joined Russia, its entire history with China was peace, friendship, chewing gum?

[romb]

And before joining Russia, there was no China as such. What do you mean by China: Khitan, Xianbi, Tabgache, Tang, Qin, Yuan, or Manchu?

[Dirty Harry]

Quote: romb

What do you mean by China: Khitan, Xianbi, Tabgache, Tang, Qin, Yuan, or Manchu?

Tianxi Zhongguo (Celestial Middle State), which did not change its name under any of the numerous barbarian dynasties - these barbarians on the Chinese throne quickly became sinicized!

[romb]

Jungo is a designation: “Under Heaven” - Celestial Empire. And why did you write this to me?
The only time the Chinese dynasty came to Turkestan was the campaign of the Tang dynasty, against the Arab invasion. And there was a battle on the Talas River. But even there, they were given such a lesson that they frightened their children in their environment for almost a thousand years.

[Dirty Harry]

Quote: romb

Jungo is a designation: "Under Heaven"

excellent knowledge of Chinese! Celestial Empire = Tianxi (similarly, Heavenly Mountains = Tien Shan; heard, I hope?) Zhong = middle, go = state.

[Dirty Harry]

Quote: romb

The only time the Chinese dynasty came to Turkestan was the campaign of the Tang dynasty, against the Arab invasion.

Moreover, the Kazakhs did not yet exist at all.

Quote: romb

They were given such a lesson that they frightened their children within their environment for almost thousands of years.

Yeah. The Arabs fought with the Chinese for 5 days, and the Turks stood and watched - and on the 6th day they unexpectedly attacked the exhausted Chinese (obviously, it was the Chinese who began to win). Awesome heroes...

[romb]

The only proverb that was regarding relations with the Republic of Ingushetia was the one that said: If you maintain relations with a Russian, keep your ax ready. And as life has shown, it was and is true.

[aglet]

Quote: Talgat 148

Shout anything! Today and forever - this is Great Kazakhstan!!!!

When did Kazakhstan become great? I missed something in this life

[Talgat 148]

Ooooh! Then you finally missed everything!!!! Especially when you consider that we are 9th in the world in terms of area, we have 6 satellites assembled in Kazakhstan and we at the UN vote as we want and for whom we want!!! Brother, go for a walk, it’s too early for you to compare your pussies here! )))))))

[aglet]

Quote: Talgat 148

Especially when you consider that we are 9th in the world in terms of area, we have 6 satellites assembled in Kazakhstan and we at the UN vote as we want and for whom we want!!!

hold your tongue little one, because the area can sharply decrease, to the historical borders. In addition to the great power (although what am I, Kazakhstan is a great power?) aplomb, you need to have an industry, an army, a literate population in order to preserve your territories. what of this does Kazakhstan have (well, except for 6 satellites, of course)

[Talgat 148]

Will never decrease, armchair warrior! Never!!!
And our industry is the best!!!! In short, you can't beat it! Rest in peace, go to sleep!!! I am stronger than you because I have the truth behind me! I love my people and country, but you don’t! Where is the pride in the past Veliros?! Got smaller.... You can’t calm down even though you know you’re wrong! I forgive you, I don’t want to sleep anymore! Ciao.

[Dirty Harry]

Quote: Talgat 148

It’s too early for you to compare pussies here! )))))))

It’s certainly too early for Kazakhstan and Russia! We have as many people in Moscow as in all of Kazakhstan!

[Talgat 148]

In this way you will lose Saratau, Astarkhan, Tomen, Kazan, Shebarkul, and other Turkic cities! )))))) founded by our ancestors long before the zhuzes entered the citizenship of the kings! )))

[aglet]

Quote: Talgat 148

In this way you will lose Saratau, Astarkhan, Tomen, Kazan, Shebarkul, and other Turkic cities! )

When these cities were founded, your ancestors wandered the steppe with their skinny cattle, lived in leaky yurts and could neither write nor read. although they knew fire already then, they invented hot water a little later

[Talgat 148]

The cattle were fat, the yurts were strong and warm, and they could read and write, but there was never any hot water in Rus', even now in some places! ))))))) Especially in wooden log houses where they heated in black! )))) They invented fire! )))))))) Give up, the truth is on my side and we are a great nation and a great people! But you don't! ))))))))

[Dirty Harry]

Quote: Talgat 148

The cattle were fat, the yurts were strong and warm, and they could read and write, but there was never any hot water in Rus', even now in some places!

That’s why, when the Khan of the Bukey Horde, Dzhangir, just 200 years ago, decided to marry a Kazan Tatar, her mother dissuaded her in the following terms: “What’s the point of living in a golden yurt if you have to go out into the steppe to take a leak?” Will you deny this fact?

[Talgat 148]

Well, you went to the yard! And so what????

[Dirty Harry]

Quote: Talgat 148

Well, you went to the yard! And so what????

and you are in the villages now, like Khan Dzhangir - “to the steppe, beyond the yurt!”

[Talgat 148]

Are you stupid?! Are you stuck on the toilet topic?! Is this what worries you most?!

[romb]

And so what? You still walk like that. This can be understood, if only because of the condition of your entrances and parks.

[Talgat 148]

Here you say.....maybe you are Kazakh????! And what kind of entrances and parks do we have? Mlyn, who am I talking to?! Do you really think that we all live in yurts and go to the toilet in parks and entrances? Although there is still an entrance! )))))) Vosstaniya Square and the metro in St. Petersburg really stink of urine!

[aglet]

Quote: Talgat 148

Vosstaniya Square and the metro in St. Petersburg really stink of urine!

so you're crap there, you're used to it in the steppe

[romb]

Well, okay in the steppe. It's even a thrill.
But the fact that you urinated and walked around right in the house is evidenced by historical data. For many, this habit still remains.

[romb]

Yes of course. It was Alasha Khan - the Horde Urus Khan - who made you “Russians”, giving you a “self-name” in his name. This is where it comes from, all this grammatical gimmick with an adjective answer to the question: whose? Answer: - Uru. It was he who was one of those khans who gave the Moscow tributaries the exclusive right to collect yasak from other vassal territories inhabited by Slavic and Ugric tribal groups, and the existence of amorphous quasi-states. Apparently the Muscovites knew how to kowtow to their masters. And by the way, this same Urus Khan, in medieval historiography is considered to be the first of the Kazakh khans, the creator of the Ak Horde. So, both the people of the Horde and the Kazakh Khanate are one and the same people.

[aglet]

Quote: romb

Urus Khan, in medieval historiography is considered to be the first of the Kazakh khans, the creator of the Ak Horde.

Where did the Kazakh khan come from in the Middle Ages? did Kazakh “scientists” come up with this? and Urus Khan was Russian, he conquered your tribes and created some kind of temporary pseudo-state. Nomadic pastoralists cannot create a state, at most, some kind of wandering horde. and a link, please, to medieval historiography

[romb]

My eyes. What have you done to them?
Stop reading fantasy.
Read historical sources. Something like that:
Tarih-i Rashidi - Muhammad Haidar
“Bahr al-asrar fi manakib al-ahyar” - Mahmud b. Emir Vali
Mihman-name-yi Bukhara ”- Fazallah ibn Ruzbikhan Isfahani
Fath Nam - Shadi Malls
Shaybani-nam - Kamal ad-Din Binai
Tarih-i Kipchak-hani-Hojamkuli-beka Balkhi
Habib al-Siyar - Giyas ad-Din Hondaamir
Ahsan at-tawarikh - Hassan-beka Rumlu
Badai al-wakai - Zayn al-Din Mahmoud Wasifi
Alam-ara-yi Safavi
Tarih - Shah Mahmoud Churas
Tarih-i alam-ara-yi Abbasi - Iskander-bek Turkman Munshi
Nusah-i Jahanara - Qazi Ahmad Ghaffari
Tarih-i Haidari - Haidara Razi
Jami at-tawarikh - Kadir Ali-bey
Ta-varih-i guzida-yi nusrat-name -
Zubdat al-asar - Abdallah b. Muhammad Balkhi
Tarih-i Kashgar - Shah Mahmoud Churas
Shajara-yi Turk - Abu l-Ghazi Khan
Firdaus al-ikbal - Shir-Muhammad ibn Avaz-bii-miraba, Muhammad Riza-mirab ibn Er-Niyaz-beki\
Zhami at tawarikh - Kadyr Ali-bek b. Khoshum Beg Jalair

[aglet]

Quote: romb

Stop reading fantasy

even in fantasy I have never seen such a large set of letters? what was it? and in what language? in Kazakh? It’s better to provide a link, and I can read it myself

[romb]

Be enlightened. As it is, your IQ level is quite low. Consequently, I have absolutely no interest in communicating with a person whose abilities are barely enough to write his last name without errors.

[aglet]

Quote: romb

So, both the people of the Horde and the Kazakh Khanate are one and the same people.

your ancestors were driven across the steppe by the Uzbeks, Karakalpaks, Mongols, and whoever there was. But your scientists are composing a completely different story. I just couldn’t find any works published before 2002. Apparently, only then did your scientists learn to write

[romb]

Anything has happened in the history of the Kazakh people. But the Kazakhs never paid tribute or stood on their knees, begging for handouts from other nations. Which, moreover, are also tens of times smaller. If I were you, I would, in general, erect a monument to Zhoshy, Batu, Urus, Uzbek, Temirlan and Mamai, as the true founders of the Russian state. Without them, you would instantly turn into resigned victims of the Catholic crusades. The Teutons would have let you mincemeat back in the thirteenth century. And in the best case, now, you would be babbling in Polish-German. And this is if the Kipchaks and Bozhanaks did not harness for you. Otherwise, there would be another dialect of the Turkic language. Which, without any reason, was and in some places still remains the basis of the Russian language.

[aglet]

Quote: romb

Kazakhs have never paid tribute or been on their knees, begging for handouts from other nations.

there is a joke about the elusive joe. just on topic

[romb]

But we can’t say anything about the topic? Although, I already realized that you will be nothing but whining and whining.

[Dirty Harry]

Quote: romb

If I were you, I would, in general, erect a monument to Zhoshy, Batu, Urus, Uzbek, Temirlan and Mamai, as the true founders of the Russian state.

Excellent nonsense... especially Mamaia (whom we poked at) and Temirlan (who did not dare to go to war in Rus'. Don’t remember about Yelets - it was the territory of the Horde at that time). And especially:

Quote: romb

if the Kipchaks and Bozhanaks did not harness for you.

Before the Battle of Kalka, the Mongols told the Russian princes that the Kipchaks (=Kazakhs) were our runaway slaves". But about:

Quote: romb

Apparently the Muscovites knew how to kowtow to their masters.

slaves are not taken as sworn brothers (like Khan Sartak - Alexander Nevsky) and daughters (like Mengu-Timur - for Fyodor of Rostov) and sisters (like Uzbek - for Yuri Danilovich of Moscow) are not married off to them. We were not slaves, but vassals - and quite respected!

[romb]

I’ll tell you a secret, just don’t tell anyone about it.
Temirlan was the one who actually gave you a sense of freedom: defeating Tokhtamysh, the troops of Mamai and the Great Horde. You even thought that this tragedy within the Mongol-Turkic world gave you the strength to become independent. And, oh horror, they even smugly decided not to pay tribute to Tokhtamysh. To that, Tokhtamysh came, and with small forces, very quickly explained who was who here, and who was really worth what.
Mamai, on the other hand, was a military leader during whose time the Great Zamyatnya took place. As a result of this fratricidal conflict, horrifying in its scale, the Great Empire lost a significant part of its human potential. If it were not for this person, you would still be part of some Turkic power. And your heads fought in every possible way for the next yasak and tamga, and for the right to be called beloved... that is, the head of a territorial-administrative unit within this power.

[aglet]

Quote: romb

I’ll tell you a secret, but you, mind you, don’t tell anyone about it. Temirlan was the one who actually gave you a sense of freedom

It may well be. But what does this have to do with the Kazakhs and Kazakhstan, which arose in 1936? in 1936, romb!

[romb]

In short, let's close this topic. She has outlived her usefulness. But, most importantly, you, and dear comrades like you, must understand that everything is not as it seems to you. And this may end in such a way that it will only get worse for us and you.

[Dirty Harry]

Quote: romb

It was Alasha Khan - the Horde Urus Khan - who made you “Russians”, giving you a “self-name” in his name.

yeah, and from his enemy and successor Circassian Khan the Circassians descended - despite the fact that the Byzantine chronicles mention the “people of Ros” 5 centuries before Urus Khan, and the Kerkets (Circassians) even earlier!

[romb]

what Ros? The one that is called by the Persians - the people of the Turkic group:
“The Rus are one of the Turkic tribes. Their country [is located] near the Slavs, [they] are dirty to the extreme, they do not shun any uncleanness. And if one of them commits theft, he is tied to a tree and left until he won't die." (Aja'ib al-buldan - Nizam ad-Din Abd al-Ali ibn Muhammad ibn Husayn al-Birjandi)
The Russians are a people of Turkic nationality who border on the east with the Guzes, a people of the same origin. (Abul Feda Description of the country of the Russians).
They are a big people and Turks. Their country borders with the Slavs. (Al Hanafi, Arab traveler of the 9th century)

Or the Scandinavians, who are indicated in a bunch of medieval sources, and where they are almost never classified as Slavs?

[aglet]

[/quote]what kind of Ros? The one that is called the Persians is the people of the Turkic group[quote]

whatever these storytellers wrote. So, should we believe everything? Abdul Feta, for example, wrote that Sukhumi is located on the shores of the Mediterranean Sea.

[romb]

And Uzbek Khan, who in the end created a whole branch of the Chingizids, who eventually gave their name to the whole group, and then to the people in Central Asia? It's all right?
By the way, if anything, for quite a long time the Kazakhs were called by outsiders as Cossack-Uzbeks or Uzbek-Cossacks.

[romb]

Administrators, it’s a shame, I understand. You should have restrained your inadequacies. Then we would communicate at the level of trust and mutual understanding.

[aglet]

Quote: romb

By the way, if anything, for quite a long time the Kazakhs were called by outsiders as Cossack-Uzbeks or Uzbek-Cossacks.

they were called Kyrgyz-Kaysaks, no need to invent great ancestors for themselves

[romb]

This is what they were called in your (sick) head. But the Kazakhs never called themselves that. On the other hand, the Kazakhs called you Uruses, so it somehow didn’t matter what you were or what you called the Kazakhs there. They have enough to live on this))

[aglet]

Quote: romb

It's in your head (sick) that's what they were called

I won’t argue about my head, maybe it really is sick. And your people were called Kyrgyz-Kaysaks in Russian historiography until 1936, when the Russians decided to call you differently. and what do you call yourself - I’m deeply violet

[Ivan Vasilievich]

I appeal to everyone who sees some mythical brothers

[Russian Crimea]

By constantly stepping on the same “rake,” we not only hurt ourselves, but also look stupid from the outside. A clear example is Dill, where, today, more than 70% of the population hate Russia and everything Russian, and from the screens of “our” Jewish TV we constantly hear: “Ukrainians are our brothers and we cannot abandon them in trouble!” I am from Crimea, now, Glory to Thee, Russian. Having spent 23 years in the occupation under the Khokhlo-Banderlogs, I learned the whole essence of this gathering of hereditary traitors, thieving, stupid and ready for any meanness, knowledgeable and independent horses! And such “brothers” surround us along the entire perimeter of the border. Fuck us “brothers” who will stab us in the back at any moment, removed purulent appendicitis will not grow back and that’s good news!!!

[Oleg Guschin]

Why these hysterical screams? Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan, like most countries in the world, which for some reason the blogger does not mention, did not support the Ukrainian resolution. And they did the right thing. It is not at all necessary to support Russia at this moment by voting “yes” on this issue. There are reasons for this. Russia is already capable of defending itself. By the way, she is preparing to file a lawsuit against this resolution in an international court, in which this issue will be considered in more detail and comprehensively, taking into account the study of all the circumstances regarding the provocation of Ukraine, some of which Ukraine has classified. It is very possible that this time the United States and its satellites will not be able to slander the world community.

[Tatar 174]

Why is this a monument to Nazarbayev? During his lifetime... Yes, and on this monument he looks somehow sick, as if he wants to get up, but cannot... It looks like a hidden mockery of him...

[maxmed]

Putin doesn’t have much choice where to run...

[bukhach]

Putin is a fighter, he doesn’t need to run anywhere, he’s in his own country and with his people. Jackals judge by themselves.

[Dirty Harry]

Taking into account the fact that before Kazakhstan joined Russia, the border between them was along the Irtysh and Yaik (Ural River) - Nurik’s behavior more than predictable! About the Kyrgyz, I can only quote a joke from the Ossetian KVN team: “In ancient Kazakhstan, weak and sick children were dumped in Kyrgyzstan.”

[Sofia]

What ancient Kazakhstan are we talking about? There were Turkic, Uyghur, and Great Kyrgyz Khaganates. Maybe I got it mixed up? Maybe all sorts of fumes after extraction from the earth's storehouse, or maybe hemp?

[aglet]

Quote: Sofia

Maybe all sorts of fumes after extraction from the earth's storehouse, or maybe hemp?

most likely hemp

[WOLF330]

Quote: Gritsa

Armenia and Belarus pleased the Uzbeks well done.
Taking into account the new leadership, Armenia not only pleased, but also most likely surprised

Do you really believe in the sincerity of those who pressed the buttons there? Everyone votes according to their interests.

[Babur_Imperat]

I’m glad that Uzbekistan supported Russia, and there were many unpleasant moments until today on the territory of the former USSR, but today the situation is too dangerous, the world is on the brink of war, but I think the Uzbeks are on the side of Russia, and the Russians are also mistaken, but all people are mistaken. The question is not about material wealth, but about reason, if anyone has a conscience, he knows that today the West is wrong and I say this loudly, they are all like jackals going against Russia alone, even knowing that Russia is wounded, everyone knows that this is not fair. I think Turkey supported the resolution; he cannot help but support it because the Turks live there, but he will not fight against Russia this time because the Turks are fair and honest. No matter what this territory is called, the Russian Turks are already strongly connected, so their security is common. I love all fair and honest people. If the Turks and Slavs unite again, they will win in this tough world. Peace and goodness to all, we will not allow war, if there is a war, it will be the last, everyone must clearly understand this. Allah tests us, everything returns to him.

[Dembel77]

Well, what can I say? Friend is known in trouble. And nothing else.

[Аман]

This seems to be a reputable site, but such minor grievances and insults against Kazakhs are serious. Do imperial ambitions haunt you or is it something else, personal (the house remained, sold cheaply to the damned Kyrgyz)? Why do you need Kazakh (precisely Kazakh) lands? There is no one to populate their lands and there are no prospects in the near future, but there... And they voted the way they should have. Nothing is done without consultation. When you needed to make friends with the Turks without losing face, Nazarbayev organized it. So, don't take our president's name in vain.

[aglet]

Quote: Aman

Why do you need Kazakh (precisely Kazakh) lands?

We don’t need your Kazakh lands. just on the quiet you took a huge bite of our land

[A.]

Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan are preparing to swear allegiance to the new master by licking the butt of the Americans, for thirty pieces of silver.

[Tomich3]

Who cares who “dumped” whom almost 30 years ago, now we need to unite before a common enemy, Russia will fall, and you, with all your “independence,” will fall.

[Henderson]

Hmmm. The list of Russia's remaining friends is impressive. Maybe Putin really is a foreign policy genius?

[Alexex]

Quote: Govorun

I don’t agree a little, but in a fraternal way, the Soviet Union “threw away” all its brothers and said, live as you want....

But the USSR didn’t cheat anyone of anything like that. It was the local elites who abandoned the USSR. I live in Moldova... here, as VVP said: “Political insanity.” There is a lot to be said... The President of Moldova does not decide anything... a doll. His only hope is for parliamentary elections....

[Shaman]

Friend is known in trouble.

[Nait]

Quote: Talgat 148

The Soviet people, and the Kazakhstanis work there! Right now I'm talking about the Kazakh people, it’s not customary to divide us into nations, we are a multinational friendly republic !!!! We have preserved the traditions of internationalism, because until the very last we tried to preserve the Union and the latter declared independence no longer .....

Saved, only we have numerous “taizhans” who rush at people with St. George’s medals
ribbons, and which openly call for equating the Russian language with a foreign language.
In general, yes, as long as there is still some unity, despite these types, renaming everything and everyone....

[Nait]

Quote: Lena363

So what about extrusion - a very big exaggeration.

But for some reason the second wave of immigration from the Republic of Kazakhstan is gaining momentum.
Not like in the 90s, when about 3 million left. people, but every year more and more come:
“The queue for the temporary residence permit through the Russian consulate in Almaty is packed until 2020, and it’s impossible to count how many people are going to the border crossing point region...”

[Nait]

Quote: Eula

And the Russian language is the language of interethnic communication (well, a very beautiful definition). I wonder what Russia is doing in light of this? Doesn't the stepmother care? Until what?

This is no longer the case.
The definition of Russian as an interethnic language has long been removed from
constitution, but it acts on a par with the state. language in state organs
By law, you must be served in the language in which you contact the government. offices.
This status, enshrined in the constitution, haunts local nationalists. patriots.
From time to time there are requests to remove the Russian language from the constitution altogether.

[Nait]

Quote: redcod

Arming us? No! Everything that comes from Russia is generously paid at world prices.

You apparently are not aware that the Republic of Kazakhstan purchases weapons at domestic Russian prices.
But in general, yes, the Republic of Kazakhstan does not beg from anyone and is completely independent financially.

[Nait]

Quote: Nait

Quote: redcod

Arming us? No! Everything that comes from Russia is generously paid at world prices.

You apparently are not aware that the Republic of Kazakhstan purchases weapons at domestic Russian prices.
But in general, yes, the Republic of Kazakhstan does not beg from anyone and is completely independent financially.

https://topwar.ru/73991-su-30-sm-pribyli-v-kazahstan.html

The contract for the supply of four Su-30 CMs to Kazakhstan was concluded last year at the international exhibition of weapons and military equipment KADEX-2014. The cost of one side is $ 50 million. However, in Kazakhstan they were sold at a substantial discount, and in addition, out of turn. These planes were supposed to enter the Russian Air Force in 2015, but more on that later.
...
- Why was chosen exactly Su-30 CM?

- We currently have an agreement with the Russian Federation on a unified air defense system. We are approaching the point of unifying the entire weapon system, both air defense and the aviation component. And this aircraft is the Su-30 SM, it has just now been adopted by the Russian Federation, and therefore it is considered one of the best fighter aircraft in its class.

- Sergey Dmitrievich, there is information in the network that these 4 sides were sold to Kazakhstan below their cost, and in addition, they were removed from planned deliveries to the Russian Air Force.

- I can say that both versions have a truthful basis. The Russian Ministry of Defense cooperated, and 4 vehicles planned for 2015 were shifted to 2016, so that 4 vehicles could be delivered to the Republic of Kazakhstan. Second question. Within the framework of the CSTO, weapons and military equipment are sold at prices that apply to the armed forces of the Russian Federation.