A strange statement by the Turkish Foreign Minister about the US contingent in Syria

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Foreign Minister Mevlüt авavuşoлуlu noted today with a somewhat strange statement. According to him, Donald Trump is going to withdraw the American military contingent from Syria. The strangeness is that this kind of information is voiced not by the representative of the American military or political elites, but by the Turkish Foreign Minister.

A strange statement by the Turkish Foreign Minister about the US contingent in Syria




Earlier, Trump did declare “a possible withdrawal of the American contingent from Syria”. However, some time after this, the US State Department issued a statement in which it announced that the withdrawal of US troops from the Syrian Arab Republic "may adversely affect the security of regional allies." These allies in the State Department called Israel, Jordan and Turkey, whose Foreign Minister today spoke about the American troops in the UAR.

With regard to the Turkish-American topic, it is worth noting another statement by Cavusoglu. According to him, Donald Trump informed Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan about the possible extradition of Fethullah Gulen. Recall that in Ankara it is this person living in the United States who is called the ideologue of the attempted coup d’état involving the Turkish military.

Against this background, it is worth noting that previously information about the readiness to “buy” the issue of Gulen appeared in the USA. For a positive decision on the extradition, as stated by Special Prosecutor Muller, Ankara promised to pay 15 million dollars. And supposedly the recipient of this amount could be Michael Flynn - then Trump's assistant.
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  1. +7
    16 December 2018 14: 55
    They will not take their military mattresses out of Syria; there is not one of their bases there. The mattresses stubbornly cling to Syria, although they lost this company. Until the Syrians themselves, after the war, say - "Yankees, go home", no one will take anything anywhere.
    1. +9
      16 December 2018 15: 02
      The Americans do not go anywhere at all .. Manas Kyrgyzstan, if I am not mistaken, the only base with which they left ..
      1. +4
        16 December 2018 15: 05
        Quote: Svarog
        Manas Kyrgyzstan, if not mistaken, the only base with which they left ..

        I am talking about this precedent. Nobody will push them out of there by force. But if the people after the war say that they are not happy with mattresses, they will have to collect manat and dump them.
        1. +6
          16 December 2018 18: 39
          Quote: NEXUS
          But if the people after the war say that they are not happy with mattresses, then they will have to collect manat and dump them.

          ========
          Not naive, Andrey !!! What kind of people? Kurds ?? So their "tribal godfathers" have long been on the "suction" of the Americans .... So, unfortunately, "the ball is tied up there" - that still !!! I feel that it will take a long time to wait until they forced will "dump" from Syria ....
        2. +1
          16 December 2018 21: 29
          The Japanese as a whole do not say that they were very pleased with the American presence, and? They sit evenly and do not shine.
      2. +6
        16 December 2018 16: 01
        Even from Vietnam they breathed
        1. +2
          16 December 2018 16: 08
          Almost at the same time!
      3. +10
        16 December 2018 16: 02
        Sorry Dear Svarog, But you forgot about Vietnam. The Yankees didn’t just leave, they were thrown out with all their servants! hi
        1. +1
          16 December 2018 16: 40
          Quote: Phil77
          Sorry Dear Svarog, But you forgot about Vietnam. The Yankees didn’t just leave, they were thrown out with all their servants! hi

          Yes you are right..
      4. +7
        16 December 2018 16: 23
        Quote: Svarog
        Americans do not go anywhere from anywhere ..

        About - "out of nowhere" I do not agree. Cuba, Vietnam, Laos, Korea ... The point here is not that they leave, do not leave, but that where they invaded, all state foundations collapsed.
        1. +1
          16 December 2018 16: 43
          Quote: ROSS 42
          Quote: Svarog
          Americans do not go anywhere from anywhere ..

          About - "out of nowhere" I do not agree. Cuba, Vietnam, Laos, Korea ... The point here is not that they leave, do not leave, but that where they invaded, all state foundations collapsed.

          Then there was the USSR and it was not just there, but a serious influence. Now there are practically no countries that can have a serious impact on the United States. And in Kyrgyzstan, Russia managed to do it .. For 200 ml. dollars, if I’m not mistaken, plus operating expenses ..
          1. +5
            16 December 2018 18: 23
            Quote: Svarog
            Now there are practically no countries that can have a serious impact on the United States.

            I do not agree. China may have an impact on the United States. If the Russian authorities in the 90s had not betrayed the socialist system for the sake of personal enrichment and continued the development of the country according to the socialist course, then in a quarter century (25 YEARS!!!) Already a lot of things could be done. And we sit, bite our elbows and remember how we gave youth, strength and health to the prosperity of the Fatherland, which was simply betrayed and finished off from tanks.
            There are countries whose economies also keep the United States at arm's length. At least India. Yes, the same DPRK does without the United States. The same Cuba did not fall apart. They live, though "not richly". Likewise, the president advises us not to accumulate. I feel that either a monetary reform has been prepared, or some kind of default is being made ... lol
        2. 0
          17 December 2018 02: 43
          In Cuba, Guantanamo, as well as in Korea, the 38th parallel is guarded so it was widely taken.
      5. 0
        16 December 2018 17: 33
        Quote: Svarog
        the only base with which they left ..

        Karimov sent them at one time and they went
      6. +1
        16 December 2018 21: 03
        Quote: Svarog
        The Americans do not go anywhere at all .. Manas Kyrgyzstan, if I am not mistaken, the only base with which they left ..

        And yet they leave. Besides Manas, they left Vietnam. Now it is becoming more and more obvious that they are going to ski in Afghanistan. Syria is of course of interest to them, but in connection with the defeat of their support in the person of ISIS, they still have hopes for the Kurds and the FSA. The former are hammered by Turkey and in this matter it is not going to collude with mattresses, and the latter (SSA) may find themselves on a reservation between Syria, Turkey and Iraq with access to Jordan (for now). The mattresses themselves have no reason to be involved in a ground operation in Syria, given the shameful situation in Afghanistan. Most likely, they will incline all participants to another truce and the division of powers between official Damascus and the opposition democratic forces in order to create a kind of "beyond the Efrat Syrian state" with an American presence in the image of Kosovo cut off from Serbia.
    2. +3
      16 December 2018 15: 03
      I think that so far the Americans and Kurds have a very strong, situational alliance. It does not seem that the Americans intend to destroy it.
      1. SSR
        +3
        16 December 2018 15: 25
        And who is situationally more important to Americans, Kurds or Turks?
        If they do not part with the Kurds, they will part with the Turks, it will be very difficult to sit on two chairs.
        1. +3
          16 December 2018 15: 30
          The Turks tease the Americans, they bother them, they want to deal with the Kurds once and for all.
        2. +2
          16 December 2018 15: 41
          Quote from S.S.R.
          it will be very difficult to sit on two chairs.

          The Syrian turmoil over the change of power in Syria did not go according to their scenario, and they can go to any extreme measures to continue this "war"! After all, there will be no SGA without WAR!
          1. SSR
            0
            16 December 2018 16: 27
            Quote: Tol100v
            they can go to any extreme measures to continue this "war"! After all, there will be no SGA without WAR!

            So they can splash absinthe on gunpowder, they can splash gasoline in Karabakh, Dahl's Komsomol member sleeps and sees the "Kremlin threat", Afghanistan, Turkmenistan, Iran, many places where it can blaze.
            1. +1
              16 December 2018 16: 32
              Quote from S.S.R.
              many places where it can burn.

              And Russia does nothing to prevent, only reacts after a fire.
              In Ukraine there was the first Independence Square Russia did not understand anything, as a result, they received the second Independence Square with the war and refugees.
              They didn’t solve the Ossetian conflict, they didn’t, they waited in 2008, when the war broke out and then reacted.
              For more than 24 years, Karabakh Russia, instead of resolving the conflict, arms the parties and adheres to the frozen status, the conflict is waiting for the United States or other processes to start the war and again when everything wakes up.
              With this approach to business, Americans do not need much zeal for a fire.
              1. SSR
                +1
                16 December 2018 21: 35
                Quote: Yeraz
                And Russia does nothing to prevent, only reacts after a fire.

                Quote: Yeraz
                Karabakh over 24 years Russia instead of deciding

                Dear, a bad world is better than war. From 24 years, at least 12, please cross out.
                Only after the EBN, 8 years were restored to the level of Georgia, another 6-7 years to the level of Ukraine and Syria.
                UN under the mattresses, Karabakh ..... under the mattresses for the UN, vote as in EdRo and Rada.
                The main thing is that they can set fire wherever they want, others where they can.
                hi
                1. +1
                  16 December 2018 22: 52
                  Quote from S.S.R.
                  Dear, a bad world is better than war.

                  not in this case. In the first war, the probability of Islamism was minimal, in this war this moment will rise in weight.
                  Quote from S.S.R.
                  Karabakh ..... under mattresses for the UN, they vote in the EdRo and Rada.

                  No, in the Security Council Russia can easily apply a veto. And there is even a resolution on Karabakh that is not being implemented.
                  And the UN vote, when all countries vote, but the decision is declarative in nature, in these votes Russia either abstained or was opposed. Therefore, the UN is by.
                  Quote from S.S.R.
                  The main thing is that they can set fire wherever they want, others where they can.

                  Well, conflicts must be resolved so that the United States cannot wherever it wants.
                  But Karabakh will bomb and this is Russia’s neighbor, not the United States. What’s more, the neighbor is its most turbulent region. It’s not the DPR and LPR, where the conflict will not spread to Rostov. Then the North Caucasus will blaze.
        3. +2
          16 December 2018 16: 18
          So this is their benefit! Tensions between the two peoples will * help * one or the other. Well, sometimes the State Department will express concern. Nothing new.
          1. +2
            16 December 2018 19: 19
            Quote: Phil77
            So this is their benefit! Tensions between the two peoples will * help * one or the other.

            In fact, this is Russia in the Karabakh conflict that sells to one side and gives weapons to the other side, the United States is not there. But the war will be, and the Americans will be appointed to blame))))
      2. +2
        16 December 2018 15: 35
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        I think that so far the Americans and Kurds have a very strong, situational alliance.

        well, not necessarily from all over Syria.
        Turkish media report that Americans are leaving 6 observation posts at the border.
        After all, before the operation in Afghanistan there was talk about Manbij, and not about the entire territory controlled by the Kurds. And the United States may well leave Manbij and there Turkey will carry out the operation and stop in front of the Efrat River.
      3. +1
        16 December 2018 15: 46
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        while the Americans and the Kurds have a very strong, situational alliance. It does not seem that the Americans intend to destroy it.

        Americans need Kurds only as pressure on Turkey. The Kurds have nothing the Americans need. And Turkey is: a member of NATO with control of the straits, and an air base with nuclear weapons, and just a buyer of weapons. And the Kurds? Who is it?
        1. 0
          16 December 2018 19: 52
          the "gun buyer" is not that important. arms exports to the world are a drop in the ocean. smartphones, washing machines and children's toys will plug all tanks, patriots and s400 in the belt.
          a new airport has just been opened in Istanbul, and therefore Turkish Airlines intends to increase its fleet by 200 units. and the Boeing will be very offended if it will be only airbuses.
      4. +1
        16 December 2018 15: 46
        It’s dangerous to flirt with the Kurds. They can instantly set fire to the entire Middle East in the war during the construction of the nation state.
        1. +2
          16 December 2018 16: 38
          Quote: Bearded
          They can instantly set fire to the entire Middle East in the war during the construction of the nation state.

          They made laugh)))
          They can’t do anything without strong countries. The United States will leave and the Kurds will be demolished at a time. They can’t do anything without support.
          The PAC has been operating for several decades, so the Islamic State destroyed them to pieces until the United States and its troops invaded the Kurdish regions. I’m not saying what the armed forces of those countries will do with them on the territory of which they will try to create a state alone. They need the United States, and not vice versa. Therefore, it is not their stupidity or naivety that they close their eyes when the United States throws them periodically, but simply the United States can give at least some minimum of this independence. Therefore, they did not go against it when the United States did not made for the defense of Kirkuk, did not intervene in Afrin. They will also accept the US withdrawal from Manbij.
          1. 0
            16 December 2018 18: 21
            1. Can I give you more details on how DAES distributed Kurdish, Arab or Assyrian self-defense units? And then everyone is not in the know. 2. The American presence in Afrin. Also in more detail.
            Thank you.
            1. +1
              16 December 2018 18: 35
              Quote: hevale
              Could you give more details on how DAES spread Kurdish, Arab or Assyrian self-defense units?

              You forgot about whining and shouting about the destruction in Kobani ?? Mass protests in Turkey, the crisis in Turkey, when Erdogan allowed the Peshmerga detachment to go through Kobani through Turkey ?? .Rakka in the hands of DAESH and also progress, only after the intervention of US troops.
              Quote: hevale
              American presence in Afrin

              It’s not the American presence in Afghanistan, but its absence that the United States could not stop Turkey. We haven’t done anything. And we know when the United States needs to achieve something, it fully incorporates all the levers. And in Afghanistan, neither diplomatic pressure, neither economic, nor even an attempt to establish a no-fly zone, at least, because the Turkish Air Force, unlike the Shield of Euphrates, very often used F-16s and UAVs in the Olive branch.


              Here is the leader of the rallies, the head of the Kurdish party in Turkey, who is now asking in prison, and if DAES attacked a city in Azerbaijan and the Turkish people approached the border to help their Türk brothers, they would disperse their power with truncheons and tear gases, how to disperse the Kurds in Turkey.
              1. -1
                16 December 2018 19: 08
                . Forgot about the nagging and screaming about the destruction in Kobani?

                This is when Erdogan closed the border for volunteers, but missed DAESH?

                when Erdogan allowed the Peshmerga detachment through Turkey to go to Kobani ??
                Not 200 peshmerga ...... This is ...... UUUUUU. Yes?

                Russian generals officially declared Afrin their zone of responsibility. Russian generals publicly, on camera, guaranteed security to the inhabitants of Afrin. Russian generals signed the Military Cooperation Agreement with SDF Afrin. And where are the Americans?
                1. +1
                  16 December 2018 19: 17
                  Quote: hevale
                  And where are the Americans?

                  since the YPG is both the YPG and on the other side of the YPG. Afrinsky’s money for arms supplies, what did the Russian generals get ?? No. And the Americans could stop Turkey if they wanted. It’s just that the price and the result were high.
                  For Russia, at minimal cost, the result could be high, but Afrin Kurds are constantly listening to Bagdasarov and Turkey YPG showed that they are no one without Uncle Sam behind.
                  1. 0
                    16 December 2018 19: 29
                    Well, thanks for the jokes. You joked, I laughed ........ Do you want to tell another joke?
                    1. +1
                      16 December 2018 19: 40
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                      Quote: hevale
                      Do you want to tell another joke?

                      No, these guys are better at telling a joke. Soon we will all see how YPG "will die with laughter" They have already given 2 concerts, the third in Manbij will be wink

                      1. +1
                        16 December 2018 20: 56
                        good Likely from your joke this heval will also throw you away from laughter ...)
                      2. -1
                        17 December 2018 05: 04
                        And what kind of guys are these?
                  2. +1
                    16 December 2018 19: 42
                    GosPodina hevale when there are no normal arguments, then immediately hit on the topic of jokes lol
      5. +3
        16 December 2018 16: 26
        Quote: Aron Zaavi

        I think that so far the Americans and Kurds have a very strong, situational alliance.

        I will tell you more - the country whose flag you hung earlier has the same strong situational, budget-friendly union. They, like you, friendship is fastened with thick bundles of dollar bills ... Yes
      6. +2
        16 December 2018 16: 47
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        ... the Americans and the Kurds have a very strong, situational alliance.

        hi Aron.
        If the dilemma arises sharply - the Kurds or Turkey, p ... wasps immediately betray the Kurds no matter how much they succeed. Their experience in this part surpasses even the Britons. By the way, Ankara has already warned the Americans that it will smash the Kurds east of the Euphrates, regardless of whether there are US coalition forces there (this was on Friday). Let’s see if Erdogan has enough determination to do this or just blah blah.
    3. +2
      16 December 2018 16: 13
      even though they lost this company

      Yah? I love people who are "confident" ... Well, firstly, the Americans, like the Israeli lobby in the United States, need to destabilize the SAR for as long as possible. The question is, did they succeed? 2-Americans, like the Israelis, need a Kurdish enclave in the SAR and Iraq under US patronage. Did they succeed or not? 3-The United States needs Russia to be stuck in the SAR for as long as possible, spending its resources on war there and on restoring the destroyed, spending as much money and its resources there. Was it successful or not? Fourthly, to keep the CIA field for "chemical" and other provocations to keep Russia in suspense and divert its attention from other problems. Was it successful or not? Fifthly, to put pressure on the world community, about "Basar must leave and freedom for democratic elections in the SAR." Was it successful or not? Sixth, splitting the SAR into several enclaves that are at war with each other (for the sake of the Jews) is in the future, I think they will succeed in doing this.
      1. +3
        16 December 2018 16: 17
        Quote: Snail N9
        Yah? I love "confident" people ..

        Yah? I love people who say not everything, but only in places.
        ISIS whose project does not tell? And where is it now? Assad thrown off? Now you are pushing me here about enclaves. And you are modestly keeping quiet about the original goal.
        BV destabilization was before Syria. But the United States failed to shatter all this further.
        They lost this company clean. So it’s not necessary, the respected owl to put on the globe, she already has big eyes.
        1. -1
          16 December 2018 16: 19
          Naive, stupid .... not further in the text .... ISIS-will never be able to destroy. Why? Yes, because actually, you need to know what ISIS is, and why it is so attractive ... and for ordinary people wink And besides, the "civilized community" that put "big and fat" on ordinary people, will itself generate those who will strive for ISIS ... Although to whom am I telling this? -Apologist Kisel-Soloviev TV ...
          1. +3
            16 December 2018 16: 22
            Quote: Snail N9
            Naive, silly .... not further in the text ....

            Uti ways. wassat Just a storehouse of world wisdom. Go on, weirdo. wassat
            Quote: Snail N9
            ISIS-will never be able to destroy.

            In a single country it will even succeed. Again, the substitution of concepts. Well, continue to amuse people with their cunning. It's even funny.
            1. -1
              16 December 2018 16: 34
              Do not ... do not be angry .... I, in principle, do not care, I was just always amused by "patriots" who will soon walk without pants and "this one" will eat up without salt, but then ... already ,. "won all" ... and "won" in the future ... wink hi
              1. +3
                16 December 2018 16: 55
                Quote: Snail N9
                I was just always amused by "patriots" who will soon walk without pants

                I don’t know what kind of patriots you are talking about without pants, but I personally work on my own, everything is good with pants. My friends, too, do not live in poverty, and at the same time they don’t love their Motherland at all.
                About the pants and the last horseradish without salt, where did you pick it out? You see a lot of misfortunes without underpants in the Russian Federation? I am about working people.
                1. -2
                  16 December 2018 17: 32
                  Yes, right today, one of them was yelling at me, like, why did I put my "Qashqai" in place of his "Grants", near the house, he kind of cleared this place of snow and ice ... called on Putin and Stalin on my head. ... I sent him to hell, said that firstly, his weight category does not allow yelling, and secondly, it is necessary to "sign" the place (and let the paper show that this is "his place"), there is no signature - he goes to .... (well, you know where) ....
  2. -4
    16 December 2018 14: 59
    Trump bought Erdogan
  3. +1
    16 December 2018 15: 07
    Ankara promised to pay $ 15 million for a positive decision on extradition, according to special prosecutor Mueller
    Kind of weird. Special Prosecutor Mueller is investigating RUSSIAN interference in the US elections, but everything is not distracted by something, then the "Ukrainian trace" will come out, then now the "Turkish" one ...
    1. 0
      17 December 2018 12: 50
      It’s like in a saying: a forest is cut - wood chips fly wink
  4. 0
    16 December 2018 15: 32
    Until Syria is completely cut, nobody will go anywhere, neither we, nor Americans, nor Kurds, Assad, nor Turks. Nobody and nowhere.
    1. +1
      16 December 2018 16: 36
      Quote: irazum

      Until Syria is completely cut, nobody will go anywhere, neither we, nor the Americans, nor ...

      I don’t know about others, but the Americans will not leave Syria until the Pentagon ignores the appeals of the Russian Defense Ministry and Assad does not have a strong army.
  5. +2
    16 December 2018 15: 41
    The situation is complicated. US teeth will cling to Syria, definitely.
    They can get hold of there "officially", they can only at the "invitation" of the Kurds, to whom they promise full "sovereignty", which is completely contrary to Turkey's interests. It turns out that Turkey is a NATO member and becomes a thorn in the US's eye in its confrontation with Russia in Syria. Kurds do not trust the United States, remembering how they threw them in Iraq. In addition, they got confused in this tangle: Israel, Iran, SA. This "tangle" has no peaceful solution. Desires are too contradictory. This will be a long-term problem in the 21st century.
    1. +3
      16 December 2018 16: 30
      Quote: askort154
      They can only catch on there "officially" by the "invitation" of the Kurds, to whom they promise full "sovereignty"

      Interesting. Can Russia gain a foothold at the invitation of the DPR, LPR? Do Kurds have autonomy? With the same success, Americans (legally) can be invited "to visit" (not all, of course), for example, the Magadan Region ... lol
      1. 0
        16 December 2018 17: 27
        "With the same success the Americans (legally) can be invited" to visit "(not all, of course), for example, the Magadan region." Therefore, in no case it is worth supporting separatism in different countries, since on your territory you can face the same phenomenon. Today, in the world, real chaos and anarchy, international laws, the foundations of the world created after 1945 are reduced to almost zero, and in this a huge share of the blame for separatism and support for this phenomenon on the part of the big powers.
  6. +2
    16 December 2018 17: 22
    in the US, information appeared about the readiness to "buy" the issuance of Gulen. Ankara promised to pay 15 million dollars for a positive decision on extradition, according to Special Prosecutor Mueller

    Maybe we’ll throw off all the people and pay for them to permanently take Chubais and his accomplices from us? So that their spirit was not in Russia!
  7. 0
    16 December 2018 17: 34
    Quote: ROSS 42
    Americans (legally) can be invited "to visit" (not all, of course), for example, the Magadan region ...

    tempting ... tempting ...
    Our dear government will instantly migrate to Magadan? Away from their retirees. There will be a new capital of Russia - Maskvagadan ... and there is a port. There will be a historic moment - they cut a new window in e ... or e ...
  8. +1
    16 December 2018 18: 35
    The Turks began to play dangerous games with the United States. Anyway, the Americans will win, they have more manipulation experience, they still counted the Turks ...............
    1. +1
      16 December 2018 20: 05
      Turks are more intelligent than you can imagine. In Russia they are known only in tourism and tomatoes, as local TV advertised. In fact, Turkey is a deep country, more experienced I would say. One fact is that around 1939-1945 everything burned, Turkey, being geographically in the center of this scuffle, managed to be untouched. It can be explained and builds versions, why this way and that, etc. But this is a fact. The USA has more money and military force, but from experience they are with the Turks not a couple. And Turkey does not look within its borders. Turkey, this is partly the Balkans, partly North Africa, partly India, Pakistan, Iran Indonesia and the big Turkic world and not only. There are a lot of countries supporting Turkey, more than a billion people. About this knows. Breaking with the Turks in the future for the United States is a huge loss, in the direct and indirect sense.
      1. 0
        17 December 2018 19: 57
        Quote: Oquzyurd
        Turks are more intelligent than you imagine. In Russia they are known only in tourism and tomatoes, as the local TV advertised. In fact, Turkey is a deep country, more experienced I would say

        And we will see it soon, I think it’s enough for a couple of years to understand how the Turks will behave in Syria. How the games around the Kurds will end. Information comes every day, but so far it’s not clear that the Turks are winning, so far they are plunged into a protracted conflict with the Kurds, Yes, and in Syria it is necessary to solve something. You can’t see a way out of the Syrian problem with a big plus, and a couple of serious minuses have already surfaced
  9. +1
    17 December 2018 02: 26
    According to him, Donald Trump informed Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan about the possible extradition of Fethullah Gulen.

    ... the carrot in front of the nose of the Turks continues to hang .. laughing
  10. 0
    17 December 2018 14: 10
    All these oddities suggest that Turkey, having been a little stranded, has restored dialogue with the United States, Turkey is actually more profitable with them than with Russia, this is obvious.
    Russia has nowhere to go, the pipe was pushed onto the Turkish coast, now, holding the Turkish hand tightly on this pipe, the mattresses can turn the beatsals well, especially given the interruption of gas supply through the ruin and the active attempts to stop the construction of SEG-2.
    In a word, I hope, following the results of such "news", the Russian Foreign Ministry and the "corresponding" services have already taken the necessary positions, different from the traditional positions of late - the position of a late observer?