Why is the Russian registration of the Crimea so annoying our “western partners”?

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Our “Western partners”, as the President of the country ironically calls them, the modern fate of the Russian Crimea still gives no rest. In neighboring Norway, because of the Russian registration of the Black Sea Peninsula, a real discussion ensued, in which some politicians advocate anti-Russian sanctions, while others advocate the common sense and legitimacy of the Crimean referendum.

On the one hand, the head of the Norwegian parliamentary foreign policy and defense committee Anniken Huitfeldt (Anniken Huitfeldt) is in favor of strengthening sanctions against Russia, while referring to Moscow’s violations of international law in the process of annexing Crimea to the Russian Federation. On the other hand, one of the former vice-presidents of the Norwegian parliament, Carl Hagen (Carl Hagen), said that it would be better for NATO to stay away from the Crimea and from the Russian borders.





Speaking about the Crimean fate of recent years, the Norwegian edition of Nettavisen refers to the latest stories peninsula. Strictly speaking, Nettavisen writes, Crimea was part of the RSFSR until 1954, when Nikita Khrushchev, the country's main communist, presented it to the Ukrainian SSR. Ukraine at that time was not a “independent” country, but only one of the union republics of a single state - the Soviet Union. In addition, we must not forget that Nikita Sergeevich himself grew up on the fertile lands of the future “Square”, therefore he had the most tender feelings for this republic.

After the collapse of the USSR, Ukraine became a truly independent state, which set the course for integration with Europe. However, not all residents of the country called for rapprochement with the European Union to the detriment of relations with the fraternal people of the Russian Federation. In the Donbas and in the Crimea, there is about 80% of the Russian-speaking population that wanted to remain in Russia.

Moreover, the leadership of the North Atlantic Alliance broke a promise not to expand to the east and came very close to the borders of Russia on the part of the Baltic states, Poland and Romania. It is clear that Russia did not like the desire of the United States and NATO to invade it, so to speak, to the backyard. When the Soviet Union tried to do something similar in Cuba in the 60s, the Caribbean crisis erupted, almost turning into a full-scale nuclear war. Many independent military experts believe that this behavior of NATO military forces in Eastern Europe is not at all like de-escalation. And in Moscow they regard it in the same way.

Re-emphasizing the fact that Huitfeldt refers to violations of international law, advocating the extension of anti-Russian sanctions, the journalist Nettavisen says that this is at least unfair. Because the United States, a key ally of Norway, after World War II, did nothing but constantly violate international law in various parts of the world. And in general, according to the conviction of the Norwegian publication, in Washington they believe that the White House is above international law, since it comes to the geopolitical interests of the nation.

Therefore, exaggerating questions about sanctions against the Russian Federation and the Russian registration of the Crimea, neither the NATO military, nor the Pentagon generals, nor the European officials have any moral right to refer to international law. Moreover, the Norwegian journalist reminds us that during the referendum in Crimea, not a single shot was fired and not a single resident of the peninsula was killed. While this situation with the transfer of power with the direct participation of American hawks in Vietnam or Chile was radically different.

“NATO should stay away!” Nettavisen reasonably sums it up.
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  1. +16
    14 December 2018 05: 12
    In neighboring Norway, a real discussion unfolded due to the Russian residence of the Black Sea Peninsula

    Which one them to it a business ? When Norway seceded from the Swedish kingdom, no one reproached them for thereby redrawing the map of Sweden, and no one imposed sanctions against them.
    So why are Norwegians unhappy that Crimea wanted to secede from Ukraine?
    1. +9
      14 December 2018 05: 18
      It would be better for them all to listen to the clever sayings of Karl Hagen and not to poke their long nose where they should not. The registration of the Crimea will always be only Russian.
      1. -1
        14 December 2018 05: 38
        I ask you to excuse me, but what about the blue shoulder straps?
        1. +2
          14 December 2018 08: 22
          In your profile, click on the epaulet and there you will see everything.
          1. +4
            14 December 2018 09: 00
            Quote: Comrade
            So why are Norwegians unhappy that Crimea wanted to secede from Ukraine?

            Because they recognize that Ukraine does not exist in historical terms. These are Russian lands. And the fact that the Russian people (residents of the Crimea) decided to live together infuriates Europeans. Contrary to the decision of Yeltsin and other Anglo-Saxon henchmen.

            They know this and scream that there is urine. They are afraid that Ukraine (by the decision of the majority of Russians living there) will again become only the name of a Russian area, and not a "country."
    2. +14
      14 December 2018 05: 19
      It would be better for NATO to stay away from the Crimea and the Russian borders.
      - This slogan needs to be hung in all NATO premises!
    3. +2
      14 December 2018 13: 01
      Trite - the complexes of a small country that declares itself a subject of politics ... whereas it has always been and will be an object ... bully Remember how in 2MB their landings were either Germans, then the British, then ours landed? crying And now shit is running away after the NATO soldiers during the exercises and only grumble ... naturally after that we need to restore our self-esteem and challenge Crimea from Russia bully
      1. 0
        16 December 2018 17: 45
        Norway has many reasons for self-esteem, it is worth taking a look at the level of well-being of Norwegians. And what about today's Russia?
        1. 0
          17 December 2018 17: 29
          1) The level of well-being of Norway is largely determined by hydrocarbons, although they are well done in many industries ...: bully:
          2) But in Russia it’s different, but in general the people live better than ever, everything is known in comparison ... bully
    4. 0
      15 December 2018 14: 12
      So why are Norwegians unhappy that Crimea wanted to secede from Ukraine?
      rhetorical question laughing
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  3. +6
    14 December 2018 05: 46
    The Russian Federation, as the legal successor of the USSR, should recognize the accession of Crimea to the Ukrainian SSR as illegitimate, and its return in the referendum process is only confirmation of the transition of Crimea to the Russian Federation Legitimate.
    1. +9
      14 December 2018 11: 09
      Quote: Conductor
      The Russian Federation, as the legal successor of the USSR, should recognize the accession of Crimea to the Ukrainian SSR as illegitimate, and its return in the referendum process is only confirmation of the transition of Crimea to the Russian Federation Legitimate.

      one of the components of the Big Agreement between the Russian Federation and Ukraine, which it tore up, was the mutual recognition of existing borders. Ukriana does not recognize our borders, who prevents us from not recognizing it?
      1. -2
        16 December 2018 19: 18
        Ukriana does not recognize our borders, who prevents us from not recognizing it?

        Substitute concepts. The referendum on all international laws was to be held by Ukraine, not Russia. That is, based on the agreements of the central government and the region.

        Russia has violated.

        Helsinki agreements on the inviolability of post-war borders.

        The Budapest Agreement, in which Russia pledged to recognize the territorial integrity of Ukraine and its borders, in exchange for the export of Ukrainian nuclear weapons to the Russian Federation.

        2003 treaty between Russia and Ukraine on the recognition of the borders of Soviet markings.

        And the referendum has no international force, as it was carried out with bayonets. First, a referendum was needed, and then the deployment of troops, and not vice versa.
        1. 0
          11 January 2019 05: 03
          Tarkhan! There is no need to show your complete illiteracy ... First of all, Khrushchev violated all the laws of the USSR and handed over the Crimea at his discretion, like a "bag of potatoes" to Ukraine! And Ukraine "forgot" to return Crimea with the artificial "collapse" of the USSR. And you shouldn't lie about the Budapest agreement, to put it mildly - it has not been ratified by many of the parties to the agreement ... The same thing you write deliberately about the Helsinki agreements - and here is Ukraine, which is currently part of the republic! "Do not deliberately confuse the gift of God with an egg ..." And about a referendum that has no international force - nonsense, violates international law? - the example of Kosovo ... And the referendum was held not with bayonets, but by the declaration of the inhabitants of Crimea after the coup and the overthrow of the legitimate government in Ukraine! And all your fabrications are just your hypertrophied opinion as a result of the propaganda of the neo-fascist authorities at the moment in Ukraine and no more ...
  4. +2
    14 December 2018 06: 12
    The borders of NATO expansion have narrowed a bit, which is why it is annoying ..
  5. +3
    14 December 2018 06: 55
    Who has brains, recalls the fate of all those who opened their mouths to Russia and tried to bite!
    Well, if there is no brain, then why would he need teeth? Correct, as always!
  6. +1
    14 December 2018 06: 59
    if the Vedmedev didn’t give Svalbard to Norway, they would now totally bark at Russia. and the Vedmedev will be the second Khrushchev in terms of squandering Russian lands.
    1. +3
      14 December 2018 07: 22
      Khorkov he and not Medvedev
  7. +3
    14 December 2018 07: 35
    Crimea was part of the USSR until 1954

    This is a missprint? Or is it really written like that?
    Crimea was part of the RSFSR, which, like the Ukrainian SSR and the remaining 13 republics, were part of the USSR.
    1. +3
      14 December 2018 08: 50
      In 1954, there were 16 rather than 14 union republics in the USSR.
      1. +1
        15 December 2018 16: 03
        Borisovich! And who was 16? I didn’t find the information.
        1. +3
          15 December 2018 16: 16
          Duc Karelo - Finnish Soviet Socialist Republic.
          From 1940 to 1956 The capital is Petrozavodsk ..
          1. +1
            15 December 2018 16: 17
            Wow! I live almost all my life in St. Petersburg, but I haven’t heard of this. Thank you for expanding the horizon of knowledge!
  8. +8
    14 December 2018 07: 47
    For some reason, the current politician came out for the sanctions, and the retiree stood for "common sense". This is always the case, therefore, the reasoning on the topic of Europe's insight regarding Ukraine is worthless, and there is no need to do this.
    1. 0
      15 December 2018 16: 20
      This one, though retired, received his sight, but some American flyers died without being smarter.
    2. 0
      15 December 2018 21: 37
      If only he was the only one. They are both retiring, they are being replaced. Which is already on account of the "pensioner" suddenly gains a sober mind and speaks of common sense. Exceptions like Biden only prove the rule.
  9. 0
    14 December 2018 08: 28
    They can discuss whatever they like at home. It will all the same as Germany will say. And even the EU does not have a decree with its decisions. And the opinion of Norway and the like, who cares about the chatter of European pique vests.
  10. +2
    14 December 2018 08: 44
    Crimea is a button on the chair of the West, on which they are forced to sit down every day.
    And why am I so pleased with this ?!
  11. BAI
    +4
    14 December 2018 08: 58
    Crimea was part of the USSR until 1954,

    Crimea was part of the USSR even after 1954.
    1. +6
      14 December 2018 12: 38
      And the cause of the Caribbean crisis is American rockets in Turkey. And only then our answer in Cuba. Poke their faces in their litter, and not justify themselves. After Yugoslavia, everyone needs to sniff silently.
    2. +3
      14 December 2018 14: 51
      Crimea was not part of the USSR, but part of the RSFSR, Crimea was not a Union Republic, therefore it cannot be said that it was part of the USSR only if it was part of the RSFSR.
    3. 0
      15 December 2018 15: 57
      With your permission, BAI, add: as part of the RSFSR.
  12. +1
    14 December 2018 08: 59
    They are unhappy that the unipolar world is ending, but already over. It was a very tempting idea - to merge the army to a minimum, to give the police functions to the United States and enjoy. It didn’t work out. It didn’t work at all, they strangle us - where to go to China? Nevertheless, the revival of Russia's power to Europeans is throat-wide. Fear. Mostly they are afraid that the revived Russia will hold them accountable for what they have done in 90. And this is really terrible fear). There is something to be afraid of.
    Well, they put the sticks in the wheels to the best of mind and skill ...
  13. +6
    14 December 2018 09: 12
    Regarding the Crimea and the proposal to stay away, the Norwegian is absolutely right. Of course, it’s also true that
    The White House is above international law, as long as it comes to the geopolitical interests of the nation.
    The Americans do not hide this, but rather boast about it. If the president allows himself to call the American nation (I know the Russians, the British, the Germans, the French, etc., but I don’t know such a nation. If only to define it as an attitude towards a particular state?) “Exclusive,” then what else to talk about.
  14. +3
    14 December 2018 10: 30
    Correctly Karl Hagen says: stay away, I would add: you will be more whole.
  15. -2
    14 December 2018 12: 02
    Nettavisen journalist says this is at least unfair.

    well, if the journalist of this netavizen himself said such a thing, then everyone should prostrate themselves and shut up. wink
  16. +2
    14 December 2018 12: 42
    ... this once again confirms that Russia has no friends except the army and navy
  17. +6
    14 December 2018 14: 59
    The absorption of the independent state of the GDR in a united Germany is the first flagrant violation of international law after the Second World War.
  18. +1
    14 December 2018 15: 34
    Once again we are convinced that in the West smart politicians are only former.
  19. +1
    14 December 2018 18: 12
    "The West" did not like, does not like at the present time and will not like everything that does not coincide with the interests of one or several Western countries. And this applies not only to Russia.
  20. +4
    14 December 2018 19: 53
    the main thing that they don’t say later is a fool with them, the Kuril Islands and Kaliningrad
    The main thing is that our Crimea bully
    1. 0
      11 January 2019 05: 07
      Black Joe! Do not walk heresy, otherwise the Germans, the Japanese will leave you without pants ... and there will be a revision of the results of the Second World War and the revival of fascism!
  21. +1
    15 December 2018 11: 55
    Khrushchev just can't "grow up" in Ukraine (then in Ukraine) - he was born on the territory of the modern Russian Federation, he grew up there (Kursk province) until the age of 14, then worked for several years near Yuzovka, then the front, then returned, then wandered around the territory of modern RF, and only then worked on the party line in the Ukrainian SSR. There can be no talk of any "pro-Ukrainian". He is a party member. Only the party line.
    And Crimea was transferred solely because of the economy. This is a peninsula and communication through the Ukrainian SSR. Water and stuff, transport and the main flows of people. In the USSR, territories were transferred on the basis of economic needs but clothed in ideological ones. But this is a transfer from one pocket to another. The USSR did not change from this.
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  23. 0
    17 December 2018 07: 46
    Crimea was and will be Russia. Our great-grandfathers and grandfathers conquered and defended the Crimea and not Ukraine. Her then, as now, as a state was not. So let them rage in NATO and the USA but their ships should not stand at the piers in Sevastopol.
  24. 0
    17 December 2018 23: 37
    Simply, the West needs to be given time to get used to the idea. With the legitimacy of Crimea - everything is fine, everyone understands this and knows. Just for a look, the show-offs are driven and crushed by sanctions. Soon they will get tired of it; sanctions for Russia are not effective.