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President of Ukraine put forward demands to Russia

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Petro Poroshenko continues to give interviews to major Western media, which, as already noted, can be regarded as an attempt by the West to shield the pocket authorities of Ukraine in a situation with violation of the state border of Russia. Now the Ukrainian president gave an interview to the French TV channel France24. In this interview, Poroshenko once again "appealed" to the so-called international community, saying that it should contribute to "security in the Azov-Black Sea region."


President of Ukraine put forward demands to Russia


In addition, Poroshenko put forward a number of requirements to Russia. According to him, Russia "must immediately open the Kerch Strait", "withdraw the troops from the border with Ukraine," as well as "withdraw all warships from the waters of the Sea of ​​Azov."

Poroshenko also said that representatives of the Ukrainian delegation will raise all these issues during the meeting "in the Norman format."

Earlier, the President of Turkey called on the meeting of the “Norman Group”, saying that the leaders of Russia, Ukraine, France and Germany should discuss issues of de-escalation in the Kerch Strait area.

Recall that the Ukrainian military boats and a tug committed an armed violation of the maritime borders of Russia, and in the place where the water area was Russian before reunification with the Crimea. The provocation to the Ukrainian side failed as a result - the boats and the tug were detained by Russian border guards, the sailors of the Navy of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the SBU officers on board these vessels testify. The court arrested them for the month of 2 - during the investigation.
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  1. bubalik
    bubalik 2 December 2018 15: 49
    +12
    According to him, Russia "must immediately open up the Kerch Strait", "withdraw troops from the border with Ukraine", and also "withdraw all warships from the Sea of ​​Azov".

    ,, well, insolent! negative angry
    1. Hire
      Hire 2 December 2018 15: 51
      +60
      Russia "must immediately open the Kerch Strait", "withdraw troops from the border with Ukraine", and also "withdraw all warships from the waters of the Sea of ​​Azov.


      laughing And also to paint the Crimean bridge in yellow-black color. No, but what? Demand, so demand!
      1. 210ox
        210ox 2 December 2018 15: 56
        +37
        He has not yet demanded beer sludge ..
        1. Baloo
          Baloo 2 December 2018 16: 57
          +8
          Quote: 210ox


          Quote: 210ox
          He has not yet demanded beer sludge ..

          A pochmu is silently thigh and tamashonka, do they care? belay
          1. vadson
            vadson 2 December 2018 17: 08
            +13
            their beer settled
            1. krot
              krot 2 December 2018 17: 43
              +13
              Poroshenko put forward a number of requirements to Russia. According to him, Russia “must immediately open the Kerch Strait”, “withdraw troops from the border with Ukraine”, and also “withdraw all warships from the Sea of ​​Azov”

              But the fact that...? interesting ...))) They declare war on us?))
              1. 210ox
                210ox 2 December 2018 17: 52
                +2
                Here it is impossible to put a video ... kf. "And in the morning they woke up." Garmash- "If only to live until bright days ..."
                1. Grits
                  Grits 2 December 2018 19: 56
                  0
                  I can’t put the video here.
                  Everything is good on this site. Besides the fact that not only the video is not put here, but to insert a picture, you need to be a Russian hacker.
                  1. Alexander Sviridov
                    Alexander Sviridov 3 December 2018 03: 17
                    +9
                    The details of the capture of the Ukrainian Navy ship "Berdyansk" by the special forces of the GRU of the RF Armed Forces have become known. For more than 20 hours, successive groups of special forces of Russia shouted to the Ukrainian sailors in the loudspeaker a speech: "He who does not jump is a Muscovite!" After 20 hours, the exhausted Ukrainian sailors and officers were loaded onto boats and sent to a hospital in Kerch.
                    1. Metallurg_2
                      Metallurg_2 3 December 2018 07: 24
                      0
                      An old joke: it was told in relation to the capture of Ukrainian ships in the Sevastopol raid.
              2. Baloo
                Baloo 2 December 2018 17: 53
                +5
                Quote: krot
                Poroshenko put forward a number of requirements to Russia. According to him, Russia “must immediately open the Kerch Strait”, “withdraw troops from the border with Ukraine”, and also “withdraw all warships from the Sea of ​​Azov”

                But the fact that...? interesting ...))) They declare war on us?))

                No, Kiev experts will cry and suffer again on our television shows.
                1. Metallurg_2
                  Metallurg_2 3 December 2018 07: 25
                  +2
                  Kiev experts will cry and suffer again on our TV shows

                  By the way, these iksperdy get money in rubles and rather big. And then we wonder why it is necessary to raise the retirement age.
              3. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 2 December 2018 18: 47
                +4
                Quote: krot
                Will they declare war on us?))

                will introduce a special martial law
                1. Alexander Sviridov
                  Alexander Sviridov 3 December 2018 03: 13
                  +5
                  Both the use of civilian corridors by military aircraft and by military vessels of common straits without notifying the parties controlling and synchronizing ship passages is a violation of safe navigation rules.
                  It is necessary not only to dismantle the offending ships, but also to prohibit Ukraine from entering any vessels until it convinces the UN that it is familiar with the Convention on the Law of the Sea (Articles 22-25)
              4. tolmachiev51
                tolmachiev51 3 December 2018 03: 23
                0
                They "declared" themselves !!! - there is no war, but martial law was introduced! Absurd!.
                1. Metallurg_2
                  Metallurg_2 3 December 2018 07: 26
                  0
                  Why absurd? Trotsky also blurted out in 1917: "We are stopping the war, we are disbanding the army, but we are not signing peace."
              5. The comment was deleted.
              6. Alexander Bushuev
                Alexander Bushuev 3 December 2018 09: 33
                +1
                They have been "fighting" for the fifth year already, they are wiped out and heroes, blin ...
          2. 210ox
            210ox 2 December 2018 17: 50
            +1
            Why are they silent? So, after all, European democracy however. The administrative resource is shut up.
          3. arhPavel
            arhPavel 4 December 2018 13: 46
            +1
            A pochmu is silently thigh and tamashonka, do they care? belay



            Here the elections will begin, and they will say. And now it’s impossible, the owner does not order.
        2. mult-65
          mult-65 2 December 2018 19: 22
          +1
          Foam ... Demand in MosCelProm stores !!! :-)
      2. the most important
        the most important 2 December 2018 15: 58
        +8
        Quote: Hire

        Russia "must immediately open the Kerch Strait", "withdraw troops from the border with Ukraine", and also "withdraw all warships from the waters of the Sea of ​​Azov.


        And also to paint the Crimean bridge in yellow-black color. No, but what? Demand, so demand!

        And here’s the counter-requirement - BIT NECESSARY, petro. And just as you pour vodka in the womb, so courage and rushing from all the cracks ...
        1. Machito
          Machito 2 December 2018 16: 06
          +14
          Poroshenko can apply to his wife with his requirements. He wants free navigation in Russian territorial waters, and Russia wants free gas transit to Europe, the arrest of the Nazis in Ukraine and the return of Alaska to their native harbor.
          Wishlist he did not grow.
          1. Strashila
            Strashila 2 December 2018 16: 16
            +14
            "the return of Alaska to the Native Harbor.", California and Hawaii, everything else that was called Russian America.
            1. Henderson
              Henderson 2 December 2018 17: 26
              +4
              I’m afraid the population there cannot be driven into Russia with a stick
              1. Wedmak
                Wedmak 2 December 2018 18: 12
                +2
                But by the way, I wonder what will change for the local population from such a return? The climate will remain the same ... they will probably open a subsidized tourist route from Russia .. a tunnel (a bridge is problematic, I think) under the Bering Strait ...
                True, there is a problem ... a phrase from a famous film can become a reality, adjusted for geography:
                1. Henderson
                  Henderson 2 December 2018 20: 30
                  -9
                  Quote: Wedmak
                  But by the way, I wonder what will change for the local population from such a return?

                  The standard of living will slide to the Russian. Well and everything else too. Freedom of speech, fair elections, education, medicine and more. They are not enemies to themselves.
                  1. gurzuf
                    gurzuf 2 December 2018 21: 15
                    +4
                    We live in a free country, so that they would have the right to emigrate to where the Negro police fire without a license wink
                    1. Henderson
                      Henderson 2 December 2018 21: 22
                      -7
                      So far, we see that it is the Russians who seek to emigrate to the United States. But not the other way around.
                      What kind of hints.
                      1. gurzuf
                        gurzuf 2 December 2018 21: 30
                        +4
                        The key word is a free country (where blacks are not shot and ... emigrants do not rape women in the presence of husbands) This is without hints.
                      2. Henderson
                        Henderson 2 December 2018 21: 52
                        -10
                        In free countries they don’t put likes on, they don’t ban music concerts, they don’t censor the Internet, they don’t smash exhibitions.
                        And as for the shooting of blacks.
                        The number of intentional killings per 100000 population per year. Designed by the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime:
                        USA - 4.7
                        Somalia - 8.0
                        Russia - 9.2
                        No hints.
                      3. militarist63
                        militarist63 3 December 2018 02: 24
                        +2
                        This is such data otkel ????! Is it you, sir, in the original document of the UN subtracted or in various versions widely dangling in global networks, edited by someone ??? Actually, in the American resource called "Wikipedia" there are completely different statistics. Where Somalia -1,5; USA -4,9; Russia - 6,0. And they refer to the same UNODC with data collected by 2012 .... Since the last research by this organization was carried out for the period 1995-2011 ... e and the solution of the Chechen issue ...
                      4. Henderson
                        Henderson 3 December 2018 11: 07
                        -3
                        I prefer more reliable sources.
                        You can open for example such a document, the Report on Human Development in the Russian Federation (from the Analytical Center under the Government of the Russian Federation), lies in the Russian National Library:
                        http://nlr.ru/prof/reader/images/Docum/Raznoe/ifla%20sdg_analit.pdf
                        Open page 100:
                        This indicator is the first that the United Nations reported to the Sustainable Development Goals in its 2016 report - in 2014, on average
                        the world amounted to 5,3 people, in the developing world - 5,9 people, in the Tropical region
                        Africa - 9,5 people, in Russia - also 9,5 people. The situation is significantly worse only in
                        Latin America, where this figure exceeded the level of 22 people.

                        The numbers are uncomfortable, but it's true. In Russia, they kill an average of 2 times more than the world average.
                      5. Consultant
                        Consultant 3 December 2018 11: 41
                        +2
                        Quote: Henderson
                        The numbers are uncomfortable, but it's true.

                        Well, let's look at the chart together ...



                        Data for the 2014th year. That is, this schedule is applicable to the current situation ... with difficulty.

                        Next to the Russian Federation on it is Argentina, Kazakhstan (!). But for some reason you are talking exclusively about the Russian Federation.

                        By the way, according to the schedule - in the USA there are about three to four times more premeditated murders than in France, Germany, etc.

                        And the last thing - what kind of segregation - "intentional / unintentional murder"? Are murders of blacks by police (yes, in the USA, for example) included in the number of "intentional", or are they not counted in these statistics?

                        Tormented, you know, vague doubts (c).
                      6. Henderson
                        Henderson 3 December 2018 11: 59
                        -3
                        Quote: Consultant
                        Next to the Russian Federation on it is Argentina, Kazakhstan (!). But for some reason you are talking exclusively about the Russian Federation.
                        By the way, according to the schedule - in the USA there are about three to four times more premeditated murders than in France, Germany, etc.

                        I’m talking about the Russian Federation, because initially we compared the Russian Federation and the United States. Yes, the United States has a relatively high crime rate, but nonetheless, it is half that of Russia.
                        Quote: Consultant
                        Are murders of blacks by police (yes, in the USA, for example) included in the number of "intentional", or are they not counted in these statistics?

                        So you give the numbers and consequences of such killings, otherwise there is simply no subject for discussion. Be more specific.
                        I brought you here, you tried to deny them, but in the end I had to accept it.
                        So far, your words are perceived as a stupid quotation of propaganda in the style of "and they lynch blacks", no fantasy.
                      7. Consultant
                        Consultant 3 December 2018 14: 40
                        +1
                        Quote: Henderson
                        Your words are perceived as a stupid quotation of propaganda in the style of "and they lynch blacks", no fantasy

                        Good, what about the (strange, in my opinion) division into intentional-unintentional killings? In Okintsovo - and that, and that leads to the death of the victim, what kind of "electoral statistics" is this - here we count, but here we do not?
                      8. Henderson
                        Henderson 3 December 2018 15: 20
                        -2
                        Let's do it without demagoguery.
                        Manslaughter is:
                        The cause of death by negligence is recognized in the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation as an action or inaction that objectively led to the death of another person, but committed not intentionally, but as a result of negligence, that is, when the perpetrator did not foresee, although he could and should have foreseen that his action would lead or may lead to the death of another person (criminal negligence); either he foresaw, but unreasonably assumed that this would not happen, or hoped to avoid it (criminal frivolity).

                        Thus, causing death by negligence differs from intentional killing in the absence of intent or deliberate admission to cause death, and from innocent causing of death in the fact that the cause of death has sufficient grounds to consider his behavior dangerous to the lives of other people. [/ B]


                        Thus, if a policeman shoots and kills knowingly, then the killing is intentional.
                        So you are able to give statistics on the killing of blacks by policemen, since they have excited you so much?
                      9. Consultant
                        Consultant 3 December 2018 15: 50
                        +1
                        Quote: Henderson
                        Let's do it without demagoguery

                        Yes, I would like that.

                        Quote: Henderson
                        Manslaughter is ...

                        ... murder, which the court recognized as such, no? Moreover, let us note that the court in the USA and the court in the Russian Federation are slightly different organizations, and, accordingly, "unintentional there" is not at all equal to "unintentional here."

                        Okay, I will console you: here are the statistics on intentional murders, very similar to yours in some places (place on the list - country - count per 100000, 2013):

                        ...
                        108 United States of America 4.7
                        109 Latvia 4.7
                        ...
                        114 Estonia 5
                        116 Belarus 5.1
                        117 North Korea 5.2
                        ...
                        126 Moldova 6.5
                        128 Lithuania 6.7
                        129 Eritrea 7.1
                        130 Chad 7.3
                        ...
                        137 Pakistan 7.7
                        138 Kazakhstan 7.8
                        ...
                        144 Iraq 8
                        ...
                        154 Russia 9.2
                        ...
                        163 Haiti 10.2
                        ...

                        From this it can be seen that there are about twice as many intentional killings per capita in the Russian Federation as in the United States; but in the US and the population is twice as large wink

                        We also see that the "civilized" Moldova and Lithuania have not gone far from Eritrea and Chad, and the Russian Federation is a cross between Iraq (civilized in the American way) and Haiti, the island of the dream of prodigal parrots.

                        In addition, the UN "counting" does not really convince me personally: the UN is still the fiefdom of the United States, and whoever eats a girl is definitely not the leader in murders per 100000 population.

                        That something like this.
                      10. Henderson
                        Henderson 3 December 2018 16: 07
                        -3
                        Quote: Consultant
                        From this it can be seen that there are about twice as many intentional killings per capita in the Russian Federation as in the United States; but in the US and the population is twice as large

                        from this it is clear that you are not all right with elementary logic. The crime rate per 100 thousand people does not depend on the number of people in the country. Trite in the Russian Federation with more than half the population there is the same number of violent deaths.
                        Quote: Consultant
                        and the Russian Federation is a cross between Iraq (American civilized) and Haiti, the island of the dream of the prodigal parrots.

                        therefore, I said that the population of Alaska and Hawaii was seen in a coffin to become part of Russia.
                        Quote: Consultant
                        In addition, the UN-ovsky "counting" does not really convince me personally: the UN is the domain of the United States.

                        The government of the Russian Federation and its analysts is quite happy with this report.
                        So you promised without demagoguery, poured water again.
                        Where are all the same numbers about the killing of blacks by US police? And if you don’t have them, then why did you bring your fantasies here?
                      11. Consultant
                        Consultant 3 December 2018 16: 25
                        +1
                        Quote: Henderson
                        The government of the Russian Federation and its analysts is quite satisfied with this report.

                        I am not quite happy with the Government of the Russian Federation. Including for this reason.

                        Quote: Henderson
                        Where are all the same numbers about the killing of blacks by US police?

                        Did I promise them to someone?

                        Quote: Henderson
                        why did you even bring your fantasies here?

                        Purely look at the reaction. Goal achieved yes
                      12. Henderson
                        Henderson 3 December 2018 16: 30
                        -3
                        No, no, no. Continue to live in an alternate reality.
                  2. Wedmak
                    Wedmak 2 December 2018 22: 09
                    +4
                    The standard of living is highly dependent on the place in Russia. And medicine, and education and so on. Usually all the crap from local officials. We climbed into the chair, that's all, I'm the local king, and you are my lackeys. Hence the problems.
                    You know, many foreigners say that our level of freedom is much higher than in Europe or the United States. Well, if you have neighbors blaming you, it doesn’t matter if it’s true or false, they can take the child away for months while the proceedings are going on ... and denunciations are a common thing. When immigrants mock and rape the girls, the police cannot find the corpus delicti ... and ordinary people can’t explain to the impudent people how to behave ... when Islamic patrols go through the European city ... and much more. Nafig-nafig such a country ...
                    1. Henderson
                      Henderson 2 December 2018 22: 58
                      -8
                      Quote: Wedmak
                      and much more I can list

                      listing tales from the media like Rashitdey is not necessary.
                      But in fact, we have that the Russians emigrate en masse abroad. Every year more and more, annually over 300 thousand people - this is a whole city the size of Tula. And the most qualified specialists are leaving.
              2. sabakina
                sabakina 2 December 2018 20: 07
                +3
                Quote: Henderson
                I’m afraid the population there cannot be driven into Russia with a stick

                Have you already tried it? wink
            2. Sergej1972
              Sergej1972 2 December 2018 23: 21
              0
              Hawaii was never under our control, and in California we owned the little Fort Ross.
        2. vik669
          vik669 2 December 2018 16: 15
          +5
          Yes, he reached such an extent when the snack is no longer valid!
        3. auran
          auran 11 December 2018 10: 40
          0
          and the sea knee-deep
      3. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 3 December 2018 09: 16
        0
        And call the Crimean bridge in the name of Peter Poroshenko.
    2. Labrador
      Labrador 2 December 2018 15: 56
      +8
      This file has come fool
      1. Baloo
        Baloo 2 December 2018 16: 33
        +12
        Quote: Labrador
        This file has come fool

        The squirrel is not to blame
        1. Alexander Sviridov
          Alexander Sviridov 3 December 2018 03: 20
          +4
          In their response, the Ukrainian military demanded that Poroshenko leave them alone.
          They are held captive and safer and better fed :)) laughing
    3. mavrus
      mavrus 2 December 2018 16: 28
      +6
      It is strange that he has not yet demanded from Russia a couple of billions for the "moral and physical damage to the Ukrainian Navy."
      1. artifact
        artifact 2 December 2018 17: 21
        +3
        diapers don't cost that much.
      2. Wedmak
        Wedmak 2 December 2018 18: 13
        +3
        Duc, cabbage soup, a mustache on the list ... appetites will only grow.
    4. taiga2018
      taiga2018 2 December 2018 16: 33
      +4
      Quote: bubalik
      well insolent!

      why not be impudent, if even after all this spitting on their part, Russia continues to be the largest investor in the Ukrainian economy, provides jobs for millions of "intimidated" citizens of this country ...
    5. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 2 December 2018 18: 35
      +6
      Quote: bubalik
      ,,, well insolent! negative angry

      The insolent is not insolent, but the initiative is in his hands. He is a striker. And the Darkest always makes excuses: - No, we didn’t attack, we act in the framework of the law and international law, etc., etc.
      When will the Darkest and Lavrov go on the attack? When they start to DEMAND and ACCUSE (!) For example, we demand that the shelling of the Donbass settlements be stopped immediately! Otherwise, we will be forced to ... (hereinafter in the text). Every day, RT and Sputnik must bring to the attention of Americans and Europeans the statements of the Russian government, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and the president on Donbass issues. When will they learn to raise the "wave" from mattress makers, the British and other Europeans?
      1. Wolf
        Wolf 2 December 2018 18: 54
        0
        It’s necessary to take the democrats, with this slogan of NATO rammed the state.
        1. Wolf
          Wolf 2 December 2018 18: 57
          0
          Tae was killed by Ceausescu, pa Gadafi, pa Hussein na Milosevic and couples milon hostile citizens in these countries.
    6. antivirus
      antivirus 2 December 2018 19: 54
      +2
      Poroshenko continues to give interviews to major Western media,

      MARS ATTACKS..
      that’s where the world’s musk --- and we think about the greatness of Russia
    7. ver_
      ver_ 3 December 2018 03: 55
      +1
      ... like all Sumerians - arrogant, deceitful, greedy and corrupt ...
    8. Kent0001
      Kent0001 3 December 2018 08: 38
      0
      Yes, nooo-as he gets bitter, he immediately begins to feel "great" and equal to all normal world leaders .... and they break him off and show him where he really belongs.
    9. kostiknet
      kostiknet 3 December 2018 12: 00
      +1
      If Petya does not like the situation with the Sea of ​​Azov, then let him dig out something else (away from Russia). They have experience ... lol And about the fact that the strait was opened long ago, Pete forgot to tell. But he forgot to ask again.
  2. Consultant
    Consultant 2 December 2018 15: 50
    +13
    It’s him, as it is right there ... that he’s not enough.

    I drank more than I could, but less than I wanted request
    1. Tersky
      Tersky 2 December 2018 16: 54
      +6
      Quote: Consultant
      but less than wanted

      Or don’t put off until tomorrow what you can drink today.
  3. Tusv
    Tusv 2 December 2018 15: 52
    +12
    Translated into Russian it is. The rating is below the plinth, give money for the elections, otherwise Putin will appoint his own and begin to "dictate an unyielding will to the rest of the world."
    1. vik669
      vik669 2 December 2018 16: 17
      +4
      Yes, he already needs a ladder to reach the baseboard!
  4. svp67
    svp67 2 December 2018 15: 55
    +9
    In addition, Poroshenko put forward a number of requirements to Russia. According to him, Russia "must immediately open the Kerch Strait", "withdraw the troops from the border with Ukraine," as well as "withdraw all warships from the waters of the Sea of ​​Azov."

    But does Peter Alekseevich not want to start, as a gesture of goodwill? To withdraw troops from the borders with Russia, to demilitarize the Sea of ​​Azov, to release our boats ...
    Poroshenko also said that representatives of the Ukrainian delegation will raise all these issues during the meeting "in the Norman format."
    Pyotr Alekseevich, you will first get to a meeting of the "Normandy format", and then we will see who and what is raising there?
    1. Angel_and_Demon
      Angel_and_Demon 2 December 2018 16: 05
      +5
      Quote: svp67
      Petr Alekseevich, you will first get to the meeting of the "Normandy format", and then we will see who and what is there will raise

      And you are an esthete my friend - "he will raise", if he does not smoke there, Khan in the Norman format
      1. svp67
        svp67 2 December 2018 16: 12
        +10
        Quote: Angel_and_Demon
        And you are an esthete my friend - "he will raise", if he does not smoke there, Khan in the Norman format

        And what else they do there, they just "let the smoke in" ... But seriously, Putin, Poroshenko already, "does not see at close range." One of the qualities of VVP, he does not like when he is deceived so much and does not keep his word.
        The most dangerous thing is that he looks like Trump and in this category began to enter ... in the category of "empty space"
        1. Angel_and_Demon
          Angel_and_Demon 2 December 2018 16: 16
          0
          Quote: svp67
          The most dangerous thing is that he looks like Trump and in this category began to enter ... in the category of "empty space"

          So soon there’s no one to talk to
          1. Tersky
            Tersky 2 December 2018 18: 31
            +9
            Quote: Angel_and_Demon
            So soon there’s no one to talk to

            But does it make sense to talk with those who have hearing problems.
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 3 December 2018 09: 21
              0
              Or maybe not with hearing, but with brains?
        2. krops777
          krops777 2 December 2018 16: 24
          +9
          The most dangerous thing is that he looks like Trump and in this category began to enter ... in the category of "empty space"


          The most interesting thing that I drew attention to at the G20 summit, Trump behaved as usual befits a chief, but at the same time most of him was simply ignored.
  5. gabonskijfront
    gabonskijfront 2 December 2018 15: 56
    +5
    Macron and Merkel would sooner or later be strangled by a shoe lace, right at a meeting of the Norman four,
  6. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 2 December 2018 15: 57
    +3
    This nonsense is even impossible to comment! Himself sbrendil and invites Eurykov to his mental hospital! fool
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 2 December 2018 16: 05
      +6
      Quote: Vlad5307
      This nonsense is even impossible to comment! Himself sbrendil and invites Eurykov to his mental hospital! fool

      And they listen, nod and walk ... And all this because we do not give change to these lying European regimes. Therefore, they greet, and nod and publish the nonsense of this drunk.
      1. Machito
        Machito 2 December 2018 16: 52
        +2
        Nexus, I agree with your position.
        Defending offensive. good
    2. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 2 December 2018 17: 00
      +2
      Quote: Vlad5307
      This nonsense is even impossible to comment! Himself sbrendil and invites Eurykov to his mental hospital! fool

      While the orderlies walk in straitjackets, Poroshenko is either Napoleon or a pirate. Interestingly, he already suspects that if he is caught, then they will hang him?
  7. Ural-4320
    Ural-4320 2 December 2018 15: 58
    +6
    How do I sympathize with all EU officials who have to daily contact with Ukrainian colleagues. And I would be glad to send, but the protocol does not allow. And you understand that they carry the purest nonsense, but you have to listen.
    I recall the question of I.V. Stalin in Tehran in 1943: "Is it really necessary for our headquarters to resolve this issue? Are the three of us incompetent to solve it?"
    If only someone would say how snapped.
    1. Machito
      Machito 2 December 2018 16: 08
      +1
      EU officials themselves carry such nonsense, as if their headquarters were not in Brussels, but in Amsterdam.
      1. Ural-4320
        Ural-4320 2 December 2018 16: 09
        +2
        How much is that distance between cities? The breeze rose in Amsterdam - Brussels "blew". laughing
  8. Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 2 December 2018 15: 59
    +4
    And I like the way he squeals. If squeals, then we are doing everything right.
  9. morpogr
    morpogr 2 December 2018 16: 01
    +2
    In front of the mirror, he probably reads his prayer: only stars are above us, only mountains are steeper than us. Well, I'm the most sociable and helpful. Clown
    lol
  10. Boris Nevzorov
    Boris Nevzorov 2 December 2018 16: 02
    +5
    "The President of Ukraine put forward demands against Russia"

    "... and then Ostap suffered ..."

    Petruha’s demands on Russia are increasing with the amount of alcohol he drinks ... wassat
  11. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 2 December 2018 16: 03
    +1
    The dill boar grunted towards Russia ... After a little thought, he was supported by a mongrel on shaking legs, a little later a toad croaked, and soon the whole barnyard was shouting angrily. No one already remembered how it all began and what they were so indignant against, but they firmly knew: Russia is to blame for everything. If it were not for her, everywhere there would be peace, smoothness and "the goodness of the air."
  12. NEXUS
    NEXUS 2 December 2018 16: 03
    +2
    In addition, Poroshenko put forward a number of requirements to Russia. According to him, Russia "must immediately open the Kerch Strait", "withdraw the troops from the border with Ukraine," as well as "withdraw all warships from the waters of the Sea of ​​Azov."

    In the kitchen with a hot drink, let him push such toasts to his wife.
  13. Proton
    Proton 2 December 2018 16: 04
    +1
    Something Petro sold seriously laughing makes such presentations. To see good moonshine cooked for him.
  14. LiSiCyn
    LiSiCyn 2 December 2018 16: 08
    +1
    Quote: Ural-4320
    How do I sympathize with all EU officials who have to daily contact with Ukrainian colleagues. And I would be glad to send, but the protocol does not allow. And you understand that they carry the purest nonsense, but you have to listen.

    Moreover, you have to carry the same nonsense further ...
    And about the expression of Stalin ... I think VVP made such proposals. But the answer was, "we can only make a decision after consultation" ...
  15. gabonskijfront
    gabonskijfront 2 December 2018 16: 10
    0
    In my opinion, he has already entered the image of Buanopart, doesn’t excite to feats like martial law.
    1. Andrey Chistyakov
      Andrey Chistyakov 2 December 2018 16: 12
      0
      Quote: gabonskijfront
      In my opinion, he has already entered the image of Buanopart, doesn’t excite to feats like martial law.

      Have a drink with it (joke) ..
  16. Andrey Chistyakov
    Andrey Chistyakov 2 December 2018 16: 12
    +3
    Petro is not up to you now. Macron wants to enter an emergency due to riots. Come back later ...
  17. 1 Alexander 1
    1 Alexander 1 2 December 2018 16: 12
    +2
    Actually, who is he to dictate terms to us?
    The successor of the traditions of Bin Laden and nothing more.
    And what about the terrorists, and just like in Syria or to take an example from the Amer special services that have laid the rest of Bin-Laden forever.
  18. vkfriendly
    vkfriendly 2 December 2018 16: 15
    +1
    Gentlemen, well, you really do not take any grospakes like market women, seriously, all this hype is only for interior consumption before the election, and you know about it, well, Western journalists understand this is their bread, because nobody knows the truth to them he won’t let me write, and in the worst case, they just turn out from the editorial office if, of course, there are such ideological, and not magazine-whores.
    1. Machito
      Machito 2 December 2018 17: 25
      0
      Quite the contrary. This clown is given out as a serious figure by large uncles with nuclear bombs.
  19. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 2 December 2018 16: 23
    0
    The President of Ukraine made demands ...

    Restless Pierrot ... Drive to Ternopil, lay a heap near the monument to Stepan Bandera and demand a piece of paper. Totally black sea shores?
  20. victor50
    victor50 2 December 2018 16: 31
    0
    Where is it from them ??? 27 years of independence, they constantly talk about it, are proud of it right there (I once saw it in my favorite caricature): We are independent, help us! The complete loss of feeling by the nation — it is somehow inconvenient to even speak of dignity — of elementary self-esteem. Ugh, an abomination!
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    1. Andrey Chistyakov
      Andrey Chistyakov 2 December 2018 16: 42
      0
      Quote: Dmitriy66
      SHOOT THE POWDER !!!

      Wipe off the powder.
  22. Dmitriy66
    Dmitriy66 2 December 2018 16: 34
    0
    Sorry, got excited ....
    Sunday, evening, dinner, wineglass ...
    To hang up !!
  23. Altona
    Altona 2 December 2018 16: 44
    0
    Earlier for the meeting of the "Norman group" called President of Turkeystating that the leaders of Russia, Ukraine, France and Germany should discuss de-escalation issues in the Strait of Kerch.
    -------------------------------------
    "Grateful" Turkey is always the first for a pod. What for Putin saved Erdogan at the time?
    He literally gave him the Turkish Stream, Akkuyu NPP, S-400 air defense super complexes. For what exactly? Turchan politics immediately goes sideways, backwards, but not as expected.
    1. Machito
      Machito 2 December 2018 17: 28
      0
      Erdogan, on the contrary, shook himself and turned the arrows on the sponsors of the Maidan, so that they could appease their puppet.
    2. artifact
      artifact 2 December 2018 17: 31
      +1
      if it hadn’t been saved, then in the place of Erdogashi there would have been someone like powdered or baton-saakashvili ...
      1. cniza
        cniza 2 December 2018 20: 04
        +1
        Either there would be a second Iraq or Libya.
        1. artifact
          artifact 2 December 2018 21: 19
          0
          Also an option. I’m only in a buzz if there is one continuous ISIS along the perimeter of Russia.
  24. adma
    adma 2 December 2018 16: 45
    +2
    As the practice of such statements shows, Europe and America hears only what is beneficial to it. It creates in itself the public opinion they need. And as, again, the practice of the last 4 years with Ukraine shows - they will take Poroshenko’s version as the basis. And they are deeply fooled by all our arguments, telemetry, evidence, etc.
    And here it is not necessary to practice "Uryapatriotism", but to think seriously and prepare for new sanctions and sticks in the wheels. As I see it.
    1. Machito
      Machito 2 December 2018 17: 29
      +1
      Read the "free" press during the Crimean War: change the dates and everything will work out the same.
      The dog barks - the caravan goes on.
      1. cniza
        cniza 2 December 2018 20: 04
        +1
        History repeats itself.
  25. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 2 December 2018 16: 52
    0
    It seems that this "lame duck" at least won the war, and dictates the truth of behavior to the whole world ...
    1. Machito
      Machito 2 December 2018 17: 31
      +1
      The sentenced deferred the death penalty and appealed.
      Again there is no reason not to drink. drinks
  26. irazum
    irazum 2 December 2018 16: 56
    0
    Reflected in the square. Worth the discussion?
  27. Ham
    Ham 2 December 2018 17: 02
    0
    it is strange that only such "demands" were voiced by the great president of the mighty Sumerian superpower, whose boots trample the universe ...
    but what about "giving up Crimea", "demolishing the Kerch bridge"?
    you can still demand a complete and unconditional surrender drinks
    1. cniza
      cniza 2 December 2018 19: 00
      +2
      This is in the next package of requirements. lol
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  29. artifact
    artifact 2 December 2018 17: 19
    +1
    Well, it’s just that Petusik imagines himself the mistress of the sea ...
  30. jonny64
    jonny64 2 December 2018 17: 21
    0
    Petruccio, go get better!
  31. av58
    av58 2 December 2018 17: 21
    0
    In response, Poroshenko can send a package of diapers as a gift.
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  33. APASUS
    APASUS 2 December 2018 17: 31
    +2
    Playing for the public is worth a lot! But Poroshenko’s problem is that he is constantly replaying, making the country a laughing stock. Gabriel was not in vain outraged that Germany was drawn into the war, and the Germans turned a blind eye to the clowning
    1. cniza
      cniza 2 December 2018 18: 59
      +2
      They were afraid not childishly, but Poroshenko apparently did not understand.
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 2 December 2018 20: 53
        0
        Quote: cniza
        They were afraid not childishly, but Poroshenko apparently did not understand.

        There is no doubt that they (the Germans) will still "like" Poroshenko with the "reasonable" US policy and his hungover willingness to destroy anyone in order to stay in power.
  34. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 2 December 2018 17: 44
    +2
    This, as in a pioneer camp, there is always a dude who constantly tells scary stories to everyone at night ...
    1. cniza
      cniza 2 December 2018 18: 58
      +2
      He doesn't seem to be doing very well.
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  36. Terenin
    Terenin 2 December 2018 17: 54
    +1
    Poroshenko also said that representatives of the Ukrainian делегР° С † Ryoro They will raise all these issues during the meeting "in the Norman format."
    Read how "representatives of the Ukrainian degradation will understand these issues in a psychiatric hospital."
  37. gsev
    gsev 2 December 2018 18: 12
    0
    Great move in the campaign. Now all the media are broadcasting without payment, "Know Mosska is so strong ..." Poroshenko, at the cost of 3 ships, raised his recognition rating.
  38. Etienne
    Etienne 2 December 2018 18: 22
    +1
    There is the Oath, the Charter and the Law, and what the "civilized West bears is wisdom sobs. So let them cry! They started like in XNUMX, so they still can't stop. To the moderators: if it doesn't work out, I won't strongly object."
  39. serge siberian
    serge siberian 2 December 2018 18: 26
    +1
    Petro broke all agreements with us, and this, as I understand it, there is no longer such a state as Ukraine on the world map. And there is the Ukrainian SSR. And, since Russia is the heir to the USSR, Russia has the right to introduce its own legislation in that territory . soldier
  40. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 2 December 2018 18: 44
    +1
    and also “withdraw all warships from the waters of the Sea of ​​Azov”.
    not that? !!!
    1. cniza
      cniza 2 December 2018 18: 57
      +2
      Otherwise, he will send the last two boats.
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 2 December 2018 19: 58
        +1
        Quote: cniza
        Otherwise, he will send the last two boats.

        Poroshenko, the man of the word!
        1. cniza
          cniza 2 December 2018 20: 10
          +2
          "man" said - the man did. yes
  41. Dym71
    Dym71 2 December 2018 18: 50
    +1
    Russia "must immediately open the Kerch Strait," "withdraw troops from the border with Ukraine," and also "withdraw all warships from the waters of the Sea of ​​Azov."

    I do not want to be a free queen,
    I want to be the mistress of the sea,
    To live in the sea of ​​Ocian,
    To serve me a goldfish
    And I would have been on my premises ” fellow
    1. cniza
      cniza 2 December 2018 18: 56
      +2
      And the end of the tale is not in his favor.
  42. ZVS
    ZVS 2 December 2018 18: 52
    +1
    And what to do Poroshenko ?! He lost half of his fleet! This is unacceptable!
    The Jewish clown, got off ... alsya, now shouts "help" to the European males. And those are in the hands of the owner - the United States.
    1. cniza
      cniza 2 December 2018 18: 56
      +2
      He still wants to make money at the expense of Ukraine.
  43. Cannonball
    Cannonball 2 December 2018 18: 56
    0
    Russia, of course, will be scared and will pull up additional troops to the Ukrainian border, will bring the ships of the Black Sea Fleet into the Sea of ​​Azov, and all ships under the Ukrainian flag will be inspected by the Russian traffic police.
  44. DymOk_v_dYmke
    DymOk_v_dYmke 2 December 2018 19: 03
    0
    Petro Poroshenko continues to give interviews to major Western media ...

    And, most likely, paid.
  45. Topol M
    Topol M 2 December 2018 19: 12
    0
    You will demand from your wife!
  46. irazum
    irazum 2 December 2018 19: 20
    0
    Well, talk with a fool?
  47. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 2 December 2018 19: 34
    0
    urkaina president demands Russia

    Did the demand grow?

    Russia "must immediately open the Kerch Strait," "withdraw troops from the border with Ukraine," and also "withdraw all warships from the waters of the Sea of ​​Azov."

    Purcua? Which banana? This is the territory of Russia, and only Russia will decide what to do.
    And the "Western partners", in response to his hysterical cries, politely sent Pedro far and for a long time laughing
  48. Nepoymikto.
    Nepoymikto. 2 December 2018 19: 54
    0
    Squirrel again prevailed over Poroshenko ...
  49. gx200gx
    gx200gx 2 December 2018 19: 59
    0
    He can demand anything whatever, in fact a bare zero.
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 2 December 2018 20: 35
      0
      Quote: gx200gx
      He can demand anything whatever, in fact a bare zero.

      Only, this zero started a machine of repression against his people. Although, maybe they do not mind ?! request
  50. Gerklim
    Gerklim 2 December 2018 21: 04
    0
    The elimination of Ukraine's `` fleet '' can contribute to security in the Azov-Black Sea region.