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Media: Israeli scientists gave access to the segment of the archives of the USSR

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Israeli media reported that Moscow agreed to accept Israeli Minister of Social Equality Gil Gamliel. It is noted that she became the first Israeli minister to visit Russia after the tragedy with the Il-20 of the Russian Aerospace Force of the Russian Federation in Syria. Recall that the Russian side accused Israeli pilots of provocation, as a result of which the plane was mistakenly shot down by a Syrian calculation of the C-200 air defense missile system and Russian soldiers killed. The Israeli authorities have denied the charges, stating that at the time of the Syrian attack, all the F-16 aircraft that participated in the operation were already in Israeli airspace.


Media: Israeli scientists gave access to the segment of the archives of the USSR


В Media It says about the reasons for the trip of the Minister of the Israeli government in Russia. Gila Gamliel turned to the Russian authorities with a request to open for Israel the archives of the special services and intelligence of the USSR. This, according to Gamliel, is necessary for "studying the vital activity of Jews in Arab countries."

It was announced that the Minister of the Israeli Cabinet of Ministers had already held talks with the head of the Russian Duma’s international affairs committee, Leonid Slutsky. If you believe the Israeli media, the Russian authorities have met and agreed to provide access to the requested segment of Soviet intelligence archives. The data, as stated, will be studied by Israeli scientists.

The Russian side has not yet commented on this publication.

The reports of Israeli channels say that the issue of the tragedy with the Russian plane of electronic intelligence was not raised at the meeting with representatives of the Russian authorities. At the same time, attention was drawn to the fact that Moscow accepted the minister a few hours after reports of a new strike by the Israeli Air Force on the territory of the SAR.
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  1. SSR
    SSR 1 December 2018 09: 33
    +6
    Maybe her .... this will be the most, although not)))
    In general, you should not make a "sensation", we are not beaten by the passport, but it is just
    Minister of Social Equality Gilu Gamliel.

    and spread rot for the actions of the military, I think no one was and is not going to.
    There is nothing "fried" here, and even that a few hours after the impact.
    1. Machito
      Machito 1 December 2018 09: 38
      +8
      All Israeli citizens are Mossad agents. Maybe she shouldn’t have opened our secret archive?
      1. keeper03
        keeper03 1 December 2018 09: 52
        +21
        Let the fox go to the chicken coop! request hi
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 1 December 2018 11: 34
          +21
          This is another bureaucratic-deputy betrayal of Russia and the Russians - and nothing more!
          "Ours" are completely crazy !!!
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 1 December 2018 11: 59
            +6
            According to rumors, the wife of Slutskyexcept 2's daughters and grandson, there is still son Denis Lyskov, who heads the subsidiary of the state-owned corporation Roscosmos - Glavkosmos.

            Source: https://sntch.com/16-faktov-pro-leonida-slutskogo-kotorogo-obvinyayut-v-domogatelstvah/
          2. milton
            milton 1 December 2018 12: 00
            +7
            Quote: Tatiana
            This is another bureaucratic-deputy betrayal of Russia and the Russians - and nothing more!
            "Ours" are completely crazy !!!

            Again we are advancing on the same rake! You just need to remember how many on this site the six-pointed were proud of their victories in the war of Loan Day and the Lebanese war? There were undoubtedly tactical victories, but they did not win the war. So now they read the archives, make notes and rewrite the story for themselves negative
      2. SSR
        SSR 1 December 2018 09: 52
        +1
        Quote: Bearded
        All Israeli citizens are Mossad agents. Maybe she shouldn’t have opened our secret archive?

        All Jews are agents of the Mossad - how to deal with this?)))
        Damn, for so many agents, there must be at least one level of K. Philby.
        1. Machito
          Machito 1 December 2018 10: 40
          +6
          My Israeli friend Arthur came to Moscow in the summer. He told me how he argued with a neighbor in Israel that there are more Russians in Israel than anyone else. The neighbor disagreed. Arthur convinced him with an iron argument: "Go out into the street and shout Russian obscenities - a minute will not pass, as you will be answered."
          I don’t understand why Russia and Israel are not allies. May 9 in Israel celebrate Victory Day with tears in his eyes with Soviet orders on his chest, singing Katyusha. Our grandfathers were sitting in the same trench, and the grandchildren were looking at each other through the scope. Not for this our grandfathers fought. They would not like it.
          1. SSR
            SSR 1 December 2018 10: 47
            0
            Quote: Bearded
            I don’t understand why Russia and Israel are not allies.

            Maybe such a time will come, Israel is a young state.
            1. faterdom
              faterdom 1 December 2018 23: 46
              +1
              When the United States begins to shake the civil war, and it becomes violet to the Near and Far East, then Israel will be left alone with all the hive that they together have spread around Israel - then, and only then they will suddenly need and the possibility of a sharp improvement in relations with Russia. Just a physiological need will arise. Either flee to Russia, or be friends with Russia.
          2. Mr Credo
            Mr Credo 1 December 2018 11: 01
            +9
            Oh well! Our grandfathers were in the same trench !? Jews seem to have funded Hitler, served with him. And even destroyed the Jews! And the gas chambers seem to have been invented by a Jew! But other Jews fought against these Jews! And today they have a friendly Jewish family! Is it called we all sat in the same trench or in the same boat? I have nothing against the Jews who fought against fascism. I just can’t understand how they became one close-knit family today !? We here in Russia cannot make friends with each other. The oligarch does not want to be friends and be relatives of the worker and the homeless. How could the Jews do this?
            1. milton
              milton 1 December 2018 12: 08
              +3
              Quote: Mr Credo
              Oh well! Our grandfathers were in the same trench !? Jews seem to have funded Hitler, served with him. And even destroyed the Jews! And the gas chambers seem to have been invented by a Jew! But other Jews fought against these Jews! And today they have a friendly Jewish family! Is it called we all sat in the same trench or in the same boat? I have nothing against the Jews who fought against fascism. I just can’t understand how they became one close-knit family today !? We here in Russia cannot make friends with each other. The oligarch does not want to be friends and be relatives of the worker and the homeless. How could the Jews do this?

              You see, the defended young Jewish state was precisely those who fought with fascism and suffered from it. But their problem was that they were poor. They were given money by those Jews who financed fascism and made good money from it, and then seized power. hi
            2. polar fox
              polar fox 1 December 2018 14: 13
              -1
              Quote: Mister Creed

              Oh well! Our grandfathers were in the same trench !?

              Imagine, they sat. and fought. and fought not badly. But those who "fought" on the Tashkent front, they pledged the traitors. Rokhlin, by the way, was also a Jew, but this did not prevent him from fighting. and the soldiers followed him.
          3. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk 1 December 2018 12: 39
            +7
            Quote: Bearded
            Our grandfathers were sitting in the same trench, and the grandchildren were looking at each other through the scope. Not for this our grandfathers fought. They would not like it.

            Yeah. They sat. I asked my father - were there Jews in the regiment? (Separate anti-tank artillery regiment) There was, he says, one, the chief financial officer.
            First, foreigners are given access to our archives, and then they write all sorts of libels at us. This is the first thing. And the second - what nationality Slutsky? Is this the "Russian authorities" who "agreed to meet" the wishes of the Israeli minister?
            Draw conclusions, gentlemen, comrades.
            1. IQ12NHJ21az
              IQ12NHJ21az 2 December 2018 14: 47
              +2
              There is only one conclusion - an alternate airfield, where they will run, if anything, and in order to be accepted, it is necessary for the receiving side to do different "nishtyaks" right now, preferably at the expense of Russia.
          4. shura7782
            shura7782 1 December 2018 19: 37
            +3
            Quote: Bearded
            I don’t understand why Russia and Israel are not allies.

            But why? They are trying their best and are drawn closer to Russia. They even managed to conduct the exercises of their Air Force as part of NATO this year near our borders,
            What time! .......
          5. Mih1974
            Mih1974 2 December 2018 22: 45
            0
            Because "some who" are too cunning am and we have such "comrades - not comrades at all" negative . Look how they framed our IL and there is no need to otmazyvat them here- ALL this was a planned provocation so that we removed the Syrian air defense.
      3. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 1 December 2018 11: 04
        +10
        Quote: Bearded
        Maybe she shouldn’t have opened our secret archive?

        All the same, she will not be able to familiarize herself with documents thematically beyond the scope of the stated study, archives are divided into separate funds. It would simply not be a bad thing to roll out your counter interest in the information in their funds and then allow research within the framework of information exchange. And then it will turn out when we are interested in something, they will show us a cookie.
      4. 23424636
        23424636 1 December 2018 14: 28
        +3
        \
        Quote: Bearded
        All Israeli citizens are Mossad agents. Maybe she shouldn’t have opened our secret archive?

        Slutsky would open to his people not only the archives of the Lubyanka but also the State Guard, but so far hesitates.
        1. Servisinzhener
          Servisinzhener 1 December 2018 21: 03
          0
          Such decisions are not made by a State Duma deputy, even by the head of a committee.
  2. mvd ru
    mvd ru 1 December 2018 09: 34
    +6
    Regarding the Israeli Air Force attack on Thursday, there are such versions: CThe Irish military received a clear order not to attack Israeli fighters.

    A day earlier, Israeli fighters launched massive air strikes against southwestern Syria, and although the overwhelming majority of Israeli missiles were intercepted by Syrian air and missile defense systems, Israeli military aircraft did not attack Syrian C-300 “Favorite” air defense systems, which could well destroy combat fighters. even in the airspace of the Jewish state. As it became known, the reason for all was the use of the Israeli military strategy of covering civilian aircraft, which could well be destroyed by anti-aircraft missiles in the case of the same C-300.

    Relocation of civil aircraft from the period between 21: 00 and November 29 and 2: November 20 and 30 2018 of the year



    Read more at: http://avia.pro/news/stalo-izvestno-pochemu-siriyskie-s-300-ne-atakovali-izrailskie-istrebiteli
    1. SSR
      SSR 1 December 2018 09: 45
      +6
      Quote: mvd ru
      As it became known, the reason for everything was the use by the Israeli military of a cover strategy with civil aircraft, which could well be destroyed by anti-aircraft missiles if the same S-300s were used.

      Easily like the truth!
      Taking into account the fact that what a fuss was from the Western "partners" where no one died (ukrokatera violators), in the case of a civil lamb, everything would be much more complicated, there would be a run-over to Russia not according to Assad.
      As I already said - the Israelis have an advantage in choosing a place, time and other factors, but among the air defense officers, patience, accuracy of choice, but? This time must be endured, caught and dealt a crushing blow!
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  3. Ascetic
    Ascetic 1 December 2018 09: 36
    +8
    Israeli cabinet minister has already negotiated with head of the Russian Duma’s international affairs committee Leonid Slutskim


    Madame is pleasant, apparently Slutsky could not resist, given his love of loving repeat
    1. Alexander Galaktionov
      Alexander Galaktionov 1 December 2018 09: 42
      +13
      Jew helped Jewess laughing
    2. SSR
      SSR 1 December 2018 09: 49
      +6
      Quote: Ascetic
      Madame Pleasant

      I "googled",))) .... in this photo she is in disguise.)))
      Slutsky expects a surprise.
      So he needs it, let the ardor die.)))
      1. Servisinzhener
        Servisinzhener 1 December 2018 21: 06
        0
        So there are no eyes on the back of the hand. Especially when she is pressed to her forehead .... lower abdomen wink laughing Yes, and there is still one Russian folk wisdom about the beauty of women and the lack of vodka wink
    3. Same lech
      Same lech 1 December 2018 09: 58
      -1
      Madame is pleasant, apparently Slutsky could not resist, given his love of loving

      With such a percussion instrument, she will break through all the walls in the world ... how many officials with secrets suffered from such ladies can not be counted.
      And beautiful and slender and smart and persistent with her God, I would not resist her pressure.
      It strains only this ...
      Minister for Pensioners and Gender Development of Minorities (since 2015) ...
      1. Ascetic
        Ascetic 1 December 2018 11: 03
        +4
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        Minister for Pensioners and Gender Development of Minorities (since 2015) ...

        Our ideologists of pension reform nervously smoke on the sidelines
        Minister for Pensioners and Social Equality Gila Gamliel (Likud) called for raising the overall age of dismissal, with retirement, to 70 years. According to her, people in today's Israel live longer and want to work more.

        And here we are complaining ... It is necessary to take an example from the Jews; laughing
        In the Soviet Union, many Jewish families were usually asked not "where does a friend or relative work, but"where is it arranged". The peculiarity of the mentality in the era of developed socialism
        Now in the era of underdeveloped capitalism they no longer say that :-(
    4. Mih1974
      Mih1974 2 December 2018 22: 47
      0
      So - make it "come true" for the most tomatoes !! So that he would not only eat with his head - but also Thought what he was doing !!
  4. aszzz888
    aszzz888 1 December 2018 09: 39
    +3
    appealed to the Russian authorities with a request to open for Israel archives of special services and intelligence of the USSR. This, according to Gamliel, is necessary for "studying the life of Jews in the Arab countries."

    ... neither more nor less from the "archives of the special services and intelligence of the USSR" ... request request request
    1. Avior
      Avior 1 December 2018 11: 08
      -1
      The USSR was actively present in the Arab countries at one time, intelligence itself worked, and Jews, of course, were in sight first of all
  5. prior
    prior 1 December 2018 09: 45
    +5
    A Jew and a Jew will find a common language in any situation and in any country.
  6. Olgovich
    Olgovich 1 December 2018 09: 48
    +2
    Allowed and allowed ....
    request
  7. Masya masya
    Masya masya 1 December 2018 09: 50
    +4
    oh well ... secret lists were given to her, for beautiful eyes ... well, they passed the list of those who left, the unprofitable ...
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 1 December 2018 09: 57
      +4
      Quote: Masya Masya
      oh well ... secret lists were given to her, for beautiful eyes ... well, they passed the list of those who left, the unprofitable ...

      There are the main questions on the Jewish pogroms in Iraq, Syria and Egypt. Perhaps Soviet agents were able to gain access to the names of the organizers of the massacres.
      1. Masya masya
        Masya masya 1 December 2018 10: 10
        +4
        Aron, with all due respect to you, they took it and gave it like that ... don’t tell my slippers ...
        put yourself in our place, would you give?
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          1. Yodzakura
            Yodzakura 1 December 2018 11: 26
            0
            What are the ones that poured gasoline into bottles in Odessa and Odessa is a Russian city
    3. XXXIII
      XXXIII 1 December 2018 22: 40
      +1
      Quote: Masya Masya
      oh well ... secret lists were given to her, for beautiful eyes...

      Where?! smile
      reality

      photo shop
  8. Fedorov
    Fedorov 1 December 2018 09: 59
    +4
    Gila Gamliel appealed to the Russian authorities with a request to open the archives of the USSR special services and intelligence for Israel. This, according to Gamliel, is necessary for "studying the life of Jews in Arab countries.

    Fake smells concrete. Here the Russian professors are not given access, but here they are practically the enemy. Doubtful news. And about the life of Jews in the USSR did not ask a question? Where did the defense ministers come from, and many who came from ...?
    1. brigadier
      brigadier 1 December 2018 10: 08
      +1
      Everything is clear with the Jews of the USSR. You will deal with your president Poroshenko and then worry about the Jews in the USSR.
      Quote: Fedorov
      Gila Gamliel appealed to the Russian authorities with a request to open the archives of the USSR special services and intelligence for Israel. This, according to Gamliel, is necessary for "studying the life of Jews in Arab countries.

      Fake smells concrete. Here the Russian professors are not given access, but here they are practically the enemy. Doubtful news. And about the life of Jews in the USSR did not ask a question? Where did the defense ministers come from, and many who came from ...?
      1. Fedorov
        Fedorov 1 December 2018 11: 03
        0
        You can figure it out, but Trump delivers the ball (continues). And then Merkel (a woman in trousers) flashes both Oland and Macron, and not only, I’m not talking about Poland and the Baltic states .. Shoot, or what? (I didn’t even know that I had such an opportunity) so it’s in their hand, it will come even worse, like Yarosh.
  9. ul_vitalii
    ul_vitalii 1 December 2018 10: 02
    0
    ... "is necessary for" studying the life of Jews in Arab countries. "
    Probably they want to write a book. laughing
  10. Examenatornick
    Examenatornick 1 December 2018 10: 03
    +1
    each country rewrites history for itself as it suits it.
  11. ANCIENT
    ANCIENT 1 December 2018 10: 08
    +1
    Or maybe they just copy all the archives, including secret ones, and give them away for free? fool arrogance rolls over am until they officially acknowledge their guilt for the air submarine, not a single Israeli official will be allowed to enter the country closely am minus this decision is to put in the archives this Madame from Israel fool
  12. taiga2018
    taiga2018 1 December 2018 10: 11
    +8
    Jewish lobby works ...
  13. Snail N9
    Snail N9 1 December 2018 10: 39
    +4
    What is this, some strange fuss? "On request" .... I am surprised only by the fact that such persons from the "Promised Land" still do not open the doors in the Kremlin with their feet, as in his time, Bereza did it ... winked
    1. aristok
      aristok 1 December 2018 12: 24
      +2
      Quote: Snail N9
      I am surprised only by the fact that such persons from the "promised land" still do not open the doors in the Kremlin with their feet

      but why did you decide that they don’t open it?
  14. Graz
    Graz 1 December 2018 11: 08
    0
    something ours is too generous, if true, no one will give us access to their archives
  15. ZVS
    ZVS 1 December 2018 11: 28
    +4
    The people calmed down and forgot about their murdered sons, now you can again lay the red carpet in Russia for the Jews.
  16. RL
    RL 1 December 2018 14: 06
    -1
    If not for her, then it is necessary to open for their citizens. True, not everyone will like the truth, and many legends will cease to exist. And then what to do?
  17. XXXIII
    XXXIII 1 December 2018 22: 24
    0
    Media: Israeli scientists were given access to the segment of the archives of the special services and intelligence of the USSR.

    Doctors are everything, permission is obtained such access only from the intelligence itself, and our intelligence without the confirmation of the sovereign’s superior persons can only give a scientific pendel ..... storytellers, however .... smile hi
    The Israeli Embassy opens an exhibition in Moscow on November 30 dedicated to the departure and expulsion of Jews from Arab countries and Iran. The purpose of the exhibition is to recall the mass migration of the Jewish population in the late 40s of the 900th century, which is remembered less often than the fate of Palestinian refugees. Then the Arab population left the territory of Israel, and about 700 thousand Jews were forced to flee from the Arab countries and Iran. About XNUMX thousand immigrated to Israel, and the rest - to Europe, the USA and Canada.
  18. Skifotavr
    Skifotavr 2 December 2018 14: 53
    0
    Betrayal of pure water.
  19. Victor1
    Victor1 3 December 2018 11: 18
    0
    the corrupt government and officials do not care about the honor and interests of Russia,
    Yes, and about the downed plane in the Kremlin have long forgotten ...
    some kind of circus with a clowning happens ..