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Levada Center: The number of Russians approving the transfer of the Kuriles to Japan has grown

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RBC Information Service, citing the latest data from a survey carried out Levada Center, reports on the nature of public opinion in Russia about the signing of a peace treaty with Japan. In the survey, the Levada Center, which continues to disagree with the status of an inoagent NGO, was interested in the opinion of Russians both about Japan itself and about the “possibility of transferring the Kuril Islands to Tokyo’s jurisdiction”.


Levada Center: The number of Russians approving the transfer of the Kuriles to Japan has grown


If you believe the publication, over the past two years, the number of Russians who have a “let them take” point of view regarding Japan and Southern Kuriles has grown from 7% to 17%. It is 17% of respondents, as stated in the material, said they are ready to support the transfer of the islands of Japan.

From 48% to 61%, the number of Russians who, according to representatives of the Levada Center, have a positive attitude towards Japan, has grown.

At the same time, it was noted that only 19% of respondents were closely watching the “problem of the Kuril Islands”, and 49% of respondents stated that “they heard something about it”. 31% of respondents reported that they learned about the "problem" only from the interviewers themselves.

And this is the case when it’s difficult to disagree with 31%. From the presented data it is not clear for whom the situation suddenly became a “problem”. Russia has no problems with the Kuriles, and if this is a problem for Japan, then the representatives of the Levada Center would have to go to Japan and conduct a survey among the local population.

The most interesting thing is that the service of sociological monitoring at the moment does not give the opinion of the residents of the South Kuriles themselves.

Recall that a previously conducted survey in Japan by the local monitoring services showed the following: only 5% of respondents said that Japan "must accept the return of two islands." Many respondents believe that "Russia needs to" seek the return of the 4's islands, "called Tokyo's northern territories."

In fact, all these publications, which state about the growth of "loyalty" of Russians on the transfer of the islands to the Japanese, look like a manipulation of public opinion.
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  1. Svarog
    Svarog 30 November 2018 09: 28
    +74
    Some obvious delirium is gathering up the bleach, if they began to sing such songs, they really decided to give them away ... Moreover, there is a positive attitude towards Japan and the transfer of the islands, how can one compare the soft with the warm ..
    1. Gray brother
      Gray brother 30 November 2018 09: 31
      +32
      Quote: Svarog
      Some obvious delirium is collecting blevity, which 61%, since they began to sing such songs, they really decided to give them away ...

      They conducted a survey on Echo Matsy, the local people may have decided to give it, but no one will give it to them.
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 30 November 2018 09: 39
        +39
        Quote: Gray Brother
        Quote: Svarog
        Some obvious delirium is collecting blevity, which 61%, since they began to sing such songs, they really decided to give them away ...

        They conducted a survey on Echo Matsy, the local people may have decided to give it, but no one will give it to them.

        I rely on this, although what is not clear there, Zakharova, for example, is friends with Venediktov ..

        There, all this audience in a single ecstasy merged .. They rub one nation, but they themselves have a strong friendship ..
        1. Gray brother
          Gray brother 30 November 2018 09: 41
          +1
          Quote: Svarog
          I look forward to it, although what is not clear there

          The audience of the resource is listeners / readers, patrons of the site, a local freak circus. Not Venediktov was interrogated.
          1. AUL
            AUL 30 November 2018 10: 25
            +22
            Well, seriously discussing the findings of the puke is a futile exercise. I remember 76% ... Public opinion is simply being prepared for a decision on the islands.
            1. Stas157
              Stas157 30 November 2018 11: 11
              +11
              When Putin said that it was possible to return to the discussion of the transfer of the islands on the basis of the declaration of 56, some of the especially odious "patriots" immediately changed their shoes in the air:
              The number of Russians approving the transfer of the Kuril Islands to Japan has increased

              Putin’s word has amazing power, sometimes it affects not only public opinion, but also stock quotes and the ruble exchange rate.
              1. Shurik70
                Shurik70 30 November 2018 12: 56
                +5
                Yes, the question. Where and from whom was the survey conducted?
                And then you can bring up to 50%. The main thing is to choose the right audience.
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 30 November 2018 18: 10
                  +4
                  Definitely, Levada hangs out its polls by attracting professors from Russian universities who are on grants, and those on their part - by attracting their students as interviewers to collect polls among respondents.

                  I was once interrogated by such students for some reason. At that time, I just found out the whole system that the students had the task of their teachers to take, as far as possible, interviews only from people with a predetermined desired answer result. Otherwise, the questionnaire was torn and thrown out. They did this either for a small bribe, or at the expense of the subject.
                  In general, the survey was immediately adjusted to a predetermined "top" result, and was not conducted the way it should be conducted. Students, too, in droves on friendship filled out the questionnaires in a way that someone wanted from “above”.
                  1. Boris Nevzorov
                    Boris Nevzorov 1 December 2018 04: 16
                    +3
                    This is the first time I hear about the Levada Center poll: The number of Russians approving the transfer of the Kuriles to Japan has grown ... laughing

                    Honestly, when I hear about the "Levada Center", I am drawn, forgive me for this slang, to blues, no more. negative
                    Levada Center is a foreign center of false statistics.
                    On September 5, 2016, the Analytical Center of Yuri Levada was included in the register of non-profit organizations performing the functions of a foreign agent by the Ministry of Justice of the Russian Federation. Levada Center management said it would appeal the decision.

                    The decision to recognize the “independent” Levada Center as a foreign agent was made after an unscheduled documentary check by the Main Department of the Ministry of Justice of Russia for Moscow.
              2. Siberian
                Siberian 30 November 2018 13: 46
                -1
                When Putin said that it was possible to return to the discussion of the transfer of the islands on the basis of the declaration of 56, some of the especially odious "patriots" immediately changed their shoes in the air:
                More specifically, you can exactly who, names if you know, and so an empty chatter. Question to Stas157
          2. Thunderbolt
            Thunderbolt 30 November 2018 15: 22
            -1
            Quote: Gray Brother
            Not Venediktov was interrogated.

            There is no Venediktov, at that time he treated his kidneys in the fertile waters of the Dead Sea. Therefore, as for your
            Quote: Gray Brother
            They are on Echo Matzah
            no, not there they were interviewing, but here ___
            The survey was conducted on November 22-28, 2018 on a representative all-Russian sample of urban and rural population of 1600 people aged 18 years and older in 136 settlements, 52 constituent entities of the Russian Federation. The study is conducted at the respondent’s home by personal interviews. Https: //www.levada.ru/2018/11/30/rossijsko-yaponskie-otnosheniya/
            And by the way, I don’t know who they were interviewing there, but I also have my own sociological center --- communication with colleagues and acquaintances is called. As it was 100% for "Kurils-Russian land" and remained. Or rather, even 120% of the sample my acquaintances have become for the sovereignty of Russia over these islands. Therefore, I do not understand at all why the authorities are driving themselves into a trap and lowering their reting, because in the proverb to "The Kuriles are Russian land!" Many of my respondents said with gusto that there was a reason for such conversations, and that all the "good" things were added to the highly intelligent boyars and their chief.
        2. Servisinzhener
          Servisinzhener 30 November 2018 09: 52
          +10
          Kremlin propagandist strangling free press laughing
        3. PalBor
          PalBor 30 November 2018 10: 27
          +22
          Well, a girl in the rank of deputy minister "nails" the terrible Soviet past to the whole world, stigmatizes the tyrant Stalin with a tremor in her voice, "who destroyed his people by millions" ... In the kitchen, as a private person, vilify whatever you want, but as a high-ranking state official ?! Sorry.
          Either there are no brains or the true face showed.
      2. pros000007
        pros000007 30 November 2018 09: 52
        +18
        Ehe Matsy - funded by Gazprom, it has long been known, Gazprom even confirmed
        1. Sirocco
          Sirocco 30 November 2018 13: 32
          +5
          Quote: pro000007
          Ehe Matsy - funded by Gazprom, it has long been known

          To date, all the Russian media are funded by oligarchs, or from the filing of these, brains shit like brothers Ukrainians, no less. So we are head over heels in a compost pit, and we won’t know the truth. Well, I agree with the theory of transferring the islands, it’s like the Overton Window, slowly we’ll throw in what we’ll get used to, then I think there will be delegations visiting the islands by the Japanese, we will also make noise, then the Japanese will build a fish processing workshop on one of the islands, again who it will make a noise, someone is already gone, since it will work there, and then finita la comedy. As an option. Not suicides hehe our authorities?
        2. SGarnik
          SGarnik 30 November 2018 17: 14
          +2
          Gazprom is 38% owned by Russia.
          https://greeden.livejournal.com/558446.html
          What did you want? Everything goes according to the plan of the Guarantor, a patriot, so to speak, who is surrounded by irreplaceable winked incompetent managers. winked It looks like zugzwang.
        3. mojohed2012
          mojohed2012 30 November 2018 18: 02
          +2
          So, Miller does have a certain relation to matzo. And why are you surprised. In the same synagogue with a broom go and Masha like them ...
      3. Polite Moose
        Polite Moose 30 November 2018 10: 05
        +17
        Quote: Gray Brother
        They conducted a survey on Echo Matsy, the local people may have decided to give it, but no one will give it to them.

        They could conduct a survey anywhere, even in the Kremlin. 17% - FOR transferring the islands ... And sho? Not so long ago, 90% of Russians were against pension reform. And sho?
        1. GRF
          GRF 30 November 2018 10: 21
          +7
          Quote: Polite Moose
          Quote: Gray Brother
          They conducted a survey on Echo Matsy, the local people may have decided to give it, but no one will give it to them.

          They could conduct a survey anywhere, even in the Kremlin. 17% - FOR transferring the islands ... And sho? Not so long ago, 90% of Russians were against pension reform. And sho?

          Yes, there are a lot of indignants here, but in fact, they will want to pass it on, they will pass it on, and no one will really be indignant ....
          Because the people here do not require much of their rights to control the country (it is precisely for this that they’re slandering, including here, even often without realizing it).
          The people must approve the privatization of state property, a change in territorial integrity.
          The results of the fulfillment of election promises, as well as other laws that were not in the election program of the elect.

          But he ... .... .... ... ... ... ... how can he think of himself?
          That's how it can protect the state this way, no - it should, but how to answer for yourself like that .......
      4. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 30 November 2018 11: 04
        +1
        Quote: Gray Brother
        They conducted a survey on Echo Matsy, the local people may have decided to give it, but no one will give it to them.

        On Echo livestock will not be enough. Most likely, the survey was conducted among former Russians in London, Israel and Brighton Beach. They are generally ready not just for the islands, but for the whole of Russia.
    2. rocket757
      rocket757 30 November 2018 09: 35
      +14
      Where to conduct a survey? With us, just try to propose, they will immediately send or threaten us .... they are not recorded in the statistics. And one and a half freak who shook everything or the brain is shaken up to the state of the disappearance of thought processes, don’t offer sho, just promise at least sho.
      will not give us a ride "we will give up the islands", rather it will fly to the face for such an offer!
      1. The black
        The black 30 November 2018 09: 37
        +9
        If you believe the publication,
        And who can you believe there? smile.... The Levada Center is recognized as a "foreign agent" because it is funded by the American University of Wisconsin, so it's strange that 17% wrote, not 97% laughing
        1. The black
          The black 30 November 2018 09: 45
          +16
          The number of Russians increased from 48% to 61%
          so what? ... I also have a normal attitude towards Japs, they look after Tamagotchi, but the Kuril Islands give them figs with oil laughing
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 30 November 2018 10: 43
            +2
            Quote: Black
            they take care of tamagotchi,

            Is it such a thing with 90's buttons? I thought they all died long ago.
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 30 November 2018 17: 20
              0
              Quote: Mordvin 3
              Is it such a thing with 90's buttons? I thought they all died long ago.

              Yes, they died ... some who were choked with their vital products, some from hunger, and some from the fact that they did not change their diaper at the right time and did not play with them. By the way, there are still citizens in Japan who raise and educate these tamagotchi. wassat
          2. NEXUS
            NEXUS 30 November 2018 17: 17
            -1
            Quote: Black
            Kuril them figs with butter

            Can they still spread gooseberry jam over their backs with a thick layer, along with the return of the Kuril Islands?
        2. Borisovich
          Borisovich 30 November 2018 10: 15
          +4
          Quote: Black
          .Levada Center is recognized as a "foreign agent",

        3. Roman070280
          Roman070280 30 November 2018 10: 29
          +2
          Yes, whoever he was recognized, but the numbers in the survey look quite real to themselves .. And this is important, but who does not sponsor anyone ..
        4. aleks26
          aleks26 30 November 2018 11: 40
          +1
          Quote: Black
          so it’s strange that 17% wrote, not 97%

          Could and 97%, easy! It would just be suspicious. The choice of the target audience + the correct formulation of the question and you get what kind of result you need. Well, who else controls these polls? No one! And no one bears responsibility for the reliability of the results. This is a public organization, what to take from it ..
      2. Altona
        Altona 30 November 2018 10: 40
        +16
        Quote: rocket757
        will not give us a ride "we will give up the islands", rather it will fly to the face for such an offer!

        --------------------
        This is from a series of 146% for Putin and 72% "approving the pension reform." Sheer nonsense.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 30 November 2018 11: 04
          -2
          This is from the STALINGRAD series! We will not give up an inch of our native land to the enemy.
          Times, conditions are changing, the mentality remains!
          Our Motherland is always calling! And you?
          PS and what does the GDP and others like it have to do with it .... we have a "red" belt, although those guys who seem to be "red" do a lot of Schaub and they were piled up with the rest!
          1. Altona
            Altona 30 November 2018 12: 03
            +5
            Quote: rocket757
            And you?

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            I'm talking about the survey, not about you. About your "spans" I have already seen enough of the pension reform. You are yelling, but it’s not easy to go out and defend the gains of socialism.
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 30 November 2018 12: 13
              -1
              This is the mentality. We do not know how to stand up for anything ... we are tearing the veins for our homeland and are ready to lay down our lives.
              I have already tried and received, in-kind. And you?
              1. Altona
                Altona 30 November 2018 12: 20
                +2
                Quote: rocket757
                I have already tried and received, in-kind. And you?

                --------------------
                I went to rallies. Communicated with people. The strangest thing is that the old people protested mainly, and not their children. And there were very harsh language addressed to all involved, including the president.
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 30 November 2018 12: 53
                  +1
                  Veterans, our pensioners have been offended! The upper ones here have shown the very essence of the "animal grin" ts. ... it turns out that now it is the "former Soviet" who just never learned to stand up for themselves are suffering extremely ... there were such times then, it was not so important to "fight" for their own interests!
                  No revolutionary experience t.s.
                  Young people here are not particularly legible, too, because they are learning from someone who has read or read what, they have seen enough! There is no that important training, which is an example of fathers and mothers, because there is nothing to pass on to parents on this topic!
                  That's who we can say to our descendants - Go son / daughter to the barricade and defend your and my rights!
                  Maximum, I can say - Take the son of a machine gun \ rocket and go beat the heap there, I don’t know where!
                  There we have a hell, but now we would have in our country the order and the truth are separated, which is probably much more important.
    3. Varreox
      Varreox 30 November 2018 09: 44
      -22
      Well xs, I now know a lot of people who would like to resolve all conflicts around the Russian Federation, even at the cost of concessions. If there are no such people around you, this does not mean that they do not exist at all.

      And, it is thought that the farther from Moscow time, the more there will be those who do not want to sit under sanctions and suffer other problems due to the fact that they wander into the head of someone there in Moscow, whom they have never even seen live . At least in my city, a thousand + km from the capital, such opinions are popular. Ah, yes, Astrakhan, even in tsarist times, was an exiled city, where did the happy center come from.
      1. stalki
        stalki 30 November 2018 09: 50
        +13
        And, it is thought that the farther from Moscow time, the more there will be those who do not want to sit under sanctions and suffer other problems due to the fact that they wander into the head of someone there in Moscow, whom they have never even seen live . At least in my city, a thousand + km from the capital, such opinions are popular. Ah, yes, Astrakhan, even in tsarist times, was an exiled city, where did the happy center come from.
        You don’t hang people’s noodles, no one will ever take sanctions from us. And the islands, if VV wants to lose the last trust of the Russians, let him only hint about surrender.
        1. Varreox
          Varreox 30 November 2018 09: 58
          -17
          "I look in a book, I see a Whig"
          It's not just about the islands. The point is that it is necessary to put up and improve relations with all and not give rise to new conflicts. And this is a whole range of various measures.
          Look at the same Roizman, lucidly explains what certain actions of the Russian Federation are fraught with and why this cannot be done. Or is he, in your opinion, also a scumbag from the street? The former mayor of Yekaterinburg, the city of a millionaire, I note, moreover, legally elected by the people, in contrast to the current mayor.
          1. stalki
            stalki 30 November 2018 09: 59
            +5
            I already talked about noodles above.
          2. your1970
            your1970 30 November 2018 12: 41
            +4
            Quote: Varreox
            "I look in a book, I see a Whig"
            It's not just about the islands. The point is that it is necessary to put up and improve relations with all and not give rise to new conflicts. And this is a whole range of various measures.
            Sanctions by Jackson Vanik when canceled? in 2012 year !!!! And for what they imposed? and for what USSR Jews did not let out to Israel!!! which already 20 (twenty, Karl !!!!!)years left freely ...
            And who cared in the USA that the USSR no 20 years and Jews freely travel the world ......
            But no, no one rushed to cancel sanctions in 1992, let them say ...
          3. voffchik7691
            voffchik7691 30 November 2018 12: 42
            +1
            "Look at the same Roizman"

            And also gozman, amnuel, sytin ...
        2. aleks26
          aleks26 30 November 2018 11: 48
          +3
          Quote: stalki
          And the islands, if VV wants to lose the last trust of the Russians, let him only hint about surrender.

          Unfortunately, this is not so much about the islands, but about access to the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, and this is a loss of huge money, a loss of strategic positions, a precedent - they will be followed by a demand for the surrender of Kaliningrad, part of Karelia, Smolensk region, and even the Kuban.
          Well xs, I now know a lot of people who would like to resolve all conflicts around the Russian Federation, even at the cost of concessions.

          Well, brainless in Russia has always been in bulk, not without it.
          1. Altona
            Altona 30 November 2018 14: 17
            +1
            Quote: aleks26
            Unfortunately, this is not so much about the islands, but about access to the Sea of ​​Okhotsk,

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            In general, in such a crude way in the form of a "poll" the population is being prepared for the surrender of the islands to Japan. Apparently in exchange for some kind of personal guarantees and preferences.
      2. Svarog
        Svarog 30 November 2018 10: 01
        +16
        Quote: Varreox
        Well xs, I now know a lot of people who would like to resolve all conflicts around the Russian Federation, even at the cost of concessions. If there are no such people around you, this does not mean that they do not exist at all.

        This is where such people in Ukraine?
        Quote: Varreox
        And, it is thought that the farther from Moscow time, the more there will be those who do not want to sit under sanctions and suffer other problems due to the fact that they wander into the head of someone there in Moscow

        Sanctions have nothing to do with it at all .. We have always been under sanctions and so what, now to distribute all the lands for which the blood of our grandfathers was shed? For us, it’s not sanctions that are hit, but the mediocre leadership ..
        1. Machito
          Machito 30 November 2018 10: 29
          -4
          Quote: Svarog
          Quote: Varreox
          Well xs, I now know a lot of people who would like to resolve all conflicts around the Russian Federation, even at the cost of concessions. If there are no such people around you, this does not mean that they do not exist at all.

          This is where such people in Ukraine?
          Quote: Varreox
          And, it is thought that the farther from Moscow time, the more there will be those who do not want to sit under sanctions and suffer other problems due to the fact that they wander into the head of someone there in Moscow

          Sanctions have nothing to do with it at all .. We have always been under sanctions and so what, now to distribute all the lands for which the blood of our grandfathers was shed? For us, it’s not sanctions that are hit, but the mediocre leadership ..

          It's time to collect Russian lands back. Crimea returned. Little Russia is on the line. It remains only to drown Ukraine.
          1. You Vlad
            You Vlad 30 November 2018 10: 36
            +3
            Quote: Bearded
            It remains only to drown Ukraine.

            You are not a respected (or du-k) or provocateur No.
            1. Machito
              Machito 30 November 2018 12: 13
              -4
              Do you think that elections will be held in Ukraine and they will wave it all together? The fascists can only be driven out by force.
              The default of Ukraine is beneficial to New Russia and Russia. When Ukrainians on the Donbass front cease to give out salaries and feed, they themselves will run to Europe for cookies.
          2. Altona
            Altona 30 November 2018 12: 05
            +3
            Quote: Bearded
            Little Russia is on the line. It remains only to drown Ukraine.

            --------------------
            The next step is for ordinary people to realize that they are being fooled by the Poroshenko, Putin, Nazarbayevs and others, and the "equidistant" oligarchs standing behind them.
        2. You Vlad
          You Vlad 30 November 2018 10: 39
          +1
          Quote: Svarog
          For us, it’s not sanctions that strike, but the mediocre leadership.

          Rather, we are being sanctioned for our mediocre leadership, you wanted to say that? Is it logical, no?
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 30 November 2018 11: 47
            +4
            Quote: you Vlad
            Quote: Svarog
            For us, it’s not sanctions that strike, but the mediocre leadership.

            Rather, we are being sanctioned for our mediocre leadership, you wanted to say that? Is it logical, no?

            Especially for you .. Our leadership is mediocre social, economic policy, what is mediocrity? The fact that we, like 20 years ago, were sitting on oil and gas, we are sitting .. For 20 years, we could not give birth to anything and this is also understandable, corruption and nepotism are widespread, it is not possible to do anything at all in such conditions .. Take Rusnano, where are the results? How much money was spent? And who is punished? Well, about social policy, it’s generally here ... it’s essentially a violation of the Constitution .. The state is taking away all social obligations .. Where is the referendum on pension reform?
            1. You Vlad
              You Vlad 30 November 2018 12: 03
              0
              Quote: Svarog
              Especially for you ..

              I'm so flattered hi So, according to your Western sanctions, we are like a pellet to an elephant? The USSR is no longer there! And it's all to blame, well, you know ..
              Quote: Svarog
              The fact that we, like 20 years ago, were sitting on oil and gas, we are sitting .. For 20 years, we could not give birth to anything and this is also understandable, corruption and nepotism are widespread, it is not possible to do anything at all in such conditions ..

              Twenty-five again, have you at least enlightened yourself or something that is being produced in Russia!
              Quote: Svarog
              Take Rusnano, where are the results?

              Where? Well, find them, why should I look for you?
              In 2016, Rusnano took a new frontier: the total value of its assets (138,8 billion) and revenue from the sale of shares in projects (49,2 billion) exceeded the volume of investments during its existence (186,3 billion), that is, formally the corporation paid for itself. Rusnano approached this mark in stages: by the end of 2013, its efficiency (the ratio of the value of the portfolio and receipts to the spent funds) was 76%, in a year - 86%, in 2015 - 97%. This was due to an increase in revenues from exits from companies that were strong enough to go further on their own. This trend will continue: in 2018, Rusnano expects a twofold superiority of income over investments.
              1. Svarog
                Svarog 30 November 2018 12: 28
                +3
                Quote: You Vlad
                Where? Well, find them, why should I look for you?
                In 2016, Rusnano took a new frontier: the total value of its assets (138,8 billion) and revenue from the sale of shares in projects (49,2 billion) exceeded the volume of investments during its existence (186,3 billion), that is, formally the corporation paid for itself. Rusnano approached this mark in stages: by the end of 2013, its efficiency (the ratio of the value of the portfolio and receipts to the spent funds) was 76%, in a year - 86%, in 2015 - 97%. This was due to an increase in revenues from exits from companies that were strong enough to go further on their own. This trend will continue: in 2018, Rusnano expects a twofold superiority of income over investments.

                Manipulating investments is not an indicator of a company's success .. Will you show me which product was invented by this organization, which is in demand in the world, what are they doing? Chubais’s latest invention was an electric bike that spent 10 lard on and should cost like a good foreign car ..
            2. your1970
              your1970 30 November 2018 12: 44
              -1
              Quote: Svarog
              In the fact that we, like 20 years ago, were sitting on oil and gas, so are we sitting ..
              I’ll tell you a secret and 30 and 40 and 50 years ago were sitting exactly on the same
              "Gas-Pipes" remember in 60 there was such a story?
              1. Svarog
                Svarog 30 November 2018 13: 15
                -1
                Quote: your1970
                I’ll tell you a secret and 30 and 40 and 50 years ago were sitting exactly on the same

                and I’ll tell you a secret, 30,40 years ago we were the second economy in the world, we had the best education, advanced science ..
                1. your1970
                  your1970 30 November 2018 16: 28
                  0
                  Quote: Svarog
                  and I’ll tell you a secret, 30,40 years ago we were the second economy in the world, we had the best education, advanced science ..
                  I also lived in the USSR and is aware that we have never been a second economy. In certain sectors, they could, in general, are guaranteed not
                  1. Red_Baron
                    Red_Baron 30 November 2018 17: 17
                    +1
                    You probably haven’t heard that 30-40 years ago, capitalism decayed and the ghost roamed Europe? Maybe you are not scolding the government now, if only because it is the power and you are not? Svarog take mister in development, there is an opinion that he has a British passport!
            3. Claymore
              Claymore 30 November 2018 13: 23
              0
              Quote: Svarog
              Our leadership is mediocre social, economic policy, what is mediocrity? In the fact that we, like 20 years ago, were sitting on oil and gas, so we are sitting

              Mediocrity, in this context, is the inability to achieve the goal.

              What makes you think that the goal of the leadership of the Russian Federation is to stop sitting on oil and gas?
          2. Svarog
            Svarog 30 November 2018 12: 32
            +1
            Quote: you Vlad
            Quote: Svarog
            For us, it’s not sanctions that strike, but the mediocre leadership.

            Rather, we are being sanctioned for our mediocre leadership, you wanted to say that? Is it logical, no?

            Here is a man in plain language explains what the lack of talent of our government ..
      3. solzh
        solzh 30 November 2018 10: 05
        +18
        Sorry, but you wrote nonsense. I live almost "1000 miles" from Moscow in Ulyanovsk and we do not care about Western sanctions, but we have one opinion about the smokers: the Kurils are ours! and point! And let Japan go through the forest!
        1. Roman070280
          Roman070280 30 November 2018 10: 36
          -12
          Бгг ..)) "We have one opinion on smokers" Do you have it?
          Believe me .. most of these Kuril Islands do not care ..
          Here I am from Voronezh .. I didn’t conduct any polls, of course .. But I have no doubt that half of those around me don’t even know that there is any problem with them .. And if Putin gives something to someone tomorrow, this half of the population will not even notice anything .. or decide that it should be so ..

          Shl .. on this "patriotic" site, perhaps, such figures do not fit well in the heads of uryakalok .. But in the head of some kind of thread of a woman Nyura from Zazhpinsk with a population of 0 people, and a pension of 600tyrov - the Kurils occupy the same place as and Miami ..
          1. solzh
            solzh 30 November 2018 10: 54
            +9
            Quote: Roman070280
            Believe me .. most of these Kuril Islands do not care ..

            Believe me, the majority of the population of our country are patriots and love their homeland very much.
            P.S. on their own people are not judged...
            1. Roman070280
              Roman070280 30 November 2018 11: 26
              -3
              I wrote to you exactly about this .. and you keep talking "we have one opinion" ..))
              1. solzh
                solzh 30 November 2018 11: 35
                +5
                What did you write to me? That you still give the Kuril Japs or not? So I realized that you are a complete liberoid. Just I do not understand why you expose your intelligence to the whole Runet?
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                2. Roman070280
                  Roman070280 30 November 2018 14: 12
                  -2
                  You don’t understand a damn thing ..))
                  And do not be jealous in those cases when you discover intelligence in someone .. you would be better worried about yours .. otherwise the points are wider - there is no opinion left ..))
                  1. Red_Baron
                    Red_Baron 30 November 2018 17: 29
                    +1
                    Well, actually, he wrote you right. Do you think people are stupid cattle who do not see anything further than the price of potatoes and would like to spit on their homeland and betray it without even noticing if they give free sausages.
                    1. Roman070280
                      Roman070280 3 December 2018 12: 13
                      -2
                      Dumb cattle, in fact, it is considered to be those who do not care about both potatoes and gasoline .. The main thing is for them, if only Krymnash, Kurilinash, Alaskanash .. And this has nothing to do with love for the Motherland !! We have 99% have never been to the Kuril Islands, will not. and they won’t even find it on the map ..
                      A potato .. why didn’t it please you ?? Everybody eats a potato !!
                      And I say not as I think, but as I see .. If the Homeland does not give a person even sausages .. it is worth thinking about this topic ..
                      1. Red_Baron
                        Red_Baron 3 December 2018 16: 25
                        +1
                        I don’t know who you are considered to be stupid cattle. You have all the people of the liberal intelligentsia - this is such a different bunch. And this is directly related to the love of the motherland. The most direct. Those who love the Motherland rejoice with her when the Motherland is well and grieving for its losses.
                        Someone was not in the Kuril Islands and what? He does not consider them part of the homeland? What else do we need to separate? Siberia, the Caucasus, the Urals, Altai? Many were not there.
                        Quote: Roman070280
                        And I say not as I think, but as I see

                        Sorry what? : D: D: D what do you see? You just wrote that most people do not know where the Kuril Islands are and spat on the Crimea, and now write to yourself that you see something. I do not want to disappoint you, but you see like all people at your level and in your circle. Moreover, watching does not mean seeing. Even if you visit the Kuril Islands, then from this you will no longer see, do you know how local life and tourism differ?
                        Quote: Roman070280
                        If the homeland does not give people even sausages .. it is worth thinking about this topic ..

                        Well, firstly, do not lie. Gives and much more.
                        Secondly, not everything is measured by sausage.
                        And thirdly, you, like your lovers of the homeland like you, do not value anything. For some reason, you don’t have enough culture or education. Think at your leisure - you can never pay only for your birth! For many years the formation of Soviet and then Russian medicine. But everyone always owes you.
      4. rocket757
        rocket757 30 November 2018 10: 07
        +8
        Quote: Varreox
        Ah, yes, Astrakhan, even in tsarist times, was an exiled city, where could we come from a satisfied center.

        And stop by to visit us in STALINGRAD, after all! Try offering to give one more inch of our land! Then they will send you home .... the people we have are so-so-so GOOD !!!
    4. Wolverine
      Wolverine 30 November 2018 09: 52
      +6
      Quote: Svarog
      Some obvious delirium is gathering up the bleach, if they began to sing such songs, they really decided to give them away ... Moreover, there is a positive attitude towards Japan and the transfer of the islands, how can one compare the soft with the warm ..

      Just like the elderly at the age of 65 they are just beginning to lead an active rhythm of life, they travel, engage in sports, in general for sure - they are blevishes.
    5. Detective
      Detective 30 November 2018 09: 57
      +5
      RBC, Levada Center ... HA, HA, HA !!! And what will Rain and Echo tell us ?! As for the rest, as you know, the problems of Japan and the Sheriff’s Japanese ... this is not the same - they don’t care!
    6. Kent0001
      Kent0001 30 November 2018 10: 00
      +13
      Ordering. 1000 pounds. We all have a contract with Yap. We lived without him and will still live.
    7. PDM80
      PDM80 30 November 2018 10: 00
      0
      Japs paid, they wrote. the question is where does the FSB look
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 30 November 2018 10: 12
        +1
        Okay. We were entertained, and besides, such expressions force people to keep their ears on top of their heads !!! Also useful!
      2. Roman070280
        Roman070280 30 November 2018 11: 28
        0
        You want to say, in fact, the problem of the Kuril Islands is not watched by 19%, but less ??))
    8. Machito
      Machito 30 November 2018 10: 26
      +2
      Quote: Svarog
      Some obvious delirium is gathering up the bleach, if they began to sing such songs, they really decided to give them away ... Moreover, there is a positive attitude towards Japan and the transfer of the islands, how can one compare the soft with the warm ..

      Levada interrogated white-collar workers on lists.
      According to my polls, 100% of Russians agree with the transfer of Alaska and San Francisco to Russia.
      1. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 30 November 2018 10: 50
        +1
        If you believe the publication, over the past two years, the number of Russians who have the point of view “yes let them take” regarding Japan and the South Kuril Islands has grown from 7% to 17%.

        Somehow it was immediately associated with:
        If you believe the publications, then over the past two years before the adoption of the pension reform, the number of Russians who have survived to 60 years has increased ...
    9. mavrus
      mavrus 30 November 2018 12: 23
      0
      Judging by the broadcasts of Russian TV, the number of "Judeo-liberals" in Russia is 10-13%.
      Plus a statistical error of 3-5%. So that one and the other figure fits.
    10. The Sparkle
      The Sparkle 30 November 2018 12: 35
      0
      To give up the islands is only the wet dream of the liberals, who are a minority / in every sense /. And we won’t give anything back to the Japanese.
    11. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 30 November 2018 13: 13
      +1
      Quote: Svarog

      What a blatant delirium is collecting

      and the president’s rating ...
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 30 November 2018 13: 28
        +3
        Quote: Andrew Y.
        Quote: Svarog

        What a blatant delirium is collecting

        and the president’s rating ...

        Here on the site you can regularly conduct a rating, a large audience, Levada and all sorts of others make a cut based on a survey of 1000 people, attend VO much more .. and so, when there were elections, 40% were only for Putin, and 77% were drawn to him, after of how he won and increased his retirement age, those who want him to remain president reduced to 20% .. I think that now this is his real rating ..
    12. private person
      private person 30 November 2018 14: 00
      +1
      This is not nonsense, it means ours are stirring something up and maybe they want to convey the truth. Against this background, they say they’re so desirous of pouring in their ears.
    13. Ham
      Ham 1 December 2018 08: 56
      0
      Quote: Svarog
      What a blatant delirium is collecting

      LEVADA - such a levada ...
      here the question is different: why is the data of this subversive organization regularly brought to the main HE?
  2. poquello
    poquello 30 November 2018 09: 28
    +2
    indeed, some levada
  3. Same lech
    Same lech 30 November 2018 09: 29
    +13
    Not well, what arrogant ... cheating with public opinion as they want ... here's a crook. am
    1. The black
      The black 30 November 2018 09: 42
      +6
      Quote: The same Lech
      Not well, what arrogant ... cheating with public opinion as they want ... here's a crook. am

      They do not cheat .... they give out their personal Wishlist, for our opinion smile
  4. scrap123
    scrap123 30 November 2018 09: 29
    +21
    That's the way the population is prepared for transmission ....
    1. Machito
      Machito 30 November 2018 10: 32
      +1
      Quote: scrap123
      That's the way the population is prepared for transmission ....

      We cannot be prepared for the sale of Russian land.
      Russia is therefore the largest country in the world, because Russians do not sell land.
      Where once the Russian flag was hoisted - it should not be lowered. (FROM)
      1. DEDPIHTO
        DEDPIHTO 30 November 2018 11: 28
        +5
        Quote: Bearded
        because the Russians do not sell land.
        ,, We Gussians do not deceive each other ,, (c) Remember the presidency of iPhone (godfather certainly not in business winked), there really is not land but water was, but nonetheless territory. With these hucksters, you can no longer be surprised at anything and now preparations are clearly in progress .... angry
      2. SGarnik
        SGarnik 30 November 2018 17: 59
        +1
        The phrase of Emperor Nicholas I: "Once we raise the Russian flag should not be lowered."

        Yes, there was a time of heroes and patriots.
  5. Vladivostok1969
    Vladivostok1969 30 November 2018 09: 30
    +4
    Does the author have a surname? The news smacks of provocation.
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 30 November 2018 10: 09
      +2
      Quote: Vladivostok1969
      Does the author have a last name?

      Levada is his last name.
  6. Olegater
    Olegater 30 November 2018 09: 31
    +4
    Fucked at the end of these nko-shnik. When they kick out with a kick, the people are scammed!
  7. Vlad 63
    Vlad 63 30 November 2018 09: 31
    0
    17% of those who agreed are the Zaputinians who were going to move to the Kuril Islands after they were transferred to Japan?
    1. Consultant
      Consultant 30 November 2018 09: 33
      +2
      Quote: Vlad 63
      17% of those who agreed are the Zaputinians who were going to move to the Kuril Islands after they were transferred to Japan?

      Uh-huh.

      And those who pretend to believe Levada are just trolls with whom a piece of delicious pass yes
      1. Vlad 63
        Vlad 63 30 November 2018 09: 39
        +2
        Oh, they promoted from a Vlasovite to a troll. Only I do not believe in interest not from the blevade, not from the VCIOM, not from the Federal State Statistics Service, and not from the CIC)))
        1. Consultant
          Consultant 30 November 2018 10: 05
          -1
          Quote: Vlad 63
          Oh, promoted from a Vlasov to a troll

          Do not rejoice. You are a weak troll, small and toothless.

          Quote: Vlad 63
          I do not believe in interest not from the puke not from vtsioma, not from Rosstat, and not from cic

          You did not study well at school. Or Russian is not your native. As for me, it’s more likely the second wink
          1. Vlad 63
            Vlad 63 30 November 2018 10: 19
            +1
            Don't you think it's better to be
            weak troll, small and toothless.
            than Vlasov. So there is definitely a reason for joy. repeat
            Well yes. Sinful. I'm talking about the language.
            Only now my grandmother told me that publicly pointing out such things is not ethical wink
            1. Consultant
              Consultant 30 November 2018 10: 30
              -3
              Quote: Vlad 63
              my grandmother told me that publicly pointing out such things is not ethical

              IMHO grandmother was just trying to console you. IMHO in vain she did it.
              1. Vlad 63
                Vlad 63 30 November 2018 10: 31
                +2
                This is only IMHO. )))
                1. Consultant
                  Consultant 30 November 2018 12: 46
                  -5
                  Quote: Vlad 63
                  This is only IMHO

                  The use of "IMHO" is an "occupational disease", by the nature of my work with very different people I have to communicate laughing

                  In your case, I have practically no doubts left.

                  Quote: Leshy1975
                  This is what the Consultant is, first of all, a troll

                  This is the one that Goblin is an irresponsible writer on the Internet. He really doesn’t know anything, but he undertakes to judge everything. When you press it, it begins to jam on scuffle, says that it is good at it.

                  He’s probably bored. Sorry for him.

                  IMHO, naturally.
                  1. Leshy1975
                    Leshy1975 30 November 2018 14: 11
                    +4
                    Quote: Consultant
                    Quote: Vlad 63
                    This is only IMHO

                    The use of "IMHO" is an "occupational disease", by the nature of my work with very different people I have to communicate laughing

                    In your case, I have practically no doubts left.

                    Quote: Leshy1975
                    This is what the Consultant is, first of all, a troll

                    This is the one that Goblin is an irresponsible writer on the Internet. He really doesn’t know anything, but he undertakes to judge everything. When you press it, it begins to jam on scuffle, says that it is good at it.

                    He’s probably bored. Sorry for him.

                    IMHO, naturally.

                    Well done, that confirmed my opinion of you as something that you can mess up with. Ready to take my words back if you quote where I argue that I am good at massacre fighting. (and if you hadn’t decided that I can do well, would you come?) Betrayal is the result of cowardice and meanness. And in that it is manifested that such something is capable of showing power only over a deliberately weaker and defenseless one. That you are your post, about yourself and confirmed.
                    1. Consultant
                      Consultant 30 November 2018 15: 08
                      -4
                      Quote: Leshy1975
                      Ready to take my words back if ...

                      I don’t care about your words. Keep them for yourself, young man.

                      Quote: Leshy1975
                      where I claim that I am good at massacre

                      Yes, constantly and everywhere. Aren't you there Ruslan (Rusland67) persistently offered a "duel"? Laurels of Zolotov do not give rest?

                      Quote: Leshy1975
                      such a thing is capable of showing power only over a deliberately weaker and defenseless one. What are you with your post, about yourself and confirmed

                      I am not a psychiatrist, and I do not comment on nonsense.
            2. Leshy1975
              Leshy1975 30 November 2018 12: 10
              +3
              Quote: Vlad 63
              Don't you think it's better to be
              weak troll, small and toothless.
              than Vlasov. So there is definitely a reason for joy. repeat
              Well yes. Sinful. I'm talking about the language.
              Only now my grandmother told me that publicly pointing out such things is not ethical wink

              Don't mess with him. This is the one that the Consultant, in the first place, is the troll. And secondly, as a person, just rubbish. I say this responsibly. I had a "conversation" with him a few days ago in the topic:
              "US Navy Strike Force Enters Mediterranean Sea." He showered me with the same "smart" and standard "arguments" - templates addressed to me: cockroaches in my head, nonsense and the like. This is understandable, troll. The question of principle, for me, came up about the inhabitants of Donbass, whom I considered and still consider to be Russians (of course, not only them, but the dispute concerned them), and that, in my opinion, the Minsk agreements are a set-up of people, and not a way out. He argued (with arguments about cockroaches in my head) that as now, it could not have been done better, and I was delirious. On my proposal to go there together, in my car, and on the spot to clarify what the residents of Donbass really think and which of us is smacking nonsense, jumped off the topic. Having surrounded with the next "arguments" that this will not be an experiment, but excrement, well, that's okay. Jumped off and jumped off. But then something Ruslan67 appeared in his support. Which smartly offered himself instead of the Consultant (for the trip). No, he did not defend either the Minsk agreements or anything at all. But on the other hand he clearly stated: "Come with me. On the territory of Russia, I explain to them that they are not expected here and they should have thought in 91 of the last century", as well as "On their own land I’ll definitely break the fraternal face and hand it over to the nearest department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs And let him explain to the SBU whose citizen he is"
              What am I doing this Ruslan67, also clearly stated that I consider the residents of Donbass, Ukraine (who himself admits that) Russians, and his traitor to the Russian people. And he suggested to him: "You can come to Voronezh, we will agree on a place, you will try to smash my face," as a representative of the Russian people, whom he longs to beat in the face and hand over to the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the SBU. And how did it come Ruslan67 to catch up with the force and the horror: "Assign a place I just warn you right away According to the VUS, I’ll come up from behind and leave without saying hello. I promise to drink 100 grams for the repose of my soul after a consultation with the Consultant", as well as:" HP between the shoulder blades from seven meters "and that he was taught this in the SA" As taught in the SA, I fit. "
              (when it was taught in the SA, betrayal, cowardice and meanness ?!)
              So that's it. This is Ruslan67, catching up with force and horror, with its coolness, but this is the Consultant, was spinning nearby (although the question did not concern him at all), joyfully squealing in his comments: "To go somewhere to Voronezh to stuff the devil's face - I am stupidly lazy. And in general, VO was not done to be rude and provoke on it (appoint "personal meetings", for example) no? "

              In the end, I got tired of hearing about the coolness of this Ruslan67, as well as waiting for them (with the Consultant) to drink everything that they planned (and how much more they will run for more), for my peace. And yesterday I drew the line: "So, traitor. Or you come and try to fulfill your promise to beat the Russians in the face (and you were going to go) and today you set the date when you will." ... ...
              "Otherwise, I will post screenshots of your chatter here on the site so that everyone can see who you are and what you are worth."
              Yesterday is long over, nobody appointed anything (apparently they continue to remember me),
              and I, as I said, demonstrate that they are two nothing: Ruslan67 and Consultant.
              (Leshy1975 keeps his word. Screens of "communication" with these something, if anyone does not believe, I can provide)

              PS Dear moderators. This post, please, in no case be considered a complaint to these participants, and mine the lowest please do not ban them. Me, as you decide, but the question for me was crucial, who is Russian and about betrayal (the desire to give the SBU).

              I have the honor.
              1. Vlad 63
                Vlad 63 30 November 2018 12: 49
                0
                Dear Goblin1975 hi
                You have set all the points.
                To my deepest regret, the flow of such thoughts about Russians in Ukraine takes place not only among similar characters, but also at the very top of the state hierarchy (judging by deeds, not words).
                Well, about
                betrayal, cowardice and meanness
                not only in the SA, but also in the RA, so far these qualities are not in honor. Inscriptions on BMPkhs of federal forces in white paint "Only a coward shoots in the back" during the Chechen campaigns. And in childhood, in the courtyards on the street, beating from the sly was considered a disgusting act. Maybe normal now?
                All the best hi
                1. Leshy1975
                  Leshy1975 30 November 2018 14: 46
                  0
                  Quote: Vlad 63
                  Dear Goblin1975 hi
                  You have set all the points.
                  To my deepest regret, the flow of such thoughts about Russians in Ukraine takes place not only among similar characters, but also at the very top of the state hierarchy (judging by deeds, not words).
                  Well, about
                  betrayal, cowardice and meanness
                  not only in the SA, but also in the RA, so far these qualities are not in honor. Inscriptions on BMPkhs of federal forces in white paint "Only a coward shoots in the back" during the Chechen campaigns. And in childhood, in the courtyards on the street, beating from the sly was considered a disgusting act. Maybe normal now?
                  All the best hi

                  I totally agree. Neither in the SA, nor in the RA (nor in Russian society as a whole) have such qualities been brought up and do not bring up. And if ever, such times will come that in the territory that we relate to Russia, such qualities have become respected and demanded by the society as a whole, and not by separate layers, then Russia has long ceased to exist. Yes, such attempts to reformat the mentality and self-awareness of the people are now being made. And the war for the minds is on. But this war is not lost at all.
                  All the best to you. hi
              2. Red_Baron
                Red_Baron 30 November 2018 13: 17
                -1
                If the conversation goes on, I’ll stuff it, then this is definitely the level of people who are not healthy on my head.

                And as for the Consultant, I am not aware of your correspondence, and even if I read it, I will see it in my own way. But I understand him and in some ways he is right.
                You understand the point of view of others. That's even in this thread, I wrote to people about something in my head.
                Just imagine, go into the topic and see how such a good percentage ... mmm ... well, let there be people writing such wild nonsense that it’s just PPC. And I, too, like he deals completely with all kinds of people and I understand what it is and how it is done. In most cases, people do not know basic things. They do not know the basic concepts - the state, the work of its institutions, and generally the processes around us. And then there are stories and other things. That is, they do not have an elementary gentleman's package of knowledge and skills necessary for at least some serious discussions.
                Then where do they get their confidence, their speculation and reasoning? And here are 2 options. Or they simply composed it, according to the principle - well, I think so and my version is no worse. Or they heard it somewhere and this version came to their heart. In both cases, most often these are absurd inventions that have little in common with reality.
                And when you see this, and the person begins to tell you something there, he mentions that you still need to read books that are clever and get out differently. You look at it and your hair stands on end, how much you need to be a belligerent ignoramus, how much you need to be not smart and not a mature person, that would be so stupid and boast of it.
                And these stupid people who are hard to come up with are starting all this bacchanalia and their government is stupid and the president is stupid and the generals are stupid and all stupid, so they would put things in order and only they know the truth.
                I understand that the example is not very correct, but still. Now, if your son is 5 years old, you will be taught how to live, what to do and tell how stupid you are - you will understand roughly the feelings of some people. And besides sometimes playing such a game, I don’t know what to do - their level of intelligence does not allow him to conduct any kind of reasonable conversations, and they cannot be silent about them because of ideas on how to equip the country.
                1. Leshy1975
                  Leshy1975 30 November 2018 14: 25
                  +3
                  Quote: Red_Baron
                  If the conversation goes on, I’ll stuff it, then this is definitely the level of people who are not healthy on my head.

                  And as for the Consultant, I am not aware of your correspondence, and even if I read it, I will see it in my own way. But I understand him and in some ways he is right.
                  You understand the point of view of others. That's even in this thread, I wrote to people about something in my head.
                  Just imagine, go into the topic and see how such a good percentage ... mmm ... well, let there be people writing such wild nonsense that it’s just PPC. And I, too, like he deals completely with all kinds of people and I understand what it is and how it is done. In most cases, people do not know basic things. They do not know the basic concepts - the state, the work of its institutions, and generally the processes around us. And then there are stories and other things. That is, they do not have an elementary gentleman's package of knowledge and skills necessary for at least some serious discussions.
                  Then where do they get their confidence, their speculation and reasoning? And here are 2 options. Or they simply composed it, according to the principle - well, I think so and my version is no worse. Or they heard it somewhere and this version came to their heart. In both cases, most often these are absurd inventions that have little in common with reality.
                  And when you see this, and the person begins to tell you something there, he mentions that you still need to read books that are clever and get out differently. You look at it and your hair stands on end, how much you need to be a belligerent ignoramus, how much you need to be not smart and not a mature person, that would be so stupid and boast of it.
                  And these stupid people who are hard to come up with are starting all this bacchanalia and their government is stupid and the president is stupid and the generals are stupid and all stupid, so they would put things in order and only they know the truth.
                  I understand that the example is not very correct, but still. Now, if your son is 5 years old, you will be taught how to live, what to do and tell how stupid you are - you will understand roughly the feelings of some people. And besides sometimes playing such a game, I don’t know what to do - their level of intelligence does not allow him to conduct any kind of reasonable conversations, and they cannot be silent about them because of ideas on how to equip the country.

                  Once again I will explain my position. Since you personally and your position are not completely clear to me, I cannot judge you badly or well. If someone, no matter who, is volunteered to surrender or approves the extradition of people (mainly related to Russian culture) to the SBU, where their fate is clear, then there can be no reason and excuse for such actions and persons. This is a real betrayal. There is nothing to discuss here. Point. I want to remind you that after issuing the SBU of Donbass citizens, something will have to be issued to the SBU and Crimean citizens, on the sole ground that in 1991 they (like the residents of Donbass discussed before) also became citizens of another country (who who asked about this? Who took into account the referendum on the preservation of the USSR). And all the difference between Crimeans and Donbass residents is that the first one was lucky today (with a return to Russia), but the second one is not.
                  1. Consultant
                    Consultant 30 November 2018 14: 43
                    -4
                    Quote: Leshy1975
                    If someone, no matter who, is volunteered to surrender or approves the extradition of people (mainly related to Russian culture) to the SBU, where their fate is clear, then there can be no reason and excuse for such actions and persons. This is a real betrayal

                    Buddy, is it you decided to glue it to me now? Can you give a quote on the basis of which you decided this? You, like, "are responsible for words"? wink

                    Quote: Leshy1975
                    I want to remind you that following the issuance by the SBU of citizens of Donbass, something will have to be issued to the SBU and citizens of Crimea, on the sole ground that in 1991 they (as well as the inhabitants of Donbass discussed before) also became citizens of another country

                    Brad.
                  2. Red_Baron
                    Red_Baron 30 November 2018 14: 45
                    -1
                    I did not say anything about the specific issue and your discussion in it. I tried to write quite abstractly so that on the one hand I wouldn’t hurt anyone on the other hand so that it would be clear what I was talking about.
                    I am against the fact that they would give citizens of Donbass to the Ukrainian side, it does not matter to the SBU or to whom else.
                    But I suspect that by law they are forced to do just that. This means that the law should be changed as soon as possible, if this is possible or necessary amendments should be made. In any case, it is impossible to violate the law for any reason not provided for in it. Everything should be within its framework, or as I wrote, use legitimate methods to change this framework. Otherwise, we will quickly become the same as Ukraine has become. What I don’t want at all.
                    1. Leshy1975
                      Leshy1975 30 November 2018 15: 10
                      0
                      Quote: Red_Baron
                      I did not say anything about the specific issue and your discussion in it. I tried to write quite abstractly so that on the one hand I wouldn’t hurt anyone on the other hand so that it would be clear what I was talking about.
                      I am against the fact that they would give citizens of Donbass to the Ukrainian side, it does not matter to the SBU or to whom else.
                      But I suspect that by law they are forced to do just that. This means that the law should be changed as soon as possible, if this is possible or necessary amendments should be made. In any case, it is impossible to violate the law for any reason not provided for in it. Everything should be within its framework, or as I wrote, use legitimate methods to change this framework. Otherwise, we will quickly become the same as Ukraine has become. What I don’t want at all.

                      This is not about the law. Human characteristics are not applicable to the law; the law cannot become a traitor. And about a specific person who voluntarily expressed his position and intention to become a traitor: "On my own land, I will definitely break the fraternal face and I will hand over to the nearest department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs И let the SBU explain to him whose citizen he is "... Moreover, she decided on this issue to show her coolness and assert herself. If the Consultant is dear to you, then I clarify that this is not his statement, but Ruslan67. However, the Consultant did not dispute this position, and in every possible way acted as an ally, and "only his laziness" prevented him from supporting Ruslan67 with "action." These are already his words, the Consultant: "To go somewhere to Voronezh to stuff the devil's face - I'm stupidly lazy." Those. Ruslan67's position is clear and close to him, in fact, and not because someone thought something wrong or meant the wrong thing. Therefore, if you wish, go to that topic, read it yourself. This is not important. It is important that if these persons are somehow related to your social circle, community, decide for yourself whether you personally (your community) are ready to support and share such a position and such views. Without any discounts on a little and ambiguity of the situation.
                      1. Red_Baron
                        Red_Baron 30 November 2018 15: 12
                        +2
                        I wrote from the very beginning that similar words, similar expressions are not close to me, and I condemn them in every way. And I do not share such ideas.
                        And I understand and support your indignation.
                      2. Leshy1975
                        Leshy1975 30 November 2018 15: 20
                        0
                        Quote: Red_Baron
                        I wrote from the very beginning that similar words, similar expressions are not close to me, and I condemn them in every way. And I do not share such ideas.

                        I understand your position. If necessary, we can argue with you and disagree on any other political, economic issues. But I am glad that you also believe that betrayal only deserves public rejection and all condemnation.
                        All the best. hi
    2. Gray brother
      Gray brother 30 November 2018 09: 44
      +5
      Quote: Vlad 63
      17% of those who agreed are the Zaputinians who were going to move to the Kuril Islands after they were transferred to Japan?

      What other zaputintsy - they have no money. This liberda is massively registered there. laughing
      1. Vlad 63
        Vlad 63 30 November 2018 09: 51
        -1
        Something does not fit. If we do not take into account our hydrant’s constitution (although he is also a liberal, which he has repeatedly admitted to the cameras), then the remaining liberals in the elections receive no more than 5-7%. Who is the remaining 10%? Edible Russia? ))))
        1. Gray brother
          Gray brother 30 November 2018 09: 56
          +3
          Quote: Vlad 63
          Who is the rest 10%

          Underage adherents of Oval and Russian-speaking citizens of other states. Are you going to be a freak yourself?
          1. Vlad 63
            Vlad 63 30 November 2018 10: 00
            +1
            Well, demotion again. Already taken for ukrobanderlog.
            1. Gray brother
              Gray brother 30 November 2018 10: 01
              +2
              Quote: Vlad 63

              Well, demotion again. Already taken for ukrobanderlog.

              Fi, you stipulate me, I didn’t write this - it’s you yourself who are already burning.
              By the way, I'm allergic to psychology from the opposite.
              1. Vlad 63
                Vlad 63 30 November 2018 10: 09
                0
                I'm allergic to psychology from the opposite.
                lucky for you.
  8. prior
    prior 30 November 2018 09: 32
    +6
    Who paid for the survey conducted by the Levada Center, the results and "walk".
    And we are being voiced the "necessary" numbers.
  9. Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 30 November 2018 09: 32
    +4
    This is how the information war against the Russian Federation takes place. It is necessary to answer.
  10. Aleks2048
    Aleks2048 30 November 2018 09: 33
    -5
    look like manipulation of public opinion

    Maybe all the same if something looks like this - that’s how it is. wink
  11. The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 30 November 2018 09: 33
    +11
    In a month, a "study" will be published that ALL the population will only be happy to give up ALL the islands! Also ready to pay! (((
  12. kebeskin
    kebeskin 30 November 2018 09: 36
    +7
    What kind of sons are the state lands squandering. So no volosts are not enough.
  13. rocket757
    rocket757 30 November 2018 09: 37
    +7
    We must speak LOUDLY, Schaub the greedy for everything and everyone, if only in your pocket, there were no illusions, you can!
  14. pros000007
    pros000007 30 November 2018 09: 38
    +5
    scum pave the way .... soon we will hear the bleating of propaganda nov agitating for the transfer of the islands. looks like Judas decided
  15. UMA-UMA
    UMA-UMA 30 November 2018 09: 38
    +7
    Here I was categorically blown away the other day for my post on the transfer of the Kuril Islands. As always, patriots are naive - they will give up the islands, they will still ask for what they would take. They are preparing the people, they went blanks. The next act will be about the benefits of transferring territories to the development of the country and concern for the population.
  16. Mr Credo
    Mr Credo 30 November 2018 09: 38
    +5
    On this issue, the VO may also hold its alternative vote. Yes, and for many others, too. And then we can immediately discuss the voting.
  17. IvanT
    IvanT 30 November 2018 09: 41
    +3
    Govnovbros ....
    Traitors from Levada and RBC make special stuffing
    1. Red_Baron
      Red_Baron 30 November 2018 10: 22
      +1
      But you didn’t read it on RBC or on the Levada website :)
      1. IvanT
        IvanT 30 November 2018 12: 01
        0
        Do not think correctly)
        I do not register in those garbage dumps and do not leave comments.
        But I go in and check the info.
    2. syndicalist
      syndicalist 30 November 2018 12: 15
      0
      What will you say when the transfer of the islands takes place? What traitors from rbc and levada defeated our government and guarantor, who heroically resisted to the last?
      1. IvanT
        IvanT 30 November 2018 13: 52
        0
        At the expense of the transfer, these are your stormy fantasies.
        In the Kremlin, not morons sit (what do you think).
  18. Hto tama
    Hto tama 30 November 2018 09: 45
    +8
    Zadolbali already with these Kuril Islands, the Russians are the islands and the point. There is a feeling that the Japanese paid someone, constant stuffing of this topic, it’s time to hold a referendum to close this issue once and for all. They don’t want the Japs to conclude a peace treaty, let them sign an unconditional one more time capitulation am
    1. Red_Baron
      Red_Baron 30 November 2018 10: 20
      0
      A very reasonable point of view, only we don’t really need a peace treaty or anything like that.
      Our leadership from the very beginning set the right concept - let's develop them together, equip them and improve our relations through this.
      1. Hto tama
        Hto tama 30 November 2018 10: 29
        +2
        I agree with you, only constant stuffing (and I cannot call it another way) is already starting to annoy. Earlier on this topic, I wrote that we do not need this agreement. Therefore, I am writing today about the referendum. My opinion is not one peace treaty does not guarantee peace
        1. Red_Baron
          Red_Baron 30 November 2018 10: 56
          -1
          Moreover, in my opinion, Shinze Abe himself makes a very good impression and the negotiations themselves. And the stuffing, as I understand it, will be so, someone may be engaged, and someone else - for the sake of hype.
      2. akunin
        akunin 30 November 2018 12: 08
        0
        Quote: Red_Baron
        Our leadership from the very beginning set the right concept - let's develop them together, equip them and improve our relations through this.

        will you invite a neighbor to improve your apartment? and then you will operate it together? on iturup the largest rhenium deposit
        Rhenium (Re) is the 75th element in the periodic table, a heavy silver metal with high refractoriness. Its melting point is extremely high and is more than 3000 degrees Celsius. Such properties make this metal truly strategic: it is used in rocket science, in the construction of jet engines, nose cones of supersonic aircraft, combustion chambers, and for the production of military equipment. The strategic value of this precious metal for high-tech industries of the metal economy is further enhanced by the fact that rhenium is one of the rarest elements on the planet, its world reserves are estimated at only 13 thousand tons. The price of a kilogram of rhenium reaches 1400 dollars.
  19. Million
    Million 30 November 2018 09: 46
    +9
    Putin will sell the islands. A question of time. You should not console yourself with illusions. All these polls / conversations / negotiations are simply not being conducted.
    1. Red_Baron
      Red_Baron 30 November 2018 10: 21
      -8
      Everyone judges by himself, an excellent bargainer disappears in you, urgently to the panel, that is, to the market!
      1. Million
        Million 30 November 2018 11: 03
        +2
        and you read books, maybe the mind will appear
        1. Red_Baron
          Red_Baron 30 November 2018 12: 05
          -3
          The mind is to call everyone around, scold, never justify anything and repeat someone’s common ideas, cliche? Hmm, apparently a lot of books have been read and a mind has appeared.
          1. Million
            Million 30 November 2018 13: 36
            +1
            Notice, I’m not negotiating and bidding with the Japanese, but for some reason you called me a bargainer. I personally am categorically against the transfer / sale of the islands. Why did our ancestors put their lives in battle with Japan?
            1. Red_Baron
              Red_Baron 30 November 2018 13: 38
              0
              And I am against, but why do you say that someone is for? Against his will, not knowing the opinion.
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  21. Terenin
    Terenin 30 November 2018 09: 50
    +5
    Levada Center: The number of Russians approving the transfer of the Kuriles to Japan has grown
    If what has grown among the Russians, it is the number of those who approve of transferring Yura Levada, together with his "analytical" center, somewhere, well, at least not closer to Japan.
  22. NordUral
    NordUral 30 November 2018 09: 52
    0
    Do not smoke any rubbish guys!
  23. persei
    persei 30 November 2018 09: 53
    +4
    Nonsense! Who can approve the return of their territory to the enemy ?? Provocation!!!
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 30 November 2018 10: 19
      +1
      Quote: persei
      Nonsense! Who can approve the return of their territory to the enemy ?? Provocation!!!

      Well, it depends on where the polls are. Come to the gathering of some sort of bulk-boisterous-makarevich and interview the audience. I assure you, the percentage who are willing to trade in their homeland will be even higher.
  24. Kito
    Kito 30 November 2018 09: 53
    +6
    Well, the next processing of mass consciousness has begun, what needs to be given back and even paid for use.
    I wonder the next step will be the transfer of Siberia to China?
    1. Million
      Million 30 November 2018 10: 04
      +7
      Indeed, with the help of such processing, any crazy idea can be taught as a blessing to the people. Raising the retirement age, for example.
  25. Servisinzhener
    Servisinzhener 30 November 2018 09: 54
    +1
    I wonder how the question was formulated by the results of which they received such a percentage.
  26. lis-ik
    lis-ik 30 November 2018 09: 58
    +3
    Let it be better to take the State Duma, the government, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, etc., to Russia, for sure, it will not fail, although all these creatures already live there.
    1. Red_Baron
      Red_Baron 30 November 2018 10: 17
      -3
      That's right and get your brother there - crazy and tipsy, here we will live !!!
      1. lis-ik
        lis-ik 30 November 2018 10: 49
        +1
        Quote: Red_Baron
        That's right and get your brother there - crazy and tipsy, here we will live !!!

        Well, your brother, is already there, so continue to amuse yourself with illusions and remove noodles from your ears, by the way anticipating the attacks by the training manual, I have never been a pro-Western or a liberal.
        1. Red_Baron
          Red_Baron 30 November 2018 11: 08
          -2
          I just didn’t have time to anticipate and you used the training manual. They didn’t forget to write about illusions and noodles with ears, Sergey’s Zer Good will be told to you and maybe they will give a bonus.
          But this is me, out of envy.
  27. Angry
    Angry 30 November 2018 09: 59
    +2
    What nonsense! At present, the Sea of ​​Okhotsk is limited by the ridge of the Kuril Islands and, according to all international laws, is the "internal sea of ​​the Russian Federation". In case of transfer of at least one island, the status of "international waters" appears! And then all the fishermen of the world will shamelessly trawl the Sea of ​​Okhotsk. And we will lose the raw material base of seafood. In addition, the US BNK and its allies, up to and including aircraft carriers, will be on duty in the Sea of ​​Okhotsk on a permanent basis. Will come 12 miles to our shores. Well, virginias / moose will keep our SSBNs on duty at gunpoint ... with all that it implies !!!
  28. ALARI
    ALARI 30 November 2018 10: 00
    +3
    Well, the processing of the population began before the transfer of the islands. Now they will tell us what good it is and what it will bring to us. When did you start your retirement? Polls, ratings, experts?
  29. vic02
    vic02 30 November 2018 10: 09
    +7
    RF Criminal Code Article 275. High treason: "providing financial, material and technical, consulting or other assistance to a foreign state, international or foreign organization or their representatives in activities directed against the security of the Russian Federation" Conducting such surveys is quite suitable for this article.
    1. Red_Baron
      Red_Baron 30 November 2018 10: 16
      -2
      Of course not.
  30. Qwertyarion
    Qwertyarion 30 November 2018 10: 13
    +1
    And according to Levada polls, Russians don't want to surrender for an hour?
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      1. Qwertyarion
        Qwertyarion 30 November 2018 11: 06
        +1
        If they surrendered, then they would have long been fertilizer!
        The United States, of course, lost to the United States, but it’s their own fault! The old senility drove the Union, Misha was allowed to power, and when he began to weird, they did not tear his head off!
        Blood had to be poured into young power in time, and not cling to it with decrepit hands and dentures.
  31. Red_Baron
    Red_Baron 30 November 2018 10: 15
    -2
    I understand that this time they interviewed not only Makarevich and Navalny, but also Akhedzhakova.

    In general, Japan needs to promise to think over, see, prepare and so on on this issue and so on constantly. That they would be pleased and everyone else. In Asia, it’s generally accepted to procrastinate something, say something unintelligible and do nothing, do not violate their traditions.
    1. kuz363
      kuz363 30 November 2018 10: 33
      0
      The main thing is not to forget that the United States removed its bases from Japan. Indeed, in 1956, this was also one of the reasons for the failure of the USSR. And they definitely will not clean up the bases. Well then, there won’t be an agreement on the Kuril Islands either. Let the Japs calm down. And the wolf is full and the sheep are whole. And what's the use of their supposed help? Any monitoring in ecology, medicine, transport, urban infrastructure ... In reality, this does not affect the life of the people
      1. Red_Baron
        Red_Baron 30 November 2018 11: 03
        0
        Their help is a huge help. For example, they will be allowed to put up some kind of research station, and for this money can be obtained or joint research. If some of the islands allow you to develop the tourism industry.
        But this is purely on their part, but jointly many times more. For example, to build or finance the construction of fish processing for the Japanese market, the development of a shopping center with a mainland.
        Everything affects the lives of people. they’ll build an extra road to some kind of joint venture and that’s good.
  32. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
    Andrei from Chelyabinsk 30 November 2018 10: 16
    +4
    In fact, all these publications, which state about the growth of "loyalty" of Russians on the transfer of the islands to the Japanese, look like a manipulation of public opinion.

    totally agree
    1. Qwertyarion
      Qwertyarion 30 November 2018 10: 34
      0
      Similarly, I agree! hi
  33. Victor1
    Victor1 30 November 2018 10: 18
    +3
    the zombie man works as a corrupt government and demands.
    It’s not for nothing that recently they have been throwing so much informational noise on this topic in the media, and here is the transition to the next stage.
    Now they will discuss and more and more procrastinate the topic - to prepare the population psychologically.
    standard scheme.
    Unfortunately, all concerns about the Kuril Islands are confirmed ...
    those who say "we will not give it up" remember what Putin said about the pension, and how he eventually pushed it.
  34. swnvaleria
    swnvaleria 30 November 2018 10: 22
    0
    and I approve the transfer of the Levada to the center of Japan, let them shit there
  35. Red_Baron
    Red_Baron 30 November 2018 10: 25
    -2
    By the way, what would be the result if VO had such a survey? Because from the comments, I see that the all-props are sure that they have already transmitted or they will. And immediately the question arises: Levada is betraying the country or those who are already ready to support the return, albeit in the form of whining.
    1. Qwertyarion
      Qwertyarion 30 November 2018 10: 41
      0
      Quote: Red_Baron
      By the way, what would be the result if VO had such a survey?

      Why not! Surveys on topics can be conducted, the site is plentiful and popular!
      1. Red_Baron
        Red_Baron 30 November 2018 11: 06
        -2
        So the specifics are different. Although now they have done more of a political - hysterical orientation. it remains to introduce scanwords and knitting tips.
  36. Ural resident
    Ural resident 30 November 2018 10: 26
    +5
    After all, they sell this question with us, I am not surprised at anything. There is a well-thought-out and systematic policy of dismembering Russia, with the approving toothless smile of our Foreign Ministry. What were these flirting with the Japanese - they gave them a reason to believe in their success, now they felt a slack - the whole world will pile up.
  37. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 30 November 2018 10: 26
    0
    RBC Information Service
    Well, if RBC announced, then of course. To believe this "economic and financial" (read anti-Russian) garbage dump with information from the Western media is not to respect oneself. This is for the Nekrasovs, Rybakovs, Isaevs, Drandenykhs and others like them, who are happy to try to convey this information on talk shows where for some reason they are invited.
  38. Roman070280
    Roman070280 30 November 2018 10: 26
    0
    "From the data presented not understandablefor whom the situation suddenly became a "problem". Russia has no problems with the Kuril Islands, and if this is a problem for Japan, then representatives of the Levada Center it would be worth going to Japan and conduct a survey among the local population. "

    It sounded as if Levada was conducting a survey - it must be somehow provocative, or have some other shade ..
    The fact that this is just a survey does not even occur to the authors of the article ..))
    1. Qwertyarion
      Qwertyarion 30 November 2018 10: 49
      +2
      Quote: Roman070280
      It sounded as if Levada was conducting a survey - it must be somehow provocative, or have some other shade ..

      So, the topic of the islands has been chewing in the media for about two months now. So the people were on their guard, why would it?
      Remember the retirement age, for a year the stuffing went to the media, then you have to raise it, then you don’t have to.
      1. Roman070280
        Roman070280 30 November 2018 11: 23
        0
        With retirement age it was obvious that they would raise .. At least for me ..
        And the retirement age, if not all, then about 90 percent of the population cares about ..
        What exactly cannot be said about the Kuril Islands ..
        1. Qwertyarion
          Qwertyarion 30 November 2018 13: 57
          0
          For those who make stuffing it is absolutely indifferent to who thinks what and who cares, the technology is not very complicated: first they focus on the topic, then they start to prepare the necessary public opinion with articles, various shows and reports.
          And after the decision is made, there seems to be nothing to be indignant, because for a long time they discussed what else is needed!
  39. Lesorub
    Lesorub 30 November 2018 10: 26
    +4
    Levada Center: The number of Russians approving the transfer of the Kuriles to Japan has grown

    Brainwashing begins, and the trend is clearly not healthy - the manipulation of invented polls!
  40. bratchanin3
    bratchanin3 30 November 2018 10: 28
    +1
    Who believes the Levada Center these days? They probably interviewed in the Baltic states or in Japan, and maybe in the nezalezhnoy. Most likely in nezalezhnoy, but easier to suck out of the finger.
    1. Roman070280
      Roman070280 30 November 2018 11: 24
      0
      I believe .. This one looks quite realistic .. but whatever this center is called - it already doesn’t bother me much ..
  41. kuz363
    kuz363 30 November 2018 10: 30
    +2
    Disperse this Levada Center
  42. megadeth
    megadeth 30 November 2018 10: 30
    +1
    "Levada Center" liberalists and enemies ..
  43. tverskoi
    tverskoi 30 November 2018 10: 36
    +6
    If you follow the logical chain of actions of President Putin, then he will probably give back the Kuril Islands. Or I already gave it away, now they just connected political scientists / marketers from the EdRa election headquarters to sew lace on these dirty panties.
    1. Giants
      Giants 30 November 2018 23: 28
      0
      Quote: tverskoi
      he will probably give the Kuril Islands. Or already gave

      Let the Japanese give it to Kabaev, at least for good, at least for joint use - she will give it to him. But he did not collect the country, and he did not squander. Grandfather no longer understand who he imagines himself to be, since such questions of transferring territories to his fragile shoulders have been taken over.
  44. Terminolol
    Terminolol 30 November 2018 10: 38
    0
    Look at what the Levada Center is in the same Wiki and draw conclusions whether it is possible to trust the data of this organization.
  45. Paul
    Paul 30 November 2018 10: 42
    +3
    Test, reaction is checked for the return of the islands.
  46. konst
    konst 30 November 2018 10: 49
    0
    At the will of the United States according to our people's constitution
  47. gig334
    gig334 30 November 2018 10: 50
    +2
    But this is serious, apparently setting the stage for the delivery of the islands. They still can’t calm down. If this is done, then the whole people of Russia will be strongly framed, the whole country. American bases with missiles will also appear 100% there.
  48. Shurale
    Shurale 30 November 2018 10: 52
    0
    Can you name the names of these Russians? I don’t think there are many of them ...
  49. Berkut24
    Berkut24 30 November 2018 10: 53
    0
    And for whose money did this "foreign agent" conduct the survey? Who ordered this interest?
  50. pvv113
    pvv113 30 November 2018 10: 56
    0
    It was 17% of respondents, as stated in the material, said they were ready to support the transfer of the islands of Japan

    It seems that in their center they conducted this survey among themselves.