Ukrainian armored troopers violated the state border of the Russian Federation

Three ships of the Ukrainian Navy crossed the state border of Russia and move to the Kerch Strait, reports RIA News Post border guards of the FSB in the Crimea.

According to the information, two artillery armored boats and a raid tug of the Ukrainian Navy entered the closed zone around 7 in the morning. It is noted that they violated two articles of the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea, according to which the coastal state is responsible for security in the water area.

The press service explained that in Kerch, the berthing and movement of ships were allowed in accordance with the schedule approved by the captain of the Russian port. The Ukrainian side did not apply for the passage of warships in the Kerch Strait, and these schedules are not included.

According to the border guards, the ships are dangerously maneuvering and do not obey the lawful demands of the Russian side.

Ukraine has already commented on the incident, accusing Russia of provocation.

According to the representative of the Naval Forces of Ukraine, two armored artillery boats, accompanied by a raid tug, were moving from Odessa to the port of Mariupol. The intention to make the transition was announced in advance in accordance with international law, the press service added. The Russian side denies the fact of any announcement from the Ukrainian side.

However, the Russian border guard ships PSCR Don, the Mongoose, the Suzdalets IPC and the Sobol type boats launched “frankly aggressive actions,” the report said.

The aforementioned Ukrainian tug has paid for actions that violate the norms of navigation.

It is reported that the raid tug was “rammed” by the PSRC “Don”, and as a result, the main engine of the tug, its plating and guard rail were damaged, in addition, the liferaft was lost. At least this is what was announced in the Ukrainian Navy.

Recall, on Wednesday, the Foreign Ministry of the Russian Federation warned Kiev against attempts to revise the status of the Sea of ​​Azov as the inland waters of two states that are contrary to international standards. Russian diplomats stressed that responsibility for possible consequences falls entirely on Ukraine and its supporting allies.

Comments

[NEXUS]

If provoked, then you need to drown or capture without looking at the Svidomo visas, so that they understand that there will be no games with them.

[Svarog]

Quote: NEXUS

If provoked, then you need to drown or capture without looking at the Svidomo visas, so that they understand that there will be no games with them.

Yes, the provocation of pure water, definitely flood ..

[A good one]

Flood, and pick up the crew. For an interview.

[Svarog]

Quote: Not bad

Flood, and pick up the crew. For an interview.

Well, of course, they must tell who ordered the provocation and ask for Russian citizenship

[bulvas]

Quote: NEXUS

If provoked, then you need to drown or capture ...

It's time to put rams on border ships ...

Shooting is not desirable - a provocation, but ramming - the very thing

[venik]

Quote: bulvas

Shooting is not desirable - a provocation, but ramming - the very thing

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Well, straight away, and ram right away .... What kind of you, my friend, aggressive in the morning ..... Just adjust the watchdog ("Sharp-witted" for example, or someone projects 1135 or 11356), let the speed pick up and "skip alongside "....." Gyurzam "with this -" headlong "is enough ... (river pelvis, there is seaworthiness in my opinion 3 points) Well, the tugboat .... This seems to have had enough already ....

[210ox]

I understand that now these gyurzy will take the tug in tow and "triumphantly" pass the strait .. Yes, the self-esteem is hidden far away when projects in Europe are at stake.

[PalBor]

Until they pass. They did not receive permission to pass under the bridge. Now they hang out in 6 nautical miles and, I doubt that they will go on a breakthrough, the gut is thin.
True, there is such a factor as "Ukrainians" among our top officials ... Well then, another shame.

[Tatar 174]

Why so much talk? Simply put: There is, for example, the Charter of the guard service, The order of actions is written there, and any guard duty must act according to this Charter. Why so much talk ??? Unclear. According to the violator, in case of disobedience, a weapon should be used no matter what, there is not even a special order. Softness and indecision are completely useless in such cases.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Tartar 174

Why so much talk? Simply put: There is, for example, the Charter of the guard service, The order of actions is written there, and any guard duty must act according to this Charter.

Definitely. I used it for two years.

According to the violator, in case of disobedience, a weapon should be used no matter what, there is not even a special order. Softness and indecision are completely useless in such cases.

Definitely. However, in addition to the Charter of the Navy, there are also norms of international maritime law and departmental regulations that must be observed.
The military and civilian vessels of Ukraine, in accordance with the current Treaty on the Sea of ​​Azov and the Kerch Strait, have the right to safely pass from the Black Sea to the Sea of ​​Azov and vice versa, without any agreement with the FSB of the Russian Federation (prove the opposite) ....
The article says:

The Ukrainian side did not apply for the passage of warships in the Kerch Strait, and these are not included in the passage schedule.

But should the Ukrainian side do this according to the above Agreement or some other agreement signed between Ukraine and the Russian Federation?
I wrote here for a long time that the Treaty must be terminated, then the Kerch Strait would automatically become not an international but a national one, and as a result of our blocking the strait, we will "get on the grandmother" by all the owners by the court, who are now standing idle ... ..

[Lena363]

Actually, some kind of coordination is required. For example, the Bosphorus belongs to Turkey. But foreign ships must notify the Turks in advance of their passage through the strait. And the Turks have the right to close the passage in extreme situations - accidents, oil spills and more.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Lena363

Actually, some kind of coordination is required. For example, the Bosphorus belongs to Turkey.

Unsuccessful comparison, because The straits indicated by you belong to Turkey and no one disputes their belonging to Turkey ...
The agreement on the Sea of ​​Azov was signed when Crimea was Ukrainian, so in this case it would be beneficial to sign the parties an addendum to the agreement that would resolve territorial disputes, but Ukraine would never agree to this, so even if the parties agree on the international status of the Kerch Strait, then Crimea Ukraine will never recognize Russian ....
So the status of the Kerch Strait will still have to be established in an international court at the UN ...
An idiotic situation has developed, both banks of the Kerch Strait are Russian, the entire strait is the territorial waters of the Russian Federation, the Sea of ​​Azov is common for the Azov states, and the Kerch Strait is also common for shipping of the two countries ....
Therefore, termination of the agreement on the Sea of ​​Azov is more beneficial to Kuev, and not to us ...

[sogdy]

Quote: Lara Croft

The military and civilian vessels of Ukraine, in accordance with the current Treaty on the Sea of ​​Azov and the Kerch Strait, have the right to safely pass from the Black Sea to the Sea of ​​Azov and vice versa, without any agreement with the FSB of the Russian Federation (prove the opposite) ....

http://kremlin.ru/supplement/1795
Art.1
Settlement of issues related to the water area of ​​the Kerch Strait is carried out by agreement between the Parties.

[A good one]

Oh, this is the same moaner, everything was gone from the discharge, nagging is his favorite pastime.

[Antares]

Quote: Lara Croft

If the moderators of a thematic site can calmly relate to your insult to the RF Armed Forces

did not see the "insult", but still the sun is not a person who can be insulted.
You can treat them as you like. The rules of the main thing are not obscene, and degrading.
Although there are entire countries and humiliatingly humiliating residents as well. Yes, and in communication enough humiliation.

[g1v2]

I wonder what kind of reputation loss your country suffered with the second army of the world. Just wondering what's in your brain. I advise you at least sometimes to read the foreign press - all these nonsense about us humiliated and so on immediately leave your head. I think that now half of Europe will start shouting about the exceptional aggression of the Russians, who aggressively rammed the Ukrainian ship. And then another money will be allocated for defense against aggressive Russians. Well, our urapatriots, or rather, hysteria, will continue to shout that they have been humiliated and so on.

[Yarhann]

All the same, all-scouts will whine for any reason - regardless of the result

[sogdy]

Quote: g1v2

And then another money will be allocated for defense against aggressive Russians

Over 2% "which they don't have"?

[ibn.shamai]

Disgraced is it that they did not let your pelvis sink to the bottom? So to whom they interfere, let them frolic, no harm from them to anyone.

[Naughty]

They will pass ... even as they pass And they will bawl under the bridge Glory to Ukraine! and broadcast your anthem More like a calm song. The fact is that the Ukrainians sacredly believe that all of this belongs to them. And a rod for a break like And ours doubts along the way. Is it ours ?. For a good result of such a provocation should be like this:
E-boat ships to the wall and cut with a broom and ship to China. For a team of 5-6 years of Siberia, for the commander and assistants for life

[Grigory b]

Quote: Vzdrincher

They will pass ... even as they pass And they will bawl under the bridge Glory to Ukraine! and broadcast your anthem More like a calm song. The fact is that the Ukrainians sacredly believe that all of this belongs to them. And a rod for a break like And ours doubts along the way. Is it ours ?. For a good result of such a provocation should be like this:
E-boat ships to the wall and cut with a broom and ship to China. For a team of 5-6 years of Siberia, for the commander and assistants for life

We in Siberia don’t need this shit for nothing. On Solovki right away and to the wall.

[dvina71]

Quote: Grigory B

On Solovki immediately and to the wall.

Why do we need them? THERE is a beautiful reserve .. whites .. and you throw all shit there ..

[Naughty]

And where then to put them on bed?

[Serg koma]

Quote: Vzdrincher

E-boat ships to the wall and cut with a broom and ship to China. For a team of 5-6 years of Siberia, for the commander and assistants for life

Original:

Well you drowned the boat,
There was a new gramophone in it
And a portrait of Edita Pieha,
And a smoking room.

Not original:
"Why did we sink the boat ???
There was an old gramophone in it!
Two portraits of Poroshenko !! ...
And a smoking room !!! .... "
You my friend is not the original

[Kunar]

Current there for Odessa last verse

[olegfbi]

They will pass ... even as they pass And they will bawl under the bridge Glory to Ukraine!

100% will NOT pass!
Just in the news on "Russia 24" it was reported that the passage through the Kerch Strait is closed due to ukrosobytiyas. Sea tugs have placed a dry cargo ship under the bridge arch.
So, now it’s physically impossible to go there.
IMHO all competently do. Why drown, shoot, if you can just DO NOT miss !?

[NEXUS]

Quote: olegfbi

DO NOT MISS !?

And where are you going to cross the border? M

[olegfbi]

And where are you going to cross the border?

Ukrainians behave like a pug from Krylov’s fable.
"Ay, pug! Know she is strong,
What barks at the Elephant! "
Seriously, the current task = DO NOT skip, using "soft" methods, as far as possible of course.
In the future, they will be harshly warned and, in case of repetition, will be drowned.
IMHO.

[Looking for]

Your opinion is ABSOLUTELY WRONG, the Russian border is inviolable, and any ship, be it an aircraft carrier or a fishing boat, DOESN'T HAVE the RIGHT to violate it. RUSSIA HAS BEEN FORGOTTEN FOR A LONG TIME AND ARE AFRAID TO REMEMBER about its former greatness, no matter how something happens ..

[Alex777]

But they do not recognize this border. Like no one else in the world. But this does not bother us.
Right now, a wave will rise at sea (such a season) and they will drown these Gyurza.

[Serg koma]

Quote: Alex777

But they do not recognize this border

That's right. But we RECOGNIZED the current power of a used country. So de jure they are right ... De facto - to hell with them and not the strait!

[Lara Croft]

Quote: olegfbi

They will pass ... even as they pass And they will bawl under the bridge Glory to Ukraine!

100% will NOT pass!
Just in the news on "Russia 24" it was reported that the passage through the Kerch Strait is closed due to ukrosobytiyas. Sea tugs have placed a dry cargo ship under the bridge arch.
So, now it’s physically impossible to go there.
IMHO do everything competently.

Violating thereby the passage of the strait, who will indemnify?

[olegfbi]

Violating thereby the passage of the strait, who will indemnify?

In the current situation, the Navy's actions created a specific Force Majeure and a real threat to the safety of shipping.
Therefore, all claims against Kiev and the Navy.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: olegfbi

Violating thereby the passage of the strait, who will indemnify?

In the current situation, the actions of the Navy have created a specific Force Majeure

Is the violation of the state border and the inaction of the FSB of the Russian Federation already force majeure? Why would taxpayers need such an FSB if it cannot cope with such a "force majeure" ...

[Bad thing]

Force majeure arises because there are instructions and orders, and there is also "manual" control, and until the "manual manager" makes a decision, everyone will shrug their shoulders and pretend that they do not remember the instructions. Since the punishment for inaction is significantly lower than for actions according to instructions if they go against the opinion of the "manager".

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Bad

but there is also "manual" control, and until the "manual manager" makes a decision, everyone will shrug their shoulders and pretend that they do not remember the instructions. Since the punishment for inaction is significantly lower than for actions according to instructions if they go against the opinion of the "manager".

So it’s necessary to write about it in the comments, and not insult those who shrug their shoulders ... on the other hand, they are paid money for it so that they do not shrug their shoulders, but follow the instructions ....

[LeonidL]

Maybe you will be more comfortable not on VO but, say, on "accounting issues"?

[alexmach]

E-boat ships to the wall and cut with a broom and ship to China. For a team of 5-6 years of Siberia, for the commander and assistants for life

What a bloodthirsty! What for. They broke a tugboat, the next step is simply not to let them into the strait. So let them hang out on the open sea, or try to get back to Odessa, it is still advisable not to let help from them either from Mariupol ... That's all, nothing else is needed.

[LeonidL]

Already done

[210ox]

In the range under the arch, a border guard became. They closed the strait for everyone.

[Pereira]

Flushing G with a wave is an elegant solution. Not stereotyped.

[Random]

Quote: venik

Well, straight so right away and ram .... What you, my friend aggressive in the morning.

So it’s like we’re at home and have a "front door ... hacked and even with weapons .... and you ... water?

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: venik

"Gyurzam" with this - "with the head" is enough ... (river pelvis, there is seaworthiness in my opinion 3 points) Well, the tugboat .... This seems to be already "enough" ....

Stranded and then arrested and put on trial! VMSuk ships, put up for auction! Donate the funds received to the humanitarian convoy to New Russia!

[bulvas]

Quote: venik

Just fit the watchdog ("Sharpie" for example, or someone projects 1135 or 11356),

I do not argue


Not a specialist

A vessel larger than the "Dutchman" did not have to be managed

[Random]

Quote: bulvas

Shooting is not desirable - a provocation

That's why they "HAVE" us in all the cracks ... who and who are not lazy ... since we ... "are embarrassed" and .. "are puzzled" .. no matter what happens and what will they think of us

[Gray brother]

Ukrainians, on their resources, one-on-one comments.
They gave you all the pots to vilify or what?

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Gray Brother

They gave you all the pots to vilify or what?

Well, perhaps, someone is already "on the glass" in the morning and rushes into battle, while someone, on the contrary, pours ashes on top of the head. Abstinence - she is. If such topics are rolled without alcohol, then it is already more difficult. Why search and search the network for the rules of action of the Ministry of Railways and BO in such cases - it’s boring and tedious, it’s easier to yell or vice versa, to smear the snot. It seems to be people, it seems, even adults ... Trouble-trouble ...

[Gray brother]

Quote: Paranoid50

. Why look for-seek out in the network the rules of action of IGOs ​​and BO

I don’t know what it is, but I suspect that the primary task of the border guards is to prevent violation of the state border.
They prevented it.
Che they still want the couch military, I do not understand.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Gray Brother

Che they still want the couch military, I do not understand.

Yes, everything is simple, Sergey - crave the embodiment of their own Wishlist. And someone, apparently, also plays in the "strategy".

[Random]

Quote: Gray Brother

They prevented it.

Prevented .. it detained or destroyed the violators or did not allow the crossing of the TAPE and turned back
And YOU have that .... "pelvis" are in our waters 6 km from the bridge and .... WHAT?

Quote: Gray Brother

Che they still want the couch military, I do not understand.

Standard "Vedrosovsky" and "loyal" otmaz

[Random]

Quote: Paranoid50

The trouble is the trouble ..

And according to the FACT of what happened, there is something to say ... to be specific, without "urya-loyal subjects .. flow"?

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Random

according to the FACT what happened has something to say ...

Everything has already been said and shown, at least for the moment. Hall yelling something? Ooh, tranquilizer ...(C)

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Paranoid50

It seems to be people, it seems, even adults ... Trouble-trouble ...

Not only that, many here are military pensioners or active military ... but yelling at the military-political leadership of the Russian Federation is sacred ...

[Random]

Quote: Gray Brother

They gave you all the pots to vilify or what?

In the pans it is you and others like you for 18 years ... "walk"

[Gray brother]

Quote: Random

In the pans it is you and others like you for 18 years ... "walk"

I watch you hooked. Ricochet or break?

[Random]

Quote: Gray Brother

I watch you hooked. Ricochet or break?

I'm offended for POWER, but you? For the "welfare" of their own kind?
So something weakly you rush to the embrasure to protect "honor and reputation" ....

[Random]

Quote: Gray Brother

Ukrainians, on their resources, one-on-one comments.

What surprises you? They state the fact that ... "we are companions and .. contractors" ... "perplexed and worried."
Can you refute?

[Gray brother]

Quote: Random

Can you refute?

What is there to refute? And they also write about "it is necessary to heat", and about "concern" of some kind.
Well I say - one in one comments.

[Random]

Quote: Gray Brother

What is there to refute? And they also write about "it is necessary to heat", and about "concern" of some kind.
Well I say - one in one comments.

So I say .... wipe yourselves further, since you will object ... "uryakalkam" ..... NOTHING

[Gray brother]

Quote: Random

That's what I say .... wipe down further, as to object to you ... "uryakalka" ..... NOTHING

Where did you read "urya" from me here? Stop trying on your templates for me - I’m not alone)))

[alexmach]

Ukrainians, on their resources, one-on-one comments.
They gave you all the pots to vilify or what?

This is a true remark. Propaganda and provocation and human stupidity are the same everywhere.

[Antares]

Quote: Gray Brother

Ukrainians, on their resources, one-on-one comments.
They gave you all the pots to vilify or what?

I am Ukrainian, I have not seen comments on Ukrainian resources yet.
However, even according to this article did not see what the violation was?
Applications Ukraine should not leave! According to the agreement, Ukrainian vessels and naval ships pass unhindered. Since the sea is inland 2 countries. After all, it is precisely this treaty that Russians flaunt when they detain and inspect Ukrainian ships.
Ukrainians are not required to leave applications and warn. Because this is not in the contract.
Where was the violation of that border? And what is the border? Ships passed through the strait, there are international rules and treaties. The Ukrainians did not violate the main treaty on the Kerch Strait.
All talk about the fact that the Russian Federation controls the Kerch Strait may focus on the main thing - the passage is regulated by the agreement. And even if terminated, international laws will come into force. But while he is in force, he is acting. There was no violation.
This is the first. The second - Ukrainians and Russians consciously went on provocations here. The first and second prizes of each other should be provoked in the spirit of the times (one needs to prove something to the second, too ... otherwise everything would be peaceful and tense)
Who is right who is to blame? Yes, both sides. Forcing the military to go on a provocation. And then the information war gets fuel. The Russians hate the Ukrainians and yell-they violated this, by spilling our Crimea and others.
Legally, the Ukrainians did not violate anything. The only thing that can be presented to them is dangerous maneuvering and threats to the merchant fleet.
Russians can also be presented with the dangerous provocation of ships friendly (under the Strait Treaty), the creation of a dangerous and conflict situation.
Bottom line - both sides created a conflict on their own from scratch!
Interestingly, my comment coincided with the comments of Ukrainian resources?

[ul_vitalii]

"...I am Ukrainian..."

"... Russians hate Ukrainians ..."

That's why there is a lot of text, reassuring yourself, buddy.

[Turist1996]

Crimea - even "de jure" is not yours, not Ukrainian. The rest is "to suck, to suck strongly, because it is very bewitched!"

[Grenader]

Quote: Random

That's why they "HAVE" us in all the cracks ... who and who are not lazy ... since we ... "are embarrassed" and .. "are puzzled" .. no matter what happens and what will they think of us

That's right, we let them too much. Drown the fuck.

[Comrade Beria]

Quote: bulvas

Shooting is not desirable - a provocation,

In 1941, too, were forbidden to shoot. And so on until June 22nd.

[A good one]

They will ask citizenship for sure, Natsik is busy with other things, safer and more profitable.

[Proxima]

Quote: Not bad

Flood, and pick up the crew. For an interview.

This is not a NATO ship, with all the ensuing consequences. Flood unambiguously. True, the crews must be saved. The people there are servicemen and it’s not their fault that they have the top of a saucepan, and these guys are like sheep for a slaughter. It's just a trial ball. If there is no decisive action from Russia, then the next ships will be NATO ships.

[Random]

Quote: Proxima

True, the crews must be saved. There are service people and they are not to blame,

Not to save, but to pick up and capture, as violators of the state border and aggressors
How is it they are not to blame? ... what is not to blame?
Well, in principle, we have "experience" ... to warm it up, wash it, feed it, give it a rest and cure, and then take it to "404"

[Baloo]

Quote: Proxima

This is not a NATO ship, with all the ensuing consequences.

And if NATO didn’t have to tease the bear with a match in the eye, drown!

[Random]

Quote: Balu

bear a match in the eye-stoke!

There was a bear when there was the USSR and now ... ugh ... one "get up off our knees" and ... more

[Dr. Aibolit 66]

Really!
There used to be a bear!
And now - an indecisive and toothless misunderstanding, striving to please everyone, without fail at the expense of itself!
As if there, at the top, they are guessing on a chamomile: "... to react ... not to react ... to attend

[zhekazs]

Quote: Proxima

There are service people and they are not to blame,

I doubt it very much. Five hours to leave and bring to the ram? Serving and innocent? According to their behavior, we can draw the appropriate conclusions. If they were serviceable and innocent, they would have stalled at once upon the approach of our ship and would not have succumbed. Here the crew is clearly picked up and processed. So, the arrest - the court - the prison, they also try to confiscate for scrap. No options.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Proxima

There are service people and they are not to blame

Well yes. “Poor, unfortunate, deceived“ brothers. ”We once passed these slogans.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Not bad

Flood, and pick up the crew. For an interview.

What for? I think they would not pick our ....

[A good one]

The most annoying thing is that gunpowder has already prepared the stars of heroes for them, and it’s even more interesting for him to hand over the mortals, and this is a joy to the curators.

[Orkraider]

Rammed the tug. Also not bad))) continuity, so to speak

In general, in my opinion, it was necessary to raise aviation and repeat the spring exercises, with the threat of drowning of the sea target, to wet socks. But you can’t drown, it’s not such a serious violation for opening fire.

But ram it to the brink of flooding and tow to our port with the arrest ... let's see what happens next, the news is delayed ...

It can be clearly traced directly, Ukrainians announced that they would raise the issue of the Azov and Black Seas at the session and, now, create an inform occasion. Although clumsy of course.

[210ox]

So the most interesting thing is that these vessels continue to sail towards the Kerch Strait. In any case, in Yandex .. So what, is it drowned or not drowned? Are they arrested or missed?

[NEXUS]

Quote: 210ox

So is it drowned or not drowned? Are they arrested or let in?

Apparently while the snot chew ...

[Random]

Quote: NEXUS

Apparently while the snot chew.

Correct .... as ALWAYS (instead of yet)

[NEXUS]

Quote: Random

Correct .... as ALWAYS (instead of yet)

Hmm ... and I want to ask-EASY TO YOU ?! Ugh.
We are great, we are a superpower, yes we, oh wow ... remember at the Victory Parades how did our helmsman vote? And Ukrainians with this greatness wiped their ass.

[Random]

Quote: NEXUS

Hmm ... and I want to ask-EASY TO YOU ?! Ugh.
We are great, we are a superpower, yes we, oh wow ... remember at the Victory Parades how did our helmsman vote? And Ukrainians with this greatness wiped their ass.

Uhhhh "puff" like ... a samovar My wife runs after me ... guards the televisions ... I ask what the computer is .. "miss" ... after all, I can ... "shake" .. and she told me, but how then will you communicate with your friends ? .... Logically ...

[NEXUS]

Quote: Random

and she is to me, but how then will you communicate with your friends? .... Logically ...

My friend, the second pack of cigarettes has already been printed for me today ... I don’t have any urge to break the furniture yet, but I smoke and puff like our Kuzya when I switch to Syria.

[ODERVIT]

Mine drove me out into the street. I resort, and here it is.)))

[venik]

Quote: Orkraider

Rammed the tug.

=========
"Naval Forces" of Ukraine suffered the HARDEST the loss!!!
Out of order port tug...
We look forward to the announcement of the 3-day National Mourning .....
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Quote: Orkraider

It can be clearly traced directly, Ukrainians announced that they would raise the issue of the Azov and Black Seas at the session and, now, create an inform occasion.

=========

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Quote: Orkraider

Although clumsy of course.

==========
And they know how to ???

[Baloo]

Quote: venik

Quote: Orkraider

Rammed the tug.

=========
"Naval Forces" of Ukraine suffered the HARDEST the loss!!!
Out of order port tug...
We look forward to the announcement of the 3-day National Mourning .....
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Quote: Orkraider

It can be clearly traced directly, Ukrainians announced that they would raise the issue of the Azov and Black Seas at the session and, now, create an inform occasion.

=========

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Quote: Orkraider

Although clumsy of course.

==========
And they know how to ???

They also lost a raft
They already have 13 admirals, in turn, swim, but do not go by sea. Irreplaceable loss.

[Random]

Quote: venik

The "Naval Forces" of Ukraine suffered a HEAVY loss !!!
Port tug out of order.

What are you all the time talking about ... "horses"? They fulfilled their task clearly ... poured slops over us ... "klotik".
And they inflicted such a reputational loss on ours that .... real officers in the Navy would have long been .... from such a shame !!!

[masterovoy]

I don’t know how it is now, but in Soviet times, in such cases, we carried out a set of measures: warning by means of communication, shots with red missiles in front of the intruder’s bow, shots in front of the bow from the artillery systems, in case the offender didn’t stall, bring the violator on board if shots from art systems at the intruder’s compartments where people, antennas and masts are unlikely to end up and ultimately destroy the intruder will not work. For all cases, there were strict instructions and their failure was simply not possible. I believe that now all of this is there, only the decision on their implementation today is only at the highest level. Can’t you wait for him?

[Yarhann]

ram of the boat was an indicator of intentions, to start naughty is not a tricky business. the 404th Papuans do not care about the consequences, they were and will be in shit anyway, and for the Russian Federation the militarization of its economic marine zone is not particularly beneficial - this increases the costs of the business.

[Turist1996]

Business costs will begin when their partner-state begins to "chew snot", proving their right.
When the state clearly states its rights and the rules by which it operates, the business does not have any costs. There is a percentage in the value of the goods, which is immediately laid.
But the percentage of "thugs" in the style of high-tech Somalia on ships sailing in the Sea of ​​Azov is not included.

[Turist1996]

Therefore, in our interests (economic) to stop once and for all such tricks of dill!

[Turist1996]

In order to show that shipping in the Sea of ​​Azov is safe and is under our strict control in accordance with international standards!

[Turist1996]

That's exactly how you described - it should be so !!
Exactly!! And no other way !!

[Turist1996]

I immediately remembered a joke: about Ukraine, a barn, An-2 and two grandfathers at the house ..

[Turist1996]

"What a country, such are the terrorist attacks!"
An anecdote appeared immediately after September 11, 2001.

[Machito]

Quote: Svarog

Quote: NEXUS

If provoked, then you need to drown or capture without looking at the Svidomo visas, so that they understand that there will be no games with them.

Yes, the provocation of pure water, definitely flood ..

Sunk them all
Swamp them all.
The invasion of the Navy ships in the territorial waters of the Russian Federation is armed aggression.

[venik]

Quote: Bearded

The invasion of the Navy ships in the territorial waters of the Russian Federation is armed aggression.

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And "casus belli"!!!

[Machito]

Quote: venik

Quote: Bearded

The invasion of the Navy ships in the territorial waters of the Russian Federation is armed aggression.

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And "casus belli"!!!

It is necessary to use the incident to the fullest.

[Antares]

Quote: venik

And "casus belli" !!! angry

apparently such incidents in any strait to the millionth world war

[Herald of the Revolution]

Quote: Svarog

flood definitely ..

Well, grab sanctions in response to the most do not spoil, like Iran and once Cuba, that is, a complete embargo on everything. How do you like this prospect?

[210ox]

Yes, not you, the witcher Lyakhovsky worry about us ...

[Herald of the Revolution]

Quote: 210ox

Yes, not you, the witcher Lyakhovsky worry about us ...

You simply escalate the situation from a completely empty place. And this despite the extremely unfavorable situation in relation to Russia in the world. Usually, in such cases, countries try to defuse this situation and defuse the situation, and you, on the other hand, rush to the embrasure in the name of some "new world order" to the end.

[DenZ]

Quote: Herald of Revia

Usually in such cases, countries try to defuse this situation and quit the situation

already rolled back in the 90s got the most indulge. So now none of ours indulge, I think, will not. And you still better to worry about your patrimony.

[DenZ]

Quote: Herald of Revia

You are simply building up an empty space

Violated the state border, is it an empty place?

[nov_tech.vrn]

all sanctions have been planned for a long time, now, the sixes are fulfilling the task both at sea and on the Internet

[SASHA OLD]

Herald, stop writing substances under substances

[asiat_61]

Well, Poles do not understand !!! Lyakham not used to licking a boot, and no matter whose, would be a boot.

[mvd ru]

Scared a hedgehog ....

[The Siberian barber]

There are used tires .. Four wheels .. Skinte address - I will send

[Machito]

Quote: Herald of Revy

Quote: Svarog

flood definitely ..

Well, grab sanctions in response to the most do not spoil, like Iran and once Cuba, that is, a complete embargo on everything. How do you like this prospect?

Stop scaring us.
Hitler was already scared.

[gurzuf]

Why did you buy electrical tape in the market?

[Terenin]

Quote: Herald of Revy

Quote: Svarog

flood definitely ..

Well, grab sanctions in response to the most do not spoil, like Iran and once Cuba, that is, a complete embargo on everything. How do you like this prospect?

All the same, you will not understand anything, you tolerant "our" foreigner, what Russians choose - to eat potatoes and bread and be independent, than how you "eat from the belly", but to be raped and offended at any moment and not even dare to squeak.
Py.sy. Judging by your "joyful" comments, you have already met the Russians "on a narrow path."

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Herald of Revia

do not spoil sanctions in response,

Oh, it woke up ... Do not be afraid for us, Ondriyka, improve your qualifications. And then, she-bo, zealously boring.

[Baloo]

Quote: Herald of Revia

Well, grab sanctions in response to the most do not spoil, like Iran

Your sanctions to us knee-deep and to the window.

[Random]

Quote: Herald of Revia

What is your perspective?

WHAT? ... Yes, you should all bow down to the moment that we have such .... "Supreme"
The embargo ..... well, I made fun of ... the faucet and ..... "white fur-bearing animal for you .. all"

[Dr. Aibolit 66]

"Who does not take risks, he does not drink champagne!"
To the toothless bear with a balalaika at the ready - this does not apply!

[Egor-dis]

Quote: Herald of Revia

Well, grab sanctions in response to the most do not spoil, like Iran and once Cuba, that is, a complete embargo on everything. How do you like this prospect?

A little nuance. Russia is not Cuba and Iran for you. At a minimum, the BRICS countries will send you and your embargo to hell. And from the reciprocal embargo of Russia, your European Union, together with the states, is at risk of surfacing upside down.

[Turist1996]

Fine! I am for! More sanctions, beautiful and harsh !! It is actually more beneficial for us !!
One problem only - Elvira with German - is strongly against ..
Then, in their opinion, in my Siberia I’m not so successfully integrating myself into the global economy, which basically makes the entire product in the tropics ..
Well, or obviously south of the 45th parallel.

[Borik]

Oh, and the cry will be to the whole world. But on the other hand, they started ramming things up to the end, or boarding them or drowning them, and there was nothing to pickle with them, otherwise they were completely unbelted.

[Random]

Quote: Svarog

Yes, the provocation of pure water, definitely flood ..

Yes, let it be at least something on their part ... at least "dancing with tambourines" ....
We have a STATE or so ....... in short there are no words from ...... All resigned from the Supreme Command, the Ministry of Defense and any other ... "relatives"

[prapor55]

Do not succumb to the provocation, do not drown, for we have enough dirt to deprive ourselves of the move and wait until the SOS is served. If at the same time something falls to the bottom to sue an almost European country and block access to the Sea of ​​Azov.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Svarog

Yes, a provocation of pure water,

Here, many people laugh, ask some obvious questions ...
There is a question for 100 of millions - IS THERE A WILL POLITICAL AT KREMLIN? And judging by the reaction of Moscow, or rather the absence of such, suggests that our Guarantor does not have political will.
And after all this, I won’t be surprised if the Svidomites begin shelling the Rostov Region, for example, or, say, try to destroy the Crimean Bridge. Anyway, Russia will rub off.
And now let's look from the Anglo-Saxons on this ...
All red lines are passed, and the Kremlin wipes itself and is silent. And do not crash then, say Khmeimi and Tartus cruise missiles? After all, they will not answer, because wimps with a small intestine.
These are the conclusions that Svidomity and Anglo-Saxons will make.

[dvina71]

Quote: NEXUS

DOES WILL WILL BE POLITICAL AT KREMLIN?

Since when have border guards been controlled from the Kremlin?

Quote: NEXUS

And after all this, I won’t be surprised if the Svidomites begin shelling the Rostov Region, for example, or, say, try to destroy the Crimean Bridge.

If this happens, then there will be an answer .. I have a question .. why will the bridge be attacked? Mriyami or Wishlist?

Quote: NEXUS

All red lines are passed, and the Kremlin wipes itself and is silent

Uh ... which ones? You need to calm the nerves ... otherwise you will start throwing people at your side for an oblique look ...
The Russians have a proverb .. "Even if you call it a pot, just don't put it in the oven ..."

[NEXUS]

Quote: dvina71

Since when have border guards been controlled from the Kremlin?

Do you recall the story of Powers and U-2?

Quote: dvina71

If this happens, then there will be an answer ..

Will it be serious? How will it be with SU-24 or IL-20? That is, none at all.

Quote: dvina71

I have a question .. why will the bridge be attacked? Mriyami or Wishlist?

Yes, whatever you like ... even from a helicopter, even from the SU-27 ... There would be a front command ...

Quote: dvina71

You need to calm the nerves ... otherwise you will start throwing people at your side for an oblique look ...

I'm calm. It's a shame for my power.

[dvina71]

Quote: NEXUS

Do you recall the story of Powers and U-2?

I see no analogies .. U-2 could bring down .. not steel. Khokhlov poked into the board .. showed the direction to the exit ..

Quote: NEXUS

Will it be serious? How will it be with SU-24 or IL-20? That is, none at all.

NU .. without starting a war .. the Kremlin’s response is quite adequate .. and very productive .. and I look bloodthirsty ...

Quote: NEXUS

But whatever you like ... even from a helicopter, even from the SU-27 ... There would be a command "face".

Yes, even from the death star .. WHAT?

Quote: NEXUS

I'm calm. It's a shame for my power.

I am not sorry that people are not trying to understand the situation, make decisions on emotions .. It's good that you do not make such decisions.

[NEXUS]

Quote: dvina71

I do not see any analogies .. U-2 could be shot down ... not steel.

Seriously? And violation of the state border is where? M. He does not see an analogy ...

Quote: dvina71

NU .. without starting a war .. the Kremlin’s response is quite adequate .. and very productive .. and I look bloodthirsty ...

Yes? And what? Put the barge across? But nothing that these pelvis Ukrainian-combat boats with weapons?
Under the USSR, for breaking the border, they shot down and planted and even stupidly pushed the same mattresses, in spite of the sanctions, the international stink, etc. ... otherwise, what’s the border of the state in general?

Quote: dvina71

I’m sorry that people are not trying to understand the situation, make decisions on emotions ..

I am sad that once again we’ll smack. And emotions have nothing to do with it.

[dvina71]

Quote: NEXUS

Seriously? And violation of the state border is where? M. He does not see an analogy ...

I don’t ... I don’t see .. Show. Besides violation of the border ..

.

Quote: NEXUS

Yes? And what?

I'm talking about Su and Il .. As for PSKR .. Then this pelvis is 1500t displacement .. on board 4 metal cutters .. One is enough for the whole .. the remains of ukroflot ..

Quote: NEXUS

I am sad that once again we’ll smack. And emotions have nothing to do with it.

It is emotions that affect the perception of what happened ..

[Doka 88]

Then raise from the bottom and flood again and so on 25 and a half times

[yehat]

flood unequivocally

you would have studied history. how many times the reasoning "unambiguously flood", "punish", etc. led to a full ass. Remember how WWI started - countries just started exchanging these kinds of things. They were all proud, unyielding, self-confident, and then they all turned out to be plucked by chickens and were no longer so proud, which the completely left sides like the USA or Brazil began to bend over. Yes, yes, even Brazil and Argentina got their gesheft with WWI, and everyone who fought got devastation, hunger, inflation, revolution and other joys.
So maybe you should first consider the statements?

[Uncle lee]

Quote: NEXUS

drown or capture

It is impossible to drown, a scandal ... But you need to arrest and bring to the nearest port, as a trespasser!

[Svarog]

Quote: Uncle Lee

Quote: NEXUS

drown or capture

It is impossible to drown, a scandal ... But you need to arrest and bring to the nearest port, as a trespasser!

One scandal is less than the other, to shoot live and show how our border guards are calling for an end to provocation attempts, after long calls and warnings the Wehrmacht vessel is sinking, to applause ..

[Machito]

Survivors arrested and tried for aggression.
And harder.

Stop flirting with the Euro-fascists.

[IL-18]

Quote: Bearded

Survivors arrested and tried for aggression.
And harder.

Stop flirting with the Euro-fascists.

Yeah, there immediately the whole crew will turn into Coca and minders. Like I didn’t know where I was swimming.

[210ox]

Vladimir So where are these vessels at the bottom or left? Of course it wasn’t necessary to let out.

[Svarog]

Quote: 210ox

Vladimir So where are these vessels at the bottom or left? Of course it wasn’t necessary to let out.

So while I myself know exactly how much, how much is written ..

[Hoc vince]

Obvious provocation. Substitute their ships under attack, so that later in all the media high lift. Paving the way for cancellation of elections?

[venik]

Quote: Hoc vince

Obvious provocation. ..... Set the stage for canceling elections?

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No! It's too early for "elections"! For the Session of the UN General Assembly "guessed".

[zalegg]

of course a provocation. somewhere the Barmalean plane should be. and our reaction is written and the means involved

[Livonetc]

What is a scandal?
Georgian drowned.
What is better banderlog?

[NEXUS]

Quote from Uncle Lee

You can’t drown, scandal ...

Who is the scandal with? With Ukraine? So what? Is there a violation of the border? Yes! Ukrainians didn’t really think about the scandal, when they took Nord to board ...
And then there are three battle vessels ... And to interrogate the Ukrainian sailors, so that they could tell on camera who they thought of them.

[Uncle lee]

Quote: NEXUS

Who is the scandal with? With Ukraine?

Yes, on the edge of ugh and grind! The scandal is planned wider - Russia as a world aggressor and a pirate at sea! Everything needs to be done within the framework of the Law on Navigation and the State Border .... Although it is still blamed for all mortals ...

[NEXUS]

Quote from Uncle Lee

The scandal is planned wider - Russia as a world aggressor and a pirate at sea!

Is the fact of border violation the combat ships of Ukraine? And this is called diversion. So that it wasn’t bad, it’s necessary to drown, otherwise there will be more. And breaking the border will become commonplace, and the seizure of our ships, too.
For such things, you have to beat in the face, in this arrogant crest of Khokhlyat, so that you no longer have the urge to play such games with us.

[Uncle lee]

Border boats of the Sobol type, PSKR Don, boats of the Mongoose type, MPK Suzdalets carried out openly aggressive actions against the ships of the Ukrainian Navy, ”the message says. This is reported by Rambler. Further: https://news.rambler.ru/world/41324262/?utm_content=rnews&utm_medium=read_more&utm_source=copylink
That's the cry ukrosmi!

[Random]

Quote from Uncle Lee

That's the cry ukrosmi!

So what? Where on our side is even the ambassador’s call and ... his announcement by the person non-grant? Where is the gap of diplomatic relations? Where Where is the convocation of the UN Security Council with a speech on the commission of the Act of aggression against Russia? Where at least ... anything?
We are waiting for "Masha" to tweet something in Tweet about concern and somewhere not some festival again .. "ignite"?
Why is this not a reason to give "horses" horns in all ... directions?
And that's all ... the solution to all problems .... now we already have the experience of "August 2008" ... what else do you need then?

[Antares]

Quote: NEXUS

Is the fact of border violation the combat ships of Ukraine? And this is called diversion

what is the fact ?? The fact that a group of Ukrainian ships tried to go to the Sea of ​​Azov by Kerch through the Yenikal Canal? Treat as diversion ??? What are they - were they dragging explosives to the bridge?
The transition of warships of Ukraine and the Russian Federation is carried out unhindered according to the inland sea treaty!
Warships generally have little to fix, like merchant ships. Especially according to the articles of the contract
And they are charged

violation of Articles 19 and 21 of the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea, defining the right of a coastal state to ensure safety in the sea, crossed the state border of the Russian Federation, illegally entered the temporarily closed waters of the territorial sea of ​​the Russian Federation

That's how it is! And then each side in their opinion what to consider their own.
In general, in order to avoid a conflict at the international level, a good RF should be sued.
Or, by force, try to decide everything to substitute your military and trade in other international straits!
In any case, there is always a choice of solution. Power. judicial, mixed.
And a request to all "hurray patriots" with calls to bomb, drown, shoot ... think that the world is not only the Kerch Yenikalsky Canal ...
sometimes the actions of the Kremlin are much more justified than the opinions of Russians.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Antares

what is the fact ?? The fact that a group of Ukrainian ships tried to go to the Sea of ​​Azov by Kerch through the Yenikal Canal? Treat as diversion ??? What are they - were they dragging explosives to the bridge?

Dear, nothing that these pelvis are armed? That is, it is BATTLE UNITS, not a civilian Nord.

Quote: Antares

And a request to all "hurray patriots"

Like the wisest ... oh, I don’t like such womniks.

Quote: Antares

sometimes the actions of the Kremlin are much more justified than the opinions of Russians.

Seriously? Then the wise guy tell the validity of the Kremlin recognition of the legitimacy of Parasha, as well as the supply of fuel and lubricants to Ukraine. Yeah.

[zhekazs]

Quote: NEXUS

. Drown!

To demolish everything above deck with a couple of lines, arrest and confiscate the court, arrest the team, interrogate and go to jail. Why drown? It is necessary by law.
But really a mess. From seven in the morning - for five hours, these pelvis drive, can not do anything. Ugh ...

[Boa kaa]

Quote from Uncle Lee

It is impossible to drown, a scandal ... But you need to arrest and bring to the nearest port, as a trespasser!

1. Well, with a tug wherever you go ... you can and arrest ...
2. And what to do with armored boats !? After all, this is a "combatant" under international law. Under the flag of the offending state ... Does that remind you of anything? Gulf of Tonkin, for example? No?
3. It is necessary to demand in strict form from Svidomo the fulfillment of the Treaty and the rules for using the Kerch Strait with its permit procedure.
4. Raise the question in the UN Security Council and warn the United States and Co. about measures so that it will not be so in the future.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

4. Raise the question in the UN Security Council and warn the United States and Co. about measures so that it will not be so in the future.

Sasha, are you serious about the UN now? Who will listen there? The Ukrainians are being trained in order to provoke us to a forceful response, so that later they would type us as an aggressor country to the world.
But in fact, we were already designated as such in the history of Crimea and Donbass.
In this case, this is a test of us for lice. We will give it by hand or not ... and here, I am sure, it was not even necessary to give it by hand, but by the face.
And then, let Parasha flee to the UN and cry that the best Ukrainian Navy is offending.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: NEXUS

Are you serious about the UN? Who will be there to listen?

Andrew,
The essence is different: so that they will not say that we did not warn them!
From the high tribune, loudly, to the whole world ...
And then: who did not hide - I am not guilty!

[NEXUS]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

And then: who did not hide - I am not guilty!

Serpent, friend, so how many warnings were there before that? So what? Where is the action? It was a crime and not just once, but where is the punishment? No need to pull the cat by ... As the Guarantor said proudly, if fights cannot be avoided, beat first!
Well, where is it for everyone?

[BARKHAN]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

1. Well, with a tug wherever you go ... you can and arrest ...

Actually, they are simply obliged.

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

2. And what to do with armored boats !? After all, this is a "combatant" under international law. Under the flag of the offending state ... Does that remind you of anything? Gulf of Tonkin, for example? No?

And they just don't give a damn about it.

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

3. It is necessary to demand in strict form from Svidomo the fulfillment of the Treaty and the rules for using the Kerch Strait with its permit procedure.

Svidomo do not care about our attempts. They have a different goal.

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

4. Raise the question in the UN Security Council and warn the United States and Co. about measures so that it will not be so in the future.

Everyone doesn’t give a damn about us. And they don’t give a damn about the laws. It's just that the war is already on. They are already fighting with us. Just by such methods. And we are constantly lagging behind a step or two. Five years of worries and inaction are not just ridiculous, but criminal.

[Baloo]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

Raise a question in the UN Security Council and warn the United States and K * about measures so that from now on it would not be bad

The most sober look at the event. This provocation is not the last, expected and predictable. It’s time to once again conduct exercises in the Sea of ​​Azov to repel aggression from the sea with the use of all forces, including and coastal artillery.

[zhekazs]

Quote: Balu

once again conduct exercises in the Sea of ​​Azov to repel aggression from the sea with the use of all forces, including and coastal artillery.

We need exercises to repel the attack on the Kerch bridge, that’s where the danger is now for us, thousands of our citizens cross the strait every day, and these pelvis pose a threat to them. And ideally, in general, prohibit the proximity and passage of foreign warships under it.

[Baloo]

Quote: zhekazs

Doctrines are needed to repel the attack on the Kerch bridge, that's where the danger

Actually, I had this in mind, especially since there was infa at the VO about the preparation of a group of underwater saboteurs by banderababuins.

[Random]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

And what to do with armored boats !? After all, this is a "combatant" under international law.

Sasha, dear ... but what about our "Fearless" and amerovsky "Yorktown", our SKR-6 and amerovsky destroyer "Karon"?
And our Armed Forces are official and regular ... where does the "combatant" have to do with it?

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Random

.what has to do with the "combatant"?

Seryozha! Combatant - casus belli! - reason for war ...
And we are trying in every way to prevent this, so as not to shed the blood of the brotherly people. Bandera-zapadentsev-those dug in Kiev, on the front of the day with fire you will not find! In the trenches and on the boats the lop-eared Ukrainian lads are a few months ago from Mommy's tits ...
Adult men they soberly argue: not our war is the Oligarchs, ... for power, for the opportunity to trade Ukraine for the sake of their self-interest ...
And if it still subsides, then it will be a change of regime to pro-Russian ... therefore, they rub and scramble, but they don’t take the time to fight, because they understand that the curators will not save and will have to run again to Albion ... either in Canada ... to the fascist henchmen and 45 nedobit of the year entrenched there.
Somehow, however.

[Random]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

cause for war.

Sasha, this is a reason for us since 2014 ... which we "safely" ... "asked ... fell"

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

And we are doing our best to prevent this, so as not to shed the blood of the fraternal people.

This is our most important mistake. Something during the Second World War, I did not hear ... "bratsik German people"

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

In the trenches and on the boats Ukrainian lop-eared couples from mother's boobs torn off a couple of months ago ...

Sasha is their problem ... we don’t touch them and it’s not us ... "we start", so ... don’t get involved.
Therefore, I am in favor of acting strictly according to VMUstav - to warn, very much to warn, very much to warn and ... if it does not help, then ..... the bottom is big "

[another RUSICH]

Well, then we can’t drown, but can we shoot down the Turks?
Can Turks have more eggs and poher scandal for them?

[Antares]

Quote: another RUSICH

Well, then we can’t drown, but can we shoot down the Turks?
Can Turks have more eggs and poher scandal for them?

they have a pipe, nuclear power plants, straits ... and their influence on Syria ..
that is, they themselves hold the Kremlin for eggs.

[Random]

Quote from Uncle Lee

You can’t drown, scandal ...

Who cannot ... what cannot ... at home? Calling us in violation of the State Border is an ACT of AGGRESSION against the STATE
And you and your "guarantor-tolerast" ... all of Russia is so ... profiting ... SHAME

[dvina71]

Quote: Random

Who cannot ... what cannot ... at home?

Not at home, but in the temporarily closed zone of the territorial sea of ​​the Russian Federation. Temporarily closed due to the bridge .. Passage under which is carried out with the supervision of the Russian authorities. Ukrainians decided that there were enough announcements of intent on Facebook and went under the bridge .., the armored boats were nimble .. but the tugboat from PSKR got on board .. Now the three of them hang 6 miles from the bridge ... they came to the rescue from Berdyansk two armored boats .. All the most interesting things are ahead .. will Ukrainians go on a breakthrough or merge ..?

[Random]

Quote: dvina71

Not at home, but in a temporarily closed zone of the territorial sea of ​​the Russian Federation. Temporarily closed due to the bridge.

I repeat once again ... FIRST we crossed the state border, but that's why we have already entered the "temporary waters".

[dvina71]

Quote: Random

FIRST crossed the state border,

Gosgnraitsa on the sea .. concept .. such a thing ..

The territorial waters are counted from the line of greatest low tide (if the coast has calm outlines) or from the borders of inland waters, or from the so-called base lines (imaginary straight lines connecting the ledges of the coast to the sea, if the coast is deeply indented, winding, or if there is a chain near the coast islands).

International law does not allow the extension of territorial waters beyond 12 nautical miles (22,2 km), however, some states unilaterally established wider territorial waters (for example, Brazil, Peru, Sierra Leone, Uruguay, Ecuador, etc.).

Ships of all states enjoy the right of peaceful passage through territorial waters, subject to the provisions of the Convention (the passage should not violate the safety of the coastal state, submarines can only pass in the surface, etc.). According to the internal legislation of some states, foreign warships can pass through their territorial waters and enter into internal sea waters only with the prior permission of the government of the corresponding state.

The implementation by foreign vessels of marine fishing, hydrographic work and research in the territorial waters of most states (in the absence of a special agreement) is prohibited.

We are concerned only with the highlighted. Ukrainians want their own way .., and our law.

[Random]

Quote: dvina71

Gosgnraitsa on the sea .. concept .. such a thing ..

Come on.....

[dvina71]

Quote: Random

Come on.

And more specifically?

[Random]

Quote: dvina71

And more specifically?

More specifically, this is for ... sailors But such as according to your principle .. "at sea everything is allowed .. walk a flaw" ... does not exist
And I propose to switch to another branch ... there is the same ... "interesting" (well, this is where ... "ChiP" and "DALE" .. hurry to help "

[dvina71]

Quote: Random

More specifically, this is for ... sailors

Get out of bed ... and so did it ... so did it ...

[Antares]

Quote: dvina71

According to the internal legislation of some states, foreign warships can pass through their territorial waters and enter into internal sea waters only with the prior permission of the government of the corresponding state.

there is a key - some
AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION AND UKRAINE ON COOPERATION IN THE USE OF THE AZOV SEA AND THE KERCHEN STRAIGHT
1. Merchant ships and warships, as well as other state vessels flying the flag of the Russian Federation or Ukraine, operated for non-commercial purposes, are used in the Sea of ​​Azov and Kerch Strait freedom of navigation.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: NEXUS

If provoked, it means ...

So Porasenko was going to raise his garbage rating before the elections ...
It is a pity that the boars decided to cook up all this on New Year's Eve ...
"Gift" instead of a Christmas tree? ...
Again, problems on the table instead of champagne, snacks and roasts ...
Not good somehow ...

[Halado Romane]

To drown! Stop enduring these geeks!

[210ox]

It is strange that for the call to "drown" you put a minus .. Probably the witcher noted.

[Baloo]

Quote: Halado romance

To drown! Stop enduring these geeks!

Banderbabuins on these dill troughs were sure that they would not be fired at. It's time to disappoint. They didn’t shoot in vain on superstructures or from a helicopter across the course. Next time, where will they trample? you need to be prepared for this. No one should have doubts about our determination to protect our borders at sea.

[Random]

Quote: Balu

Banderbabuins on these dill troughs were sure that they would not be fired at. It's time to disappoint.

Do you have any posts ... controversial? At the top you write that you cannot touch the "horses", but ours need to conduct exercises with art shooting, etc.
And then ... let's act as it should ...
You really decide ..... who are you for .. "for whites" il for "red"?

[another RUSICH]

And the fool understands that all these "dances" of the bastards are being done with the aim of provoking, which means in any case there will be a pig screeching about the "ahresia" of Russia, and since the result is the same, why ram? Olna rocket and run to mommy "", like the nosed in 080808

[Random]

Quote: NEXUS

If provoked, then you need to drown or capture without looking at the Svidomo visas, so that they understand that there will be no games with them.

Andrey .... friend ... who will ... "drown or capture" .... "Garant & Co"? ... I beg you .....
They will also express concern and apologize for the fact that they "met" and did not understand ... "the good intentions ..." of the Ukrainian brothers.
God .... what a shame ... no words ....

[NEXUS]

Quote: Random

Andrey..

Friend

Quote: Random

"drown or capture" .... "Guarantor & Co"? ... I beg you .....

I see that patronage in the Kremlin has become commonplace.

Quote: Random

God .... what a shame ... no words ....

How there- ... you get both war and shame. Apparently not a horse feed, since our Kremlin steering-zagrebny do not understand this.

[Random]

Quote: NEXUS

How there- ... you get both war and shame. Apparently not a horse feed, since our Kremlin steering-zagrebny do not understand this.

Wow ... friend ... I heard it like this in the morning ... I can't even eat .... and on the news they say that "... ours continue to wait for an entry request", and armored boats continue to move towards strait "?
What is it like ?

[NEXUS]

Quote: Random

What is it like ?

This is called-CHECK US FOR LICE. And the reaction time has already passed. That is, the Kremlin, alas, has NO political will. And this means that in the near future we will get a hemorrhoid because we are very good, well, and bases at our borders at arm's length.

[Random]

Quote: NEXUS

This is called-CHECK US FOR LICE.

Not Andrei ... this is called ... "dipping his head in ... a latrine" .. with all the consequences that follow ... since you cannot communicate with ... "offended"
And to receive ... so "we are" accustomed "and at their dachas-palaces and ... other, other ... does not apply

[NEXUS]

Quote: Random

Not Andrey ... it's called ... "dipping his head in ... a latrine"

No friend ... WET will be a bit later. So far this is a check for the thickness of the intestine and the presence of parasitic insects on the body.
So let's say reconnaissance in battle. They will look at our reaction, actions, and then ... everything that you said about the latrine.

[Random]

Quote: NEXUS

They will look at our reaction, actions, and then ... everything that you said about the latrine.

Friendly ... it's already 13.11 Moscow time and ... no new .. "details" .... from 7.00. that ... there was not enough time or everyone in the headquarters .. "got their underpants wet", what can I change for dry ones already ... no strength?

[NEXUS]

Quote: Random

so it is already 13.11 Moscow time and ... no new .. "details" ..

Worst of all, there will be more further. When the Kremlin stopped the Novorossians in attacking Kharkov, the strategy was such ... but no ... stupidly pissed off in the Kremlin. And today's history is another confirmation of this.

[Random]

Quote: NEXUS

I thought such a strategy

Andrey .. it is common for all people to make mistakes (and I am also mistaken ... it happens), but in relation to ... "a scrubber in toilets" ... everything is clear and simple ... like life

[Boa kaa]

Quote: NEXUS

if our Kremlin helmsmen do not understand this.

Andrey, you are not right! (But not a lion! - mind you)
Putin understands everything perfectly, and Lavrov, too, and Shoigu ...
But to get into a deaf mn isolation with our economy ... I personally would not want any ruler! We still think in imperial categories of the Union, and the Russian Federation has long been not a Union, but a pale shadow of "Hamlet's father." The 12th, not 2nd place in the table of economic ranks is occupied by the country. Now China has taken the place of the Union. But the clever "kitais" are not particularly in a hurry to lend us their union shoulder ... And we do not have a pink security belt in the form of the Internal Affairs Directorate and the countries of the social community along the perimeter of our borders, and 20 states of social orientation. The rearmament of the Army and the Navy has not been completed, the new look of the Armed Forces has not been formed, the people are not morally and psychologically prepared for war .. And you are in one soul - let us fight !!!
Therefore, it is good to reason-condemn the rulers, not having full information and not bearing for it any responsibility to millions of fellow citizens.
And then, it seems to me, in this situation, folk wisdom is right: "A thin world is better than a good quarrel!"
IMHO.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

And then, it seems to me, in this situation, folk wisdom is right: "A thin world is better than a good quarrel!"

Sasha, what is the evil world for the Devil? What are you talking about? The war has long been declared and is ongoing. Sanctions, the economic, informational, cybernetic war did not end. And the fact that we were designated by the ENEMY all over the world, and Obama did it yet is this? Wake up? What kind of world are you talking about right now?
And the arms race is even recognized by the Kremlin. This is visible from a good world. Building nuclear capacity is what, friend? Bases at our borders, exit from the INF Treaty ... then you propose to sit and hope that there is no war?
They kill Russians, oppress them all over the world, make a world scarecrow out of our country ... and here you are talking about peace.
The time of peace has passed in the 14 year of the last century. And do not pretend that nothing is happening.

[businessv]

Quote: NEXUS

If provoked, then you need to drown or capture without looking at Svidomo visas, so that they understand that there will be no games with them

Bravo, colleague! This is the main problem - "ah, ah, they have violated the shameless, but what are we? We are nothing! We are good!" violated - warning shot, do not react - shot to kill, only this way, otherwise this chaos will never end! If they had acted this way, then the ships of the Svidomites were already parked in Kerch, or lay at the bottom. Now the Foreign Ministry still has to connect to this garbage to express concern! Liberals do not get excited! Your opinion is known!

[Alexanast]

If provoked, then you need to drown or capture without looking

Andrew,
In fact, as far as I remember, border crossing by armed entities is equivalent to armed invasion - fire opens without warning. Why are these pelvis still floating?

[Hto tama]

It’s clear that it’s a provocation, in their last passage through the Kerch Strait in Ukraine, it was arranged as a military operation. Not a word about the permission to pass them was received. Hence the conclusion is to provoke us to shoot. If you miss what they will do whether they just go through the strait or try to attack the bridge? In any case, the alignment is bad for us, if you don’t.

[max702]

First, go low on supersonic over these troughs .. They don’t understand warning firing and seizure of vessels .. Let combat swimmers work out the bread ..

[Leshy1975]

Quote: NEXUS

If provoked, then you need to drown or capture without looking at the Svidomo visas, so that they understand that there will be no games with them.

How will it be games? And what have we (RF) been doing since 2014? One recognition of the "best choice" and the HSP in the form of the Minsk agreements, what is there if not games? It is gambling, where multibillion-dollar fortunes are at stake, and the stake is the lives of ordinary citizens, both in the Russian Federation and in Ukraine. I will say that those citizens, including those of Ukraine, of course, who understand this, are still my friend and brother and we are fellow citizens (yes, even by birth in the USSR). But with the current authorities of both the Russian Federation and Ukraine, the games really need to end, it is dangerous, they are playing with our lives. And without the current authorities (as well as the Russian Federation and Ukraine), without their selfish interests, we will find a common language and a path to unification. If the games are over.

[Antares]

Quote: Leshy1975

I will say that those citizens of Ukraine, of course, also who understand this, as before, I’m both a friend and a brother and we are fellow citizens (yes, even by birth in the USSR). But with the current authorities of both the Russian Federation and Ukraine, the games really need to end, it’s dangerous, they play with our lives. And without the current authorities (as well as the Russian Federation and Ukraine), without their selfish interests, we will find a common language and a path to unification. If the games are over.

there we are all hostages of the games of the "partners" of the Kremlin and Bankova. It's amazing that people are being fought for cheap manipulation and information warfare in the age of the Internet and information. There are enough resources to study the situation from two or more sides and draw YOUR conclusion. And not trust your conclusion to someone else.

[Leshy1975]

Quote: Antares

Quote: Leshy1975

I will say that those citizens of Ukraine, of course, also who understand this, as before, I’m both a friend and a brother and we are fellow citizens (yes, even by birth in the USSR). But with the current authorities of both the Russian Federation and Ukraine, the games really need to end, it’s dangerous, they play with our lives. And without the current authorities (as well as the Russian Federation and Ukraine), without their selfish interests, we will find a common language and a path to unification. If the games are over.

there we are all hostages of the games of the "partners" of the Kremlin and Bankova. It's amazing that people are being fought for cheap manipulation and information warfare in the age of the Internet and information. There are enough resources to study the situation from two or more sides and draw YOUR conclusion. And not trust your conclusion to someone else.

What can I say, especially the elderly, if they didn’t show on TV that doesn’t exist. So in my family, personally to me, I have someone to discuss with and to teach information from the network. Well, there’s no other way, only agitation and propaganda. Our people, against the state. The main thing is not to lie, people in the end all understand one thing, where the truth is.

[Antares]

Quote: Leshy1975

What can I say, especially the elderly, if they didn’t show on TV that doesn’t exist.

what is strange is that mostly young people burn with a bang patriotism. The old ones do not sit under imprinting.

[Kent0001]

You are wrong .... only indignation and concern, that is, we’ll smack again.

[seregatara1969]

Probably you can’t drown - a narrow and small fairway. and soak and no nails!

[Incvizitor]

You can’t meet and understand all of this fshatka kodla, they just feel lousy, look at the reaction, to what extent they are ready to bend and each time they want to chop off more and more, then get in until they pile on that they just calm down.

[Hypersound]

Instead, our command made a "brilliant" decision ... to ram the tugboat, while losing its own boat. Are they mentally retarded there?

[nov_tech.vrn]

do not judge others by yourself, read about bulk what it is, how much it costs to paint and putty, if everything is done correctly

[g1v2]

Difficult question. Of course I want to drown, but there is one BUT - they want this. All this is intended for us to sink one of their scows. If we drown, it means they won and got what they wanted. Their fleet after the loss of Crimea does not matter, so no one is sorry for him. It will be necessary - they will sacrifice all of it. There is nothing of value there.
In my opinion, you need to carefully land them. For example, shoot dviglo or ram. And then use this precedent to close the strait. It would be better, of course, for them to be the first to open fire on us. But unfortunately we will not be given such a gift. They provoke competently. In fact, they do nothing aggressive - they do not start firing. But by all means they provoke us to aggression. Most likely, an electorate is being prepared before the elections and they are trying to mobilize it under Petya.

[Antares]

Quote: g1v2

For example, shoot dviglo or ram.

whoever opens fire first will be put at a disadvantage. Especially in the strait ...
And if in response everyone opens fire ?. Oh well. I don’t want to think what consequences the first and second can have — open one of them fire. There are merchants, the military, the strait .. the situation around countries, international warnings ... everyone is waiting for the Russian Federation to stumble somewhere ... is it not enough to shoot near the platforms and there are border violations during production? There is already a trial in this case .. And here is a whole war in the strait.

[Ivan Ivanov]

Quote: NEXUS

If provoked, then you need to drown or capture without looking at the Svidomo visas, so that they understand that there will be no games with them.

Not our method. Ours is an asymmetric expression of concern.

[LeonidL]

They acted smarter - they skillfully rammed one galosh, the rest were deprived of the course and the special forces took them without loss. Kharoev was herded into the crew quarters to change their underwear, and the ships were pulled to Kerch to the penalty area. Those who remained at full speed rushed off to Berdyansk preparing to repel the landing !!!! landing !!!! well, just a laugh. Even more than the name "armored" ...

[faridg7]

Yes, drown them already, It's time to respect yourself.

[Observer2014]

Ukrainian armored boats violated the state border of the Russian Federation and paid

Than? From seven in the morning, what the hell is going on there. There is noise and noise on all channels. So will they violate the trespassers? Or what then did the air shake altogether. They would let it pass in silence. If you don’t want to do anything substantial, then they’ll wait today for all the media to start yelling about (a heroic breakthrough of emergency categories) through the blockade. And how they were afraid to touch them. In general, we are waiting for a denouement not boring already resurrection.

[Mar.Tirah]

Quote: Observer2014

Missed silently.

Are you out of your mind? Moreover, they still continue to move to the Kerch bridge. Do you know what they have in mind? I personally do not. And actually these are MILITARY boats of a potential enemy. If they miss this, it will be a severe blow to the reputation of naval units of the border troops and all the power of the Russian fleet. The Ukrainians, as always, neglect the civilized framework of behavior and must be stalled. We must act as it should, according to the charter, to protect the state border of Russia. Stop at all costs, if you disobey, shoot to kill.

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Quote: Mar. Tira

Are you out of your mind? Moreover, they still continue to move to the Kerch bridge. Do you know what they have in mind?

But it’s bad that you don’t know ... I remind you .. at all levels of the statement that "we are invaders and aggressors, we are waging a war against them, seizing their territories, and they will arm themselves a little more and go to attack the Kremlin." . well and all that jazz.
In the charter what is written ... I will stop shooting, ... into the air ... then, as we continue .... fire to kill ... but at the top we have only ... "soplezhui"

[Observer2014]

Mar.Tirah Oleg

Are you out of your mind? Moreover, they still continue to move to the Kerch bridge. Do you know what they have in mind?

Am I in my mind? Yes, the whole reputation of our frontier services, the Navy, is at stake. And all that stuff. If there is no command to stop this caravan. It would be better if they didn’t raise a howl. That's what I’m writing about. What are you saying to me? you know who to tell. I’m not giving orders.

[Mar.Tirah]

Quote: Observer2014

Yes, the whole reputation of our frontier services, the Navy, is at stake

Stopped, do not worry. Read below. In addition, a message has arrived. Simferopol, November 25. The passage through the Kerch Strait in Crimea was closed for civilian ships in connection with possible provocations by the ships of the Ukrainian Navy (Navy), which, in violation of the UN Convention, invaded the territorial waters of Russia. This was reported by a source in the transport sector of the Southern Federal District. And when it will not be opened, but the further movement of ANY vessel will be brutally suppressed. Sorry that I so sharply put it. It’s very disgusting to become with us.

[Antares]

Quote: Mar. Tira

The passage through the Kerch Strait in Crimea was closed for civilian ships in connection with possible provocations by the ships of the Ukrainian Navy (Navy), which, in violation of the UN Convention, invaded the territorial waters of Russia.

with this wording it is impossible to close Kerch Yenikalsky Canal for Ukrainian ships and ships. This is a violation of article 1 of the agreement on the Kerch Strait.
Speech about the "possible" and done already when the group left. Do you represent a similar formulation in the Bosphorus?

[asiat_61]

[quoteYes at stake the whole reputation of our frontier services, Navy] [/ quote] ... Yes, the Kremlin spat on any reputation.

[zhekazs]

Quote: Observer2014

From seven in the morning there the hell is going on.

Some kind of mess - they can’t catch them for five hours already. God forbid, of course, but terrorists with biological / chemical weapons will also entertain half a day? After all, the intruder is obvious, does not react, it is not clear what else is needed to give the queue for add-ons at least to stop. Again upstairs something muddy ...

[Mar.Tirah]

Quote: Observer2014

What?

Here's the bulk. The naval boat of the Navy specially followed the suicide bomber in tow and broadcast the bulk on air. This is a provocation of the guys and a breakthrough of the border by the enemy’s battle group.

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Quote: Mar. Tira

. The military boat of the Navy specially followed the suicide bomber in tug and broadcast this bulk

So it was necessary to immediately launch the entire three skakunsky fish to the chrome ... what would they transmit later ... to Neptune

[Mar.Tirah]

Quote: Random

So it was necessary to immediately let the entire three skakunskaya fish go to chrome.

Impossible at once. The fact is that they have the right to go there. But on a route agreed upon with the border control. But they didn’t need it. Therefore, they could go as far as possible into the depths of the territory of Russia. Ukrainian ships got up six miles from the Kerch bridge without moving.
Waiting for a team. The border guards of the Russian Federation are on alert, the situation is stably controlled.

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Quote: Mar. Tira

The fact is that they have the right to go there. But along the route agreed with the border control

And you change your proposals in places, then everything will be clear ... otherwise you are adjusting under .. "you cannot execute ... pardon"

Quote: Mar. Tira

how much they could not notice as much as possible to go deep into Russia.

And for this we generally need ... without a pension for ...
It's like ... to have so much of everything and everything in the Crimea and not to notice something?
So what for you, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, then you need .. together with your VKG and MO?
Give back the Crimea and the Kerch bridge ... and do not disgrace ... ugh ... already write disgusting ...

[Voker74]

Give the bridge back? Have you eaten fresh?

[Random]

Quote: Voker74

Give the bridge back? Have you eaten fresh?

So for that there would be no "shame" ... but there would be an ETERNAL SHAME ... it's like a BRAND for life
And if you don’t understand what SARCASM is and ... DEFINITION, then ... call me ... I can’t help

[Voker74]

I understand. Do not be nervous. Nerve cells are not restored.

[Random]

Quote: Voker74

I understand. Do not be nervous. Nerve cells are not restored.

Yes, this is understandable .. it’s just insulting for HOLD and for ..... 77% now and .. "reaping" ... "fruits"

[Observer2014]

Mar.Tirah (Oleg)

Ukrainian ships got up six miles from the Kerch bridge without moving.
Waiting for a team. The border guards of the Russian Federation are on alert, the situation is stably controlled.

So tell me. What is apparently going on negotiations. And a group of enemy ships six kilometers from the bridge. Is this normal? Or do they hastily draw up documents?

[Mar.Tirah]

Quote: Observer2014

.A group of enemy ships six kilometers from the bridge. Is this normal?

So the strait is common with Ukraine. They can pass under the bridge. Not long ago, 2 exactly the same boats of the Navy passed, and everything was fine. But the Kiev regime did not see this.

[Antares]

Quote: Mar. Tira

The Kiev regime did not see this.

where does not "suit" *? Last time, did they close the strait with the wording
"possible provocation"? No. Here and passed, even took advantage of the free pilot (according to the contract) No provocations. They were accompanied by Russian ships.
Все.
But this time the wording
"possible provocation" led to real provocation!
Some were closed from "provocations" so that others would go to it ...

[Mar.Tirah]

Good day

Quote: Antares

Quote: Mar. Tira

The Kiev regime did not see this.

where does not "suit" *? Last time, did they close the strait with the wording
"possible provocation"? No. Here and passed, even took advantage of the free pilot (according to the contract) No provocations. They were accompanied by Russian ships.
Все.
But this time the wording
"possible provocation" led to real provocation!
Some were closed from "provocations" so that others would go to it ...

Now it’s already clear what this provocation was for. To cancel the elections and declare martial law, to prolong the agony of Ukraine, and to keep Poroshenko in power.

[Mar.Tirah]

Quote: Observer2014

A group of enemy ships six kilometers from the bridge. This is normal.

At the moment, they stopped not because they were waiting for directions, but because they were squeezed out of their intended route and blocked by border boats and PSKR. https://crimeapress.info/korabli-vms-ukrainy-ostanovilis-v-shesti-miljah-ot-kerchenskogo-mosta/

[Observer2014]

Mar.Tirah (Oleg)

This is a provocation of the guys and a breakthrough of the border by the enemy battle group.

I understand that. You understand that. A bunch of people understand that. Then what? Will skip? Well, what's next. I don’t need to persuade me. What will our leadership do?

[Random]

Quote: Observer2014

Or what then was the air shaking altogether. We would have let it pass in silence. If you don’t want to do anything substantial with them.

Absolutely right ... time is up ... "crap around ... so wrap around in silence" and .. "wipe" if possible .... uhhhh SHAME

[Bull Terrier]

this is how to wet everyone who pushed you on the street))) what's the point?)))

[faridg7]

Quote: Bull Terrier

this is how to wet everyone who pushed you on the street))) what's the point?)))

No, this is to kill everyone who broke into your apartment. Your comparison looks "slightly" silly.

[Стена]

And what did you want to hear from the Kremlin boat.

[Svarog]

Quote: Bull Terrier

this is how to wet everyone who pushed you on the street))) what's the point?)))

Show the world that we’re not joking with border violators ..

[Bull Terrier]

so, what is next? in the world everyone will say something completely different) they will always have time to drown them. you have to be more flexible)

[Svarog]

Quote: Bull Terrier

so, what is next? in the world everyone will say something completely different) they will always have time to drown them. you have to be more flexible)

The border cannot be flexible, laws cannot be flexible .. I don’t urge to destroy Ukrainian sailors, just send a means of provocation to the bottom .. This flexibility will create a temptation for the following provocations ..

[Bull Terrier]

I, too, for) only as without corpses

[zhekazs]

Quote: Bull Terrier

you have to be more flexible)

Well, yes, can you come up with a new term - ukrotolerance? They played too much in an alternative story and an alternative reality, it’s time to give one’s brain (it’s not necessary to shoot and start a war, one needs to give adequate answers to their actions, not chew snot), and then they will continue in their drunken stupor.

[DenZ]

Quote: Bull Terrier

always have time to drown them. you have to be more flexible)

Is it like for example? Substitute the other cheek? This is not about the state border. A good warning, if they do not understand send to the bottom to hell, save the sailors and trial.

[faridg7]

Quote: Bull Terrier

so, what is next? in the world everyone will say something completely different) they will always have time to drown them. you have to be more flexible)

What difference does it make there in the world to gurgle? To be flexible, so that they bend as they want? One must respond to provocations so harshly and inadequately that even from the thought of provocation they feel worse.

[nov_tech.vrn]

as a flexible answer pour in feces until you drown yourself

[saigon]

Here another thing must be taken into account, either our Crimea and the sinking of the aggressors, or having missed warships, we recognize that Crimea is not ours.
So there is no choice. Violators to the bottom or to boarding. Other options for losing the recognition of the Crimea is not Russian as you say.

[Machito]

The border of the Russian Federation is sacred and inviolable. Any aggressor will be destroyed.

It’s like with Georgian missile boats.
VVP said: "Hit first, talk later."

[Bull Terrier]

so I'm only for !. just why? well, be there something serious ... and there are three ... treating both poachers and good.

[Random]

Quote: Bearded

VVP said: "Hit first, talk later."

And this was said by the now deceased Alexander Ivanovich Lebed, but your .. "vvp" ... already so many things ... "uttered" that .... "not to take away", but "things are ... now there "

[businessv]

Quote: Bull Terrier

this is how to wet everyone who pushed you on the street))) what's the point?)))

You really don’t understand, or is it exquisite trolling in a bull terrier way ?! It is a violation of the state border of Russia and a violation of the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea. And yet, yes, at first to warn, and only then - to wet!

[Alexanast]

what's the point?

The point is that when crossing the border by armed entities, fire should open without warning. (one of three cases ... )

[Random]

Quote: Bull Terrier

it's like everyone wet who pushed you on the street

Don't juggle ... the street is .. a "public" place for everyone .... but BORDER ... this is your home
And so you propose to let them into your apartment, and even ...... well, you give ... "urya, you are our patriotic"

[210ox]

Consider that the respect is over .....

[Boomandroid]

One vessel would have been flooded and this would not have happened.

[next322]

touches "competently" selected pictures in the title of the article ....... VO we are not talking about the Ukrainian border ship

[businessv]

Quote: next322

touches "competently" selected pictures in the title of the article ....... VO we are not talking about the Ukrainian border ship

And what's wrong with the pictures? I did not notice anything touching. Expand the thought, colleague, otherwise you all hints and pleasures please! The article was called the article. The author will not be allowed to offend

[Destiny]

"Selfless" at one time showed clearly what to do in this case with the offender.

[Machito]

Do not confuse warm with soft.

US destroyers are one thing, border bites of dwarf neighbors are another. If the aggressors are not given a tough response, their troughs will soon be splashing around the Kremlin.
To flush.

[kefan]

But isn’t it time to severely punish the insoles from 404?

[fruit_cake]

they only dream of being punished

[taiga2018]

that's what "concerns and worries ..." lead to.

[Bull Terrier]

to what? that three pelvis build themselves cruisers?)))

[taiga2018]

Quote: Bull Terrier

for what?

to the fact that Ukraine began to imagine itself as a great sea power ...

[Bull Terrier]

Well, let) the sense of that is zero. Well, drown them, think they stop? they need to tear down the joint venture. they will not arrange it

[taiga2018]

Quote: Bull Terrier

-Do you think they will stop?

it seems that in 2008 ours sank a couple of Georgian troughs and since then nothing Georgian has been floating at our borders ...

[Bull Terrier]

I do not mind) I just do not see the point. even if they drown it will not end. they have a goal and they go to it. there is a difference between give in the face or fill up the same)

[nov_tech.vrn]

and since 2008, after being forced to peace, there’s nothing to swim, only shit

[Incvizitor]

Well, drown them, think they stop?

Stop if ALL of their pelvis to sink.

[jovanni]

Quote: Bull Terrier

to what? that three pelvis build themselves cruisers?)))

They are building - they are not building, but they have completed their task. The provocation was provided. The FSB was doing it for six hours (at the moment). And now all sorts of "international community" will begin to point fingers at us. And the crews are great. Now they will be national "heroes". An example for the maydauns, as Russia can famously click on the nose. Free of charge. Therefore, the ships had to be sunk immediately. And the crew - a blanket and hot soup ...

[New Year day]

Yeah. If the gun hangs, then it should shoot. Europe worried, Ukraine provoked.
Learn how far we will answer

[Machito]

Only a tough answer to reason impudent aggressors. Georgian boats after 2008 and do not come close to the borders of the Russian Federation.

[denart50]

Quote: Silvestr

Yeah. If the gun hangs, then it should shoot. Europe worried, Ukraine provoked.
Learn how far we will answer

Duc ... the question of who is now as a gun: Russia or Ukraine ...
After all, it was not just a hint, but bluntly said: Ukraine may lose its independence by its actions ... Not that when it is now dependent on the West, but - complete, real ...
It’s a pity that Ukrainian politicians didn’t have enough mind to heed the warning ...

[Svarog]

Quote: denart50

It’s a pity that Ukrainian politicians didn’t have enough mind to heed the warning ...

So they don’t have their own minds, they decide everything for them in the USA, moreover, they have a self-preservation instinct and it doesn’t work ..

[mojohed2012]

Definitely - shoot and flood.
This is not the United States and not NATO, but from the decisiveness of the entire Russian Federation regarding the Poroshenko army, it will demonstrate that the Russian Federation is protecting its red lines by any means and forces and will not stop at nothing.
Even to discuss. Nothing to destroy.

[donavi49]

2 Group Gyurzy + Tug.

Here is a photo of the PSKR battering ram Don (745P - that is, the PSKR under the towing project) according to the Ukrainian tug from the GYURZA SUO.

[donavi49]

Here is a photo from the FSB.

[LiSiCyn]

Always surprised at your awareness

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Wow, a whole naval battle))) I had to go boarding !!! )))

[Orkraider]

Here is a photo of the PSKR battering ram Don (745P - that is, the PSKR under the towing project) according to the Ukrainian tug from the GYURZA SUO.

Not bad)))
If the tug is lost, and it is gaining water there is a good deal.

My opinion, you can’t drown, but to disrupt the provocation and put the Ukrainians in the Azov puddle and look like idiots is not bad.

Thanks for the photo!

[Hiller]

A pair of Mi-24 and a control overflight with shooting at the course - they themselves will run away. And do not express any Foreign Ministry concerns ...

[donavi49]

There, already pulled under 10 PSKR + UAV + IPC duty officer from Kerch came running.

While the confrontation on Matyukalniki + hit the Ukrainian Tug, from which he either lost track, or reduced it to 4-5 knots. Now Gyurza defend the Tug.

[faridg7]

And what's the point of letting go? There was already a bunch of recent Chinese warnings to stoke.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

It’s good to write nonsense ... You don’t need to drown anyone, but the test ram)))

[faridg7]

But I do not propose to heat SOMETHING, it is necessary to heat the violating vessels. Or do you have ships-animate thing?

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Well, what do you propose to open fire on Ukrainian ships? Would you take on such a responsibility in these conditions?

For violators of the state border, weapons are used in EXTREME cases, and only when it is impossible to detain them by other means and they can hide. In this case, using weapons at the border guards of a neighboring country will result in a border armed conflict ... And do not forget that there are 30-mm guns on the same Gyurza, from such a distance and they can respond with fire on our border ships ...

Well, they entered our waters, violated, ours found them, warned them, began to push them out, damaged the tugboat, generally handsome ...

Now, imagine the consequences in the current conditions if the Ukrainian border ship or tug were sunk as a result of the use of weapons by Russia and even if they did not return fire from their 30-mm cannons and left ?! Howl would have stood wild, and that is why they were sent as a "sacred sacrifice" ...

And now let them knock home, repair the tug))) They then have unmeasured money judging by their fleet))) ...

[faridg7]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

Well, what do you propose to open fire on Ukrainian ships? Would you take on such a responsibility in these conditions?

I would take such responsibility

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

For violators of the state border, weapons are used in EXTREME cases, and only when it is impossible to detain them by other means and they can hide.

These "intruders" are armed (and in general, how can a warship rushing into your territory be considered an intruder? This is an armed attack) and do not react to warnings. Should they still cry in their vest?

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

And do not forget that on the same Gyurza there are 30-mm guns, from such a distance and they can respond with fire on our border ships ...

I'm talking about sinking troughs, not damage. To do this, it is easier to work on them with anti-ship missiles, which are there. Moreover, we do not need to give them the opportunity to snap back.

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

Howl would have stood wild, and that is why they were sent as a "sacred sacrifice" ...

But the howl has already been raised, so I see no reason to leave them the means to repeat such provocations. Yes, and do not care about their howls, from me it is neither cold nor hot. Once again I say, the reaction to such provocations should be such that the whole world starts and fears to repeat. Otherwise, this audience does not come to normal.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

What do you think is the armed invasion of Ukraine, on three armored boats in Russia? What is the purpose of this invasion? Recover the Crimea? )))

This is pure provocation and its purpose was precisely to provoke retaliatory actions by Russia and for Kiev, the more blood there would be, the better. Because then Poroshenko and the entire junta would scream everywhere and everywhere that Russia drowned its entire fleet, that Ukraine is waging an unequal struggle for the European future, and Russia is oppressing them, etc. And I remind you that we consider Crimea to be Russian only, and five more states, and it’s not legal for the West to justify that Russia drowned the Ukrainian fleet in its territorial waters, since the West considers Crimea and its territorial waters to be the territory of Ukraine. That is, legally for the West we will be the aggressors, not Ukraine ...

Your theoretical attack and the drowning of the Ukrainian fleet would ultimately result in the very same United States intensifying its armament with the Kiev junta, including the Navy, and much more serious ships, while the whole public would only support this in the West, and with regard to Russia there would have been much more serious sanctions, including the blocking of trade with us, in history it has already happened more than once and has not brought us anything good, the United States has almost nothing to lose and more to gain because it deprives Europe of cheap gas and oil from Russia, and they provide themselves com marketing for its LNG ...

Everyone understands everything perfectly and the actions of Russia here were correct and just jewelry, the attack of the Ukrainian fleet was repelled, there was no blood, the enemy tug was damaged, there were no losses from our side. And in a week, they will forget about this conflict, unless of course Ukraine again doesn’t take anything into account ...

To award all of ours ...

[sir_obs]

Well, what do you propose to open fire on Ukrainian ships? Would you take on such a responsibility in these conditions?

This responsibility has already been assigned to the commander of the border ship, as well as his right to use weapons in violation of the state border. In case of violation of the state border, only the FCT violation matters and no other circumstances are taken into account, unless there is another direct order to do otherwise. Which is quite possible, but such orders usually endanger the lives of our border guards, no matter what the reasons for it are caused and justified.
First, a warning volley is given, then the stem from ak630 is carefully cut, then either the target is destroyed or the inspection group is planted on it if the intruder stops resistance.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

It’s so good to shoot at poachers, and to open fire at armored boats is almost 100% will return fire ...

Then you go raking at the UN? How will you explain to the West that this was precisely the invasion? So far, they recognize Crimea as Ukrainian ...

What then to do if the countries of the West simply arrange for us a trade blockade like Iran?

No need to create problems from scratch ...

[ODERVIT]

Planned provocation. How will ours work, softly or will there be a boom? It’s time, probably, to tumult, so that it isn’t obsolete anymore? Well, just a tug, as well as an armored boat, would blow the minds of the guys.

[zhekazs]

Quote: ODERVIT

It's time to probably turn up

You know, I believe that it was necessary to squander much earlier, so to speak for prevention, and immediately after the Crimea there were occasions with mining platforms, if only if you showed them Kuzkin’s mother on the Black Sea, then there would be something different a mess, they wouldn’t even hear about Nord. And now we have what we have, and Garant’s soft policy in many areas is visible, I don’t understand, maybe he has some kind of moves ...

[Antares]

Quote: zhekazs

with mining platforms, if only if you showed them Kuzkin’s mother on the Black Sea,

just shooting according to the Ukrainian version, was on the plane (breaking through the fuselage) and on the ships.
But how many shooting was between our countries ...

[Kapkan]

Has it started? At last...

[kebeskin]

Well, let’s express our concern again!

[Rostislav Prokopenko]

At the bottom of the pelvis!
But save the crews and interrogation under cameras!

[anjey]

Ukrainians do not wash themselves so much with asking for big luli, they obviously work out the Western order for a provocation, especially in Syria, the militants have well-cheated, everything is going to aggravate the situation, Russia hold on and answer worthy of all these provocateurs, so that it would continue to be inconsistent ....

[Oleg1263]

Plus, today the EU summit on Britain’s exit from the European Union .... We are waiting for the evening to condemn Russia's actions in the Azov / Black Seas. A question for those who know how much fuel the violators have on their vehicles?

[zhekazs]

Quote: anjey

Ukrainians do not wash so riding on a large lyuli beg,

Khokhlov has nothing to eat, and they think that if we conquer them, we will put them to contentment. They still remember how to eat and drink for free, and here they are nostalgic for being stupid.

[asar]

About Syria! What a misunderstanding? West set, barmaley pulnuli! What misunderstanding then?
And the evacuation of the barmaleev on the "turntables" of amers? Also a "misunderstanding"?
That's all "understanding" for me!

[alex-cn]

I would also like to be drowned on the spot and showed everyone that in our waters .... yes, only the 39th year also began with a seemingly insignificant provocation ..

[Guards turn]

Comrade Stalin gave the order.
Words by S. Mikhailov. Music by M. Krasev.
Comrade Stalin gave the order:
“At a terrible hour, my friends!”
And from the Germans people became
To clean your edges.

And from the sea to the sea
The Bolsheviks rose
And from the sea to the sea
The Russian regiments got up.

Do not tell in a children's fairy tale
Not a word, not a pen,
How helmets flew from the Germans
Near Moscow and near Orel,
Like, stepping on the Germans,
Red fighters fought
Our army is dear
Our brothers and fathers.

[Wedmak]

It began ... at those distances even Gyurza are dangerous, so a little jerking is at the bottom of both.

[cat hippopotamus]

Arrest and imprison as hooligans, but seriously, this is a clear provocation and we must act in accordance with international rules. The Ukrainian side will answer for everything.

[Separ]

They probably think that they are former brothers and they can do anything. But no ... friendship is friendship and service is service. "Tovs!"

[Mountain shooter]

Not drowned? Consider the dillites lucky. And it would be better to seize ships - nafig violators. And tow it to Kerch. Together with the crews it is "thoughtful" to work ...

[donavi49]

So they will be against it. And they will begin to fight back from guns and machine guns. Those same Gyurzy are for sure - there, basically, ideological crews are gaining. There is no order to use a weapon for an adult. Therefore, naval combat on matyukalnikah, maneuvers and as a maximum ram (and not work out for Gyurz, they are nimble).

[LiSiCyn]

Quote: donavi49

the maximum is a battering ram (and it’s impossible to work it out in Gyurz, they are nimble).

I’m also thinking ... With armored boats, what should I do? If they go for a breakthrough under the bridge?

[A good one]

One hundred pounds of communication is suppressed, we will look at the prudence of the crews.

[LiSiCyn]

Judging by the comments, 80% drown ...
If you drown, then at what point? Right at the bridge? They kind of tug fixed and continue to move.

[ilyaspb]

"They seem to have repaired a tug"
Where can I read?

[LiSiCyn]

Rusvesna.
Oh, by the way, there are two more coming up from Berdyansk. Straight, seriously decided to fight?

[ilyaspb]

Thank you.
In any case, the outcome of the battle is unlikely to be decided in comments :)

[ul_vitalii]

Hello, Stas! It seems that the first passage of the boats is an element of a well-thought-out operation of ukrov and their curators, respectively, and all subsequent moves are thought out, and possible answers are prepared. Now the question is whether we can somehow confuse the cards with them.

[LiSiCyn]

Vitaly welcome!
Yes, ours did not bother, they put the bulk carrier across.
I'm wondering, how much fuel does the "gyurza" have? How many are they there, will they hang around?
It would not have to save them later ...

[ul_vitalii]

Stas, here are the initial ones, and what else did they come up with
Navigation range:
216 miles at a speed of 28 knots (400 km), 400 miles at 11 knots (740 km).

[LiSiCyn]

There, by land (almost in a straight line), from Odessa to 640 km Marik.
I think everything, now just stand and indicate your presence

[ul_vitalii]

Yes, now let's see what the overseas organizers of this action will show us. By the way, this year I frolic with spinning in the Volga bays and lakes, I clicked 170 pikes somewhere, though the largest is 2,5 kg, I need to exchange soap in a personal picture and take off the pictures.

[Winnie76]

Quote: LiSiCyn

With armored boats, what to do? If they go for a breakthrough under the bridge?

Ship traffic is blocked. Allegedly put across the dry cargo ship. So only teleportation

[Antares]

Quote: donavi49

The same Gyurza for sure - there they are mainly recruiting ideological crews.

Graduates of the Overland and Nakhimovki
also un-that im Marinesco.
almost all of Odessa. Of course we are all, Odessa citizens, ideological people ..

[Nord2015]

Let us go unpunished for this provocation, and so it will continue. Ukraine will aggravate the situation all the time. We must answer toughly, sanctions still apply, why should we lose that. Poroshenko will have elections soon, it is in his interests to raise a squeal all over the world because of the escalation of tension.

[denart50]

"harbor tug" rammed "PSRK" Don ""...

It is a pity that not the entire "armada" was rammed and allowed to go to the bottom ...
PS The crews could and probably should have been saved ... But the means of violation and provocation are only to the bottom !!!

[Serjio]

The FSB of Russia calls the entry of three ships of the Ukrainian Navy into the territorial waters of the Russian Federation a provocation, the FSB Public Relations Center said.
"For the fifth hour in the Russian territorial waters in the Black Sea, the provocative actions of three ships of the Ukrainian Navy continue. Their goal is clear - to create a conflict situation in this region. The Russian FSB border service is taking all necessary measures to suppress this deliberate provocation of the Ukrainian leadership and ensure the safety of navigation." , - the message says.

[Cannonball]

Chu, Ukrainian waters. Neighing.

[Terenin]

Quote: Russkiy

Well, these are Ukrainian waters temporarily occupied by Russia. So Ukrainians do everything right

I will answer the same way, plainly and also not quite waking up - it is the Russian waters and Ukrainians who are doing everything wrong.

[Tersky]

Quote: Russkiy

Well, these are Ukrainian waters temporarily occupied by Russia. So Ukrainians do everything right

Heavy? With Petunia fermented? Or "on his own"?

[Karabin]

Quote: Russkiy

Well, these are Ukrainian waters temporarily occupied by Russia. So Ukrainians do everything right

There is something in it. Maybe the leading Eref workers think so? Therefore, conjugacy?

[Russian]

Of course they know that. The UN also thinks so. Indeed, the almost absolute majority of countries did not recognize Crimea as Russian

[faridg7]

Quote: Russkiy

Indeed, the almost absolute majority of countries did not recognize Crimea as Russian

Well, these are their problems. Let their non-recognition be stuck somewhere.

[kdakda]

Again swollen Ukrainian savyavki.

[Non liberoid Russian]

wow, how many bloodthirsty Wishlist from the warm kitchen sofas .... but do not you think, warriors comments that understand without your advice?))))))

[Cannonball]

And who gives advice here, they only comment here.

[ohka]

I’ll support what reserve for the General Staff and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs ...

[The leader of the Redskins]

Let the sofa admirals get closer to your fantasies! They are right now all right! Sort the cores in the hands, prepare for boarding and ramming ...

[asar]

Someone has comments from "warm kitchen sofas"!
And someone recently and "from the southern edges" returned!
Not all in one pile, okay ?!

[Terenin]

Quote: Not a liberoid Russian

wow, how many bloodthirsty Wishlist from the warm kitchen sofas .... but do not you think, warriors comments that understand without your advice?))))))

Well, here is the Liber ... houses have already been kicked out into the kitchen and Europe will not let you in the hall either (only the kitchen or the corridor)

[Karabin]

Quote: Not Liberoid Russian

but do not you think, warriors of comments, that without your advice they figure it out?))))))

Be sure to figure it out!

[faridg7]

Quote: Not a liberoid Russian

but do not you think, warriors of comments, that without your advice they figure it out?))))))

This is what annoys. The people choose (and is it really the people?) Leaders for themselves, but leaders somehow do not do what the people demand.

[ODERVIT]

No, I can’t calm down, at 7.00 the incident began. Now what time is it. Again, no one can make a decision and take responsibility. Border is locked tight? So the landing on the main square happened. Our territorial waters, and time 12.00.

[uizik]

Rigidly stop the provocation. Otherwise, there will be further cries of concern and wiping snot. You won’t cook porridge with the top porridge!

[jovanni]

Sink the ships, arrest the crews. The longer the lingering, the worse the consequences. It is clear that the election provocation, but they will be in any way. Timely surgery helps to prevent the spread of infection. Although of course, what is there timely ...

[fruit_cake]

great idea to succumb to provocations, maybe you are also one of the provocateurs? everyone is so friendly here they started screaming to sink

[jovanni]

Quote: fruit_cake

great idea to succumb to provocations, maybe you are also one of the provocateurs? everyone is so friendly here they started screaming to sink

Can then the state border be canceled altogether? Well, so that there is no provocation ...

[fruit_cake]

explain again what is the point of provocations? to remind about the Korean Boeing who violated the Soviet border for a week and was eventually shot down, after that they raised such a howl that they still remember him

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

On October 25, the European Parliament approved a draft resolution providing for tougher sanctions against Russia in case the situation in the Sea of ​​Azov worsens.

that’s the reason for the provocation

[Tersky]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

+1
On October 25, the European Parliament approved a draft resolution providing for tougher sanctions against Russia in case the situation in the Sea of ​​Azov worsens.
that’s the reason for the provocation

Well, they will announce them to themselves. Yesterday I already wrote, I will repeat: the EU's business is collapsing there for quite understandable reasons, which European shipowners face in the conflict zone, who have caused enormous financial losses due to "excessive" inspections by Russian border guards. As a result of this provocation, the inspections of the Russian border service will become much tougher. They are such a rake ...

[Terenin]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

On October 25, the European Parliament approved a draft resolution providing for tougher sanctions against Russia in case the situation in the Sea of ​​Azov worsens.

that’s the reason for the provocation

That's right, for a long time everyone has understood what is the point of talking to "children" on the street when you need to talk to "parents"

[midshipman]

In the 80s, two US ships also entered our waters. I was in Crimea with Marshal E.Ya. Savitsky. There was a command to ram. Fulfilled the order. Immediately cleaned and no longer thought to break. Now it is necessary to put barrage fire in aviation. And the ships of the Russian Navy should either ram or take it in tow. You can’t miss a moment. This is a crime against the country.

[fruit_cake]

load sewage into an aircraft for fire fighting and pour it onto their ships

[Waldemar]

We have no country

[Cannonball]

It is not necessary to heat, but it is imperative to bring it to the state of "don't spoil the mother".

[asar]

To begin with, walk along the side of the violators at full speed! Perhaps it will be overwhelmed by a wave "for the most tomatoes"! Shoot along the course! Take a low level over the offenders!

[nikolas 83]

If we drown, the Americans and Europeans will drag their fleet into the Black Sea and can put up a blockade. We won’t drown ourselves, we’ll put more pressure on us. Either war or shame. Strong people respect.

[Wedmak]

The Black Sea is shot through through ground RCC. The Americans are not so stupid as to supply the RF with free targets.

[asar]

Let NATO drag its fleet, let it! 21 days or war! is nato ready for this?
Tired of already looking at coping!

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: nikolas 83

they will drag their fleet into the Black Sea and can block

blockade of what ?!

[LiSiCyn]

Vladimir

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

blockade of what ?!

For example, Odessa or Constance.
They swim on the pelvis, but they could be on the "Zaporozhets" secretly under water, at night ... That would be a peremoga. It is a pity that he is in Sevastopol, rotting ...

As in the rest of the remaining ukroflot

[kebeskin]

[quote] [/ quote] As Churchill said If a country, choosing between war and shame, chooses shame, it gets both war and shame.

[dvina71]

Quote: kebeskin

As Churchill said If a country, choosing between war and shame, chooses shame, it receives both war and shame.

So Ukrainians have not yet decided .. Judging by the news, he tried to go under his bridge, through his territorial waters .. In the waters they got on board .., now they hang out near the bridge .. And now the most interesting .. they have the courage to go under the bridge without the permission of the Russian authorities? How will they do it? And the reaction to this of our border services? ...

[Prisoner]

And why are they still not at the bottom? There is nothing to stoke, or is the border no longer in the castle, but a passage yard?

[PATHhuK]

Boris Rozhin:
It is reported that when trying to pass through the Kerch Strait from the side of Ukrainian ships (artillery boats "Berdyansk" and "Nikopol, as well as a raid bus" Yany-Kapu "), the Russian border ship" Don "went to the joint with the Ukrainian raid tug (which was in Mariupol) and inflicted serious damage on it (damaged engine, casing and railings - most likely "Don" made a bulk on the hull of the tug - if you believe the hysterics of the Ukrainian Navy).
As stated in the FSB FS today, Ukrainian ships entered Russian territorial waters and ignored the demands of Russian representatives.
By 12 o’clock in the afternoon, Ukrainian ships stand 6 miles south of the Kerch Strait. It is reported that Russian border guards are in control.

[albert]

They write on Yandex that Khokhlam sent reinforcements. Borders in the FSB confirm.

[pros000007]

crossed our border and continue to walk in our waters, and we, what? -And we just bark after, shame is gentlemen, TOTAL SHAME! break through another bottom! I am ashamed of our country!

[fruit_cake]

you work directly on manuals

[gurzuf]

"According to the border guards, the ships maneuver dangerously and do not obey the legal requirements of the Russian side." Why is this statement of fact? And what does it mean - "rammed"? Our border guards have no other weapons to defend our borders?

[Kapkan]

I agree. Americans would have been shot purely for the sake of fan volcanoes.

[Waldemar]

Team on top .....

[asar]

Destroy as violators of the state border of the Russian Federation!

[seacap]

Why are they not detained or arrested? Again we smear the snot on the cheeks, persuade, fu fu fu nasty, so you can’t, please don’t do it so bad? But we will proudly speak, handing out orders, as we heroically rammed a tugboat, instead of ruining our material part and weapons it is better to professionally use as directed. I still understand the amers rammed, and so the enemy’s level and understanding was different, and here it looks extremely miserable and indecisive in a childish way. Despite the expected cries, an obvious provocation for this, it was necessary to use excessive force, and so that another 20 For years, they came to their senses from horror and thought 100 times what they were doing, otherwise. As now it’s just an encouragement and it looks extremely funny, like all our politics, they treat us like a shy chicken, one blah blah blah. So we’ll wait for the continuation of this circus, and whisper something about law and law, and they become impudent and grab our ships and people. It’s a shame we can’t free the sailors for a year already and protect our people, fuck me then such a state which is decisive only in the fight against its population. I was ashamed to already say abroad that you are from Russia, immediately becoming a laughing stock.

[Winnie76]

Quote: seacap

Why are they not detained or arrested?

Because it is a war. Are we ready to turn on the meat grinder?

[asar]

And how long will we cheek?

[Winnie76]

What nafig cheeks. The passage under the bridge is blocked, now you can mock. Aviation to work out bombing, to highlight with radars of guidance, to pour out of fire hoses. And let them only try to shoot

[ilyaspb]

Immediately war? Iran, after all, detained American ships in controversial situations and didn’t it happen? Ukraine is not yet the United States, and Russia, probably, is still not Iran, and it is necessary to demonstrate control over the territory, expel violators to their homeland. What's wrong?

[Winnie76]

Quote: ilyaspb

Immediately war? Iran, after all, detained American ships in controversial situations and didn’t it happen? Ukraine is not yet the United States, but

Have you heard anything about the Tonkin incident? With him, the Vietnam War began and the United States did not seem enough

[ilyaspb]

Did the incident not occur in international waters?
After all, the USSR air defense did the same with the U-2 Powers, as did the scouts who flew regularly along the borders and flew for a short time?
Moving the military deep into the territory of a foreign state is a serious case.
What then should be the criterion for making a decision here?

[faridg7]

Quote: Winnie76

Because it's a war

With whom? Can someone do something there? Since when should a man in boots be afraid of a small mongrel?

[Winnie76]

Quote: faridg7

With whom? Can someone do something there? Since when should a man in boots be afraid of a small mongrel?

In a direct collision, the APU is not a tenant. What about a guerrilla or terrorist war? To derail the structure or to trap a well - a lot of brains are not needed.

[fruit_cake]

you write from the military registration and enlistment office, have you already run to volunteer for war?

[nov_tech.vrn]

Svidomity perceive kindness as a weakness, all the same you won’t stink, you should intern the boats, and send the crews today,

[Yury zaloga]

A violator of the Russian border MUST be detained or destroyed!
Otherwise, everything will work against Russia, against the status of Russia, against the authority of Russia at the international level and (most importantly) within Russia.
If there was a determination to declare that Crimea is ours, then OUR returning territory should be defended without any regard for western and overseas trash!

[Retvizan 8]

Parashenka realized that without exacerbating the situation, elections might not win.

[gurzuf]

Okay. Persuaded. We won’t drown. But ... Mariupol must be taken away!

[iouris]

The fifth hour does not stop the violation of the border. What an excerpt!

[Vadmir]

All this resembles the case when an American ship entered the territorial waters of the USSR, under Gorbachev. Then there was also a ram, they checked the determination of the then leadership. They realized that there was no determination to open fire and killed Gorbachev. As a result, there is no longer the USSR.
It is impossible in such cases to show softness, it will be taken for weakness and indecision. And sanctions for the rammed tug will be imposed.

[Serjio]

Passage through the Kerch Strait is prohibited for civilian vessels on Sunday, because after the arrival of three Ukrainian warships that entered the territorial waters of Russia, there were fears of provocations. This was reported by TASS a source in the transport sector of the Southern Federal District.
"The channel is closed - the Kerch-Yenikalsky canal <...> They do not close it with any [military ships]. But then there is obvious disobedience to requirements, and there are fears of provocations," the source said.

[Zomanus]

This is done for a reason.
Reasons to throw at us another handful of sanctions.
Reason to beg for something, preferably shooting.

[panzerfaust]

What would Israel do? That's it...that's right!

[ilyaspb]

What kind of lobby does Israel have in the authorities of world powers? And what does the Russian Federation have? That's it.

[gurzuf]

When protecting the borders of your state, you must place the device in the entire lobby. Because the state can be destroyed!

[ilyaspb]

Or you can, like Nicholas II, fight with everyone without having clear allies, and get the same result. Probably, the solution needs to be approached in a more complex way

[gurzuf]

“In the whole world we have only 2 faithful allies - our army and navy. All the rest, at the first opportunity, will take up arms against us.” Alexander III.

[ilyaspb]

So, what is next? Was Alexander III stupid enough to get involved in wars without at least temporary traveling companions? Not at all - he preferred not to get involved in them at all (he didn’t join any).

[gurzuf]

Did we really cross someone’s border in armored boats? No. But you need to protect your own without regard to third parties.

[ilyaspb]

Well, if you listen to the sense of justice - yes. But in the harsh reality, Russia is too dependent on the position of foreign states and is forced to look for the path of least damage to itself.

[Leshy1975]

Quote: Bearded

Quote: Herald of Revy

Quote: Svarog

flood definitely ..

Well, grab sanctions in response to the most do not spoil, like Iran and once Cuba, that is, a complete embargo on everything. How do you like this prospect?

Stop scaring us.
Hitler was already scared.

I don’t know who you think is the modern Hitler, but Putin is definitely not the modern Stalin. Stalin and his comrades did not keep money and children on enemy territory. Therefore, if you really fantasize about such an event, it will look like this. First, the flight of the main part of the elite, naturally with the transfer of all secrets to the enemy. If, of course, there are still some left, otherwise the speed with which information about Petrov and Boshirov was leaked leads to sad thoughts. As a result, the complete paralysis of all power and government and, as a result, the state of the Russian Federation will be completely destroyed. Next, the promotion of real patriotic leaders will begin and the purge of those alien elements that will not have time to escape, but this is so, every little thing will be punished, which, however, is also necessary. And only after this there will be a chance, far from 100%, a very difficult and bloody one to defend your interests. So an analogy with the Great Patriotic War is hardly possible, but with the Time of Troubles (from 1598 to 1613), yes, it is very similar.

[Alexander Bushkovsky]

Alexander Bushkovsky
And the guarantor, as usual, will lose his nerve and call for international law. This is a test of the resolve of the Russian authorities to resist provocations and take very tough measures in response. The next stage on the part of fascist Ukraine is the attack on the Crimean bridge. But even here, I think the guarantor will once again lose his nerve and convene the UN Security Council, where once again there will be a collective spit in the face of Russia. No one will talk to cowards!

[Terenin]

Quote: Alexander Bushkovsky

Alexander Bushkovsky
And the guarantor, as usual, will lose his nerve and call for international law. This is a test of the resolve of the Russian authorities to resist provocations and take very tough measures in response. The next stage on the part of fascist Ukraine is the attack on the Crimean bridge. But even here, I think the guarantor will once again lose his nerve and convene the UN Security Council, where once again there will be a collective spit in the face of Russia. No one will talk to cowards!

And it is necessary to call for international law and to convene the UN Security Council and the determination of the authorities to resist provocations - without a doubt, i.e. each department to carry out its responsibilities. You said everything correctly. And the Anglo-Saxons have been spitting towards Russia for a long time. Oh, how I didn’t spit when they received tinsel from Russia so many times.

[seacap]

Quote: nov_tech.vrn

Svidomity perceive kindness as a weakness, all the same you won’t stink, you should intern the boats, and send the crews today,

This is true all over the world, only many, even having insignificant “weight,” categorically nip it in the bud (for example, Israel), and some, covering up their indecision, fear and dependence with talk about humanity, humiliate themselves and surrender the interests of their country, for the sake of the preferences of the uncles from the ocean, so that they would let me into the hallway and graciously let me touch the shoe, patting my bald spot.

[ANCIENT]

the situation NEEDS to be called by its name - the toothlessness of our authorities, and their complete indecision to protect OUR water space has now finished off the remnants of the Supreme rating, and now the concept of respect in the eyes of countries still neutral to us will be replaced by at least contempt. That is, the Kremlin with its toothless policy towards Ukraine has lost the remnants of trust and respect for Russia as a state. Where it is necessary to act harshly, even cruelly, we see co-operation and flirting with the enemies of Russia.

[Terenin]

Quote: ANCIENT

the situation NEEDS to be called by its name - the toothlessness of our authorities, and their complete indecision to protect OUR water space has now finished off the remnants of the Supreme rating, and now the concept of respect in the eyes of countries still neutral to us will be replaced by at least contempt. That is, the Kremlin with its toothless policy towards Ukraine has lost the remnants of trust and respect for Russia as a state. Where it is necessary to act harshly, even cruelly, we see co-operation and flirting with the enemies of Russia.

I completely agree with you, but it’s still too early to “attack”, the “flanks” are open. We need as much time as possible.

[Vadmir]

We need as much time as possible.

Well, just a quote from Stalin’s words before June 22, 1941, and then the catastrophic defeat of the Red Army, and in the end they won, but at what cost!

[Terenin]

Quote: Vadmir

We need as much time as possible.

Well, just a quote from Stalin’s words before June 22, 1941, and then the catastrophic defeat of the Red Army, and in the end they won, but at what cost!

Thank you, Vadim, for the comparison with I.V. Stalin’s quote, I didn’t know But, I wonder what you would have done in the place of the Supreme Commander before June 22, 1941? Then, a disaster is still an incident that arose as a result of a natural or man-made emergency... The Anglo-Saxons and the company are now practically finishing the “proof” that the Red Army lost all the major battles of the Second World War (the Battle of Kursk, etc.) Nothing new.

[Rustic i ......]

Detain, confiscate all ammunition, small arms and...... release the toothless ones. Those who are dissatisfied should be detained longer and kept in extreme conditions to make it more understandable. And if there was no prior application for passage through the strait, then they should not be allowed to go where they were going, but sent back to Odessa. Their entertainment will be towing the tug itself.

[Rustic i ......]

Artillery installations, which are difficult to remove, are disabled, so that they would be impossible to restore under field conditions.

[Antares]

Quote: Rustic i ......

Artillery installations, which are difficult to remove, are disabled, so that they would be impossible to restore under field conditions.

It’s easier to drown = since the military won’t allow this.
There are few precedents for disarming warships in controversial situations. Yes, and it’s difficult. A warship is a weapon in itself.

[O22]

What's the problem with letting our boats through to Azov? Well, without snot, in fact, briefly and clearly.

They are all so formidable! Wow!

Hypothetical situation (absolutely)! Japan seized the disputed islands (a la Crimea), held a referendum, and declared them theirs. The Russian Federation is trying to pass military ships nearby, the Japanese are forbidding them. What's banging on the keys here?! Just a hypothetical situevina. Answer yourself soberly!

[ANCIENT]

022-your unfinished ukroina is OUR RUSSIAN LANDS, therefore, if you want to have your own country, create it somewhere in the USA or in England, but return ALL our lands to us.

[O22]

Just no comments. (((

There seem to be adequate people here?! Or maybe write down your opinion?

[ANCIENT]

022-if we were like you, inadequate, then from your Ukrainian culture there would only be a couple of phrases left in the history of mankind, they say, they lived entirely as parasites and inadequate people on foreign land and on other people’s money, and called themselves Ukrainians, having sold and betrayed their RUSSIAN essence.

[Antares]

Quote: ANCIENT

- then from your Ukrainian culture there would only be a couple of phrases left in the history of mankind, they say, they lived entirely as parasites and inadequate people on foreign land and on other people’s money, and called themselves Ukrainians, having sold and betrayed their RUSSIAN essence.

Yes, we love you too, but in our own way. Not so bloodthirsty.
We personally betrayed you because we refuse to be

Quote: ANCIENT

completely parasites and inadequate people on someone else’s land and with someone else’s money

it turns out.. Well, excuse me. Let’s try to improve, because you don’t like us so much and accuse us of some kind of betrayal.
Russians have also been accused of betraying Russians for some time. Although more precisely the Russians in the betrayal of the Russians. In general, it’s difficult to understand the emotions of who betrayed whom.
But threats, insults, a threat to territorial integrity... are obvious.

[Dmitriy66]

022!!!Dig a passage from the black to the Azovskoye, go sit here by accident,

[nov_tech.vrn]

passage is not prohibited, it is regulated according to international laws, and the shit is deserved according to the tinsels, two boats just passed without problems, so you need a scandal, if you ask, it’s like with Yanyk, no, they would calmly be re-elected in six months, so, crazy old woman She fed her cookies, the center of Kiev was trashed, and another hundred people were killed, although of course the crests, who are in power, are not relatives of the Zionists...

[O22]

First of all, do you yourself believe everything that the government agencies of the Russian Federation are broadcasting?! In Ukraine the information is 100% opposite. But even if they didn’t, what was the reason? They would have escorted us with an honorary escort to the puddle of Azov, they would have told us what we are like, but NO!!! Nuno show off his bigger dick! The brainlessness of power is our common feature, by the way. And the biomass eating without a filter is what they are told and written! I asked you to answer essentially, while only you had ONE sentence. But for another week in Russia you will not be discussing the fall in oil prices, with all that it entails, but something else! And we will also have a forge! But people love it! Also???!!!

According to MAIDAN, I can only answer in communication, otherwise there will be a lot of letters and misunderstandings. Interesting my imha knock [email protected]. Once we get in touch, we’ll decide!

[Anthony 1978]

I think I understand that crests were simply treated like children. Big Daddy just spanked the most zealous one and put everyone in a corner..))
It’s really awkward to shoot at them, as if at distant relatives...

[O22]

This is for hype - “hokhl-katsa p tire”, can we get away from this? Or are there no brains and culture won’t allow it?

Who did you spank? And who did he put in place?

[Dmitriy66]

Your trough was slapped lightly

[Waldemar]

Japan has existed for hundreds of years. Ukraine was molded from MY land during my lifetime. This is such a "situevina"

[O22]

Thanks for the substantive answer! (((

[Antares]

Quote: Valdemar

Ukraine was molded from MY land during my lifetime. This is such a "situevina"

It seems like all Russians write that we are a product of AB...Did you find the Austro-Hungarian Empire?

[Rustic i ......]

In the words of the song "Everyone throw away the cartridges, the border is coming soon........", and nothing special. Yes, it wouldn’t be a bad idea to warn in advance about your desire to pass under the Kerch bridge, especially since in the Ukrainian press there were statements about the bridge being blown up, so who to believe?

[Lysik001]

...there is no limit to our indignation....that's actually all!...

[SASHA OLD]

it is necessary to drown clearly, provocation is provocation, what if they are mined and want to break through to the bridge so that, having evacuated, they can point their tanks at the supports in order to damage them...
This is the sauce they need to be drowned in - illegal crossing of the state. borders and direct threat to a strategic object on the territory of the Russian Federation

[DPN]

The question is where are the vaunted Calibers or something like that, it looks like we’re starting to wipe our snot again. This is Russia’s gratitude for allowing Ukraine to rebuild its army after 2014. Let us thank Gorbachev and Yeltsin again, they made one a millionaire to the other spruce center Glory to the traitors who are pushing us towards war. They didn’t want to punish Bandera’s followers in 2014, now it will be more difficult, this is not Georgia, but MUST.

[seacap]

In general, can anyone tell our border guards how a warship is used for its intended purpose (it seems like they graduate from the same naval schools)? Some kind of nonsense and wretchedness, or maybe he accidentally, due to low professional training and poor knowledge and skills of navigation rules, collided with a tugboat (the hull of which is like that of an armadillo and is designed to withstand such loads)? So, in theory, we are supposed to ram tanks on Iskanders, and crush infantry when rolling a missile? Draw some more daisy flowers on board, it’s a disgrace, the commanders of these ships should be dismissed in disgrace and put on trial by a military tribunal, as having given up their positions and not fulfilling their security duty frontiers.

[Vadmir]

Draw more daisy flowers on board, it’s a disgrace, the commanders of these ships should be dismissed in disgrace and put on trial by a military tribunal, as having given up their positions and not fulfilling their duty to protect the borders.

The commanders of these ships carry out orders, but those who gave these orders must be punished.

[gurzuf]

Agree! and ... I won’t be surprised if in a week’s time a tank column of the Armed Forces, somewhere near Moscow, a traffic police unit will try to stop using the now popular portable radars of the shooter type

[dima-fesko]

The raid tug was “rammed” by the Don anti-ship missile system, and as a result the main engine of the tug, its casing and railing were damaged.
I wonder if there will be a rescue operation? I'm getting goosebumps from curiosity!

[Waldemar]

You need to take a closer look at what they are masking with the noise of the screws

[bubalik]

You need to take a closer look at what they are masking with the noise of the screws

,,,the territory is being marked

[Vodrak]

In general, these Russians are crazy!
The life raft is lost! This is an entire combat unit of the Ukrainian Navy!

[Terenin]

Poroshenko and company sit at these hours and pray that Russia will sink their ships along with their crews. Then we would not forget this bestiality.

[Ishenko Gennady Vladimirovich]

Sink the hell out of it, preferably without casualties, and fish the brave Ukrainian sailors out of the water. Then we'll exchange them for someone else. And on the EU... pee-pee-pee. If they want to impose sanctions, they will find a reason.

[SS-18 Satan]

to board... definitely.

[faiver]

and so, almost seven hours have passed since the beginning and..?...

[Leshy1975]

Quote: Yury Zaloga

A violator of the Russian border MUST be detained or destroyed!
Otherwise, everything will work against Russia, against the status of Russia, against the authority of Russia at the international level and (most importantly) within Russia.
If there was a determination to declare that Crimea is ours, then OUR returning territory should be defended without any regard for western and overseas trash!

You, my friend, are a great comedian. Especially in terms of “Russia’s authority at the international level.” It’s too late to drink Borjomi when you know what has already happened. Or is it not clear that the Ukrainian authorities win in both cases? 1) if we miss, we demonstrate, once again, the power of our most formidable weapon, i.e. We will then express our protest and concern (also once again). In Ukraine this will be declared a victory.
2) if there is a military clash, as the comrades write correctly, the entire West, which is “our partners” and which does not recognize Crimea as ours, but considers it Ukrainian, will receive the most excellent reason to unleash an additional pack of sanctions dogs on us. And the whole horror is that it’s okay for us, the simple ones, but even the “elite” is starting to pinch. And in Ukraine, of course, in this case there is unity around “the best (in Putin’s opinion) choice.” Which is not surprising, if our warship was sunk as a result of a battle, how would we feel? In Ukraine, Western support and new sanctions will be declared a victory.

There is simply no good solution in such a situation. Good decision Putin pr....l in 2014. If the project of unfriendly Ukraine had been closed, the West would have boomed, they would have imposed sanctions in the same way as now, but they themselves would not have dared to commit such provocations. And by this time they would probably have made peace, since there would not have been a constant source of irritation (the current Ukrainian government). So now they are sitting in the Kremlin, thinking about how to choose the lesser of two evils, so that the fortunes in the West do not suffer and do not look like complete m. Of course it’s hard, I feel sorry for Uncle Vova.
And no matter what happens again, the solution is this: Uncle Vova and his friends have no place in the Kremlin, the replacement of the entire “elite”, let them go abroad to their Londons, to their children and property, has already been ordered. But of course this is not quick, not easy, very expensive, very dangerous (for the state and citizens), but then there is no other way. And the later this happens, the more advanced the process is, the more difficult, costly, and dangerous the process of Russia’s revival will be.
And today (25.11.2018/XNUMX/XNUMX) we are watching how Uncle Vova will invent another HPP and put the presumptuous “best choice” in his place. Soloviev and Kiselyov must announce our victory to the people on TV tomorrow in the version of our “iron endurance”.

P.S. Unfortunately, for Russia to be reborn, we who live here still have to drink the cup of poverty and shame.

[alexmach]

It’s too late to drink Borjomi when you know what has already happened. Or is it not clear that the Ukrainian authorities win in both cases?

There is simply no good solution in such a situation.

Yes, here’s your solution, don’t let it pass through the strait... that’s all. Do not drown unless absolutely necessary, and do not let anyone into Mariupol... And it is also advisable not to let anyone out of Mariupol. That's all. We have the right because of their strange behavior. What will these tubs, with their autonomy and seaworthiness at sea, do? Will they go back to Odessa? All.

[Leshy1975]

Quote: alexmach

It’s too late to drink Borjomi when you know what has already happened. Or is it not clear that the Ukrainian authorities win in both cases?

There is simply no good solution in such a situation.

Yes, here’s your solution, don’t let it pass through the strait... that’s all. Do not drown unless absolutely necessary, and do not let anyone into Mariupol... And it is also advisable not to let anyone out of Mariupol. That's all. We have the right because of their strange behavior. What will these tubs, with their autonomy and seaworthiness at sea, do? Will they go back to Odessa? All.

Who else will we not allow through the strait? British Navy, does Uncle Vova have the courage not to let you in? Or if they call from London that they are taking away from all the oligarchs (as well as journalists and propagandists) who have property and accounts there, everything “acquired by back-breaking labor.” So not only will we let us through, but Uncle Vova will also act as a pilot to guide us through. Why the British?
source (RACOONS Novorossiya):
"Odessa has become a permanent base of the British fleet
Under the pretext of providing military assistance to the current Kiev regime, London received a Ukrainian naval base on the Black Sea. According to the influential publication The Daily Telegraph, citing Secretary of Defense Gavin Williamson, the first English warship is already sailing to Odessa.
Moreover, this is not about a regular visit to a foreign port. The multipurpose hydrographic survey vessel of the British Navy Echo with a crew of 72 sailors gets a permanent mooring place in the Western Naval Base of the Ukrainian Navy, which is also the Practical Harbor of Odessa Port.
It became known that following the Echo scout, a group of Duke-class frigates would arrive here for basing. A complex of anti-ship missiles, powerful artillery, 324-mm torpedoes and an anti-aircraft missile system - these are the frigates produced in 1993-2000. The United Kingdom is sending to the shores of the Baltic states “to ensure the security of its NATO partners.”

I haven’t believed in the wisdom, determination, or HP of Uncle Vova for a long time. Therefore, both the Ukrainians and the British will go where they need to and when they need to. And yes, we ourselves, by voting for Mr. Putin, drove ourselves into a place whose name the moderators will always erase. And yes, while he is in power, we will delve into this place even deeper. Today's event is precisely an excellent illustration of this process, i.e. climbing further in . If such words seem offensive to anyone, I can say as a consolation that we are all participating in this fascinating process together, the whole country, regardless of who is its supporter and who is its opponent.

[Vadmir]

What kind of method is ramming, do you mind your own ships? Ruining the PSKR on a rusty tug, why do they need weapons? Warning, if it doesn’t come through - fire to kill! This is the only way, there is no other way - they will become insolent and decide to repeat it.

[faiver]

Have you seen our PSKR "Don"? the same tugboat but bigger and more modern and armed... just right for ramming...

[Vadmir]

but bigger and more modern and armed

That's right, armed!
And after the ramming it may well need to be repaired, do we have extra ships?
And the rest, in general, are combat boats with weapons and armor. According to Nevsky it is necessary: ​​“Whoever came to us with a sword will die by the sword.”

[alexmach]

What kind of method is ramming, do you mind your own ships? Ruining the PSKR on a rusty tug, why do they need weapons? Warning, if it doesn’t come through - fire to kill! This is the only way, there is no other way - they will become insolent and decide to repeat it.

Here's the difficulty. After all, they also have weapons on their boats; after a warning, they may well respond. You can only shoot when you are ready to drown immediately. And you can still play with these.

[iouris]

Does the FSB have ram-type ships in service?

[Rostislav]

Why the violators were not detained is a rhetorical question. There was an order. Then what about the rule “If a fight is unavoidable, strike first”?

[ANCIENT]

Rostislav -it was an unsuccessful banter on Russia from the Supreme

[Leshy1975]

Quote: SS-18 Satan

to board... definitely.

Well, that's it, whistle everyone to the top! I went for the pirate flag! Better yet, have some popcorn, or else there will be more!

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Can anyone explain what's going on?!!!
zero information, according to the first reports, the Ukrainians were supposed to cross the bridge an hour and a half ago

[Vadmir]

zero information, according to the first reports, the Ukrainians were supposed to cross the bridge an hour and a half ago

If they end up crossing the bridge, it will be the most shameful incident in history.

[kitpit]

If Svidomo pulls off this trick, the next one will be cooler. Impunity provokes inappropriate people.

[Strashila]

Issue an invoice to Ukraine for painting the Don anti-ship missile system.

[faiver]

confiscate all three vessels and put them up for auction....

[Vadmir]

What's the point, they won't pay anyway.

[faiver]

send to the Caspian...

[vik669]

You, Zin, are on the verge of being rude, Zin, you are trying to offend!

[Egor-dis]

On the good side, it would be worth detaining, and if resistance is shown, sinking. And at the same time impose some sanctions on Ukraine. Otherwise, the provocations will continue.

[kventinasd]

According to the Russia 24 news, they now said that two artillery vessels of the Ukrainian Navy set out from Berdyansk at 11:30 towards the Kerch Strait and are moving at full speed. The mess is just beginning.

[senima56]

It is necessary to “knock” in such a way...to completely discourage such provocations! And “world public opinion” will make noise, make noise and shut up!

[Hypersound]

The soft-hearted Russian authorities will still never have the courage to respond with an attack; instead, a combat boat rammed the tugboat, and as a result, the boat was close to sinking. What a crazy decision...

Türkiye knocked down our Sushka - they wiped it off. Israel shot down (albeit indirectly) our IL - they wiped it off. Now we can no longer respond normally to Ukraine. We are waiting for Honduras to start destroying our country.

[gm9019]

Provocation. Flight overflight of a Su-24, warning shots from naval artillery slightly undershot. They will turn around on their own.

[Guards turn]

The FSB reported that reinforcements had moved towards the Ukrainian ships.

It became known that reinforcements were coming to the Ukrainian ships that violated the border. The FSB press service reports this. In particular, it is reported that Ukrainian Navy vessels are moving towards the Kerch Strait at top speed.

The Border Service of the FSB of Russia recorded the movement of two armored artillery vessels of the Gyurza class from the port of Berdyansk. At the moment, they are moving at maximum speed in the direction of the Kerch Strait to the area of ​​provocation, the RT report quotes.

[Cannonball]

Block everyone until the fuel is completely exhausted, then arrest. If you try to resist, destroy it.

[ilimnoz]

casus belli?

[Anthony 1978]

This is the strength of warships! A civilian ship is almost knocked out by a NATO destroyer, and then, as befits warships, it is rammed like a watermelon with an axe.. And it’s a boat!

[kefan]

They report that reinforcements are also rushing to them in the form of 2 Gyurza boats, apparently the main pig really needs a conflict in the Sea of ​​Azov right now.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

something strange
what's happening?!!
not a word in the news, the Ukrainians should have been in the strait a long time ago

[alexmach]

Well, don’t you think they’ll just let them through like that? They are probably hanging out somewhere on the approach to the strait.

[demo]

As required.
Those. wait.
No matter what, Russia is taken seriously and provoked to an unambiguously tough reaction.
But it won’t take long to determine who gave such a command and who the beneficiary is.
The answer will be further sanctions.

[Dr. Bermental]

sink one...

[andrson]

Next time, these boats will sink Russian cargo ships.

[alexmach]

Next time, these boats will sink Russian cargo ships.

Well, this is provided that these boats even survive until the next time. The point is that “this time” is not over yet.

[kassandra1991]

When my father was on duty the night a South Korean Boeing flew over Sakhalin, Moscow and local generals also rushed about and asked for “political will.” And then they asked him: what should be done according to the instructions? He answered - shoot down. The generals were a little afraid and said: follow the instructions.....and the father gave the command to the pilot to shoot down. Even that leadership had the will to allow us to act according to instructions. I could sleep peacefully then, but now I can’t, I’m afraid that the current political will might be bargained with, sold, or betrayed. And you won’t have time to groan.....

[O22]

Wow, cool! And what is the result?! Marina, are you really proud of this?! When will you move up a level? I would be ashamed to write THIS! Better pray!

[kassandra1991]

I'm proud of my father's decision. I did the right thing. And you pray...

[iouris]

The FSB believes that the goal is to aggravate the situation in the area. They do not see the purpose of exacerbating the situation in this area. I think because some lieutenant commander should resolve the situation. I can imagine what kind of radio exchange is going on now.

[edmed]

Quote: kassandra1991

I could sleep peacefully then, but now I can’t, I’m afraid that the current political will might be bargained with, sold, or betrayed. And you won’t have time to groan.....

Then yes, but now no, and before you know it, they’ll sell it.

[Leshy1975]

Quote: edmed

Quote: kassandra1991

I could sleep peacefully then, but now I can’t, I’m afraid that the current political will might be bargained with, sold, or betrayed. And you won’t have time to groan.....

Then yes, but now no, and before you know it, they’ll sell it.

I agree, with a small amendment, which does not change the essence: they have already sold, bought and sold again, without any sort of thing.

[standing]

Provocations must be strictly suppressed, and not bury your head in the sand, it will only get worse. Raise the flag of Novorossiya on the patrol ship and drown them on.....

[Catfish]

Quote: olegfbi

"Ay, pug! Know she is strong,
What barks at the Elephant! "

This pug has the mustaches of the imperialist jungle behind him, and we, as always, have “neither a candle to God nor a devil’s poker.” Well, we don’t have Vereshchagin in our leadership team, who is offended by the “Power.” Again just talk. At one time, the Soviet TFR in the same theater chased an American frigate (or cruiser), which was sailing along the edge of our territorial waters, and now... they lightly scratched the Khokhlatsky tugboat. Hmmm, some kind of wild decline in the country's prestige. And what kind of thing is this when they can’t crush two floating bugs? Otherwise, it turns out like they joked in Soviet times about deciphering the letters on the naval shoulder straps of the Black Sea Fleet - “Chi fleet, chi not navy.” And it’s not our sailors’ fault.

[Mentat]

Quote: Random

"shaved off"
ENOUGH....WHAT.. Disgrace yourself in front of the WHOLE WORLD? And suffer such... reputational losses that...

Why are you so shrill?
People like you like to refer to Stalin, although I’m far from sure that you are even from Russia. But do you understand that under Stalin’s rule you would have started logging with such words and shouts?

Times are different now; they won’t send you to cut down the forest. But other people see in which direction you emit the wind, let’s call it that. Obviously you are not helping Russia.

[Lena363]

We must not forget that Russian ships also sail through international straits. And the International Maritime Tribunal, when considering Russia’s violations against Ukraine, may also limit Russia’s rights with all the consequences. And Ukraine has the right of free access to the Sea of ​​Azov, since it is common to the two states.

[Rzzz]

The sea is common, but the strait is not common. But from this moment all the fun begins.

[Dmitriy66]

Damn, I’m worried about Father-in-law, he’s in Sevastopol right now, no matter what he does to the dill, he can chop it into powder))))

[petrol cutter]

Who thought of ramming there?! Why are our brothers installing machine guns for you?! So that you spoil the people's property and break the ships with all sorts of heroic rams. That's a lot of repairs to do!

[Rzzz]

There aren't that many renovations there. A few days at the factory. But the use of weapons, at least in the air, immediately takes the conflict to another level.