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In the State Duma proposed to replace the exam with blockchain technology

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In Russia, the USE must be replaced by a system of early identification of talents among students, based on blockchain technology, leads RIA News opinion of the head of the Duma education committee Boris Chernyshov (LDPR).



The deputy outlined this idea in a letter to the Minister of Education of the Russian Federation Olga Vasilyeva.

Chernyshov noted that the existing system of educational standards does not suit many parents and teachers. They point out that standards are oriented more towards theory than practice, therefore, it is almost impossible to understand how capable a student is.

In this regard, he proposed a different methodology for assessing knowledge, which will be an alternative to the unified state examination.

According to the deputy, a written test, called the exam, was coined in the United States to test the level of knowledge of children with "developmental disabilities." And not everyone likes it.

The new system, he writes, should be based on three components: the student's grades, the results of vocational guidance and his social activity. In this case, the abilities and talents of children must be identified at an early stage.

To analyze the available information, on the basis of which the issue of further education of a graduate in high school will be decided, Chernyshov suggested using blockchain technology, which with “mathematical precision” allows to evaluate the individuality of each person whose data were entered into the e-school program.

A blockchain is a continuous, built according to certain rules, a chain (linked list) of blocks containing the necessary information.
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  1. Lieutenant Teterin
    Lieutenant Teterin 21 November 2018 11: 39
    +42
    They would better replace themselves with such technology ... More benefit would be. It is clear that the exam as a type of knowledge control has discredited itself, but the proposed solution is also not an option. World experience shows that so far nothing has been invented better than the traditional exam system.
    1. Underwater hunter
      Underwater hunter 21 November 2018 11: 46
      +17
      According to the deputy, a written test, called the exam, was coined in the United States to test the level of knowledge of children with "developmental disabilities." And not everyone likes it.
      Here is the attitude of the government towards us and our children, they believe that the population of the country, apart from officials, has a developmental disability .. In general, in order to comment, it is necessary to reveal in more detail what kind of animal this "blockchain" is, the name already repels.
      1. Ushly_bashkort
        Ushly_bashkort 21 November 2018 12: 15
        +11
        As I understand it, it is proposed to identify certain areas of students and do individual programs for them. Well, how is it done behind a puddle. The next nonsense.
        1. Gray brother
          Gray brother 21 November 2018 13: 28
          +2
          Quote: Ushly_bashkort
          As I understand it, it is proposed to identify certain areas of students and do individual programs for them. Well, how is it done behind a puddle. Rave

          No, well, a certain reasonable grain is here. It may be that a person has a certain ability ability, but with others he has a shit.
          You can determine his ailment in a feat.
          1. Albert1988
            Albert1988 21 November 2018 20: 23
            +1
            Quote: Gray Brother
            No, well, a certain reasonable grain is here. It may be that a person has a certain ability ability, but with others he has a shit.
            You can determine his ailment in a feat.

            The main thing is that all this WORKS, because the main problem of today's Russia is that so many mechanisms either simply do not work, or they do not work as necessary ...
        2. Zubr
          Zubr 21 November 2018 13: 28
          +13
          hi
          Well, the concept of specialized education was still being worked out in the Soviet Union. And such a day as the CPC, already guided us and helped after graduation to get the first profession, and I will tell you, personally it helped me a lot in my student days. What is blockchain I do not know. But I definitely know our rich experience of our Russian school. What such a devil, again they want to impose bourgeois game on us again ?! How much can our children be fooled?
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        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 21 November 2018 12: 40
          +6
          Quote: kasatky
          immediately to the wipers.

          in the trash drown
          1. DEDPIHTO
            DEDPIHTO 21 November 2018 14: 13
            +5
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            Quote: kasatky
            immediately to the wipers.

            in the trash drown

            This State Duma is like an oak in a verse -
            - "Lukomorye has a green oak,
            golden chain on that oak ... "
            Two necklaces, six bracelets
            a cat hanged on an oak.
            Three refrigerators, feather bed,
            hanging washing machine.
            Four spoons, six shovels
            and the rake hangs there too.
            Four light bulbs, iron,
            two horses and an equestrian plow,
            three toilets, armchair, bathtub,
            shirt drunk Ivan.
            Rocket, basin, box of vodka,
            two Mercedes, three herrings,
            potatoes, onions, peas, beans,
            three stools, mezzanine.
            Two kilograms of dynamite
            four for pig troughs,
            three tons of apples, pears and plums,
            one large housing estate.
            Two boots, a sock, a boot,
            from the Tretyakov Gallery there is a picture.
            Handkerchief, key for thirty two,
            button accordion, accordion and firewood.
            Cognac, wine, garlic and lard,
            sauerkraut is not enough.
            Bag of unripe lentils
            syringe, two tweezers from the hospital.
            Computer, phone, tablet,
            grenade, ski, gun,
            half a ton of fried nails,
            but no acorns on oak ...
          2. kasatky
            kasatky 21 November 2018 20: 18
            0
            But censorship works! I just spoke about sending officials for re-certification with retraining, how the post disappeared without a trace! If only they would say for sho ?? !! :(
            1. not main
              not main 21 November 2018 21: 50
              +2
              Quote: kasatky
              But censorship works! I just spoke about sending officials for re-certification with retraining, how the post disappeared without a trace! If only they would say for sho ?? !! :(

              Have you made a warning? If not, then good! In general, the comments have been deleted recently at the "request of workers", have you seen the "complain" button? So lately, some characters use it very often!
              1. kasatky
                kasatky 21 November 2018 21: 55
                0
                No, they didn’t make a warning and this is bad. If there is a warning, then there is a designated fault. And to delete like that ..., on a petty one, is not beautiful.
                1. not main
                  not main 21 November 2018 22: 08
                  +1
                  Quote: kasatky
                  No, they didn’t make a warning and this is bad. If there is a warning, then there is a designated fault. And to delete like that ..., on a petty one, is not beautiful.

                  To be honest, I don’t know how it is now, but a little over a year ago, the comment and warning were deleted. And "in a personal" message came from the administrator for what? I tried to argue, but only Apollo answered (the kingdom of heaven), And now, two choices, either ban or simply ignore popular discussions! Now I have broken my own rule!
      3. Zhora Perm
        Zhora Perm 21 November 2018 12: 19
        +11
        It’s funny, the American elites study textbooks from the time of Stalin, but we are writing an exam in Russian in the form of a test ...
      4. denart50
        denart50 21 November 2018 20: 39
        +3
        Quote: Underwater Hunter
        In general, in order to comment, you need to reveal in more detail what kind of animal this "blockchain" is, the name already repels.


        Duc ... deputies already forgot how to think and speak Russian in Russian ... The Russian language has already become, as in Ukraine - a Western incomprehensible mov ...
        Honestly, this deputy thought WHAT he said? And HOW does he imagine the realization of what he said?
        There was an old Soviet system of teaching and teaching ... Various thematic Olympiads were held to identify the gifted (which is still being done at the world level) ...
        No, drin, we want blockchain technology, that is, each student describes each step, when he did something and how, but individuals like this deputy will draw conclusions about the student’s mental abilities from diary entries ...
        Bullshit ... Bullshit ... And again, bullshit ... fool
    2. Sotskiy
      Sotskiy 21 November 2018 11: 49
      +9
      Quote: Lieutenant Teterin
      It is clear that the exam as a type of knowledge control discredited itself

      Why so?
      The Unified State Exam fulfills its function completely. It is clearly written: "The USE was invented in the United States to test the level of knowledge of children with" developmental disabilities. "
      So, by a strong-willed decision, they "introduced", then they got it, namely children with developmental disabilities.
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 21 November 2018 11: 56
        +13
        Sotskiy (Michael)
        So, by a strong-willed decision, they "introduced", then they got it, namely children with developmental disabilities.
        But now !!!!!
        The new system, he writes, should be based on three components: the student's grades, the results of vocational guidance and his social activity. In this case, the abilities and talents of children must be identified at an early stage.
        laughing So I see hereditary judges, policemen and the military too. Directly the computer will be independent of anyone to issue a ticket to life laughing wassat Prikalisty. Yes, the first are excited against mummies, papules. And they gallop up connections. But at the head police, for example, a son has a tendency to agriculture, he will unexpectedly find a comp. laughing
        1. Sotskiy
          Sotskiy 21 November 2018 12: 06
          +7
          Quote: Observer2014
          But now !!!!!
          The new system, he writes, should be based on three components: the student's grades, the results of vocational guidance and his social activity. In this case, the abilities and talents of children must be identified at an early stage.

          No, they just use additional tests to shut up the students and teachers, and the next "DISTRICT" will report to the top about the "successes" done. But we will never return to the Soviet type of education! This is not our method! laughing
          1. Observer2014
            Observer2014 21 November 2018 12: 13
            +6
            Sotskiy (Michael)
            No, they just use additional tests to shut up the students and teachers, and the next "DISTRICT" will report to the top about the "successes" done.
            Well, they do it already. I'm talking about successes. That's the idea of ​​the teenager’s fate so that the computer determines it. You know how boldly it is. it’s like that, and you don’t need to send an impartial computer. The family’s capabilities will direct it.
            1. Sotskiy
              Sotskiy 21 November 2018 12: 20
              +5
              Quote: Observer2014
              And your favorite child will go the same way and you don’t need to send an impartial computer where his family will direct his opportunities.

              Was it about this future "achievement" that our "beloved" Premier was broadcasting? About Digital Segregation? wassat
              What can I say, democracy is so democratic ... lol
            2. Gary zucker
              Gary zucker 22 November 2018 10: 50
              +2
              This is straight from "Catch-22" you can take a quote:

              On a distant farm, which Major Major called his hometown, six people and a Scottish terrier lived. Five of these six, and with them the terrier, as it turned out, collaborated with the FBI. Soon they gathered so much incriminating material on Major Major that they could do anything with him. However, the only thing they could do was send him privates to the army. Four days later, he was promoted to majors, and the congressmen in Washington, abandoning all other affairs, ran back and forth along the sidewalks of the capital, clutching their heads and saying: “Who made this Major major? No, you just tell me who produced it? ”

              And Major Major made an electronic calculating machine, which has almost the same subtle sense of humor as Major Major's dad.


              moreover, this is the time of the Second World War.
    3. Gray brother
      Gray brother 21 November 2018 11: 50
      -3
      Quote: Lieutenant Teterin
      It’s clear that the exam as a type of knowledge control has discredited itself,

      Yes, in fact, it doesn’t differ much from ordinary exams, it’s just public opinion. Well, shkolotronov pin up fun.
      http://detichaik.ru/zdravstvuj-shkola/ege-i-tradicionnyj-ekzamen.html
      1. Lieutenant Teterin
        Lieutenant Teterin 21 November 2018 11: 58
        +5
        I do not agree, there are still differences. The exam is mainly a test exam, preparation for it lays a slightly different type of thinking. In the test, the student can choose from several answer options, which in fact are a clue to the answer. The traditional exam shows the level of information memorized and acquired by the learner.
        1. Gray brother
          Gray brother 21 November 2018 12: 04
          +3
          Quote: Lieutenant Teterin
          . The traditional exam shows the level of information memorized and acquired by the learner.

          Yes, he doesn’t show a damn, I remember several times drove out only on the fact that I got tickets that I know, but for the rest it was an oak-oak.
          Casino, panimash.
          1. Lieutenant Teterin
            Lieutenant Teterin 21 November 2018 12: 08
            +2
            This is a matter of luck. You are a lucky person; for the most part, students still fail on ignorance of tickets.
            1. Gray brother
              Gray brother 21 November 2018 12: 12
              +2
              Quote: Lieutenant Teterin

              This is a matter of luck.

              Not always. At the school, I got the topic "Transport" in the geography exam - I was at a dead end, well, what exactly can you tell about transport? A lot and nothing at the same time.
              As a result, I talked about how one man, drunk, tried to sail away to Turkey on an air mattress.
              Neighing. Three-piece
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      3. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 21 November 2018 12: 43
        +1
        Quote: Gray Brother
        Yes, in fact, it doesn’t differ much from ordinary exams, it’s just public opinion. Well, shkolotronov pin up fun.
        http://detichaik.ru/zdravstvuj-shkola/ege-i-tradicionnyj-ekzamen.html

        the link is the rare stupidity of a person who does not know how to pass exams
        and the differences are HUGE
        By the way, the nonsense to which you gave the link was written by "pidAgog" who himself did not pass normal exams
        1. Gray brother
          Gray brother 21 November 2018 12: 47
          +1
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          the differences are HUGE

          How are they "huge"?
          In the ordinary, you have three questions on the subject but big, and in the one you have many small ones.
          Yesterday there were five - but very large, but today three but small. laughing
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 21 November 2018 12: 53
            +1
            Quote: Gray Brother
            How are they "huge"?

            Quote: Gray Brother
            In the ordinary, you have three questions on the subject but big, and in the one you have many small ones.

            Well, firstly, this is personal communication, which by the way allows you to learn real knowledge on the subject
            secondly, the teacher usually threw up additional questions
            thirdly, if you’re confused, but don’t stupidly don’t know the topic and the teacher saw this, then he could have put the appropriate mark, but the car will stupidly put you
            1. Gray brother
              Gray brother 21 November 2018 13: 05
              -1
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              but the car stupidly puts you unsuccessfully

              Those who do not teach the rules of the road and "get confused", those who also do not put cars.
              And it happens that even without the possibility of retake.
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 21 November 2018 13: 06
                0
                do not confuse God's gift with fried eggs
                1. Gray brother
                  Gray brother 21 November 2018 13: 07
                  -1
                  Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                  do not confuse God's gift with fried eggs

                  I don’t see a difference - both there and there are a training process and an exam.
                  1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                    Vasilenko Vladimir 21 November 2018 14: 22
                    +2
                    the goals and objectives of obtaining knowledge of traffic rules and, for example, literature are completely different
                    and if in the first the only normal option is a test, then in the second it is contraindicated
                    1. Gray brother
                      Gray brother 21 November 2018 14: 25
                      -1
                      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                      goals and objectives of obtaining knowledge

                      They consist in gaining knowledge.
                      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 21 November 2018 15: 13
                        +3
                        Quote: Gray Brother
                        They consist in gaining knowledge.

                        not on your nelly
                        traffic rules fix a certain order (best of all in the form of a conditioned reflex, red - stop, skip to the right - skip, double strip - do not cross, etc.) actions in certain situations and no more

                        knowledge of history literature, etc. involve analysis of events and variability of actions
      4. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 21 November 2018 14: 07
        +3
        Quote: Gray Brother
        Yes, in fact, it doesn’t differ much from ordinary exams, it’s just public opinion. Well, shkolotronov pin up fun.

        So in the USA it’s wound up. In some schools there, teachers do not know if a child can simply write.
        But in Japan, the works of an employee of the NKVD Makarenko are considered mandatory for managers. Yes, and in Germany they are studying.
    4. Tusv
      Tusv 21 November 2018 11: 51
      0
      Quote: Lieutenant Teterin
      World experience shows that so far nothing has been invented better than the traditional exam system.

      Bitcoin will never replace how to shake hands
    5. Faceless
      Faceless 21 November 2018 11: 59
      +9
      I wonder how much more child abuse is required to understand the obvious: no one has come up with anything better than the Soviet education system?

      One of Obama's first decrees was about the failure of the test system in schools.
      The Minister of Education of the United Kingdom openly reports on the experimental introduction of the Soviet system of education in schools in the early 1980s and a threefold increase in the performance of schoolchildren in comparison with their unlucky colleagues who continue to study in the old manner in English.

      The obvious things have long been said openly: that the Unified State Exam is a commercial project, that tests do not reflect real knowledge, they do not teach to speak, and, most importantly, they do not teach to think. Now, here's the blockchain ...
      Something similar happened in the USSR in the 1930s. They quickly abandoned this, but many have long had trouble with history.

      Everything would be funny if it were not so sad. Transferring problems to my own skin: I’m increasingly thinking about opening a private school for my own children, with a Soviet approach to education, where the teacher is not a colleague to the student, but a mentor and authority, where are normal homework so that the child learns both the multiplication table and Pushkin’s poems by heart , where they write expositions and essays, call to the blackboard, hold the class so that students understand why it is not worth littering, in-depth teach history in a patriotic manner, and most importantly - where they educate and explain what is good and what is bad. A school cannot provide adequate education without an educational function. Fortunately, there is still time for several years.

      I apologize for the emotions, but it is boiling. It is very hard to see indifferently how the next rising generation is disappearing, which is already being brought up by those teachers who themselves are victims of the USE.
      1. Lieutenant Teterin
        Lieutenant Teterin 21 November 2018 12: 05
        +2
        Quote: Faceless
        Transferring problems to my own skin: I’m increasingly thinking about opening a private school for my own children, with a Soviet approach to education, where the teacher is not a colleague to the student, but a mentor and authority, where are normal homework so that the child learns both the multiplication table and Pushkin’s poems by heart , where they write expositions and essays, call to the blackboard, hold the class so that students understand why it is not worth littering, in-depth teach history in a patriotic manner, and most importantly - where they educate and explain what is good and what is bad. A school cannot provide adequate education without an educational function.

        I’m thinking about the same. In general, the principles you are talking about are characteristic of the classical education system. The gymnasiums of Imperial Russia, the schools of Kaiser Germany, England, and France were based precisely on these principles: mentoring teachers, strict upbringing, and patriotic education. Not for nothing that in the USSR in the 30s, when they began to reform the school, they took the tsar’s gymnasium as a model ...
      2. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 21 November 2018 12: 48
        +3
        Quote: Faceless
        I wonder how much more child abuse is required to understand the obvious: no one has come up with anything better than the Soviet education system?

        the question is what is the goal, otherwise the Unified State Examination may successfully perform its function, by the way, re-read the plan "Ost"
    6. alexmach
      alexmach 21 November 2018 12: 08
      0
      They would rather replace such a technology ...

      You stole my thought! The idea is very worthwhile.
      And the Unified State Examination itself is a Strange piece, it solves some problems, creates some problems.
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 21 November 2018 12: 49
        +1
        Quote: alexmach
        it solves some problems

        first, the exam, he, and not it (well, if you do not use it as a synonym for a certain substance)
        second, WHAT decides ?!
        1. alexmach
          alexmach 21 November 2018 13: 53
          0
          The Unified State Examination marks corruption when entering universities and introduces a single standard for assessing academic performance, as far as practical it is still a question. I myself studied in Ukraine in general, not in Russia, but I suppose that the problems there are the same plus or minus everywhere. Corruption at universities is simply the death of the education system.
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 21 November 2018 15: 09
            +2
            Quote: alexmach
            Unified State Examination Corrupts Entrance to Universities

            Corruption around the exam
            http://vlasti.biz/bor-ba-s-korruptsciei/korruptsciya-v-obrazovanii/korruptsciya-vokrug-ege.html
            USE has led to rampant corruption
            https://balalaika24.ru/society/ege-privel-k-povalnoy-korruptsii
            Corruption in Russian schools with the introduction of the exam has grown 25 times
            https://ria.ru/education/20110826/424566241.html

            https://yandex.ru/search/?text=%D0%B5%D0%B3%D1%8D%20%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BF%D1%86%D0%B8%D1%8F&lr=129379&clid=2270455&win=359

            Quote: alexmach
            and introduces a single standard for measuring performance

            the standard was in the USSR and now ....
            Quote: alexmach
            Corruption at universities is simply the death of the education system.

            death education system is the exam and the bologna system
            Quote: alexmach
            I myself studied at all в Ukraine, not in Russia

            IN UKRAINE, ON, ON, ON
    7. your1970
      your1970 21 November 2018 14: 42
      0
      Quote: Lieutenant Teterin
      World experience shows that so far nothing has been invented better than the traditional exam system.
      -but there is a nuance - after the introduction of the exams, the teachers will have to either shoot back after each entrance exam and the percentages at 40 or Sechin / Miller will cry with envy and / or nervously smoke aside
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 21 November 2018 15: 14
        -1
        Quote: your1970
        or shoot 40 percent after each entrance exam, or Sechin / Miller will cry with envy and / or nervously smoke aside

        type in a search engine - USE corruption
        1. your1970
          your1970 21 November 2018 21: 28
          -1
          and you type - corruption in exchange exams at universities
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 21 November 2018 21: 55
            -1
            we are talking about the fact that the exam has reduced corruption or not? !!!
            1. your1970
              your1970 22 November 2018 00: 26
              -1
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              we are talking about the fact that the exam has reduced corruption or not? !!!
              all the same you do not read
              Quote: your1970
              and you type - corruption on course university exams

              and there will also be upon admission - Only many times more if the exams are returned. Examination has reduced corruption upon admission
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 22 November 2018 07: 16
                -1
                Quote: your1970
                and it will also be at the reception - only many times more if the exams are returned. The exam has reduced corruption at the reception

                you definitely rave, corruption after the exam has grown
                1. Consultant
                  Consultant 22 November 2018 07: 18
                  0
                  Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                  corruption after the exam has grown

                  Can you justify it?
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                    1. your1970
                      your1970 22 November 2018 08: 39
                      +1
                      and you brought strong facts ...
                      true 12 years ago ... but it's nothing .... the main thing is "the exam is bad !!!"
                      USE has increased corruption in schools in the beginning, but sharply lowered her upon enrolment in universities, there was nothing to pay for

                      if God forbid !!! they will restore the exams, I’m selling a house and a car, I’ll take a bunch of loans, but I'll get a teacher at school (any !!!) - and I’ll beat off all the costs right away, with the first graduation ...
                      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 22 November 2018 10: 24
                        0
                        Quote: your1970

                        and you brought strong facts ...
                        true 12 years ago ...

                        a couple of years ago, a scandal with the exam in Russian
                    2. Consultant
                      Consultant 22 November 2018 10: 14
                      0
                      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                      in google and Yandex banned?

                      And with what fright will I seek confirmation of your fabrications?

                      The exam is just a system of testing knowledge. Whether it is good or bad is a separate issue.
                      With the introduction of the exam, the procedure for admission to the university was extremely simplified, and the basis for corruption on this site, how to say ... greatly impoverished.
                      In principle, at school this soil was not much enriched, provided that everything was done correctly and the examiners did not know the tickets as well as the examiners.

                      So the question remains. And, if possible, in your own words.
                      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 22 November 2018 10: 27
                        -1
                        Quote: Consultant
                        Whether it is good or bad is a separate issue.

                        this is the main question
                        Quote: Consultant
                        And with what fright will I seek confirmation of your fabrications?

                        Yes, don’t look - a flag in your hands, a drum around your neck
                        Quote: Consultant
                        With the introduction of the Unified State Examination, the procedure for admission to the university was extremely simplified, and the ground for corruption in this area, as it were, ... became very poor

                        Now I remind you of the scandal with the exam in Russian
                        Quote: Consultant
                        So the question remains. And, if possible, in your own words.

                        that to you in your own words, that the Unified State Examination is idiocy, as it is, as I already wrote that right now I would not pass an exam in history and the Unified State Examination passed quite well
                      2. Consultant
                        Consultant 22 November 2018 11: 28
                        0
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Now I remind you of the scandal with the exam in Russian

                        What kind of "scandal", specify.

                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        USE idiocy, so it is like I already wrote that right now the history exam would not pass and the USE passed quite well

                        I don’t know what about the history, but you certainly wouldn’t pass the Russian one. And here is a simple question in mathematics:

                        Find cosα if sinα = 0,8 and 90о <α <180о

                        How do you manage without Google? wink

                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        USE idiocy

                        That's a moot point. As a testing system - quite acceptable. As a universal system for assessing knowledge - IMHO yes, not the most optimal.
                      3. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 22 November 2018 13: 43
                        0
                        Quote: Consultant
                        What kind of "scandal", specify.

                        did you fall from the moon?
                        Quote: Consultant
                        Find cosα if sinα = 0,8 and 90о <α <180о

                        Believe me, I can handle it, I have a physical education school and a university physics department, but I will not prove
                        Quote: Consultant
                        but Russian, you certainly wouldn’t pass

                        I will not argue, there has always been a problem
                      4. Consultant
                        Consultant 22 November 2018 19: 46
                        0
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Quote: Consultant
                        What kind of "scandal", specify.

                        did you fall from the moon?

                        Are you able to communicate calmly? I don’t have to know what kind of "scandal with the Russian" you mean.

                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Quote: Consultant
                        Find cos (α) if sin (α) = 0,8 and 90о <α <180о

                        Believe me, I can handle it, I have a physical education school and a university physics department

                        I believe. But the conversation was that "the exam is idiocy." So, even this simple task involves moving your brains a little. There are also more funny puzzles, you will probably be surprised.

                        I repeat: USE,

                        Quote: Consultant
                        As a testing system - quite acceptable. As a universal system for assessing knowledge - IMHO yes, not the most optimal
                      5. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 22 November 2018 20: 34
                        0
                        Quote: Consultant
                        There are more fun puzzles, you will probably be surprised.

                        Is this the task of the final exam?
                        then I am not surprised reviews of university professors level lower and lower
                        Quote: Consultant
                        I don’t have to know what kind of "scandal with the Russian" you mean.

                        I ask you from the moon?
                      6. Consultant
                        Consultant 22 November 2018 21: 08
                        0
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Is this the task of the final exam?

                        It Easy a task. There are much more complex ones. Variants of the exam in physics and mathematics in the net - darkness is dark, before judging (a la "I have not read, I condemn") - try to solve a couple of three. For the allotted time. Then "be surprised".

                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        I ask you from the moon?

                        Not. Accordingly, he did not fall from there, and was not even there even once.

                        But you, it seems, are not able to answer the simplest question:

                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        I recall the scandal with the exam in Russian

                        Quote: Consultant
                        What kind of "scandal", specify

                        Is it really that hard? Or are you unsure of the answer?
                      7. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 22 November 2018 21: 32
                        0
                        Quote: Consultant
                        But you, it seems, are not able to answer the simplest question:

                        which one?
                        Quote: Consultant
                        Is it really that hard? Or are you unsure of the answer?

                        Google again to help, I do not intend to voice well-known facts, all the media wrote about this lazily your problems
                        Quote: Consultant
                        - try to solve a couple of three. For the allotted time. Then "be surprised".

                        dear enough to flood and catch weakly
                      8. Consultant
                        Consultant 22 November 2018 21: 37
                        0
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        which one?

                        Quote: Anecdote
                        Mail arrives badly ... I open the letter, and I feel - didn't get it

                        I have already voiced your question three times. IMHO - reasonably enough wink

                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Google again to help, I do not intend to voice well-known facts, all the media wrote about this lazily your problems

                        I have no idea what "all the media wrote" about, I practically don't read them. And your reluctance to clarify exactly what you mean leads to sad thoughts. request

                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        stop flood

                        Flood (and flame) here is you, I'm just trying to distract you from this nice occupation.

                        It seems, however, that you are not able to confirm your high-profile statements. It’s sad.
  2. asv96
    asv96 21 November 2018 11: 40
    +2
    They won’t go to the net. Where is the money to hide it.
  3. Gray brother
    Gray brother 21 November 2018 11: 40
    +3
    In terms of bitcoins or something?
  4. Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 21 November 2018 11: 40
    +2
    Those. first-year students in technical universities will cease to finish up to the required level?
  5. Vladislav_2
    Vladislav_2 21 November 2018 11: 41
    +6
    It’s time to remove this heresy from education am in children, the brain is boiling from your dope!
  6. Gray brother
    Gray brother 21 November 2018 11: 42
    +5
    I thought the level of knowledge should be determined.
    allows you to evaluate the individuality of each person
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 21 November 2018 11: 47
      +8
      It would be nice to evaluate the individuality of each State Duma deputy ... lately, something they come up with laws that fit to think about their mental health.
      1. Gray brother
        Gray brother 21 November 2018 11: 55
        +3
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        It would be nice to evaluate the personality of each State Duma deputy ..

        There are more than 350 biorobots sitting there - they press a button at the command, they generally have seams with individuality. You can instead of them plant monkeys that will do the same for a banana.
  7. Axel
    Axel 21 November 2018 11: 44
    +4
    Has the cuckoo completely moved away from the gentlemen of the deputies from "lawmaking" in the Maldives? Hey, people! How do you like that?
  8. Hole puncher
    Hole puncher 21 November 2018 11: 46
    +7
    Argentine coke, heat, July ...
  9. barsuk
    barsuk 21 November 2018 11: 47
    +6
    Robots will be raised.
  10. Gerklim
    Gerklim 21 November 2018 11: 53
    +3
    The fact that the exam is necessary to refuse is a fact. But who will decide on this? After all, so many forces were swelled into the collapse of education.
  11. taiga2018
    taiga2018 21 November 2018 11: 54
    +3
    why don't the deputies experiment, their children study abroad ...
  12. Lieutenant Teterin
    Lieutenant Teterin 21 November 2018 11: 55
    0
    Quote: Underwater Hunter
    In general, in order to comment, you need to reveal in more detail what kind of animal this "blockchain" is, the name already repels.

    Blockchain is an information technology, built according to certain rules, a continuous sequential chain of blocks (linked list) containing information. Most often, copies of block chains are stored on many different computers independently of each other.
  13. BAI
    BAI 21 November 2018 11: 56
    +1

    substitute talent early warning system students based on blockchain technology


    ........
    which with "mathematical precision" allows you to evaluate the individuality of each person whose data was entered into the e-school program.


    And the desire of the child at the time of graduation how to consider gathered?
  14. Archivist Vasya
    Archivist Vasya 21 November 2018 11: 57
    +3
    I agree that the exam should be replaced, but what kind of block chain is still not clear, I'm afraid that there is still a big heresy ... Return entrance exams, as before.
  15. snake
    snake 21 November 2018 11: 59
    +1
    The Soviet educational system was very decent. Modernize it, correlate it with modern realities and - off you go! How did these "managers" and "creatives" get it in the state fool! For them, Russia is a testing ground where they can show all their idiocy and hopeless stupidity.
  16. Azazelo
    Azazelo 21 November 2018 12: 01
    +4
    Develop a policy of "healthy" egoism. We'll select the kids with brains, train them and send them over the hill. And all the rest should be able to sign only in credits. No more need, otherwise you never know what can arise in educated brains.
  17. The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 21 November 2018 12: 02
    +7
    Lord, deliver our country from these "lawmakers" !! Well, how much can you, then ?? Either an aunt with new packages (a lover of carry-on luggage), or an uncle, with blockchains (you see, I recently read, somewhere, and is ready to "apply") How long ??
  18. Fedorov
    Fedorov 21 November 2018 12: 08
    +4
    Instead of a block chain, we were sent to school on a tractor or GAZon with ZIL to study, I personally stood behind a turning 16k20, the girls sewed something and made it. And in my opinion it helped in life. They invent all kinds of crap. True, my father also bought a programmable calculator MK-61 for 85 rubles, it helped too. The truth did not really help the collapse of the USSR.
    1. Henderson
      Henderson 21 November 2018 13: 26
      +2
      Quote: Fedorov
      They invent all kinds of crap.

  19. HMR333
    HMR333 21 November 2018 12: 17
    +4
    idiocy return the normal Soviet system in which a lot of adequate and smart people learned!
  20. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 21 November 2018 12: 19
    +2
    A counter proposal is to apply this technology and these criteria when evaluating the results of the work of deputies.
  21. krops777
    krops777 21 November 2018 12: 28
    +1
    The new system, he writes, should be based on three components: the student’s assessments, the results of career guidance and his social activity.


    Lord deliver us from these foolish lawmakers.
    Where they saw a socially active genius, as a rule these are very reserved people. 90 percent of students decide on a choice of profession only in the eleventh grade, and grades are far from an indicator of whom they were going to identify in the early stages, it is not clear, if only to their kind.
  22. Dimon grin
    Dimon grin 21 November 2018 12: 29
    0
    Academics to the answer: 2x10 = 20 or 2x10 = 1024? Well, what is right? The question is not for schoolchildren and students, but adult uncles Academics. And then you will fool our little children, and rob the adults on a salary.
    1. minus
      minus 21 November 2018 15: 29
      +1
      And what is your comment? Naturally 20. Do you apparently have the most tight with math? Or not aware that the exponent has a different mathematical symbol? This is how it will be correct 2 ^ 10 = 1024. Found, professor .....
  23. Hariton laptev
    Hariton laptev 21 November 2018 12: 34
    0
    Another nonsense. How much you can do picking your nose from idleness. Who is what a lot. Before suggesting such nonsense, let them think about the fact that a child can open up by the age of 18 or even at 18 yen know what they want which blockchain in one place, how much can a foreigner drag us to. Well, you don’t like something, I packed my suitcase to the station and got to where you like. And all issues are resolved. It would be better if they did what they brought to mind.
  24. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 21 November 2018 12: 39
    +3
    maybe it’s time to replace the Duma, it feels like their bottom has been knocked out and idiotic ideas come from there
    1. Cympak
      Cympak 21 November 2018 12: 57
      +2
      It is useless to change the Duma. The electoral system needs to be changed. And so some fools will be replaced by others who have passed the party lists. Which we actually didn't even choose. "More terrible than a fool - only with initiative"
  25. Cympak
    Cympak 21 November 2018 12: 51
    +3
    Does the deputy understand what he is proposing? In fact, his idea is to translate the student diary into electronic form and protect the technology of blocks from modification. All! But everything else: about career guidance, practice and social activity and the mathematical accuracy of assessing the individuality of each student - this most likely refers to the big date. Probably, these are the illiterate deputies who pass to the Duma according to party lists. I would not say anything, I would continue to go smart
  26. seregatara1969
    seregatara1969 21 November 2018 13: 11
    +2
    (blockchain - and the Russian language is impoverished to such an extent that there are not enough words to denote any action or subject? How do the ombudsmen think?
    1. Henderson
      Henderson 21 November 2018 13: 29
      -2
      There is no word in Russian that could be used to designate this technology.
      Tell me better, what do you call the Internet in pure Russian then, the global system of integrated networks of electronic computers for storing and transmitting information, or even worse?
    2. Blaster
      Blaster 21 November 2018 13: 47
      +1
      They themselves do not know what and how, but with import words it is more convenient to powder brains
    3. Cympak
      Cympak 21 November 2018 14: 37
      +2
      The closest concept is a logbook, in which all pages are numbered, stitched, all entries on the pages go one after another, indicating who made them and when. Digging out is not allowed, if necessary, corrective entries are made.
      The blockchain still has an important mechanism for reaching consensus, i.e. Who has the right to make entries in the journal, but our officials usually forget about this mechanism. It’s clear: only the one who is supposed to write can write, and this decreases the main idea of ​​the blockchain about distributed you and independence.
  27. TAMBU
    TAMBU 21 November 2018 13: 24
    +3
    Purely my opinion.
    The exam must be abolished, and its authors brought to justice. It is desirable to criminal, but you can also punish denyushkoy.
    Representatives ONLY of the pedagogical community in the face of recognized authorities should offer an alternative. They need to be organized, and then they themselves will be able to find the optimal program.
  28. K-50
    K-50 21 November 2018 13: 27
    +5
    Stop nonsense to suffer !!
    Give the children back their normal exams, without any "improvements" !!!
    Earlier, with them, the Soviet school was the best !!!
  29. Million
    Million 21 November 2018 13: 34
    +2
    Maybe it’s not bad, but good and warm places will still not be taken by the smartest, but the children of officials
  30. Gardamir
    Gardamir 21 November 2018 13: 54
    0
    First you need to check the deputies.
  31. Servisinzhener
    Servisinzhener 21 November 2018 13: 54
    +1
    It may be enough to look for a philosopher's stone to improve the level of education. And to draw up a normal training program, one for the whole country, with uniform textbooks and manuals. To free teachers from making unnecessary writings. And reassign schools from the local level to the federal.
  32. ASG7
    ASG7 21 November 2018 14: 03
    +1
    As usual, everything is turned upside down. The problem in Russian education is the quality of teaching (in all educational institutions without exception), and not the level of knowledge among graduates. And the Unified State Exam, along with tight control (under video cameras in the classroom), must be introduced for the teaching staff of schools and not blamed for the children and their parents.
    Well, here you have the level of our ministers - all the facts are on the face.
  33. rocket757
    rocket757 21 November 2018 14: 25
    +1
    Quote: Lieutenant Teterin
    They would rather replace such a technology ...

    Quote: Underwater Hunter
    what kind of beast is this "blockchain", the name already repels.

    Quote: Ushly_bashkort
    Well, how is it done behind a puddle. The next nonsense.

    Quote: Zubr
    What is blockchain I do not know. But I definitely know our rich experience of our Russian school.

    Quote: Zhora Permsky
    It's funny, American elites study according to textbooks from the time of Stalin, but we write an exam in Russian in the form of a test

    Quote: Observer2014
    So I see hereditary judges, policemen and the military too. Directly the computer will be independent of anyone to issue a ticket to life Prikalisty

    Anyone write a good word to our reformers ??? Sales have no doubt, we state this remarkable, obvious fact!
    1. Henderson
      Henderson 21 November 2018 18: 16
      0
      Here, few people understand what it is about and what this word generally means. And he is such a Russian mentality. Any incomprehensible word is perceived as a curse and they are afraid of it.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 21 November 2018 18: 48
        0
        Who cares, he finds out .... whole lecture discussions on News FM held once a week, at least because it is a TOPIC for the future! And about training, they have been discussing different things for a long time.
        They want to destroy our solid education for the sake of what has not been verified, has no positive assessment!
        Run ahead of the rest of the planet! Why, firstly, and secondly, who are these goats-z-z "reformers"? Where is the list of their achievements? Where is the scientific and other recognition of their works?
        And everything else that our authorities allowed to such an important area of ​​our state as education.
        This is sabotage, this is mishandled Cossacks! This is an enemy encroaching on our future!
        1. Henderson
          Henderson 22 November 2018 12: 13
          -1
          You have almost reached the correct conclusion. It remains only to combine the words "power" and "enemy".
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 22 November 2018 12: 59
            +1
            This power, the enemy of my people, my country!
            As always, BUT, they are at the moment POWER, we live under them, even such a government should have responsibility for the future of the country!
  34. Cympak
    Cympak 21 November 2018 14: 46
    -2
    If we reform education, then in a Finnish manner, which allows us to engage the student in the educational process, and insist on it with a system of unsatisfactory grades and prospects, to remain without a bright future.
    For example: in literature we study "War and Peace" at the same time in history we study the Napoleonic Wars, in the geography of Europe and the European part of Russia, in the biology of plants and the fauna of Europe, in mathematics we consider the logistics of the Great Army, the speed of its movement, in physics the calculated ballistics and kinetic energy of the nucleus of the 20-pound cannon.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 21 November 2018 15: 20
      +1
      Quote: Cympak
      For example: we study "War and Peace" in literature at the same time in history we study the Napoleonic wars, in the geography of Europe and the European part of Russia

      it doesn’t work when they study War and Peace, physical geography, they’ve already passed, and in history they study the latest history
      Quote: Cympak
      in mathematics we consider the logistics of providing the Great Army, its speed, in physics the calculated ballistics and kinetic energy of the core of a 20-pound gun.

      did you study at school ?!
      mechanics in physics is studied at the very beginning - 6 CLASS do you propose to study war and peace in the sixth grade? !!!!
      math logistics is generally cool, you liked the word so much that you insert it everywhere, even though you don’t seem to understand what it means
  35. ochakow703
    ochakow703 21 November 2018 16: 07
    +1
    Everything is strange. They are adopting all the dregs from Geyrop and America, and they completely lost their built system. Our people in power are probably shy, or afraid of everything that was created in the Soviet Union. Well, okay, you don't even need to talk about the CPSU, there are no people who could lead this party, and the communists of the last years of the USSR, and even more so Russia, have discredited themselves. But there was a well-functioning and well-thought-out education system. Why be ashamed of her. We don't need smart, competent people! And this exam training will bring the nation to a complete dullness. When the Unified State Exam was introduced, we were all told that everyone is equal now, and a child from the most seedy village (if he is a genius) will be able to enter the best universities in the country (if his dad is a millionaire). What came of all this? Every year the number of 100 ballroom students grows, and the level of education falls. Disagree? Your right. Only I personally see how an excellent schoolgirl looks with fear at the map of the World, having received the task to find India. And as the usual colloquial speech of graduates subsided, it is generally impossible to build a dialogue with half of them, and even if you try to discuss with them ... Mom dear! And this is all a vaunted and enthusiastically promoted system by the Ministry of Non-Education. Our Ministry of Education, and behind it all the idlers, officials, only do what they come up with various monitoring and reports. Well, they have nothing more to do, and they can do nothing more. Everyone to watch the film - "Girl without an address"! There is a story about the Ministry of Education! But on the ground, at school, the teacher thinks about whether to do it with the children, or sit down to fill out another electronic journal (free of charge), or write a report. Here is a small example from the life of a teacher. She's a great mom. She has 25 ogledov. There are 28-30 hours of lessons per week. Plus the class, all different, with their own quirks. To this there is an even more terrible army of parents who were able to conceive and give birth, and they do not have more knowledge on the USE system. They only require special treatment for their children. Further, daily notebooks, diaries, tests and control. So, the teacher must also keep a separate portfolio for each student, in which she is obliged to invest not only copies of letters and diplomas, but also various tests, starting with thematic control. Regularly analyze the success of each child, and so on. And the salary? In 90% of cases, teachers are silent. They work with children. It's a shame to complain, the children are not to blame.
    1. your1970
      your1970 22 November 2018 17: 56
      0
      Quote: ochakow703
      But there was a well-functioning and well-thought-out educational system. Why are you ashamed of her? We do not need smart, competent people! And this USEshnaya training will bring to complete dullness of the nation. .
      -
      Do you want a picture of such an exam? If the exam is removed?
      "-Aha Vasya ... my father drinks, his mother thumps, he seems to be studying ... no, I don't like him, he was daring in the first grade ...
      -Aha Mila ... mom’s salon + clothing store, and has been calling for a long time ... 4 girl, even though she’s silly
      -Aha Kolya ... he has a dad on Kruzak, he’s driving a couple of bucks-a penny .... 5 Kolya ...
      -Opa, Magomed ... he's definitely five, otherwise it's late to go home through their yard in the evening "
      about the children of officials / oligarchs / bandits-speculate yourself

      In the absolutely Soviet 1985 year, all five of us received the daughter of the head of the district consumer union, because she always had a deficit, and the girl was not even a little stupid. According to the same scheme, the institute graduated
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 22 November 2018 19: 04
        0
        Quote: your1970
        he himself seems to be studying ... no, I do not like him, dared in the first grade ... a triple to him

        life experience?
        Quote: your1970
        In the absolutely Soviet 1985 year, all five of us received the daughter of the head of the district consumer union, because she always had a deficit, and the girl was not even a little stupid. According to the same scheme, the institute graduated

        but we didn’t have this
        1. your1970
          your1970 22 November 2018 20: 44
          0
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          Quote: your1970
          he himself seems to be studying ... no, I do not like him, dared in the first grade ... a triple to him

          life experience?
          Quote: your1970
          In the absolutely Soviet 1985 year, all five of us received the daughter of the head of the district consumer union, because she always had a deficit, and the girl was not even a little stupid. According to the same scheme, the institute graduated

          but we didn’t have this
          -and we have - IT WAS, and in the Central Asian republics, it was generally the norm
          and a joke
          "This is not a ram - a ram at the institute, but this is a gift!" invented under dear Leonid Ilyich
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 22 November 2018 21: 34
            0
            Quote: your1970
            and in the Central Asian republics, it was generally the norm

            studied at 54 high school in Almaty, KazSSR, we didn’t have this
            Quote: your1970
            This is not a ram - a ram at the institute, but this is a gift!

            and now different?
            1. your1970
              your1970 23 November 2018 09: 48
              0
              Well, you convinced me ...
              there was no corruption in the Kazakh SSR (14 km from me), there was no deficit, there were no bribes, "is there a red book?! drive through!", there were probably no books in the shops for which they choked and handed over waste paper in Moscow ... ..
              Not Kazakhstan-Sweden was any, yeah ......
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              Quote: your1970
              This is not a ram - a ram at the institute, but this is a gift!
              and now different?
              -we talked about the fact that the exam allows students to enter from the hinterland and reduces corruption upon admission in high schools.
              Мы NOT were talking about bribes at the session is NOT is the task of the exam
  36. 1536
    1536 21 November 2018 16: 07
    +3
    In the USSR, there was such a concept as "choosing a life path." After graduating from school, the young man himself chose where to go to study, work, serve, etc. And this choice made it possible to make the education received at school - universal and classical (secondary in general education), and only then the connections of the parents and their wallet. Now someone or something will select the most "worthy" ones. And who will choose these electorate? Thus, the concept of education as such is excluded from the choice scheme.
  37. rus-5819
    rus-5819 21 November 2018 16: 48
    +1
    A blockchain is a continuous, built according to certain rules, a chain (linked list) of blocks containing the necessary information.


    Or maybe it’s enough to experiment with children (they’re not Pavlov’s dogs) ?!
    At the beginning of the last century, there were many attempts to "reorganize" the educational process, but still returned to the gymnasium (albeit sovietized) form of education.
  38. samarin1969
    samarin1969 21 November 2018 18: 23
    +2
    If many respected VO experts did not judge the school superficially, they would not kick the exam. At the very least, the Unified State Exam slows down the inadequacy of admission to universities. Otherwise, the possibility of admission will be generally closed for children from poor families. Trade in "budget places" has become an end in itself of the "high school" elite. For the sake of such money, they launched a persecution of the exam. Every day I give different tasks to students - motivated, smart children always achieve the best results with any grading system.
    Children in schools have only ONE single big problem - insufficient MOTIVATION.
    The most successful people in our time are the highly paid part of the "hard workers" and business officials. Both those and others need "specific" knowledge. And children see it, and do not see the point in "islands, logarithms, pistils and all kinds of revolutions." Therefore, 90% of students only imitate learning. At least with the Unified State Exam, at least with the "gymnasium exam" they ALL will be given the same legal force certificates. Even illiterate and insane. negative
    1. ochakow703
      ochakow703 21 November 2018 20: 07
      +2
      I agree with your argument about MOTIVATION. But let's analyze where it comes from. A lot of children are not motivated by their parents, for the reason that the plant (or something else) ordered to live a long time, and dad's higher education and an engineering diploma are not listed in store security. A large number of children see and perceive life with the body ... and other screens, and there are two extremes - either a bandit or a banker (businessman), and both of them came to the "profession" not thanks to the intelligence and knowledge gained at school. And the third position is determined by the very principle of passing the exams - "yes, damn it, I won't guess something ... or I'll write it off in the toilet."
      Now, if all these factors are removed, then everyone who has more than one gyrus in their brains will have motivation. You often see a working person on TV, even if artistically represented, even in the news. And if we do, then it is either a loser who has not become either a bandit or a businessman, or we are shown another button that, under "stormy and prolonged applause" some bureaucrats. Where does it (motivation) come from?
      Well, about the exam. After all, you cannot but agree that in this method of teaching and assessing the quality of knowledge, more than 50% training is present. What do you think is the solution of such problems (tasks), tests in the 9th - 11th grades? I do not argue that there are outstanding students, but for the bulk of children, secondary complete education is eleven years of sitting out of trousers and training to obtain a "certificate of equal legal force." And most of the material values ​​just should be produced by these, from the "bulk".
      Remember yourself facing a commission on an exam. And how you prepared for this moment, remember. Hundreds of comparisons will immediately pop up between a soulless test and live examiners.
    2. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 21 November 2018 20: 14
      0
      Quote: samarin1969
      At the very least, the Unified State Exam inhibits inadequacy when entering university. Otherwise, children from poor families will generally be barred from admission

      do you really think that a teenager from the hinterland will be able to enter Moscow or St. Petersburg? !!!!
      and as for the inhibition of inadequacy, I only talked with the university teacher, if she omitted the mats, she said nothing, a joke of course, but very close to reality
      Quote: samarin1969
      Both those and others need "specific" knowledge. And children see it, and do not see the point in "islands, logarithms, pistils and any revolutions"

      and why are they "literate consumer"? !!!
      consumers need to be able to distinguish a stub from a mess, and Tolstoy from Kuprin is not necessary
      1. your1970
        your1970 22 November 2018 18: 00
        0
        a nephew's classmate is studying in Baumanka on the 3 course, 1200 km from us to him .....
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 22 November 2018 19: 06
          0
          Quote: your1970
          a nephew's classmate is studying in Baumanka on the 3 course, 1200 km from us to him .....

          I wouldn’t have studied before ?!
          only now the problem is not in the brain but in the fact that students need to live somewhere
          1. your1970
            your1970 22 November 2018 20: 48
            0
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            I wouldn’t have studied before ?!
            only now the problem is not in the brain but in the fact that students need to live somewhere
            -and I would have studied before ... only then the teachers at the institutes had enough "Volga-24", and now for some reason they want a "Porsche"
          2. your1970
            your1970 22 November 2018 20: 51
            +1
            you even contradict yourself
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            you really think that a teenager from the outback can enter in Moscow or St. Petersburg? !!!!

            and write right there
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            only now the problem is not in the brain but in the fact that live students need somewhere

            what relation "live" has to Unified State Examination? The question of the exam.
            even in Soviet times, not everyone could live in cities, even in hostels.
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 22 November 2018 21: 35
              -1
              Quote: your1970
              what does "live" have to do with the exam?

              direct when they say that the exam provides an opportunity to enter low-income from the hinterland - DOES NOT
              1. Consultant
                Consultant 22 November 2018 21: 49
                0
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                when they say that the exam provides an opportunity to enter low-income from the hinterland - DOES NOT

                You think so. Explain why you think so, you are not able to. Suggest you, as a Zheltman, take a word?

                Somehow reluctance for some reason ...
                1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Vasilenko Vladimir 23 November 2018 11: 06
                  -2
                  Quote: Consultant
                  You think so. Explain why you think so, you are not able

                  Have you tried to read everything I wrote ?!
              2. your1970
                your1970 23 November 2018 09: 51
                +1
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                direct when they say that the exam provides an opportunity to enter low-income from the hinterland - DOES NOT
                - i.e. following YOURS logic in the case of cancellation of the exam and the return of exams - low-income students will immediately gain the opportunity live и is learning in the town??? fool fool
                1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Vasilenko Vladimir 23 November 2018 11: 07
                  -2
                  no, but it is not necessary to say that the exam provides this opportunity
                  USE primarily reduces training
                  1. your1970
                    your1970 23 November 2018 17: 03
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                    you are stubborn - by God!
                    The exam does not affect education until the last class — my son graduates from school .. Now they started to train them — yes, but in the last year before last — ordinary subjects, ordinary lessons, ordinary requirements, absolutely ordinary children (the same for 90 and 80)
                    You were offered an example there now to solve - and now I graduated from high school in 1987 with fives in algebra / geometry. I DO NOT know how to solve it.
                    What - I'm a victim of the exam ???
                    Before the introduction of the Unified State Examination in Saratov, two or three teachers were caught and planted each year in entrance exams (I received the 2-2000-tower in absentia in absentia). Tax was from 2006 and higher from the nose for admission. I do not need to explain what 50000 50 in 000 -m - it’s like Paul Lyam now (and that’s not a fact) ... Now this is not there, not at all ...

                    caught in teacher sessions - and then much less
    3. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 21 November 2018 20: 31
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      Quote: samarin1969
      Both those and others need "specific" knowledge.

      Specific knowledge must be studied in specific uch. institutions. And so, according to Madame Prostakova: "Why do we need geography, the cabman will take it."
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 21 November 2018 21: 03
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        Quote: Mordvin 3
        "Why do we need geography, a cabman will take you."

        navigator laughing Google how to get to the push? !!!
  39. marsel1524
    marsel1524 21 November 2018 21: 04
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    I have an Internet speed of 1 Mbps for the whole school, and here blockchain hahaha
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 21 November 2018 21: 56
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      where is it so? belay