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US media ridiculed Macron's idea of ​​a European army

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The American media ridiculed the idea of ​​French President Emmanuel Macron about creating a pan-European army independent of the United States. Leading American television channel Fox News called the idea of ​​the European army ridiculous and said that without the US, Europe would not be able to defend its territory.


US media ridiculed Macron's idea of ​​a European army


The American television station Fox News ridiculed the idea of ​​French President Emmanuel Macron, who announced the possible creation of a united army of Europe without US participation. Leading the channel called modern Europe purely pacifist territory, unable to ensure their own security without the participation of the American army. According to them, Europe has long lost its belligerence and is unable to create independent armed forces. All these years, the United States defended the European Union, without America, Europe is nothing, said Fox News. Macron's statements about the European army are nothing more than an attempt to raise their shaky rating.

Earlier, Macron made a proposal to create a pan-European army to protect against Russia, China and the United States, including in cyberspace. Macron’s proposal was supported by German Chancellor Angela Merkel, while Donald Trump found the proposal “insulting” and demanded that all expenses that the USA spent on protecting Europe be paid first.
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  1. afrikanez
    afrikanez 20 November 2018 12: 15
    +8
    And all because the very idea of ​​the Euro Army is absurd for the Americans, they are aware that Europe is under their full control (occupied) negative
    1. spirit
      spirit 20 November 2018 12: 26
      +4
      So Europe itself would not mind being in occupation. The United States pays for everything, wonderful) Trump says about this and you can’t even pay your insignificant contributions to NATO; At whose expense is Mr. Macron's banquet? hi
      1. Underwater hunter
        Underwater hunter 20 November 2018 12: 33
        +1
        Quote: spirit
        So Europe itself would not mind being in occupation. The United States pays for everything, wonderful) Trump says about this and you can’t even pay your insignificant contributions to NATO; At whose expense is Mr. Macron's banquet? hi

        Europe does not pay contributions, because it does not really see a threat from Russia, but now it has come to them that they are becoming a target for our nuclear weapons because of the actions of the USA .. And in their heads, an idea began to appear .. and we need it die for American interests ..
        1. Shurik70
          Shurik70 20 November 2018 12: 56
          +2
          I believe that the Americans themselves would not be against the European Army.
          In any case, it will be under the control of the United States, but instead of individual NATO countries, all of Europe will be under control.
          All the indignation of the Americans over Macron’s small reservation. what will it be army "against Russia and the USA". Remove four letters, and the Americans will be totally FOR.
    2. Machito
      Machito 20 November 2018 12: 26
      +9
      The USA is shorter than the Bolshoi Theater, and of course than the European states. European countries had powerful armies when Columbus was not yet born. America is mocking Europe for nothing. Taunts hinder.
      Behind the nervous laugh of the USA one feels a fear of losing Europe.
      1. Underwater hunter
        Underwater hunter 20 November 2018 12: 30
        +1
        Quote: Bearded
        The USA is shorter than the Bolshoi Theater, and of course than the European states. European countries had powerful armies when Columbus was not yet born. America is mocking Europe for nothing. Taunts hinder.
        Behind the nervous laugh of the USA one feels a fear of losing Europe.

        I agree. But this will happen only after the American economy collapses .. I’ve been waiting 20 years for this to happen ..
        1. Machito
          Machito 20 November 2018 13: 15
          +6
          No need to wait, it is necessary to help as much as possible. laughing
          1. Wedmak
            Wedmak 20 November 2018 13: 42
            0
            If you had a clear plan for this assistance, I think the end would have come much faster. Maybe even in a month. ))) But somehow scattered attempts by individuals are ineffective.
            1. Shurik70
              Shurik70 20 November 2018 20: 54
              0
              Quote: Wedmak

              If you had a clear plan for this assistance, I think the end would have come much faster. Maybe even in a month. )))

              The plan is completely obvious.
              All the power of the United States rests on its economy.
              The US economy is backed by infusions from the rest of the world.
              And this leech will suck juices from all over the world until it is destroyed, or until it destroys the world.
              So the direct and natural way for humanity to survive is to get rid of American pieces of paper. To begin with - at least convince the population to get rid of dollars. If they do not trust the ruble, then let them invest ... Well, for example, in the yuan.
              At the state level - get rid of American securities, abandon dollars in interstate trade. So with a month you are in a hurry. How many talk about it, but "things are still there". Although Russia is showing an example here.
              1. Wedmak
                Wedmak 21 November 2018 06: 26
                +1
                get rid of american paper

                Well, in fact, this point, let’s say, I have fulfilled. He held the dollars in his hands twice, and then no more than a week. But with the state it will be more difficult, yes.
        2. Yura
          Yura 20 November 2018 14: 49
          0
          Quote: Underwater Hunter
          american economy

          Of course they exist (economics), but most importantly they have an army that guards the printing press. And yes, I agree with you and everyone who thinks the same.
    3. Samaritan
      Samaritan 20 November 2018 12: 49
      0
      The main task is to cut the budget and who else but France and Germany can create and sell weapons to everyone else !?
    4. Yura
      Yura 20 November 2018 14: 44
      0
      Quote: afrikanez
      And all because the very idea of ​​the Euro Army is absurd for the Americans, they are aware that Europe is under their full control (occupied)

      And therefore
      Donald Trump recognized such a proposal as "offensive"
      After that, in France, almost without a pause, unrest began, with carnage and firing, where looters, on the sly, arrange pogroms. So the "offended" Trump does not throw words to the wind, the "fas" team works according to a well-established scenario.
  2. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 20 November 2018 12: 20
    +5
    To protect the territory - from the USA? Precisely without our help they will not protect ...
  3. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 20 November 2018 12: 21
    +5
    The Fox Tales are partly right. Europe really cannot defend itself. They just have no fighting spirit, and no matter what kind of army they have. Another thing is that they have no one to defend against. Russia does not need this gathering of "creatures of indeterminate sex", strongly diluted by crowds of Islamists. We have our own rich land, so it is simply criminal to spoil it with the poor (in terms of minerals) territories.
    1. Mitya2424
      Mitya2424 20 November 2018 12: 37
      +1
      I agree with you !!! I will add that the European army is really funny, but after 20-30, taking into account the latest trends, the army of some (pah-pah-pah) European caliphate is quite real for itself, but this is a serious hassle ... ...
  4. Mitya2424
    Mitya2424 20 November 2018 12: 23
    +6
    The case when you should agree with the American media.
    Not those Europeans, not those, all passionaries ended in 45, and the best of them fertilized the Soviet black soil.
    1. Altona
      Altona 20 November 2018 13: 07
      +1
      Quote: Mitya2424
      Not those Europeans, not those, all passionaries ended in 45, and the best of them fertilized the Soviet black soil.

      ------------------------
      The goal of the United States in post-war Europe was to knock out the spirit of Bismarck and the spirit of Napoleon from the French from the Germans, which they did with success.
      1. Mitya2424
        Mitya2424 20 November 2018 13: 12
        +1
        The goal they have at all times is ONE MONEY, and ghost hunters struggle with the spirits of them.
        And about the figures you mentioned, plus from myself I’ll add a comrade in a brown shirt with a bang and a small mustache, the Americans yearn for their grandmother. For there are none like them - there is no GREAT war in Europe, respectively, no super profits !!!
        1. Altona
          Altona 20 November 2018 13: 14
          0
          Quote: Mitya2424
          The goal they have at all times is ONE MONEY, and ghost hunters struggle with the spirits of them.

          ----------------------
          Americans were engaged in denazification. They drove the Europeans guilty.
          1. Mitya2424
            Mitya2424 20 November 2018 13: 20
            0
            Denazification is a set of measures aimed at debunking Nazi ideology. I do not see anything wrong with this, if the Americans were doing this, they should have said "thank you", BUT they didn’t fucking do it, on the contrary, they themselves have sunk to "exclusiveness" !!!
      2. Tutejszy
        Tutejszy 20 November 2018 15: 47
        0
        Quote: Altona
        The goal of the United States in post-war Europe was to knock out the spirit of Bismarck and the spirit of Napoleon from the French from the Germans, which they did with success.

        Even Herodotus wrote about this case: shortly after Cyrus the Great conquered Lydia and captured her king Croesus, the Lydians rebelled against him under the leadership of a certain Pactius. Cyrus told Croesus that he intended to suppress the rebellion with all severity and sell all Lydians into slavery. Croesus, in order to save his people, replied: "The culprit of the current uprising is Paktius, to whom you gave Sardis. You will punish him! And show condescension to the Lydians. In order for them not to revolt again and you did not need to fear them. , do this: send a messenger and forbid them to have military weapons and order them to wear tunics and high boots on their feet under their cloaks. Then have them teach their children to play the cithara and lyre and engage in petty trade. And you will see, king, how soon they will come from husbands will turn into women, so you will never have to fear rebellion. "
        Cyrus heeded the advice of Croesus - so the Lydians retained freedom, but lost their fighting spirit forever ...
  5. IGU
    IGU 20 November 2018 12: 23
    +2
    It would be surprising to see Fox News endorsement of the idea of ​​creating a united European army without US involvement.
    1. Sergey39
      Sergey39 20 November 2018 12: 28
      +2
      All that remains for them is to laugh. Nobody listens to them for a long time.
  6. 1536
    1536 20 November 2018 12: 38
    +1
    Maybe the American so-called media look more closely at the situation in Europe, close for a few minutes the favorite books of Brzezinski and Fukuyama?
    It would be much worse to fight with partisan detachments than to control the local regular army. Judging by the recent events in France, where the increase in gas prices resulted in riots, which ended in five hundred wounded, the people in Europe are not as harmless as they are imagined. This is not a drunken, smoky and obese flock of sheep, bleating about its exclusivity, but conscious people who are ready to unite in the struggle for their rights. And we should not discount Europe and wait for the weather near the Sea of ​​Azov.
    1. Mitya2424
      Mitya2424 20 November 2018 13: 00
      +1
      "This is not a drunken, smoked and overweight herd of sheep .....", "conscious people who are ready to unite in the fight for their rights ..."
      And now the points:
      - they are drunk (France, Czech Republic, Germany in the top 7 by per capita consumption);
      - they are smoky (marijuana is legalized in the UK, Germany, the Netherlands, Switzerland, Denmark, the Czech Republic, Belgium);
      - they have legalized same-sex marriage, euthanasia, partially pedophilia;
      - they are so conscientious that they are able to unite against the imaginary "Russian threat" in the ecstasy of sanctions, while completely rejecting the fact of the occupation of their own territory by the US military contingents;
      - I won’t say about the tacit consent of male Germans to fooling their German Frau from Africa and the Middle East on the eve of 2016 (1000 recorded attacks), maybe they didn’t see, they didn’t hear, they didn’t know ..... Something like this in short !!!!
      1. 1536
        1536 20 November 2018 13: 13
        0
        On the BMP and onward - to Berlin or to Prague? Beer to drink. Well, make friends with migrants from BV, and our whole Europe, do what you want ...
        Such moods remind me of something and someone. Ah, yes, our brothers, who are still not allowed into NATO capters, and they want it that way.
        Still, propaganda is a great thing and does its job.
        1. Mitya2424
          Mitya2424 20 November 2018 13: 27
          +1
          I didn’t understand anything at all, to be honest, from your answer !!!
          BMP, beer, BV, our Europe, brothers, NATO capters ........ maybe attached to that message?
          I am against the idealization of Europeans and tried, to the best of my strength, to illustrate this!
          1. 1536
            1536 20 November 2018 14: 03
            0
            BMP is an infantry fighting vehicle, BV is the Middle East. If, in your opinion, everything in Europe is as you wrote, then it's time to get into this BMP and go there on an "excursion", while drinking beer with the workers of the oppressed Middle East who find themselves in Europe. Further, dear. In my opinion, any Ukrainian serving in the army would like to miraculously end up in a NATO locker or at a NATO fuel and lubricants depot. If you do not understand anything, then do not fool yourself. Good luck!
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          1. 1536
            1536 20 November 2018 15: 27
            0
            I still remember the beer of Czechoslovakia. 1988 year, travel to Prague, Karlovy Vary. True, by train from the USSR.
  7. taiga2018
    taiga2018 20 November 2018 12: 43
    +2
    the "free" American media got the command of the fas ...
  8. Kerensky
    Kerensky 20 November 2018 12: 44
    0
    Media can laugh as much as they like. The US will not defend Europe, so Europeans will have to do something on their own. How much budget is enough. But is there enough time?
    1. SOF
      SOF 20 November 2018 12: 55
      +1
      Quote: Kerensky
      US will not protect Europe

      ..... osssspadya .... yes from whom to protect something? .....
      .... from bearded "refugees" with BV - if they weren't idiots, it's not too late to remember how it's done ...
      .....from U.S....??? ... why the hell did they surrender to us ... there is hardly a creature in Europe that, regardless of what it says, thinks, nevertheless, that we want to enslave them ....
      ..... from the USA .....? .... here the question is intimate laughing .... the states of Europe will not protect themselves - this is a fact ....
      .... although ..... maybe from the DPRK or Iran:)))) ....? ..
      1. Kerensky
        Kerensky 20 November 2018 13: 05
        0
        ..... osssspadya .... yes from whom to protect something? .....

        But we have forgotten that Europe is not a monolith, but consists of a number of states, whose interests do not always coincide. They just brought us a convenient term - united Europe, the EU (hereinafter Europe), and we use it. In my childhood, on the propaganda site, one of the posters read: "Tajik and Estonian are brothers forever!" That's it, dogma!
  9. parusnik
    parusnik 20 November 2018 12: 44
    +2
    These all European statements and the reaction of the US media did not freely remind:
    The uncle lives in the village,
    We are to him - well, like native children:
    Teaches us how to live in this world,
    Day and night does not give a descent.

    Aniskin! Well, you see, it's funny
    Being at your fingertips all the time -
    Uncle leave us alone
    Uncle, we grew up a long time!

    Uncle, a good man!
    Let it dawn before dawn
    Let us lie on the grass
    Let it be like a head!

    Aniskin! Well, you see, it's funny
    Being at your fingertips all the time -
    Uncle leave us alone
    Uncle, we grew up a long time!
  10. pvs512
    pvs512 20 November 2018 12: 56
    0
    The French have nuclear missiles "Ariane", aviation in the form of "Mirages", an aircraft carrier. The Germans have good Leopard tanks (they seem to be banned from missiles). They may well threaten some Namibia.
  11. rocket757
    rocket757 20 November 2018 13: 00
    0
    Striped in many ways are right, just do not say sho never, there is a final definition!
    They will not be able to quickly, even if they want, in the long run, everything is possible.
    Suddenly Joan of Arc will appear, Napoleon or who else!
    It happens!
  12. faiver
    faiver 20 November 2018 14: 32
    0
    Well, it would be extremely surprising if the American media would print the opposite opinion ...
  13. Serg 122
    Serg 122 20 November 2018 15: 34
    0
    The American media ridiculed the idea of ​​the President of France
    What else should they do? I would be very surprised if they supported this idea in every way
  14. MIG00001
    MIG00001 20 November 2018 15: 54
    0
    Well, if Russia, Germany and France create a pan-European army, then the United States does not wake up sweetly (the European Union needs one like Gorbachev to make this happen)
  15. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 20 November 2018 20: 14
    0
    "All these years, the US has defended the European Union, without America, Europe is nothing," Fox News said.
    It seems that Europe is inviting spite to make a specialist.