Finland may demand the return of land from Russia

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The Finnish youth party wants Finland to demand the return of lands transferred to the USSR following World War II in order to return to the 1939 borders of the year. This was announced at the autumn conference, according to Twitter one of the party members Henry Hautamäki.

Finland may demand the return of land from Russia




Judging by the map attached to the post, there are referring to the Petsamo region (the area around the village of Pechenga, Murmansk region), the eastern part of the Salla region (all these are Finnish names of Russian lands), also included in the Murmansk region, and some areas of Karelia near Lake Ladoga.

In October, 1939, the USSR began negotiations with Finland to change the border. The Soviet Union offered Finland territory in Eastern Karelia in exchange for land on the Karelian Isthmus. However, Finland refused, and negotiations were completed in November of 39. 30 November, the war began, known as “Winter”.

12 March 1940, as a result of the Moscow Treaty, the war stopped, and a number of islands, the Karelian Isthmus, the cities of Viipuri and Sortavala, the Salla region, part of the Rybachiy Peninsula and the Middle Peninsula were withdrawn to the Soviet Union.

In June, 1944, Finland withdrew from the Second World War and confirmed the results of the Moscow Treaty, losing also to the USSR Petsamo (now Pechenga) with the adjacent territory.
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  1. +53
    20 November 2018 10: 34
    and if you look a little earlier, maybe the Russian youth can also ask for something, kindergarten ... go play hockey, otherwise you’ve lost something
    lately
    1. +90
      20 November 2018 10: 37
      You can. All of Finland. To the borders of the Russian Empire.
      1. +39
        20 November 2018 11: 02
        Quote: 210ox
        You can. All of Finland. To the borders of the Russian Empire.

        the territory of Finland, where the sum and em tribes lived, has never been an independent state. In the period from the X to the beginning of the XIV century, it belonged to Novgorod, but in 1323 it was conquered by Sweden and for many centuries came under its control.
        In 1710, after the successful siege, the troops of Peter I captured the well-fortified city of Vyborg and thus secured access to the Baltic Sea. The next victory of the Russian troops, won four years later at the Battle of Napuse, made it possible to free almost the entire Grand Duchy of Finland from the Swedes.
        Under the Nistadt Treaty, which ended the Northern War and concluded in 1721, the territories of Estonia, Livonia, Ingria, as well as a number of islands of the Baltic Sea, went to Russia. In addition, Southwest Karelia and the second largest city in Finland, Vyborg, became part of the empire.
        The territory expanded in subsequent wars with the Swedes already under Elizabeth and Alexander.
        After joining Russia in 1808, the territory of Finland expanded somewhat due to the transfer under its jurisdiction of the Vyborg (former Finland) province.
        In 1917, the Bolsheviks, headed by V.I. Lenin, granted Finland independence.
        In 1918, Finland started a war with Russia and occupied the western part of Karelia up to the Sestra River, advanced to the Pechenga region, partially capturing the Rybachy and Sredny peninsulas.
        In 1921, they also invaded Russian borders, nurturing plans for the creation of "Great Finland."
        The Finns celebrate Independence Day annually on December 6, recalling how in 1917 the Bolshevik government gave them the opportunity to secede from Russia - Read more on FB.ru: http://fb.ru/article/315670/prisoedinenie-finlyandii-k-rossii- kratko
        1. +8
          20 November 2018 11: 16
          Quote: poquello
          the territory of Finland, where the sum and em tribes lived, has never been an independent state.

          and now too. The Swedes in their place of honor. The Embassy of Sweden is right in the port
          1. +7
            20 November 2018 13: 17
            Well, the Finns themselves are not muddying the water.
            Russia has normal relations with Finland. A good, not conflicting neighbor (unlike the same Baltic States).
            So from the side, someone brought a haze. The United States or England paid, no one else.
        2. +36
          20 November 2018 11: 23
          Here, correctly painted.
          It's bad that we hardly remember this. Every mongrel knows about the "winter war" in '39, thanks to the sobbing and groaning from every iron - ah, the Finns were wrongly offended. And who heard about what happened in the 18th and 21st years? We ourselves deprive ourselves of counterarguments.
          1. +2
            21 November 2018 12: 12
            Quote: Beringovsky
            ... Every mongrel knows about the "winter war" of 39, thanks to the sobbing and groaning from every iron - ah, the Finns were wrongly offended.

            Hrenase offended! So many of our soldiers died returning our land !!! And the Western Europeans armed the Finns to the teeth and watched our losses, bastards. But it was necessary to return these lands ... Otherwise, Leningrad could not stand it.
          2. 0
            21 November 2018 21: 36
            I arrived in August from Jagliajärvi, we don’t forget and go. Very nice, so somehow I’m not going to give anything to anyone there
      2. +21
        20 November 2018 11: 09
        With tongue removed. I just wanted to say that Russian youth in response may demand the return of the Grand Duchy of Finland.
      3. +6
        20 November 2018 11: 17
        For those lands paid in blood, let them cut off
      4. +7
        20 November 2018 11: 30
        It’s a pity that the Finnmark was not seized from Norway then. With Svalbard.
        1. 0
          21 November 2018 00: 52
          Correctly say Grumant.
      5. +16
        20 November 2018 13: 01
        Quote: 210ox
        You can. All of Finland. To the borders of the Russian Empire.

        I agree with you. But the Kremlin began a troubled fuss around the Kuril Islands. And immediately other interested parties of our territories became more active. There will be more.
      6. +1
        21 November 2018 14: 44
        Well, such a throw-in something often began to appear, then smoked something else
    2. +32
      20 November 2018 10: 39
      One more, not remembering stories, was drawn. Maybe remind the Finns where their independence came from? wink
      1. +8
        20 November 2018 10: 41
        You don’t even have to dig that deep, but only recall who gave the job to Finam and who ensured the payment of their reparations (there seems to have been an article on this subject).
        1. +9
          20 November 2018 11: 11
          Finland demanded the return of lands transferred to the USSR following the Second World War in order to return to the 1939 borders.

          A good reason to pull the Finns into NATO against us.
          We demand the return of all the lands transferred to Finland by the Council of People's Commissars in 1918.
          1. +1
            20 November 2018 16: 15
            Quote: figvam
            A good reason to pull the Finns into NATO against us.

            On the contrary! If such an idea is "pulled by the ears" of the official authorities, the path to NATO is closed due to unresolved territorial disputes.
            1. +2
              20 November 2018 16: 51
              Quote: Chichikov
              On the contrary!

              This is not an open armed conflict, many countries that have recently joined NATO have territorial claims, but this did not prevent them from joining the bloc.
      2. jjj
        +1
        20 November 2018 10: 42
        These are some very modest requirements. So they demand all the lands where the Finno-Ugric tribes once lived.
        1. +8
          20 November 2018 10: 47
          Quote: jjj
          So they demand all the lands where the Finno-Ugric tribes once lived.

          Great Finnish Empire? wassat
          1. +8
            20 November 2018 11: 00
            Well, yes, from Ugra to Saransk. There is not a single "small" people who would not dream of their own empire. Great Albania, Great Moldova, Great KvaZulu ... True, the Finns seemed to me a more pragmatic and real-minded people.
            1. +7
              20 November 2018 11: 07
              Quote: PalBor
              Finns seemed to me more pragmatic and really thinking people

              Well, we will not judge the whole nation by individual samples of any nationalists. Below colleague Faceless said well about the Finns. hi
            2. +2
              20 November 2018 11: 21
              They forgot about Great Serbia ...
              1. +5
                20 November 2018 11: 41
                You’re just tormenting everyone: the land of the Chukchi almost to the Amur, the kingdom of the Republic from sea to sea ...
                Only the Russians do not want a foreign land an inch.
                1. +5
                  20 November 2018 11: 51
                  Quote: PalBor
                  Only the Russians do not want a foreign land an inch.

                  But they will not give up theirs (if it is indeed Russian).
                  1. +1
                    21 November 2018 07: 47
                    Essential remark. And then give the Kuril Islands and Karelia to the fsakim ... how could it be said in a curator? Dust torment swallow!
            3. +17
              20 November 2018 11: 23
              Quote: PalBor
              Finns seemed to me more pragmatic and really thinking people.

              The Finns made sense - starting with Gorbachev, the USSR and Russia gave part of their waters to the United States and Norway, several islands to China, a piece of land in Georgia, now the island is on the turn to transfer to Japan ... After that, the pragmatic Finns decided what was worse about it? Why not try if it suddenly burns out?
              By the way, before these declarations of intent, during the times of the USSR they were already interested in transferring these territories at the government level. The day before they were allowed to use our inland water bodies in these territories for transportation, after which they dared ....
              In general, any one-sided satisfaction of someone’s Wishlist only leads to an increase in appetite and to new, more substantial claims.
            4. +1
              20 November 2018 12: 46
              Quote: PalBor
              Well, yes, from Ugra to Saransk.

              Few. You have not yet included Hungary, because they are also Ugric. In Ukrainian, Hungary is generally called - Ugorschina.
              1. +1
                20 November 2018 21: 52
                Then the Hungarians have to claim Altai, Northern China, a bunch of other lands, because they are the descendants of the Huns - the Hunn Gar, something like "royal people", or something. smile
            5. 0
              21 November 2018 14: 20
              maybe because they’re on the handbrake as usual, so they’ve caught up late?
        2. +2
          20 November 2018 10: 53
          Quote: jjj
          So they demand all the lands where the Finno-Ugric tribes once lived.

          They still live in our Volga region - the Mari and the Mordovians. I heard that every year they even hold some kind of conferences, meetings are held with the Finns.
          Great is Russia, more than a hundred nationalities live, if I remember correctly.
          1. -6
            20 November 2018 11: 52
            They still live in our Volga region - the Mari and the Mordovians.

            I beg your pardon, but in this quote I was bothered by "we" ... "live". Is it okay that they have always lived there and someone there, to them, the Mordovians and Mari, came to live too?
            With respect...
            1. +9
              20 November 2018 12: 36
              Quote: TampaRU
              but in this quote I was pissed off "with us" ... "live"

              And in vain. In Kamchatka, in Moscow, in the Crimea, etc. - that's all we have in Russia! I did not put the meaning of "among the Russians" into my words, but meant "here in Russia."
              1. -6
                20 November 2018 13: 03
                It will not be easy in Russia when Putin grows old. So far, only the country has kept it, so that it would not be disheveled
                1. +8
                  20 November 2018 13: 54
                  Quote: kiril1246
                  It will not be easy in Russia when Putin grows old. So far, only the country has kept it, so that it would not be disheveled

                  As they say, one famous person said, "There are no irreplaceable people",
                  so don’t create yourself an idol for worship ..
                  1. 0
                    21 November 2018 14: 21
                    there are only irreplaceable ....
              2. +5
                20 November 2018 13: 19
                It means that you simply made a wrong sentence, from which it follows, according to my logic .. that they still live, have not died out and have not assimilated ... I was hooked due to the fact that I am from the Mordovians, "Erzya" ... and this is my historical homeland, my people.
                I apologize for not understanding.
        3. 0
          20 November 2018 11: 54
          There is a proposal not to trifle, but to join Moscow in Finland, and then hold a referendum on accession to the Russian Federation
        4. +3
          20 November 2018 15: 15
          Quote: jjj
          So they demand all the lands where the Finno-Ugric tribes once lived.

          Yeah. I immediately remembered the story of I.D.Bugayenko of the perestroika times "APOCALYPSE RETURN,
          OR ABOUT THE AWAKENING OF NATIONAL SELF-CONSCIOUSNESS "(http://booksonline.com.ua/view.php?book=152194). Read - it delivers! laughing
          "... The Great Finnish Dream came true in the middle of the XNUMXnd century after the Fall, when the centuries-old tragedy of the Disunion of the Finns was ended. Great Suomi spread over vast expanses from Estonia to the Urals, uniting the Finnish peoples of the Baltic, Valdai, Volga and Kama regions into one family. the city of Moscow once again dawned on the blue-and-white banner. The Finnish people found an ancient relic, a place of repose for their ancestors and the source of great Finnish culture - the Ananyinsky burial ground near the ancient Finnish city of Yelabuga. Numerous pilgrims can now freely worship the majestic Temple of the Source, erected on the banks of the Kama ... "
      3. +8
        20 November 2018 10: 47
        The history of the Finns is remembered very well. After several difficult years of the last decade, they realize like no one else the need for good neighborly relations with the Russian Federation (border regions).

        Finns, in principle, are very difficult to stir up on a bold political move in any field, because I don’t think that Henry Hautamyaki’s tweet should be taken seriously. They have many more pressing problems: from rising communal prices (the situation in 2015, when for some items the price went up 30% at a time), to refugees who got tired of them (even though they are small, compared to the southern EU + countries from the whole EU Finland - Leader in ensuring order in this area).

        + Finns are not accepted to distract from real problems far-fetched and populist. Their mentality is complex and very different from Russian. Therefore, it does not seem to me that such a statement would entail any real consequences, expressed in concrete official steps of Finland.
      4. +11
        20 November 2018 10: 51
        Even Alexander Nevsky with his retinue walked around Finland as in his own garden. So, Finland is a native Russian land.
        1. +4
          20 November 2018 11: 21
          Quote: Bearded
          Even Alexander Nevsky with his retinue walked around Finland as in his own garden. So, Finland is a native Russian land.

          what about Poland?
          1. 0
            21 November 2018 14: 24
            Poland wasn’t then ..... Novgorod land was ... but Poland wasn’t ..
      5. +1
        20 November 2018 11: 30
        hi
        Are you waking a sleeping dog. They have long forgotten about it. And to dismiss that this is a new time, new realities in no way fit into their plans .. smile
        1. +3
          20 November 2018 12: 14
          No, they remember. Yesterday, Koreyba talked with Solovyov
    3. IGU
      +6
      20 November 2018 10: 44
      Quote: vanavate
      maybe Russian youth, too, what to demand

      The return move is necessary, the hand of an experienced puppeteer is felt here. The image of a country to which all neighbors have territorial claims is not the best prospect.
      Only struggle with puppets is a troublesome task. It’s good to kick the rope pulling.
      Kicking hard so that others are not discouraged.
      1. +1
        20 November 2018 11: 08
        The Finnish Youth Party wants Finland to demand the return of the lands transferred to the USSR following the Second World War in order to return to the 1939 borders.

        And these young people do not want to repeat Lenin's campaigns through the Gulf of Finland, in October? Or will the fate of Commissioner Trotsky suit them?
        How many longed for land redistribution? belay And hands instead of legs or there is a head in place ...
        Left for the base ... Lunch break ... Closed for 15 minutes ...
        How not to remember here:
    4. -1
      20 November 2018 11: 58
      they are right-- you need to move these provocateurs into the hands of Finland and USE THE REASON-to capture (once in 100 years it happens), then attach the whole - TO TORNEO
    5. 0
      20 November 2018 12: 01
      Quote: vanavate
      and if you look a little earlier, maybe the Russian youth can also ask for something, kindergarten ... go play hockey, otherwise you’ve lost something
      lately

      Russian coaches left (probably), so they passed)) Despite their presence in the TOP, they were always a "passing" team, before the appearance of coaches from the Russian Federation
      1. +1
        20 November 2018 12: 17
        hmm, the legs of Finnish hockey generally grow from the USSR, post-war good-neighborly relations, exchange of experience, etc. .. I don’t think that you are right about the coaches, and they weren’t very passable, especially when we trained with ours, and not to the village either to the city: CSKA this year enchanting how
        1. 0
          20 November 2018 12: 27
          I didn’t say that it’s very simpletons, but the statistics of games, the USSR, Finland ...)))
          And CSKA, and SKA - well done!
    6. 0
      20 November 2018 20: 28
      The Finnish Youth Party wants Finland to demand the return of the lands transferred to the USSR following the Second World War in order to return to the 1939 borders.

      Then we must first return to the past and not conclude an alliance with Hitler ...
  2. +2
    20 November 2018 10: 35
    And from a dead donkey ears !?
  3. +11
    20 November 2018 10: 35
    Stand in line. For Abe.
    1. +25
      20 November 2018 10: 36
      They got up. And soon others will stand up. Just set a precedent.
      1. +7
        20 November 2018 10: 41
        Quote: Henderson
        They got up. And soon others will stand up. Just set a precedent.

        Let the numbers be written on the hand. And then others will fit in without a queue. Good luck to them ... "Applicants" on the territory ...
        1. +6
          20 November 2018 12: 38
          Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
          Good luck to them ...

          Norway has already received the Arctic shelf from Russia, China received Damansky. After Japan, there will already be a turn to stand.
          1. -1
            20 November 2018 13: 56
            Quote: Henderson
            Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
            Good luck to them ...

            Norway has already received the Arctic shelf from Russia, China received Damansky. After Japan, there will already be a turn to stand.

            Crimea happened to us. Overlays all Damansky at once, etc.
            1. -1
              20 November 2018 16: 44
              Crimea in this situation can again go away. And especially he has nothing to block. So far, only losses from him.
              1. +2
                20 November 2018 16: 46
                Quote: Henderson
                Crimea in this situation can again go away. And especially he has nothing to block. So far, only losses from him.

                It's funny about the losses and the new excommunication. Keep on laughing.
                1. 0
                  20 November 2018 17: 39
                  When you look at the volume of expenses for it, it will not be quite funny. The excess of expenses over income is called loss.
                  Where is the profit?
                  1. +1
                    20 November 2018 17: 42
                    Quote: Henderson
                    When you look at the volume of expenses for it, it will not be quite funny.
                    Where is the profit?

                    We drove ... Do not rest. Our Crimea forever. Where is the profit ?! We close the whole sky right up to the Bosphorus. Happiness is not in profit. Let's finish. You are with yours, me too.
                    1. +2
                      21 November 2018 01: 04
                      Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
                      Our Crimea forever.

                      one month of Kiselev’s work in the opposite direction, and you will begin to declare the exact opposite. Well, soon you will see how Russian TV works on the Kuril Islands.
                      Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
                      We close the whole sky right up to the Bosphorus.

                      but NATO fleets calmly continue to plow the Black Sea.
                      Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
                      Happiness is not in profit.

                      and in taxes on sausage and the abolition of pensions
                  2. 0
                    22 November 2018 10: 34
                    what should profit come from? from restoring infrastructure on the peninsula? ... funny ..
      2. IGU
        0
        20 November 2018 10: 46
        This is what they seek.
        Quote: Henderson
        They got up. And soon others will stand up. Just set a precedent.
    2. -5
      20 November 2018 10: 39
      Japan is not a state, either, an experiment in creating a chorobot. By the way, the experiment was a success, they even have a forest, where tired robots voluntarily come to die.
  4. +2
    20 November 2018 10: 37
    May require land and get Lyuli
  5. BAI
    +2
    20 November 2018 10: 37
    The Finnish Youth Party wants Finland to demand the return of the lands transferred to Russia following the Second World War in order to return to the 1939 borders.

    If we give the islands back, the process will go. There are still tribaltes in line.
    1. +7
      20 November 2018 12: 40
      Quote: BAI
      The Finnish Youth Party wants Finland to demand the return of the lands transferred to Russia following the Second World War in order to return to the 1939 borders.

      If we give the islands back, the process will go. There are still tribaltes in line.

      Is it only the Balts? Yes, there all the neighbors will present everything at once. Naturally, with historical grounds, who is what nation and what ancient empire is the heir. And they will be the last ... if they don't, when the territory sale goes. Well, yes, first it will be in their media, and then it will move to the official agenda. By the way, about the media. We are already in full swing, well, so far only in relation to the islands (source opentown.org): "Why Putin can give the Japanese two islands? Peaceful, independent and strategically friendly Japan is worth Shikotan and Habomai, let's put it bluntly." Pyotr Akopov. "
      If anyone says this cannot happen, then here is the mechanism from the publicist Olga Tukhanina, by the way, until recently, a supporter of Mr. Putin, but something began to change in it:

      "Five stages of loyal acceptance of the politically inevitable in Russia.

      1. This will never happen, calm down. These are just liberals’s wishes.

      2. Why are you spreading rumors? A refutation has already been issued.

      3. Let's see what the president says. The last word is his.

      4. Stop whining. There is nothing wrong.

      5. It was high time to do so. "

      And the authorities themselves, in particular Mr. Peskov, clearly demonstrate the second stage:
      "During these days, we have seen a very large number of different arguments, political speculations that, they say, there is already some kind of separate deal on the transfer of islands and so on. This is not so. And this cannot be so," said Dmitry Peskov, explaining that the President and Prime Minister of Japan took the 1956 Soviet-Japanese declaration as a basis. "
      But after all, it should be clear that all of today's value for Japan in this document is that this declaration provided for the transfer of TWO islands. The rest, the rest will try to get later. And how they will try, if they get two at first, he knows the appetite when he arrives.
      Well, Peskov's words also "inspire": "Here, for the sake of justice, we need to remember that, nevertheless, despite all the difficulties of the topic of a peace treaty with Japan, this issue can be resolved. experience in negotiations on territorial issues with China ..."

      PS (source agonia-ru.com): over 15 years of Putin’s rule, only according to official data, China has already been transferred the territory to 337 square kilometers
      having received from Russia by 2004, a large chunk of the territory, including the infamous Damansky Island, where 58 Soviet border guards were killed, the Chinese side stated that border relations between Russia and China settled. However, already in 2012, China again, put forward a claim to Russia, this time in Altai.
  6. -7
    20 November 2018 10: 38
    Finland is not a state to the fullest. The word does not possess sovereignty at all. The population in the territory. You can not listen to them.
  7. +4
    20 November 2018 10: 38
    Well, this generation of brainwashed zombies, of course, may require. But who will give them that? Will the Japanese masturbate to the islands at the border, that’s all the prospects of these requirements.
  8. +2
    20 November 2018 10: 41
    ... and Russia - the return of lands lost as a result of the First World War wassat Incidentally, these lands were generally bought by Russia stupidly
    1. +1
      20 November 2018 11: 19
      Quote: Jerk
      and Russia - the return of lands lost following the results of the First World By the way, these lands were bought by Russia in general stupidly

      Cool, yes, we must probably demand the restoration of the borders of the Russian Empire. True, the government of the Bolsheviks put on all the national outskirts of independence - that’s what we say.
  9. +5
    20 November 2018 10: 44
    Well, let them come to us and try to pick up. I have a dog barking right next to me because of the fence - it also probably requires something.
  10. -3
    20 November 2018 10: 45
    It’s not even interesting what Lavrushka or Vasilisa Mikulishna would mumble about, like, “Guys, let's live together.” They only trade resources and territories, they are not capable of more.
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                1. +4
                  20 November 2018 11: 34
                  Quote: Ivan RB

                  Yes, you are just rude boor.

                  Ivan from an unknown country who writes-
                  Quote: Ivan RB
                  Lavrushka or Vasilisa Mikulishna

                  -on the policies of Russia in this tone, very educated.
                  1. -5
                    20 November 2018 11: 48
                    I express my opinion without imposing it on others ... If you don't like it - don't read, don't look, don't answer. I did not invite you to discuss my comments ... If the "politics of Russia" are so dear - hang portraits on the wall and pray for your health, only I do not have to report this in such an intrusive manner.
                    1. -2
                      20 November 2018 11: 50
                      Quote: Ivan RB

                      I express my opinion

                      Listen, lover of the Red Army, I'm talking about your beloved Stalin and Lenin, I will also write, will you like it?
                      1. 0
                        20 November 2018 11: 53
                        And what do YOU ​​have against the Red Army, and against Lenin and Stalin?
                      2. -2
                        20 November 2018 11: 58
                        Quote: Ivan RB
                        And what do YOU ​​have against the Red Army, and against Lenin and Stalin?


                        Ivan RB (Red Army fighter) November 18 2018 21: 41
                        +3
                        Peskov: It is impossible to conclude separate deals on Kuriles
                        Well, Crimea was lucky, of course, - more, Vovan decided to have a good go at it, not very materially successful for the rest, dear Russians


                        Dzhugashvillik decided to ride on a warrior with Finns, the truth is not very successful.
                        And so, I express my opinion, and if you like them, you can hang them on the wall and pray on them, at least every day.
                      3. -2
                        20 November 2018 12: 07
                        The FSB colonel began to delve into the archives ... Well, the flag is in your hands - the lover of Lavrushka and Vasilisa Mikulishny ...
                      4. 0
                        20 November 2018 17: 33
                        So you write about them just as constantly, but we do not expect another from the Bulkhorst and neovlasovtsa.
                  2. -1
                    20 November 2018 11: 51
                    About "Ivan from an Unknown Country" - another portion of rudeness, if you decided to earn plus signs on me, then just a troll is you and yourself.
                    1. -2
                      20 November 2018 11: 52
                      Quote: Ivan RB

                      About "Ivan from an unknown country

                      So what country are you from? I'm from Russia
                      1. 0
                        20 November 2018 12: 01
                        This is your country, and I have the Power - the USSR.
                      2. -1
                        20 November 2018 12: 05
                        Quote: Ivan RB

                        This is your country

                        My country is Russia and it is and will be !!!
                        Quote: Ivan RB
                        and I have the Power - the USSR.

                        Well, where is your power?
                      3. -2
                        20 November 2018 12: 20
                        "My country is Russia and it is and will be !!!" - Commendable, then what? "Well, where is your state?" - in my heart and the hearts of millions who understand what is happening and do not break the fifth point for the "people's" power.
  11. +8
    20 November 2018 10: 48
    Well, if the Russian Federation makes concessions to Japan, then it can be assumed that there will be a lot of people from Russia who want to have some land)) And this is quite natural: because they are "giving away". You have to be a fool not to take advantage of the moment.
    Finnish Wishlist - a call for our "negotiators" in the Kuril Islands.
    1. +6
      20 November 2018 12: 39
      Siberian barber: Finnish Wishlist - a bell ...
      There are not only and not just Wishlist. Finnish NGOs and individual figures do their best to treat Karelian schoolchildren and students and, apparently, sensed that there is a certain result - such that it is already possible to open your mouth and demand something. And what are the state security bodies doing there? ((
  12. +1
    20 November 2018 10: 49
    I believe that the RETURN TO ALASKA requirement and California will affect the puppeteer?
    1. +3
      20 November 2018 10: 54
      Who will demand ??))
      1. 0
        20 November 2018 11: 14
        Quote: The Siberian Barber

        Who will demand ??))

        Member of a party, some Henry Hutamaki
        Quote: The Siberian Barber
        Finnish Wishlist - a call for our "negotiators" in the Kuril Islands.

        Does Finland demand land from Russia? Oh really
        1. +2
          20 November 2018 11: 27
          Officially, not yet) Tell me, what topic are we discussing ??))
          1. 0
            20 November 2018 11: 32
            Quote: The Siberian Barber

            Officially, not yet)

            This is what we must proceed from.
            Quote: The Siberian Barber
            Tell me what topic are we discussing ??))

            Some kind of clown whose surname and name I hear for the first time that there blundered there. I will say more, even Google and Yandex do not know this deer.
            1. +6
              20 November 2018 11: 39
              But doesn’t it occur to you that this scarecrow, about which we don’t know today, on this wave, can it ever come to power? If we create another precedent, with the Kuril Islands, we give ground .. Our Foreign Ministry has no other business ??))
              1. +1
                20 November 2018 11: 40
                Quote: The Siberian Barber

                But doesn’t it occur to you that this scarecrow, about which we don’t know today, on this wave, can it ever come to power?

                No it does not come, the Finns are not so dumb.
                And about the smokers, I’ll write to you like this - Do not wait !!!
                And as for the Foreign Ministry, Zakharova, there is probably nothing to do if they respond to the words of each imbecile.
                Who is he, tell me ??????????????
                1. 0
                  20 November 2018 11: 52
                  I fully support your "will not wait!", But the fuss around the Kuril Islands has intensified, you must agree! Keeping in mind the recent past (Damansky, sea), and proceeding from the official rhetoric of both sides, one can draw some conclusions, right? )))
                  I did not say about the reaction of our Foreign Ministry, NOW! I talked about the probability of events, in a certain case!
                  Please read the posts carefully) hi
                  1. -1
                    20 November 2018 12: 01
                    Quote: The Siberian Barber
                    but the fuss around the Kuril Islands has intensified, agree!

                    This happens all the time, from time to time, before each meeting between Putin and the next Japanese kamikaze (prime minister)
                    Quote: The Siberian Barber
                    Daman, sea), and based on the official rhetoric of both sides, we can draw some conclusions, right? )))

                    With Norway everything was complicated there, Damansky himself I do not understand, they gave the fuck.
                    But to give the smokers means to reconsider the results of the second world war.
                    1. 0
                      20 November 2018 12: 14
                      "Damansky I don't understand myself, they gave the heck."


                      You see !!!
                      Neither you, nor I can explain this (The authorities also do not particularly comment ...
                      Well, where does the confidence that this does not happen again come from ??? I doubt that you will unconditionally trust the person who deceived you!
                      I believe that 99,9% of those present here would not want a repetition of the story with Damansky. From there and, often, excited, and sometimes harsh statements.
                      From shouts of "fuck them!" calmness is not added. And the forum will "die".
                      And so, VO lost TU charm, which was ..
                      1. -1
                        20 November 2018 13: 08
                        Quote: The Siberian Barber
                        I doubt that you will unconditionally trust the person who deceived you!

                        In the matter of smoking I believe.
                      2. 0
                        20 November 2018 13: 40
                        And I WANT to believe it, but it doesn’t work out. God grant that my fears are not confirmed!
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  14. +1
    20 November 2018 10: 54
    return to the borders of 1939

    Better to the borders until 1917
  15. +5
    20 November 2018 10: 54
    The number of gradual forgetfulness of the results of World War II is growing more and more and the impudence of the requirements of revising the borders is increasing!
    Absolutely shame lost .......
  16. +4
    20 November 2018 10: 55
    And why to return specifically to the 1939 borders, it may be better to the 1917 "borders".
  17. +4
    20 November 2018 10: 55
    Japanese-Sino-Norwegian examples are contagious.
  18. HAM
    +3
    20 November 2018 10: 55
    As they say, not Nywith darkness, something sharply all the mongrels in the okrug of our land wanted!
    The most interesting thing in this story is that if Russia sticks at them, then a howl about an aggressive Russia will be heard immediately !! Although such a howl is already heard.
    Someone is stubbornly preparing the electorate for war. And someone, we know .....
    1. +13
      20 November 2018 11: 03
      The sadness lies in the fact that for some reason, the Russian Federation does not say "hush!" this whole codele ((
      Nobody canceled the law of nature: on a weakening lion, a pack of hyenas is going.
      They probably perceive us like that, since they often began to hear this.
    2. +5
      20 November 2018 11: 12
      Maybe sometimes it’s necessary to show the animal grin to stop the creeps towards Russia?
      1. +2
        20 November 2018 12: 40
        To show a grin, you need teeth. And they have long decayed.
        1. +1
          20 November 2018 12: 47
          If the teeth rotted, then they would already gobble up, and so on, while only yapping from a safe distance.
          1. +1
            20 November 2018 17: 39
            In Russia, the titanium teeth inherited from the USSR do not decay, but the soul of individuals of the Russian oligarchy is really rotten.
  19. +1
    20 November 2018 10: 56
    Hot Finnish guys need to show this more often. lol

  20. +1
    20 November 2018 10: 57
    it would be better if they were silent in a rag, otherwise we will return to the borders of 1914 ...
  21. Ham
    +6
    20 November 2018 10: 58
    on what grounds should Russia return the lands it received as a result of 2 wars won? both times - the USSR was a defending side ...
    maybe it's time for the "Finnish partners" to recall participation in the Hitlerite coalition and the Finnish concentration camps?
  22. +4
    20 November 2018 11: 07
    It seems that Finnish youth is warming some well. This is especially noticeable after talking about the possibility of Finland joining NATO and recent exercises.
    1. +8
      20 November 2018 11: 28
      zotovp .....Finish youth seem to be warming some well. This is especially noticeable after talking about the possibility of Finland joining NATO and recent exercises.

      Yeah. And not only Finnish. The youth of the whole West, 2-3 generations, are brought up on
      "Western model of history". - The Second World War was unleashed by the USSR, and the USA defeated fascism in Europe. The generation under Reagan was brought up on the slogan - "The USSR is the aggressor country." The last generation is being raised on Russophobia under the slogan "Russia is the aggressor". The Cold War did not end, it changes color, but not its goals.
    2. +2
      20 November 2018 12: 39
      It came to the Finns smoke Maidan tires ....
  23. 0
    20 November 2018 11: 08
    Answer here
    "Opinion: Everyone in Finland should spend ten weeks in a mental hospital"
    https://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/novosti/mnenie_kazhdomu_zhitelyu_finlyandii_sleduet_provesti_desyat_nedel_v_psikhbolnitse/10511194
  24. +1
    20 November 2018 11: 23
    The Finnish Youth Party wants Finland to demand the return of lands transferred to the USSR following the Second World War

    We demand the return of Courland! Business then.
  25. 0
    20 November 2018 11: 37
    The Finnish Youth Party wants Finland to demand the return of the lands transferred to the USSR following the Second World War in order to return to the 1939 borders.

    Do we have a party that can demand the territory that was left to Russia under an agreement with Sweden in the 19th century? Then there was no Finland at all.
  26. +4
    20 November 2018 12: 07
    Yes, Finnish youth know what they want. Unfortunately, one gets the impression that our young people, for the most part, are imbued with the ideas of "new thinking", without wanting to. Well, if you want to live in service, this desire can hardly be defeated by words and exhortations alone. An example is Ukraine.
  27. +1
    20 November 2018 12: 11
    Someone the Finns rubbed their brains and promised help. They themselves would not do that. Who is pleased when they are sent in one, well-known direction, moreover, not giving time for fees, and most likely it will be.
  28. +6
    20 November 2018 12: 15
    This went on a chain reaction, after the most infamous king raised the topic of the Kuril Islands with Abe.
    Now all and sundry, I will bring claims to Russia.
    This is the horror of what they are doing, the theme of the islands is constantly being raised, for the sake of peace with the Japanese, the anti-people reforms are being launched, raising the retirement age, and the tax-paying beggars come up every month with taxes. Candean is full.
  29. +1
    20 November 2018 12: 20
    It is necessary to offer the Chukhites to return the territory of Finland to Russia - such as playing 100 years and waking up!
  30. +5
    20 November 2018 12: 23
    Yes, no problem: just first return those territories that were part of Russia until 1918. It can be sharper - for the mass killings of Russians in the same year.
  31. 0
    20 November 2018 12: 42
    We can give them a couple of YaB with self-delivery on ballistic or winged carriers
  32. +2
    20 November 2018 12: 53
    And These Finnish patriots against Sweden have no territorial claims? Let dig into history.
  33. +1
    20 November 2018 12: 58
    And our “youth party” of Russia for the return of all the lands that were part of the Russian empire in 1917. Fantasy so fantasize)))))
  34. 0
    20 November 2018 12: 59
    But they don’t want to go to the borders of 1913? And then - ...
  35. +1
    20 November 2018 13: 05
    what nonsense in the west, on the wave of Russophobia, will not blurt out to "thunder" all over the planet? No. negative
  36. +2
    20 November 2018 13: 08
    Quote: gig334
    This went on a chain reaction, after the most infamous king raised the topic of the Kuril Islands with Abe.
    Now all and sundry, I will bring claims to Russia.
    This is the horror of what they are doing, the theme of the islands is constantly being raised, for the sake of peace with the Japanese, the anti-people reforms are being launched, raising the retirement age, and the tax-paying beggars come up every month with taxes. Candean is full.

    Yes
  37. 0
    20 November 2018 14: 58
    The Finnish Youth Party wants Finland to demand the return of the lands transferred to the USSR following the Second World War in order to return to the 1939 borders.

    How about a refund for the same price? Ready to fight?
  38. +1
    20 November 2018 15: 19
    Oh, it started. Chain reaction after capitulation Japan. Who is next??????
    We are waiting!
  39. -1
    20 November 2018 15: 39
    and they don’t want to go back to the Russian Empire?))
  40. +6
    20 November 2018 15: 41
    Putin stupid people by trading in Russian territory and water area launched a border review following the results of World War II, and this is only the beginning
  41. +1
    20 November 2018 16: 39
    Something the Finnish guys fell out of their mind ... Forgot where they got independence. May demand the return of the province to the composition? (since it was their desire to move the borders back)
  42. +1
    20 November 2018 16: 57
    I will add to the previous comments: "to demand the return of the Grand Duchy of Finland to Russia" with the simultaneous reunification of kindred peoples - to resettle the Finns to their historical homeland in the Republic of Mordovia (it is possible with property and even factories).
    There they will be away from the NATO stupidities and American animators laughing
  43. +2
    20 November 2018 17: 21
    Well, the Chukhonts wanted to revise the results of WWII. And what, the Japanese roll, and they are worse? Then the other "offended" will pull themselves up to the heap, for the generosity of the Russian oligarchy in the distribution of the lands left to us by our ancestors is limitless.
  44. +2
    20 November 2018 18: 02
    Yes, our country and the President today have to fight off everyone. Ukrainians demand to give the Crimea, the DNI, the LC. Estonians demand part of the Pskov region. The Japanese demand to give the Kuril Islands. And in the North there are so many demands that the head goes around.
    But the fascist Mannerheim dreamed of a great Finland, he wanted to quickly arrive in Arkhangelsk.
    These are the affairs of two subhuman people who created everything to make Russian more difficult.
  45. +4
    20 November 2018 18: 32
    The Japanese mongrel wasn’t kicked well with the Kuril Islands, now the whole pack will be tightened.
  46. LIP
    +1
    20 November 2018 18: 44
    And why are they asking for only a part of the territories? They would ask immediately to the Urals. Anyway, they’ll get ears from a dead donkey ...
  47. 0
    20 November 2018 19: 23
    Finland may require - within the borders I am interested in which state and even a year?
  48. 0
    20 November 2018 20: 02
    The global redivision begins. Return the Polish lands to the Germans, but to us Alaska.
  49. +2
    20 November 2018 21: 48
    Yeah, a sore subject for the Finns. So no one will tell you openly, but they will drink a little and this topic will appear in conversations once in a while. The Finns seriously root for this topic.
    1. 0
      21 November 2018 14: 55
      Yes, let them get sick, if only not for diarrhea. And then all the beauties of Karelia will be dirtied.
  50. 0
    21 November 2018 01: 56
    Ofigeli quite suomi. They don’t remember something about how they attacked Russia twice when it was weak.
  51. +1
    21 November 2018 09: 48
    There was no need to attack the USSR in 1941. , together with Hitler, let them say thank you for not taking away half of Finland or not all of it! Our kindness has always ruined us: in 1917, kind Lenin gave them independence, and in 1945, kind Stalin forgave them everything, but it seems in vain!
  52. 0
    21 November 2018 14: 53
    Today I talked with young people, and they all unanimously spoke in favor of the annulment of the Decree on the Independence of Finland of 1917, and the return of its territory to the jurisdiction of Russia. Young, hot, but they’re right - tomboys!
  53. 0
    21 November 2018 15: 31
    And I can demand that Donald Trump give me 1 million. dollars)
  54. 0
    21 November 2018 15: 46
    Life is boring for hot Finnish guys. I want it hot
    Well, let them come to Russia and voice their wishes!
    If the Finns have even started to say, then I think the economy and defense industry need to be dealt with more closely. It is clear that no one wants to fight, but wars happen in strange ways.
  55. 0
    21 November 2018 16: 07
    he can demand..., let him demand, and back up his demands with significant gifts...
  56. 0
    21 November 2018 16: 51
    Fin. Ostap Bender also answered the youths - “The ears are from a dead donkey.” wassat
  57. 0
    21 November 2018 17: 52
    The Finnish Youth Party wants Finland to demand the return of the lands transferred to the USSR following the Second World War in order to return to the 1939 borders.
    Did anyone doubt that the transfer of even a piece of land, which is Father Damansky, and the constant exaggeration of the topic of the Kuril Islands would not be continued in other countries? Naturally logical, I wanted to say - the result, but no - it is still a process, and it still tends to develop and continue... .sad
  58. 0
    21 November 2018 17: 55
    Quote: Shurik70
    Well, the Finns themselves are not muddying the water.
    Russia has normal relations with Finland. A good, not conflicting neighbor (unlike the same Baltic States).
    So from the side, someone brought a haze. The United States or England paid, no one else.

    You watch less official news. lol
  59. 0
    21 November 2018 20: 55
    If they make territorial claims, it is necessary to refuse recognition of Finnish independence.
  60. +1
    21 November 2018 21: 21
    The Finns, Adolf Aloizovich Hitler's allies in the Second World War, now need to sit very straight on their Finnish butts and try not to fart again, the Russian Foreign Ministry has every reason to stop this fetid fart and stench.