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American base in Poland will be, but in a different form

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The United States will not place the Fort Trump military base in Poland in the form proposed by the Polish government, the Polish edition of Onet reports, citing its sources.


American base in Poland will be, but in a different form


According to the newspaper, the American side is not averse to increasing its presence in Poland, but only in a different form, and Poland is ready to abandon the original concept of the Fort Trump military base. The issue of increasing US forces in Poland has already been resolved in a positive way, they added in the publication, but taking into account certain conditions put forward by the Americans.

According to the portal, the United States is demanding that Poland place American weapons and ammunition depots in the country, as well as elements of a command and intelligence structure. It is this concept that Warsaw and Washington are currently discussing, and the idea of ​​placing a permanent military base on Polish territory “has practically no chance of implementation,” although some compromises are possible.

It is noted that the Minister of National Defense of Poland, Mariusz Blaszczak, specially visited the issue of locating the US military base on Polish territory. He discussed this issue not only with the head of the Pentagon, James Mattis, but also addressed the US senators and congressmen, trying to convince them of the advisability of deploying the American army in Poland on a permanent basis.
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  1. Logall
    Logall 16 November 2018 14: 47
    +12
    The more staff there are gadgets, the more vigorous a rocket flying there! Well and wider crater, respectively ...
    Does anyone there understand that?
    1. cost
      cost 16 November 2018 14: 50
      +7
      yes, apparently now not only birch trees, but also poplars will be against Poland
      1. Machito
        Machito 16 November 2018 14: 53
        +6
        Against Poland, even Pinocchio. laughing
        1. cost
          cost 16 November 2018 15: 05
          +3
          Bearded man (bearded man): Against Poland, even Pinocchio

          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 16 November 2018 15: 35
            +6
            It is noted that with the issue of deploying an American military base on Polish territory, the United States specially visited Polish Minister of National Defense Mariusz Blaszczak. He discussed this issue not only with the head of the Pentagon, James Mattis, but also spoke to senators and congressmen of the United States, trying to convince them of the advisability of deploying the American army in Poland on an ongoing basis.

            The Minister of National Defense of Poland, Mariusz Blaszczak, is not just a Pole, but a "pure American".
            Let us recall the story - how in 1939 the whole militant government of Poland for 2 weeks in full force crashed into England from the troops invading Poland in Nazi Germany!
            And now, in front of TMV, apparently, it will be the same.
            1. bayard
              bayard 17 November 2018 05: 10
              +1
              Donetsk.
              Now they may not be in time.
        2. Thunderbolt
          Thunderbolt 16 November 2018 15: 07
          0
          Quote: Logall
          The more staff there are gadgets, the more vigorous a rocket flying there! Well and wider crater, respectively ...

          Logall! You argue as if only Russia has nuclear weapons, and NATO, as the last tsutsik, will have a steep blow and .... may express concern.
          However, this is not so at all.
          1.) We have parity with NATO, therefore, in order to under-escalate the struggle in a specific theater, groups armed with conventional ammunition should enter into action. Until these funds are exhausted, no one is going to bomb the enemy. /// the question of the threshold is the line of red danger ///, but judging by NATO tactics, they do not attack the enemy with centralized control bodies. So, first they want a civil-interethnic conflict or a series of such hotbeds will suddenly inflate, and then they will try to enter the sacred land of Kaliningrad with their Polish "Leopards". after the destabilization of our internal situation, we should expect uprisings in the rear, tactical landings and the advance of mechanized groups.
          1. Logall
            Logall 16 November 2018 15: 19
            +3
            Comrade Stormbreaker, I didn’t speak about nuclear missiles ... You read that this way. Violent - powerful, punchy, etc. Ordinary ones also do not badly plump together with stocks that will be stored in these warehouses. And there may already be nuclear supplies, which will expand the funnel at times, and the "little boy" will spoil the ecology. But these are little things ...
            1. hydrox
              hydrox 16 November 2018 19: 01
              +1
              Quote: Logall
              will expand the funnel at times,

              Nuclear weapons do not detonate ...
              1. sabakina
                sabakina 16 November 2018 20: 36
                0
                Quote: hydrox
                Nuclear weapons do not detonate ...
                Really personally experimented? belay
                1. dvina71
                  dvina71 16 November 2018 21: 09
                  0
                  Quote: sabakina
                  Really personally experimented?

                  the Americans spent several times .., lost ammunition at high altitude .. The energy of a bomb meeting with the ground is approximately equal to the explosion of centuries ..
                2. hydrox
                  hydrox 23 November 2018 20: 58
                  0
                  No, just a physicist in his main specialty ...
        3. SSR
          SSR 16 November 2018 15: 21
          0
          Quote: Bearded
          Against Poland, even Pinocchio. laughing

          Quote: Bearded
          Against Poland, even Pinocchio. laughing

          Scha Henderson will come and say - this is against Iran, Minsk and Kaliningrad but not against Russia. wassat
          1. hydrox
            hydrox 16 November 2018 19: 03
            0
            Quote: SSR
            Scha Henderson will come and say - this is against Iran, Minsk and Kaliningrad but not against Russia.

            ... the answer will be only a mournful whistle of wind in the desert ...
      2. Fedor egoist
        Fedor egoist 16 November 2018 14: 55
        0
        spoke to US senators and congressmen, trying to convince them of the advisability of the American army in Poland on an ongoing basis

        They need a human shield, just in case. And not only from Russia. Germany periodically glances in the direction of Western Poland, keeping in mind that these areas were not especially fought by the Poles following the Second World War were cut off and donated.
    2. Rostislav
      Rostislav 16 November 2018 14: 58
      +1
      Those who understand this are hoping to sit out in the bunker. Naive.
    3. helmi8
      helmi8 16 November 2018 16: 45
      0
      Quote: Logall
      Does anyone there understand that?

      Here you need to understand this:
      The United States requires Poland to deploy American weapons and ammunition depots in the country, as well as elements of a command and intelligence structure.

      Those. Americans will conduct intelligence and command the Poles. They themselves will not be substituted.
  2. Machito
    Machito 16 November 2018 14: 47
    +2
    Poland will bend to any desired position in front of the United States.
    1. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 16 November 2018 14: 53
      +4
      Moreover, any decision by the United States on the base will be interpreted by the Poles as a victory over Russia. Well, the standard screams in the style of "Mister appointed me his beloved wife !!!" ...
      1. pvv113
        pvv113 16 November 2018 15: 15
        +3
        We can offer the Poles to place our missile and aviation training ranges on their territory wink
      2. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 16 November 2018 15: 18
        0
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        Moreover, any decision by the United States on the base will be interpreted by the Poles as a victory over Russia. Well, the standard screams in the style of "Mister appointed me his beloved wife !!!" ...

        It’s just that Americans found it more profitable to concentrate stocks of equipment and supplies in eastern Poland than to establish a permanent presence base at this intermediate point. For them, it’s now more important to arrange supply chains, expand NATO’s overpass to the east. And if the crews arriving from Texas meet their tanks only in Poland, this is a plus for the maneuver of troops, because reduces the time of rapprochement with the enemy.
        P.S. And yet, you are an intelligent person, a master of the order and must understand perfectly well that there is no desire of Poland, there is a necessary need voiced by them for Washington. What the Pentagon whispers to them, then the Wenceslas want.
  3. Altona
    Altona 16 November 2018 14: 48
    +3
    Warehouses and computers for intelligence are cheaper than a couple of thousand gluttonous American ji-ai. As I understand it.
    1. Machito
      Machito 16 November 2018 14: 54
      +1
      It’s necessary to store the Beginner somewhere.
  4. svp67
    svp67 16 November 2018 14: 48
    +3
    According to the portal, the United States requires Poland to deploy American arms and ammunition depots in the country, as well as elements of the command and intelligence structure.
    That's when it is worth "crying" about the closure of the intelligence center and the base in Cuba. GDP hurried, hurried ..
    1. Machito
      Machito 16 November 2018 14: 56
      0
      Has the GDP already reported to you about negotiations with the Cuban leader?
      Can share secrets with us?
      1. svp67
        svp67 16 November 2018 14: 58
        +3
        Quote: Bearded
        Has the GDP already reported to you about negotiations with the Cuban leader?
        Can share secrets with us?

        Not. I am about the past. The fact that they broke.
        And what Cuba and I will have now, God alone knows. Now in Cuba, China’s positions are strong, very strong, and whether it will let us go there, time will tell.
  5. Sergey39
    Sergey39 16 November 2018 14: 49
    +2
    Do not want to use the services of the Soviet Army - now feed the American!
    1. Machito
      Machito 16 November 2018 14: 56
      +1
      Relax and enjoy.
  6. figwam
    figwam 16 November 2018 14: 49
    +1
    According to the portal, the United States requires Poland to deploy American arms and ammunition depots in the country, as well as elements of the command and intelligence structure.

    From this we can conclude that Polish soldiers will die, and the Americans will lead.
    1. white.eagle
      white.eagle 16 November 2018 15: 07
      -2
      No one will die. Russians are not stupid. They will not want to attack a country that has rockets and ammunition. These American missiles and ammunition (US depots) are compatible with Polish artillery and aviation - NATO Standard
  7. The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 16 November 2018 14: 52
    +2
    "further - deeper, be patient"
  8. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 16 November 2018 15: 08
    +1
    The United States requires Poland to stay in the country US stockpiles of weapons and ammunition, as well as elements of the structure of command and intelligence
    Intelligence signs of preparation for hostilities on the face. Warehouses, structural elements are getting closer to the Russian border. To the north-east of the Baltic, which is also being pumped up with equipment, to the south-east of Ukraine, which is just waiting for NATO to fully settle on their territory. Only Belarus ahead is Russia’s CSTO ally.
  9. JonnyT
    JonnyT 16 November 2018 15: 09
    0
    some kind of partnership. here are the warehouses for you. here are the radars. but the Americans will not be on them - only the Poles will die when defending US interests
  10. sir_obs
    sir_obs 16 November 2018 15: 14
    0
    the task is to put a complex of brothels near the base and that’s all, budget revenues will flood the river.
  11. Igor Borisov_2
    Igor Borisov_2 16 November 2018 15: 31
    0
    The issue of increasing US forces in Poland has already been resolved in a positive way, they added in the publication, but subject to some conditions put forward by the Americans
    American conditions - US military units allow various atrocities in Poland, such as:
    - departure of natural necessities in settlements where it will be convenient for them;
    - the possibility of drunken fights to relieve stress;
    - permission for periodic fights with the local population;
    - rape of local women who liked, again to relieve stress due to unbearable conditions of service ....
  12. Yodzakura
    Yodzakura 16 November 2018 16: 27
    0
    Well, Poland is afraid of Russia, too, need to understand, well, selfish interests are present in the form of money for rent
  13. APASUS
    APASUS 16 November 2018 16: 49
    0
    The Americans will not lose their way, the Poles promised $ 2 billion to build an American base and will have to be built, but only as the Americans want.
    1. Yodzakura
      Yodzakura 16 November 2018 17: 10
      0
      For example, medium-range missiles in the future, huh?
  14. venik
    venik 16 November 2018 18: 42
    0
    "...the American side is not averse to increasing its presence in Poland, but only in a different form.... "
    =======
    Of course! Well, they can't place the Fort Tramp"!!! A different format is needed:" Fort Clinton "for example !! wassat
  15. TOR2
    TOR2 16 November 2018 22: 46
    0
    According to the publication, the American side is not averse to increasing its presence in Poland, but only in a different form