Moscow and Tokyo intensify negotiations on a peace treaty

Russia and Japan are stepping up negotiations on a peace treaty based on the 1956 declaration of the year. This was agreed at the meeting by Russian President Vladimir Putin and Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, said Russian Presidential Press Secretary Dmitry Peskov.

Peskov said that Putin and Abe, following the results of the conversation, agreed to intensify the negotiation process on the issue of a peace treaty on the basis of the Soviet-Japanese declaration 1956 of the year. Following the meeting, Prime Minister of Japan Shinzo Abe expressed the hope that the two countries would resolve the territorial issue and sign a peace treaty.

It became known earlier that Tokyo wants to confirm the Joint Declaration of the USSR and Japan on 1956. In late October, the Prime Minister of Japan announced his intention to conclude a peace treaty with Russia.

Recall that the Joint Declaration on ending the state of war between the USSR and Japan and restoring diplomatic and consular relations was signed in Moscow on October 19 on 1956. In the 9-th article of the document, the Soviet government agreed to transfer the island of Shikotan and a number of small uninhabited islands of the Small Kuril Ridge Habomai to Japan only after the conclusion of a peace treaty. December 8 The 1956 declaration was ratified by both states, but after concluding a Japanese-US security treaty in 1960, the Soviet Union canceled the transfer of islands, indicating that Shikotan and Habomai would be transferred to Japan only if all foreign troops were withdrawn from its territory.

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[Faceless]

Hoku Wangyu:

On the eastern slope of Mount Fuji, horseradish bloomed.
Do not see the Japanese Kuril ...

[41 REGION]

Quote: Faceless

Hoku Wangyu:

On the eastern slope of Mount Fuji, horseradish bloomed.
Do not see the Japanese Kuril ...

I have already written more than once that I agree with V.V. Zhirinovsky "We can give Japan only Khakamada"

[41 REGION]

Something I did not notice that the base would disappear in Okinawa. And so it all depends on our leadership

[Ross xnumx]

Just on a hunch:
I do not live in the Kremlin
They will decide without me
The island issue...

[cost]

after the conclusion of the Japanese-American security treaty in 1960, the Soviet Union annulled its obligation to transfer the islands, indicating that Shikotan and Habomai would be transferred to Japan only if all foreign troops were withdrawn from its territory.

it is necessary to stand on that

[Letun]

Quote: Rich

it is necessary to stand on that

And now carefully read the first sentence of the article:
"Russia and Japan are stepping up negotiations on a peace treaty based on the 1956 declaration."
1956 yearsnot 1960.

[cost]

And now we carefully read my comment - I wrote that the Soviet Union annulled the obligations of 1956 to transfer the islands, indicating that Shikotan and Habomai would be transferred to Japan only if all foreign troops were withdrawn from its territory. This is where you must stand. This is the red line that you can’t cross.
And my personal IMHO islands can not be given in any case

[zhekazs]

Quote: Rich

that Shikotan and Habomai will be transferred to Japan only subject to the withdrawal of all foreign troops from its territory.

This is the same as recognizing the USSR as WWII loser. Why the hell do we owe something to samurai? No, no territorial claims on the part of surrendered Japan should be accepted in any form, and if you try to raise this issue, all negotiations should cease. And only so. It is necessary to stop all flirting on a territorial theme. In this matter, we should only advance, so we rolled back 300 years. They gave the land that was not obtained by us, and again we will give something? Yes, let's agree that Amerz from Germany or the Baltic states comes out, and for this we will give Moscow / Crimea. And what? No? For me, that the Kuril Islands, that Moscow are equivalent and cannot be the subject of bargaining, even thoughts should not arise. Otherwise - betrayal.
Who needs a peace treaty? Us? No. It should be borne in mind that in the event of a conflict, Russia can completely destroy the Japanese archipelago, Japan is not our enemy, and this must be clearly conveyed to their leadership. And do not spit about the burnt cities and the corpses of the kids. We must be ready to go to the end, only then they will reckon with us. A snot leave for the liberals.

[Giants]

Quote: zhekazs

Who needs a peace treaty? Us? No.

I agree with you. Russia does not have territorial problems with Japan. Then why is Putin conducting these negotiations ?! Why doesn't he destroy these Japanese mriyas in the bud? If he was not going to give in to the Japanese, why all this circus? My point of view: he will give up the islands, the main thing is that the Ministry of Foreign Affairs presents betrayal as a help, as an example of a strategic partnership between two great powers (well, you yourself know what they say in such cases).

[Evgeniy667b]

Velikanov (Alexey Velikanov) I agree with you. Gapant of the Russian constitution is the most link in this matter. He does not get used to squandering the territory. He is not interested in the interests of Russia, but his personal interests, just like the interests of his loyal entourage

[zhekazs]

Quote: Giants

Why doesn't he destroy these Japanese mriyas in the bud?

Well, firstly, these are not samurai wet fantasies. They do not need these islands nafig. They say that in Japan there is overpopulation, therefore they need these territories. Nothing of the kind, their northernmost Hokkaido is still poorly populated - it is cold there and there is a lot of snow. Secondly, these islands are needed by the Amerzians, I think there is no need to explain why, here they are samurai and dripping on the brain, and all the hype in the local press and social movements are organized at a time, just pay.

Quote: Giants

My point: he will give up the islands

I think that after what Putin said today in Singapore, your point of view will change.

[zhekazs]

Quote: Rich

it is necessary to stand on that

What do you propose to stand on? On the transfer of the islands? This is a betrayal. I believe that the Soviet leadership at that time did not fully realize the strategic importance of the southern islands of the ridge for the Navy, and therefore allowed such an indulgence - the probability of transfer in the event of the withdrawal of foreign troops.
But in the modern world, we have already experienced this after the collapse of the USSR. Today, Amerz loudly announces the withdrawal of its troops, we are persuaded to sign an agreement on the transfer of the islands, and then the Amerz suspends the withdrawal of its troops. And what are we left with? Without islands, with a worthless peace treaty with samurai and the same amazement in Okinawa. Well, not at all suckers, no?
Why they say that history must be taught. The end of the 80s and the beginning of the 90s is a story and many either don’t know it or have already forgotten it. We have already been deceived more than once, as much as possible on the same rake.
All talk about transferring the islands is a betrayal and a crime, a review of the outcome of the entire WWII.

[zyzx]

Quote: Faceless

Hoku Wangyu:

On the eastern slope of Mount Fuji, horseradish bloomed.
Do not see the Japanese Kuril ...

They raised VAT, raised their retirement age, drowned a village-sized dock, bandits in prisons live like in Courchevel .... people are silent .... and they will swallow the rejection of the Kuril Islands.

[lis-ik]

Quote: zyzx

Quote: Faceless

Hoku Wangyu:

On the eastern slope of Mount Fuji, horseradish bloomed.
Do not see the Japanese Kuril ...

They raised VAT, raised their retirement age, drowned a village-sized dock, bandits in prisons live like in Courchevel .... people are silent .... and they will swallow the rejection of the Kuril Islands.

It seems like everything is going to this. The question is, why do we need this peace treaty?

[Machito]

Smoked them? They have not yet answered for Tsushima.

[tap]

Japan need islands. Our government is ready to talk about it. No one will ask us.

[pros000007]

and on the tele-zomboyaschik they will tell us about another diplomatic victory

[mac789]

How do you like hockey: Shikotan has gone into the fog of the rising sun ... It is very similar to a sink.

[cost]

Oh, mom, Shikotan, Shikotan. Tarkan (s)

[Krasnodar]

In the style of the tank:
On the deck of the aircraft carrier Yamashiro
Standing with katana proud Yamamoto
And a wedge of geese flies for the plane
Flying to the top of white Fuji
We did not see smoked, on the Okinawa Yankees
The admiral thought and made Sepuk

[New Year day]

Quote: Faceless

Do not see the Japanese Kuril ...

Japanese claims that the contract will be signed on the basis of the declaration of the 56th year

[zhekazs]

Quote: Silvestr

Japanese claims that the contract will be signed on the basis of the declaration of the 56th year

said the press secretary of the President of the Russian Federation Dmitry Peskov.

Peskov said Putin and Abe

Who is Japanese? Sand? Or was he already confused in his mustache ...

[snake]

Near, nearby - joy and misfortune.
It must be firmly answered:
To the solar world - Yes! Yes! Yes!
Japam give the Kuril Islands - No! No! No!

[the most important]

Quote: Faceless

Hoku Wangyu:

On the eastern slope of Mount Fuji, horseradish bloomed.
Do not see the Japanese Kuril ...

Unfortunately. everything will be completely wrong .... If you do not give the islands, then negotiations are not needed. And if you decide to give, then negotiations are just bargaining for the price. Some people have said that while he is president, they will not raise the retirement age. Now it's the turn of the islands ???

[Logall]

process on the problems of a peace treaty on the basis of the Soviet-Japanese declaration of 1956.

I hope we will not trade in the islands! Otherwise, a violation of the Constitution of the Russian Federation ... With all the ensuing consequences.
But you need to trade something, because such agreements are always trades, promotion of conditions and some kind of compensation. So what is the Russian government ready to offer the descendants of the samurai?

[Black sniper]

For example, used plastic bottles because they do not have their own hydrocarbons.

[zhekazs]

Quote: Logall

So what is the Russian government ready to offer the descendants of the samurai?

We offer them their location. We have a huge market for them, in which they are interested, therefore we ourselves can and should set the conditions. Our leadership, I hope this will be realized.

Quote: Black Sniper

For example, used plastic bottles because they do not have their own hydrocarbons.

They already sit on our gas and oil.

[Alexkorzun]

Otherwise, a violation of the Constitution of the Russian Federation ... With all the ensuing consequences.

Well, what for the consequences, colleague? What are you dreaming of? They will give us, they will hang noodles for us and we will swallow all this guano, as well as many times before.
Pension reform, and even without a referendum, a direct violation of Part 2 of Art. 55 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation. And what ?
Our gentlemen are preparing another "gift" - confiscation single housing debtors. (there was still immunity). So what ? Your actions ? Yes, no one will collapse.
GDP is reaching its final date; it no longer needs to remain white / fluffy. His election is not even a year old, and already how many nishtyaks: gasoline, VAT, pension, housing ... And these are the basic positions. So his hands are untied and he intends to clear the way for his successor.

[the most important]

Quote: Logall

I hope we will not trade in the islands! Otherwise, a violation of the Constitution of the Russian Federation ... With all the ensuing consequences.

What are the consequences ???? The constitution guarantees retirement at 55-60 years old and who stopped it ?? It would not be surprising, but only grandfather Zu can stop the sale of the islands by stating that if the candidate from the Communist Party wins the presidential election, all those involved in violating the integrity of the country will be brought to trial for treason (confiscation of property). Only this can stop the sale of the islands.

[Svarog]

The Japanese have weak trump cards .. to us, in fact, it’s not hot or cold from a peace treaty with them, but they want to chop off the islands .. The naive people, though hardworking))

[mikh-korsakov]

By the way, about the unprecedented technological progress of the Japanese and their exceptional diligence - I looked there - and I doubt it. Was at a Japanese firm. In principle, everything is just like we did in the Soviet years - there is even a board of honor and competition between departments is flourishing. But they brought us to a workshop where about fifty young Japanese women are sitting and blowing out glass flasks for PMTs (photomultiplier tubes) with their mouths. And what is the percentage of rejects: "out of fifty, one flask is recognized as suitable" - they answered me. Someone will tell me - this is the triumph of rationality. This is so: because for the time being there is a contingent of girls from mountain villages who are ready to spoil their lungs for eight hours a day for a reasonable fee. This is not a triumph of capitalism, but an animal grin. As for hard work - we were there for two weeks. During the entire time, a Japanese man was assigned to us, who accompanied us - hard work was not noticed - but he was smiling all the time.

[Svarog]

Quote: mikh-korsakov

industriousness was not noticed - but all the time he smiled.

Well, that was precisely what seemed to be his job — to smile, which he carried out responsibly .. I also encountered the Japanese at work and hard work is generally the basis of their nation, it seems to me .. their culture is such that any, not even significant business, they strive to make perfect .. I have a hobby, I am engaged in jewelry casting, so in this business they are just aces .. and in many others ..

[mvg]

This is so: because and so far there is a contingent of girls from mountain villages - eight hours a day ready

In the yard was 1960

[Alexey RA]

Quote: mvg

In the yard was 1960

In 1999, at the Tokaymoor nuclear facility workers manually mixed uranium oxide and nitric acid in 10-liter stainless steel buckets, rather than in the designated tank; they added the resulting mixture not to the buffer tank, but directly to a fairly wide and voluminous sump.
While the initial raw material was low enriched uranium, everything was fine. But on September 30.09.1999, 7, the enterprise began processing high-enrichment raw materials - and workers, without paying attention to another type of raw materials, habitually mixed and poured 7 buckets of the mixture into the sump — 20 times the maximum permissible value for this type of raw material. You can’t deceive physics - in the sump it flashed blue, and a chain reaction began, lasting XNUMX hours.
The country of high technology. Electronics, robotics ... and at a nuclear facility, three people with a spoon on a long handle interfere with a mixture of uranium and nitric acid in a stainless steel bucket, and then pour the bucket into a sump. At the same time, they are completely unaware of what they are actually doing.

[mvg]

The country of high technology. Electronics, robotics ...

Alex, in Russia there are worse things .. and this is considered normal ..

[mikh-korsakov]

No, 1998. By the way, this company was then a monopolist in the manufacture of BGO-detectors - products of the highest accuracy and reliability. And I gave an example with Japanese girls so that it was clear "from what rubbish poetry is born" in Japanese.

[Curious]

Mikh-korsakov I do not want to offend you with distrust, but will you tell me which company you were at and in what years? Otherwise, you are very much like a Pravda correspondent from 1960.

[mikh-korsakov]

Hamamatsu Photonics. Hamamatsu city. I am writing what I saw, I do not pretend to generalize. As for the Pravda correspondent, but in 1960 I did not read the Pravda newspaper, so I cannot appreciate your remark - is this a compliment or an invective?

[Curious]

Then you, knowingly, or not knowingly, mislead the people. No "girls from mountain villages" worked in the production of optoelectronic devices, and glass blowers for many years at these enterprises, including in the USSR, were among the most highly qualified specialists who performed filigree work.

[mikh-korsakov]

Not true - I wrote what I saw. We are talking about the production of PMTs for BGO detectors. The production of PMTs involves many stages, including the manufacture of a flask. The production of the flask itself with the device is a simple job and does not require much skill - a large number of defects is explained by a very small tolerance in size. In view of the specifics of his work, he made pyrex, molybdenum glass, or even quartz instruments for his own work for many years, so I write with skill, I did it myself, since glassblowers of even high qualification were avid drunks in those years. You are probably confused with glassblowers from Gus Khrustalny, but this is a completely different song.

[Curious]

About Gus-Khrustalny - you said that well. No, I'm talking about glass blowers from VNIIOFI or the Arsenal plant. Of course, if you make a flask for FEU-1, then you can have a hangover, but if astrophysicists ordered a camera, then this, as you say, is "another song."

[mikh-korsakov]

Actually in the nineties, the organization. where I worked was a consumer of detectors with BGO crystals (BGO-bismuth-germanium-osmium) manufactured by Hamamatsu Photonics. These crystals have a uniquely high density, which provides record-breaking efficiency in registering gamma radiation in a small volume, which makes it possible to produce miniature crystals with miniature PMTs, which in turn makes it possible to create ensembles of crystals for operation in anticoincidence mode for detecting positron radiation as part of object visualization . I was invited there as part of the delegation and made a report there on aspects of the application of their products. We visited the company, and what I saw there I described, naturally I saw a lot of other things there. but all this was nothing super-natural, inaccessible to understanding.

[Curious]

I am not a physicist, I am an engineer - mechanic, metallurgist. But also visited Japan. Repeatedly. In their metallurgy, too, there was nothing supernatural and inaccessible to understanding. Moreover, the Japanese in the USSR borrowed a lot. However, the level of the electronic industry and the level of the metallurgical industry are not comparable. And you obviously did not notice about hard work.

[mikh-korsakov]

It seems to me that the reason for success is not even hard work, the Japanese people are secretive to foreigners and God knows what they really love, but in the good organization of work in combination with the team’s attitude to work and the strictest exit control of products. The atmosphere there reminded me of successful Soviet organizations - there were some. I have already mentioned a board of honor and competition - its results were summed up once a month and the winning department was awarded with a guided tour of Japan. However, they accepted us there very well - fed with lobsters and much more. so I have no offense in the Japanese. And about the girls - glassblowers, that is, that is. And I would not dwell on this, if not for the deification of Japanese technology by some commentators.

[georggy]

Or maybe you don’t need to be clever. And my dear. Znayka.

[mikh-korsakov]

I'm not nice to you.

[41 REGION]

Not true - I wrote what I saw

You are probably confused with glassblowers from Goose Crystal

Michael I also did not see any girls from the villages, but in total I spent more than a year in Japan.
And glassblowers are all over Japan The closest to Korsakov (which I know of) is in Otar
Are you confusing something

[Ross xnumx]

If you add to their trump cards the requirement of the former leadership of the USSR:

indicating that Shikotan and Habomai will be transferred to Japan only subject to the withdrawal of all foreign troops from its territory.

That can be resolved in the simplest way - a referendum. After all, this is public property, which is not subject to a simple transfer, as was done with the Russian territories in the European part. What the people decide will be.

[lis-ik]

Quote: ROSS 42

If you add to their trump cards the requirement of the former leadership of the USSR:

indicating that Shikotan and Habomai will be transferred to Japan only subject to the withdrawal of all foreign troops from its territory.

That can be resolved in the simplest way - a referendum. After all, this is public property, which is not subject to a simple transfer, as was done with the Russian territories in the European part. What the people decide will be.

We have already given away public property without a referendum, I'm talking about the bowels, I think this time we will smash.

[tap]

Holy naivety. Nationwide. We have only a few percent of this people. The rest are the population.

[New Year day]

Quote: ROSS 42

The issue can be resolved in the simplest way - a referendum.

The authorities are afraid of referenda, just remember the pension.

[Henderson]

For calls for a referendum, you can now get to Kolyma.

[210ox]

And here it is. Yap is the trump card. This is a weak Russian economy. Dependence on hydrocarbon exports with all that it implies.

[The Siberian barber]

It seems to me that their main trump card is the "negotiability" "of our leadership, in solving such issues ((there are examples, unfortunately

[andrson]

will return the islands. time is on their side.

[ODERVIT]

For the party in power, concessions over the islands are the last nail ... They won’t.

[victor50]

Quote: ODERVIT

For the party in power, concessions over the islands are the last nail ... They won’t.

Not sure .. We already wrote above - the people will swallow it too ... They will try to present as a triumph of the current government a peace treaty with Japan itself !!! And what do we need from that ?! It has painfully often this question has come up recently ...

[DMoroz]

they’ll serve under some sauce (a la Zhirinovsky) that we don’t need it, but we’ll switch to left-hand traffic and every Russian citizen will get a Japanese car for free ...

[zhekazs]

Quote: victor50

Not sure .. We already wrote above - the people will swallow it ...

And I’m not sure that the people will endure such a betrayal. And the government understands this well, at least sometimes confusing frames, as with the same pensions. And among the people, the need for a leader with a strong personality, like Comrade Stalin, is soaring.

[lis-ik]

Quote: ODERVIT

For the party in power, concessions over the islands are the last nail ... They won’t.

They will. They need to have time to grab some more, because only five or more years are legitimately left. The mere fact of a return to the 1956 declaration suggests that there will be concessions, bargaining for oneself preferences.

[Proton]

Just give them, they’ll open their mouths on Sakhalin

[inkass_98]

Again Murka in a circle will begin to drive. Then, somehow, it doesn’t grow together again, the Japanese thugs kicked up with a claim to become the mistress of the sea and rule in Sakhalin, and it started - it started to bite the stake.

[Naughty]

Quote: Faceless

Hoku Wangyu:

On the eastern slope of Mount Fuji, horseradish bloomed.
Do not see the Japanese Kuril ...

Chewing the horseradish the Japanese thought
And to hell with us Kuril Islands?

[Black sniper]

Yes, invisible to the Japanese islands as their ears, max. visa-free will issue a free economic zone.

[Naughty]

So many years we live without a peace treaty We will live another 100 years

[Gardamir]

The so-called peace treaty means one thing, a gift from the Kremlin to the Japanese. There are no other options.

[stalki]

Let us throw more islands and then peace

[Solomon]

Quote: stalki

Let us throw more islands and then peace

This is quite possible ..

[Solomon]

You can’t see the Kuril Islands of Japan at all .. As long as there are American bases there!
And to be honest, I would have squeezed the United States out of Japan and South Korea before it is too late .. China, the DPRK is gaining military power .. It is necessary to start negotiations without necessarily the United States! Koreans, Chinese are too angry with the Japanese (they shed a lot of blood) And the United States with them in the Korean War ..

[samarin1969]

The Japanese will receive the islands and refuse compensation for their "illegal use by Russia." Well, the Foreign Ministry will again describe this as a "major diplomatic success." It is difficult to expect anything good from this "intensification of negotiations".

[BAI]

indicating that Shikotan and Habomai will be transferred to Japan only subject to the withdrawal of all foreign troops from its territory.

This position must be adhered to. But on the other hand - having given once small, then you will constantly give large. There will be no stop on these 2 islands, they will tear to pieces further.

[vitvit123]

And what prevents the Amers from separating us again ... They removed their troops, our islands were given to the Yapam, and they put their bases back ...
I would not just do one emphasis on foreign troops. I hope our other claims have a lot in store, just in case.

[Henderson]

Amers do not need to breed anyone. It will breed its own power.

[Filxnumx]

And what prevents the Amers from separating us again ... They removed their troops, our islands were given to the Yapam, and they put their bases back ...
And what prevents our again from remembering about 1960 in this case?

[faterdom]

Of the three significant years of the last century, concerning Japan, 1905, 1945 and 1956, 1945 is somehow closer to me. It is on it that we must base all our foreign policy activities. And with the European Union, by the way, too. There was also some of the 90s, when a drunken Yeltsin presented the "friend Ryu" islands, after which he fell asleep safely. It was during a joint trip on a yacht. It took Korzhakov the entire following night with the campaign to convince the samurai that "the chief was joking."
The chef didn’t remember anything like that in the morning.

[MrFYGY]

Damansky was given to the Chinese, and here are some two islets.
I don't care that the Sea of ​​Okhotsk will become a playground for the US Navy.
Spit that the islands have significant reserves of rare earth resources.
It’s all the same that our ancestors shed a lot of blood for these islands.

The main thing is only "peace" and replenishment of bank accounts offshore.

[alexvdv78]

Already very often this topic began to arise. A transfer of the islands is being prepared in exchange for a meaningless peace treaty. With this agreement, you can safely boldly go to the toilet immediately and use as intended. Let even two islands be exchanged for a piece of paper ... I do not have enough censorship words. But there’s enough experience of quietness among Vova, the islands on our Amur River, that the border with China is five kilometers straight from the city center, is a breakthrough in international relations, as they sang then. And the Barents Sea is transferred to Norway. So, nothing will hinder them this time and crank up the businessman, but they will be peacekeepers .... sadly, but everything goes to this. Well, we will have a drink and it’s all over.

[New Year day]

Quote: alexvdv78

A transfer of the islands is being prepared in exchange for a meaningless peace treaty.

Rather, for loans, and the ability of people to give our territories to give away territories can be no doubt. Suffice it to recall Azerbaijan, China, Norway

[Стена]

It seems to me (I crossed myself) that after the arrival of the President of Switzerland, Didier Burkhalter as if replaced our GDP, either hypnotized, or added something. After that meeting from him one harm to Russia. And he completely agrees to transfer the islands of Japan, the question is only in price.

[sustav75]

An encrypted message came from the center (CIA) - "Volodymyr, you are close to failure, please hurry up in solving problems important for the USA! America will not forget you ...

[Giants]

Quote: Wall

It seems to me (I crossed myself) that after the arrival of the President of Switzerland, Didier Burkhalter seemed to have replaced our GDP, or hypnotized

Didier simply popularly explained to him that dude, who was made up for Putin, was not Putin, and if all the media in the West began to pedal this topic, the prompter would envy Gaddafi’s fate.

[New Year day]

If there is a peace treaty without islands, aerobatics. But something tells you, this will not be

[sustav75]

For the Japanese, a peace treaty is just a transfer of islands! They have everything! They can afford to buy everything except land (territories)

[Sands Careers General]

I doubt very much about "giving". Rather, they will stir up a joint economy with the Japanese on the islands.

[Henderson]

How interesting the tone of news about the Kuril Islands is changing. Previously, there were "no islands", then there was a "joint household", in this already "will be transferred Japan only provided the withdrawal of all foreign troops from its territory. "
But there are no troops there, except for the Russian ones. What a clever multi-way! I bow to the greatest Strategist of all time.

[Svarog]

Quote: Henderson

this already "will be transferred to Japan only on condition of the withdrawal of all foreign troops from its territory."

And have the US military bases already taken out of Japan?

[Henderson]

Of course not. And the Japanese themselves are not at all interested in such an option; on the contrary, they still pay extra for security. But friend Vladimir will obviously take their interests into account sooner or later as soon as he prepares Russian public opinion.

[aleks.29ru]

The authorities have already expressed their attitude to the territorial issue: why do you need Alaska? Soon we will hear "why do you need the Kuriles?" Or are you waiting for the statement "As a result of the negotiations, the Japanese side renounced its territorial claims"?

[GTYCBJYTH2021]

Indeed, why do we need Russia! Alaska? We cannot live in Kamchatka, Sakhalin ......

[GUSAR]

What Japanese interestingly promised him this?

[sustav75]

I’ll just say, if Vova gives two islands to the Japanese, he will soon have to give Crimea too! Perhaps, as with his retirement, he will appear on television and write everything off for the 56th year, saying that Khrushchev is to blame! He gave Crimea to Ukrainians, and promised the Kuril Islands to the Japanese! There are those who agree with this. The Americans will not leave Japan, even if Putin gives Sakhalin ...

[Occupant]

A hole to you from a bagel, not the Kuril Islands!

[Vadmir]

Russia and Japan intensify negotiations on a peace treaty on the basis of the 1956 declaration.

Goodbye Shikotan and the Lesser Kuril Islands, at least. Hello American base on Shikotan.
But there the Sea of ​​Okhotsk is vital for our country, as the place of duty of our submarines with ICBMs. And this is not to mention natural resources.
How is it possible to squander the lands for which our ancestors shed blood?

[Masya masya]

Putin and Abe agreed to intensify the negotiation process following the results of the conversation

the water in the mortar will be even more energetic ...

[New Year day]

I wonder, what will the GDP agitators say in the event of the return of the islands of Japan?
After the pension reform, their enthusiasm diminished. And ahead is Donbass, Ukraine. If you believe the Japanese, then the issue of signing was resolved in the framework of 56 years. If so, then the multi-vents ended in a tsutswang

[bald]

Good evening Sylvester. Under the agreement, provided that there will not be a contingent of other states on the territory of Japan - and they have a solid state base. But faith in Putin is lost - he will sell a piece of Russia, as well as his people. He can make a tricky move - they will agree until he leaves the presidency.

[New Year day]

Quote: bald

Good evening Sylvester

Good evening. So the Japanese prime minister rests on friendly relations with GDP and 1956.
Because

Quote: bald

faith in Putin is lost

,
then I’m not surprised at anything. It's a shame only.

[bald]

Mao was an Eastern smart man. I share your feelings - similarly.

[Beringovsky]

Mnogohodovochki over ... mnogohodilochka broke
there were only multibutters and promises

[3vs]

Shinzo Abe made a strong move!
The ball is on the side of comrade Putin.
Now either give the islands or admit that hell to you and no peace treaty
we will not conclude ...
Although a loophole remains:
"But after the conclusion of the Japanese-American security treaty in 1960, the Soviet Union canceled the commitments to transfer the islands, indicating that Shikotan and Habomai would be transferred to Japan only on the condition that all foreign troops are withdrawn from its territory."
One cannot count on the voluntary departure of the arrogant Saxons from Japan ...

[Vadmir]

One cannot count on the voluntary departure of the arrogant Saxons from Japan ...

This is so, but unfortunately in the agreement of 1956 on the basis of which they plan to conclude agreements there is no reservation on foreign bases.
Putin has long offered Japan the Shikotan and the Lesser Kuril Islands, but the Japanese wanted all the islands, if they renounce claims on the 2 islands they are likely to give the rest.

[3vs]

Shinzo Abe wants to go down in the history of his country.
And what if he receives at least two islands, it will be possible to say that I completed my task, return the remaining islands yourself if you can ...
The question is, will ours go to this without removing American bases from Japan ?!
Here, as they say, if you give a finger, you would not even bite off your hand! :-)

[bald]

I wonder if I will keep my promise not to give back - I think not. Or will pass on to the shoulders of the next president.

[APASUS]

I represent the line in the Russian Foreign Ministry from countries wishing to revise the borders, after signing the peace treaty with Japan!
What other countries puts ..............

[rocket757]

Just watch and wait. Closer to the results, if we find out what, we will reason or act!

[zhekazs]

Peskov said that Putin and Abe, following the results of the conversation, agreed to intensify the negotiation process on the peace treaty on the basis of the Soviet-Japanese declaration of 1956.

What the hell is the declaration of the 56th year? Geopolitics has already changed so much over these 64 years that the declaration of the 56th year is no longer relevant in any form. Today we need a peace treaty, which will clearly spell out the absence of any territorial claims on both sides. And there can be no talk of transferring the islands. What nonsense is a schizophrenic? Who capitulated - the USSR or Japan? In fact, any talk about the islands in the context of the territorial requirements of the Japanese is a revision of the results of World War II. It is necessary to suppress all attempts by the Japanese to even hint at claims to the islands or there will be no peace treaty. Now is not the middle of the last century, and Japan is by no means an adversary for Russia, and this should be understood first of all by the Russian leadership, which has all the possibilities, to completely destroy the Japanese archipelago in case of conflict. Well, we won’t have a peace treaty with Japan, so what? Although Japan is strong, today it’s not the same economy that was at the end of the last century and you can sacrifice some economic ties with them, given that the economic giant China, Korea, and other Asia-Pacific countries are located very close by. Sometimes you need to be choosy in communications and, if the Guarantor squeezes his pragmatism a little, the country will not suffer from this. I hope that all this fuss and flirting with the samurai is just another series of endless soap opera and the usual demagogy of politicians, because it will be possible to agree on something serious with Japan only after this country becomes sovereign.
PS. And in general, Garant needs to stop his toothless gimmicks with samurai, that's enough. To the next question on the islands, it would be time to firmly state the truth - why on earth does Japan lay claim to its previously temporarily occupied territories, discovered and staked for the first time by Russian pioneers much earlier than the Japanese, and on which the Japanese population never lived and where more than a few graves of Japanese military invaders no their cemeteries.

[allegro]

everything you said is correct, sound, your words and ears in them, enough to cuddle before them and give them hope, it's time to say harshly NO

[allegro]

on the basis of the 1956 declaration, well, what could be the basis, the USSR acted wisely at one time, and the GDP itself adds fuel to the fire, in place of harshly saying that the Kuriles are ours, period and it is not subject to appeal, because this "agreement" They need the so-called first of all, and the American troops on their territory will not go anywhere, they have to put pressure on it, withdraw the American bases, and then we will see, but they will not do it, the temporary workers of the Kuril Islands will surrender, they cannot defend the interests of the country, the deflection policy continues and it will end sadly for the country

[vladimirvn]

Young Asian tigers have long pushed Japan to the sidelines in the pace of development, and often in technology. For japs, cooperation with Russia is a chance. But let's see.

[akudr48]

The game of giveaways with Japan on the theme of the islands will end badly for our country.

The guarantor wants to negotiate territory in order to sign a peace treaty.
Land in exchange for paper.
What for?

[ashnajder]

someone wanted money, or rather, GDP and companies.

[iouris]

What is meant: Americans are evacuated from Okinawa and in general, or will islands be given up?

[Million]

Given the conscience and honor of the leaders of the state, the Kuril Islands can sell ....

[Lieutenant colonel]

But I’m not calm at heart from such a statement about the declaration. Unless, of course, the Japanese send American troops home, which for obvious reasons will not happen.

[Tashkent citizen]

That this Shinzo Abe is so worried. He will take his Kuril Islands.
I also found Kemsk volost.

[NordUral]

Transfer of the Kuril Islands under any justification will be a state crime.

[kartalovkolya]

If you take into account the mood of the people of Russia, then the person transferring the Kuril Islands of Japan will lose everything from fasting to freedom, and maybe life! Such an infamous betrayal, Russia will never forgive anyone! And Japan, which lost in 2 MV and is actually an occupied country, should generally sit and stupidly be silent, because you wouldn’t have to answer for crimes about which they have not yet been asked.