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Trump insulted Macron's proposal to create a European army

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United States President Donald Trump found the proposal by French President Emmanuel Macron to create a "pan-European army" to defend against Russia, China and the United States "very offensive", which he made a corresponding entry on his Twitter page.


Trump insulted Macron's proposal to create a European army


In particular, the American leader said that the proposal of the French President Macron to create its own armed forces in Europe to protect against Russia, China and the United States is "very offensive." At the same time, Trump did not forget to remind Macron that most of the costs of maintaining the armed forces of the North Atlantic Alliance are borne by the United States, and before declaring the creation of their army, Europe must reimburse all American expenses spent on its defense.

French President Emmanuel Macron previously proposed to create a pan-European army, which would not be subordinate to NATO and the United States, to protect the united Europe not only from the Russian and Chinese threats, but also from the United States, including in cyberspace.

The President of the United States, Donald Trump, has repeatedly spoken negatively about the European "NATO partners" due to the fact that it is the United States that is primarily responsible for the content of the alliance. He has repeatedly called on Europe to increase defense spending.
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  1. 210ox
    210ox 10 November 2018 12: 27
    +7
    They carry water on the offended .. And this is putting it mildly
    1. Machito
      Machito 10 November 2018 12: 32
      +5
      Trump acts like a racketeer.
      1. Pereira
        Pereira 10 November 2018 12: 34
        +20
        Isn’t it time to bomb France?
        Macron's bloody regime must be overthrown.
        1. Machito
          Machito 10 November 2018 12: 39
          +6
          Let's see how at the summit in Paris Macron will fawn before the owner.
          1. Arh
            Arh 10 November 2018 17: 05
            0
            Offended trump and teasing macron wassat tongue laughing
            1. cost
              cost 11 November 2018 08: 38
              0
              The American leader said that the proposal of French President Macron to create its own armed forces in Europe to protect against Russia, China and the United States is "very offensive." At the same time, Trump did not forget to remind Macron that most of the costs of maintaining the armed forces of the North Atlantic Alliance are borne by the United States, and before declaring the creation of its army, Europe needs to reimburse all American costs spent on its defense.

              Whoever dames the lady dances her laughing
        2. NEXUS
          NEXUS 10 November 2018 12: 54
          -2
          Quote: Pereira
          Isn’t it time to bomb France?

          But is it time to call the orderlies?
          Quote: Pereira
          Macron's bloody regime must be overthrown.

          They say the same thing about Putin’s rule. War in the yard, dear. And if you do not understand this, then turn on the brain and try to analyze the situation.
          To make it easier for you, I’ll say that if a country spends more than 2% of the budget on defense, it is in fact at war. Now look at European countries, Asian, America, and pay attention to how much money is spent on defense in these countries .
          1. Piramidon
            Piramidon 10 November 2018 13: 10
            +8
            Quote: NEXUS
            Quote: Pereira
            Isn’t it time to bomb France?

            But is it time to call the orderlies?
            Quote: Pereira
            Macron's bloody regime must be overthrown.

            They say the same thing about Putin’s rule. War in the yard, dear. And if you do not understand this, then turn on the brain and try to analyze the situation.
            To make it easier for you, I’ll say that if a country spends more than 2% of the budget on defense, it is in fact at war. Now look at European countries, Asian, America, and pay attention to how much money is spent on defense in these countries .

            Andrei, as I understand it, this is Mikhail’s humor. Well, maybe a person does not know how to attach smiles to comments. hi
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 10 November 2018 13: 20
              +2
              Quote: Piramidon
              Andrei, as I understand it, this is Mikhail’s humor.

              To humor on the subject - the whole world is in ruins, and I Dartanyan, sorry Stepan can only be a narrow-minded person. Already excuse me for being blunt. I was at war and I know what it is. And believe me, there is nothing funny. The French also have children, women and the elderly. When you see the death of a child from a land mine, you look and evaluate everything in a completely different way.
              So put a smile here or don’t put, not the point. Sometimes you just need to turn on your head.
              Sorry for the broken dishes. hi
              1. Piramidon
                Piramidon 10 November 2018 13: 34
                +11
                I understood him so that he did not offer us, but Trump to bomb the rebellious Macron for offering an alternative to NATO. Something like this. request
                1. NEXUS
                  NEXUS 10 November 2018 13: 38
                  +1
                  Quote: Piramidon
                  I understood him so that he did not offer us, but Trump to bomb the rebellious Macron for offering an alternative to NATO. Something like this. request

                  And when mattresses bomb a myrtle on BV, are such proposals also in use? Or are there other people, children, old people on BV?
                  It’s a funny joke at all to take a fuck at the peaceful cities of France ... just like to Hiroshima, and then this citizen will be the first to lament here about the injustice and treachery of the mattresses.
                  1. Piramidon
                    Piramidon 10 November 2018 13: 51
                    +9
                    Andrei, this is some kind of dialogue between the mute and the deaf we are getting. Scroll, pzhlt, all the comments, maybe you will understand that there was nothing that you saw here.
                    PS If you do not agree with something, then the rest, please, in PM. Who cares about our argument here? hi
                    1. Pereira
                      Pereira 10 November 2018 14: 30
                      +8
                      Stepan, thanks for the unexpected support.
                      The Nexus is clearly out of sorts today, and it is not possible to reason with it either at the posts above or at the posts below.
                      I basically do not use emoticons, considering them a kind of off-screen laughter. I usually hope to have a sense of humor in the interlocutor.
                      But, it should be recognized that statements like Makronovsky are very smack of rebellion on the ship. To bomb, not to bomb, and walk on the board Macron may well be offered.
                      This Nexus clearly sensed and became alarmed. I didn’t suppose that he was so angry for our potential adversary. Even suspiciously somehow.
                      1. Shurik70
                        Shurik70 10 November 2018 19: 51
                        +1
                        The United States carries the bulk of its spending on NATO in Europe. It's true.
                        The whole world is financing the USA. And this is also true.
                        Everyone who buys another dollar at an exchange office invests in the economy of this world leech.

                        Trump suggests reimbursing US military spending? How to exchange external dollars for gold? They are even different, internal and external dollars. And it is FORBIDDEN to import external dollars into the territory of the USA. That is, Americans directly declare - we will suck juices from you, and we are not going to pay.
                  2. igorj 51
                    igorj 51 10 November 2018 14: 13
                    +1
                    Not so long ago, one writer - a historian from Russia on the program "60 minutes" generally suggested dropping an atomic bomb on Kiev. Also, without even thinking about the fact that there are children, there are Stark women. Only because he does not like the regime in Ukraine. And then no one condemned him, and was not indignant .. And after that, even in Russia, they are outraged that they are hated in the West and called aggressors.
                    1. LSA57
                      LSA57 10 November 2018 15: 47
                      +2
                      Quote: igorj 51
                      And after that, even in Russia they are outraged that they are hated in the West and called aggressors.

                      Well, for one member, they do not judge society.
                      although there is a saying about a sheep and a herd.
                      so in fact in the west they think that we are poisoning people with "newcomers". believe that we use chlorine in Syria.
                      they will always find what to come up with so that hatred of Russia will not fade
                    2. svp67
                      svp67 12 November 2018 07: 29
                      0
                      Quote: igorj 51
                      Not so long ago, one writer - a historian from Russia on the program "60 minutes" generally suggested dropping an atomic bomb on Kiev. Also, without even thinking about the fact that there are children, there are Stark women.

                      You clearly have a poor understanding of the Russian language. He did not propose, but asked the question, that if Russia is really FOUR YEARS already at war with Ukraine and cannot do anything with it, according to Ukrainians, then why has Russia still not used nuclear weapons to turn the tide?
                  3. Setrac
                    Setrac 10 November 2018 16: 24
                    0
                    Quote: NEXUS
                    just like on Hiroshima

                    If others can, then why not?
                    Quote: NEXUS
                    Cool generally joke-take a fuck at the peaceful cities of France ...

                    And Russia will not be anything for it.
                    1. NEXUS
                      NEXUS 10 November 2018 16: 27
                      +1
                      Quote: Setrac
                      And Russia will not be anything for it.

                      In the Russian doctrine, in black, in Russian, it is written about a RESPONSE-MEETING strike, not a preventive one.
                      1. Setrac
                        Setrac 10 November 2018 16: 34
                        +1
                        Quote: NEXUS
                        In the Russian doctrine, in black, in Russian, it is written about a RESPONSE-MEETING strike, not a preventive one.

                        Well, what can I say? Lucky the French ...
              2. Proxima
                Proxima 10 November 2018 13: 45
                +5
                Quote: NEXUS
                Quote: Piramidon
                Andrei, as I understand it, this is Mikhail’s humor.

                To humor on the subject - the whole world is in ruins, and I Dartanyan, sorry Stepan can only be a narrow-minded person. Already excuse me for being blunt. I was at war and I know what it is. And believe me, there is nothing funny. The French also have children, women and the elderly. When you see the death of a child from a land mine, you look and evaluate everything in a completely different way.
                So put a smile here or don’t put, not the point. Sometimes you just need to turn on your head.
                Sorry for the broken dishes. hi

                Yes calm down dear! What are you carrying? And does the hedgehog understand that a person is humorous or haven’t departed from Friday yet? belay
                1. NEXUS
                  NEXUS 10 November 2018 13: 47
                  -1
                  Quote: Proxima
                  What are you carrying?

                  Exactly ... what are you talking about?
                  Quote: Proxima
                  And the hedgehog is clear that a person is humorous

                  If you have such humor, tell the people of Nagasaki about it ... I think you will laugh together amicably.
                  Quote: Proxima
                  or haven’t departed from Friday yet?

                  Don't judge people by yourself. Yeah.
                  1. Proxima
                    Proxima 10 November 2018 13: 55
                    +1
                    Quote: NEXUS
                    Quote: Proxima
                    What are you carrying?

                    Exactly ... what are you talking about?
                    Quote: Proxima
                    And the hedgehog is clear that a person is humorous

                    If you have such humor, tell the people of Nagasaki about it ... I think you will laugh together amicably.
                    Quote: Proxima
                    or haven’t departed from Friday yet?

                    Don't judge people by yourself. Yeah.

                    What is Nagasaki ?? !!! belay Like a squirrel ....
                    1. NEXUS
                      NEXUS 10 November 2018 13: 57
                      0
                      Quote: Proxima
                      What is Nagasaki ?? !!!

                      You joke about "fucking around the peaceful cities of France" ... but Nagasaki is not the same thing? No?
                      Here is your quote ...
                      Quote: Pereira
                      Isn’t it time to bomb France?

                      So who is under the bastard?
                  2. Setrac
                    Setrac 10 November 2018 16: 27
                    +4
                    Quote: NEXUS
                    If you have such humor, tell the people of Nagasaki about it ... I think you will laugh together amicably.

                    Why don't you want to tell the children of Libya, Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia, Zaire, Lebanon? Why can their cities be bombed and French not?
                    Together we neigh.
                    1. NEXUS
                      NEXUS 10 November 2018 16: 31
                      +2
                      Quote: Setrac
                      Why don't you want to tell the children of Libya, Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia, Zaire, Lebanon?

                      I don’t write about bombing peaceful cities in general. This is nonsense. And for me there is no difference which cities they are, Algeria, Morocco or France. Leveling up peaceful cities is not about Russia. This is a feature of the United States, which has done this more than 70 years.
                      Quote: Setrac
                      Why can their cities be bombed and French not?

                      Do not distort my words.
                      1. Setrac
                        Setrac 10 November 2018 16: 36
                        +1
                        Quote: NEXUS
                        I don’t write about bombing peaceful cities in general. This is nonsense. And for me there is no difference which cities they are, Algeria, Morocco or France.

                        However, you defend a criminal country that bombed other cities.
                        Quote: NEXUS
                        Landing peaceful cities is not about Russia.

                        If others can, why can't we? Before banning Russia-ban the same NATO.
                      2. NEXUS
                        NEXUS 10 November 2018 16: 39
                        +2
                        Quote: Setrac
                        However, you defend a criminal country that bombed other cities.

                        I defend a minder who lives in these cities. Do you understand the difference between the concepts of elites and government of the state and people?
                        Quote: Setrac
                        If others can, why can't we?

                        You tell Shoigu, yeah ...
                      3. Setrac
                        Setrac 10 November 2018 16: 52
                        +1
                        Quote: NEXUS
                        I defend a minder who lives in these cities. Do you understand the difference between the concepts of elites and government of the state and people?

                        There is no difference, there is no "peace man". I will note that in 1941, it was not Hitler or Mussolini who came to the USSR to kill, but that very "peace man" who they also like to call "ordinary German (Italian, Romanian, etc., etc.) guys who allegedly neither And when a new war begins against us to kill no children, women, old people, the same "peace man" will come, not Trump or Merkel. This very "peace man" is their fault that they are stupid scoundrels who carry out criminal orders their governments.
              3. Setrac
                Setrac 10 November 2018 16: 22
                +3
                Quote: NEXUS
                The French also have children, women and the elderly.

                Children who grow up and become enemies and will kill Russians, women who give birth to our murderers, old people who were recently young and also killed, do not feel sorry for any of them.
                Quote: NEXUS
                When you see the death of a child from a land mine, you look and evaluate everything in a completely different way.

                Literally one hundred and fifty years ago, infant mortality reached 70 percent. But what about the children of Yugoslavia, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Korea? Why don't you feel sorry for the children, women and old people of Libya? Do you think that the children of women and the elderly in France are "smoother" than the rest?
                Quote: NEXUS
                I was at war and I know what it is. And believe me, there is nothing funny.

                Note that it is not we who unleash wars, your claims are unfounded! Or are you one of those who are ready to surrender all our interests "if only there was no war"? So it will still be.
                Quote: NEXUS
                Sometimes you just need to turn on your head.

                If Washington "does not want to turn on the head, why should Russia do this? We cannot" turn on the head "for them.
                1. NEXUS
                  NEXUS 10 November 2018 16: 34
                  +1
                  Quote: Setrac
                  If Washington doesn’t want to turn on the head, why should Russia do it?

                  That is, likened to the downs of Washington?
                  Quote: Setrac
                  Or are you one of those who are ready to surrender all our interests "if only there was no war"?

                  This is respected by Chubais, Gorbachev and others like them ...
          2. Konstantin Shevchenko
            Konstantin Shevchenko 10 November 2018 14: 04
            +2
            This is actually Pereira’s sarcasm.
            1. Proxima
              Proxima 10 November 2018 14: 26
              +3
              Quote: Konstantin Shevchenko
              This is actually Pereira’s sarcasm.

              Dear Konstantin! Here a person will drink at least one hundred grams and naturally will not drive for well-known reasons, and then a complete squirrel and a comp. Klava and forum users will endure everything ...
              1. Konstantin Shevchenko
                Konstantin Shevchenko 10 November 2018 20: 23
                +1
                There is some truth in every joke. Yes, the French are not so white, fluffy. Western Europeans tell the results as one in anticipation of hacienda, pitchfork and slaves. For 2000 years, or maybe more, nothing has changed, like sewn into the genes. Pereira recalled the bloody actions of Sarkozy and the wild cries of the "democrats". It is a fact, it was.
          3. Boa kaa
            Boa kaa 10 November 2018 14: 07
            +3
            Quote: NEXUS
            To make it easier for you, I’ll say that if a country pays over 2% of the budget to the defense industry, then it is de facto at war.

            Andrew, hello! hi
            However, you once again "skidded!"
            1. Do not confuse the process of militarization of the country (economy, political life, ideology, etc.) with budget (financial) expenses.
            2. Finance and politics (albeit very closely related categories) are, after all, different things.
            3. Finding a country in a state of war is the essence of a legal category that also has little in common with the first two.
            Example. "Strange War" on the Western Front at the beginning of 39.
            4. When choosing criteria (quantitative!), You need to be very careful about the "digits" ...
            Your 2% is not about anything! Let me remind you that “Until the 90s, the level of militarization of the world economy was characterized as high (4,2% in 1998), and then gradually decreased ... The level of the indicator in question in the United States and European countries now fluctuates between 1-4%. " - but none of them are "at war." So call me!
            But.
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 10 November 2018 14: 15
              +1
              Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
              The level of this indicator in the USA and European countries now fluctuates at the level of 1-4%. "- but none of them is in a" state of war. "So, call me!
              But.

              Hello Sasha. hi
              I'm not sorry. Since there is a buildup of weapons around the world and in the face of obvious militarization. And now we look at what is happening in Europe on this issue. Missile defense systems, radar, aviation, armored vehicles and so on is your way from the most peaceful motives.
              2% is the border after which the state is de facto at war. And do not think that if bombs do not fall and shells do not burst, then there is no war.
              The war is going on without stopping from 28 July 1914 g, or rather even earlier. And it doesn’t matter whether it’s cold or hot ... so in this case, I haven’t drifted anywhere, friend.
              1. Boa kaa
                Boa kaa 10 November 2018 15: 24
                +2
                Quote: NEXUS
                And do not think that if bombs do not fall and shells do not burst, then there is no war.

                Andrey, dear, we are not at the rally! And if the dispute is principled, then scientific arguments and facts are needed. The criterion for the militarization of the economy is the share of GDP spent on preparations for war (defense). 2% - peacetime level. It's not even a "church tithe"!
                The second question is the transfer of the economy to a war footing. (You probably remember: "Everything for the front! Everything for Victory!").
                Further. The militarization of the ideological sphere, the clamping of political freedoms, etc. The adoption of the laws of war ...
                Where is all this? Yes, rearmament is ongoing in many countries, new types and models of MBT are being created. But this is all at the level of everyday life ...
                We have not even seen intelligence signs of preparation for aggression ..
                And you are talking about WAR. XV 2.0 it can be any la la la. Until the guns speak, there is virtually no WAR (as a special state of society), even if it is declared de jure. There still is no peace treaty with Japan ... So what? are we at war with them? Do people die, material values ​​are destroyed, territories are seized?
                Therefore ... decide on definitions and let's look at things from a scientific point of view, and not from a collective-farm cooperative!
                IMHO.
          4. vredlo
            vredlo 11 November 2018 20: 47
            0
            Quote: Pereira
            Isn’t it time to bomb France?
            Macron's bloody regime must be overthrown.

            Well, it’s a banter, regarding the love of Amers, to declare an evil empire to everyone who has something against them, and vice versa, if it’s their bastards, then they are white and fluffy and don’t mourn, you think the Saudis killed the journalist at the embassy, ​​who doesn’t happen to be, but imagine in their place the Chinese or we would stink up to heaven
        3. Piramidon
          Piramidon 10 November 2018 13: 07
          +4
          Quote: Pereira
          Isn’t it time to bomb France?
          Macron's bloody regime must be overthrown.

          Well, at least you have attached a smiley, and then some here think that you are in all seriousness suggesting to drop a vigorous loaf on Paris. The Nexus has already responded. hi
      2. LSA57
        LSA57 10 November 2018 12: 58
        +8
        Quote: Bearded
        Trump acts like a racketeer.

    2. Detective
      Detective 10 November 2018 13: 13
      +1
      Very characteristic expression of Trump's face characterizing the very meaning of creating a European army! I support Donald Fredericovich! Of course, let them reimburse. And let Russia be reimbursed as the assignee of the USSR! Especially eastern Europe. All these Pole-Bulgarians! For liberation from fascism and the subsequent free and satisfying life in the socialist camp at the expense of the USSR! Accustomed, too, on someone else's hump to enter paradise! Donald Fredericovich, I categorically support you! Before you fight with Russia and China (all the same, after all, they will run away looking for them later ...) let our money be given back to you - IMMEDIATELY!
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 10 November 2018 13: 27
        +1
        Quote: Detective
        And let Russia be reimbursed as the assignee of the USSR! Especially eastern Europe.

        It was not necessary to remove the military contingent from Eastern Europe, so as not to talk about compensation later. Yeah. Thanks to Tagged Judah.

        Quote: Detective
        For liberation from fascism and the subsequent free and satisfying life in the socialist camp at the expense of the USSR!

        For us and adequate people, this was liberation, and for the top of the European countries now in power, it was occupation.
        1. Detective
          Detective 10 November 2018 13: 43
          +3
          Quote: NEXUS
          It was not necessary to remove the military contingent from Eastern Europe, so as not to talk about compensation later. Yeah. Thanks to Tagged Judah.

          Of course there was no need to clean! And it was not necessary for them to make such generous gifts for decades at the expense of the Soviet and, above all, the Russian people! Restore almost entirely at the expense of the USSR their national economy, give them enterprises and other high-tech facilities, supply energy resources below market prices, and buy their consumer goods at market prices, etc. A lot of things were not necessary, but it was necessary first of all to respect your people! Now open statistics on annual dollar subsidies from the USSR to these countries! You’re downloading ... But Gorbachev wasn’t alone ... You probably know all these names yourself? But there were also enthusiastic Gorbachevites in the district committees, regional committees, regional committees ... And the Union republics?
          1. beeper
            beeper 10 November 2018 14: 20
            +1
            hi I fully support, comrade Detective, that what gets for nothing is not appreciated, we observe it after the fact! But how many good things for the Soviet people and their country could have been accomplished by the old men from the Gerontoburo of the Central Committee of the CPSU for these colossal funds, seized from Soviet workers and "donated for the cordon" without request, we would have had a completely different life and such a Soviet Union would not collapsed, the people would have stood up as a wall to protect him! However, one involuntarily suggests itself "associations" with the present winked .
            Once, in his commentary, he wrote practically the same thing about the DEPRECIOUS absence of the Soviet regime, from top to bottom, real, in practice (and not declarative!), Respect for their own fellow citizens, but met only outrage ... smile
            1. Detective
              Detective 10 November 2018 15: 47
              +1
              Quote: pishchak
              Once, in his commentary, he wrote practically the same thing about the DEPRECIOUS absence of the Soviet regime, from top to bottom, real, in practice (and not declarative!), Respect for their own fellow citizens, but met only outrage ...

              Well, this is understandable - the specifics of the resource! What are you surprised at? This is normal. Regarding absolutely royal gifts, one must remember here from the Comintern that was subsequently transformed into Cominform and further into CMEA. About this, few people now know and speak, and many do not want to just talk. There is such an eruption - see the root! And the root of all this goodness was not Russia, but the world revolution at the expense of Russia. Well, all sorts of dear English miners and the other German advanced proletariat. Here, at the beginning, truly colossal means were swelled ... Further, of course, the advanced liberation movements of the countries of Africa and Latin America! The USSR bred dependents and of course, when the Lafa ended, they were very upset all right to complete Russophobia! Well, now, some kind of Latin ... mmmmm ... a woman on American TV in the political talk show Trump calls a Russian pig !!! Probably a revolutionary too ...
              1. Sergej1972
                Sergej1972 10 November 2018 20: 32
                0
                Cominform and CMEA are two different operas. CMEA was created before the dissolution of Cominform. CMEA is an interstate structure, and Cominform is an association of the CPSU (B.), The Communist Parties of the European socialist countries and the Communist Parties of Italy and France.
          2. LSA57
            LSA57 10 November 2018 15: 52
            +1
            Quote: Detective
            But Gorbachev was not alone ...

            do you think this was not before Gorbachev? yes "dear and beloved" has given so many things ...
    3. Russobel
      Russobel 10 November 2018 18: 30
      0
      To offended him under the bunk ...
  2. Svarog
    Svarog 10 November 2018 12: 27
    +4
    Very predictable reaction ..
    1. A good one
      A good one 10 November 2018 12: 42
      +6
      Now there will be girls to whom Macron once molested in the doorways and hotel rooms, or maybe did not molest for various reasons. smile
    2. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 10 November 2018 14: 32
      +1
      Quote: Svarog
      Very predictable reaction ..

      As colleague Syshchik (Igor) put it here, - Donald Fredericovich fell in love because the French president was going to protect Europe not only from Russia and China, but (and who would have thought such a thing!) from the USA !!!! The light of democracy and its global peddler !!! laughing
      And therefore - money for a barrel! Otherwise, we will never remove our bases and military facilities from Europe! Truth is, there are still dedicated pano-lackeys who demand (!) That the Yankees urgently build Fort Trump on their territory. They are even willing to pay the owner for it! But then the neophytes, "the hyena of Europe" ...
      But the old European democracies, after the Chief Cowboy's demarches, began to treat the "overseas benefactors" differently ... yes
      ("Oooooooooooooooooooooooo! am
      Therefore - get ready to pay !!! We need to pay off our national debt! sad 21 trillion dollars somewhere to scrape together! recourse "- from unpublished Trump's twitter)
  3. Naughty
    Naughty 10 November 2018 12: 27
    +4
    Macroche will get. For such statements I think. Will get to the fullest. HAPPY everyone is doing so that this army is not there. But Emmik didn’t talk about the topic laughing
    1. ltc35
      ltc35 10 November 2018 13: 08
      +1
      The creation of an army is the path to independence. And Russia and China are a convenient reason to run away from the owner and pursue an independent policy. So, let the girls understand themselves!
    2. Sergey39
      Sergey39 10 November 2018 13: 31
      0
      Will get at the rate of the role played.
      The whole world is a performance
    3. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 10 November 2018 13: 49
      +2

      Quote: Vzdrincher
      Macroche will get. For such statements I think. Will get to the fullest. HAPPY everyone is doing so that this army is not there. But Emmik didn’t talk about the topic laughing


      In Europe, it’s enough to show the USA fig to such countries as Germany and France, so that the United States buries in its bill of rights:
      It was forbidden in peacetime to stand soldiers in private homes without the consent of their owners

      It does not seem that after 1945 these guests lingered? They are at the door, they are at the window ...
  4. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 10 November 2018 12: 35
    +2
    angry The next step will be the eternal ban for Macoron in the tram-pam-pamov account and the sudden accident of a paddling pool /// will turn up his neck when playing dominoes, for example .... ///. And the galls will have to elect a new leader .... maybe African American ...? Why are they being pinched? angry
  5. Tarasve
    Tarasve 10 November 2018 12: 36
    +2
    Europe is occupied by the USA and now it has begun to reach them.
    1. kjhg
      kjhg 10 November 2018 12: 53
      +2
      Quote: TarasVE
      Europe is occupied by the USA

      If you follow your logic to the end, then the USSR from 1945 to 1990 occupied Eastern Europe? Or just we freed, and the US occupied?
      Quote: TarasVE
      and now it’s beginning to reach them
      Yes, this did not begin to reach them, not at all. Europe would be glad to continue to be under the protection of the United States, but America has ceased to be a predictable, reliable protection. Trump began to bill for security. And now it has completely withdrawn from the treaty on intermediate- and shorter-range missiles, which puts Europe before the opportunity to become a bargaining chip or even a victim of the confrontation between the United States and Russia.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 10 November 2018 13: 10
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        Quote: kjhg
        If you follow your logic to the end, then did the USSR occupy Eastern Europe from 1945 to 1990?

        The USSR held its military contingent in Europe according to the results and as the main winner of the Third Reich. At the same time, for 70 years of the Union’s existence in Europe, there was no war from the word at all.
        And the same Warsaw Pact was created in response to the creation of NATO.
        Quote: kjhg
        Or just we freed, and the US occupied?

        Estimate it that way. Answer me, and where did most of the command of Abwehr and the SS go after the war?
        Quote: kjhg
        which puts Europe in front of the opportunity to become a bargaining chip or even a victim of the confrontation between the United States and Russia.

        If European leaders have compost instead of brains, they don’t need to blame us or the USA. This scenario was ash at the very moment when NATO moved to our borders. And Europe joyfully welcomed all this while Russia lay in ruins and essentially died. But everything has changed, and now Europeans are not very comfortable. So let yourself be blamed for your idiocy.
        1. LSA57
          LSA57 10 November 2018 13: 25
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          Quote: NEXUS
          and where did most of the command of Abwehr and the SS go after the war?

          can add. And where did the gold currency reserve of Germany go?
          only occupiers do this
          1. kjhg
            kjhg 10 November 2018 13: 32
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            Quote: LSA57
            can add. And where did the gold currency reserve of Germany go?

            And where did the democrats share the gold of the party when they came to power in 1991? Where did the $ 4 billion allocated by the IMF in 1998 to prevent default go?
            Quote: LSA57
            only occupiers do this
            yes
        2. kjhg
          kjhg 10 November 2018 13: 36
          +1
          Quote: NEXUS
          Quote: kjhg
          Or just we freed, and the US occupied?

          Estimate it that way.

          I’m certainly not an American attorney, but when you write this, you look exactly like the Baltic or Polish politicians who demand compensation for damages during the years of the Soviet occupation.
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 10 November 2018 13: 39
            +1
            Quote: kjhg
            which require payment of damages for the years of the Soviet occupation.

            And now we read it thoughtfully ..
            Quote: NEXUS
            The USSR held its military contingent in Europe according to the results and as the main winner of the Third Reich.

            We didn’t attack Europe in 41, dear.
            1. kjhg
              kjhg 10 November 2018 13: 46
              +1
              Quote: NEXUS

              We didn’t attack Europe in 41, dear.

              This is undeniable! But did America attack Europe in '44?
              1. NEXUS
                NEXUS 10 November 2018 13: 50
                +1
                Quote: kjhg
                But did America attack Europe in 44?

                The United States, as always, came to the event last, and took off all the cream, as the USSR did all the dirty work. And by and large, the US occupation of Europe is the truth. It is the occupation. But not a single Western politician will even give a hint about this.
              2. LSA57
                LSA57 10 November 2018 16: 03
                +1
                Quote: kjhg
                This is undeniable! But did America attack Europe in '44?

                what part of Europe the United States freed with allies and which USSR. why didn’t they release her until she was 44? ah, they fought in Africa. ah, they fought with Japan. only now, while Our army did not gouge the Kwantung army, the Japanese did not request surrender
              3. Setrac
                Setrac 10 November 2018 16: 31
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                Quote: kjhg
                This is undeniable! But did America attack Europe in '44?

                I wonder who the United States attacked in 1944? Isn't Italy Europe? Or is the Third Reich not Europe?
                This is exactly the reality, the USA attacked Europe, and the USSR did not attack Japan, contrary to enemy propaganda, Manchuria is not Japan.
  6. Starikan-m
    Starikan-m 10 November 2018 12: 39
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    Macron jerk, PR cardboard duril flying over Paris ..)))
    Was he going to create an army? wassat In Europe, only two armies of Russia and the USA! soldier
    All other mongrels ..
  7. fruit_cake
    fruit_cake 10 November 2018 12: 54
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    protection from china? why not from aliens and zombies then already?
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 10 November 2018 14: 51
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      protection from china?

      This Macrosha got excited, playing along with Donald ... yes
      In order for the European Army to confront the PLA, you need to have a common border. Well, like Finnish-Chinese ... or Polish-Chinese ...
      I just don’t understand: where is the French Emmanuel Rosiyu doing? It seems like there is enough nuclear stock for the whole world, not only the USA + NATO is enough ... And here is such an indiscretion ... Fi! tongue
  8. Operator
    Operator 10 November 2018 13: 06
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    Macron clearly did not study geography at school - where is Europe and where is China. And at the same time, the United States threw not childishly. But what else to expect from sodomite.

    Where Europe is heading - is it really there. (ass)? laughing
  9. Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 10 November 2018 13: 15
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    At the same time, Trump did not forget to remind Macron that most of the costs of maintaining the armed forces of the North Atlantic Alliance are borne by the United States, and before declaring the creation of its army, Europe must reimburse all American expenses spent on its defense.
    Here it’s just right for the Europeans themselves to roll out the ball to the mattresses so that they would pay the damage to Europe that was formed during the American occupation.
  10. askort154
    askort154 10 November 2018 13: 35
    +1
    "... French President Emmanuel Macron previously proposed the creation of a pan-European army, which will not be subordinate to NATO and the United States, to protect a united Europe not only from the Russian and Chinese threats, but also from the United States, including in cyberspace. "


    The idea of ​​creating a "common European army" has long been walking in the "smoking rooms" of the EU.
    But! Anglo-Saxons looked at it as the fun of children in the sandbox.
    Now that the President of France issued - " ... and from the United States .. ", -
    Macron signed a sentence. In Europe, one is not a warrior in the field, already there were: De Gaulle,
    Meloshevich, Schroeder, Birlusconi, Citrius. All the horns were broken off. A new, youngest, ambitious president of Austria appeared, who reached out to Russia, but
    he was immediately placed in the "corner". In your country, a 70-year-old traitor who works for aggressive Russia roams freely, and you arrange show weddings with her ?!
    And the "young" quickly retreated. He canceled the trip of the "Foreign Ministry bride" to Russia, stating - "we need to figure it out." Nothing new. The Anglo-Saxons stubbornly follow their century-old well-trodden path: - blackmail, bribery, "color revolutions", military coups, open war. And only Russia has always ruined their plans.
  11. APASUS
    APASUS 10 November 2018 13: 42
    +1
    As I understand it, Macron in France, human rights activists from the USA, will now find not enough democracy, infringement of the rights of gays and other LGBT parties? Americans do not forgive lunges at their own expense, the story of the former head of the IMF Strauss-Kahn in confirmation.
  12. Ros 56
    Ros 56 10 November 2018 13: 53
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    And he shook off dandruff from Macaron, well, Macaron avenged him, it’s nice to be called a slut all over the world. Even then, in the expression on the face of Macaron, I thought, well, he will remember Trump. That's all they have, today they kiss on the gums, and tomorrow they will plant a peak under the rib, because it is profitable. As you can’t remember K. Marx, there was a clever girl.
  13. Rider
    Rider 10 November 2018 13: 57
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    Trump is indignant just for the look of it.
  14. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 10 November 2018 13: 57
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    When the French were occupied by other fascists in the 40s they didn’t hobble, they completely blossomed am
  15. gsev
    gsev 10 November 2018 14: 03
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    It seems that Europe is beginning to understand that after the PRC, Russia and Muslims, their turn will come.
  16. lopvlad
    lopvlad 10 November 2018 14: 13
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    Trump insulted Macron's proposal to create a European army


    Naturally, so as not to be offended when your sixes conceived something on their own, the more so to slip out of your control. Nothing, Trump will quickly stand up to them. Here they already bent Austria and quickly found a Russian spy there. Europe is a USA slave shed where white is sometimes visited Mr. what to bend those who suddenly try to fight back.
  17. beeper
    beeper 10 November 2018 14: 31
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    "Uncle Doni" clearly stated his intentions to put all the euro "outlaws" on the Washington "counter", and "Little Macron" will arrange a "demonstrative whipping" for his "daring speeches" ?! smile
  18. svp67
    svp67 10 November 2018 15: 05
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    Trump insulted Macron's proposal to create a European army
    It’s also offended, it’s money that can pass by
  19. rocket757
    rocket757 10 November 2018 16: 02
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    Offended! He drove by the finger, ruffled the feathers for him, and he, the ungrateful oo-oo, take away your toys, nasty, and chase the denyushki for .... yes for everything that I say!
  20. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 10 November 2018 16: 59
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    Macron with his grandmother - "Matrona Macronicha" is running ahead of the steam engine everywhere.
  21. Lara Croft
    Lara Croft 10 November 2018 18: 05
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    French President Macron's proposal to create their own armed forces in Europe to defend against Russia, China and the USA

    a reasonable decision ... the basis of the pan-European army should be the strongest army on the continent with experience in building the Egyptian pyramids and the creation of the Black Sea ...
  22. gorenina91
    gorenina91 10 November 2018 18: 27
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    - Macron's words do not mean anything .... - tomorrow he will "turn 180 degrees" ...
  23. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 10 November 2018 21: 05
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    Macron has not been shaken for a long time. You need to repeat.
  24. mmk
    mmk 10 November 2018 22: 16
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    It is understandable, they have a military common fund (NATO), and if they create their own, then it is likely that they will have to drag the strap of the block themselves.
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  26. ochakow703
    ochakow703 12 November 2018 11: 52
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    Why is that offended? If they contain NATO, not only in order to defend anyone, but in order to put pressure on those who have been deployed, but to threaten Russia with a fist from European bushes. Europeans need to be courageous and say out loud - Yankees go home to America! Only where to get it - this courage ...
  27. Tutejszy
    Tutejszy 12 November 2018 15: 48
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    Before declaring the creation of its army, Europe needs to reimburse all American expenses spent on its defense.


    Allied War (357–355 BC) - the war between Athens (hegemon formed in 378 BC. Second Athenian Maritime Union) and a number of former members of this union.
    Background of war: "After the collapse of the Peloponnesian Union and the weakening of Thebes after the Battle of Mantinea, the only major political force in Greece was the Second Athenian Maritime Union. The main goal of uniting the cities in the Second Athenian Maritime Union - ousting Sparta from the sea - was accomplished, and the Spartans, defeated at sea and on land, they no longer represented any danger, therefore the need for a union has disappeared. However, without seeing any serious opponents, Athens decided to resume their policy aimed at strengthening the influence of Athens in Greece. Having again begun to consider its allies not as partners, but as subjects, Athens demanded that the Allies increase their fees and began to extend the laws of their policy to lawsuits of the Allies.

    Does it remind you anything closer in time?