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Reuters claims: privatization of Rosneft by Qatar QIA went to the money of the Russian Federation

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Information Agency to Reutersreferring to some anonymous sources, it issues material in which it is alleged that the privatization of part of the Rosneft asset package was allegedly carried out, including with Russian state funds. We are talking about the acquisition of a Qatari investment fund (QIA) and the Swiss Glencore 19% stake in an oil company in the Russian Federation. So, QIA Qatari Fund eventually became the owners of 14,16% of Rosneft shares.




On the situation with reference to Reuters tells RBC. It is stated (with reference to those unnamed sources, “who wished to remain anonymous) that the transaction was allegedly financed by foreign companies only partially.

From the agency’s material: “The transaction was financed by VTB Bank, which issued QIA 6 billions in loans.”

VTB itself stated that the bank did not allocate any loans to the Qatari investment fund. But the “unnamed sources” of the Western news agency insist that the Russian bank itself took out a loan from the Central Bank of the Russian Federation in the amount of 350 billion rubles, and in subsequent reports indicated that it lent 6,7 billion to foreign borrowers for a three-year period. About who these borrowers are not reported.

Reuters stated that this was done in order to convince Qataris of the expediency of the transaction, which they initially refused to conduct.

From agency material:
Lending for the purchase of a stake in Rosneft was carried out contrary to the stated goal of attracting foreign money to Russia. The main part of financing is Russian capital.


RBC cites a statement by the head of the Rosneft press service, Mikhail Leontyev, on this issue:
The company is not responsible for negotiating its customers with banks on the terms of the loan transaction.

It seems that these materials were published in connection with the pressure of the West on those financial organizations that have decided to ignore sanctions, and to make deals with state-owned companies in Russia. QIA also needed an alibi - allegedly we were buying a stake in Rosneft, but Russia itself financed the purchase.

At the same time, the fact remains: the practice of informational strikes in Russia with references to “unnamed” and “newsmakers who wish to remain unknown” or pseudo-newsmakers by the West will be clearly preserved.
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  1. Machito
    Machito 10 November 2018 09: 20
    0
    Nothing personal just business. Qatar has to make excuses for wanting to make money. But the mattresses are cooperating in full with the Saudis who commit political killings in other countries. Ten standard.
    1. Herald of the Revolution
      Herald of the Revolution 10 November 2018 10: 14
      -4
      Quote: Bearded
      But the mattresses are cooperating in full with the Saudis who commit political killings in other countries.

      Well, Russia is just waiting for the states to impose sanctions on them so that they then run to buy weapons from us. So whose cow would mumble hi
      1. Sergey39
        Sergey39 10 November 2018 10: 23
        0
        What did you want? So that Russia sells its assets for some Qatari Tugriks?
        1. Random
          Random 10 November 2018 13: 56
          +1
          Quote: Sergey39
          What did you want? So that Russia sells its assets for some Qatari Tugriks?

          Quote: Ros 56
          all the more so, it is driving RBC a wave, there the gobbled liberals mixed with normal ones.

          Well, they really can't "put" everything on the "air" .. " wassat bully
          Remember the publication about the "cruiser" "Olga", but about the article about the "cruiser" "Alisher"? Do you know the result?
          so guys are just hinting at ..... "fat circumstances" lol
          And everyone knows perfectly well what this ... "scheme" wassat
          Take a pencil yourself and draw with the names- who gave, to whom they paid for and where the money returned ..... everything is just like .... the first snow in winter fellow
      2. Nick_R
        Nick_R 10 November 2018 13: 26
        +5
        Rosneft was "privatized" for the money of our own state (Central Bank), but Sechin reported to Putin on the successful implementation of the order, for which he received a prize and an order for and also imprisoned Ulyukaev along the way. And who is the swindler here?
  2. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 10 November 2018 09: 21
    +6
    Investments, investments ... They repeat like a mantra ... And the "stabilization fund" themselves are inflating ... Something is not right with the "Klyuchniks" of our kingdom. Maybe with your head? wassat
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 10 November 2018 09: 58
      +7
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      ... Something is wrong with the "Keymakers" of our kingdom. Maybe with your head?

      And with a head and with a conscience they do not fret ..
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 10 November 2018 10: 24
      0
      And let the stabilization fund inflate, at least up to 20 trillion rubles - in case of new world crises and natural disasters like the summer of 2010.
      1. Piramidon
        Piramidon 10 November 2018 12: 59
        +5
        Quote: Vadim237
        And let the stabilization fund inflate, at least up to 20 trillion rubles

        Already how many times they inflated, inflated, and then suddenly a bang and it’s empty, no one knows where everything has gone - "there is no money, but ..."
        in case of new world crises and natural disasters like summer 2010

        According to the Siluanov-Nabiullins, this "crisis" has not stopped in our country since the 90s, having become a normal everyday occurrence. Thus, they are trying to hang vermicelli on the ears of the electorate, like - since there is a crisis, then don’t blather, we will not invest in the social sector, say thank you for giving.
    3. Ivan Ivanov
      Ivan Ivanov 10 November 2018 14: 21
      +4
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Investments, investments ... As the mantra is repeated ...

      The usual liberal economy: we drive inflation, wait for investors, collect taxes and a pillow in case the investor comes around. If someone else believes that Putin is a socialist, this is not so, obviously. The trouble is that we do not have the right to develop our own economy for the proceeds from oil: according to Khazin, he, working in the EBN apparatus, personally held a paper in his hands with this obligation. Truth on the conscience of Khazin, but judging by the economy - it seems.
  3. arhPavel
    arhPavel 10 November 2018 09: 24
    -1
    Normally, they did not allow foreigners to redeem.
    Good news. So the money would be completely withdrawn from the country, and that loan should be given, but under the sanctions, some :) so that more than half will remain in Russia for sure.
    1. Nick_R
      Nick_R 10 November 2018 13: 30
      +4
      Normally, they did not allow foreigners to redeem.

      You read carefully, the Qatari fund bought our Rosneft by borrowing money from us. These are the foreign "investments".
  4. Naughty
    Naughty 10 November 2018 09: 26
    +1
    Quote: arhPavel
    Normally, they did not allow foreigners to redeem.
    Good news. So the money would be completely withdrawn from the country, and that loan should be given, but under the sanctions, some :) so that more than half will remain in Russia for sure.

    And it would be nice to EVERYTHING! our People’s left
    1. 210ox
      210ox 10 November 2018 09: 42
      +14
      Yeah .. "Ours is with you" is the price of gasoline ..
    2. Bull Terrier
      Bull Terrier 10 November 2018 10: 40
      -2
      This mantra is for children. Ours has always been and will be what we earn.
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 10 November 2018 11: 31
        0
        And save it. )))
        1. Bull Terrier
          Bull Terrier 10 November 2018 13: 19
          -1
          Exactly))) save is also something else))) not everyone comes out)
      2. 210ox
        210ox 10 November 2018 11: 36
        +6
        And this too. More precisely, that which will give us money. The owners of life.
        1. Bull Terrier
          Bull Terrier 10 November 2018 13: 18
          -4
          Will give? Yes, it seems there is no interference for this. The main tenacity.
          1. Stas157
            Stas157 10 November 2018 14: 00
            +5
            Quote: Bull Terrier
            Will give? Yes, it seems there is no interference for this. Main tenacity.

            If the janitor stubbornly starts waving his broom, will he get rich right away? And so in everything! The owners of life will not let you earn more. That's why they and the owners, in order to take more for themselves, and leave the rest only for food.
            A fresh video about how people work more and more and get less and less. Strike "persistent"in Kamchatka:
            1. Bull Terrier
              Bull Terrier 10 November 2018 16: 55
              -7
              You know. If your dream is a janitor, then I'm sorry. Who takes what from you ?! Sitting ass freeze on a low-paying job is this fetish ??? What prevents better find? All the time, someone bothers ... straight plot
        2. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 10 November 2018 13: 33
          0
          Why ask them? )))
  5. newcomer
    newcomer 10 November 2018 09: 29
    0
    even more than that, tactics of informudar across the Russian Federation using “unnamed sources”, or “there are docks, but we won’t show you”, and just “high-likeli” over time will be more sophisticated. and bring their people / electorate to the point that they will soon begin to harass simply by denying the existence of the state of the Russian Federation. after all, and so, a large mass of their meat is sure that we have winter all year round, drunk bears roam with the same peasants.
    1. Arikkhab
      Arikkhab 10 November 2018 10: 01
      +3
      Most of the world's population does not care about the Russian Federation ... Moreover, a significant part does not know where the Russian Federation is located on the map.
      And inform blows from two sides they pursue the same goals
      1. newcomer
        newcomer 10 November 2018 10: 26
        0
        then explain the idea of ​​us of Westerners and vice versa. where are these ideas from? I can’t explain everything with the best education in our country. there, among them, the difference between our cultures and way of life is cultivated in the sense that we are primitives, we live more primitively, our way of life cannot exist, therefore we need to be taught.
        and indeed_ why should they know where the Russian Federation is and what it is? _ so it’s much easier to fool your people, that the Russian Federation is a mordor. remember at least the story of Limpopo.
      2. Bull Terrier
        Bull Terrier 10 November 2018 10: 41
        -3
        I’ll reveal a terrible secret - only the full down can not know the largest country. This is so for information. And after the Skripals, there are no such shows at all.
        1. newcomer
          newcomer 10 November 2018 13: 09
          0
          well, the fact that there after “high school" go downs is not a big secret. and on the map to know the location of such a huge country, all the more (thank God) it is all indicated in one color, maybe even a two-year-old child. but to know the political system, lifestyle, achievements of all kinds of sciences, etc. is not necessary. because it’s easier to brand: the evil Mordor, under the tyranny of tyrant Aibolit, was poorly accused by poor Limpopo. so, what did you want to say, my dear man?
  6. Starikan-m
    Starikan-m 10 November 2018 09: 41
    -2
    Rosneft is a former Yukos hodor .. Again, it stirs something ..?
    By the way, Russia owes 50 billion to Khodor .. He won them in the "SUDE" .. We all need to throw off, Hodor lives in poverty abroad ..))))
    1. Snail N9
      Snail N9 10 November 2018 10: 29
      +4
      In court, even kakly from the "national property" won. Moreover, the situation is far worse than it seems - the kakly have sued themselves the money that should have gone to finance the "northern streams" - now, the investors' money went not to Gazprom for the construction of these gas pipelines, but to the Swiss bailiffs to pay the claim of Naftogaz ". Here they are - the "successes" of Russia on the international market, real, not "hurray-patriotic"
      https://news.mail.ru/economics/35330850/?frommail=1
      In addition, Rosneft broke into Iraqi Kurdistan, an "unrecognized territory" and has already invested $ 1,3 billion there, and is going to bring this amount to $ 3 billion at a time when the Iraqi government is opposing Kurdish insurgents and calls this deal "gross interference into Iraqi affairs "and is going to take Kirkuk back under its control - when this happens, Rosneft will lose its investment. https://finance.rambler.ru/other/38115884-vosstanovlenie-kontrolya-bagdada-nad-kirkukom-ogromnye-poteri-dlya-rosnefti/?updated These are Russia's "successful managers".
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 10 November 2018 11: 09
      +8
      Rosneft, after having overcome Yukos, using state courts, made several more acquisitions. Home - TNK-BP. But here Rosneft cheated as children. I bought it at an inflated price and got into debt that it pays (or rather, Russia pays for it) so far.
      1. Nick_R
        Nick_R 10 November 2018 13: 37
        +4
        Yes, today's Rosneft costs less than it paid for TNK-BP itself. This is Sechin's brilliant deal. Roughly the same as with the privatization of Rosneft. But in our country it is not customary to count the losses of the state. On the contrary, the sovereign man is in the nearest cage. And look, in about three years the owner of the Qatari block of shares will be a Russian "investor". And he will buy it with money borrowed in our own state banks. And by a strange coincidence, Sechin or his relatives will be the controlling owner of this investor.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 10 November 2018 14: 10
          +4
          True, Sechin is greedy, used to act by force raider methods.
          And in a regular business, bought and sold it is easy to lead around the finger. Therefore, he drove the Russian "breadwinner" Rosneft into debt, without geological exploration of new fields, without new equipment.
  7. rocket757
    rocket757 10 November 2018 09: 43
    -1
    The OBS informant, like the Tsipa agent who knocks on everyone and on everyone, has tightly stuck to our "whistle-blowers" from the librarian - chick crowd, and the foreign "class" show no higher! One, liber - guano smeared.
    As a fact, an event can be anything, the authorities are the riches of all countries, for the purity of their ranks and their actions they are not particularly obscured, this is a fact. BUT, if you undertook to investigate, you want to bring everyone out of the shadows, WORK QUALITATIVELY. Arguments such as OBS and the like, only for those who are weak in their minds .... however, can this be precisely their level?
    1. Harry.km
      Harry.km 10 November 2018 10: 10
      +2
      Respected! You go to the Rosneft website, there it is in black in Russian: QH Oil Investments LLK / QH Oil Investments LLC (shareholder) - 18,93% (2 shares). And all of Rosneft is only 006% owned by the state.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 10 November 2018 10: 28
        0
        The controlling stake in Rosneft, like Gazprom, belongs to the state.
        1. Harry.km
          Harry.km 10 November 2018 10: 38
          +3
          So the point is not that the state has a controlling stake. By the way, the control package may be at 20%. But the fact is that they sold part of the state’s revenues, in which no one really brings currency except Rosneft and Gazprom. The deal was held in September, in a quiet ... There is also BP Russian Investments Limited with its 19,75% stake. And this package was also sold not so long ago, in my opinion in 2016. This is not an investment, this sale is almost wholesale. They would sell the shares of the plant under construction, no matter what. Although robots, even coffee grinders, this would be an investment. And in the conditions when we all go nuts with the salaries of the same Sechin, Miller and other Kokorins, I don’t even have a shadow of a doubt that we will receive from this transaction, if not direct, but definitely losses!
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 10 November 2018 11: 14
            -7
            And what do you want, Sechin and Miller are heads of huge state-owned companies for this and their salaries are appropriate, but these salaries come from the sale of resources, and not from our pockets and state treasuries. And in the stock of the plant under construction, only suckers will be invested - since today it is being built, and tomorrow it is no longer being built. Buying a stock of a long-established large company is precisely the investment - reasonable.
            1. Harry.km
              Harry.km 10 November 2018 12: 45
              0
              For starters, you would first become familiar with the concept of corporatization. And how it all began before the financial market crushed the market for real sectors. Returning to the Sechins and Millers, the question arises, why do they have such salaries if the resources belong to the people? And further, if you sell the shares of the state raw materials company, then someone gets access to the state raw materials base! If these were companies from the Russian Federation, then at least taxes would remain in the Russian Federation. And in our case, we have a complete conclusion of everything to nowhere ... And what you wrote further about suckers is a conversation to nowhere. No need to build, need to sell ... excellent. But I’m a sucker, I’m for Russian production, for any investment, even from pirates of the Caribbean, but in real production, and I am against the fact that Kokorins and other sechin receive raw materials, and people like you (the plural with a small letter) are called suckers like me)))
              1. Vadim237
                Vadim237 10 November 2018 17: 24
                0
                Investing from the side into the plant while it is still under construction is the height of idiocy, you can continue to rejoice for Russian production - you are not developing it, but like me.
                1. Harry.km
                  Harry.km 10 November 2018 19: 19
                  0
                  Quote: Vadim237
                  Investing from the side into the plant while it is still under construction is the height of idiocy, you can continue to rejoice for Russian production - you are not developing it, but like me.

                  Each person has their own vision of doing business. You are probably one of those who "develop" the Russian production of bankrupt operating enterprises, and then dismember the remains and sell them in pieces, since the pieces are more expensive than the whole. Moreover, the GDP grows and the IFRS shows profit))) And judging by your second statement, starting production in Russia is sheer oligophrenia, if investing in an enterprise under construction is the height of idiocy. This is approximately why 49,9% of Rosneft was sold
                  1. Vadim237
                    Vadim237 10 November 2018 23: 03
                    0
                    I have my own enterprises that I created from scratch - mostly those who came to places and did not create what are being destroyed, and investing money in an empty space - a plant under construction that may be closed tomorrow is stupid, they invest in the expansion of already established enterprises on the market, at least 7 years market, but not in the "bones of iron and concrete" there is an owner and he has the means to build and develop, it's like investing in the construction of residential buildings - many got burned out on this. 49,9% of the sold Rosneft shares are investments in the company - everything develops on the spot.
                    1. Harry.km
                      Harry.km 10 November 2018 23: 16
                      0
                      Personally, you are free to act with your money in accordance with your ideas and desires. But the state should invest in the development of its production, and for you to invest in a 7-year-old plant, you had to build it 7 years ago. And so far we only sell ... in bulk ... at reduced prices. Once again I repeat my thought, I do not see the benefits of selling a raw budget-forming company! Not immediately, until the first mine, neither after 7 years, nor after 77. The reasons for this opinion and such articles in particular.
                      1. Consultant
                        Consultant 10 November 2018 23: 39
                        0
                        Quote: Harry.km
                        I do not see the benefits on sale commodity budget forming company

                        No one sold the company. Sold shares that give the right to participate in the management of the company, and receive dividends. And that’s all. The company at the same time remained in place, oddly enough. All its movable and immovable property, as well as other assets.

                        Quote: Harry.km
                        я I do not see the benefits in the sale of raw materials budget-forming company

                        Policy. In this transaction, very random investors, believe me. But here it is a hard offtopic, so I will not continue. I can explain in PM if you wish.
                      2. Harry.km
                        Harry.km 10 November 2018 23: 48
                        +1
                        I agree, the policy, the benefit of some particular circles, I agree.
                        I disagree with the first part absolutely.
                        Sold shares that give the right to participate in the management of the company, and receive dividends. And that’s all. The company at the same time remained in place, oddly enough. All its movable and immovable property, as well as other assets.
                        You forgot to add about the proportional part of the property. Moreover, the proportions can be considered both in accounting and market value.
                      3. Consultant
                        Consultant 10 November 2018 23: 55
                        0
                        Quote: Harry.km
                        You forgot to add about the proportional part of the property

                        This is something new for me. My wife has some (enough) Gazprom shares. She, then, does have the right to some property? Brad, no?

                        Quote: Harry.km
                        I agree, the benefit of certain circles, I agree

                        You, conspiracy theorists, would all have "certain circles". Okay.

                        The Qataris there, as it is already clear, is not at all accidental - we remember the Emir of Qatar in Moscow, we remember the abbreviation "OPEC +", we think ...
                        The second investor is also not random, we read the Internet about Glencore company and its contacts with the USSR, and then with the Russian Federation, we think again ... and how did you want?

                        And who is easy now? (with)
                      4. Harry.km
                        Harry.km 11 November 2018 00: 07
                        +1
                        Oh mine got .... one interlocutor of the enterprise from scratch creates, from another his wife, almost a minority of Gazprom ... You would first understand what her shares are, and when the right to own a proportional part of the property comes from the shareholders and which shareholders . So the question of what your wife is entitled to is certainly not for me. And this question is an accurate offtopic.
                      5. Consultant
                        Consultant 11 November 2018 00: 14
                        -1
                        Quote: Harry.km
                        wife, almost a minority of Gazprom ...

                        Is that something - "almost"? Just the most that neither is a minority shareholder. Remember the definition? Something I'm in doubt ...

                        Quote: Harry.km
                        what are her shares

                        Ordinary. Surprisingly. Purchased for vouchers.

                        Quote: Harry.km
                        when does the right to own a proportional part of the property come from shareholders and which shareholders

                        No idea. But something tells me that never at any. I repeat again:

                        Definition Remember? Something I'm in doubt ...
                      6. Harry.km
                        Harry.km 11 November 2018 00: 56
                        +1
                        I do not know what ordinary stocks and Gazprom common stocks are for me, too, a dark forest. So you will show indulgence to my dullness and wretchedness, especially since you have already identified my GM injury.
                      7. Consultant
                        Consultant 11 November 2018 00: 57
                        -1
                        Quote: Harry.km
                        So you will show leniency

                        As you say. But here it is -

                        Quote: Harry.km
                        when does the right to own a proportional part of the property come from shareholders and which shareholders

                        I'm really interested. Do not clarify? wink
                      8. Harry.km
                        Harry.km 11 November 2018 01: 08
                        -1
                        Keep trolling? )) This right comes in the event of liquidation of the company.
                      9. Consultant
                        Consultant 11 November 2018 05: 44
                        -1
                        Quote: Harry.km
                        This right comes in the event of liquidation of the company.

                        Hour by hour is not easier ... Well, Gazprom has not yet been liquidated, like ...

                        Quote: Harry.km
                        Keep trolling?

                        Why is this? I didn’t know, thanks. Plus to you)))
        2. Nick_R
          Nick_R 10 November 2018 13: 44
          -2
          The controlling stake in Rosneft, like Gazprom, belongs to the state.

          You need to add the word "bye". By the way, the controlling stake does not formally belong to the state, since 11% of Rosneft and 26% of Gazprom belong to Rosneftegaz, which is controlled by Sechin. And although Rosneftegaz seems to be state-owned, Sechin is quite his own boss there. Huge dividends received by Rosneftegaz from Gazprom and Rosneft almost never reach the state, but settle in the bowels of Rosneftegaz. And Sechin decides where to invest them.
          1. Consultant
            Consultant 10 November 2018 13: 58
            +2
            Quote: Nick_R
            11% of Rosneft and 26% of Gazprom belong to Rosneftegaz

            First mistake: 100% of Rosneftegaz’s shares belong to the state represented by the Federal Property Management Agency.
            The second mistake: Rosneft's controlling stake (50% + 1 share) belongs to Rosneftegaz. That is, the state.
            The third mistake: Rosneftegaz owns 10,97% of Gazprom shares, as well as 26,36% of Inter RAO shares. Not Gazprom 26.

            Quote: Nick_R
            even though Rosneftegaz seems to be state-owned, but Sechin’s quite a master there

            Sechin "there" is a hired labor force.

            Quote: Nick_R
            The huge dividends received by Rosneftegaz from Gazprom and Rosneft to the state almost do not reach, but settle in the bowels of Rosneftegaz

            Huge - how much? And compared to what "huge"? And why don't they get it?

            Quote: Nick_R
            You need to add the word "bye"

            What for?
            1. Nick_R
              Nick_R 10 November 2018 16: 37
              0
              Sechin "there" - hired labor

              Wage labor are those to whom Sechin pays a salary. And he is the actual owner there. I hope you understand that it is not always necessary to own 51% of the shares in order to actually manage the enterprise
              1. Consultant
                Consultant 10 November 2018 16: 45
                +1
                Quote: Nick_R
                Wage labor are those to whom Sechin pays a salary. And he is the actual owner there

                I repeat: Sechin is not the owner, therefore, Sechin is hired personnel. Sechin cannot, for example, sell Rosneft at his discretion (the owner can). But this is just not interesting, for the obvious.

                Let's better talk about the "huge dividends" that "do not reach" wink
      2. rocket757
        rocket757 10 November 2018 10: 39
        0
        And what can this talk about, from a third-party, unprofessional look?
        How and what should the investigation show - a statement by RBC for example.
        The simple question is - what did they want to say and where are the facts confirming this?
        In the eyes of the average man, it's just blah, blah, what is it about?
        1. Harry.km
          Harry.km 10 November 2018 10: 53
          +2
          Let me quote:
          Quote: Vard
          One-on-one mortgage auctions ... Nothing surprising ... Still see who owns this Qatari fund ... It may well be that there are familiar names ...

          Here is my redneck, that's exactly what it looks like.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 10 November 2018 11: 31
            0
            They undertook to investigate, to enlighten the people about, to bring the matter to the end!
  8. samarin1969
    samarin1969 10 November 2018 09: 55
    +6
    It is clear that buying out Rosneft at the peak of the fall in oil prices is an archival advantage. I was surprised that this asset was given to the Qatarites. It turns out that everything went like in the 90s - a state asset - for state money.
    1. Snail N9
      Snail N9 10 November 2018 10: 34
      +2
      I was surprised that this asset was given to the Qatarites. It turns out everything went like in the 90s - a state asset - for state money.

      It is strange that you are surprised at this, living in a country with a state system, officially called "state oligarchism" ... wink
      1. Altona
        Altona 10 November 2018 13: 47
        +1
        Quote: Snail N9
        It is strange that you are surprised at this, living in a country with a state system, officially called "state oligarchism" ...

        -----------------------
        It is strange that you call the Kyrgyz-Sobyanin construction projects a "successful metropolis."
    2. Bull Terrier
      Bull Terrier 10 November 2018 10: 43
      -4
      It doesn’t turn out. It's just a stuffing
  9. ZVS
    ZVS 10 November 2018 09: 55
    +6
    During these six years, Medvedev's government will sell all the most profitable assets of the state in order to leave behind a "harvested field".
    1. Bull Terrier
      Bull Terrier 10 November 2018 10: 44
      -6
      And what did they sell?)))
  10. Naughty
    Naughty 10 November 2018 10: 04
    0
    Quote: 210ox
    Yeah .. "Ours is with you" is the price of gasoline ..

    Here, as they say, for which they fought and ran sad
  11. akudr48
    akudr48 10 November 2018 10: 14
    0
    It’s not enough for ourselves, but here is Qatar some ...
    1. Ace Tambourine
      Ace Tambourine 10 November 2018 10: 21
      +2
      there is no longer Qatar, but cataracts ...
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 10 November 2018 10: 30
      -2
      What are few of your own shares?
  12. Vard
    Vard 10 November 2018 10: 26
    +3
    One-on-one mortgage auctions ... Nothing surprising ... Still see who owns this Qatari fund ... It may well be that there are familiar names ...
  13. loginovich
    loginovich 10 November 2018 10: 30
    +1
    I did not like and do not like police workers, but I am going to celebrate the day of the Soviet police. I take this opportunity to congratulate all Soviet police.
  14. Bull Terrier
    Bull Terrier 10 November 2018 10: 38
    -2
    This is beautiful) from scratch to create a sensation))) money can be at least Vasya Pupkin) the buyer is more important))) but you have to create it)))
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    1. Snail N9
      Snail N9 10 November 2018 12: 00
      +1
      Yes, no .... Moscow is a normal, developing capital city with its problems that every metropolis has .... Have you been to New York for a long time? Or in Paris? Yes, in the same Helsinki, Oslo or Stockholm? There (with the exception, probably of New York), the changes are really significant for the worse, and many times worse than what was there 15 years ago, and these deteriorations are precisely caused by the migrant crisis and the liberalism of the authorities .
      1. Altona
        Altona 10 November 2018 13: 19
        +2
        Quote: Snail N9
        Yes, no .... Moscow is a normal, developing capital city with its own problems that every metropolis has ....

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        Well, how can I say ... I was at the exhibition of small mechanization as a participant, where 75% of the expositions were Chinese and communicated with Chinese who spoke English and Russian, their revelations seemed to me quite interesting. One Chinese studied in Moscow, he is the general manager for foreign economic activity of the WEIMA plant, which produces engines and walk-behind tractors, including both under his own brand and for Husqvarna (Sweden). Here he told me literally the following. A good welder in China receives about 120-150 thousand rubles (in terms of value), according to him, an amateur level asks for 70 thousand. they have transferred welding work to Japanese and German robots, Chinese robots still leave much to be desired. The best design is European, the Chinese will learn design for at least another 50 years. About us, he said that we agreed to voluntary degradation, the Russian school in technology was one of the strongest. If you buy Chinese equipment, the state Sberbank returns 30% of the amount. As for Moscow, it is somehow shocking the abundance of Asians everywhere - cashiers, cleaners, helpers. Well, the problem, I really don't know. In any Chinese or Arabian metropolis, there are dozens of such towers in the center of Moscow and much more beautiful. The asphalt that I saw is broken by thermal cracks, landslides in some places. But these are "problems of a developing metropolis." You walk at night, some Kyrgyz in the middle of the newly laid asphalt are already digging something, laying communications, you can fail. The horror is simple, everything has been dug up and blocked around.
  16. APASUS
    APASUS 10 November 2018 12: 50
    +1
    It’s an interesting situation. We are not just raising funds to the country, but it turned out we are even financing purchases.
    Once again, we will return to the situation with the pension reform, where a competent opinion was expressed that there is no money in the country in retirement! In fact, the state is getting rid of the social component, and this was just confirmed by another official:
    The state owes you nothing!
    1. Altona
      Altona 10 November 2018 13: 20
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      Quote: APASUS
      We do not just attract funds to the country, but it turned out we even finance purchases.

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      It’s just that someone not only sold out, but resold, and insures his fate ...
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 10 November 2018 17: 38
      0
      Of course not, since 26 million do not pay taxes and all those savings that were in the USSR turned into zero in the 90s, so now the state essentially pays a pension at its own expense, past the 7 trillion that are needed at the moment in retirement , you still need 5 trillion - for social programs, 3 trillion for the defense industry and so on and so forth, as well as the constant need to replenish the stabilization fund that drained the crises of 2008 - 10 and 2014 -17 - that's not enough for everything.
  17. Ros 56
    Ros 56 10 November 2018 13: 28
    +2
    What kind of nonsense, in Qatar, money itself has nowhere to go, one of the richest countries. They go into hell with debt, especially since RBC is driving the wave, there the gobbling liberals mixed with the normal ones.
  18. room
    room 10 November 2018 14: 52
    0
    In my personal opinion, it was like this:
    There is an asset owned by the state (Rosneft), unidentified persons with Russian citizenship at the helm of this asset would like to take this asset, they won’t be able to take everything all at once, they decided to take it from the state in parts so that there would be no scandals. In order to divert all attention from themselves, foreign investors were invented and the goal was to get foreign money into the country .. VTB gave loans to non-residents associated with unidentified persons at the helm of Rosneft, they transferred money to the Qatari fund (and maybe to the Chinese) and through this fund they own the data shares ... The scheme may be different in some ways, but in my opinion, VTB did not lend to an Arab fund, namely, unidentified persons at the helm of Rosneft ... Everyone knows of course who these unidentified persons are
    Perhaps the people in VTB who issued loans received their part of Rosneft))
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 10 November 2018 17: 40
      0
      This information is another soap - for high-profile words.
  19. Yan Sergeev
    Yan Sergeev 10 November 2018 23: 43
    +2
    Paranoia is not only an incurable disease, but also an indestructible ideology.