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Buryat police asked for the reader’s IP address for comments in a local newspaper.

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In the Republic of Buryatia, a strange situation manifested itself. Local edition "Number one" published a material in which it was reported that Republican officials are going to update the fleet of vehicles, the price of which exceeds 1,5 million rubles. In particular, the material states that officials buy sedans with engine volumes of 2,3 liters and 1,687 million rubles, as well as furniture at immodest prices — for example, a desk for 60 thousand rubles. However, the same article refers to the procurement of more budget options for cars and furniture for the authorities. For example, office furniture for 30 thousand rubles - the price is quite acceptable for an office cabinet.


In general, it was a publication that, in fact, is not classified as a sensation. However, she caused a lot of negative comments from residents of the republic in relation to representatives of regional authorities. It would seem a common thing - the journalists published the information, the readers reacted. But now it turns out that law enforcement officers are interested in comments on the article itself. This is reported on the website of the Buryat edition.

A letter came to the editor-in-chief from the Center for Countering Extremism and from the “K” department. The police “ask” Oksana Sazhinov (the editor-in-chief) to provide them with the personal data of the reader, who expressed his opinion on the purchases made by representatives of the regional authorities.

Thus, it was stated about the need to provide the police officers with the IP address of the “commentator”. This is explained by the fact that some commented readers, in the opinion of the police, “are inclined to impede the activities of state bodies”.

Buryat police asked for the reader’s IP address for comments in a local newspaper.


The editors responded with a letter in which they stated that they did not have the right to provide IP addresses, as this would violate the law on personal data.



At the same time, the newspaper’s editors turned to their readers with a request not to violate the rules for commenting on the materials on the site. It was also noted that there were no questions to the published publication of Roskomnadzor.

But the very fact of requests for the provision of "ah-pi" addresses of readers by the republican bodies of the Ministry of Internal Affairs (and even the anti-extremist division) caused an extremely negative reaction from the reading community. People in the new comments urged the police to investigate the real criminal cases to search for dangerous criminals, rather than trying to settle accounts with ordinary citizens. Many, in protest, began to publish their own IP addresses in the comments under the articles.
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  1. Machete
    Machete 9 November 2018 08: 15
    +61
    What did he write there? He called the thieves thieves, and the lured police, on the complaint of these thieves, want to punish the insolent?
    Have you completely beached the shores?
    1. Logall
      Logall 9 November 2018 08: 21
      +26
      Well warned - means armed, we will mean. But cut the truth, the uterus will not stop!
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 9 November 2018 08: 29
        +14
        Buryat police asked for the reader’s IP address for comments in a local newspaper.
        the dude is threatened with a bottle of ... "democracy" her mother ...
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 9 November 2018 08: 44
          +11
          Buryat police asked for the reader’s IP address for comments in a local newspaper.

          Well, everything is as in the classics:
          1. Stas157
            Stas157 9 November 2018 09: 32
            +5
            And on what basis does the Buryat police require commentators from the publication? This commentator, whom the police do not seem to even know, has committed some kind of offense ??
            The editorial staff responded with a letter stating that it was not entitled to provide IP addresses, as this would be a violation of the law on personal data.

            Maybe my wish would be superfluous, but it would be good if VO, in such cases, would respond in the same way.
            1. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky 9 November 2018 11: 47
              +1
              Quote: Stas157
              Maybe my wish would be superfluous, but it would be good if VO, in such cases, would respond in the same way.

              It would be even better to find out the content of the very comments, because of which all the boron cheese flared up. Criticism is one thing, but sentences like “take a pitchfork and cans of gasoline and go to overthrow the government and burn a hornet’s nest” is quite another. It is clear that the authorities are eating too much and somewhere emotions can go off scale, but the head is given not only for what to eat in it, and therefore it is necessary to soberly weigh what you write. Calls using the Internet generally go like an aggravating article ... The article is useful in the sense that it reminded that "the eye of the state machine does not sleep" and the proverb - "what is written with a pen cannot be cut out with an ax" is relevant as never.
        2. Svarog
          Svarog 9 November 2018 09: 38
          +15
          Quote: Andrew Y.
          Buryat police asked for the reader’s IP address for comments in a local newspaper.
          the dude is threatened with a bottle of ... "democracy" her mother ...

          Yes, democracy begins with Buryatia ..
          1. Vinnibuh
            Vinnibuh 9 November 2018 10: 22
            +5
            And there the whole department in a crowd, decided to challenge him to a "duel". And what is possible for someone, but not for them? It was funny, if only it was not so sad.
      2. Semurg
        Semurg 9 November 2018 08: 31
        +7
        Quote: Logall
        Well warned - means armed, we will mean. But cut the truth, the uterus will not stop!

        Then the "Buryat police" will knock on you laughing
        1. Anatole Klim
          Anatole Klim 9 November 2018 08: 35
          +6
          Quote: Semurg
          Then the "Buryat police" will knock on you

          And what does the administration of the site "VO" do, I remember saying that they receive inquiries about their members as well? stop
      3. Machito
        Machito 9 November 2018 08: 54
        +3
        If you are not suffering from paranoia - this does not mean that they do not follow.
        Corrupt officials will destroy anti-corruption earlier than the Ministry of Internal Affairs - corruption.
    2. Slinqshot
      Slinqshot 9 November 2018 08: 31
      +30
      Yes, nothing that the authorities did not know about themselves. It’s just that the police degenerated into the police. Now degenerates into gendarmerie. As well as the FSB - to the secret police. Capitalism, s.
      PS office cabinet for 30k is still not the cheapest option. Our servants love the people.
      1. Olegater
        Olegater 9 November 2018 08: 39
        +31
        Sorry, dear, allow me to correct you!
        Police degenerated into policemen! Something like this will be more true.
      2. PSih2097
        PSih2097 9 November 2018 08: 43
        +1
        Quote: Slinqshot
        Now degenerates into gendarmerie. Like the FSB, in secret police.

        it is not the same? belay
        The main difference between police and gendarmes in tsarist Russia was a clear separation of functions to protect the existing law and order. In short, the police were involved in law enforcement, investigating administrative offenses and criminal offenses (including criminal investigation). And the gendarmerie was engaged in state security, that is, political investigation. The police was created by Peter the Great in 1718 as a special service for the supervision of public order. By 1890, the Police Department consisted of city police departments led by police chiefs, police units and sections with police officers at the head, nibbles led by near-guard officers, and the lowest level were city posts. Police officers were involved in border guards, issuing passports to foreigners, overseeing drinking establishments, criminal investigations, fire safety, and issuing permits for public gatherings and speeches. The first gendarme units in the Russian Empire appeared during the reign of Paul the First. A Separate Gendarme Corps was created under Emperor Nicholas I in the 20s of the 19th century. The gendarmes were mainly engaged in political investigation and were divided into provincial administrations and county gendarmes.
    3. Finches
      Finches 9 November 2018 08: 41
      +12
      Apparently the wife or husband works as an official, and the husband or wife works in the police - that’s the one taken for w ... the husband or wife asked to understand another husband or wife - what kind of fighter drew justice ...
      We pass on Aesopian language! laughing
    4. Oden280
      Oden280 9 November 2018 08: 53
      -2
      There are enough slops, and there are very bad ones. If interested, read. Https: //gazeta-n1.ru/news/69022/? Sphrase_id = 2788568
    5. Gray brother
      Gray brother 9 November 2018 09: 06
      -10
      Quote: Machete

      What did he write there? Called thieves thieves

      What did they steal? Not that much money. Now UAZ "Patriot" costs no less than Llama. Not much furniture either.
      1. Gray brother
        Gray brother 9 November 2018 09: 52
        -6
        In essence, is there anything to say? Or will we cowardly minus? laughing
        1. Vinnibuh
          Vinnibuh 9 November 2018 10: 26
          0
          It’s just that these sums, the tip of the iceberg, have begun to fuss.
          1. Gray brother
            Gray brother 9 November 2018 10: 30
            -3
            Quote: Vinnibuh

            It’s just that these sums, the tip of the iceberg, have begun to fuss.

            Adequate ample amounts. You are also arguing unfoundedly, like I should believe a word or something?
            1. Vinnibuh
              Vinnibuh 9 November 2018 10: 36
              -2
              I do not claim, I suppose. But this requires verification standards by the UK, not stupid assaults. (moreover, in both directions).
              1. Gray brother
                Gray brother 9 November 2018 10: 40
                0
                Quote: Vinnibuh

                I do not claim, I suppose.

                The investigation does not consider conspiracy theories. Facts needed.
                Quote: Vinnibuh
                . But this requires verification standards by the UK,

                In order to determine the fact that in our country it is impossible to buy a normal four-wheel drive car for less than a million rubles, an IC check is not needed.
                1. Vinnibuh
                  Vinnibuh 9 November 2018 10: 49
                  -1
                  There is a difference in prices, it depends on the quantity of goods, and who orders too. Again, quality plays an important role. You can call a ikea stool a nanotable and roll up the price, or vice versa.
                  1. Gray brother
                    Gray brother 9 November 2018 10: 59
                    0
                    Quote: Vinnibuh
                    . You can call a ikea stool a nanotable and roll up the price, or vice versa.

                    I don’t argue, you can buy firewood. However, it is possible to present for this only after the purchase, but no matter how before.
                    Have you heard of the presumption of innocence?
                    1. Vinnibuh
                      Vinnibuh 9 November 2018 11: 08
                      -1
                      Well, no one presented, they stupidly took on koment and, in principle, because of this you are in full swing.
                      1. Gray brother
                        Gray brother 9 November 2018 11: 13
                        -1
                        Quote: Vinnibuh
                        , they stupidly took on koment and, in principle, because of this, you are in full swing.

                        I did not read it, maybe there are calls for the overthrow of the legitimate authority and for unrest.
                        There, by the way, now a fun special operation is going on - the IPs are wresting their own wrestlers on their own.
                        I’m also thinking of putting someone out there, for fun. Your boss, for example)))
                      2. Vinnibuh
                        Vinnibuh 9 November 2018 11: 20
                        -2
                        Here I completely agree with you.
      2. Alex Justice
        Alex Justice 9 November 2018 19: 04
        0
        Yes, even a pencil stole, then a thief. Drive those.
        At the hour of one such a can of paint was fired. No one could understand why stealing, if you can buy.
      3. Rzzz
        Rzzz 9 November 2018 23: 26
        +1
        Here the question is how often. You can buy new cars every year, and write off the old ones and sell them well below the market to “whoever needs it”. There was such a thing in some department, their accounting chamber covered, they unsubscribed that the old cars are not reliable, and very large expenses for repairs, and they are not provided for by the budget. Yeah, but new cars are provided. "Old" - it seems to them after two years was considered.
  2. Olegater
    Olegater 9 November 2018 08: 16
    +30
    What a twist!
    It turns out that stealing the budget is normal, and commenting on theft is extremism? You see, just to comment, not to blame, not to reveal corruption, to comment !!!!
    Something is wrong in this kingdom!
    As a gift to the day of the Ministry of Internal Affairs! This is not the Ministry of Internal Affairs but personal protection - oprichnina !!!!!!!
    1. Igoresha
      Igoresha 9 November 2018 08: 37
      +3
      there is no theft, not targeted spending? and the actions of the Buryat Interior Ministry K are difficult to characterize in print ....
      1. Gray brother
        Gray brother 9 November 2018 09: 07
        +1
        Quote: Igoresha
        not targeted spending?

        Why not targeted? They wrote what they want to spend on.
        And what is the "target" then? Nothing or what? laughing
        1. Igoresha
          Igoresha 9 November 2018 09: 09
          -2
          there must be a corresponding term when you can spend so much and spend a lot more?) wait in the comments of the first waking lawyer))
          1. Gray brother
            Gray brother 9 November 2018 09: 14
            -4
            Quote: Igoresha
            wait in the comments of the first waking lawyer))

            Any lawyer will find only slander in the commentary here.
            If there were excessive amounts at least, then you can suspect a four-thread. And only slander.
          2. Gray brother
            Gray brother 9 November 2018 09: 31
            -2
            Quote: Igoresha
            when you can spend so much but spend a lot more?)

            What does this mean?
            I don’t understand, but how much "can you" spend?
      2. Machito
        Machito 9 November 2018 09: 11
        0
        There is no theft here. Ha. And what kickbacks have already been canceled?
        1. Igoresha
          Igoresha 9 November 2018 09: 14
          +5
          policia is not looking for kickbacks, she needed IP addresses soldier The hype has risen, it's good ... as the radio host on Radio-Liberty Ukraine said, "Corruption yak targan (i.e. cockroach), be afraid of light"
          1. Gray brother
            Gray brother 9 November 2018 09: 29
            -4
            Quote: Igoresha
            ... as the radio presenter on Radio Liberty Ukraine said, "Corruptioner yak targan (i.e. cockroach), be afraid of svitla"

            Whose Crimea?
            1. Igoresha
              Igoresha 9 November 2018 09: 30
              +11
              Whose Crimea?
              ask Gref))
              1. Gray brother
                Gray brother 9 November 2018 09: 41
                -7
                Quote: Igoresha
                ask Gref))

                I ask you.
                1. Mestny
                  Mestny 9 November 2018 10: 12
                  -9
                  He will not answer. So the main noise is to create. As their leader, Comrade Lenin, said - the worse, the better.
                2. Igoresha
                  Igoresha 9 November 2018 15: 26
                  -1
                  Quote: Gray Brother
                  I ask you.

                  de facto Russian, de jure ... well, you and Gref yourself know
                  1. Gray brother
                    Gray brother 9 November 2018 15: 30
                    -1
                    Quote: Igoresha
                    de facto Russian, de jure ..

                    You have now written yourself for fifteen years under Ukrainian law. There are no double interpretations.
        2. Gray brother
          Gray brother 9 November 2018 09: 15
          -1
          Quote: Bearded
          And what kickbacks have already been canceled?

          To roll back you must first wind up the couple.
          1. Vinnibuh
            Vinnibuh 9 November 2018 10: 30
            +1
            First you need to find out who the intermediary companies belong to, because they are unlikely to buy directly.
            1. Gray brother
              Gray brother 9 November 2018 10: 35
              -1
              Quote: Vinnibuh

              First you need to find out who owns the intermediary companies,

              There, on the tender, the maximum price is indicated, it can only change downward.
              To steal something according to such a scheme, you need to overestimate the cost first, and there is nothing stunning to watch.
              1. Vinnibuh
                Vinnibuh 9 November 2018 10: 40
                +2
                In Samara, the whole city in .... poor paving stones. Guess whose factory? )))))
                1. Gray brother
                  Gray brother 9 November 2018 10: 53
                  0
                  Quote: Vinnibuh

                  In Samara, the whole city in .... poor paving stones. Guess whose factory? )))))

                  Yes, I do not ... what is there in Samara.
                  There is an article in the media, they gave information about procurement, on its basis there is nothing to show. But there is a body that has unsubscribed about "stealing" - this is an unfounded statement classified as slander.
                  If this body, on the basis of its claims, called to reel red, then this is another article.
                  The body has broken the law and must respond.
                  1. Consultant
                    Consultant 9 November 2018 11: 01
                    -5
                    Quote: Gray Brother
                    there is a body that unsubscribed about "stealing" - this is an unsubstantiated statement classified as slander

                    Oo-oo-oo-oo ... and there are so many "bodies"!

                    Quote: Gray Brother
                    If this body, on the basis of its claims, called to reel red, then this is another article

                    And these are also enough ...

                    An ostrich has more eyes than a brain (And I know such people)
                    A starfish does not have a brain (I also know such people)
                  2. Vinnibuh
                    Vinnibuh 9 November 2018 11: 12
                    0
                    Example: they called you in transport, do you run to court or ignore it? For example, I will either send or hammer on him.
                    1. Gray brother
                      Gray brother 9 November 2018 11: 20
                      -1
                      Quote: Vinnibuh
                      Example: they called you in transport, do you run to court or ignore it?

                      Difficult, but possible. Witnesses are needed.
                      1. Vinnibuh
                        Vinnibuh 9 November 2018 11: 23
                        -1
                        As you wrote above, this is an empty polemic, because we don’t really know the details. And I agree with that.
                      2. Gray brother
                        Gray brother 9 November 2018 11: 39
                        0
                        Quote: Vinnibuh

                        As you wrote above, this is an empty polemic, because we don’t really know the details.

                        We just know the background information. This is enough to draw conclusions. There is visible libel at least.
                        And I see no reason why the law enforcement agency should not talk to the commentator to clarify the issue.
                        Maybe he doesn’t lie and he has a full cabinet.
                      3. Vinnibuh
                        Vinnibuh 9 November 2018 11: 51
                        0
                        But what about freedom of speech? Or is it even slander? Pretty thin line.
                      4. Gray brother
                        Gray brother 9 November 2018 11: 55
                        -1
                        Quote: Vinnibuh

                        But what about freedom of speech? Or is it even slander?

                        And what is freedom of speech? This concept does not give the right to swindle anyone indiscriminately.
                        And the law provides for such punishment.

                        Many interpret freedom of speech in their own way, for example, Navalny says - I will become the president and there will be complete freedom of speech in the country, and I will put Solovyov and Kisilyov. Well, I understand him - they say something that Navalny does not like.
                        Is this "freedom of speech"?
                      5. Vinnibuh
                        Vinnibuh 9 November 2018 12: 04
                        0
                        In your opinion, from TV screens on talk shows, you can water everyone and everyone with slops and this is freedom of speech, but people wrote comments, is this slander? Even I do not see the logic. Or what allowed Jupiter, did not allow the bull?
                      6. Vinnibuh
                        Vinnibuh 9 November 2018 12: 05
                        +1
                        If all for the comments to pull on "conversations", it will be interesting)))
                      7. Gray brother
                        Gray brother 9 November 2018 12: 18
                        -1
                        Quote: Vinnibuh
                        If all for the comments to pull on "conversations", it will be interesting)))

                        You won’t pull everyone, many outside the jurisdiction
                      8. Gray brother
                        Gray brother 9 November 2018 12: 14
                        0
                        Quote: Vinnibuh

                        According to your talk-show TV screens, you can water everyone and everyone

                        Yes, what problems - there is a court for this. You take and serve, they won’t even go anywhere, it's not to write comments from the ip left.
                        On TV channels there are lawyers who monitor such things, there is always a justification that reinforces what has been said, or they can refer to other media outlets (which you can also sue if cho) to cover yourself. Otherwise, they will be dragged through the courts and put up for money, but this character only has unsubstantiated charges.
                      9. Vinnibuh
                        Vinnibuh 9 November 2018 12: 19
                        0
                        Sorry, but are you writing comments next to the lawyer? I have emotions that go wild and I can write something else. According to your logic, I’m an evil slanderer and I have to sit in conversations all the time and pay fines))))
                      10. Gray brother
                        Gray brother 9 November 2018 12: 31
                        -1
                        Quote: Vinnibuh
                        Sorry, but are you writing comments next to the lawyer? I have emotions that go wild and I can write something else.

                        No, not next to a lawyer. If anyone has a desire to show me something, I beg you.
                        Quote: Vinnibuh
                        According to your logic, I’m an evil slanderer and I have to sit in conversations all the time and pay fines))

                        I myself am not without sin. Nowadays, no one is safe from this.
                        To begin with, the injured party must declare you to dash. No, well, if you call for the overthrow of the current constitutional order, the state will be the injured party right away and then a statement is not necessary.
                      11. K-612-O
                        K-612-O 9 November 2018 13: 13
                        0
                        In this regard, it is not necessary to take out your personal emotions in the information space, public. The Internet remembers everything, unfortunately for many. I do not understand, why splash emotions on the screen, it becomes easier? So there is a gym, dumbbells, a horizontal bar, a stack of firewood, a vegetable garden and much more, so that emotions could splash out. And it is necessary to somehow philosophically relate to life, in proportion to its space of influence.
                      12. Consultant
                        Consultant 9 November 2018 12: 23
                        0
                        Quote: Vinnibuh
                        But what about freedom of speech? Or is it even slander? Pretty fine line

                        IMHO the edge is quite distinct: carry your words as you like freely, but be prepared for what the market can pull)))

                        The phrase "it seems to me that (such and such a character) (such and such a bad word)" cannot be attributed to slander. The same phrase without "it seems to me" can be recognized as slander, if the river flower does not provide evidence of what was said. Something like this.
    2. kjhg
      kjhg 9 November 2018 11: 40
      +3
      Quote: Olegater
      This is not the Ministry of Internal Affairs but personal protection - oprichnina !!!!!!!

      This was no secret before. Last year, Putin appointed his guard, who was never even an officer in the army or the police, the head of the Russian Guard and granted him the rank of army general, Karl!
  3. Vard
    Vard 9 November 2018 08: 21
    +8
    They are in the police there are not at all friends with the computer ... You can see the IP in the properties of the comment itself ...
    1. Gray brother
      Gray brother 9 November 2018 09: 25
      -2
      Quote: Vard
      You can see IP in the properties of the comment itself ...

      There is an identifier assigned by the resource only. This is through "view the element code", I did not find any other functionality.
  4. Serge Gorely
    Serge Gorely 9 November 2018 08: 25
    +16
    Well, what, was it in vain that they renamed the police? Now the people will remember what "Derzhimorda" is ...
  5. Bull Terrier
    Bull Terrier 9 November 2018 08: 36
    -15
    some game ... you never know what the police need ... let's discuss each development on the network now
  6. NKVD
    NKVD 9 November 2018 08: 42
    +13
    Well, we are rolling down quietly to censorship. Now all dissidents will be labeled "Extremist"
    1. Mestny
      Mestny 9 November 2018 10: 10
      -4
      A dissident neighbor will come to you, and loudly declare you a pedophile.
      Do you agree with him as a fighter for freedom of opinion?
    2. tomket
      tomket 9 November 2018 14: 30
      0
      Quote: NKVD
      Well, we are rolling down quietly to censorship. Now all dissidents will be labeled "Extremist"

      In a duel still cause)))))
  7. kit88
    kit88 9 November 2018 08: 43
    +15
    This people completely began to be forgotten.
    How dare he poke his nose in the lordly affairs!
    His business is to keep quiet, pay and vote for someone to say!
    1. Olegater
      Olegater 9 November 2018 09: 01
      +10
      So we get to the lashes at the stables, and separation, slave, groom, shepherd, yard girl, estate manager, housekeeper, pyatnik (head of the thoroughbred dogs of the master or prince) will not be named, etc.
      (Sad)
  8. rocket757
    rocket757 9 November 2018 08: 56
    +6
    In principle, the blogosphere has become a form of social protest, public control ... but what it can help really, really push the authorities to act according to the law is not yet clear.
    All the same, it’s right that people do not remain indifferent to all violations from all sides, both the authorities and citizens.
    1. Mestny
      Mestny 9 November 2018 10: 09
      -3
      Because most of this "protest" has been sucked from the thumb.
      They are a stupid, monotonous set of stamps, with links to the same fake source.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 9 November 2018 10: 19
        0
        There is such a thing.
        Quote: Mestny
        Because most of this "protest" has been sucked from the thumb

        a lot of empty talk. The boom is to hope that quality, gradually, will begin to prevail over quantity.
        We have another form of protest, control, etc. generally in the pen. Although it is obvious that if there is a desire to achieve something real, writing in social networks will not work.
  9. AlexVas44
    AlexVas44 9 November 2018 09: 02
    +8
    ... the police degenerated into the police. Now degenerates into gendarmerie.

    Degenerated - precise definition. It has not transformed (transformed, transformed, reincarnated, etc.), namely, it has degenerated. request
  10. Runoway
    Runoway 9 November 2018 09: 04
    0
    Not surprisingly, here one law enforcement agency rolled a moral warning lyule for an entertainment institution ....... a completely harmless ma'am about DAM belay , posted on their page in social networks.
    1. K-612-O
      K-612-O 9 November 2018 09: 32
      -9
      Well, in the United States, only for a threat to tyrnet Trump drove 10 years to a peasant and nothing like that. In general, almost 95% of our online publications and blogs are solid garbage and commentators there too. There are comments on 3-4 articles of the UK.
  11. Gardamir
    Gardamir 9 November 2018 09: 05
    +12
    But some stubborn anti-Soviet will not stop saying that under Stalin there was nothing to be planted. This is not the first time for likes of reposts, comments. Then return the Soviet Union. Yes, the Union restricted freedom of speech, but also limited crime.
  12. faterdom
    faterdom 9 November 2018 09: 24
    0
    In place of the editor, you need to send a copy of the request to the prosecutor's office, suspecting the groundlessness and unlawfulness of its occurrence.
    The bloggers and editors themselves, as well as the public, can "understand everything" as much as they want, but the supervising prosecutor must see "Where did it come from?" And if all this is not there, and everything is sucked out of the finger by the call, say, of the governor, the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, then the idea of ​​"violation of the law" is drawn. And if there are unreasonable restrictions on the constitutional rights to the secrecy of telephone conversations or the inviolability of the home, someone will sit down.
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 9 November 2018 09: 47
      +6
      Quote: faterdom
      someone will sit down.

      or move from one chair to another, which is most likely. And then, in our colonies of Kamchatka crab, they give red caviar for their
      1. faterdom
        faterdom 9 November 2018 12: 04
        -1
        In fact, we have not so few generals who were charged with Article 138 of the Criminal Code, I don't know if they now eat crabs ... I think they bitterly regretted that they treated some constitutional rights with extraordinary ease. Replacing them with "It is necessary!", "I demand!" and even "I command!"
    2. Mestny
      Mestny 9 November 2018 10: 07
      -5
      Here the responsibility should be borne by the media - for the content of the published materials. And the claim of the authorities should be directed specifically to them, and not to the "IP address".
      What will the leadership of this media do there - moderation will be introduced, or even closed altogether, this should not worry anyone.
      1. Gray brother
        Gray brother 9 November 2018 10: 24
        -2
        Quote: Mestny
        Here the responsibility should be borne by the media - for the content of the published materials. And the claim of the authorities should be directed specifically to them, and not to the "IP address".

        And they didn’t write anything like that, this is why the commentator wrote and claims to him. And now the media will have claims for refusing to cooperate because they are legally obligated.
        I’m sure that there, without looking, some devil was emptied, which Buryatia cannot even find on the map (this is at least).
  13. Mestny
    Mestny 9 November 2018 10: 04
    -5
    Quote: Machete
    What did he write there? He called the thieves thieves, and the lured police, on the complaint of these thieves, want to punish the insolent?
    Have you completely beached the shores?

    Does he have evidence that they stole? Or is it just the way it is customary for us - he crowed, but at least do not dawn there?
    For some reason, we are sure that you can carry anything to anyone. And when it arrives in response - surprised eyes.
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 9 November 2018 11: 36
      +2
      Quote: Mestny
      Does he have evidence that they stole?

      judging because these "honest" ones do not want to go to court and defend their honor, there is no evidence of innocence.
      It is much easier to call for the help of the Ministry of Internal Affairs / FSB or to call for a duel, preferably in pans
      1. Consultant
        Consultant 9 November 2018 14: 17
        0
        Quote: Silvestr
        no evidence of innocence

        You confuse: just the guilt is being proved, and the prosecution is obliged to do this. Innocence is not necessary to prove, it is implied)))

        Quote: Silvestr
        judging because these "honest" do not want to go to court and defend their honor

        For example, I, too, would not like to waste my time on "trips to the courts", defending myself against ridiculous accusations. And you? wink
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 9 November 2018 17: 09
          0
          Quote: Consultant
          And you?

          when the rumbling touches me, he sued twice and won the trials. It is difficult for a simple person. What is difficult for the boss with a full-time lawyer?
          Quote: Consultant
          You confuse: just the guilt is being proved, and the prosecution is obliged to do this.

          I do not confuse. if slandered, sue.
          1. Consultant
            Consultant 9 November 2018 20: 11
            -1
            Quote: Silvestr
            if slandered - sue

            This is a right, not an obligation, is it?

            Quote: Silvestr
            when the rumbling touches me, he sued twice and won the trials

            You did not understand the question.

            Quote: Consultant
            For example, I also would not like to waste my time on "trips on ships", defending against ridiculous accusations. And you?

            Let me explain: why on earth will I spend my precious time on what I can easily and not do?
    2. tomket
      tomket 9 November 2018 14: 34
      -1
      Quote: Mestny
      Does he have evidence that they stole? Or is it just the way it is customary for us - he crowed, but at least do not dawn there?

      You would read the wording. There is no wording - insult, slander, there - BELIED TO ACTIVITIES, there, roughly speaking, they called for disperse all these officials to such a mother.
  14. Examenatornick
    Examenatornick 9 November 2018 11: 06
    +5
    as usual, the uncle with connections asked to "punch the address"
  15. polar fox
    polar fox 9 November 2018 11: 43
    -1
    "stick" system in action ... if there is nothing to do on the topic of the department, they begin to look for similar "cases": you will chop sticks and no one will give them in the face. beauty ...
  16. Guru
    Guru 9 November 2018 12: 23
    -1
    provide the police with the IP address of the “commentator”.
    And the keys
    , from the house where they do not need the money?
  17. spektr9
    spektr9 9 November 2018 12: 25
    -1
    Freedom of speech )
  18. Revival
    Revival 9 November 2018 13: 15
    0
    Nothing new..
    Comments with "controversial" content should be written with a bias: in my personal opinion, it seems to me as if, etc.
    As a result, there is a comment, and the likelihood of responsibility and "composition" is minimized
  19. naidas
    naidas 9 November 2018 17: 57
    -3
    the chief Beloborodov in a share in which he signed.
  20. Naughty
    Naughty 9 November 2018 18: 33
    -2
    Quote: Logall
    Well warned - means armed, we will mean. But cut the truth, the uterus will not stop!

    Even sitting on a bunk on a political article laughing
  21. SS-18 Satan
    SS-18 Satan 9 November 2018 19: 46
    0
    and right !!! give a fight with bloggers who don’t give .. don’t give it all !!
  22. SS-18 Satan
    SS-18 Satan 9 November 2018 21: 13
    +1
    change is coming ..

  23. faterdom
    faterdom 9 November 2018 22: 06
    -2
    Quote: Gray Brother
    We just know the background information. This is enough to draw conclusions. There is visible libel at least.
    And I see no reason why the law enforcement agency should not talk to the commentator to clarify the issue.

    In the context, it looks like this: libel is a subject of private accusation. That is, I was slandered (or I think so), I know who did it - and I am filing a lawsuit, arguing why this is all slander, and demanding punishment under the article "Libel", publish a refutation, and, possibly, demand compensation for moral damage, and legal costs.
    The weak point when it comes to the Internet is to establish who did it. You can of course look to the site, forum, social networks - they will disown, they did not write this comment, message, Moder is not rubber, you can’t follow everyone.
    But here the law enforcement agencies are not obliged, at the request of each and everyone in the case of a private prosecution, to spend their strength and resources on the establishment of swearing types of anonymus for lawsuits against each other. About the same as collecting evidence of spouse infidelity for divorce proceedings.
    That is, that explicit use of the police for other purposes, and she took up those tasks that no one was entrusted to her, and even using official powers, forces and means for this.
    Now, if it were a false denunciation (Article 306 of the Criminal Code), that is, a deliberately false report of a crime to law enforcement agencies, then this is a different matter, the police must deal with this and must search for someone there.
  24. Lara Croft
    Lara Croft 10 November 2018 00: 44
    0
    Article "divorce". Again, gullible members of the forum are deceiving. fellow
    1. The first letter indicates the position of the signatory "Chief", such a position cannot be, if the head / chief is indicated, then which department.
    2. The "Editor" replies to the number of the outgoing letter, which does not coincide with the above (on the first, other outgoing number), and the letterhead of the "Editorial Board" with a screen shot of the name of the Newspaper is unlikely.
    3. The request came from one department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Republic of Belarus, and the "Editor" writes to another.
    4. The answer does not contain the "poorhouse" stamp.
    5. The request of the Ministry of Internal Affairs for the Republic of Belarus should be addressed not to the editor of the newspaper, but to the head of the legal entity (ex: Director of LLC "Horns and Hooves"), which registered the media.
    6. The name of the company is indicated in the "header" of the answer, and the editor is signed (moreover, another media outlet, although the names are similar).
    Law "On Mass Media"
    http://base.garant.ru/10164247/ belay