Rogozin: the number of rocket launches will be doubled

Next year, Roscosmos plans to double the number of launches of launch vehicles, reports RIA News message of the head of the corporation Dmitry Rogozin.

According to Rogozin, if in the current year only 17 launches were carried out, then in 2019 there will be more than 35. Of these, 10 carriers are heavy.

He clarified that out of ten heavy rockets one will be “Angara”, the others - “Protons”.

The head of "Roskosmos" also noted that the launch of such a number of heavy carriers will allow their manufacturer - the Center. Khrunicheva - start paying debts for overdue contracts.

It became known earlier that the Khrunichev Center plans in 2019 to conclude a contract for the preliminary design of a heavy Angara-A5B booster with an oxygen-hydrogen booster block. If the plans come true, then the first sample with the above-mentioned overclocking unit can be ready before the end of 2026. In this case, the first test launch will take place in the 2027 year.

The new oxygen-hydrogen accelerating unit will increase the capacity of the rocket to 37,5 tons.

In addition, at the end of October, Rogozin announced that specialists of the Roscosmos corporation would take part in the development of an extra-heavy rocket designed for the implementation of a program for the exploration and exploration of the moon.

This rocket will be capable of putting into the near-earth orbit about a hundred tons of cargo, and is necessary for organizing flights into deep space. The carrier will receive a new universal launch complex, the construction of which will begin in 2026 year.

Comments

[Svarog]

Does this mean that the number of accidents will also be doubled?

[maxim947]

No, it doesn’t.
The outlook for the next year is good, but the enterprises of the State Corporation Roscosmos would like to see more distant and stable prospects that allow them to plan and determine the development strategy of the enterprise. We need "long" orders, it's easier, better quality and cheaper.

[Don]

Roscosmos enterprises would like to see more distant and stable prospects

To have a stable perspective, it is necessary today to show potential customers reliable low-cost missile launches. In order for launches to be inexpensive, insurance must also be inexpensive, and this directly depends on the ratio of emergency and trouble-free launches, carry-over launches, etc. Rogozin, speaking of doubling, for some reason does not say that several years ago we launched even more of this amount. But the managers of Roscosmos and its enterprises brought the situation, if not to a catastrophe, then to a crisis for sure.

[Bull Terrier]

So he is trying to overcome this crisis!

[Henderson]

When he began to oversee the Russian space, there was no crisis yet. The crisis just began under his leadership.

[Bull Terrier]

Come on? Remind me when criminal cases in this department became the norm? Specifically Khrunichev Center?

[Henderson]

Rogozin, as deputy chairman of the Russian government in charge of space since 2011. Let me remind you that in 2011 Protons flew well and did not fall, Russia had more than 60% of the space launch market, the Shuttles had just retired, no Mask had interfered with their reusable rockets, there was a lot of money.
I don’t want to work, take markets further, create a reserve for the future. And they came to what they came to.
Remind me when criminal cases became the norm?

[Bull Terrier]

Deputy Chairman of the military-industrial complex. Until the age of 18. Nevertheless, that he did a bad thing. In fact! Which industry killed? Which industry? What?!

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Bull Terrier

Deputy Chairman of the military-industrial complex. Until the age of 18. Nevertheless, that he did a bad thing. In fact! Which industry killed? Which industry? What?!

Under his leadership, a child was born under the name of the Vostochny cosmodrome, which is still in the stage of perinatal care. With him, they began to put sensors upside down ... And the element base for electronics from South Korean consumer goods?
Kill did not kill. He did not even hold guns in his hands. But it seems that the industry in the pit ...

[Henderson]

Supervised: defense order, military-industrial complex, nuclear and space industry, aircraft manufacturing, shipbuilding, export control and military-technical cooperation

Quote: Bull Terrier

Which industry killed? Which industry? What?!

How many Protons launched this year? What happens to the unions? Where is the new Federation manned ship? How many launches are made from Vostochny per year? Where is deep space exploration?
But besides balabolstvo about trampolines, what did he do to develop the industry for 7 years while he was in charge of it?

None of the insurance companies submitted an application for insurance of the launch of the Soyuz-2.1b carrier rocket and the Fregat upper stage from the Glonass-M satellites No. 57, which is to be carried out at the Plesetsk cosmodrome. This follows from the materials from the public procurement website. It was supposed to insure this launch for 2,095 billion rubles with the maximum contract value of 178,1 million rubles.
It should be reminded that earlier the same situation occurred when a tender was placed to insure the risks of launching a Soyuz-FG rocket with the Progress transport cargo vehicle to the ISS, scheduled for November 18 from the Baikonur cosmodrome.

The head of Roscosmos, Dmitry Rogozin, said that the financial “hole” in the Khrunichev Center, which produces Proton and Angara launch vehicles, is 111 billion rublesRIA Novosti reports.
And yet, remind me when the criminal cases went there, and for what reasons?

[slipped]

Tomorrow's launch is insured by Ingosstrakh and Sogaz, and the debt has been frozen until 2023.

[Henderson]

That is, the state had to intervene. It also pays the debts of Khrunichev and the insurance of launches. What are we talking about. Everyone else considers the risks unacceptable.

[slipped]

Of course to the state, because the center is a state-owned enterprise and the state, as the owner, is obliged to take care of it, right?

[Henderson]

The state is obliged to profit from its enterprises, and not to patch holes of 110 billion. rubles at the expense of the budget and do not insure at your own expense at a non-profit high price.

[slipped]

This is a double edged sword. The state should first of all ensure its security and have an independent access to space. And let the businessmen chase for profit, but not at the state expense please.

[Giant thought]

His words, may God be in the ears.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Rogozin: the number of rocket launches will be doubled

statement, gives populism, (trampolines remember) quality control would be strengthened.

[Mestny]

What is wrong with trampolines?
The United States still has no way to send a person. There are developments at different stages - when and if they will be implemented so far no one knows.

[Hole puncher]

Quote: Mestny

There are developments at different stages - when and if they will be implemented so far no one knows.

Next year, all dates are known, it is not clear why you do not know.

[slipped]

it has been there every year "next year" for four years now.

[svp67]

Rogozin: the number of rocket launches will be doubled

Our calves, but the wolf would be eaten .... The number of launches can be at least ten times, the most important thing here is to raise the percentage of SUCCESSFUL launches, but here there are doubts about the ability of this guide to do this

[Underwater hunter]

Quote: svp67

Rogozin: the number of rocket launches will be doubled

Our calves, but the wolf would be eaten .... The number of launches can be at least ten times, the most important thing is to raise the percentage of SUCCESSFUL launches, but there are already doubts about the ability of this guide to do this

Generally a strange statement, due to which it will be doubled? Will there be more commercial orders? Where does this forecast come from? Or indeed, the quality of the quantity replaced is gathered ..

[svp67]

Quote: Underwater Hunter

Will there be more commercial orders?

At the expense of the military ....

[cockroaches]

Quote: svp67

7

And the military at the expense of whom?

[icant007]

And they will launch 2 at once, for sure. As with a torpedo salvo)

[Piramidon]

Quote: Underwater Hunter

Generally a strange statement, due to which it will be doubled? Will there be more commercial orders? Where does this forecast come from? Or indeed, the quality of the quantity replaced is gathered ..

Apparently it will be including launches on old contracts.

The head of "Roskosmos" also noted that the launch of such a number of heavy carriers will allow their manufacturer - the Center. Khrunicheva - start paying debts for overdue contracts.

[slipped]

Heavy missile contracts until 2025 - Proton-M - 25 contracts (15 commercial), Angara-A5 - 12 contracts.

[Mestny]

Few launches are bad.
Lots of starts - bad again.
# sad

[sledak]

Hurray!
We are on the right path, comrades!
Let's kill the number of drops with the number of starts !!!
URAAAAA !!!!

[Mestny]

And what. many falls?
Or is the bloody regime hiding the real figure from the fighters for all the good ?.

[Letun]

Quote: Mestny

And what. many falls?

Well, apparently not enough for you, but don’t worry, D.O. Rogozin is working very hard in this direction.

[sledak]

Here it is, the unrecognized Rogozin genius in action !!!

[bessmertniy]

Suvorov assault on space. Americans will be in the fall!

[rocket757]

This is just an application for .... but for what?
They say too much, it would be better if they did the business HOW MUCH!

[Gardamir]

As always, a letter from the future. You really report back. Say that the number of starts was doubled. And then dream all the best.

[donavi49]

Well, they reported yesterday, even with the video. It didn’t fit on the assembly - in order to hand over the shift without jambs, they scored with improvised means, right in the picture:

Conclusion - 2 rockets will still sort out this defect, since this is a package. And one is already on the Kura.

[1536]

Hopefully this will be true. There is no other left.

[Vasya_Piterskiy]

The people all good Friday! Why are you so denying on such a wonderful day!
They just won’t just say that, probably? Most likely there are orders. And Russia also needs to increase its orbital group. Well, at the expense of unsuccessful launches, since there have been so many of them over the last 2-3 years? Given that this is a super-technological and insanely complex device.

[Simargl]

Quote: Vasya_Piterskiy

Most likely there are orders.

Orders, okay, there are.
Is there a hurt? They make a rocket for two years.

[slipped]

Quote: Simargl

Quote: Vasya_Piterskiy

Most likely there are orders.

Orders, okay, there are.
Is there a hurt? They make a rocket for two years.

Collected and waiting for the launch of 8 Proton-M missiles.

[Simargl]

Quote: slipped

8 rockets Proton-M.

He talked about 9. And the Angara.
However, according to the Protons, these are leftovers and will no longer be produced.
We need another 25 missiles.
Or will the Voivode be redone? The same time.

[slipped]

Quote: Simargl

He talked about 9. And the Angara.

He said about the launches. The U5 missile for the AXNUMX rocket is now preparing for launch.

Quote: Simargl

However, according to the Protons, these are leftovers and will no longer be produced. We need another 25 missiles.

We need about 20 more missiles and TsiKh will make 5 Proton-M missiles a year, until 2023.

Quote: Simargl

Or will the Voivode be redone? The same time.

Why blast the blizzard?

[Simargl]

Quote: slipped

Why blast the blizzard?

What a blizzard?

Quote: from article

According to Rogozin, if this year only 17 launches were made, then in 2019 there will be more than 35. Of these, 10 carriers are heavy.

Well, 8 Protons were "found", Angara too. This is 9, more than 26 remain.
At the same time, brachypedia gives only 11 launches for this year, one Proton. More about 6 brechopedia or does not yet launch?

[slipped]

The one that is "blizzard". In the original RIA - "will be implemented", apparently copied here - blind or enemy. 6 more launches at least this year.

[Simargl]

Quote: slipped

The one that is "blizzard"

For it to be such, there should be 35 missiles on the slipways of varying degrees of readiness, from 50% and higher, as I understand it ... and almost 200 engines ...

[slipped]

RKZ Progress has over 40 missiles in production.

[Simargl]

Quote: slipped

RKZ Progress has over 40 missiles in production.

Now it’s 40, the cycle is 2 years, the plan is 35 for the next and 6 for this ... is this in 2020 not one? ... and where is another one?
You do not tell me to count.

[slipped]

Schoolboy? If I said that more than 40 missiles in production, this absolutely does not mean that there are only 40 missiles. The missiles are assembled and go to a warehouse or to the spaceport, the following products go to reserve. In production 40, not quantity 40, okay?

[Simargl]

Quote: slipped

If I said that more than 40 missiles in production, this absolutely does not mean that there are only 40 missiles.
...
In production 40, not quantity 40, okay?

Well, baЭ... the tradition is that "more 40"- this is usually 41-45, maybe 41-47. But up to 50. If the number is 46-49 say"to 50".
So, the rocket production cycle is 2 years, i.e. To launch 41 missiles before the end of 2019, you need to have all your 40+ on half the assembly cycle.
Let 49 pieces be in operation now. The "youngest" will be ready at the end of 2020.
What am I wrong?

[Ross xnumx]

I doubt very much the veracity of the words of this figure ...

According to Rogozin, if in the current year only 17 launches were carried out, then in 2019 there will be more than 35. Of these, 10 carriers are heavy.

Here's what they said at the object of his supervision before:

“There is no such cosmodrome in the world anymore! The entire technical complex under one roof! " - said a few minutes before the start Leonid Makridenko, general director of the Scientific and Production Enterprise All-Russian Scientific Research Institute of Electromechanics with the plant named after Josephian ". According to him, four launches are planned at Vostochny in 2017, in 2018 - seven. He said that launch services cost more than RUB 1 billion and at full load, the capacity of Vostochny will be about 20 launches, and revenue - about RUB 30 billion in year.

If you are interested, the following was spent on the construction of the cosmodrome:

The creation of the Soyuz-2 space rocket complex took 94,4 billion rubles, the supporting infrastructure - 60,8 billion rubles, and the work on the Angara - 6,1 billion rubles.

In 2016, 1 launch was made, in 2017 - 1 launch, in 2018 - 1 launch. Total, in total 3 launches. Of these, 2 are successful.
Planned 4 - launched 1. Planned 7 - launched 1 ... So far. It’s not the New Year’s Eve yet.
I DO NOT BELIEVE...
Perhaps in 2019 they will launch as many as two. But it will be a doubling, anyway ...

[Topol M]

While space managers will be led by managers like Rogozin and the team, there will be no sense. There was a heavy rocket in the USSR and it flew, with its help Buran took off, carrying capacity with four 100 tons of booster blocks, even mattresses appreciated and offered sharing for flights! And now, by 2027 they will cut money and launch 37 tons of circus and only. Offered Glushko V.P. I don’t have to restore the project / they started a criminal case and aren’t allowed to go near, they didn’t even take me to the accident commission, although the developer is the Chief Designer. So far, the shoemaker will bake the pies, etc.

[Bull Terrier]

I’m trying to understand everything - what did Rogozin do so bad that everyone always inclines him? What exactly?!

[Gardamir]

what made Rogozin so bad

So what's so good about it? Do you remember the story of the East? And when a statesman pretends to be Petrosyan, it's about trampolines.

[Bull Terrier]

PPO trampolines is an afforism. OK. Brute force. What's wrong with Oriental? Amer injected people, why such anger?) Worried about their launches?)))

[slipped]

And what about Vostochny? after the DOR was put in charge, everyone who should sit down sat down. The construction of the second stage has already begun at Vostochny.

[Bull Terrier]

Immediately the main thing is that ?!) top) means bad) how does everyone care)

[slipped]

Quote: Bull Terrier

I’m trying to understand everything - what did Rogozin do so bad that everyone always inclines him? What exactly?!

Specifically? so you can simply list. After his appointment as director of Roscosmos in May this year, in order:

1. Industry enterprises are led by experienced engineers.
2. Opened a new production of electronic component base for communication satellites in Yaroslavl at "Radiopribor".
3. A new workshop for large-sized satellite structures and a new anechoic chamber in Zheleznogorsk were commissioned.
4. A contract was signed for the creation of a new Soyuz-5 launch vehicle.
5. A contract has been signed and work has begun on the laying of the second stage of the Vostochny cosmodrome under the Angara launch vehicle.
6. There is a restructuring of the debt of the Center. Khrunichev and sharply intensified work on the creation of new space technology on the Omsk site.

therefore, probably they do not like him

[Bull Terrier]

Sadness ... How could he only ...

[Vladimir Postnikov]

Quote: slipped

2. Opened a new production of electronic component base for communication satellites in Yaroslavl at "Radiopribor".
3. A new workshop for large-sized satellite structures and a new anechoic chamber in Zheleznogorsk were commissioned.

He was appointed in May. And did you manage to do all this during the summer and half of the autumn? You yourself are not funny?

[slipped]

Not funny, these are simple facts and information about this you can read online

[Vladimir Postnikov]

Quote: slipped

Not funny, these are simple facts.

Personally, these facts, which are presented by you as arguments, will make me laugh.
These facts have occurred

After his appointment as director of Roscosmos in May this year

What does Dmitry Rogozin have to do with them?
You know, there are enough literate people on this resource, and such tricks do not really work.

[slipped]

a very simple attitude - he is the head of the organization at the enterprises of which this happened

[Vladimir Postnikov]

Quote: slipped

a very simple attitude - he is the head of the organization at the enterprises of which this happened

Me, pass.

[slipped]

Aha. It happens.

[astepanov]

Quote: Bull Terrier

what did Rogozin do so bad that he was always inclined? What exactly?!

No, Rogozin does only the good. He writes dissertations (though on a subject in which he had no ears or snouts), he added his son to a bread place - again, without the necessary education and experience), he receives a salary seven times more than the director of NASA ... Prophesies, again but, they say, a bright future awaits us ... True, hell it will wait for us, but these are already details. And what a chic motivation! We will launch missiles not because there is a need for it, but because the Khrunichev center needs to pay off its debts. In general, the giant of thought, the father of the Russian cosmos and person, you know someone close to whom.
Here, by the way, is the question: there was so much talk about the fact that the space electric transport system was already in the ointment! And the drip cooling system has already been tested, and ion engines of record power are ready, and the reactor, and the turbine - and even initially threatened to put it into space in 2018. It is clear that it will be necessary to take out in parts and mount in space, but then - if you like it - to the moon, if you like it - to planets up to the Kuiper belt, both economically and many times ... And no superheavy rocket is needed, especially since money they’ve been sawing it for not a dozen years, but morally it becomes obsolete at exactly the same speed as financing is being consumed. But Mr. Rogozin is somehow suspiciously silent about this electric transport system. Or, as usual - another fake?

[Bull Terrier]

1 did you read his thesis? 2 is his son so bad? 3. Since May 5 months have passed. What did he specifically ruin?

[astepanov]

Quote: Bull Terrier

1 did you read his thesis? 2 is his son so bad? 3. Since May 5 months have passed. What did he specifically ruin?

I answer. Rogozin has no technical background. At the journalism department of Moscow State University and at the Institute of Marxism-Leninism, which DO graduated from, they do not teach physics, mathematics, or technology. Until 2014 D.O. the technician had not the slightest relation to her: he fed on politics in which he darted between left and right, between nationalists, democrats, liberals and others, looking for the upper and sitting on the lower, and everywhere trying to lead and direct. He visited deputies (unsuccessfully), and impeached Yeltsin (unsuccessfully), and headed the People’s Party (stupidly), and negotiated with the European Union (which is unknown), and even became ambassador extraordinary and authorized in 2009. since 2014 - oversaw the construction of the spaceport, but it was not he who designed it. He was only a pusher. And then - a doctorate!
Can you imagine how many nights our hero did not sleep, independently studying university books, bison mechanics, physics, sopromat, chemistry and other mathematics? Imagine how at night he sneaks into the laboratory of Moscow State University to do a physics workshop on his own, or puts on an acid-burned robe to do chemistry, or toggles with a soldering iron, collecting parts on a circuit board ... But all the wisdom was overcome by D.O. and became a doctor! For some two years, and without interruption from overwork, our hero mastered the university programs on his own, wrote a dissertation, went through a bunch of procedures through academic councils and the Higher Attestation Commission and received the coveted diploma! This is what genius means.
Here is an extract from the position of the Higher Attestation Commission: "Criteria that must be met by dissertations for obtaining academic degrees
9. A dissertation for the degree of Doctor of Science should be a scientific and qualifying work, in which, on the basis of the research carried out by the author, theoretical provisions have been developed, the totality of which can be qualified as a scientific achievement, or a scientific problem that has an important political, socio-economic, cultural or economic significance, or new scientifically grounded technical, technological or other solutions are outlined, the implementation of which makes a significant contribution to the development of the country. "
What kind of research could D.O., burdened with the darkness of state duties and completely illiterate technically, have performed? All the doctors of technical sciences whom I know have been doing their research for many years - this is the specificity of this work. And only Mr. Rogozin instantly managed to study, and check, and test, and publish, and test, and issue, and defend ... Do you believe in this nonsense? Me not. BEFORE. the same doctor as I am a ballerina. Even the "academician" Kadyrov is more honest, since he is an honorary and not a real academician. And Rogozin does not cause any feelings, except contempt, in me.
PS The son of Rogozin is now riveting article by article together with the guys from Moscow State University. In chemistry and materials science, in which he understands the same way as dad in technology. Also, you see, soon the doctor will be.

[Vladimir Postnikov]

Do not get so angry at these trolls like Bull Terrier and Slippery (aka Slippery). They both understand everything perfectly. They have other specific goals. PR and PR again.
It is obvious that the scientific degree of Doctor of Technical Sciences Dmitry Rogozin is capable of evoking not respect for this person, but only a feeling of disgust. And even the Bull Terrier and Slippery understand this.

[Consultant]

Quote: astepanov

Can you imagine how many nights our hero did not sleep, independently studying university books, bison mechanics, physics, sopromat, chemistry and other mathematics? Imagine how at night he sneaks into the laboratory of Moscow State University to attend a physics workshop on his own, or puts on an acid-burned robe to do chemistry, or toggles with a soldering iron, collecting parts on a circuit board ...

Colorfully. But not relevant.

The specialty in which Rogozin, so dear to you, defended his thesis - 20.02.01/XNUMX/XNUMX Armament theory, military-technical policy, armament system.

So you ... shot by idle.

[astepanov]

Quote: Consultant

The specialty in which Rogozin, so dear to you, defended his thesis - 20.02.01/XNUMX/XNUMX Armament theory, military-technical policy, armament system. So you ... shot by idle.

And what does that change? In this specialty, you can defend a doctoral degree without technical and military education, without performing independent research, without interruption from your main job, for some year and a half? Do not tell my sneakers, venerable.

[Consultant]

Quote: astepanov

And what does that change?

All of the above

Quote: astepanov

Can you imagine how many nights our hero did not sleep, independently studying university books, bison mechanics, physics, sopromat, chemistry and other mathematics? Imagine how at night he sneaks into the laboratory of Moscow State University to attend a physics workshop on his own, or puts on an acid-burned robe to do chemistry, or toggles with a soldering iron, collecting parts on a circuit board ...

for this specialty superfluous. What you were told.

Thus, your slippers ... are inviolable. And before writing the sheets here, it would be nice to ask the subject. I am only about this, and about nothing else.

[Vladimir Postnikov]

An interesting link: http://svpressa.ru/war21/article/215168
I did not know the latest details about Zvezda, although I also live in this city and knew this plant in Soviet times. Many defense enterprises were corporatized, and under Vladimir Putin too. In general, nothing surprising. But, the hero of this article, Dmitry Rogozin, appears there again. Another argument in which to dip his PR people. Someone here praised the Russian mosquito fleet. It will be a cold shower for them.

[Vladimir Postnikov]

Want specifics?

Do you want songs? - I have them!

Dmitry Rogozin lobbied for the allocation of 50 billion rubles for the serial production of IL-114 passenger aircraft at the end of 2016. Two years earlier, all Russian air carriers had abandoned future purchases of this aircraft for passenger transportation on local Russian airlines, which was confirmed by the Ministry of Industry and Trade. Experts offered to buy (which was done) the entire production reserve of the IL-114 in Uzbekistan, which is more than enough for the needs of the RF Ministry of Defense (patrol aircraft), but not to revive the production of passenger aircraft. Nevertheless, the aforementioned 50 billion rubles. were allocated in 2016. And in the spring of 2017, Dmitry Rogozin's son was appointed general director of IL.
So you think the low-wing passenger IL-114 will fly across the expanses of Russia with its regional runways? Or do you think that African countries will buy them?
....! Even in 1993, it was clear to specialists that if such an aircraft was to be made, then it should be the IL-112. See: Resolution of the Council of Ministers - Government of the Russian Federation of 04.11.1993 No. 1119 "On the creation of a multipurpose passenger aircraft Il-112 for local airlines."

[Lieutenant Teterin]

You can double the amount. But first you need to replace Rogozin with someone more adequate.

[Voyager]

Behave like a herd of monkeys. Give you that bad news, that good, as now, one and the same whining with evil irony. Have you done anything useful to solve problems in astronautics yourself to behave this way?

[Henderson]

Because this is not news, but the statement of a man who has already made dozens of unfulfilled promises and in which the Russian cosmos has slipped into such a hole.
The news is when they have done something and achieved something and have been informed about it.
Feel the difference.

[Ryzhik]

Sorry, but why did you decide that it good news?

[astepanov]

Quote: Voyager

Give you that bad news, that good, as now, one and the same whining with evil irony

What's the good news? What, are we sending rovers? An automatic station to asteroids, or to Mercury, or to outer planets? Maybe something better than Hubble or Webb? No? Say, have the Americans already done all this?
And, we support the Khrunichev plant so that it makes rockets in order to pay for them. And who pays taxes for this? Rogozin? Well, he has a regressive taxation scale, and he lives with our taxes.
There are no people here who are against space programs, but a coherent program is needed, without ten shuffling annually in order to write off wasted money, with visible results. But they have been gone for almost thirty years - since the time when "Energia" was destroyed, NOTHING has been done except eating up money - and there are not many of them in the country. The money that went into stillborn projects (including "Angara") would have been more than enough to not beg, begging on TV for the treatment of sick children.

Quote: slipped

1. Industry enterprises are led by experienced engineers.

Excuse me, who determined that the engineers are experienced? Rogozin? But he has zero qualifications, for nothing that he bought (or asked for) a doctorate in technical sciences.

[Lingazza]

"Will be doubled" ..
Always in his future tense ..
As taught at the School of Marxism-Leninism.
Interestingly, he studied exact and technical sciences there, or only Jules Verne "connected" with the classics of communism ??.

[alex aircraft]

Rogozin is the man of the word! Once said, it means it will be so! I don’t understand one thing — why do I need to do a new overweight? What prevents the pH from reviving energy. I flew 2 times successfully.

[ALEX_SHTURMAN]

And where will they come from if now the cost of launching Falcon Heavy 90mln S at Proton 115mln. Moreover, Falcon Heavy puts 22t into Geo-Transition orbit, and Proton only 5.5t. Even let the cost of launches be reduced by optimizing costs. Anyway, Proton is not a competitor to Falcon. Everyone laughed at Mask, and they already went around our entire Roskosmos. One company with a total of 6 thousand employees. for 2017, 17 launches against ours 16. This is not just depressing, where did the strategists of Roscosmos look? Why in fat 2000, when denyuzhki flowed from the launches did not invest in development ???

[Million]

The general’s son, as always, amazes!

[alex aircraft]

In the so-called Brezhnev stagnation, the most complex Energy-Buran system was made in 11 years and now with the Angara the second dozen picks !! m-daa !!

[Ryzhik]

the number of missile launches will be doubled

Indeed, why not cut twice as much money over a given period of time. And dropping empty rockets is just as profitable as blowing up empty arms depots. The Soviet legacy is a real Klondike, otherwise all gas, oil, timber, diamonds ...

[Hole puncher]

in the current year, only 17 launches were carried out, then in 2019 there will be more than 35. Of these, 10 carriers are heavy.

And where did he count 17? Together with Kuru there will be only 11, although this is the launch of ESA, where are the missing 6?

[Henderson]

The same place as the doubling next year.

[slipped]

There have already been 12 launches this year along with Kuru. Learn to count correctly. Six more launches without Kourou and two to Kourou.

[Henderson]

this year was carried out only 17 starts

Learn to read correctly. Will implemented and было implemented - this is not the same thing.

[Hole puncher]

Quote: slipped

There have already been 12 launches this year along with Kuru.

What does it change?

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Learn to count correctly. Six more launches without Kourou and two to Kourou.

Learn to read correctly. Do you mow near Peskov?

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Quote: ALEX_SHTURMAN

And where will they come from if now the cost of launching Falcon Heavy 90mln S at Proton 115mln.

Services for launching the Proton-M LV at ILS cost ~ $ 65 million.

Quote: ALEX_SHTURMAN

Moreover, the Falcon Heavy takes 22t to Geo-Transition orbit, and Proton only 5.5t

Proton-M from the Briz-M RB brings 7100 kg to the geo-transitional orbit. The maximum payload output by this carrier was 6871 kg. Satellite Echostar 21.

Quote: ALEX_SHTURMAN

Even let the cost of launches be reduced by optimizing costs. Anyway, Proton is not a competitor to Falcon.

All contracts previously concluded for the Proton-M launch vehicle are in progress. Until 2023, 25 launches of this rocket have been contracted. Subsequently, from 2022, in Russia, the company "S7 Space Transport Systems" will begin launches of the "Soyuz-5" LV, which is a direct competitor to the F9 in the middle weight category. In heavy weight - "Angara-5M" launch vehicle - 27 tons per LEO, the selling price of which on the external market will be comparable to "Proton-M". To compete with FH in Russia, the Angara A5B launch vehicle is being created, which allows 37 tons to be transferred to LEO.

Quote: ALEX_SHTURMAN

Everyone laughed at Mask, and they already went around our entire Roskosmos. One company with a total of 6 thousand employees. for 2017, 17 launches against our 16.

In 2017, Roscosmos completed 20 launches. https://www.roscosmos.ru/24523/

Quote: ALEX_SHTURMAN

This is not just depressing, where did the strategists of Roscosmos look? Why in fat 2000, when denyuzhki flowed from the launches did not invest in development ???

Have you come up with? Financing in the industry appeared after 2006. Money has been invested in many space programs. Remind which ones?

[Henderson]

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Money has been invested in many space programs. Remind which ones?

Remind please. It is very interesting which of them is implemented.

[slipped]

Creation of CRC Angara, creation of CRC C1 on Vostochny, a fleet of Earth remote sensing satellites, a fleet of communication satellites GSS, Spektr-R, and the deployment of GLONASS - all of this was included in FKP-2005-2015.

[Henderson]

And where is the hangar? Where is GLONASS-K? How does a start in the East work?
Of this list, only Spektr-R is the reality, and they began to do it back in the 90s (as well as the Angara and GLONASS, by the way).
The list for a cosmic superpower is somehow small.

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Quote: Henderson

And where is the hangar?

In Moscow in the workshop. Preparing for the second test.

Quote: Henderson

Where is GLONASS-K?

In space, on trials. There are 9 devices on the slipway. They will start up when Hurricane-M all ends.

Quote: Henderson

How does a start in the East work?

Perfectly. Next month, another launch in the first quarter of next year.

Quote: Henderson

Of this list, only Spektr-R is the reality, and they began to do it back in the 90s (as well as the Angara and GLONASS, by the way).

Wrong. KPK and RN are slightly different concepts. URM RN Angara was made in 2004, KRK LV "Angara" in 2014. GLONASS had to be reassembled. Radioastron - created on a new platform, unlike the project from the 90s.

Quote: Henderson

The list for a cosmic superpower is somehow small.

Well, then add the launch of manned ships and station modules. OK?

[Henderson]

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In Moscow in the workshop. Preparing for the second test.

why doesn't it fly if several years have passed since the first test?

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In space, on trials. There are 9 devices on the slipway. They will start up when Hurricane-M all ends.

that is, the program until 2015 failed.

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Perfectly. Next month, another launch in the first quarter of next year.

how many starts have there been since the launch was built?

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Radioastron - created already on the new platform, unlike the project from the 90s.

assembled and good. One device in 15 years.

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Well, then add the launch of manned ships and station modules. OK?

Not OK. Manned ships of the 60s. Where are the new ones?
And what about the modules of the station, where is the module Science, which they promised to launch 10 years ago?

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Quote: Henderson

why doesn't it fly if several years have passed since the first test?

Because the decision to launch is made by the customer and the main financier of the project - our Ministry of Defense. Flight tests will be continued next year. So far, the Ministry of Defense is using the Proton-M rocket to launch its heavy satellites.

Quote: Henderson

that is, the program until 2015 failed.

Surround It was decided to replace the satellites in orbit after they fail due to old age. Five new Uragan-M satellites are in the queue, the next one is flying today. Then K will fly and an even newer one will be tested - K2.

Quote: Henderson

how many starts have there been since the launch was built?

Two. A third will be soon.

Quote: Henderson

assembled and good. One device in 15 years.

Russia has about 150 operating spacecraft in different orbits.

Quote: Henderson

Not OK. Manned ships of the 60s. Where are the new ones?

Where's the popcorn? Soyuz-MS is a new spacecraft for the ISS. When a new station appears, another ship will fly to it.

Quote: Henderson

And what about the modules of the station, where is the module Science, which they promised to launch 10 years ago?

And what about the rest of the modules in orbit? I see, I don’t see there? In the shop, the module "Science" is being prepared for transfer to the KIS at "Baikonur".

[Henderson]

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For the time being, the Defense Ministry is using the Proton-M rocket to launch its heavy satellites.

that is, even the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation prefers the ancient Proton to the unparalleled Angara. This is an indicator.

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Then K will fly and an even newer one will be tested - K2

they had to fly long ago. The GLONASS grouping is now incomplete.

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Where's the popcorn? Soyuz-MS is a new spacecraft for the ISS.

Yes Yes. T-72B3 is a completely new tank. Su-35 is a completely new aircraft. This music will be eternal.

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When a new station appears, another ship will fly to it.

and when will it appear?

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And the rest of the modules, what in orbit does not count?

not counted. The plan is still not implemented. And this means that he is worthless.

[ALEX_SHTURMAN]

Remind, as well as remind where the MLM that has been sawing since 2000, where at least one launch of interplanetary research stations, where at least the start of testing a new Federation ship, where is the rocket under the ship? I’m not an all-rounder; the crisis in the space industry is obvious, strange that you don’t see it. One company, numbering 6000 people, produces as much per year as our Roscosmos. Our productivity is not just low; it is ten times lower! Since 2000, manufacturers of launch vehicles have had no problems with contracts, there have been many launches of both foreign and ours, and they received denyuzhki not small, that's just where they did not know, but could invest in development. And all this, as you might think there, I am not at all happy.

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Quote: ALEX_SHTURMAN

Remind, as well as remind where the MLM that has been sawing since 2000, where at least one launch of interplanetary research stations, where at least the start of testing a new Federation ship, where is the rocket under the ship?

No problem. The launch of MLM-U next year in November, AMS, as part of the joint venture, was launched by our three rockets - Mars-Express, Venera-Express and Exomars-2016 - at all stations Russian devices, the next, with a Russian landing module, Exomars-2020 through year. The new Federation ship will be assembled in 2021, its elements have been in testing for a long time, the Soyuz-5 rocket is being created for it by 2022, a contract was recently signed for it.

Quote: ALEX_SHTURMAN

I’m not an all-rounder; the crisis in the space industry is obvious, strange that you don’t see it.

No one denies problems. But you don’t see the real work either. Or do not want to see. You are so comfortable.

[ALEX_SHTURMAN]

Listen, I worked at RSC Energia for 5 years, a friend of mine a classmate still works there, I perfectly saw everything with my own eyes. I have never seen how many idlers work there, how everything is dragged on to horror, what kind of labor productivity there is. All the projects you write about go on for decades! People have time to grow old! What are the successes there. There you need to fire people in batches, but those who really work to raise salaries and increase control, but it came to the point where they could not find out where the hole in the household compartment was! How much the leader has changed in recent years. every two years a new leader, is that normal in your opinion? You change the workshop more often, your workshop will stop working, and then the head of the Corporation is a madhouse!

[slipped]

Another officer's daughter? What projects "have been going on for decades"? That "ZEM" does not release "Soyuz" and "Progress"? Releases, fly regularly. That the development of a new spacecraft is not going on? Coming soon, complex tests. What's not assembled "Berth"? No, it's assembled. That the tests of NEM layouts are not going on? They are coming. What are you speaking about?

[ALEX_SHTURMAN]

Dozens of years is dozens of years! No daughter of an officer! I say I live in Mr. Korolev and I worked for RKK myself! Go look right at the entrance to the city is the unfinished center of Glonas, they’ve been building money since 2006, it’s been scammed nemerno, they didn’t put Nicago. Since 2000, MLM has been sawing for 20 years. And the mayor of Mr. Korolev is generally a separate issue, only the curbs in his head. The city administration is a thief! Ship Federation and before that Clipper since 2000. RUSSIA has not launched a single interplanetary station in 30 years! All projects are not ours, you write about the cat! YOUR laughter is very strange and not at all appropriate. It can be seen so convenient for you not to notice the problem!

[slipped]

Exactly, the daughter of an officer living in the Queen Especially about the "Glonas Center" inserted. About MLM too. Russia just launched those interplanetary stations about which I am writing. About the rest, you are a complete layman on the topic.

[Consultant]

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Especially about the "Glonas Center" inserted

Could you clarify your point? The GLONASS building in the Queen of Moscow Region does exist, and it is really unfinished.

[slipped]

What does the unfinished building have to do with the space segment? The MCC is located elsewhere. OJSC Glonass is engaged in programs to promote civil services, and these programs work.

[Consultant]

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What does the unfinished building have to do with the space segment?

At the moment - no, because it is not completed.

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MCC located elsewhere

I do not understand. In which - another?

The picture shows part of the TsNIIMASH territory in Korolev. On the left in the picture - the corner of the building of the "new MCC-a", on the right - part of the 17th, EMNIS, building TsNIIMASH. If the GLONASS building were transparent, the "old MCC" could be seen behind it.

I will note - you have not explained what got you so "inserted". And where

[slipped]

Reread the conversation carefully. A man is trying to cast a "shadow on the fence" by pulling an unfinished building by the ears to the space program. Why did he remember the "unfinished building" and forgot about the correction station, for example? Glonass works in both the military and civilian segments, what's wrong? And where to put it depends on your depravity of course.

[ALEX_SHTURMAN]

You yourself are a shadow on the wattle fence, you are specifically indicated by the problems that exist that you deign only to joke the Joker! He does not even know where the MCC is located connoisseur.

[astepanov]

Quote: slipped

No problem. The launch of MLM-U next year in November, the AMC, as part of the joint venture, was launched by our three missiles - Mars Express, Venus Express and Exomars-2016

This is the same as the delivery of crews to the ISS: these missions are not Russian. And about those missions that will be, you might not even mention: as usual, they will first be transferred, and then replaced with "even more further". We know they passed.

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The new Federation ship will be assembled in 2021

... Maybe they will, but they are unlikely to fly - as Zarya and Clipper did not end with anything. By the way, it took the USSR only 5 years to build Soyuz. They have been digging with the Federation for 12 years, and at least two more years are ahead.

[slipped]

The aforementioned missions are joint and the data from them were obtained by our specialists from the IKI RAS in the framework of joint projects. In contrast, let's say, from our own devices on "Curiosity" or "BepiColombo" where our participation is like in a foreign project. The launch date for Exomars 2020 is also known.

[Topgun]

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Services for launching the Proton-M LV at ILS cost ~ $ 65 million.

But what about insurance?
IMHO if there is "extra" money, you need to create a financial structure that would not expensively insure launches

[bogart047]

and will Rogozin's ryah also become twice as wide?

[Allexxx]

The quantity is clear, but what about the quality? Although, for "cuts", participation is important, not the result.

[Ross xnumx]

Rogozin or whoever else - what's the difference. What will change from this if the system is a greasy deck. You, who found the Soviet era, remember how great scientists and figures passed away. "Suddenly ... untimely ... after a long illness ... talent has died out ..." And these are driven from place to place. Komsomol specialists, general leaders. It makes no difference to them that they plow the spaces of the Non-Black Earth Region with spacecraft, that they launch stools into space. The widest range of applications from the head of the warehouse to the minister, from the journalist to the curator ... Yes, and children, not our couple, whom you touch either a genius, or a nugget, or a genius of judo, or an order bearer ... But what did you want? You forgot this, but they remember by heart:

... "Fighters do not thin the line,
A son must become a hero,
If father is a hero. ”

It remains to find out what they are fighting for? I have an impression - for the place at the feeder and the spoon ...

[Ryzhik]

“Fighters do not thin out the ranks,
A son must become a hero,
If father is a hero "

Yes, and children, not our couple, whom either touch a genius, or a nugget, or a genius of judo, or an order bearer

Son - Alexei Rogozin (b. 1983), since 2016 - Deputy Head of the Department of Property Relations of the Ministry of Defense of Russia

It remains to find out what they are fighting for?

In my opinion, this is a rhetorical question.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

the main thing is that the number of accidents would not double

[Sailor]

[/ quote] due to what will be doubled? Will there be more commercial orders? .. [/ quote]
Welcome
In theory, there should be no problems with orders: the project of the Sphere satellite constellation, work with the ISS (or better, its own station in the future), the Moon, you can roll your lip to Mars
There would be money, where to find find))

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Quote: Puncher

What does it change?

You have 11 and not 12.

Quote: Puncher

Learn to read correctly. Do you mow near Peskov?

Read your post yourself. 17 launches this year from Russian spaceports and 3 from Kuru.

November 3 - Glonass-M No. 57
November 6 - MetОp-С
November 6 - Progress MC-10
December 3 - Union MS-11
December 14 - CSG-1
December 25 - Annunciation No. 3
December 26 - Canopus-B No. 5, Canopus-B No. 6
December 27 - EgyptSat-A

[slipped]

I apologize on November 16 - MS-10 Progress And MetОp-С flies around Moscow on November 7th.

[Hole puncher]

Quote: slipped

Read your post yourself. 17 launches this year from Russian spaceports and 3 from Kuru.

Where do you get so stubborn from? Read verbatim in the article

According to Rogozin, if this year было only 17 launches completed

It was - it means it has already been implemented, that is, we supposedly have it in fact. I repeat for those born in an armored train, where are 17 launches made?

[prorab_ak]

Where do you get so stubborn from? Read verbatim in the article

How where ??? This is the PR service of Roskosmos. They finally allocated a budget at the end of the year , 100 rubles per post in the comments

[slipped]

So it's better to read the original, and not "stoned copy-paste" right? in the original there is no word "was", but there is a word "will".

[Yasir]

The main thing is that Rogozin, so that without unnecessary chatter and boast .. And then you will jinx and fall as recently and drill holes))))) Space defense loves silence! Act ..

[Tomich3]

In addition, at the end of October, Rogozin announced that specialists of the Roscosmos corporation would take part in the development of an extra-heavy rocket designed for the implementation of a program for the exploration and exploration of the moon.
Master Russia for a start ....

[Avior]

sensors bent as needed? otherwise it’s

[zloijjet]

God help you ...

[ROBIN-SON]

Here the whole country is shaking, and you are talking about Rogozin and trampolines.
Judging by the media publications, workers in the RK are paid pennies. If a block is hammered by a sledgehammer, then what is its level? And put another controller to him, how much will this rocket cost?
There is a paradox in the country. The salary gap between managers and executives is off the charts. But the trouble is not even that. Are they paid such salaries by work? According to the results of labor? I doubt it.
And the worst thing is that there is no policy in this matter. As if in the chairs of the leaders are relatives of relatives, children.

[slipped]

The salary of the employees who collect Soyuz rockets at the Baikonur cosmodrome is about 40-50 thousand rubles a month. Engineers supervising the assembly of the rocket receive about 80-100 thousand rubles. https://ria.ru/space/20181018/1530999483.html

[ROBIN-SON]

Is it hard to say whether it is a lot or a little? It all depends on the region where people live. If Baikonur, then probably the shift method? But for the Russian Federation, it seems like average salaries. Then the question is - why do rockets fall?

[sgazeev]

Two more troubles of Russia were added by two more Dima-lawyer and Dima-trampoline.

[earloop]

"Next year, Roscosmos plans to double the number of launches of carrier rockets" - If technical and organizational measures are taken to improve the reliability of the missiles themselves and infrastructure. providing missile launch, this is the right decision.

[Е2 - Е4]

The good news is when such leadership talents can be calm http://www.ilyushin.org/about/executives/ceo/

[Allexxx]

Quote: Е2 - Е4

The good news is when such leadership talents can be calm http://www.ilyushin.org/about/executives/ceo/

Just saw - Rogozin Jr. has three children! It is necessary to provide grandchildren with apartments - and grandfather gave the command to increase by 2 times the number of attempts to launch rockets into space!