The crew of the ship "Nord" returned to Russia

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Urgent reports of the fate of the crew of the Russian fishing vessel “Nord” come. It became known that after lengthy negotiations, the “Nord” crew was exchanged for Ukrainian sailors. This information is confirmed by the press service of the Ombudsman of the Russian Federation. This adds that among the exchanged captain of a fishing vessel is not.

The crew of the ship "Nord" returned to Russia




It is noted that the exchange took place, and the members of the “Nord” crew are already in the Crimea.

Recall that during the actual pirate capture of the Nord by the Ukrainian border guards, there were 10 people on board, including the captain. Two managed to escape to Russia earlier. The captain continues to languish in the dungeons of the SBU, and he faces a real prison term - up to 5 years in prison. Seven Russian sailors went through the exchange procedure for seven seamen of Ukraine from the YAMK-0041 vessel detained as part of the “response action”.

The Nord itself is located in the port of the city of Berdyansk. Ukraine stated that the vessel was arrested and will now be put up for auction. Starting price - 60 thousand dollars. So far, there were no people willing to take part in the auction.

It is reported that the Russian side is making every effort to ensure that Ukraine will release the captain of the fishing vessel Vladimir Gorbenko. His health condition deteriorated significantly during his detention on the territory of Ukraine.
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  1. -28
    30 October 2018 17: 59
    The captain of the Crimean ship is working for the SBU, most likely ... because SBUshniki will not exchange it. The crew of the ship was already 10 people, despite the fact that this vessel of the Soviet project even went with 80-5 crew members even in the 6s, when the roles were distributed and the state did not spare money. And now, as many as 10 people were recruited for this trough, for what purpose, did they reap the money for the private trader?)). Surely the extra ones were recruited only for this flight + cook, what for the cook on this trough, they go out for a maximum of 2 days on it ... in general, there are a lot of such things that immediately say that the captain was a sent goat ...
    1. +6
      30 October 2018 18: 11
      By the way, on the detained Ukrainian poacher YaMK-0041 there were exactly 5 people of Ukrainian citizens (a typical number of people for this scam), there was an inaccuracy in the text of the news, and they took 2 on another poaching boat not far from Dolzhanskaya Spit ...
      1. +3
        30 October 2018 18: 30
        Quote: shans2

        By the way, on the detained Ukrainian poacher YaMK-0041 there were exactly 5 people of Ukrainian citizens (a typical number of people for this scam), there was an inaccuracy in the text of the news, and they took 2 on another poaching boat not far from Dolzhanskaya Spit ...

        So they were not exchanged for "Ukrainian sailors" as the article says, but for these poachers, for criminals.
        On the border of Crimea with Ukraine, an exchange of Nord sailors took place for Ukrainian poachers, who have been caught by the FSB border service in recent months.
        The exchange took place in a 7 for 7 format at the Armyansk checkpoint. The captain of the ship and the Nord itself still remain in Ukraine. At the border of the freed sailors, the head of the Crimea Aksenov and the head of the FSB for Crimea Palagin meet.
        1. Arh
          0
          30 October 2018 21: 46
          If the captain and his Nord are not released, then the action will be done, in his exchange and Nord !!!
      2. 0
        31 October 2018 17: 00
        Quote: shans2
        By the way, on the detained Ukrainian poacher YaMK-0041 there were exactly 5 people of Ukrainian citizens (a typical number of people for this scam), there was an inaccuracy in the text of the news, and they took 2 on another poaching boat not far from Dolzhanskaya Spit ...


        Poachers from small boats did not participate in this exchange.
        "... seven sailors of the Kerch ship" Nord "were exchanged for seven fishermen detained in Crimea from the Ukrainian ships" YAMK-0041 "and" YOD 21-05 "


        0041 people were detained at YaMK-5, the captain was not exchanged, he is sitting in a pre-trial detention center in Simferopol, one sailor Gennady Otychko was released to Ukraine due to the death of his mother. (by the way, for the same reason the Ukrainians didn’t let our sailor off Nord) - there remained 3 people for exchange.
        21 people were detained at 05-4 YaOD - a total of 7 people were exchanged.
        Well, about Nord we all know from 10 our sailors 2 were able to return to Russia, the captain in the dungeons of the SBU,
        the exchange went 7 to 7.

        sources:
        https://ru.krymr.com/a/news-kapitan-ukrainskogo-sudna-yamk-0041-ostaetsa-v-krymu/29573679.html
        https://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/201810142234-pmly.htm
        http://timer-odessa.net/news/krimskie_pogranichniki_zaderjali_ribolovnoe_sudno_s_ukraintsami_na_bortu_815.html
    2. +8
      30 October 2018 18: 13
      The captain is an excellent occasion to capture another dozen UkroReykh hooves (larger displacement and cargo).
      1. +10
        30 October 2018 18: 38
        Quote: Bearded
        Captain is a great occasion

        The capture of the ship Nord was an excellent occasion to block the Kerch Strait for Ukrainian shipping. soldier Piracy is piracy in Africa, and if the Russian Foreign Ministry has decided on the terminology for assessing the actions of the Ukrainian junta, then it is necessary to continue to act consistently in accordance with generally accepted international norms in relation to pirates. Otherwise, no one will take seriously the "concern" of the Russian Foreign Ministry. And permissiveness sooner or later ends in tragedy, in this case for the whole people.
        1. -1
          30 October 2018 21: 36
          I now remembered Captain Blood, but then it was the 18th century, and now the 21st. What now to send caravans of the merchant fleet, accompanied by warships, always and everywhere?
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    3. +8
      30 October 2018 19: 03
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      Quote: shans2
      The captain of the Crimean ship is working for the SBU, most likely ... because SBUshniki will not exchange it.

      You shave like a gray gelding. Both captains are not exchanged. Your wretched mind Bandera power ...
      He thinks that outside the Bandera they will be received and warmed up, as during that war they were warmed up in Canada and the states of executioners and traitors of Ukraine. It will not be so. Now here in Germany they are waiting for migrant workers from Ukraine, but what about the epidemic of anthrax in the Odessa region? Prior to this, Nile fever ... Someone still doubts why the Americans have deployed 14 bio-laboratories throughout Ukraine? Poles with Fritz will not help you, let alone Amerza.
      1. -4
        30 October 2018 22: 34
        Quote: Balu
        epidemic of anthrax in Odessa region

        Localized. 5 people are recovering. But the state of the cattle burial grounds, because of which all this happens, is sad! These are certainly "American biolaboratories"! laughing Especially the Pasteur Institute! He just specializes in all sorts of similar ones. It was his experts who took samples in the south of the region and localized the foci.
        But this "American biolaboratory" needs to be bombed! lol together with its contents (dangerous species were collected there since the USSR)
        1. 0
          31 October 2018 20: 22
          Quote: Antares
          Localized. 5 people recover

          A speedy recovery for them, and what form: local or generalized?
          But this "American biolaboratory" needs to be bombed! together with the contents (dangerous species are collected there from the USSR)
          fool fool fool Did you understand what you said? Do you have any idea what it is and what are the consequences? am
    4. +10
      30 October 2018 19: 45
      shans2 (shans2) ... And now, as many as 10 people were recruited on this trough, for what purpose, did they squeeze money for the private owner?)) ....

      one should not so aggressively demonstrate his impatience and illiteracy. This is not a tug, this is a fisherman.
      So, "Nord" - CChS 225:
      Class and type of vessel seiner-trawler, Displacement 186,8 tons
      Length 26,49 m, Width 6,53 m, Height 3,06 m
      Draft 2, 36 m
      The autonomy of swimming 10 day
      Crew 11 people.

      I know what I'm talking about, before the army he worked for 8 months on the SChS. They caught hamsa, starting from the strait to Batumi, then put horsefish on a light bulb, and then sprat near Zmein.
      The crew was:
      Captain, captain, navigator
      Starmekh, mechanic, minder
      Boatswain + three sailors
      Cook.
    5. +2
      30 October 2018 20: 25
      I don’t believe ... If he was "in business" he would have been released with everyone, so as not to arouse suspicion. I, at least, would do just that.
      1. +2
        30 October 2018 22: 47
        Correctly. They do not let the captain go, I hope so far, because a criminal case has been opened against him. Now they will start some sort of terrorist Sentsov to demand an exchange, ё-mine ...
  2. +2
    30 October 2018 17: 59
    Already steal some kind of pasteur and exchange ... or some kind of fascist ..
    1. +17
      30 October 2018 18: 06
      Quote: Svarog
      or some other fascist ..

      The Nazis do not need to be exchanged, they must immediately be in the pit ...
      1. +2
        30 October 2018 20: 00
        Fascist and sailor - different species. And about the pit - this is the point, I would also take the skin of the drum)))
    2. +3
      30 October 2018 18: 07
      Yeah, rolled down to a barter.
      1. +1
        30 October 2018 18: 14
        Slave trade.
        Whoever you lead with is what you need.
      2. 0
        30 October 2018 18: 27
        Exchange as an exchange. And before that happened.
    3. 0
      30 October 2018 20: 33
      For a box of biscuits and a bag of coal, it (the pastor) in a gift box Ukrainian couriers directly from Kiev to anywhere in Russia will deliver)))
  3. +9
    30 October 2018 18: 00
    apparently they even ours, perhaps they just promised to conduct searches of ukroinsky pelvis for even longer negative but now we need to return the captain home, and then the ship, to pick up a couple of ukroinsky pelvis in exchange for our NORD.
    1. +12
      30 October 2018 18: 03
      Quote: ANCIENT
      just promised

      This is not the case when you need to promise something. You just need to choke monopaceous and that's it.
    2. +9
      30 October 2018 18: 11
      Quote: ANCIENT
      apparently they even ours, perhaps they just promised to conduct searches of ukroinsky pelvis for even longer negative but now we need to return the captain home, and then the ship, to pick up a couple of ukroinsky pelvis in exchange for our NORD.

      "nord" for Ukraine chumadan without a handle. no one will simply buy it, because as soon as the op leaves the port, ours will immediately return it to its rightful owner. although the Sumerians can cut this ship for scrap metal, they will.
      ps I welcome the crew at home, the captain - courage and patience!
      1. 0
        31 October 2018 15: 44
        No one will buy it because of the fish rotted in it. It’s easier to leave, let the Ukrainians breathe.
    3. +2
      30 October 2018 18: 15
      Let dragging their pelvis dragging dry.
    4. +2
      30 October 2018 18: 17
      The captain is likely to be exchanged for some of the ukronodeumki who are on our quitche .. And the ship will not go anywhere from Berdyansk. Unless the aliens take it with them.
  4. -1
    30 October 2018 18: 10
    And why, nevertheless, they could not exchange the captain, rather strange.
    1. -4
      30 October 2018 18: 16
      Yes, they cocked him already in the Gestapo.
    2. +4
      30 October 2018 18: 17
      Quote: kefan
      And why, nevertheless, they could not exchange the captain, rather strange.

      SIMFEROPOL, October 30. / TASS /. The Russian side is ready to exchange the captain of the seiner "Nord" detained by Ukraine for the captain of the ship "YAMK-0041" detained in Crimea, Lyudmila Lubina, human rights ombudsman in the Republic of Crimea, told TASS on Tuesday.
    3. +2
      30 October 2018 19: 04
      Quote: kefan
      And why, nevertheless, they could not exchange the captain, rather strange.

      Their captain did not return either
    4. -1
      30 October 2018 22: 44
      Quote: kefan
      And why, nevertheless, they could not exchange the captain, rather strange.

      crew members were released. And the captain was charged.
      Neither the Russian Federation nor Ukraine were exchanged before the trial.
  5. +4
    30 October 2018 18: 10
    Something about the Ukrainian captain silence, and could hold him until better times, knowing the vile nature of ukrov.
  6. 0
    30 October 2018 18: 10
    that after lengthy negotiations, the Nord crew was exchanged for Ukrainian sailors.

    And there was such a hype .. Vaughn at construction sites in Moscow a couple of thousand illegal immigrants from the outskirts would have immediately scored and ALL the problem has been solved! Better yet, prostitutes with Ukaz passports ..
    Russia has gone wild with this dish, there will still be typical provocations, I’m sure .. Until then we will not respond rigidly, like Israel.
    1. +1
      30 October 2018 18: 38
      Quote: Propaganda Department
      And there was such a hype .. Vaughn at construction sites in Moscow a couple of thousand illegal immigrants from the outskirts would have immediately scored and ALL the problem has been solved! AND

      But they can’t be kept in the drive for a long time, you have to send them home at your own expense - the law says so.
      1. 0
        30 October 2018 18: 55
        Quote: Gray Brother
        Quote: Propaganda Department
        And there was such a hype .. Vaughn at construction sites in Moscow a couple of thousand illegal immigrants from the outskirts would have immediately scored and ALL the problem has been solved! AND

        But they can’t be kept in the drive for a long time, you have to send them home at your own expense - the law says so.

        It will turn out a little expensive, but if instead of gum aid on "KAMAZ" trucks they are unloaded on the borderline in Donbass and the OSCE is present and the authorities of Donbass! And let them (the junta in Kiev) deal with them (everyone's passports are expired, everything is legal) After all, they need to be moved further ..))))) You look and the bombing of Donbass will stop, fearing to catch their evil .. Here there will be mats in side of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and especially the National Battalions soldier
  7. -2
    30 October 2018 18: 15
    The crew of the Sea Breeze didn’t return completely. Eight people left to keep watch. A starp from Odessa. Nord and Sea Breeze are standing at the Ukrainian berths.
  8. +1
    30 October 2018 18: 33
    Fine fools to know where you can fish
  9. 0
    30 October 2018 18: 39
    What should be done to exchange for the entire GTS of Ukraine.
    1. +1
      30 October 2018 19: 25
      Quote: Conductor
      What should be done to exchange for the entire GTS of Ukraine.

      Let them make hyperloops out of it.
  10. +3
    30 October 2018 18: 47
    Finally? Or continue checking ships further? The captain will be released, as clear as day. The ship will be returned. What else would they "squeeze" to get it - do not touch Russia. Even look askance in her direction ... Well, they will come and ask ... In short, read Bismarck laughing
  11. +2
    30 October 2018 18: 49
    Quote: Rusland
    Something about the Ukrainian captain silence, and could hold him until better times, knowing the vile nature of ukrov

    Left him, sits with us, released the workers
  12. +2
    30 October 2018 18: 51
    And if Nord buy, for example, the Yankees, hang out their mattress, put a team there + of their lured journalists + activists and with fanfare, surrounded by cameras, they will trample through the strait? maybe it’s time to already declare the threat of mines from the time of the Second World War and really what to force the thread to let bubbles, if trample?
    1. +1
      30 October 2018 19: 15
      It is possible, privately, to drop a thread from a bridge directly onto the wheelhouse.
    2. +1
      30 October 2018 19: 19
      Quote: Yuri T.
      And if Nord buy, for example, the Yankees, hang out their mattress, put a team there + of their lured journalists + activists and with fanfare, surrounded by cameras, they will trample through the strait? maybe it’s time to already declare the threat of mines from the time of the Second World War and really what to force the thread to let bubbles, if trample?


      So this is exactly what they are already pumping seriously, look:
      "" You ask what Ukraine can do? There are many yachts of Ukrainian oligarchs in Odessa. Why don't they organize a Maidan at sea? Organizing a peaceful protest on their boats is a kind of Ukrainian version of "Dunkirk" (a naval operation during the Second World War to evacuate English, French and Belgian units blocked by the city of Dunkirk by German troops - Ed.) - you have seen this film (2017, nominated for 8 Academy Awards - Auth.)? Ukraine can demonstrate that the Sea of ​​Azov is a part of Ukraine by sending yachts full of TV cameras and media to approach the Kerch Strait, demanding a ride to Mariupol. It would be a non-violent protest and a peaceful message to the world that would get the attention of the world's media. I am sure that Russia would have retreated and would not have closed the access to the Kerch Strait to the peaceful Ukrainian flotilla Dunkirk, "Glen Howard summed up."
      https://www.facenews.ua/articles/2018/322843/
    3. +2
      30 October 2018 19: 24
      Quote: Yuri T.

      And if Nord buy, for example, the Yankees, hang out their mattress, put a team there + of their lured journalists + activists and with fanfare, surrounded by cameras, they will trample through the strait?

      Then article 175 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation will enter into force.

      1. The purchase or sale of property that was knowingly obtained by criminal means not promised in advance shall be punishable by a fine in the amount of up to forty thousand rubles or in the amount of the convict's wages or other income for a period of up to three months, or by compulsory labor for a term of up to four hundred eighty hours, or correctional labor for up to two years, or forced labor for up to two years, or imprisonment for the same term.
      2. The same acts committed: a) by a group of persons by prior conspiracy; b) in relation to oil and its refined products, automobiles or other property on a large scale, - shall be punished by restriction of liberty for a term of up to three years, or forced labor for a term of up to five years, or by arrest for a term of up to six months, or imprisonment for up to five years with a fine of up to eighty thousand rubles or in the amount of the wage or other income of the convicted person for a period of up to six months.
      3. The acts provided for by the first or second parts of this article, committed by an organized group or a person using their official position, shall be punishable by forced labor for a term of up to five years with or without restraint of liberty for a term of up to two years, or imprisonment of up to seven years with a fine in the amount of up to eighty thousand rubles or in the amount of wages or other income of the convicted person for a period of up to six months and with restriction of freedom for a period of up to two years or without it

      Point 3 is quite appropriate. Americans can arrest our people around the world, but why are we worse))))
      1. 0
        30 October 2018 19: 42
        Well, these radishes are masters of provocation. for the most part, bloody ... They, contrary to their OWN laws and conscience, even wet their citizens for the sake of creating the right picture ... And given the global cover of their media, they can sculpt white from black, and everyone pretends that it is. ..
    4. +1
      30 October 2018 20: 07
      Quote: Yuri T.
      And if Nord buy, for example, the Yankees, hang out their mattress, put a team there + of their lured journalists + activists and with fanfare, surrounded by cameras, they will trample through the strait? maybe it’s time to already declare the threat of mines from the time of the Second World War and really what to force the thread to let bubbles, if trample?

      and what is the Yankees, some celestials !? Remember the case in the Persian Gulf when those Yankees were put on their knees and forced to cry? and if they become angry at the transfer of the vessel, then they should understand that our sailors do not differ in particular tolerance and with great pleasure would have broken a couple of egg faces!
      1. 0
        30 October 2018 20: 09
        I wish it were so ...
  13. 0
    30 October 2018 18: 51
    everything is simple. To protect the squares of the sea. To declare to all water vessels the squares they have the right to be in and where they cannot. , myself. And all things. And let people who do not have a brain pay for the fact that with age they did not make convolutions.
    1. 0
      30 October 2018 19: 18
      Well, firstly: the sea is not our sole property. Belongs to us and Ukrainians. And secondly - we still do not have a distinction between them with the sea. Yes, and by land de jure is not framed.
  14. 0
    30 October 2018 19: 14
    Something our special services do not catch mice. Well, so, purely for training, they would have arranged a raid deep into Hohland. The benefit is not the emirates, it is not necessary to learn a language. Yes, and would have pulled the captain. laughing
    1. 0
      30 October 2018 20: 19
      Yes!
      And even a spree amer or a group of such should be taken out of the territory of the Square, put into the cockpit without calls, letters and lawyers and unnecessary publicity. And answer all the questions: "Mirekans ??? No, you haven't seen ... But where did you get lost? ... In Ukraineapolis, you say? Well, ask around with the maggots! Maybe they got lost in the hemp field ... "
      And when they insist - to disassemble the donor organs)))
  15. 0
    30 October 2018 20: 06
    The one who sanctioned the seizure of "Nord" should be condemned and sentenced to death in absentia - let him paint his own mother-in-law's own mother-in-law in her cold apartment until the end of his life.
  16. -2
    30 October 2018 20: 21
    And then - to submit to the ECHR, and with the support of the state, who are we, what are we waiting for ?!
  17. -1
    30 October 2018 20: 26
    Laughter and ... disgrace ... Who is negotiating with terrorists and even exchanging citizens of the Russian Federation for persons who have committed a crime on the territory of the Russian Federation. It remains only to buy "Nord" from the auction ... And that's it ... then it will definitely be possible to celebrate the victory of the Russian Federation in this conflict situation ... Ugh! am
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    1. -1
      30 October 2018 22: 55
      Poplar drowned in Kiev
  19. -2
    30 October 2018 22: 51
    It’s very strange. Ours write that the version about the exchange is being circulated by ROSSMI. But in fact, the Nord’s crew was free to do what you want (most importantly with Ukrainian passports, which they flatly refused) and they got off with a fine. They write that the Russian Federation also released the crew of the arrested Ukrainian vessel.
    There is no video sharing. But there is a meeting in Armyansk.

    Exchange looks different. Although these partners are all somehow strange. I recall the exchange of Aleksandrov and Yerofeyev for Savchenko ... There, they were taken out by presidential planes (after pardons).
    Glad the crews returned home. The captains are still languishing (one in the hospital but under arrest, the other in the dungeons).
  20. 0
    31 October 2018 03: 57
    Quote: Alexkorzun
    shans2 (shans2) ... And now, as many as 10 people were recruited on this trough, for what purpose, did they squeeze money for the private owner?)) ....

    one should not so aggressively demonstrate his impatience and illiteracy. This is not a tug, this is a fisherman.
    So, "Nord" - CChS 225:
    Class and type of vessel seiner-trawler, Displacement 186,8 tons
    Length 26,49 m, Width 6,53 m, Height 3,06 m
    Draft 2, 36 m
    The autonomy of swimming 10 day
    Crew 11 people.

    I know what I'm talking about, before the army he worked for 8 months on the SChS. They caught hamsa, starting from the strait to Batumi, then put horsefish on a light bulb, and then sprat near Zmein.
    The crew was:
    Captain, captain, navigator
    Starmekh, mechanic, minder
    Boatswain + three sailors
    Cook.

    This is a piece of iron !!! - the attitude of "our" government to our people is depressing - less than half a year has passed !!! ... And if not these poachers were caught?
    1. 0
      31 October 2018 10: 28
      Quote: tolmachiev51
      And if you would not have caught these poachers?


      Therefore, they caught exactly the same ....
      1. 0
        31 October 2018 14: 01
        Quote: iaroslav.mudryi
        Quote: tolmachiev51
        And if you would not have caught these poachers?

        Therefore, they caught exactly the same ....

        And when the Russian captain is caught exchanging poachers ?! am
        1. +1
          31 October 2018 15: 32
          Quote: Nikolai Fedorov
          And when the Russian captain is caught exchanging poachers ?! am

          So they (how many poachers are needed) were then detained:
          In the Black Sea detained Ukrainian fishing vessel YaMK-0041, which led the illegal fishing of flounder. This was reported in the press service of the FSB border administration in Crimea.
          They noted that ship was detained 4 on May not far from the Crimean cape Tarhankut. The Russian border ship Amethyst took part in the detention.


          And their captain is still sitting in a pre-trial detention center in Simferopol:
          The captain of the Ukrainian ship YaMK-0041 detained in Crimea Viktor Novitsky stays on the peninsula. This was reported by Russian media with reference to the press service of the Commissioner for Human Rights in Russia Tatyana Moskalkova.

          «A criminal case has been opened against the captain, citizen of Ukraine Viktor Novitsky, on the fact of illegal extraction of marine bioresources in the exclusive economic zone of Russia. The captain of the Russian vessel Nord, Vladimir Gorbenko, remains in Ukraine, ”the press service said.
          .


          sources:
          https://www.gazeta.ru/politics/2018/05/04_a_11739877.shtml
          https://ru.krymr.com/a/news-kapitan-ukrainskogo-sudna-yamk-0041-ostaetsa-v-krymu/29573679.html
          1. 0
            31 October 2018 16: 24
            In addition about the Ukrainian captain (his photo and photo of the result of his poaching):



            The ecological damage caused to the Black Sea by fishermen of the Ukrainian fishing vessel YaMK-0041, detained at the Crimean Cape Tarkhankut in early May, was estimated at more than 440 thousand rubles (a little more than 185 thousand hryvnias).
            Behind these figures - the death of 46 dolphins, 17 flounders and two sharks, entangled in the nets, the FSB noted.

            The captain shines 5 years .....
            1. 0
              31 October 2018 16: 25
              from here: http://timer-odessa.net/news/kapitan_zaderjannogo_v_krimu_ukrainskogo_sudna_mojet_sest_na_5_let_za_brakonerstvo_100.html
  21. 0
    31 October 2018 04: 02
    The indicator of the attitude of our authorities towards our people is only six months in the SBU. And if they hadn’t caught these poachers !!! ??? to sit children of about 15. Then we demand respect for ourselves.
  22. 0
    31 October 2018 10: 35
    Thanks to our frontier guards for level 80 trolling
  23. -2
    31 October 2018 12: 47
    "The Motherland hears, the Motherland knows ..." But during the time it takes for the Motherland to do something real, one can lose health.
    1. 0
      2 November 2018 15: 38
      Quote: iouris
      "The Motherland hears, the Motherland knows ..." But during the time it takes for the Motherland to do something real, one can lose health.

      Do not abuse your homeland with a bad word. You have one, if, of course, you have it. People for their homeland are not that they lose their health, but sometimes they lose their lives.
      And in general - you confused the homeland with the poor work of officials. Medvedev and the cannibalistic aliens subordinate to him are not the motherland, this is the misfortune of the motherland.
  24. 0
    31 October 2018 13: 59
    Quote: ver_
    ... like anastopi .., or anasto .. this * carnival * ...- all through the ass, or apron, maybe also sideways with cancer .. in this * Shymeriya * ..

    As I understand it, the impulse of your Russian soul! I myself do not want to say something, discuss it when you read such messages. I just want to swear. But you have to endure. Tolerate ... But how long?