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The fourth power unit of Zaporizhzhya NPP shut down for the second time in six days

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On the fourth power unit of the Zaporozhye NPP, the second time in six days, the protective mechanism worked, and the power unit was turned off. This was reported in the State Nuclear Regulatory Inspectorate (NIYAR) of Ukraine.


The fourth power unit of Zaporizhzhya NPP shut down for the second time in six days


As reported in the inspection itself, during the scheduled comprehensive tests of the second channel of the security system, the diesel generator was switched off as a result of the over-speed protection operation. Disconnection occurred in 08: 26. After eliminating the causes and ending the tests, the second channel of the security system was restarted. Before October 18, the fourth power unit was also shut down due to the emergency protection of the reactor and after two days of repair was put into operation. In April, a failure occurred in the sixth power unit of the nuclear power plant.

The NIYAR stated that there was no violation of the limits and conditions for the safe operation of power unit No. 4 of Zaporizhzhya NPP. The radiation situation at the Zaporizhzhya NPP site and beyond remains unchanged. An incident investigation commission has been established. The term of operation of the fourth power unit of the Zaporizhzhya NPP has been extended by the commission to 4 on April 2028 of the year.

Earlier, the State Nuclear Regulatory Inspectorate of Ukraine stated a significant increase in the number of disruptions in the operation of nuclear power plants. For 2017, the 17 violations in the operation of Ukraine’s nuclear power plants were recorded, which was the highest figure in seven years.
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  2. ANCIENT
    ANCIENT 24 October 2018 17: 48
    +3
    raw coal is thrown into the reactor, wassat coal non-digestion at the reactor wassat hence the breakdown lol
    1. Jolly oldster sailor
      Jolly oldster sailor 24 October 2018 18: 07
      +4
      Funny, damn it, Sergius? But is it okay that we all will suffer from this reactor? fool We still have trouble with oncology, after tests in Totsk ... Half a century has passed, damn it ... Hihanki to you all ... am
      1. LSA57
        LSA57 24 October 2018 18: 28
        +11
        Quote: Jolly oldster sailor
        ? But nothing that we all will suffer from this reactor?

        but what depends on us?
        there are now striped taxis
        1. For example
          For example 24 October 2018 19: 03
          +7
          Right One strip is yellow, the second is blue.

          Two extremes, either Putin is to blame for everything or the Americans.
          And in your head only?
          1. LSA57
            LSA57 24 October 2018 19: 11
            +1
            Quote: For example
            And in your head only?

            your suggestions?
            1. forester
              forester 24 October 2018 21: 59
              +7
              I wildly apologize for interfering in your dialogue - the option is the physical elimination of the junta, led by a pig - I do not think that there are no specialists of this profile in our special services
              1. ver_
                ver_ 25 October 2018 03: 31
                +5
                ... this is the most worthless option - it will become holy at once - holier than Christ the Copper God and the Pope with all his homosexuals, from whom * the Holy See * cannot be disposed of as a homeless mongrel from fleas ..
                1. Filxnumx
                  Filxnumx 25 October 2018 07: 15
                  0
                  I'm sorry, plyusanut, on the contrary I wanted. Here, now I have corrected myself. That's right, you can't afford to be a martyr of "Putin's bloody regime." And Europe, as always, is silent, they hope to sit out for the Young Europeans: Poland, Bulgaria, Romania
                  1. Hiss
                    Hiss 26 October 2018 05: 10
                    0
                    and why immediately a "martyr"? that it is hard to pour a bucket of vodka into a patsyuk, but to give a lift to "socially irresponsible" Sumerians in the sauna.?
          2. Vanek
            Vanek 25 October 2018 07: 30
            0
            Quote: For example
            And in your head only?


            You can still eat in it. For instance.

            hi
        2. spektr9
          spektr9 24 October 2018 19: 43
          +1
          but what depends on us?
          there are now striped taxis

          Those. suggest, wait and do not rock the boat until the lid of the reactor is torn off and everything is blown towards the Russian Federation?
          1. LSA57
            LSA57 24 October 2018 19: 54
            0
            Quote: spektr9
            Those. suggest, wait and do not rock the boat until the lid of the reactor is torn off and everything is blown towards the Russian Federation?

            got it. Do you propose to land troops at the nuclear power plant and take control into your own hands?
            Let me remind you that Zaporizhzhya NPP is located in / in the state of Ukraine. and now you remind us how we can "rock the boat" there and do something? let me remind you it is another sovereign state
            1. spektr9
              spektr9 24 October 2018 19: 58
              0
              got it. Do you propose to land troops at the nuclear power plant and take control into your own hands?
              Let me remind you that Zaporizhzhya NPP is located in / in the state of Ukraine. and now you remind us how we can "rock the boat" there and do something? let me remind you, this is another, sovereign state

              Let me remind you that the citizens of the Russian Federation will suffer, and your overwhelmed horror of "sovereign Ukraine", only your problems ...
              And yes, when they suffer, it will be guilty of the patronage of the Russian Federation which did nothing to prevent the tragedy, so it’s better not to shake your capital, being afraid to touch Ukraine with your finger, and start worrying about the people ...
              1. LSA57
                LSA57 24 October 2018 20: 05
                +2
                Quote: spektr9
                Let me remind you that the citizens of the Russian Federation will suffer, and your overwhelmed horror of "sovereign Ukraine", only your problems ...

                really?
                Are you ready to violate sovereignty?
                And yes, when they suffer, the patronage of the Russian Federation that didn’t do anything to prevent the tragedy will be to blame,

                how familiar is it .... everywhere Russia is to blame ... the reactors do not work in urkain, poisoned creaked in small Britain, they chose the president outside the puddle, hackers do not let anyone live in the entire geyrop ... and that's all Russia.
                If you did not BLABABOL tell SPECIFICALLY what should the Russian Federation do to prevent the Zaporizhzhya NPP from exploding ???? what???? SPECIFICALLY!!!!
                1. spektr9
                  spektr9 24 October 2018 20: 12
                  +2
                  If you did not BLABABOL tell SPECIFICALLY what should the Russian Federation do to prevent the Zaporizhzhya NPP from exploding ???? what???? SPECIFICALLY!!!!
                  All is well with you, you have already answered this question
                  you propose to land troops at the nuclear power plant and take control


                  how familiar is it .... everywhere Russia is to blame ... the reactors do not work in urkain, poisoned creaked in small Britain, they chose the president outside the puddle, hackers do not let anyone live in the entire geyrop ... and that's all Russia.
                  And who allows other countries to behave like this with the Russian Federation, during the time of Khrushchev in Turkey, NATO decided to deliver the missiles, he did not give .... During Putin's time in the Baltic states, NATO decided to deliver the missiles, he gave ....
                  So forgive me if someone sits and is only indignant that they are kicking him, he is guilty that he cannot answer properly, he had time and resources

                  really?
                  Are you ready to violate sovereignty?

                  In secret, for me, as for most citizens of the Russian Federation, the sovereignty of Ukraine ended in 2014
                  1. LSA57
                    LSA57 24 October 2018 20: 21
                    -1
                    Quote: spektr9
                    And who allows other countries to behave this way with the Russian Federation,

                    no need to portray in a frying pan.
                    what should Russia do so that a nuclear power plant does not explode ?????
                    In secret, for me, as for most citizens of the Russian Federation, the sovereignty of Ukraine ended in 2014

                    does this majority know about this? belay
                    all clear. share this secret at the UN
                    1. spektr9
                      spektr9 24 October 2018 20: 41
                      +1
                      no need to portray in a frying pan.
                      what should Russia do so that a nuclear power plant does not explode ?????
                      already answered you above, but I repeat
                      drop troops at a nuclear power plant and take control


                      does this majority know about this?
                      There is no majority, how are you sure that Ukraine is a sovereign state laughing (for particularly smart, I decrypt Sovereignty - independence of the state in foreign affairs and the supremacy of state power in internal affairs)
                      all clear. share this secret at the UN
                      I am not a supporter of your favorite concern, and I consider it necessary not to speak at the UN, but to solve a pressing problem (if you have not seen how again, return to the beginning of the message winked )
                      1. LSA57
                        LSA57 24 October 2018 20: 56
                        -1
                        Quote: spektr9
                        already answered you above, but I repeat

                        so this is not your suggestion.
                        There is no majority, how are you sure that Ukraine is a sovereign state

                        you won’t understand, five minutes ago you said the opposite
                        for most citizens of the Russian Federation

                        (for the most intelligent, I decipher Sovereignty - the independence of the state in foreign affairs and the supremacy of state power in internal affairs)

                        and what doesn't suit you? Well, they do not go like normal ones. but a state with all attributes exists
                        I'm not a supporter of your favorite concern,

                        and how do you know what i love and what not?
                        and I consider it necessary not to speak at the UN, but to solve a pressing problem

                        understandably. "HAWK". I don't like those. No.
                        I wanted to fight, they shoot at the Donbass.
                        don't bother answering. I don’t know how to talk with those who have only “checkers bald” on their minds and I don’t want to.
                        you had to be born out of a big puddle. views on life one to one.
                        therefore, they are hated that, apart from violence, they do not see other ways of resolving the issue.
                        I had to end the conversation immediately after you accused Russia of accidents at nuclear power plants
                      2. spektr9
                        spektr9 24 October 2018 21: 01
                        0
                        understandably. "HAWK". I don't like those.

                        And I don’t like those who are ready for the managing class of the heel to lick justifying any failure of them, so we have a mutual dislike smile
                        I do not know how to talk with those who have only "checkers bald" on their minds and do not want to
                        Yes, I know, I know, but I have to lol
                        you had to be born out of a big puddle. views on life one to one.
                        therefore, they are hated that, apart from violence, they do not see other ways of resolving the issue.

                        No, it was necessary in China, there just those who put their wallet above the well-being of their people to the wall ... And do not be afraid of trade and other wars.
            2. Polite Moose
              Polite Moose 24 October 2018 21: 55
              +7
              Quote: LSA57
              Do you propose to land troops at the nuclear power plant and take control into your own hands?
              Let me remind you that Zaporizhzhya NPP is located in / in the state of Ukraine. and now you remind us how we can "rock the boat" there and do something? let me remind you, this is another, sovereign state

              Let me get 5 kopecks. insert.
              At the moment, while the entire Ukrainian elite is looking at the "back", we will not be physically given practically anything. The reactor accident will seriously discredit our Russian nuclear power industry, with a corresponding loss of Rosatom's positions in world markets. The simplest and most effective step on our part, in my opinion, will be fanning the hype and fanning the media around the nearly damaged reactors. Through all possible channels. So that Europe will notice. It is also a good idea to hold mass exercises in the areas bordering Ukraine to counter radioactive contamination. Get plenty of gas masks and degassing equipment. I believe that such movements will not go unnoticed.
              1. LSA57
                LSA57 24 October 2018 22: 01
                +1
                Quote: Polite Elk
                The simplest and most effective step on our part, in my opinion, will be to inflate the hype and escalate the horror in the media around almost emergency reactors. On all possible channels. So that Europe will notice. It is also good to conduct mass exercises in the border areas with Ukraine to counteract radioactive contamination. More gas masks and degassing equipment. I believe that such movements will not go unnoticed.

                and more noise at the IAEA. I do not know the rules, but at every meeting to focus on this.
                although it seems to me that even without us they all know this well.
                and still, you need as much noise as possible
                1. Polite Moose
                  Polite Moose 24 October 2018 22: 11
                  +1
                  Quote: LSA57
                  noise as much as possible

                  And some very clever, expert, bespectacled experts often broadcast with conversations that Russians have nothing to worry about, because the wind rose there is such that everything will go to the West.
                  1. LSA57
                    LSA57 24 October 2018 22: 19
                    +1
                    Quote: Polite Elk
                    And some very clever, expert, bespectacled experts often broadcast with conversations that Russians have nothing to worry about, because the wind rose there is such that everything will go to the West.

                    it is possible to organize the same in their territory. our diasporas are everywhere
                    it will turn out well in Germany. after Fukushima, they closed their nuclear power plants. and here you are, from where they did not expect laughing
                    I think the noise will be to heaven. And Merkel will support. you need to distract attention from yourself at least with something lol
                    1. Lara Croft
                      Lara Croft 24 October 2018 23: 49
                      +1
                      Quote: LSA57
                      they after Fukushima closed their nuclear power plants. and here you are, from where they did not expect laughing

                      The nuclear power plant in the "enraged" FRG was closed not because of Fokushima, but because of the great prospect of becoming targets of the first strike (including tactical nuclear weapons) in the war with the Russian Federation ...
                      1. LSA57
                        LSA57 25 October 2018 00: 11
                        0
                        Quote: Lara Croft
                        The nuclear power plant in the "angry" Germany was not closed because of Fokushima

                        I read that it was because of her. the "greens" insisted.
                      2. Lara Croft
                        Lara Croft 25 October 2018 00: 18
                        +1
                        Quote: LSA57
                        Quote: Lara Croft
                        The nuclear power plant in the "angry" Germany was not closed because of Fokushima

                        I read that it was because of her. the "greens" insisted.

                        Here is a 2003 article
                        The rejection of nuclear power was one of the points of the election program of German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder in 1998, when his Social Democratic Party won the elections in an alliance with the Green Party. In 2001, after lengthy negotiations, the German government was able to sign an agreement with energy companies.

                        https://daxudani.info/news/2003/11/14/nuclear/
                      3. LSA57
                        LSA57 25 October 2018 00: 49
                        0
                        Quote: Lara Croft
                        Here is a 2003 article

                        I will not argue with you. you read one thing, I'm different.
                        I do not insist on my point.
                    2. Dr.KonradMorgen
                      Dr.KonradMorgen 25 October 2018 00: 45
                      -1
                      in Germany. after Fukushima, they closed their nuclear power plants.

                      It's funny, but nuclear power plants still operate in Germany. wink laughing 7 power units in my opinion.
                      1. LSA57
                        LSA57 25 October 2018 00: 52
                        0
                        Quote: Dr.KonradMorgen
                        It's funny, but nuclear power plants still operate in Germany.

                        Currently, 31 countries operate nuclear power plants. Italy became a country that closed all existing nuclear power plants in general and completely abandoned nuclear energy. Belgium, Germany, Spain, Switzerland, Taiwan have a long-term policy on eliminating nuclear energy.

                        completely here
                        https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Отказ_от_ядерной_энергетики
                      2. Dr.KonradMorgen
                        Dr.KonradMorgen 25 October 2018 00: 59
                        -1
                        Carry out. But in Germany, nuclear power units are still operating. They plan to completely abandon nuclear generation no earlier than the end of 2022.
                      3. LSA57
                        LSA57 25 October 2018 01: 04
                        0
                        Quote: Dr.KonradMorgen
                        Carry out. But in Germany, nuclear power units are still operating. They plan to completely abandon nuclear generation no earlier than the end of 2022.

                        in the same article I read that they kind of feel sorry. coal and fuel oil in boiler rooms do not improve the environment. and the windmills are very noisy. population is not pretty
                      4. Dr.KonradMorgen
                        Dr.KonradMorgen 25 October 2018 01: 19
                        -2
                        As far as I know, the overwhelming majority of "Bundesburgers" are still willing to pay increased (and greatly increased) "green tariffs", but have "green energy". And coal for the needs of thermal power plants in Germany has not been used for a long time.
                      5. LSA57
                        LSA57 25 October 2018 01: 26
                        0
                        Quote: Dr.KonradMorgen
                        As far as I know, the overwhelming majority of "Bundesburgers" are still willing to pay increased (and greatly increased) "green tariffs"

                        There are relatives in Germany, but have not communicated with them for a long time, and therefore are not aware of this issue. I say what I read on different sites, including VO.
                        about coal. maybe I was wrong. probably it was about gas. and nevertheless, it doesn’t improve the environment either
                      6. Dr.KonradMorgen
                        Dr.KonradMorgen 25 October 2018 01: 28
                        -2
                        According to the plans of the federal government, already in 2020, a third of all electricity generated in Germany will come from "renewable sources".
                      7. LSA57
                        LSA57 25 October 2018 01: 31
                        0
                        Quote: Dr.KonradMorgen
                        will be obtained from "renewable sources

                        to my shame the first time I hear about such sources
                        is it possible in more detail?
                      8. Dr.KonradMorgen
                        Dr.KonradMorgen 25 October 2018 01: 38
                        -2
                        HPPs, PSPPs, tidal, wave, wind, solar, geothermal power plants + heat pumps (what kind of thing - see here: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teplova_pump) + energy derived from biofuel (biodiesel, bioethanol, biogas, etc.)
                      9. LSA57
                        LSA57 25 October 2018 01: 43
                        0
                        Quote: Dr.KonradMorgen
                        HPP, PSP, tidal, wave, wind, solar, geothermal power plants + heat pumps

                        Thanks, got it hi
                        Yes, I doubt that they will be able to implement all this in such a short time. Well, let's see.
                        then it’s not at all clear why they are increasing gas purchases. their production is practically not growing.
                      10. Dr.KonradMorgen
                        Dr.KonradMorgen 25 October 2018 01: 57
                        -2
                        You're welcome! wink
                        So they have been introducing this for several years. And not even the first decade. Germans drinks - what to take from them? - "ordnung" (in this case - long-term plan) above all! soldier
                        And they increase gas purchases because then they re-export a significant part of it - incl. and to Ukraine. However, the growth rate of the German market for Gazprom has been declining for the fourth year in a row.
                      11. LSA57
                        LSA57 25 October 2018 01: 59
                        0
                        Quote: Dr.KonradMorgen
                        However, the growth rate of the German market for Gazprom has been declining for the fourth year in a row.

                        Then why do they need SP-2?
                      12. Dr.KonradMorgen
                        Dr.KonradMorgen 25 October 2018 02: 06
                        -2
                        Do you think Germany really do you like the dependence on gas imports from Ukraine ?? In addition, it is very profitable for Germany to lock an even greater part of Russian atmospheric natural gas imports to Europe. Since it will allow it to become a "gas hub" through which gas will go to Austria, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary, and possibly Romania and Moldova. And this is quite a good gesheft. wink
                      13. LSA57
                        LSA57 25 October 2018 02: 12
                        0
                        Quote: Dr.KonradMorgen
                        In addition, the closure of an even larger part of Russia's imports of atmospheric natural gas to Europe -

                        I remembered here. recently came across a curious article. it told why Germany increases gas purchases. It turns out the whole thing is that the Gulf Stream began to cool. and it’s quite possible that Europe will start to freeze. not just freezing, but the climate will be different. cold. as we have in the middle lane. noticed that our winters have become warmer? smile
                        I don’t remember in detail, but I seem to have caught the main idea
                      14. Dr.KonradMorgen
                        Dr.KonradMorgen 25 October 2018 02: 18
                        -2
                        Not everything is so apocalyptic. wink smile
                        Here is a good article outlining and analyzing different points of view on the evolution of the Gulf Stream in the foreseeable future:
                        http://luckytoys.ru/journal/view/ostyvanie_golfstrima___mify_i_realnost_544.html
                      15. LSA57
                        LSA57 25 October 2018 02: 26
                        +1
                        Quote: Dr.KonradMorgen
                        http://luckytoys.ru/journal/view/ostyvanie_golfstrima___mify_i_realnost_544.html

                        Thank you hi Now it’s too late to read, it’s time to sleep, I’ll read it in the morning smile
                        Not everything is so apocalyptic.

                        you know, but mnu like it's all on the drum. there are practically no relatives, years are not so many, but not few. so that will be in 15-20 years I don’t really care smile
                        I do not want of course the Apocalypse on earth. but if it does, then God forbid I do not see it.
                        here I am such an egoist smile
                      16. Dr.KonradMorgen
                        Dr.KonradMorgen 25 October 2018 02: 29
                        -2
                        Well - I'm apparently younger than you. Therefore, the situation on Earth in the next 50 years is vitally interesting for me. smile
                      17. LSA57
                        LSA57 25 October 2018 02: 33
                        0
                        Quote: Dr.KonradMorgen
                        Therefore, the situation on Earth in the next 50 years is vitally interesting for me.


                        + well, I’m definitely not going to live as long laughing 10-15 years maximum. and the old sores wake up.
                        I am sleeping. Thanks for the conversation, it was nice and interesting to chat. Good luck hi
                      18. Dr.KonradMorgen
                        Dr.KonradMorgen 25 October 2018 02: 35
                        -1
                        Mutually, Sergey! Goodnight! hi
      2. Blacksmith 55
        Blacksmith 55 24 October 2018 18: 32
        +2
        Yes, I agree, he lived in the neighboring Totsky district, since there were so many acquaintances in the cancer hospitals, although I had a chance to be born later.
      3. Baloo
        Baloo 24 October 2018 19: 02
        +1
        Quote: Jolly oldster sailor
        Funny, damn it, Sergius? But is it okay that we all will suffer from this reactor? fool We still have trouble with oncology, after tests in Totsk ... Half a century has passed, damn it ... Hihanki to you all ... am


        You're right. The explosion was 80 km from Totsk and 25 km from Serov. I watched a program in Totsk on the local channel, they said that so far there are three times as many pediatric oncology and congenital pathology, oncology of the thyroid gland and internal organs predominates in adults. It is understandable, water, earth for a long time ...
        There is only a fraction of the joke in Sergey’s joke, and indeed these banderbabuins will be played out. After Chernobyl for many years, the Scandinavians recorded the Chernobyl isotopes.
        1. Blacksmith 55
          Blacksmith 55 24 October 2018 19: 22
          0
          The explosion was 80 km away. from Totsk ???

          Dear, I do not presume to say exactly how many kilometers. there, but certainly not 80. I dare to suggest km 20-40.
          1. Baloo
            Baloo 24 October 2018 19: 26
            +1
            Quote: smith 55
            The explosion was 80 km away. from Totsk ???

            Dear, I do not presume to say exactly how many kilometers. there, but certainly not 80. I dare to suggest km 20-40.

            No, this area is called the Totsky training ground by the name of the railway station, and the explosion was closer to Serov, the wind blew in that direction, the consequences affect ..
            1. Blacksmith 55
              Blacksmith 55 24 October 2018 19: 42
              0
              I am not familiar with the Totsky training ground; I have been there many times.
              1. Baloo
                Baloo 24 October 2018 19: 47
                0
                Quote: smith 55
                I am not familiar with the Totsky training ground; I have been there many times.

                Me too, about twenty years ago, at the training camp, they deployed a mesanbat in the winter. Then the son-in-law got a distribution, I had to go on a visit for several years. I saw the transmission on the local channel.
      4. Mih1974
        Mih1974 24 October 2018 19: 20
        +6
        Relax, all these are fairy tales from the category "workers of nuclear power plants pick mushrooms in its vicinity at night, why at night? - because they glow in the dark")). And in Russia there are blackouts, but no one is hysterical. Most likely, one day the block simply will not start from the word Completely - this is where it all ends. There will be no "drums". Believe me, no one will let the horses go to the nuclear power plant, the guards will just shoot them at the checkpoint for jumps and pots)). Definitely, gunpowder received an "infusion" when taking office from the Europeans - and do not turn your eyes towards the nuclear power plant, no matter what vile one is there, we don't need a second Chernobyl !! He received about such an "infusion")), so no "Svidomo" or "lustrators" were ever seen in the area of ​​the nuclear power plant.
        1. LSA57
          LSA57 24 October 2018 19: 41
          +1
          Quote: Mih1974
          Believe me, nobody will let the horses run at the nuclear power plant, the guards will simply shoot them at the checkpoint for jumping and pan)).

          not advertised. during Maidan, the sector banned in the Russian Federation tried to get there. sort of arrange lustration and other dirty tricks. half shot, half scattered and fell silent like a mouse under a broom
          1. Dr.KonradMorgen
            Dr.KonradMorgen 25 October 2018 00: 56
            -1
            In fact, this episode received a very wide response in Ukraine and Russia in May 2014.
            Here is how it was:
            A group of armed people tried to break into Energodar, where the Zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant is located. They failed to get into the city. The protection of the nuclear power plant was able to block a group of about four dozen people with weapons.
            People arriving in several cars were stopped at a checkpoint. During the trial, they reported that they allegedly arrived to protect the nuclear power plant, since they received information about upcoming provocations. Soon militiamen and guards of the nuclear power station arrived at the scene. They disarmed people armed with automatic weapons. Who these people were at the time of publication of this event was unknown. After the detention, the groups in Energodar intensified patrolling the streets and guarding important facilities, since it was not known how many more such groups could try to break into the city, now in a roundabout way.
            In general, the protection of strategic objects in Ukraine has been strengthened for a long time. This issue was dealt with even under the previous government, when a wave of mass protests swept across the country. After the "Euromaidan" no one began to remove the reinforced security.
          2. asv363
            asv363 25 October 2018 01: 10
            +2
            Namesake, if this is about "unexpected guests" on a minibus, then their physical protection kicked a little, weapons (AK) were taken away and sent home.
            ZAES personnel (key) are quite smart and experienced men, there will be no accident.
            1. Mih1974
              Mih1974 25 October 2018 08: 03
              +1
              This is what I wrote about (without scaring the incident because - the less civilians know, the more they sleep lol ) And note - no more attempts, not a squeal in the media, nor merikasas even pop into it (I'm not talking about trying to push the vestinhuis).
              I do not know anything about it "as it really is", but I can only assume that there are tacit agreements "an attack or terrorist attack on a nuclear power plant is considered a declaration of war and a strike with the use of nuclear weapons", that is, NOBODY wanting to start a nuclear war with us or from the United States will not go to nuclear power plants. This is not a journalist to be cut into pieces at the embassy !! am Therefore, I can "only assume" that in Russia there are "orders in case of X" and specifically in case of seizure of a nuclear power plant in Ukriya by some porno cultists - I suspect that a large group of our specialists will fly there, which will literally chop them to pieces, I also suspect that after this will be forcibly taken under the "protection" of ALL nuclear power plants in Ukraine under the encouraging nods of the EU and the US. am
    2. Machito
      Machito 24 October 2018 18: 50
      +2
      Too often they fail. Where the IAEA just looks. No matter how it exploded. When talking about Ukraine: a monkey with a grenade is not a joke, but a harsh reality.
      1. LSA57
        LSA57 24 October 2018 19: 12
        +1
        Quote: Bearded
        Where the IAEA just looks.

        yes no they have the right to stop nuclear power plants request
      2. Dr.KonradMorgen
        Dr.KonradMorgen 25 October 2018 02: 09
        -2
        Where the IAEA just looks.

        IAEA - "watch and watch". As it should be. And it finds the nuclear and physical security of nuclear facilities in Ukraine quite at the level of its requirements.
    3. NEXUS
      NEXUS 24 October 2018 19: 45
      0
      Quote: ANCIENT
      raw coal is thrown into the reactor, wassat coal non-digestion at the reactor wassat hence the breakdown lol

      Ukraine has 4 nuclear power plants, each with 4 reactors ... 16 time bombs. That is, in fact, Ukraine is a nuclear power. It will explode, it will not seem to anyone a little.
      So that you understand the size and depth of that ass, in the case of Chernobyl-2, there is only one Chernobyl, only lead was extinct in the amount of ANNUAL PRODUCTION of the USSR. They drove him even from Kazakhstan.
      And now, if there is a desire to laugh ... then laugh. I'm not talking about the fate of the liquidators, infected and ending with environmental harm in general.
      1. Setrac
        Setrac 24 October 2018 20: 53
        +1
        Quote: NEXUS
        Ukraine has 4 nuclear power plants, each of which has 4 reactors ... 16 atomic time bombs.

        Fortunately, you cannot drop a nuclear power plant from a bomber to an enemy.
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 24 October 2018 20: 54
          0
          Quote: Setrac
          Fortunately, you cannot drop a nuclear power plant from a bomber to an enemy.

          Yeah, you tell the wind and the current in the seas and rivers ...
          1. Setrac
            Setrac 24 October 2018 20: 57
            +2
            Quote: NEXUS
            Yeah, you tell the wind and the current in the seas and rivers ...

            A good plan - to dirtiest all the oceans so that it was impossible to swim on them - and the end of the enemy "sea" civilization.
      2. Rzzz
        Rzzz 24 October 2018 23: 46
        0
        Ukraine has 4 nuclear power plants, each of which has 4 reactors ... 16 atomic bombs


        15. At one station 6, at another 4, at the third 3 and at the fourth 2. True, they want to build 2 more, but, hopefully, it will not work.
        1. Dr.KonradMorgen
          Dr.KonradMorgen 25 October 2018 01: 01
          -2
          Already not want to. Completion canceled.
      3. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft 24 October 2018 23: 55
        0
        Quote: NEXUS
        Ukraine has 4 nuclear power plants, each with 4 reactors ... 16 time bombs. That is, in fact, Ukraine is a nuclear power. It will explode, it will not seem to anyone a little.

        Zaporizhzhya NPP, one of the largest in the world
        2nd place in the world. Zaporizhzhya NPP is the largest station in Ukraine, Europe and the post-Soviet space. Six plant reactors give a peak power of 6 MW and make it the main electricity supplier in Ukraine.

        http://miraes.ru/samaya-moshhnaya-aes-reyting-top-10-samyih-krupnyih-atomnyih-stantsiy-mira/
        1. Dr.KonradMorgen
          Dr.KonradMorgen 25 October 2018 01: 23
          -2
          Six plant reactors give a peak power of 6 MW and make it the main electricity supplier in Ukraine.

          5952 MW. And not the "main supplier". The largest power plant in Ukraine - yes.
          1. Lara Croft
            Lara Croft 25 October 2018 07: 37
            0
            Quote: Dr.KonradMorgen
            Six plant reactors give a peak power of 6 MW and make it the main electricity supplier in Ukraine.

            5952 MW. And not the "main supplier". The largest power plant in Ukraine - yes.

            Find a big one on the European continent, no? Well, I thought so ...
            1. Dr.KonradMorgen
              Dr.KonradMorgen 25 October 2018 17: 35
              -2
              The "European continent" does not exist in nature. bully There is a part of the world - Europe. And the continent - Eurasia. But yes, Zaporizhzhya NPP is the largest in Europe too. From which, however, completely not it follows that she is the main supplier of electricity for Ukraine. You are confusing the concepts of "major" and "largest".
              1. Lara Croft
                Lara Croft 25 October 2018 21: 28
                0
                Quote: Dr.KonradMorgen
                The "European continent" does not exist in nature. bully There is a part of the world - Europe. And the continent - Eurasia. But yes, Zaporizhzhya NPP is the largest in Europe too. From which, however, completely not it follows that she is the main supplier of electricity for Ukraine. You are confusing the concepts of "major" and "largest".

                Those. I can’t wait for links to refute my comment, as I understand it?
                1. Dr.KonradMorgen
                  Dr.KonradMorgen 25 October 2018 21: 35
                  -1
                  Explain for starters - What should I refute in your opinion ??
                  1. Lara Croft
                    Lara Croft 25 October 2018 21: 40
                    0
                    Quote: Dr.KonradMorgen
                    Explain for starters - What should I refute in your opinion ??

                    It:
                    2nd place in the world. Zaporizhzhya NPP is the largest station in Ukraine, Europe and the post-Soviet space.
                    1. Dr.KonradMorgen
                      Dr.KonradMorgen 25 October 2018 21: 48
                      -1
                      And I am not I deny. And didn’t even try. wink smile
      4. asv363
        asv363 25 October 2018 01: 20
        +1
        Quote: NEXUS
        Ukraine has 4 nuclear power plants, each of which has 4 reactors ... 16 atomic time bombs.

        Andrew, see:
        ZAES - 6 blocks
        RAES - 4 blocks
        South NPP - 3 blocks
        Khmelnitsky NPP - 2 blocks.
        ___________________
        TOTAL: 15 blocks
    4. Normal ok
      Normal ok 24 October 2018 23: 56
      0
      I understand that it’s fun to laugh at what you don’t understand. BUT, Ukrainian NPPs have been operating in maneuvering mode for several years now. And shutting down the power unit (here the apocalypse was promised a hundred times) does not mean anything at all.
      1. Dr.KonradMorgen
        Dr.KonradMorgen 25 October 2018 01: 48
        -2
        You are too optimistic.
        Here is the info from April 2016:
        Operation of VVER-1000 power units at Ukrainian nuclear power plants in the regime of daily power control is technically possible, however will require at least two more years of thorough preparation. Such an opinion during the round table on the topic "Nuclear Energy of Ukraine. Maneuvering - blind risk or safe economic feasibility? ” Yuri Sheiko, Director for Production of Energoatom, said.

        But really - an emergency shutdown of a power unit by a threat to nuclear safety NOT is an.
      2. asv363
        asv363 25 October 2018 02: 45
        0
        Quote: Normal ok
        I understand that it’s fun to laugh at what you don’t understand. BUT, Ukrainian NPPs have been operating in maneuvering mode for several years now. And shutting down the power unit (here the apocalypse was promised a hundred times) does not mean anything at all.

        At the 4th power unit, work was carried out for the PSE. Disconnections began immediately after completion of work and synchronization with the network. Maybe there was not enough time, I do not know for sure. It is worth noting the other side - the staff works according to the rules and is not afraid to stop the unit when problems are detected. I would not speak about maneuvering right after repair - the schedule there is different.
        1. Evil
          Evil 25 October 2018 11: 06
          0
          The mind was not enough, the PSE is only on paper, the repair is carried out on the principle of rotation, parts from one engine are put on another. The scheme is outrageously simple: the removed parts are sent to the "supplier" to assess the residual resource, he supposedly destroys them, and then he sells the washed stations under the guise of new ones and installs them himself.
  3. Andrey Chistyakov
    Andrey Chistyakov 24 October 2018 17: 50
    +5
    It does not decommunize.
  4. ANCIENT
    ANCIENT 24 October 2018 17: 50
    +4
    tell me what, until 2028 ukroina still remains belay this is how much time we still have to endure this misunderstanding called ukroina belay
    1. Andrey Chistyakov
      Andrey Chistyakov 24 October 2018 17: 56
      +2
      The US knows the answer. Without Donbass, for sure.
  5. Shelest2000
    Shelest2000 24 October 2018 17: 52
    +1
    Interestingly, with what TVELs do they work there? Our or yusovskimi. If the second option - tady OH!
    1. ANCIENT
      ANCIENT 24 October 2018 17: 59
      0
      shelest2000-which they drove into the reactor: lol those work and they have disposable reactors lol they can then be safely thrown away ...
    2. LSA57
      LSA57 24 October 2018 18: 30
      0
      Quote: Shelest2000
      Our or yusovskimi

      while ours. but as far as I know, they kind of breathe frankly.
      and striped can’t fit. since the station has already been blown up
    3. NEXUS
      NEXUS 24 October 2018 19: 39
      0
      Quote: Shelest2000
      Interestingly, with what TVELs do they work there? Our or yusovskimi. If the second option - tady OH!

      On our ...
      Russia and Ukraine will soon sign a contract for 2018 for the supply of uranium raw materials from Ukraine to Russia. This was announced by Gleb Efremov, Director General of the Russian JSC International Uranium Enrichment Center (IUEC).

      Ukraine enriches its uranium concentrate at the IUEC facilities of which it is a participant. The country annually supplies about 80 tons of uranium concentrate under the project. Enriched uranium is used for the manufacture of fuel assemblies (fuel elements) and the supply of nuclear fuel to the shareholder countries.

      "Now there will be a contract for 2018. Its signing and execution will take place in the near future. We have included the volume that is envisaged for delivery to Ukraine in the current production program. Now we are waiting for Ukraine to sign it, from our side a signed contract for the current year has already been sent to the Ukrainian side, "Efremov said.

      The physical delivery of uranium raw materials is expected in the III-IV quarters of 2018, Efremov added. According to him, Ukraine is observing the payment schedule, "the work is proceeding normally, the payment schedules of Ukraine for the supplied fuel correspond to the planned contractual obligations."

      But the mattress of Westinghouse, everyone is trying to find the key to our reactor in order to replace our rods with them. Only while it is not safe.
    4. Antares
      Antares 24 October 2018 21: 50
      +1
      Quote: Shelest2000
      Our or yusovskimi

      TVEL (RF) and Swedish Westinghouse are about half (but at the moment there are more Russian assemblies)
      It is a common practice to be equally divided and not depend on one supplier.
    5. Dr.KonradMorgen
      Dr.KonradMorgen 25 October 2018 01: 03
      -2
      "Both letters". And both. Only the "US" ones are actually Swedish.
  6. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 24 October 2018 17: 55
    +2
    And there are SM-2M and PS-1001 cars in the ACS. And the Georgians did the USO for them "by the cold soldering method" ... We sit on a volcano and it can explode ... laughing tongue wassat
  7. boriz
    boriz 24 October 2018 17: 56
    +3
    Actually, the jokes are bad. Now the Ukrainians, in order to save money, derusify and wave their masters back to the Westinghouse TVELs will again shove them into the Soviet reactor and - please - Fukushima -2. And Russia is nearby. Again, a Russian vanka will climb to ruin his life and health, saving the surrounding humanity?
    1. Mih1974
      Mih1974 24 October 2018 19: 25
      +2
      Calm down - there will be no "broads" the protection will fall and the FSE, the movie will end, the main thing is that they supply water until the reactor cools down)). Where they will then this "case" will be - no idea. These are huge grandmothers on its opening and burying, by the way, it's not clear where to bury it.
      1. asv363
        asv363 25 October 2018 03: 03
        +1
        Quote: Mih1974
        calm down - there will be no "broads" the protection will fall and the FSE, the movie will end, the main thing is that they supply water until the reactor cools down))

        After triggering the AZ, not just water will be supplied, but water with boric acid at a concentration of 40 grams per liter.
        1. Mih1974
          Mih1974 25 October 2018 07: 52
          +1
          sad Do you need to write down all the instrumentation in case of a fall of the AZ, with technical regulations, etc. What would the readers get swollen from trying to read and digest these "sheets"? "keep it simple - people will be drawn to you" lol good
          1. asv363
            asv363 25 October 2018 09: 10
            0
            Michael, I personally know the instructions. I mentioned Probor as a neutron absorber, that's all. Still, the second, independent system for transferring into a subcritical state.
            1. Mih1974
              Mih1974 25 October 2018 09: 13
              0
              And I have "visible in the window of the nuclear power plant" and a good friend, the head of this nuclear power plant, and if it’s so hot I can attach a screen of this instruction tongue good ... But who needs to know such "little things" except those allowed?
              1. asv363
                asv363 25 October 2018 10: 26
                0
                And a complete set of TOB, I read at your leisure. Send!
                1. Mih1974
                  Mih1974 25 October 2018 11: 41
                  0
                  Studio admission form tongue
              2. Evil
                Evil 25 October 2018 11: 08
                0
                And the instructions have already been taken out of the chipboard neck?))))))
                1. Mih1974
                  Mih1974 25 October 2018 11: 42
                  0
                  ((You have a sense of humor falling out ((, I'm not so stupid person to post "admission documents". fool
      2. boriz
        boriz 28 October 2018 11: 35
        0
        Your optimism is not impressive. Something in Fukushima, she did not fall.
        And as for Ukrainians, something will definitely happen. Or they will drink a diesel engine from a backup diesel engine (remember "Radio Day") or what spare parts. Murphy's laws have not been canceled, and already in 404 ...
  8. ANCIENT
    ANCIENT 24 October 2018 17: 56
    +4
    when you read such news from ukroina, you look on the map how many from the problematic nuclear power plant to our country, a bunch of swear words appear in the head about the ukroina authorities ..
    1. Alexander 3
      Alexander 3 24 October 2018 18: 04
      +4
      It is necessary for the RADA to sit in the hall above the reactor of this nuclear power plant. Maybe then the state of emergency will not happen. But judging by their statements, even if they offer it, they will not all understand what it means
  9. taiga2018
    taiga2018 24 October 2018 17: 58
    +7
    that day when it explodes there, I hope the wind will not be in the direction of Russia, I only care about that ...
  10. The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 24 October 2018 18: 01
    +1
    This is what they suffer with the "totalitarian legacy" ??? (((
    "Disconnect" the reactors - and there is no problem, neither for yourself, nor for others!
    1. Vlad5307
      Vlad5307 24 October 2018 20: 59
      0
      Yeah, how then to beg money from the EU to the failed CEE Europeans? Nuclear blackmail - a very profitable thing in the clutches of an ukroshumerskoy gang! tongue
    2. Dr.KonradMorgen
      Dr.KonradMorgen 25 October 2018 01: 25
      -2
      Yeah, right now! Dreaming !! tongue
  11. vit357
    vit357 24 October 2018 18: 08
    +3
    In 2017, 17 violations in the operation of Ukrainian NPPs were recorded, which became the largest indicator in the last seven years.

    In the framework of decommunization, Soviet nuclear power plants are conscious and help the outskirts fight the totalitarian past.
  12. wow
    wow 24 October 2018 18: 24
    +3
    Have set up banderlog "bloody sovki" all sorts of things, and now they are thinking how to calm them down ......!
  13. BeloMor
    BeloMor 24 October 2018 18: 35
    +1
    Monkey with a grenade. When to wait for the second Chernobyl ??? And the east breeze would not hurt to know.
  14. lexa333
    lexa333 24 October 2018 19: 15
    0
    We are not funny in Zaporozhye.
    1. Evil
      Evil 24 October 2018 20: 58
      +1
      You are the funniest of all, the situation is well known in your city, by the way it was created with the help of your inhabitants, who simply close their eyes for a small deny and want to leave for Europe.
  15. APASUS
    APASUS 24 October 2018 19: 39
    +1
    And who cares? As I understand it, the Ukrainian authorities almost dream of an accident, then the EU, not wanting to spread the infection, will be forced to introduce direct rule. That's what is required, Ukraine will enter the EU as a carcass, even if it’s a corpse.
  16. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 24 October 2018 19: 43
    +2
    Oh, the Sumerians will play out like monkeys with a grenade, not like the second Chernobyl, the plots of the "Stalker" books will enter life.
  17. faterdom
    faterdom 24 October 2018 19: 51
    0
    GIAR declared
    It seems to me that former civilizations have already encountered horses. From there, from the hoary antiquity, the word "giaur" was deposited into the Turkic, corrected for pronunciation, of course.
  18. AlexG83
    AlexG83 24 October 2018 20: 12
    +1
    And it may occur to them, to use these nuclear power plants as blackmail? This depends on how much power there is frostbitten.
  19. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 24 October 2018 20: 56
    0
    Quote: LSA57
    Quote: spektr9
    Those. suggest, wait and do not rock the boat until the lid of the reactor is torn off and everything is blown towards the Russian Federation?

    got it. Do you propose to land troops at the nuclear power plant and take control into your own hands?
    Let me remind you that Zaporizhzhya NPP is located in / in the state of Ukraine. and now you remind us how we can "rock the boat" there and do something? let me remind you it is another sovereign state

    Not sovereign, but vassal! They can declare their sovereignty only in relation to the Russian Federation on various programs on Russian TV. lol
  20. Evil
    Evil 24 October 2018 20: 56
    +2
    It's all about emergency diesel generator sets. They are repaired by installing Spare parts from decommissioned Diesels from the Ignalina NPP. At the same time, the price tag for such spare parts is just off scale, for example, a product from ordinary cast iron weighing 200 kg costs more than 2 million. Our Russian supplier receives a VAT refund from this. Naturally, there was a corruption component. Read more about the supplier here https://spbdnevnik.ru/news/2018-08-23/poyavilos-video-zaderzhaniya-odnogo-iz-nachalnikov-peterburgskogo-metropolitena.
  21. Antares
    Antares 24 October 2018 21: 57
    +5
    I will note that about such "accidents" of a small scale and operation of protection only about Ukrainian NPPs.
    Not a single news about turning on - but about turning off - every time. That the degree was in good shape.
    Alarmism. The NPP has better security than the President. Anyone is not allowed there and NG will shoot all the "activists" and no one will ask. Closed guarded area. The staff - all from our universities Kharkiv Odessa - that excellent personnel were trained even in the USSR. They don't take anybody. People are serious; there is no nationalism or gravitational vectors. Only work.
    For example, choosing news on VO (and in the Russian media)
    Energoatom reports that on October 21, a successful troubleshooting of the automatic control system of the turbine of the third power unit of the South Ukrainian NPP was carried out.
    The power unit was successfully connected to the power system of Ukraine.

    There is no similar news on VO.
    But shutdowns - starting with RIA Novosti - are immediately reported.
    Conclusion - selectively report only problems. Shaping exceptional mood
  22. earloop
    earloop 24 October 2018 22: 11
    -1
    God punishes for the sins committed.
  23. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 24 October 2018 22: 30
    +1
    VNA reactors remained only VVR. You can "screw up" it, you cannot blow it up, like in Chernobyl. So let them ruin. No pity. Anyway, everything is worn out to the limit ...
    1. Dr.KonradMorgen
      Dr.KonradMorgen 25 October 2018 01: 09
      -2
      Completion date of the last built from these "worn out to the limit" - November 2055, XNUMX (not typo) bully
  24. dolfi1
    dolfi1 24 October 2018 23: 33
    0
    A nightmare, if it swallows, there will not be enough for everyone who is nearby belay
  25. Zomanus
    Zomanus 24 October 2018 23: 49
    +1
    So what? Old used equipment.
    Slowly, part by part fails.
    The main thing for them to prevent leakage, and the rest can
    repair and replace.
  26. aszzz888
    aszzz888 25 October 2018 01: 43
    0
    Earlier, the State Nuclear Regulatory Inspectorate of Ukraine noted a significant increase in the number of violations in the work of nuclear power plants.

    ... and what is the nature of these "violations"? ...
  27. sgr291158
    sgr291158 25 October 2018 06: 13
    0
    Oh, no matter what happened to these clowns, otherwise it won’t seem to everyone.
  28. Olegi1
    Olegi1 26 October 2018 01: 08
    0
    There VVER installed, not RBMK, as in Chernobyl. Everyone - sleep peacefully. Those who are interested in the difference between the structures google themselves, mnogabukaf.
  29. georggy
    georggy 26 October 2018 13: 30
    0
    Zaporizhzhya IziaTop urgently wants freedom. Unpleasant .......