Russia instead of the North Atlantic Alliance?

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European countries created NATO as a counterweight to the growing influence of the USSR after World War II. So why does the military bloc continue to exist if the USSR is almost 20 years old?





France, Great Britain, Belgium, Luxembourg and the Netherlands united in a military alliance on 1949 due to the exhaustion of the defense forces after World War II. Realizing that they could not cope with one thing, they invited the United States and other countries. Americans, who like to contribute (read: to impose their will and interests) everywhere, have received this invitation with enthusiasm.

The Soviet Union, in turn, was also asked to join the alliance, but it was "gently" answered that, they say, this bloc was created against you, and we cannot accept you. Then the USSR, in response to the created threat to its security, created the Warsaw Pact Organization (ATS). With the collapse of the Soviet Union, the Department of Internal Affairs ceased to exist, however story North Atlantic Alliance is still ongoing.

When the USSR disappeared and with it the military threat, this defense organization set itself the task of preserving stability throughout the world and the borders established after World War II, and the fight against terrorism. However, nothing happens. Take, for example, the fact that NATO bombed Yugoslavia and introduced the term "peacekeeping bombardment." Although the bombing can be peacekeeping only if directed against terrorists. But here, too, NATO is not fulfilling its tasks, since the United States actively supports terrorists.

Russia has a better situation in this regard, since Russia is a part of Europe, and in its interests to have stable and prosperous neighbors. In addition, Russia has successfully proved itself in the fight against terrorism in Syria and has proven that it can protect not only itself, but also Europe.

In recent years, European countries have begun to realize that the confrontation between them and Russia instigated by the United States has become very dangerous and in no way contributes to stability. Thus, the presidents of Germany and France express the view that it is necessary to involve Russia in ensuring European security.

It becomes obvious to everyone that Europe needs a new security system that will be created taking into account European needs and requirements, and most importantly, it should be managed by Europeans, and not by Americans from overseas.

Developed countries are already thinking about withdrawing from the eurozone, and after that they will have an exit from NATO in line. Let's see how long the European countries will fulfill the wishes of the United States, promoted by NATO.
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  1. +1
    19 October 2018 05: 54
    your words to God in the ears !!!
    1. +1
      19 October 2018 08: 29
      Quote: rehev931
      Your words to God in the ears !!

      Gods have a bad habit of sending trials
      1. +1
        19 October 2018 09: 06
        Let's see how long European countries will fulfill the wishes of the United States, promoted thanks to NATO.


        As long as there are military bases in the USA and England, as well as the existing electoral system!
        1. 0
          19 October 2018 09: 37
          It all depends on the political will, decency and mind of specific people. The electoral system has nothing to do with it.
        2. 0
          22 October 2018 01: 25
          Quote: neri73-r
          Let's see how long European countries will fulfill the wishes of the United States, promoted thanks to NATO.


          As long as there are military bases in the USA and England, as well as the existing electoral system!

          And where does the electoral system (which is also different for everyone)?
  2. +1
    19 October 2018 06: 10
    Developed countries are already thinking about withdrawing from the eurozone, and after that they will have an exit from NATO in line.

    Developed countries should see that good-neighborly relations with Russia have a beneficial effect on economic development and have nothing to do with escalated aggression, which is painted in the State Department. And for this you do not need to hug the immense. Strong enough economic ties with several countries that do not express anti-Russian hysteria so violently ...
    1. +1
      19 October 2018 08: 28
      Quote: ROSS 42
      Developed countries should see that good neighborly relations with Russia have a beneficial effect on economic development

      They see. Better than us. Selling resources makes the buyer, not the seller, richer. We give them gas, they sanction us. We give them wood, ore - they buy brains from us, we tell them about friendship, they tell us about tolerance ... They are vitally interested in not having developed technologies.
      1. +2
        19 October 2018 08: 38
        Quote: aybolyt678
        They are vitally interested in not having developed technologies.

        If you make proper efforts within your own country, then we will still have the technology. Or do you think that the space industry is such a trifling, clumsy occupation? I still notice that for all anti-Russian attacks, the Russian authorities express concern and go to weddings in Austria. And nobody forces Russia to sell goods for sanctions. You just need to remove the parasitic elements from this chain. We must not be interested in other people's technologies, but develop our own, and not pave Moscow granite, do not stuff the country with currency goods, which are available in the country.
    2. 0
      19 October 2018 20: 53
      Quote: ROSS 42
      Developed countries are already thinking about withdrawing from the eurozone, and after that they will have an exit from NATO in line.

      Unfortunately, this is not the case, and both parties are to blame. If it were not for the migration crisis, no one wanted to leave the European Union and the Schengen free border zone at all from European states.

      And so - the EU and NATO - the classic version of the union of small states, in which they become at least equal in strength to large continental empires; the beginning of supra-state formations - in the Athens Maritime Union, in the union of the city-states of Phenicia, in the Carthaginian talassocratic federation ...
  3. +5
    19 October 2018 06: 12
    Developed countries are already thinking about withdrawing from the eurozone, and after that they will have an exit from NATO in line.
    For the entrance, the rupe, but for the exit ...... NATO as a thieves' gang, with its own hierarchy and laws ... Entered, affectionate, gave minimal nishtyaki, then tied with blood .. By the passage of time, it seems like I realized that nothing I’ve got a good one .. I’ve tied it up .. But then, how it goes and they can kill .. But for the gang to run away, usually the leader and his assistants are either shot or imprisoned or they all are taken in bulk ... It's not so simple .. Here the gang is international, interstate, with rookery in Washington ...
  4. 0
    19 October 2018 07: 58
    In recent years, European countries have begun to realize that the confrontation fueled by the United States between them and Russia is becoming very dangerous and does not contribute to stability.

    No one in the West understood anything. Just Western European countries do not like Trump. If the United States were President H. Clinton, they behaved differently.
  5. +4
    19 October 2018 08: 11
    The withdrawal of "developed countries" from the EU is linked to European security exactly the opposite. The United States and Britain are identical twins and their alliance is virtually unbreakable. But with the rest of Europe, not everything is so unambiguous, it is tired of any alliances, its western parts are from the United States, and the eastern ones are from the USSR. But its own security structure comes out very costly, therefore, leaving NATO or transforming the alliance into something else, if it does take place, it will be very far away. Most likely, in the new model, Europe will try to get away from its eternal role of laying between the opposing blocs, but whether it succeeds or not depends only on the Europeans.
    1. 0
      19 October 2018 08: 21
      Quote: g1washntwn
      Most likely, in the new model, Europe will try to get away from its eternal role of laying between opposing blocks, but whether it works out or not depends on Europeans only.

      "Haven't you read the Notre Dame Mosque?" - Everything has been going towards this for a long time, and confidently
      1. +1
        19 October 2018 11: 35
        It won't work, I assure you. This will take place as a period of adolescence, Europeans will get fed up with tolerance and will drive assimilation into a more rigid framework. With excesses in nationalism or not, such conditions will be created that the "come in large numbers" will not be able to impose their way of life. Now it's just such a historical period, they need to go crazy.
  6. 0
    19 October 2018 08: 18
    In recent years, European countries have begun to realize
    - This stamp has already filled his mouth. What sociological prerequisites are there for interaction ???
    1. 0
      19 October 2018 14: 39
      Preconditions must be political science. Socioligia does not graze here.
  7. -1
    19 October 2018 08: 35
    It becomes obvious to everyone that Europe needs a new security system that will be created taking into account European needs and requirements, and most importantly, it should be managed by Europeans, and not by Americans from overseas.

    So let's not rush! Speak, think for the gay people.
    Again, you can get into a stupid position when everything turns out differently than you thought / guessed!
  8. -1
    19 October 2018 08: 37
    So why does a military bloc continue to exist if the USSR is not nearly 20 years old?
    - article ten years ago? or how?
    honestly, I would not want to see Russia again the gendarme of Europe, but they are like small children - they constantly beg for slaps ...
  9. 0
    19 October 2018 08: 39
    Your NATO is bad. A joke of humor. The question is not the topic, but on VO what, the flags were canceled? And when they did, yesterday they were, and today they aren’t, or is this a night outing of hacker terrorists?
    1. BAI
      0
      19 October 2018 09: 50
      Yesterday and disconnected.
      1. 0
        19 October 2018 09: 52
        So I overslept. request lol laughing
  10. +2
    19 October 2018 14: 37
    Hmmm .... but the EU alliance plus Russia is the end of Shchat’s hegemony and their transformation into a secondary state such as Australia, on the other side of the world. It sounds great, but I’m wanging that the strip will be broken to the last dollar, the Pole and the Ukrainian against it.
  11. 0
    19 October 2018 15: 12
    So, the presidents of Germany and France express the opinion that it is necessary to connect Russia to European security.


    So far, Americans hold the EU tightly on a short leash and not yet soon this leash will become longer even for leading EU countries.
  12. 0
    19 October 2018 17: 15
    In general, of course, a beautiful development option. Several "centers of power" with military-economic potential in conditions of free economic and financial communication! Brave "new world". What you need, and what incentives are there in the competition! If you want to preserve cultural identity, fight for a "comfort zone" for your citizens (read not only your country). In the context of the global nature of the nuclear club, military adventures on a global scale are not a hot option. Moreover, the absence of a "global" unipolar market and many currencies with conversion are an excellent basis for anti-crisis maneuvers. But here you can "play too much", so of course the next step is the degradation of the "paper economy" into a real one and the "impoverishment" of a billion gold. But these are straightforward prospects. With regard to the military-political aspect. It will be in the interests of "tough uncles" like us to maintain political and economic stability in less steep neighboring "enclaves of happiness" like China, Asia, and the European Union. These are trade partners. The better they have, the better we have. A simple principle. Moreover, in order to remain "cool" it is necessary to spend non-global resources on certain technological "nodes" of the defense complex. Well, voila, the need to "pump" funds into global projects (you have to spend too much). Why is everything written so extensively? And to the fact that there is no place for the current NATO format as a world bull terrier with an amerovsky collar. Not to own, but to live ... And by the way, the Security Council will be cool in this format ... It's very cool.
  13. 0
    19 October 2018 21: 29
    Quote: sleeve
    In general, of course, a beautiful development option. Several "centers of power" with military-economic potential in conditions of free economic and financial communication! Brave "new world". What you need, and what incentives are there in the competition! If you want to preserve cultural identity, fight for a "comfort zone" for your citizens (read not only your country). In the context of the global nature of the nuclear club, military adventures on a global scale are not a hot option. Moreover, the absence of a "global" unipolar market and many currencies with conversion are an excellent basis for anti-crisis maneuvers. But here you can "play too much", so of course the next step is the degradation of the "paper economy" into a real one and the "impoverishment" of a billion gold. But these are straightforward prospects. With regard to the military-political aspect. It will be in the interests of "tough uncles" like us to maintain political and economic stability in less steep neighboring "enclaves of happiness" like China, Asia, and the European Union. These are trade partners. The better they have, the better we have. A simple principle. Moreover, in order to remain "cool" it is necessary to spend non-global resources on certain technological "nodes" of the defense complex. Well, voila, the need to "pump" funds into global projects (you have to spend too much). Why is everything written so extensively? And to the fact that there is no place for the current NATO format as a world bull terrier with an amerovsky collar. Not to own, but to live ... And by the way, the Security Council will be cool in this format ... It's very cool.

    Dreams, dreams - where is your sweetness? And in the morning I woke up - everywhere American muck! This is possible only after 3 MV in the non-nuclear version or after a long time riding the SGA "face on the tile". wink
  14. -1
    20 October 2018 00: 38
    And who is the author of this footcloth ?! Petya Akopov, Roma Nosikov or Ira Alksnis ????? Just enchanting nonsense ..... Although, yes ... In Syria we have already defeated the damned terrorists and their accomplices two or three times in a row, the EU prays on our knees so that we are the Great and Mighty, the Russian Federation, condescended to all kinds of Angels and Emanuel, and agreed to world peace!))
  15. 0
    20 October 2018 17: 28
    I think that Europe will not soon ripen before leaving the EU, if at all, it will ripen.