Russia needs cheap gasoline!

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It would seem that a rather strange question we put into the title. However, after our comment on a negative outlook gasoline prices has caused a truly unprecedented interest of readers, it is simply impossible not to ask them.

To begin with, for Russia, especially for its many suburbs and enclaves, stable transportation to the metropolis is a matter of life and death. On strategic considerations will not even extend. Therefore, in a number of cases, we just need not just to have cheap fuel available and not just to have a lot of fuel, but to have it so much that it is enough for any unforeseen events and circumstances.



There is another consideration that can be classified as strategic. Russia still remains the most promising potential destination for the East-West global transit route, no matter how China promoted its Silk Road project. If transit with a length of several thousand kilometers is also supported by cheap fuel, many of its advantages will clearly be perceived quite differently. More precisely, with much greater enthusiasm.

Russia needs cheap gasoline!


Do not forget that the relatively cheap gasoline is included in the cost of almost any product, both produced in our country, and transported by it. And therefore, relatively cheap fuel is one of the few competitive advantages that Russian business actually has. In addition to it, the advantage, although very doubtful, remains also the cheapness of labor, highly skilled as well.

There is also in a certain sense an unimportant factor in favor of cheap gasoline. Power, keeping relatively low prices for gasoline, can thereby stimulate deeper processing of hydrocarbons - in plastic, varnishes and paints, polymeric materials, etc. Alas, if this were indeed the case, it would only remain to rejoice at our deep refining. In reality, there are no incentives and no direct connection here yet.

But back to the actual fuel. At the start of reforms, Russia had at its disposal almost the cheapest fuel among all countries with any developed industry. After the default of 1998, gasoline in the country in general fell sharply in dollar terms, but quickly began to go up in rubles. The process of returning to the prices of the summer level of the same 98 of the year managed to stretch almost to the next big crisis that happened at the turn of 2008-2009.

It is characteristic that our domestic market has always been saved at all by the competition between the oil giants, which their representatives are constantly trying to convince us. This is only an attempt to once again justify the division of the most profitable sector of the economy, which was turned in the middle of the 90-s under the guise of large-scale Chubais privatization. The colossal capacity of the still Soviet oil refineries along with the limited possibilities of exporting oil and oil products abroad saved the market.

In principle, it is the huge volumes of gas produced in the country that help us even now. Nevertheless, regular petrol crises happened in Russia both in the same dashing 90, and in fat zero, and under sanctions, and without any sanctions. And yet, recently, the fuel situation has become at least a little more acceptable. After the ruble four years ago once again fell at the rate of the euro and the dollar, a liter of gasoline at Russian gas stations even fell slightly.

But only in dollar terms. If in the summer of 2014 of the year for a liter of 95, it was necessary to give 30,5 rubles, that is, almost 0,75 dollars, by the fall of the ruble price rose to 35,2 rubles, which with a rise in price of dollars from just 45 to 50 cents. After that, the dollar jumps, as well as the euro, were no longer so strong, but the price of gasoline continued to rise after the currencies. As with the rising price of oil, and with a falling.

However, in the spring of this year, it was not possible to keep such a relatively favorable situation even at the cost of titanic efforts in the fight against the kings of gas stations. Then, we recall, the prices at the gas station in dollar terms almost returned to the levels of just 2014 of the year. With the price of 95 gasoline almost 50 rubles per liter, the mark in the 0,75 dollar was very close, but it wasn’t allowed to reach it - the Antimonopoly Service in a duet with the Ministry of Energy.

But now, due to the slow, but rather confident recovery of the national currency, gasoline, if, again, is counted on the dollar, also increases in price, and also, albeit slowly, but quite confidently. And there is hardly any doubt that even after the ruble goes down again, nothing of the kind will happen to gasoline.

Concluding our brief review, we note that, generally speaking, the maxims of our fuel market regulators themselves that Russia is almost the cheapest gasoline in the world have no basis. The cheapest gasoline (and this fact is well known) for today in Venezuela. There it costs only 0,01 dollars per liter, which is really very cheap compared to Russian 0,6 dollars. But how it turns out is also well known.

On corruption in those circles that are engaged in this country with gasoline subsidies, we better keep silent. The acute shortage of fuel at the Venezuelan gas stations, especially in the outback, wholesale speculation, sharp disassembly between various “special” buyers, and finally, just squandering too cheap fuel — all this has long become the norm in Venezuela. But, judging by the latest events, all this, obviously, very soon will be in the past.

In addition to Venezuela, gasoline is cheaper than in Russia, and significantly, in several other countries. Of course, in oil-producing countries - for example, in Saudi Arabia, the Emirates, Iran, Kuwait, Malaysia and Nigeria. But the main thing is not even that. The fact is that gasoline prices must be compared with the level of income in the country. And with this we have the situation you know how. So, according to a study conducted by British Petroleum this year, if a Russian has to pay almost 1 / 40 a part of their daily earnings for a liter of gasoline, then, for example, an American takes less than half a percent of his money to a liter of “expensive” gasoline that is, the smaller 1 / 200 parts.



We Russians, we have to put up with the fact that most Europeans, and even the Japanese and Chinese, also pay a little for gasoline. Indeed, more Russians pay for gasoline to residents of only nine countries from 61, examined by BP experts. To be among them was not lucky, for example, to Mexicans, Canadians and Greeks.

It remains to be glad that such dubious cheapness of Russian gasoline generally has little effect on all sorts of business components, which were discussed at the beginning of our review.
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  1. +1
    3 October 2018 05: 04
    I already brought this video, but I will refer to it again. It describes in great detail and intelligibly the situation with fuel prices, and why the rise in price is inevitable.
    1. dSK
      +4
      3 October 2018 20: 49
      Quote: kuznec
      rise in price is inevitable.
      In the states always WITI oil was cheaper than BRENT and fuel cheaper when oil prices fell. And the government has always sought to prevent rising fuel prices. This is the key to the development of production. They have a different tax system.
      Our Ministry of Finance replenishes the budget through excise taxes, makes how easier and sneezes at all. The same story with a flat tax rate PIT - tax can not be collected on a progressive scale? All of Europe and the States are collecting, our tax authorities are not ...
      1. dSK
        +1
        4 October 2018 00: 15
        Oil supplies from the USA to China are almost completely discontinued amid a trade conflict between the countries, Reuters reports, citing the president of China Merchants Energy Shipping (the largest oil carrier on the route) / Kommersant, yesterday at 22: 24 /
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  3. +11
    3 October 2018 05: 45
    It’s possible to come to an agreement and up to a dollar for six rubles .... I remember it was .... No ... Only you can take off our last underpants ... And then the skin .... Following the bones and meat ... Only we can stand it ...
    1. +8
      3 October 2018 05: 56
      Quote: Vard
      to the dollar at


      0,63 rubles.

      Quote: Vard
      I remember it was ...


      hi
      1. -1
        3 October 2018 06: 05
        And why about this nostalgic ??? Although sometimes you need to cry sad
      2. 0
        7 October 2018 20: 43
        Quote: Vanek
        Quote: Vard
        to the dollar at


        0,63 rubles.

        Quote: Vard
        I remember it was ...


        hi

        0,59
        Moreover, I saw how our country was robbed of foreign tourists :)
  4. 0
    3 October 2018 06: 32
    We Russians have to put up with the fact that most Europeans, and even the Japanese and Chinese, also pay little for gas.

    ... but after all, we should travel in OWN territories, and not in the geyrop, Japan or China ... request
  5. +33
    3 October 2018 06: 36
    Russia needs cheap gasoline, the international of shareholders of corporations from the Russian Federation - no. This is the reality of the structure in which we live.
    1. +2
      3 October 2018 08: 15
      Quote: samarin1969
      +5
      Russia needs cheap gasoline, the international of shareholders of corporations from the Russian Federation - no.

      This is the invisible hand of the market. No kidding.
      If you oblige them to sell petroleum products in Russia at a reduced price, there will be a fuel shortage because they will sell everything abroad because they pay more there.
      And this applies not only to the oil industry, but also to any other resources.
      1. +1
        3 October 2018 08: 35
        It’s nice to read people who think with their heads and don’t shout * everything is gone * or * we will kill everyone *. Plus.
      2. +13
        3 October 2018 08: 43
        Quote: Gray Brother
        If you oblige them to sell petroleum products in Russia at a reduced price, there will be a fuel shortage because they will sell everything abroad because they pay more there.

        And in order to drive less fuel abroad, you just need to introduce duties on its export! The state is entitled to it.
        1. +1
          3 October 2018 09: 08
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          And in order to drive less fuel abroad, you just need to introduce duties on its export!

          Then we will lose sales markets abroad, we will be crowded out and losses will be large.
          1. 0
            5 October 2018 12: 14
            Quote: raw174
            Then we will lose sales markets abroad, we will be crowded out and the losses will be large

            They will not supplant us, but sechina. can then the government focus not on Sechin’s income, but on domestic consumers? Well, though ... as the guarantor stated, the business should not suffer losses, that is, all its losses will be transferred to my skinny wallet. no matter how it gets worse
            1. -1
              5 October 2018 12: 37
              Quote: aglet
              not displace us, but sechina

              Not Sechin, but Rosneft then, probably? Read - RosNefteGaz, which is a 100% state-owned company.

              You need to think, then write something. And then the wallet will always be so

              Quote: aglet
              skinny
              1. -1
                3 November 2018 13: 14
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                You need to think, then write something

                I am very sorry, I read late. Rosneft is a semi-state company, 51% of the state has shares. at the same time, the profits go to the shareholders and the losses to the budget, i.e. to me. Gazprom is the same. And for the first time I hear about Rosneftegaz, these are your fantasies. but there cannot be 100% of the state
                1. -2
                  3 November 2018 13: 25
                  Quote: aglet
                  For the first time I hear about Rosneftegaz

                  For your reference:

                  Rosneftegaz is a Russian company managing assets in the oil and gas industry. Rosneftegaz is the owner of a controlling stake in Rosneft, a 10,97% stake in Gazprom, and also a 26,36% stake in Inter RAO [3]. Full name - ROSNEFTEGAS Joint-Stock Company.

                  100% of Rosneftegaz shares are owned by the state represented by the Federal Property Management Agency

                  Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
                  1. 0
                    4 November 2018 09: 09
                    Quote: Consultant
                    100% of Rosneftegaz shares are owned by the state represented by the Federal Property Management Agency

                    and how many percent of the entire lump of oil and gas is it? 100, too? and in general all these companies profess one principle - privatization of profit and nationalization of losses. otherwise, such an ass wouldn’t be looming in the economy.
                    1. -3
                      4 November 2018 09: 26
                      You ask too many questions, the answers to which you can find yourself.

                      Quote: aglet
                      and how many percent of the entire piece of oil and gas is this? 100 too?

                      Go ... to Google laughing

                      Quote: aglet
                      all these companies profess one principle - privatization of profits and nationalization of losses

                      Yes, and at the same time, these companies give half of the budget revenue. And how do they do it, is it somehow strange, don’t you find it? wink

                      Quote: aglet
                      otherwise, such an economy would not loom ...

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                      a) Mat in any form (open and veiled, the famous phrase of Lavrov "Morons, b ..." refers to the mat, dots of some letters "on x ...",), as well as quoting a comment with MAT, swearing ; insult and threats against the opponent. The rough form of speech ("ass", "shit", etc.) ("" also refers to mat, exception - articles on dog breeding) [/ quote]
                      Reread the site rules, in your own interests.

                      Quote: aglet
                      and nls would not raise fuel prices and pensions did not touch

                      This is from another completely opera. I answered you a specific question:

                      Quote: aglet
                      For the first time I hear about Rosneftegaz

                      Now, I hope you are aware of what it is hi
                      1. 0
                        4 November 2018 09: 29
                        Quote: Consultant
                        Go ... to Google

                        it’s not necessary to send to the Google for every reason. I can count it in my mind.
                      2. -2
                        4 November 2018 09: 30
                        Quote: aglet
                        I can count it in my mind

                        Then why questions?

                        Quote: aglet
                        and how many percent of the entire piece of oil and gas is this?

                        Count, spell out ... I'll put you a plus sign. May be.
                      3. 0
                        4 November 2018 09: 32
                        Quote: Consultant
                        Yes, and at the same time give half of the revenue side of the budget. And how do they do it, is it somehow strange, don’t you find it?

                        do not forget to mention that then they take them from the budget, and that the budget remains. you can see in the google
                      4. 0
                        4 November 2018 09: 40
                        Quote: Consultant

                        This is from another completely opera. I answered you a specific question

                        I did not ask this question, but two have already answered me. But here the priority is given. And he did not send to google. and about the rude form of speech, do you read all the comments, or only those that accidentally fell out? if something, read, you will learn a lot of new and interesting things for yourself
                      5. 0
                        4 November 2018 10: 00
                        Quote: Consultant
                        Quote: aglet
                        For the first time I hear about Rosneftegaz

                        Now, I hope you are aware of what it is

                        yes, in the course, I even remembered a lot after the golovan's comment. however, this did not cause me to tears of affection - "the company's activity is in the ownership of state blocks of shares", i.e. again divide the profit between the budget and their beloved ones - Rosneftegaz, from which the budget regularly comes less than planned
                        Read more at RBC:
                        https://www.rbc.ru/economics
                        Rosneftegaz is the layer through which the government owns 50% of Rosneft, 10,9% of Gazprom, 27,63% of Inter RAO. Their dividends due to the state are deposited in the holding, and it should only give to the budget half net profit
                        here's something like that. data for 2017. not looking further, lazy. who cares, go to google
                      6. 0
                        4 November 2018 10: 09
                        Quote: Consultant
                        Yes, and at the same time give half of the revenue side of the budget. And how do they do it, is it somehow strange, don’t you find it?

                        do not forget to write how much they are then paid from the poverty budget
        2. +6
          3 October 2018 09: 08
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          you just need to enter duties on its export! The state has the right to do so.

          So they are, and even the state has the right to raise them, depending on the situation. Only there such a thing, the main tax, is a production tax and it is collected from every ton of oil produced. Therefore, if you cut the export, then tax revenues will fall.
          For the good, it would be necessary if everything were not nationalized, then at least prescribed such an opportunity by law and under the guise of this bogeyman to oblige oil producers to supply a certain amount of raw materials to the domestic market at state tariffs.
          Otherwise, the "invisible hand of the market" can be fiddled with endlessly.
        3. 0
          10 October 2018 02: 46
          Production will be curtailed and all business ... they are not big, short-term losses, but we grieve.
      3. 0
        3 October 2018 09: 55
        Quote: Gray Brother
        If you oblige them to sell petroleum products in Russia at a reduced price, there will be a fuel shortage because they will sell everything abroad because they pay more there.

        Wow, how? belay But taxation for those who want to get in Russia and sell abroad does not help? If you change it in favor of most citizens ... recourse Although, what changes can there be in the country where the law "CHV" rules ...
        1. 0
          3 October 2018 10: 33
          Quote: ROSS 42
          But taxation for those who want to get in Russia and sell abroad does not help?

          I wrote above why it does not help. A hit on the budget.
          Quote: ROSS 42
          If you change it in favor of most citizens ...

          How's that?
          1. 0
            3 November 2018 13: 20
            Quote: Gray Brother
            How's that?

            progressive tax is called. and you can think about the nationalization of inefficient production, this is when there is not enough gasoline for your country
      4. +1
        5 October 2018 12: 22
        Quote: Gray Brother
        Quote: samarin1969
        +5
        Russia needs cheap gasoline, the international of shareholders of corporations from the Russian Federation - no.

        This is the invisible hand of the market. No kidding.
        If you oblige them to sell petroleum products in Russia at a reduced price, there will be a fuel shortage because they will sell everything abroad because they pay more there.
        And this applies not only to the oil industry, but also to any other resources.

        It’s right when oilmen pay only for the production and transportation of oil that belongs to the state. Then it will be possible to put things in order with gas prices and with budget revenues, it will be completely different, and Russian money will not settle in offshore companies.
      5. +1
        9 October 2018 08: 04
        and if you stop paying VAT (when they are shipped over a hill, they are returned to him), then you can get HERE to leave oil ...
  6. +8
    3 October 2018 06: 49
    And it is hardly worth doubting that even after the ruble goes down again, nothing like this will happen to gasoline.
    ... Doubts, somehow, so they do not torment the occasion ....
  7. +5
    3 October 2018 06: 57
    Transfusion from empty to empty. Compare the tax components of gas prices in Europe, the US and Russia, after which everything will become clear. And it will be clear why, with a decrease in the cost of a barrel of oil worldwide, the price of gasoline falls, and in our country it rises anyway.
    1. +19
      3 October 2018 07: 23
      Quote: inkass_98
      Compare the tax components of gasoline prices in Europe

      By the way, yes. This is called the indirect taxation of the entire population of the country, for it is foolish to think that the oligarchs will pay excise taxes from their own pockets.
      Personally, I, refueling at least 5 tr per month, pay the state more than 4 tr, i.e. more than 13% of the tax already paid. And if you take into account that the employer underestimates my salary by 34%, and 20% of the VAT included in the price of any product, then personally I give the state 80% of my income in the region. request
      1. -21
        3 October 2018 07: 39
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        I personally give the state around 80% of my income

        Have pity on you or something ... crying
    2. 0
      3 November 2018 13: 23
      Quote: inkass_98
      Compare the tax components of gas prices in Europe, the USA and Russia, after which everything will become clear

      and you still compare what taxes the local companies pay and which ours. 13% is a dream for many. and don’t tell me about ndp- ways to get around it- a million, and everyone bypasses
  8. +11
    3 October 2018 07: 07
    And I recall a business trip to Turkmenistan to zero ... I counted three times on the calculator and did not believe everything - for one dollar 50 liters of gasoline !!!!
    1. +5
      3 October 2018 07: 24
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      for one dollar 50 liters of gasoline !!!!

      This is for you at this price. Locals get gas for free, though there is a limit, exceeding which, they pay the same for it.
      1. +2
        3 October 2018 12: 08
        The other day, free fuel, water, and salt were canceled in Turkmenistan.
        1. -1
          7 October 2018 20: 56
          Quote: Sergej1972
          The other day, free fuel, water, and salt were canceled in Turkmenistan.

          Soon they will finish the gas pipeline to India - then, probably, there will also give money for the purchase of the same fuel, water and salt. :)
  9. +6
    3 October 2018 07: 37
    have to give almost 1/40 of the daily earnings, then, for example, an American takes less than half a percent of his earnings per liter of “expensive” gasoline, that is, less than 1/200 of the part ...... If in Russia we start talking about raising salaries, then prices will overtake these increases. Compare prices in stores and talk about raising pensions.
  10. +11
    3 October 2018 08: 11
    What are you? Cheap gas in Russia? Why, then the products will become cheaper, the cost of transportation will decrease! All prices may fall! And where is the wretchedness ... Government take VAT then? And so in the budget for the maintenance of the state is not enough! Everything was stolen from the nestles, there was one from Sakhalin who had finished it, the second one there still drew some more lard! There will be nothing to look at and snoop!
    1. -9
      3 October 2018 08: 31
      It is interesting to get oil from the depths in places very remote from civilization, to deliver, to carry out a complex, energy-intensive operation of separation of fractions which requires the most complex and expensive equipment, at the exit of the fuel at a price cheaper than a can of orange or apple juice. Seriously? Do you really believe that gas can be so cheap? Do you understand that you are heavily subsidized with gasoline?
      1. -1
        3 November 2018 13: 31
        Quote: EvilLion
        to get oil from a depth in places extremely remote from civilization, to deliver, to carry out a complex, energy-intensive operation of fraction separation, which requires complex and expensive equipment,

        do you get this oil in buckets from that depth? and dividing it into fractions is a simple production, simply large in size, moreover, built back in the USSR. and what, a liter of gasoline should cost like a bar of gold? and come to this soon
  11. -11
    3 October 2018 08: 24
    The fact is that gasoline prices must be compared with the level of income in the country.


    Who needs? Oil product manufacturer? And why are you indignant at prices? Because you are not profitable? Well, selling oil and oil products for pennies, when they can be sold much more expensively, for export is also unprofitable.

    However, our state, which you hate so much and which you, allegedly brutally robbing, does not do this, and demands to supply gasoline to the domestic market for almost nothing, so that you, ungrateful, can buy a second car and transfer huge resources on trips to the vegetable gardens with which you stifle agriculture, or behind a bucket of wormy mushrooms kilometers away from 100 from the city. Well, or to work, for me this is the main cause of traffic jams, accidents of cars because of which then no one can drive to the local industrial zone. Would go by bus, all would be well.

    It's time to limit the free sale of fuel.
    1. -1
      3 November 2018 13: 36
      Quote: EvilLion
      Nevertheless, our state, which you hate so much, and which supposedly robbing you, does not do this, and requires supplying gasoline to the domestic market practically for nothing

      our government, or rather, the government supplies gas to the market at almost American prices, for free it pays salaries to the same oil workers and processors (not to be confused with Sechin, although it is also an oilman). and as I understand it, you don’t have a car
  12. +14
    3 October 2018 08: 51
    gasoline is good, but it won't be cheap

    high price for it is a source of budget rolls and pockets of oligarchs
    1. 0
      3 October 2018 09: 12
      You do not have a comment, then a picture from the Internet ... Do you have any thoughts at all?
      1. +11
        3 October 2018 12: 07
        Quote: Less
        No thoughts at all?

        In this scenario, they are almost all dumb .... feel
      2. +4
        3 October 2018 19: 52
        Quote: Less
        No thoughts at all?


        .... everyone is dumb.

        only mate, and not censored
        Quote: Less
        You do not have a comment, then a picture from the Internet ..

        this is for clarity, to more often see the face of the pet and his statements.
        1. -3
          3 October 2018 20: 10
          Quote: Silvestr
          only mate, and not censored

          Develop your imagination and thought process, read books, in the end you are not from the generation of the exam that you do not like so much.
          Quote: Silvestr
          to more often see the face of the pet and his statements.

          And the pictures to other topics, where is the face of the "favorite" against the background of the statements that he did not utter? What's this? Lies, hypocrisy, fake news? Explain
          Quote: Silvestr
          for clarity
          1. +5
            3 October 2018 20: 18
            Quote: Less
            And the pictures to other topics, where is the face of the "favorite" against the background of the statements that he did not utter? What's this? Lies, hypocrisy, fake news? Explain

            want to say that all his attempts on gas for 14 years are not his? Wasn’t it?
            Explain.
            As for the rest, then his affairs do not correspond to the result that we have?
            Does he have anything to do with it?
            find the logical connection between his position on pension reform and the country's economy ..

            what is not the correspondence ???
            In a strong economy and a lack of money for retirees, or in a weak economy and the availability of pension money?
            When does he tell a lie - at the beginning or at the end? So what is our economy?
      3. +2
        10 October 2018 02: 50
        What for? It hurts to think!
      4. -2
        3 November 2018 13: 39
        Quote: Less
        You do not have a comment, then a picture from the Internet ... Do you have any thoughts at all?

        This picture clearly represents the president’s concern for the people. their thoughts on this subject, but they are completely obscene
  13. +4
    3 October 2018 09: 02
    An article by an alien dreamer.
    Gas prices are the result of mathematical scam you know who.
    Well, who told you that twice two four? Do you still believe that?
  14. +5
    3 October 2018 09: 05
    In addition to Venezuela, gasoline is cheaper than in Russia, and significantly, in several more countries. Of course, in oil producers - for example, in Saudi Arabia, the Emirates, Iran, Kuwait, Malaysia and Nigeria.

    Why don't I see the USA here? There the prices differ, of course, at the place of the gas station, but not in our favor!
    Recently, our crayfish water-makers shouted that "in the USA, gasoline is more expensive than ours!" and quickly caught up at the prices of the gate. And then our prices caught up with theirs! And what did they start to blow into our ears?
    Of course, about expensive gasoline in Europe!
    I don’t want to offend people of non-traditional sexual orientation by comparing these upside down with them!
  15. +7
    3 October 2018 10: 09
    Can someone tell me - do we have a comprehensive plan for the economic development of the country or not? Until there is such a document designed for 5-10-20-50-100 years, there is nothing to expect anything good. And poking like blind kittens either into a bridge or into a high-speed railway, while plants and factories close and turn into shopping and entertainment centers and the situation with local demographics is such that at least a guard shouting will not lead to anything good. The devil himself won’t understand where we’re going, capitalism hasn’t been built in almost thirty years, socialism is falling like a cardboard house, where anyone knows where to go, hanging out like it is in an ice hole. The Communists in twenty years from 21 to 41 built an industrial power, and the current wreckers only steal and the army created the stolen to defend everything.
  16. +12
    3 October 2018 10: 45
    As Comrade Saakhov said, "do not confuse your personal coat with the state."
    Our government and the president, at the time of the complete orgarch administration of Russia, agreed to withdraw, in a gangster way, their interest through excise taxes. Without thinking about the development of the state AT ALL. Today, the country is different, ropes and pillars are being prepared for all liberals in the economy who have turned out to be agents of the global forces of the West. Today, when it is not speculators-traders from Mountain Jews who rule, but industrial capital, such as Rostec, it is vital to reduce costs and the cost of goods. To do this, industrialization is needed as a response to sanctions, which means that you need cheap fuel, cheaper transportation of Russian Railways and cheap electricity. But so far only liberals run the HSE, while Prime Minister Dimon, a lawyer by training (according to the lawyers themselves, this means that there is no education at all), while ALL generating power stations are in the hands of oligarchic groups, there will be NOTHING. We need a statesman who is a fan of the country, and not of a house in Italy and his wife’s fur store ....
  17. +5
    3 October 2018 11: 12
    The cheapest gasoline (and this is a well-known fact) for today in Venezuela. There, it costs only 0,01 dollars per liter, which, compared with the Russian 0,6 dollars, you will agree, really, very cheap.

    More precisely, the wording will probably be available gasoline. This is where the fun begins. Availability is determined by the amount of gasoline that can be bought at an average salary in the currency of a particular country. The picture then turns out to be completely different.
  18. +7
    3 October 2018 12: 01
    Increasing the competitiveness of products in Russia is carried out primarily through the payment of labor to reduce it in dollar terms, by shifting taxes on the workers themselves and this with our resources. At one factory heating, we lose to Asia, but we could have taken a different path. Do not drive abroad oil, gas, email. energy, and lowering the prices for local enterprises, it would really push the economy to growth. And together with automation and robotization, it would give impetus to the development of Siberia, not hectares should be given, energy was needed, but it was clamped.
    1. +7
      3 October 2018 13: 05
      The main increase in cost goes to kickbacks, shadow salaries and bribes, payment of certificates “from above” and others. Look, the level of salaries of government officials of all stripes and their standard of living. There are no miracles, we all pay for this banquet.
  19. +3
    3 October 2018 12: 12
    It is necessary to improve the railway network, modernize the Russian Railways. In my opinion, trucking is hypertrophied in our country.
  20. +13
    3 October 2018 13: 08
    To be honest, podzadollo. What the hell, you live in our latitudes, where the average annual temperature is 2 degrees Celsius. Due to the constructed cascade of hydroelectric power stations (on the Kama and the Volga), the climate has completely deteriorated since the mid-fifties. Rain and cold. Nothing is growing. Since then, there have been fewer industrial enterprises. It would seem - surplus energy, give people at a penny cost - to heat their homes, baths, saunas, greenhouses and winter gardens, let them live, enjoy, fruit and vegetables grow. No, where is there - he insulated the balcony in his apartment - he made himself a mini-gym-cabinet, hung an infrared heater of 400 W, turned it on, turned on the power supply a month later, turned it off.
    For cars - pay a tax, buy a spare part, buy a CTP, don't forget the "W" sign (the rubber is as old as the car, there are no studs anymore - but you need to), then go to the gas station, they just drew new price tags - the price is growing, everything is stable, this is not some kind of rating of the prime minister or president. Have you thought of installing a gas cylinder? Che, the smartest one? Give the examination, go, pay the money, the traffic police go, pay the money, pay for LPG, pay for gas (propane rises in price faster than gasoline, + 30% per year with us). Che, refueled? Do you still have money? Let's go to the paid parking lot, fuck that the Soviet people still built these streets for everyone and everyone, but your taxes and excise taxes were then repaired - let's get twenty per hour. Save money at lunch - you eat instead of normal food (tasty and healthy, like in the USSR, find another try) or don't eat at all. Do you feel how the state needs it? Have you worked? Let's go home, but first through the school (which is decent and in the central district, a lot of money (legally) went away so that the children could study there. But for an apartment nearby, in the center - it still doesn't work out for now, well, no way, you're still for the current mortgage did not pay). Did you take the children? Well done. The textbook must be purchased. New gym shoes and gym shoes. To the class fund and membership fees. Come on, come on. I arrived?
    It’s cold, October has begun - they have given warmth to the house - Olya, wait - the amount in the receipt will grow very much, and the Perm Grid Company has no money for a quality and timely repair of its heating systems, but for bonuses of one hundred thousand euros to its homemakers with registration in foreign offshore - always is. Che there with a ticket? Oh, a new water meter is necessary - let's go to the store ... Look, don't get sick. Medications are expensive, tests are expensive. Etc. etc.
    PS Depressed - turn on TV, there you will show the evil crest and good Putin. Feel better? 8)))
    PPS And what about the most Orthodox way, a friend suddenly fell into Germany - don’t look, it’s necessary. Him, not you.
  21. 0
    3 October 2018 13: 11
    The price of a liter of gasoline in itself can be high, but under appropriate conditions in the economy, the conversation should first of all be about the efficiency, economy of spending funds collected through gasoline taxes (and they make up 2/3 of the price), and the ruling to stop stealing the budget by the clans!
  22. +1
    3 October 2018 13: 50
    The most promising direction for Russia from east to west is the northern sea route. Cheap gasoline doesn't solve anything. When the Union was cheap gas, but the priority was given to the railways. Why?
  23. 0
    3 October 2018 16: 31

    Here is the answer of the authors of the Kramol website to expensive gasoline.
    1. +1
      3 October 2018 18: 32
      Unfortunately from Saudi Arabia, Russia has a very long oil and gas infrastructure and all of it must be maintained in working condition, and these are people, machinery, spare parts, equipment, modernization and construction of new plants throughout Russia - in winter and summer, this is to the question why gasoline is expensive and where the money goes - Gazprom has an annual turnover of 7 trillion rubles, net profit of 800 billion, Rosneft 6 trillion and 400 billion net profit, both companies are state-owned.
      1. 0
        3 November 2018 13: 53
        Quote: Vadim237
        Gazprom has an annual turnover of 7 trillion rubles, net profit of 800 billion, Rosneft has 6 trillion and 400 billion net profit, both companies are state-owned

        they would steal less and any unnecessary, but very expensive crap bought, and the income would be higher. but how a kindergarten, or departmental housing to support the same gazprom-nizza, non-core costs fall on the cost price. but as a whole team of idlers - millionaires called Zenith to feed, and even to build a stadium for them - the cost does not fall. moreover, to sponsor all sorts of rains, and then pay the shareholders, and there is no income, again ask Medvedev for money, for production. Well, at least he doesn't refuse. "No money" is for pensioners, for Gazprom, there is always. national treasure, his mother ...
  24. BAI
    -2
    3 October 2018 16: 42
    You can talk about anything. But the price of gasoline is tied to the dollar and depends entirely on this (taking into account that it never drops). All thoughts on what should be the price of gasoline are secondary.
    1. 0
      3 November 2018 13: 56
      Quote: BAI
      But the price of gasoline is tied to the dollar and depends entirely on it (given that it never drops)

      The price of gasoline depends only on the cost of production. but the cost of gasoline at gas stations depends only on the greed of the seller and the toothlessness of the government
  25. 0
    3 October 2018 16: 59
    Quote: raw174
    Quote: СРЦ П-15
    And in order to drive less fuel abroad, you just need to introduce duties on its export!

    Then we will lose sales markets abroad, we will be crowded out and losses will be large.

    In addition to the Sumerians, how many gasoline are supplied per cordon?
  26. -6
    3 October 2018 18: 08
    And immediately the question arises - at whose expense gasoline should be cheap - the region from the sale of gasoline in the form of excise taxes, gets more than a trillion rubles every year.
  27. +2
    3 October 2018 20: 05
    ICE is morally obsolete 60-70 years ago. But no one will allow to transfer all the transport to the same nuclear engine. Or anti-gravity. Well, what grandmothers will be lost!
  28. +5
    3 October 2018 21: 02
    Duty, taxes, dara-bara .... yes, at least dig oil in the yard, the oligarchy will still take the money from you. Well, begin to tax the air. This for us is that I live in Bulgaria and the other in Russia - for the corporate oligarchy, all the working units for cutting the dough. Multinational evil does not know about borders and powers.
  29. -3
    3 October 2018 21: 39
    cheap gasoline good
    in the meantime:
    https://m-kalashnikov.livejournal.com/3639373.html
  30. kig
    +1
    4 October 2018 01: 47
    What is needed is not cheap gasoline, but the ability to buy it and not go broke.
  31. +1
    4 October 2018 01: 47
    Recently, there is an opinion that in the light of "theoretically" Putin's last term, United Russia is coming off in full. so you think, maybe a referendum and new elections to the Duma
  32. +5
    4 October 2018 05: 20
    A new anecdote of the country - "During the reign of Putin, cheap gasoline appeared ... Before I had time to rejoice, the alarm clock rang, the dream ended, I have to get up ..." laughing lol wassat
    Don’t be naive, guys ... Or have you still not understood anything?
    Putin's cannibalistic pension "reform", an increase in VAT, a baseboard standard of living of the people - these are the "best" achievements of the current government under the wise leadership of the GDP ...
    The concepts: "Putin's bourgeois clique" and "Cheap gasoline in Russia" - INCOMPATIBLE.

    1. -3
      4 October 2018 12: 58
      In the baseboard life of the people - the people themselves are to blame, each creator of his own happiness - go for it.
  33. -1
    5 October 2018 09: 06
    Russia needs, but the government does not need.
    Power will win.
  34. +2
    6 October 2018 10: 41
    In short, this is the case.
    In the middle of the 90's there were about 10000 mini refineries in the country.
    Which in total gave the country about 30% of fuel (gasoline, diesel fuel, and fuel oil).
    The remaining 70% were divided between the four of our giants.
    Then came the GDP.
    And he began to pile around his homies around him.
    Is Timchenko a famous surname?
    In one year (ONE year) from scratch, he became the BIGGEST oil trader in the world!
    Who was the oil taken from?
    At mini refineries, which, by the way, were covered with "faces".
    What, again, did not like GDP. Because a rich "face" is lazy and willful.
    For five years, the number of mini refineries has decreased by 10 times.
    Then at five.
    And the process is going on.
    Cheap oil is not a synonym in our country - cheap gasoline.
    The cost of fuel includes more than 40% of taxes.
    Those. buying gasoline for 40 rubles a liter, we invest more than 12 rubles in the "money box" of the state.
    And these are pensions, salaries of state employees, allowances, state programs, etc.
    Lower fuel costs will only reduce tax collection.
    There are no other items of income that give us so generously money except alcohol.
    Diamonds gold, platinum, etc. the population in such numbers does not consume.
    Without state regulation of prices, EVERYONE will not succeed in changing the price of gasoline.
    And this is a return to socialism. Those. lack of any hope.

    By type of activity, I am close to fuel, and to transport, and to what is interfaced with this.
    It always seems to me that the price we have has not reached the level that the people "howl".
    Why do I think so?
    Car dealerships are constantly increasing the number of cars sold.
    The cost of cars is growing.
    It’s not that drive through the streets;
    And the most interesting observation.
    In cars, standing in traffic jams, one or two people are sitting.
    Rarely three or four.
    A man goes "to the bakery" for bread.
    And here you are talking about the fact that gasoline is expensive.
    Gasoline is only 17% of all fuel consumed.
    Let the gas be 100-150 rubles. You look and the air becomes cleaner.
    But DT is really the blood of the economy.
    Here it is necessary to do it 15-20 rubles.
    And then production will not suffer, but on the contrary, and taxation will not fall.
    1. 0
      6 October 2018 18: 09
      Quote: demo

      But DT is really the blood of the economy.
      Here it is necessary to do it 15-20 rubles.
      And then production will not suffer, but on the contrary, and taxation will not fall.

      Well, all the cars will go to the solarium. Maybe in Russia passenger diesel engines are not very common, but in our past diesel engines such as these used to be brought so many from Europe that now almost half of them are on the roads. The villagers are so simple everything is just on diesels and drive.
      You wrote that the air will become cleaner, and so - at a cost of diesel fuel 15-20 rubles. will not, just the opposite. On the road, you can immediately hear when the diesel ahead of you is driving by smell, even if it doesn’t go off like the old KamAZ, which is more and more common.
      For the rest, I completely agree with you.
    2. +1
      6 October 2018 18: 18
      Quote: demo
      In short, this is the case.
      In the middle of the 90's there were about 10000 mini refineries in the country.
      Which in total gave the country about 30% of fuel (gasoline, diesel fuel, and fuel oil).

      Another question; What do you mean by mini refineries? Home-made clandestine oil refineries (in common people - moonshines), of which there were many at one time, for example, in Chechnya? Or something else?
      1. +1
        6 October 2018 18: 25
        I have been to several dozen refineries (about 30). Processing capacity from 3 tons per day to 100.
        This is a mini refinery. There was some kind of automation. But all production processes lay with the technologist.
        Product quality - shitty.
        We promoted ideas and our developments.
        Someone liked and implemented. But someone didn’t have enough to master the three steps of the mind.
        But their products left without a trace.
        1. 0
          6 October 2018 18: 51
          These were state enterprises, buildings dating back to Soviet times? Or already new private plants?
          1. 0
            6 October 2018 19: 24
            Private.
            Under the Union, this simply could not be.
            1. 0
              6 October 2018 19: 31
              As I understand it, that is, these are moonshine stills. Self-made installations for stripping light fraction from oil, everything else is waste, at best, fuel oil. Technologically, such installations are located in the XNUMXth century. I hope there are no such "factories" in Russia already?
  35. +2
    6 October 2018 10: 45
    The nuances of the Russian language.
    "No need to persuade me" means "No."
    "You don't have to persuade me" - "With both hands for!"
  36. 0
    6 October 2018 17: 30
    Switch to gas. Even in the Soviet years, there were not a few options for saving fuel, and now, in general, what kind of ideas can be found even just on the Internet.
    1. 0
      7 October 2018 09: 57
      And who will determine gas prices?
      1. 0
        7 October 2018 20: 41
        And who defines them now? Gas in any case is cheaper than gasoline and diesel fuel. And besides, it is an ecologically cleaner fuel.
  37. +1
    7 October 2018 10: 14
    I do not think that gasoline will become cheaper. Recently I listened to the arguments of a very rich man. "I would build a couple of refineries. After that, the fuel will become cheaper, and I will practically have a small profit." He also stressed that there is even nothing to enter the European market, due to the huge competition. The fact is that in Europe they produce not only combustible materials, but also other products at refineries that we have to import. The presence of competition always has a positive result, when it comes to It’s not about super profits. The degree of competition among artists is such that soon there will be one artist for each inhabitant. And nothing. They live. And many of them even built expensive expensive houses, and even abroad.
  38. 0
    8 October 2018 19: 17
    no need to oblige anyone to sell benz. on the cheap, you just need to nationalize the entire oil industry, but this is not in this anti-popular regime, but when it falls.
  39. 0
    9 October 2018 10: 04
    If in Russia there will be cheap gasoline (as in other energy carriers), then Russia will have competitive advantages over the West in any production or service sector.
    Do you think the Kremlin oligarchs do not understand this? They all understand, but their homes / accounts / children / mistresses are in the west.
    Therefore, there will be no cheap gasoline in Russia. As, in other matters, and other energy carriers.
    So, we vote further for EdRossnyu and other Kremlin officials