The end of the world in Lithuania. Blame Russians?

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In a single state of Lithuania, the end of the world has come. No, not economic, not political, but the very end of the world. The element that collapsed on the Baltic States 26 September instantly extinguished the light for at least 60 thousands of Lithuanian citizens for a long time. In addition to the natural question, what kind of reptile extinguished the light bulb, more sophisticated comrades had more complicated and deep claims to the Lithuanian power system, as well as directly to the leadership of this amazing country.





Lithuania began its solemn march to the current situation right after gaining “independence”, and in this regard, problems with the electric power industry are only the links of consequences in one circuit. Having left the “prison of nations”, the Baltic Limitrop began to carefully eliminate its own industry, the most energy-intensive area. Partly due to the inability to function without a regular resource drain from Moscow, but mainly because of the desire of the West to finish off the Soviet legacy, which in the long term can compete, replenish pockets, and knock the electoral base from under the feet of the industrialists of the Soviet school. Unemployed proletariat of closed factories rushed to look for earnings to feed their families. To pile alternative political movements to people was too busy.

Moreover, all this panopticon was served under the sauce of the now fashionable struggle for ecology. They say that these "soviet" production only poisoned the climate of the independent Lithuania, and now the released citizens will be able to breathe pure European air while they give it. As a result, this music seems to have become eternal. And most importantly, for this, according to modern trends, it does not even require any research. Just need to gather a crowd of bored students, but at least from the law faculty, decorate them in the style of hippies, children of flowers, and empty them with posters around the necessary object.


One of the abandoned electrical appliance plants occupying an entire block in Vilnius

The Lithuanian authorities even managed to play the ecological chip in the field of unemployment problems. When the population, which came to a little after the 90's neuralgic ecstasy, asked the population where it would work now, they explained to him that the acquired ecological paradise would certainly entice crowds of tourists. Imagine that some Charles or Jacques for a wedding anniversary will please you with a trip to Klaipeda or Šiauliai, it is possible only in feverish delirium. However, for some time this bike warmed some Lithuanian residents, and sometimes it was the only thing that warmed them.

The flow of tourists from Russia, essentially the main one, continues to fall. First, nobody wants to get an avalanche of insults and contemptuous snorting from the former subsidized appendicitis for their own blood. Secondly, in the number of medieval walls and moss-covered cobblestones, Vilnius is much inferior to Tallinn and Riga. Third, people traveling to the Baltics nostalgic about the past are gradually leaving, and the young generation of the post-Soviet syndrome does not. Old ruins, narrow streets and bars will not surprise them.


One of the once main cinemas of Lithuania

True, you can develop urban tourism. After all, in addition to the mutilated skeletons of the former factories and factories, the number of abandoned cultural objects in Lithuania is also actively growing, on the ruins of which merchant centers are built at best. Stadiums and cinemas lively replenish the lists of architectural corpses. Slow decomposition somehow affected all material.


Stadium Zalgiris. Now almost dismantled

Therefore, the amount of electricity consumed was steadily falling. After all, to call the three and a half of the kabak, albeit antique-style, with dust-covered confused in the corner, an energy-consuming enterprise is impossible from the word "absolutely." Naturally, the quality of service of power systems also began to fall, but the cost to grow.

Ignalina Nuclear Power Plant, which for geological reasons and the evil twist of fate, was built by the Soviet Union on the Lithuanian shore of Drisvyaty Lake, although it was originally planned to put the station on the Belarusian shore of the lake, became the next buggy of “free” Lithuania. If the nuclear power plant worked now, it would cover all the needs of Lithuania in cheap electricity. But when the Baltic countries, flooding each other on the run, rushed into the EU, the latter put forward a condition for Lithuania: to shut the Soviet nuclear power plant to hell with no questions asked. Since 2001, the process of liquidation of nuclear power plants has begun, served up with the sauce of Chernobyl horror stories, the high cost of Ignalina electricity, the cost of which for the end user was shaped by intermediaries and the need to urgently buy clean European energy, not “shovel” and “dirty”.


Nuclear power plants are sawn into metal

So that the adequate workers of the nuclear power plant do not interfere under their feet, exposing the Russophobic nonsense of the authorities, they began to survive from the station. For example, director Viktor Shevaldin, who has worked at the Ignalina NPP for nearly 20 years, was removed from his post. His place was taken by the ethnically “pure” and politically “literate” Osvaldas Chukshis. After Chukshisa, the managerial positions of the closing desk were occupied exclusively by the enlightened “Europeans”. Well, it is generally a new tradition - to put a populist parrot, even if from a professional point of view it is at the level of drywall.

After the successful, if it can be said at all, cutting of the Ignalina NPP, the Lithuanian authorities have the last thread connecting their power system with an adequate side of reality - this is the BRELL electric ring (Belarus, Russia, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania). That's just, in fact, cut off the country from electricity is difficult under any pretext. After all, when even the earnest patriots of “free” Lithuania in refrigerators freeze fish begin to disintegrate into atoms, and chickens come out of chicken eggs, it will be impossible to explain to them the sanctity of fighting the “bloody Mordor”.



It was here that the “landmark” plan appeared under the tacit code name “Forgiving, unwashed Russia”. The Lithuanian authorities gave birth to a project of energy independence, the construction of a new energy system and its integration into Europe. Under this pathetic tinsel hid ... two bows between the power grid. The bow with Sweden received the name NordBalt, and the bow with Poland - LitPol Link. But there was no money for all this. Therefore, adopting the usual position with an outstretched hand, Lithuanian politicians went to beg for money in Europe.

However, in the EU, such an approach did not arouse enthusiasm. Europe, of course, appreciated the noble goal of continuing to break any relations with Russia, even contrary to common sense, but for some reason did not want to pay this time either. But still it was possible to get things off the dead center. And in 2013, the “construction of the century”, consisting in the transfer of underwater power cable, together with Sweden began. But only in 2016, the first current was given, but in test mode. At about the same time, the first electricity flowed over land power lines from Poland. In total, these epochal construction projects, dictated by politics, and by no means necessary, sucked a little less than a billion euros!

It seems to be a holiday in Lithuanian street. Now “Mordor” will shudder from the inflexible will of Vilnius when Kaliningrad gets into the ring of “friends” who have disconnected it from the power grids connected with continental Russia. It would have been for the Nazis from the Seimas to take care of their ego, but what a bad luck.

First, while Lithuania was playing politics and toiling from all the Freudian complexes combined, Moscow invested in the power industry of the Kaliningrad region. Only at the beginning of this year, the Mayakovskaya and Talakhovskaya TPPs were commissioned, and at the completion stage two more stations - Pregolskaya and Primorskaya. Taking into account these facts, as well as the presence of old stations and three small hydroelectric power stations, the Kaliningrad region will not only be independent of the "hotelok" of the Baltic borderland and those cockroaches that are worn in their skull boxes, but will also begin to produce a certain reserve. Prospects for electricity trading are also discussed.


"Something is a bit dark in the future ... Probably, the Russians have darkened!"

Secondly, to the surprise of Dali Grybauskaite and the company, the power system turned out to be somewhat more complicated than the wire and a twisted light bulb thrown through the fence. Problems both with the sea lintel itself (it is twice as powerful as the Polish one) and with the entire energy system began almost immediately. The Lithuanian power system itself and its infrastructure was designed for the flow of electricity from the east, and being in a neglected form, it naturally began to fail.

But malfunctions with NordBalt were a complete surprise. The number of failures, it would seem, of the European quality of the system, has reached such a level that even ethnically “correct” and politically “his” director of the transmission network of the Litgrid operator Vidmantas Grushas was forced to make a statement: “These faults that occurred were somewhat unexpected, and caused a lot of questions about the quality of the product, whether the link will last for the entire scheduled period (30 – 40 years). When the faults recurred, negotiations began with the contractor on how this problem would be fixed. ” The funny thing is that the “soviet” BRELL ring, tested for decades, did not give such failures.

And at the same time, Lithuania realized that in such a situation it was already impossible to blackmail Russia by disconnecting from BRELL. It turned out that, tired of the Nazi speeches of Vilnius, Moscow itself could turn off Lithuania from BRELL. Pereobuvshis in the air, Lithuania has delayed another song, which is already familiar to us: “And for us, it's scho”. And this is all against the background of sluggish rise in the cost of electricity. So the storm was only a kind of spotlight, highlighting mostly the political problems of Vilnius, which seemed to outplay itself in flirting with patting the eastern bear on the back.

But the "occupation" they still can not wait. I hope Russia does not give out such gifts anymore ...
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  1. +13
    1 October 2018 05: 35
    And all this against the background of a sluggish rise in price of electricity.

    And against the background of the construction of the Ostrovets NPP in Belarus.
    1. +21
      1 October 2018 12: 06
      But the "occupation" they still can not wait. I hope Russia does not give out such gifts anymore ...
      Yes, it would be very good to do without these parasites.
      1. 0
        1 October 2018 14: 16
        Quote: Wend
        But the "occupation" they still can not wait. I hope Russia does not give out such gifts anymore ...
        Yes, it would be very good to do without these parasites.

        Unfortunately, geography does not allow us to realize your desires!
        1. +9
          1 October 2018 15: 59
          Quote: neri73-r
          Quote: Wend
          But the "occupation" they still can not wait. I hope Russia does not give out such gifts anymore ...
          Yes, it would be very good to do without these parasites.

          Unfortunately, geography does not allow us to realize your desires!

          Maybe you wanted to tell a story. Geography allows.
          1. +3
            2 October 2018 00: 06
            Maybe you wanted to tell a story. Geography allows.


            No, geography - ports, Kaliningrad region, security buffer, etc., and, of course, history!
            1. 0
              2 October 2018 08: 09
              Previously, kings were crowned there. You're right
      2. +7
        1 October 2018 19: 44
        Quote: Wend
        Yes, it would be very good to do without these parasites.

        Hi Anatoly.
        The EU has successfully made a three-finger construction in the Baltic states:

        And Latvia immediately "fell in love" with Russia:

        Well, of course we are for peace and forgave them all the dirty tricks, we are such ....
        1. +4
          2 October 2018 11: 24
          Quote: Lelek
          Quote: Wend
          Yes, it would be very good to do without these parasites.

          Hi Anatoly.
          The EU has successfully made a three-finger construction in the Baltic states:

          And Latvia immediately "fell in love" with Russia:

          Well, of course we are for peace and forgave them all the dirty tricks, we are such ....

          Greetings Leo! The Balts and other republics of the former USSR are used to being fed in those days. Snickering. They thought they would be fed in the EU. But I hope that Russia still will not take them to balance. Let Russia develop its regions better. what feeds parasites who at the same time also hate Russia. What is the name of the one who bites the hand of the giver?
          1. +3
            2 October 2018 13: 41
            Quote: Wend
            Let Russia develop its regions better. what feeds parasites

            I will open your eyes to the fact that the Russian Federation is a well-organized CAPITALISTIC DEMOCRACY. In it, in democracy, there are owners who have hired effective managers who are vigilantly watching for the interests of the ruling class — the bourgeoisie. And what is better for Russia to develop there - they will somehow decide without us. We should live out the term of survival in the former home country until we have stipulated in the pension law limitations on the term of survival. They came up with unscrupulous retirees to live out how much it would turn out. It is necessary to introduce a limit, establish a plan for the term of survival ... to save the funds of the FIU.
            1. 0
              2 October 2018 14: 06
              Quote: 97110
              Quote: Wend
              Let Russia develop its regions better. what feeds parasites

              I will open your eyes to the fact that the Russian Federation is a well-organized CAPITALISTIC DEMOCRACY.
              Thank you, but I don't need such "gifts from well-wishers".
              Quote: 97110
              In it, in democracy, there are owners who have hired effective managers who are vigilantly watching for the interests of the ruling class — the bourgeoisie. And what is better for Russia to develop there - they will somehow decide without us. We should live out the term of survival in the former home country until we have stipulated in the pension law limitations on the term of survival. They came up with unscrupulous retirees to live out how much it would turn out. It is necessary to introduce a limit, establish a plan for the term of survival ... to save the funds of the FIU.

              What does it have to do with it? Talk about something else.
              1. +1
                3 October 2018 16: 52
                Let the man flow by gavnets ...
      3. +1
        3 October 2018 16: 51
        There remains one option that does not depend on us - they can declare war on us, cross the border a couple of steps and immediately surrender ...
        1. 0
          5 October 2018 10: 07
          Quote: free_flier
          There remains one option that does not depend on us - they can declare war on us, cross the border a couple of steps and immediately surrender ...

          Yes it will be a real zapadlo laughing
  2. +8
    1 October 2018 05: 37
    Here was a good reason to disconnect them from electricity ... Like blown away by the wind ...
    1. 0
      2 October 2018 12: 15
      With the wind, nothing is an option wassat
  3. +5
    1 October 2018 06: 36
    But, "freedom" and "independence" ... From the beginning at the "dawn" - we feed everyone, with the acquisition, previously indicated, "we ourselves are not local" ... And they do not learn from other people's mistakes ...
    1. +1
      1 October 2018 10: 02
      Who is "independence"?
      If only in 90 they began to proudly announce that “40% of Lithuanians have already become in Vilnius.
      1. +2
        2 October 2018 10: 26
        This is still 40%. After a couple of decades, the percentage will drop to 20. They die out, faster than us. Explicitly the effect of life-giving European air, electricity and tolerance. What they wanted, they got it.
  4. +6
    1 October 2018 06: 45
    Class! And will gasoline become cheaper from this? Or housing and communal services tariffs to decrease? Or the age of exit? You can of course gloat, but you don’t feel like even. They have a lot of problems.
    1. +1
      1 October 2018 07: 08
      Experts, plan to increase gas prices by spring. Things are good!!!
      1. 0
        2 October 2018 08: 14
        I’ll tell you, if not a non-expert, that prices will rise by spring. First you buy analgin, and then go to the doctor?
    2. +7
      1 October 2018 07: 46
      And where does the local problem? They are, everyone knows them. In the article, the conversation is about "a cow dead at a neighbor's" and readers like this statement of the question laughing
      1. +6
        1 October 2018 08: 52
        Quote: Wilderness
        the article talks about "a cow dead at a neighbor's" and readers like this question

        A trifle, but nice
      2. +11
        1 October 2018 09: 50
        Quote: Wilderness
        The article talks about "a cow dead from a neighbor"

        The article deals with the attempt of a NATO country to become independent of the supply of electricity from the generation of a potential adversary. It is expensive. There is no mind of their own, the Ingalinskaya nuclear power plant was closed, without bargaining for anything in return from the Soyuznechki and without considering the economic effect of "freedom". That's the bottom line.
        But the main thing is different. You will not be fed up with political statements. Nobody needs their dairy products in the EEC, and they have already fought with Russia, having lost the traditional market for their products. So the former Komsomol member of Dahl remained with a broken trough.
        I liked the message about "re-occupation" of this limitrophe. Well, on the principles of confederation, I would accept Lithuania into the new Union. After all, the territory, after all! This would solve the issue of the corridor: Cal. region-Lithuania-Belarus-Russia.
        1. +12
          1 October 2018 10: 16
          Broken trough left simple people who believed their politicians! By the way, like ours.
        2. 0
          1 October 2018 14: 02
          Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
          Ingalinsk NPP was shut down without bargaining in return

          The closure of the INPP was a condition for joining the EU. So there could be no trade here.
        3. +15
          1 October 2018 14: 22
          I agree to endure the Baltic states in a single state only if the first article of their constitution states that the Russians are a state-forming nation. All these dances around the national minorities were tired of me back in the USSR.
        4. +4
          1 October 2018 14: 59
          Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
          So the former Komsomol member of Dahl remained with a broken trough.

          Komsomol member? Take higher - a teacher at the Vilnius Higher Party School, and later - a teacher at the Moscow Academy of Social Sciences under the Central Committee of the CPSU (higher party educational institution of the USSR, now the Russian Academy of Public Administration).
          With such a biography, she had a direct road to the anti-Soviet. smile
      3. +4
        1 October 2018 11: 39
        So the neighbor himself specially killed this cow. this is the joke.
      4. +2
        2 October 2018 12: 30
        Or maybe we’ll talk about problems in our home? I don’t give a damn about such neighbors, but my house and how the children will be are very worried. And stop stopping us from distracting us with stories, how they feel bad there, it makes me purple.
        But homework on the topic of electric:
        In Russia, they can introduce a social energy consumption rate for the population, the Kommersant newspaper writes.
        According to the publication, the government returned to the discussion of the relevant bill, which was frozen in 2014 year.
        It is noted that the idea of ​​the Ministry of Energy and the Ministry of Economy on the introduction of social norms was approved by Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Kozak. Departments must submit draft regulatory documents by January 15 of January 2019.

        https://russian.rt.com/russia/news/559979-vozmozhnye-ogranicheniya-na-energopotreblenie?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop
        I must say right away that this publication is clearly not a national one. But the truth from this will not be untrue.
        Such are the things, fellow citizens.
    3. +4
      1 October 2018 10: 54
      . Class! And will gasoline become cheaper from this? Or housing and communal services tariffs to decrease? Or the age of exit? You can of course gloat, but you don’t feel like even. They have a lot of problems.

      Apparently some people consider it their duty to stick phrases about gasoline and utilities in Russia in any article. They forgot about the pension. Now each article should begin with the words "everything is gone" with a listing of all the troubles of Russia and its corrupt oligarch officials. Further, the authors can write something else about the good, but this is not necessary.
      But no, about penny. age is also not forgotten. I read it inattentively
      1. -1
        1 October 2018 11: 07
        Quote: igorbrsv
        Now every article should start with the words "everything is gone"

        Yes, not everything is lost, but giggling over sprats when in KO is not nearly better at least stupid
        1. +4
          1 October 2018 11: 16
          For this, this is a vivid example of the fact that there are problems not only with us and should not be discouraged. On offended, as they say carry water
          1. +1
            1 October 2018 11: 39
            before me violet on the problems of sprats

            Quote: igorbrsv
            don't despair

            answer the direct question, do you know what it is to live at 180 volts when EVERYTHING depends on electricity from water to heating ?!
            1. +1
              1 October 2018 15: 34
              Theoretically, yes. Replacement of transformer substation or cables is required. In some villages, the newly formed, we are developing themselves. True, this is not a reason to follow. Do you have electric heating? Is it possible to connect gas? Water as far as I understand the artesian well? If I critically advise you to install stabilizers on some devices. First of all, pumps and a refrigerator. Issue price: stabilizer five kW-5000r.
              1. +2
                1 October 2018 16: 11
                Quote: igorbrsv
                In some villages, the newly formed, we are developing themselves.

                I found another way - a letter to the president
                Quote: igorbrsv
                Do you have electric heating?

                solid fuel
                Quote: igorbrsv
                Is it possible to connect gas?

                no
                Quote: igorbrsv
                If I critically advise you to install stabilizers on some devices.

                it was the first two years, but the question arises why the consumer should pay for the service twice
                Quote: igorbrsv
                Issue price: five kW stabilizer - 5000r.

                this is a limited amount of equipment; besides, with 110 volts special stabilizers are needed and the price of the issue increases 4 times
                1. +2
                  2 October 2018 09: 25
                  A letter to the president is also a good option. But he is not the governor. He cannot deal with all issues at once. Ask how much he sleeps in his seventy plus or minus
                2. -1
                  2 October 2018 10: 15
                  As an option, I propose to move to the "continental" part of Russia. I offer you an option regarding free accommodation
                  1. +3
                    2 October 2018 10: 57
                    Quote: igorbrsv
                    0
                    As an option, I propose to move to the "continental" part of Russia.
                    all ?!
                    return the area to the Germans?
                    1. +1
                      2 October 2018 11: 27
                      No. I can’t help all Germans wassat and you . but I’ll place ten people. Not a joke.
                      1. +1
                        2 October 2018 11: 32
                        Oh you. I did not immediately think, no, we leave the parish, it’s good to leave it already
                3. 0
                  5 October 2018 14: 12
                  Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                  this is a limited amount of equipment in addition with 110 volts

                  On Avito in the section of audio accessories. Take to Japanese audio equipment.
              2. 0
                2 October 2018 12: 32
                Issue price: five kW stabilizer - 5000r. And how long will this work?
                1. 0
                  2 October 2018 13: 03
                  Yes, for five it will work. I don’t advise garbage.
                  1. +1
                    2 October 2018 13: 58
                    Quote: igorbrsv
                    Yes, for five it will work. I don’t advise garbage.

                    not a fact
                    the question is what voltage drop
              3. +2
                3 October 2018 09: 28
                Did you mistake the flag for an hour? Where do you live?
                Not a single stabilizer can pull 150 volts AC to 220. An artesian well is illegal, because it is subsoil and the state controls them. You may be fined. Gas to the house? A poor population must collect under a million. Project, etc. Next, connecting to the main, pressure reducing station, pipe to the house.
                Leningrad region. Village. Northern region, the temperature in winter can drop to -25C. Firewood is expensive, coal, too. People put electric boilers for heating. Clean and cheap. With the adoption of a new government proposal on the social norm of 300 kW for a house, the topic of an electric boiler will have to be removed. Means wood stoves. Thanks to the Duma, even the fallen tree allowed to collect from 2019. And there, and not far from the horse, gasoline will rise in price. Let's go to the 18th century?
              4. 0
                5 October 2018 12: 52
                It begs for a long time to change the parameters of transmission networks, especially in the field of increasing the operating frequency, up to about 400 Hz. The elemental base and technology have long matured. Need government policy.
            2. A.
              0
              2 October 2018 23: 02
              Let them switch to democratic 127 volts, as in the states, with Mr.
              Why haven’t you switched yet, a mess.
          2. +6
            1 October 2018 14: 26
            Most of eastern Europe, not only the Baltic states, has problems, but Hungary, Montenegro and Bulgaria have no less acute problems, not to mention Ukraine.

            This is because no one for some reason did not want to understand before that for Western Europe they are just vassals. which will be sacrificed as necessary. And those who understood monetized their loyalty without looking at their conscience.
        2. 0
          2 October 2018 12: 20
          Incidentally, I did not put you not only a single minus, but also a plus to support the conversation
      2. -7
        1 October 2018 21: 26
        But not one mentioned the idiots on the repaired and not very Russian roads. laughing As I watch the video from the registrars, so all the desire to go to you, to Russia, to visit by personal transport disappears. Only by train and tram - metro! lol
        1. 0
          2 October 2018 00: 24
          How long are your roads?
          1. 0
            20 October 2018 20: 19
            I'm not talking about roads, but about those who bought the rights!
        2. +4
          2 October 2018 08: 21
          Apparently you are afraid to envy our roads. In some places there is a reason lately. And in our metro and tram you have never traveled apparently. Everything is decent there, but such a crush. When we upload videos, this is to draw attention to the problem. And estimate them consider. And for what purpose does your registrar work?
          1. 0
            2 October 2018 11: 20
            Quote: igorbrsv
            Everything is decent there, but such a crush.

            And what is decent, if the crush?
            1. +1
              2 October 2018 12: 25
              Yes, you certainly were not there. It’s just beautiful there. Take the shawarma, spit on everyone and look up. Museums will relax
              1. -3
                2 October 2018 13: 29
                Quote: igorbrsv
                Yes, you certainly were not there. It’s just beautiful there.

                I was there in 70, 80, 90, 00 ... So. If in 70-80 you can still see something there while the engine is waiting, then in the following years you only see how to get into the car. Last time I was driving, there wasn’t even enough space to sit down.
          2. 0
            20 October 2018 20: 26
            I’m not afraid, just sometimes I envy your new tracks, in two or more lanes in one direction. Mine is for covering my ass! Without grouting numbers and people in the frame, you can get into trouble.
            From time to time I watch videos from registrars for self-discipline.
        3. +4
          2 October 2018 10: 53
          Watch the video from European or American registrars, you don’t want to go anywhere at all! laughing
          1. 0
            2 October 2018 13: 46
            You do it right away angry Then it is clear
          2. 0
            20 October 2018 20: 32
            Especially with the American. I traveled to Europe, the problems are only with the morning and evening flow, and that is not always the case. They sleep at the wheel, or have not yet woken up, or at work are tired excessively.
      3. 0
        3 October 2018 03: 53
        Yes, it’s better to talk about how Ukrainians have a bad whisker - well, not like we have a wizard in our chakolada!
    4. +3
      2 October 2018 10: 28
      It is possible and necessary. They are enemies. And about the prices ..... remember what kind of social system we live in and no longer ask stupid questions about social policy, prices and atrocities of officials and oligarchs. Under capitalism, there is no other way !!!!!!
      1. +1
        3 October 2018 03: 56
        Yes, this is what true enemies are, and not some worthless Gribyskyta!
    5. 0
      4 October 2018 12: 47
      And what is wrong with the tariffs again? I pay no more than 3 thousand in the Urals for a three-room apartment per month
  5. +11
    1 October 2018 06: 49
    We have tested the exit from BRELL well. This Germany can afford performances with alternative energy, and European settlements "clean" European energy will drive into wild debts and finally strangle the industry. But, as they say, you can't be cute by force, if you decide to freeze your ears to spite us, then it's stupid to dissuade them from this. Flag in hand, drum on neck ... and so on.
    1. +3
      1 October 2018 06: 55
      Quote: g1washntwn
      and so on.

      Do they have something to lose? Do they have industry?
      1. +1
        2 October 2018 11: 02
        So, after all, there will be no electricity, how will they spite anger at us? Internet also grunts !!!!
  6. +12
    1 October 2018 06: 51
    When we bought the territory, we had to squeeze the Aborigines into (historical places of residence)! We wanted to make them happy, and happiness for them to be pid - and! Well, pid ---- s, as you know, do not give offspring and disappear .... I hope at least they won’t blame us.
  7. -9
    1 October 2018 07: 05
    we would have to deal with our energy supply, and after that we will giggle over sprats
    1. +10
      1 October 2018 07: 32
      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
      we would have to deal with our energy supply, and after that we will giggle over sprats

      Those. laugh is the right of the elect and only us?
      1. 0
        1 October 2018 08: 09
        Rao UES of Russia sells electricity to China at 1.70 per kilowatt. Take a look at the amount you pay. Well, now you can laugh.
        1. +3
          1 October 2018 11: 00
          The final buyer, even in China, will pay no less than in Russia. Rupee seventy norms price. Given that the price is also formed from the content of the network, but here only the supply
          1. +1
            1 October 2018 11: 18
            Quote: igorbrsv
            The final buyer, even in China, will pay no less than in Russia.

            To be honest, it’s violet how much the Chinese pay, I don’t understand why I pay for air
            1. -2
              2 October 2018 11: 57
              So don’t pay.
              We have a free country.
              1. +1
                2 October 2018 12: 29
                Yes, by the way, this option will also work. True, I have to pay
              2. +2
                2 October 2018 12: 33
                think smart joke?
                are mistaken
                in order not to pay, I need to prove in court that the services were not rendered or rendered in an inadequate amount, for this I will spend money by orders of magnitude more than I can
        2. -1
          3 October 2018 17: 03
          You will buy the same volume as China, and you will be sold seventy rubles.
        3. 0
          4 October 2018 12: 48
          1,70 is it in rubles or bucks?
      2. +3
        1 October 2018 08: 54
        Quote: Lara Croft
        Those. laugh is the right of the elect and only us?
        when you have 110-180 volts in your house
        You are aware that in the Kaliningrad region in rural areas PT are calculated from the calculation of 4 kW per household
        1. +8
          1 October 2018 09: 20
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          You are aware that in the Kaliningrad region in rural areas PT are calculated from the calculation of 4 kW per household

          The fact of the matter is that it is necessary to solve the problem of own production of electricity. What is being done.
          Are there any other solutions? The problem is defined long ago. to build something in one day is not realistic.
          Nobody is against the fact that there are enough problems. In any region. But in fact, even if not quickly, "there is no money, but we are holding on", but the work is going on. And it will be done.
          1. +2
            1 October 2018 10: 12
            Quote: domokl
            but the work is on. And it will be done.

            she doesn’t go quietly, the dough is being cut, no one thinks the necessary capacities, we first built a thermal power plant 2 shouted that now the whole region was completely self-sustaining and almost broke through the power ceiling in the very first winter, now we are building the stations and probably again without calculating the power consumption
            in order for PT to put 10 houses at least somehow corresponding to the load, it took 2,5 years and an appeal to the president’s reception
            after the design work began for the installation of the PT, the estimated timelines for the development of the project were indicated in one and a half years
            tk that this mantra about "will be done" leave us with huge systemic problems and I'm afraid that they cannot be solved without the new 38 year
            1. +4
              1 October 2018 13: 40
              extremely funny
              I would like to hear for what a minus, probably the "specialist" who proved to me that the construction and project of the PT for a village of 10 houses in time takes as much as the construction of the Dnieper

              have the courage to name yourself and explain the minus? smile
              1. +2
                1 October 2018 21: 33
                Minushers probably tried on themselves: " and I’m afraid that without a new 38 years they can’t be solved". laughing
              2. 0
                2 October 2018 09: 32
                I don’t put cons if the comment frankly does not contradict my principles and beliefs. And then I try to justify. Ignore the cons. A normal person will understand you. Your opinion will not go unnoticed
                1. -1
                  2 October 2018 11: 58
                  Normal - is that wherever you can howl "everything is gone"?
                  You see how ... and I thought normal - who works, builds.
          2. +9
            1 October 2018 10: 16
            Quote: domokl
            Are there any options for another solution?

            Yes
            full nationalization of strategic industries
            Well, theft in state corporations is the only way to fight
            1. +1
              1 October 2018 11: 24
              Here I agree. But here you need to break into power, surround yourself not only with like-minded people, but also with intelligent managers. And for this it is necessary, at least, to declare martial law in the country. When power is dispersed, no one will let themselves be removed. Even the same "people's artist" in the State Duma
            2. -1
              2 October 2018 11: 59
              Who will decide then who to put against the wall?
              Your friends?
            3. 0
              3 October 2018 17: 06
              Dumb and Dumber...
              With such a shot, the guarantee that there will be two corpses (the second from the rebound) is increased to 70%
          3. 0
            1 October 2018 12: 42
            [quote] [/ quThe fact of the matter is that you need to solve the problem of your own production ote] ... And who will solve it? Putin and Medvedev? Do they need this?
            1. +6
              1 October 2018 13: 54
              Yes, they decide it, they decide. It’s just not so - op, and all at once in chocolate. You understand, for example, that after the 90s all over the country it is necessary to shift for example all the infrastructure - the resource of the EC. Now imagine the volumes only for wiring in the panels of houses only in Moscow - here 25 million live in the agglomeration, a fifth of the country!
              Consider the work to ensure the Crimea - they are emergency, there was an emergency mode. Do you need money for this? And how.
              The Far North is also without an option, without energy, it immediately crashes, and there, apart from prevention, they just built a floating nuclear power plant.
              And you all call it "do nothing"? From what? From the fact that the light was shitty for your uncle in the village? Sorry, uncle, they didn't start with you ...
              1. +2
                1 October 2018 14: 33
                the problem is not that they do not solve electrification, but that they do it in one place - from Medvedev bulbs to stupid projects of expensive thermal stations, whose energy is more expensive than the whole gold station.

                Have you ever wondered what percentage of boilers in the country now has obsolete efficiency? And how many stations, instead of converting to work on peat, bring imported fuel on the 3rd road. And the state of the networks?
              2. +2
                1 October 2018 16: 02
                Quote: Jerk
                Now imagine the volumes only for wiring in the panels of houses only in Moscow - here 25 million live in agglomeration, a fifth of the country!

                explain about wiring replacement
                1. +1
                  2 October 2018 05: 54
                  The network load has grown by an order of magnitude, plus the wiring is stupidly old - the insulation has already crumbled. In the beginning of the XNUMXs, the epidemic was simply in short-circuit in shields - and this is a fire in the house. All of it must be changed, otherwise Moscow will flare up, as under Napoleon. Replaced already most.
                  And this is just the tip of the iceberg - there are still panel rooms in the houses, the same problems, there are substations - the same thing, the street lighting has changed a lot - also an electrician, building one shopping and entertainment center - the object eats like a good stadium, he needs to build his substation , and how many are there in Moscow? Now imagine that this center is in the center of the city, where houses are already standing on each other, such as the Kuznetsk Bridge - what to do with its energy supply ?!
                  Here affairs in Moscow alone dofiga. And everything needs to be done, even for the payback of the same World Cup
                  1. +1
                    2 October 2018 07: 52
                    so what's the problem?
                    not go to the resorts but change
                    Quote: Jerk
                    , the construction of one shopping and entertainment center - the object is eating up like a good stadium, it needs to build its own substation, but how many are there in Moscow?

                    in fact, this problem is solved at a time, there is no capacity, there is no launch of the facility, or refilling
              3. +1
                2 October 2018 11: 28
                Quote: Jerk
                You understand, for example, that after 90's all over the country it is necessary to shift for example all the infrastructure - the resource of ek.

                We understand. About this we still Chubais at the beginning of the zero broadcast. Well, they disbanded RAO UES, and then what?
            2. 0
              2 October 2018 09: 51
              Do you have a smartphone? Oh god, how surprised I am. You live so badly that you can pay for a smartphone, the Internet as a poor American, and find free time. I also find him, but I do not whine. And you will be surprised, nobody pays me
              1. +2
                2 October 2018 11: 29
                Quote: igorbrsv
                Do you have a smartphone?

                Estimate, no. Be surprised further.
                1. +1
                  2 October 2018 12: 01
                  And you don’t have a computer ... You’re writing from a computer of a comrade fighting the regime who died of starvation.
                  Hang on, the whole world is with you.
                  1. +2
                    2 October 2018 12: 23
                    Quote: Mestny
                    0
                    And you don’t have a computer ...

                    Comp is, count up, what matters. And there is no smartphone. I don’t need him.
                2. -1
                  2 October 2018 12: 38
                  NO. I thought such no longer exists.
                  1. +1
                    2 October 2018 13: 23
                    Quote: igorbrsv
                    NO. I thought such no longer exists.

                    Russian teacher? C grade I.
            3. +1
              2 October 2018 10: 20
              Putin will decide. Wait your turn
        2. +3
          1 October 2018 14: 23
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          Quote: Lara Croft
          Those. laugh is the right of the elect and only us?
          when you have 110-180 volts in your house
          You are aware that in the Kaliningrad region in rural areas PT are calculated from the calculation of 4 kW per household

          Vladimir, the issue is not as easy to solve as it seems. Non-standard 15KVA networks have been preserved in the rural areas of the Kaliningrad region; German transformers are still in operation. Not from a good life, but from the fact that it was necessary to order such transformers individually, as non-standard, at an appropriate price. That is, to change existing networks, you need a lot of investment and political will.
          There may be another way out of your situation. Such a voltage is a clear phase imbalance. Switching at your load substation in a more balanced way can even out the voltage.
          1. +4
            1 October 2018 16: 08
            Quote: Igor V
            Vladimir, the issue is not as easy to solve as it seems.

            Well, you do not make people laugh, you want to say that there are no transformers? !!
            for that there is a bunch of new meters with remote reading, though there is no equipment to read this information
            and there are also 220 V + - 5 standards for no more than 1-2 minutes
            Quote: Igor V
            There may be another way out of your situation. This voltage is a clear phase imbalance.

            the issue was resolved once after a letter to the president, his Fri in the village and everyone is happy
            Quote: Igor V
            Such a voltage is a clear phase imbalance.

            it’s not a warp; it’s a nonsense when several villages hang on a single road for a frequent one with a distance of several km
            it’s easier to limit people's consumption than to give the necessary power, and the chief engineer frankly told me that there is an order (oral) that if people don’t give power, do not give it, people think that a microwave can warm a glass of water for 5 minutes, and the washing machine just shouldn’t wring it hard, well it always has been
            1. +3
              2 October 2018 11: 21
              I thought you really want to understand the problem, and you confuse technical issues with your own conclusions. Okay, I won’t take you seriously anymore.
            2. +1
              2 October 2018 12: 05
              Nobody is going to "give" you anything.
              Buy it.
              And this, for young fighters with a note on the regime - asynchronous multiphase motors with a speed controller are used in washers. He doesn’t care - there are 180 volts or 230 there.
              Yes, and other modern technology, without exception, works in a wide range of voltages without visible effort.
    2. +2
      1 October 2018 08: 54
      and those who set the cons represent Thu is 110-180 volts in the house? !!!
      1. 0
        1 October 2018 15: 48
        On critical household appliances, I advise you to put a voltage stabilizer. Only surely not all. For example, lighting and a kettle are not necessary. A pump and a refrigerator are needed. If the whole village will put stabilizers and at the same time stick a heater there, then this will not help you. But if only for important non-energy-intensive equipment, then that's enough for everyone. Energy-intensive stabilization is generally not needed. Modern TVs and 110v standards
        1. +1
          1 October 2018 21: 30
          Quote: igorbrsv
          Modern TVs and 110v standards

          do not write nonsense, there is no sound
          Quote: igorbrsv
          Energy-intensive stabilization is usually not needed

          as I understand it, you skipped physics lessons at school ?!
          1. +1
            2 October 2018 00: 40
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            do not write nonsense

            Read the last line carefully, where about AC Power. Since you are a physicist, as I understand it, they did not skip, I don't need to explain what it is.
            1. 0
              2 October 2018 09: 07
              first, why is this table more accurate from what?
              secondly, the Philips media player at 140 volts does not produce sound although it works
              thirdly, I did not consider it necessary to explain a brow who does not know elementary substances, but nevertheless I will explain
              when the voltage on the electric motors is lowered, your speed drops with all the ensuing consequences - pressure does not increase in the water supply system, heat transfer in the heating system drops, motors starting through the starter may not turn on at all, clothes are not wrung out in washing machines, not to mention that when working at low voltage, electric motors have a reduced service life
              what happens at low voltage on electric heaters need to be explained ?!
              if you knew the basics of physics even a little bit, you wouldn’t have to explain it
              P = U * I
              1. +2
                2 October 2018 11: 35
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                Why is this table more accurate from what?

                The first line says. Actually, they were discussed.
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                I did not consider it necessary to explain a brow who does not know elementary substances, but

                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                if you knew the basics of physics

                Be careful. Accusing strangers of incompetence ... mmm ... is shortsighted.
                Have you heard about the Dunning-Krueger effect? True, this is not from physics.
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                P = U * I

                For alternating current, phase shift and the nature of the load (active / reactive) are also taken into account.
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                at reduced voltage for electric motors, the service life is reduced

                Which ones? It is possible for collector ones, hardly asynchronous ones, for stepper ones it depends on the controller and their power supply.

                PS I don’t understand, you were kindly advised to get out of the situation - yes, imperfect, yes, temporary, why become a pose? Do as you are told and solve the problem slowly ...
                By the way, such cases are observed everywhere - and in large cities there are areas where the voltage "sags", and villages, not to mention summer cottages ... Power consumption has increased dramatically, you yourself write how many electrical appliances you have, the networks do not have time ...
                Good luck.
                1. -1
                  2 October 2018 12: 08
                  Is this a way out. You have to think about it with your head.
                  All space and Putin walk in - that’s their way out.
                2. 0
                  2 October 2018 14: 01
                  Quote: region58
                  For alternating current, phase shift and the nature of the load (active / reactive) are also taken into account.

                  Dear, do not engage in verbiage, a voltage drop will definitely lead to problems with the equipment
                  Quote: region58
                  PS I don’t understand, you were kindly advised to get out of the situation - yes, imperfect, yes, temporary, why become a pose? Do as you are told and solve the problem slowly ...

                  if you read CAREFULLY, you would understand that I solved the problem, but did not write nonsense that with 110 there will be no problems
                  1. +1
                    2 October 2018 15: 23
                    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                    dear do not engage in verbiage

                    Well, yes, well, yes ... That is, when you started with one, jumped to the second off topic, then incorrectly refer to the third, then these are "facts that are not in doubt", and when you are tactfully pointed out (not only by me) , then this is "verbiage". Familiar ...
                    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                    did not write nonsense that at 110 there will be no problems

                    It’s a pity that you didn’t understand what they were trying to tell you about ...
                    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                    I solved the problem

                    Cherry on the cake. Everything around is bad, and you are all alone in white ... Why then fuss?
                    Once again, I wish you good luck. Without any hidden meaning.
                    1. 0
                      2 October 2018 15: 34
                      Quote: region58
                      then these are "facts not in doubt"

                      Thu specifically you are questioning
                      Quote: region58
                      Everything around is bad

                      Well, yes, better swept over the neighbors
                3. 0
                  2 October 2018 16: 41
                  Quote: region58
                  Power consumption has increased sharply, you write how many electrical appliances you have, do not have time for the network ...
                  Good luck.

                  read everything and then look stupid
            2. +2
              2 October 2018 11: 13
              Quote: region58
              Read the last line carefully, where about AC Power. Since you are a physicist, as I understand it, they did not skip, I don't need to explain what it is.


              only the equipment in which the switching power supply is installed will work, it will automatically switch to the standard 110 volts
              and the refrigerator will burn stupidly
              1. +1
                2 October 2018 12: 03
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                only the equipment in which the pulse power supply is installed will work

                No. In Philips, which you indicated is also a pulse power supply, however 220-240V.
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                it will automatically switch to the standard 110 volts

                No. The operating range is from 100 to 240 volts, and no standards (in my example).
                However, these are already technical nuances ...
          2. +4
            2 October 2018 08: 56
            I skipped lessons in the techie, but only in the library, and then moonlighting. By energy-intensive equipment I mean a heating system, kettle, electric stove, water heater, heater, etc. We have the same rate of 4kW. Everything is electrical. I chose a kettle of 1,2kW, a water heater of 1,5kW 80L, an electric stove of 7kW. I explained to my wife that you only need to turn on two comforts. To protect against "fools" set the machine to 16A. I am not trying to criticize you, I want to advise how to solve your problem. Write
            1. +1
              2 October 2018 12: 35
              Quote: igorbrsv
              heating system, kettle, electric stove, water heater, heater, etc.

              that is, for these devices the power does not depend on voltage? !!!
          3. +1
            2 October 2018 09: 08
            to the one who minus put a minus I advise you to see the formula for the dependence of power on voltage
            1. 0
              2 October 2018 09: 59
              I agree. But here region58 you knowingly brought a tablet for the monitor. He tried and laid out at least. And deserves respect already
              1. +1
                2 October 2018 11: 00
                Once again, the media player stupidly at low voltage does not give a sound, although it works, are you satisfied with SUCH work ?!
                but the fact that he tried ...
                it would be better to read the basics of physics in nete
                Quote: igorbrsv
                And deserves respect already

                excuse me, but if people do not know something arguing on a topic, then this does not cause respect, but quite the opposite
                1. -3
                  2 October 2018 12: 12
                  If a specific player suddenly does not work for someone, this is his problem.
                  1. 0
                    2 October 2018 14: 02
                    Quote: Mestny
                    0
                    If a specific player suddenly does not work for someone, this is his problem.

                    no, in this particular situation, this is the jamb of the supplier, since there are 220 V + - 5 standards for no more than 1-2 minutes, and by the way, with a strong fall in the problem, ALL and not just one
                2. +1
                  2 October 2018 12: 15
                  Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                  it would be better to read the basics of physics in nete

            2. +1
              2 October 2018 11: 29
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              to the one who minus put a minus I advise you to see the formula for the dependence of power on voltage

              Here, damn it, a connoisseur of physics! You need to give the formula for the whole chain, and not for the site. You will still discuss the velocity formula V = S / t, where the speed depends on the distance, etc. Do you understand that this is stupidity?
              1. 0
                2 October 2018 12: 46
                No, really. Let's with gravitsapoy
              2. 0
                2 October 2018 14: 04
                another specialist
                you need to know the power drop just on the site, that is, on the terminal equipment, provided that it will not work at 220 but at 120
                1. 0
                  3 October 2018 21: 57
                  I wrote to you about the phase imbalance, you fell off. What else can we talk about then? Talk about the price of firewood in Tiksi Bay, how it affects your stress. What you write here is technically completely illiterate.
  8. +3
    1 October 2018 07: 06
    Well, photographs of abandoned factories, I can do in Kurgan. Nuclear power plants sawed, master of the master.
  9. -3
    1 October 2018 07: 22
    While living in Lithuania, I learn a lot of interesting things about it from the Russian media! laughing
    1. +5
      1 October 2018 08: 34
      At the end of the seventies he visited his comrades in Lithuania weekly (Kaunas, Vilnius, Šiauliai, etc.), his life was seething and there was no crowding in the streets. And after a long break, at zero, he was on a business trip to Kaunas, at my request, a comrade drove me to the same cities. The difference is amazing. Industry in Lithuania definitely killed. To zero. In principle, the same is with us, not counting industrial centers (Moscow, St. Petersburg, the industrial Urals, well, another three or four centers). Everything else in Lithuania is beautiful, beautiful, clean, historical monuments and tourist places are licked, (you cannot compare with our cities), but the deserts are amazing. I ask, but where are the people? Answers: in Europe and beyond. In general, then our people at the same time in the same quantities left the country in the same region. So the lure of a wonderful bright bourgeois life, the bait thrown by the bourgeois at the end of the last century to people in the USSR, was swallowed not only by the Lithuanians, but also by us. It's just that the scales for Lithuania and Russia are different. And if Lithuania wanted (or wanted to) to live on a microscopic scale without protruding anywhere, then it does not need industry and energy for nothing. Unlike us. Well, something like this.
    2. +1
      2 October 2018 04: 50
      Yes, retro photo was especially pleased. People and views of the Lietuva cinema are kept, probably Sporto Rūmai will come out sometime :)))
  10. +5
    1 October 2018 08: 32
    That's what they need!
  11. +2
    1 October 2018 09: 10
    Even if the Russians are not to blame, then you should throw the arrow or come up with a crazy idea, the Russians are supposedly to blame. In the era of global censorship in the West and overseas, any gross lies pass
  12. +6
    1 October 2018 09: 12
    All these foolish tribalt should be as stupid as possible disconnected from our energy flows, no matter what, electric, gas, oil, fuel, and even if they burn a torch. All of them must pay in full for their Russophobia and even with interest.
  13. +1
    1 October 2018 09: 44
    Kaliningrad is an enclave surrounded! Not friends to that!
    Problems will be. not everything is ready .... and so, yes figs on these Baltic states.
  14. +9
    1 October 2018 09: 53
    Well, I would not be so categorical that only the trends described by the author play here. The fact is that energy security in Europe is a myth in general, and as regards the same nuclear power plants, it’s just a stupid and undisguised hysteria:
    https://www.dw.com/ru/ахен-запасается-йодом-насколько-высок-риск-катастрофы-на-аэс-в-бельгии/a-40328619
    To make it clearer: in 2018, we considered that in November Belgium would face a crisis of insufficient electricity production due to the fact that it had recently stopped 1 unit of the nuclear power plant. The conclusion was drawn from this one - they decided by the 25th year to close all nuclear power plants to hell! Curtain, your waving!
    Another example? Japan. Not only is hrenaknaya all atomic energy and now sitting on a starvation diet, there’s a new round: they now build thermal power plants on coal, there’s nowhere to go, and for this the greens of the whole world are now chasing them, they say, oh, pollute the planet, oh emissions, sit without light, scum! In the name of whales and penguins ...
    So this is such a modus vivendi. Purely pro-Western cretinism
    1. -1
      1 October 2018 11: 03
      You there, please, do not point your finger at the Japanese on ecology :) they are redeeming our share of the allowed pollution of the planet
      1. 0
        1 October 2018 11: 51
        so this means that they lack their quotas
      2. +8
        1 October 2018 12: 07
        The most interesting thing about it is that about air pollution from thermal power plants, the U.S. citizens are most indignant - they are the ones who did not sign the Kyoto Protocol on air pollution at all - only the United States and their mongrel Canada did so - now they have come out of all emission agreements in general. Yes, and they themselves have been 50 years already the main air pollutant laughing
        But that is not the point. Japan cannot live without either coal or nuclear power. And with Belgium, this is cooler - it is in Japan that a paradise for alt-energy, wind there, tidal ES. An island country where you can’t spit - the coast. The generation of these ES in Japan is approximately 1% of the total. So island Japan could not replace the nuclear power plant with green energy, and activists in BELGIUM, where a piece of the coast to a healthy country - yelling - we build wind farms on the coast and replace nuclear power plants.
        Well, not nerds?
        1. +2
          1 October 2018 15: 25
          I agree with you in everything except
          Quote: Jerk
          activists in BELGIUM where a piece of coast to a healthy country

          I do not consider this country healthy either literally or figuratively. smile Yes, and confuse her with Denmark, when it is impatient, but this is rare. smile
  15. -6
    1 October 2018 10: 28
    Farewell, unwashed Russia,
    The country of slaves, the land of lords,
    And you, blue uniforms,
    And you, loyal people to them.

    Seer
    1. +6
      1 October 2018 12: 13
      It is written on the way to the Caucasus, where the poet went to fight for the interests of Russia. Addressed to the regime of a particular emperor, to whom he opposes precisely Russia, so sit down, five. Remember the rationale for overthrowing the backward regime by the progressive communist movement laughing
      I told you - for this, you bots, Biden also dispersed, as if you were shouting something that you do not understand.
      By the way, one of Putin’s favorite poems - he quoted more than once
      1. +1
        1 October 2018 15: 20
        I will add: the gendarmes, that is, the political police, had blue uniforms.
    2. 0
      2 October 2018 12: 13
      Quote: Timtam
      Seer

      I would go to my own.
  16. +2
    1 October 2018 13: 01
    The most advanced power system in the world was created in the USSR. The "partners" tore it apart in order to damage the Kaliningrad region.
  17. +2
    1 October 2018 15: 17
    So all the same, there is no one to "appoint" guilty except for Russia, Russian and personally VVP. That and look, there are still witnesses who saw how the GDP itself put something out of order or turned out a couple of bulbs and stuffed it into his pocket.
  18. Doctor
    +4
    1 October 2018 15: 37
    Lithuania has always been to blame for the Russians. In early summer, they threatened to withdraw from the agreement on parallel operation of the energy systems of the BRELL electric ring and instead sign an agreement on synchronization of electric networks with Western Europe at the end of June. Something is not noticeable that Europe sought to connect the Baltic countries to its energy system.
  19. +2
    1 October 2018 20: 18
    Good article !!! Easy to read and smile !!!
  20. +1
    1 October 2018 21: 23
    The consumers from Kaliningrad alone go there. I go to my parents. Alas, they stayed there.
  21. +1
    1 October 2018 23: 53
    For the author - this time it turned out somehow unbridled, already with some sort of whistle (at the beginning). People will understand, without reference to petrosia. The meaning of the article very serious, but is washed away by hochmochki from the very beginning, and the result is lost, because again the feuilleton of Zhvanetsky and Raikin was performed by Khazanov.
  22. +4
    2 October 2018 03: 43
    It is clear that the article is intended for Russians who have never been to Lithuania and never will. The message is clear: "how they are bent without us."
    I’ll say as a resident of Lithuania. Yes, there was a power outage, but for a couple of hours. Maybe in the villages more. Is that a sensation?

    The pictures are funny. You see that the author of those who know about Lithuania from Wikipedia is no more. Cinema photo: in that place (Pilimo street) a complex of modern art, a very interesting building, has already been completed.
    An abandoned factory in the city center? Photo from the 2000s. The plant was called "five". Residential buildings and offices have long been in this place.
    Zalgiris Stadium - photo from 2010. Now - residential buildings and offices.
    1. +3
      2 October 2018 09: 11
      In that case, we are glad. But we will never miss an opportunity to laugh at the problem of a gamerope. We now have a culture "everything is lost." We can argue and swear. But We are not you. We will not bend. May the world bend under us and the majority of Russians will support me
  23. +2
    2 October 2018 07: 45
    To the author's last phrase, words from the anecdote: "she died, she died."
  24. +1
    2 October 2018 08: 40
    He studied at VVKURE, went to the cinema of Letuva on big holidays and at premieres (it was expensive and prestigious), watched matches of FC Zalgiris at the stadium (the team was on the rise and took third place in the USSR championship), Ignalina was built by the whole union and there were many hopes for development of the entire industry of the Baltic states (including Poland and Kaliningrad). I live in the Crimea. Nuclear power plants were also ruined here. But now the power supply is no problem. Exploded four lines on the peninsula from Ukraine. Crimea begins to flourish! Let Lithuania ask the Ukrainian and Tatar Natsik to help get rid of the invaders.
  25. 0
    2 October 2018 08: 58
    Quote: Wilderness
    In the article, the conversation is about "a cow dead at a neighbor's" and readers like this statement of the question

    A little clarification.
    We raised this "cow" together. Our regions received less money just because they had to buy this "cow" for the Lithuanians.
    And then let others choke her.
    So okay, just milked. No, the task is to kill.
    This is how we should relate to all this? With understanding and tolerance?
  26. +1
    2 October 2018 12: 12
    Trilobites not even tribalty.
    Let them suffer.
  27. +2
    2 October 2018 14: 35
    Wait, because it is not rightfully located on the original Russian lands.
    1. 0
      2 October 2018 19: 38
      And where are they, the Lithuanians, except Lithuania, located? :))
  28. +3
    2 October 2018 14: 46
    Russian soldiers shed blood for Lithuania so that it was the USSR (Russia), that's why there is nothing to talk about. Let them learn the Russian language. Either they gain the right to live in these territories or are part of the Russian community.
    1. +2
      3 October 2018 12: 33
      No no ! We do not need these young men, let them feed them! hi
  29. +1
    2 October 2018 14: 59
    and here we have sneaked up a polar fox
    in Russia they can once again try to introduce a social energy consumption rate for the population, when tariffs rise sharply when the limit is exceeded. The scheme was approved by Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Kozak, departments should submit draft documents in January 2019. The new version of the social norm will apparently be softer than the scheme introduced in 2013-2014. But at the same time, the government can reduce the list of consumers equated to the population and refuse benefits for villagers and apartments with electric stoves
  30. +1
    2 October 2018 15: 11
    . well, where are they? - the founders are russophobes .. mediocrity .... what have you achieved? ..the people must answer! ... everyone is under the people's court ... henceforth, so that it would not be common for the Nazis to open their mouths ... ... well, "live and rejoice" with Western values ​​on your nose .... ha ha ...
  31. +4
    2 October 2018 17: 10
    Last year, I finally took my mother-in-law out of this unfinished business. A good lesson to all those who rattle from morning till night about the "charms" of Tseuropa. I had to admire these delights for 25 years twice a year! In the end, the children went on strike, categorically refusing to go to their grandmother in "Europe", and then her own daughter, finding any excuse so as not to trudge to Lithuania. The only association I have with the abandoned and dying out "Nursing Home". Hell, even the Khrushchev buildings in St. Petersburg have been repaired and they cannot be compared with the garbage dumps from which entire districts in Lithuania are built. After moving to her new house in the Leningrad Region, the unhappy mother-in-law rushed about the rooms for another year, turning off all electrical appliances from the sockets and twisting the heating to a minimum (no matter how we arrive, she has a terrible dubak!). At first, a simple thought did not fit into her elderly brain: "Well, how are we going to her as much as 70 km in one direction, and even sometimes in two cars with grandchildren and great-grandchildren, this is how much gasoline !?" Now I have got used to it, but still I have not completely got rid of some Baltic paranoia of "saving on matches."
  32. -1
    2 October 2018 18: 54
    N-yes ... Already 60 thousands without light! And the city of Taganrog (under 300 000) for four days without water (any!). So we wonder: whether the CIA, or the Englishwoman shits. But without enemies, definitely not done. Ps. I am silent about the fact that in our two high-rises (more than 200 apartments) there is no hot water from 13 July (!!!). And not foreseen. Whether we, too, in Lithuania, or another geopolitical problem, but Nitsche! harden! and again into battle (peace - after a hot shower - we only dream).

    Well, commented. You are welcome to minus.
  33. 0
    2 October 2018 18: 57
    Quote: 97110
    RF - well-planned capitalist democracy

    I agree with you, except for this:
    RF - well-planned capitalist democracy

    Well-maintained ??? For whom? Yes, and with a noun sooo big question ...
  34. -1
    3 October 2018 12: 57
    Quote: Wizzzard
    N-yes ... Already 60 thousands without light! And the city of Taganrog (under 300 000) for four days without water (any!). So we wonder: whether the CIA, or the Englishwoman shits. But without enemies, definitely not done. Ps. I am silent about the fact that in our two high-rises (more than 200 apartments) there is no hot water from 13 July (!!!). And not foreseen. Whether we, too, in Lithuania, or another geopolitical problem, but Nitsche! harden! and again into battle (peace - after a hot shower - we only dream).

    Well, commented. You are welcome to minus.

    And you have more bile and most importantly do not forget to blame the evil drinks
  35. 0
    3 October 2018 14: 42
    bribes we are not friends your friends americos they will give you everything - crawl to them
  36. VB
    0
    5 October 2018 20: 06
    Arrived in Vilnius yesterday. He became so miserable. I drove from the airport at 23 o'clock - on the streets of no one. The right way to go. The apartments are cold.