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Ukrainian Navy: Russian "Blesna" and "Plum" were "stopped" by Ukrainian armored boats

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In command of the naval forces of Ukraine, they decided to submit another piece of information on the transfer of the Ukrainian ships Donbass and Korets from the Black Sea to the Sea of ​​Azov. We will remind that earlier this transition of the search and rescue vessel (floating workshop) and sea tug president of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko called almost a feat. Apparently, when taking into account the state of these "floating craft".



Russian Coast Guard Boat


Now, the Ukrainian Navy claims that in relation to the Donbass vessel and the Korets tugboat, Russian border boats allegedly carried out provocations, which were eventually stopped by Ukrainian armored boats.

From the statement of the press service of the Ukrainian Navy:
The border boat of the Russian Federation at high speed tried to get close to our ships, but the decisive active actions of the crews of the small armored artillery boats "Lubny" and "Kremenchug" were diverted and not allowed to the site of the search and rescue ship "Donbass" and the sea tug "Korets".


The publication presents a record of the negotiations of the Russian border boat project "Mongoose" and the ship of the coast guard "Crimea". Calls are used in negotiations. Blesna-92 и "Plum-19". At the same time, a phrase sounds that clearly strikes a blow at the version of the IUD about “provocation”. This phrase sounds like this: “Closer to the boats do not fit! How did you understand? Reception. That is, no one was going to carry out a "dangerous rapprochement" on the approach to "the future Ukrainian naval base on the Sea of ​​Azov."

The video with the idea that the Ukrainian Navy is understood under the term “provocation” was published on the Ukrainian office’s Facebook page. Link - here.

Apparently, the transition of "Donbass" and "Korets" (translated as a scoop) will now be included in the annals of the Ukrainian stories. According to him, a feature film will be shot on the Ukrainian Move, where they will tell how the tugboat broke through the Russian armada near Kerch. But viewers of this film do not recognize that the Ukrainian crews requested assistance for the passage through the Kerch Strait from a Russian pilot.
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Ministry of Defense of Ukraine
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    1. Evil543
      Evil543 26 September 2018 08: 02
      +16
      They not only requested the assistance of the pilot, but also stood in line
      1. Thrall
        Thrall 26 September 2018 08: 58
        +5
        There will be a number if "Donbass" is pulled in for recycling, and when the heroic veil from the transition dissipates, it will be cut into scrap in Marika smile
        1. Evil543
          Evil543 26 September 2018 09: 00
          +2
          Broom delivery for recycling?
          1. Barzha
            Barzha 26 September 2018 15: 02
            +1
            Broom delivery for recycling?

            Why not. In Mariupol, the metal recycling plant operates. Although, I think that the Plavmaster was driven to use it for its intended purpose. Until it decays at the berth at all.
            Sea tug "Kortsa" (translated - scoop)

            Koretsa - from Ukrainian "scoop", "ladle" ... And in the navy this kitchen attribute is called "chumichka". lol
            1. Varaga
              Varaga 27 September 2018 13: 36
              0
              Colleague soldier I confirm.
      2. Yuyuka
        Yuyuka 26 September 2018 10: 27
        +6
        Quote: Evil543
        They not only requested the assistance of the pilot, but also stood in line


        firstly, they were not in line - they were sitting in ambush, and secondly, when the pilot arrived on the "cruiser" he said - "Glory to Ukraine!" And he went over to their side, after which he led them on the attack and they took the Crimea in the ring. At the same time, 3 Russian aircraft carriers were sunk! Now Russia has no aircraft carriers ...
        1. venik
          venik 26 September 2018 15: 02
          +3
          Quote: Yuyuka
          Now Russia has no aircraft carriers ...

          ==============
          Signature: "... Poroshenko ..." laughing
      3. Fitter65
        Fitter65 26 September 2018 14: 25
        +2
        Quote: Evil543
        They not only requested the assistance of the pilot, but also stood in line

        So, in addition, a strait passed without the flag of the Navy, apparently so that our sailors did not laugh at the battle troughs of Ukraine.
    2. aleks_29296
      aleks_29296 26 September 2018 08: 16
      +2
      In the absence of other victories, any "overcoming" feat.
      1. 210ox
        210ox 26 September 2018 08: 42
        +2
        Their feat is any crowing in the media.
        1. major147
          major147 26 September 2018 09: 10
          +1
          Quote: 210ox
          Their feat is any crowing in the media.

          Aha! Whoever crows louder has more "feat"!
          1. helmi8
            helmi8 26 September 2018 09: 49
            +1
            Quote: major147
            Whoever crows louder has more "feat"!

            They wanted it as before - "Fell! Wringed out!", But it turned out - "Bent over and farted" ... They have all the news in this vein ... laughing
    3. vkl.47
      vkl.47 26 September 2018 08: 31
      +4
      So, our pilot was on the ship. And then they sent a notification in a day. The players can minus me))
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 26 September 2018 09: 02
        +3
        And this is a maritime practice - when entering the port, when passing through the narrow places and fairways, the pilot makes wiring.
        1. Evil543
          Evil543 26 September 2018 09: 25
          +2
          It's about overstepping, which has turned into a farce
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        2. Rzzz
          Rzzz 26 September 2018 09: 31
          +1
          For military vessels, the requirements of compulsory pilotage do not apply. At the discretion of the commander. And you can’t inspect.
          1. Gray brother
            Gray brother 26 September 2018 11: 09
            +4
            Quote: rzzz
            At the discretion of the commander.

            The pilot was.
            The press service of the Ukrainian Navy also stated that "In addition, some mass media began to spread another fake of Russian propaganda about the alleged payment of pilotage services to the aggressor country. There were no payments for pilotage services when sailing through the Kerch Strait" [indeed, as reported, During the passage of the Kerch Strait, the Ukrainian side took advantage of the free services of a Russian pilot in accordance with the Russian rules of navigation, which provide for free pilotage in the narrows of a towed non-navigable facility dangerous to navigation, which was considered the towed Ukrainian search and rescue vessel Donbass - bmpd].
    4. Varaga
      Varaga 27 September 2018 04: 01
      0
      Ukrainians will not scream. "Banderlog" will scream.
  2. Conductor
    Conductor 26 September 2018 08: 01
    +4
    So Svidomo and in the names of the ships hazing !!!!!!! The ship is a scoop)))))
  3. A good one
    A good one 26 September 2018 08: 04
    +2
    For the Ukrainian talk show, this news is the most. smile
  4. Sarmat Sanych
    Sarmat Sanych 26 September 2018 08: 06
    +22
    B ... ah ... oh, damn it ... Ahahhaaahbvahaaa !! OFFICIALLY paid to the Russian pilot about 4000 € and OFFICIALLY asked for permission to pass under the Bridgewassat... Maybe ours should already voice the information? It was more like the funeral of the Outskirts Navy: a rusty tug pulls a burnt-out '69 barge at a speed of 3 knots (even feces swim faster in calm weather), there is something to be proud of, it's time to award medals "For passage under the Bridge". I would not be surprised if those passing through the Crimean Bridge stopped to piss on the "base of the future Azov flotilla" that was sadly floating under them. They say that someone even piled a katyak on the stern of the tuglaughing.
    1. Gray brother
      Gray brother 26 September 2018 11: 11
      0
      Quote: Sarmat Sanych
      OFFICIALLY paid

      If they "paid", it only means that someone pocketed the money.
    2. Rzzz
      Rzzz 26 September 2018 21: 37
      0
      There are not 4 thousand euros worth less. How much - I won’t say it now, I can find out tomorrow how much we pay for our steamboats.
    3. Antares
      Antares 26 September 2018 21: 38
      0
      Quote: Sarmat Sanych
      OFFICIALLY paid about 4000 € to a Russian pilot

      In accordance with clause 1.11 of the FAS Order 223/16 of March 10, 2016, port dues rates, including pilotage rates, are not applicable to warships (including ships flying a foreign flag) and military support vessels ”,
      Payment information is where
      In Rossmorrechflot they added that the Ukrainian ships took the pilot and took a place in the caravan. They passed the Kerch Strait, accompanied by border guard ships. After that, the Russian pilot left the Ukrainian ship.
      “Once they took the pilot, then, of course, they paid for the pilot,” the Rosmorrechflot specified.

      In turn, it is quite logical
      According to the information of the Director General of the Crimean Seaports Aleksey Volkov, it took almost four hours for Ukrainian ships to pass the Kerch Strait.

      In general, ours did not pay in accordance with the agreement / compliance with the FAS Order, which I cited. The question is cleared. Rosmorrechflot is also not sure of its words.
      The pilotage of Ukrainian military vessels along the Kerch Strait was carried out by the Crimean Sea Ports enterprise, which has a pilotage service in Kerch.
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 26 September 2018 21: 56
        0
        Quote: Antares
        In general, ours did not pay in accordance with the agreement / compliance with the FAS Order, which I cited. The question is cleared. Rosmorrechflot is also not sure of its words.

        Dear Svidomo friend,

        Your knowledge of Russian orders and other Russian laws is especially pleasing.

        At the end of the agreement "On friendship and cooperation .... i.p." between Russia and Ukraine, the denunciation of which Petsa was broadcasting with such enthusiasm the other day, all this "raspberry" will end. And then no "all the worlds" will be able in any way to convince Russia that the Kerch Strait, like the territorial waters of Russia, will continue to be accessible to foreign ships and ships without special permission.
        I explain on fingers - everything that you call the Ukrainian Navy, introduced into the waters of the Sea of ​​Azov, will be locked in the coastal waters of your country, so to speak.

        Considering that you are with your peasant mentality, you will again tear your hair and sprinkle it with ashes, saying that "Russia is bad", counting on the help of the "civilized West", I can warn you right away - it WILL NOT HELP. Whether you recognize Crimea as Russian, or you don’t recognize it, it doesn’t matter.

        The United States, in its ambitions, is solving other pressing problems. Only Mr. Volcker is worried about your Bandera fate. But he will not climb "into the embrasure", but rather recommend you do it to you fools. Explain that the fate of your super-fleet on Azov will be similar to that that befell the remnants of Georgia's boats in August 2008?
  5. 3vs
    3vs 26 September 2018 08: 06
    0
    "The publication contains a recording of the negotiations between the Russian border boat of the Mongoose project and the coast guard ship Krym. The callsigns" Blesna-92 "and" Sliva-19 "are used in the negotiations. At the same time, a phrase sounds that clearly strikes the Ukrainian Navy's version of "Provocations." This phrase sounds like this: "Do not come closer to the boats! How do you understand? Reception."
    But what, the voice traffic on the ships is not encrypted, can anyone intercept the negotiations?
    1. alexmach
      alexmach 26 September 2018 08: 59
      +5
      In the sense of encrypted? And how will you talk with a boat of another country over an encrypted channel?
      In the sense that anyone can intercept? Can the participant of the conversation "intercept" him?
    2. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 26 September 2018 09: 09
      +4
      There are international channels on which radio is exchanged.
    3. Gray brother
      Gray brother 26 September 2018 11: 13
      +2
      Quote: 3vs
      But what, the voice traffic on the ships is not encrypted, can anyone intercept the negotiations?

      This is an open channel. It is used so as not to endanger shipping.
    4. Varaga
      Varaga 27 September 2018 05: 05
      -1
      Yes, most likely this information was provided by the marines themselves. For greater persuasiveness. Otherwise, it is impossible with "pan-heads". Only complete and irrefutable "proof" will bring these cunning-backed citizens to clean water. As with MH17, for example.
  6. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 26 September 2018 08: 07
    +3
    Did two rust troughs reach the destination port? I generally thought that they would sink right under the bridge, making navigation difficult to the last limit ... Like, in spite of my mother-in-law, I would frostbite ... Let no grandchildren have it! The rest of the pig screech is of little interest.
  7. raw174
    raw174 26 September 2018 08: 09
    +7
    Ours are certainly wrong! The Navy needs to stay away from these vessels, because passing nearby, our boats create a wave that is critically dangerous for the elderly! Then you have to catch sailors ...
  8. Altona
    Altona 26 September 2018 08: 11
    +2
    The Coast Guard boat of Project Mongoose is a spaceship compared to these cans. To drown these two unfortunate troughs to him like two fingers on the asphalt.
    Features:
    Displacement, t - 27,2
    Overall length, m - 19,45
    Width is the greatest, m - 4,40
    Departure height in the middle, m - 2,2
    Draft at full displacement, m - 1,16
    Maximum speed, knots - up to 50
    Economic speed, knots - 36
    Cruising range at economic speed, miles - 410
    Autonomy, days - 2
    Crew - 3-6
    Two MTU main 10V2000M93 engines powered by Arneson ASD-14 drives with partially-immersed fixed-pitch propellers or KaMeWa water-jet propulsors.
    The total maximum engine power - 2240 kW (3000 hp)

    Armament:
    Patrol boat class "Mongoose" can carry a variety of weapons, depending on the tasks or on request of the customer it is installed at the factory. Standard version of equipment "Mongoose" weapons:
    - 14.5 mm thumb stationary machine gun installation;
    - one or two machine guns caliber 7.62 mm;
    - “Igla” MANPADS;
    - anti-sabotage grenade launcher type "DP-64";
    - AGS-17 grenade launcher.
    In addition to machine guns, the customer is immediately offered to install the Whirlwind missile system. It has the ability to laser guidance and range of missiles up to 10 kilometers.
    1. alexmach
      alexmach 26 September 2018 09: 01
      0
      There, in fact, the very legendary Poroshenko armored car was present.
  9. Conductor
    Conductor 26 September 2018 08: 18
    +3
    Economic move 36 knots !!! You are not mistaken?
    1. Wild_grey_wolf
      Wild_grey_wolf 26 September 2018 08: 45
      +2
      Yes, it’s written on resources like this, but on VO the article was in '12, so it says like this:

      - economy / max speed - 35/71 km / h.
    2. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 26 September 2018 09: 06
      +2
      Quote: Conductor
      36 knots !!!

      If your head is spinning, you can be quieter.
      1. Conductor
        Conductor 26 September 2018 11: 53
        0
        Approximately 66 km an hour, but on a boat (almost a boat) they will both shoot, and stay on the boat itself, teeth will fall out when excited at half point, they have a titanium bottom or something to hold such loads.
        1. Varaga
          Varaga 27 September 2018 13: 40
          -1
          At this speed, no one will use weapons. The main thing is to catch up. And with this he, I am sure, will cope.
    3. Varaga
      Varaga 27 September 2018 11: 50
      -1
      It’s quite possible.
  10. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 26 September 2018 08: 39
    +2
    Even frank and terry lies should have some limits, otherwise the next time they might not believe it. The Ukrainian side has no limits, but Natsik and growing youth are happy to hawt what they are fed by Svidomo propaganda. Goebbels in a coffin turns over.
  11. sgr291158
    sgr291158 26 September 2018 08: 42
    +2
    For them, moving away from the pier is already a feat.
  12. steelmaker
    steelmaker 26 September 2018 08: 43
    0
    These Bandera boats did not have to be allowed at all until they released the hostages. Now what? When will our ships free people? How will our power of hostages be released and when?
  13. Mwg
    Mwg 26 September 2018 09: 09
    +2
    Once again, our "non-brothers" frightened the hedgehog with their bare ass
  14. Filxnumx
    Filxnumx 26 September 2018 09: 16
    +5
    On it, a feature film will be shot on a Ukrainian mov, where they will tell how a tugboat broke through the Russian armada near Kerch. But the audience of this film will not know that the Ukrainian crews requested assistance for the Russian pilot to get help through the Kerch Strait.

    No, according to the film, it will be an officer of the Russian Navy in his soul, fiercely hating "Putin's criminal power" and secretly dreaming of freeing Nenka from the "Russian hordes" tormenting her. At night, "contrary to the orders of his superiors," with a bouncing gait (his Schaub recognized in the dark), he would make his way onto an ukroboat (on the way, neutralizing a platoon of the GRU General Staff Special Forces and a couple of combat swimmers trying to attach them to a floating workshop's magnetic mine) and still show the "secret fairway" under the Crimean bridge. And at the pier of Mariupol they will be greeted by the captain's daughter (at choice: a tugboat or a floating workshop) with a zhovto-blakitny ensign and in lace panties, who has urgently returned after a night shift in Europe, Schaub "guidstreet heroes of Ukraine"
  15. Lord_Bran
    Lord_Bran 26 September 2018 09: 43
    +2
    He will go into anal sex. If you know what I mean.
    1. Examenatornick
      Examenatornick 26 September 2018 09: 46
      +1
      they are already there in these annals.
  16. DeGreen
    DeGreen 26 September 2018 09: 49
    +1
    Bliiin, how could it be, the whole country, Ukraine, went crazy all at once. The more I read about the tricks of Ukraine, the more I am amazed
  17. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 26 September 2018 11: 17
    +2
    All definitely overpowered!
    The Russians blasted!
    Now this brilliant operation must be entered into the anals of the history of Ukrainian victories over Russia.
    Each sailor has a firm handshake, each officer with a medal, each admiral with an order, and the commander-in-chief, Pan Parashenka, a marshal’s ribbon cross to cross!
  18. Lester7777
    Lester7777 26 September 2018 11: 33
    +1
    Well, just Operation Cerberus. Didn't they sink the missile cruiser there? At this rate, in a couple of days ukroSMI transition of these two rusty scows will be described as a heroic naval battle.
  19. Conductor
    Conductor 26 September 2018 11: 55
    0
    Exactly, Cerberus, but tiny)))) Maybe they themselves prayed there, drown us, and bummer, we got WHAT TO DO
  20. Fitter65
    Fitter65 26 September 2018 14: 28
    0
    Quote: helmi8
    but it turned out - "Bent over and farted."

    At the expense of a fart, I doubt it so slightly excited.
  21. Bshkaus
    Bshkaus 26 September 2018 14: 45
    -2
    Yes, judging by the comments, many have not yet "twisted" how it all could end in reality, and what it all means.
    The Ukrainians did not even notify the Russian Federation in advance of their intention to pass through and did it out of turn, besides, these are still military ships, the stopping of which, and even more so an attempt to use force according to all international rules, means a "declaration of war", which Russia will not dare principle. On this site they prefer not to talk about this, but, the passage of the ships was carefully watched by an American intelligence officer based on the RC-135V, so any provocation would be immediately "documented" and presented on the same day as a reason for new sanctions (at best case).
    PS As a "cherry" on the above cake, I would like to say that there were anti-sabotage boats on board the ships, which is also not customary to talk about)))
    1. Igor Golov
      Igor Golov 26 September 2018 16: 56
      -1
      He could have observed something, but whether he wrote something down is a big question, you know.
      1. Bshkaus
        Bshkaus 26 September 2018 17: 27
        -1
        He could have observed something, but whether he wrote something down is a big question, you know.
        Tell me, do you seriously doubt that the RC-135V did not record anything? This aircraft has quite large capabilities, moreover, it takes off from NATO bases in Western Europe and has overcome more than 1,5 thousand kilometers, having burned a pile of kerosene, what would simply "flap its wing" to the Ukrainian barge? Isn't that nonsense?
        Maybe something I don’t understand ?, then put me on the shelves, arguably, concretely and simply:
        point number 1 RC-135V did not record anything because the Americans are stupid ...
        point number 2 RC-135V did not record anything, because they forgot the camera on the base
        point number 2 RC-135V did not record anything, because Russia is the coolest
        I will be grateful.
    2. Antares
      Antares 26 September 2018 21: 47
      0
      Quote: Bshkaus
      Ukrainians did not even inform the Russian Federation in advance of their intention to go and did it out of turn

      what for? The inner sea of ​​the two countries, Ukraine can freely enter and withdraw anything there (it would be what exactly). There can be no warnings in principle. For Ukrainian ships and auxiliary vessels - you can’t even charge a fee. True, the queue still stood for 4 hours, there traffic is sometimes large.
      The fact that the site has more caps than sober discussions is understandable. There is the word Ukraine, which means a topic for the soul ... as they say.
      The most interesting thing is that Poroshenko's Twitter entry is extolled by ROSSMI as "rang all over the media" ... oh, how. Although this is only a record in an American network resource ..
      And the passage of the ships itself was already accompanied by an information war - they paid pilots, did not pay,
      1. Bshkaus
        Bshkaus 26 September 2018 23: 23
        -1
        The fact that the site has more caps than sober discussions is understandable. There is the word Ukraine, which means a topic for the soul ... as they say.
        Listen, what else to talk about, about increasing the VAT to 20%, or about pensions? You can talk about medicine ... And imagine, if we here with you hint about the new anti-ship missiles "Neptune", I certainly understand that at best they will appear in service and cover the coast of Azov only in the summer of 2019, maybe even later, but myself fact - the people have a cognitive disonas, like this 404th, and RCC. So they live in their illusions, completely oblivious to how the Armed Forces of Ukraine has the initiative on the front line, how ammunition factories are opened, equipment is being modernized, and new weapons are being built. And tell me how a huge number of electric cars drive around Ukraine, they won't understand (in Russia they have not heard of such a curiosity). Tell us about "Green Tariffs" - they will think that this is a tariff paid in dollars. Ukraine has long been an appendage of the United States. About the ubiquitous insulation of high-rise buildings - you just don't have oil, it's easier to heat a street in the Russian Federation than to heat a house))). Yes, a lot of good things have happened in Ukraine over these 5 years ...
        1. Varaga
          Varaga 27 September 2018 05: 24
          -2
          On my own behalf, I will add: "... Tell me about how people, young and old, go to Poland to work. And return without a" spear. "Well, they will not understand that this is Ukrainian national fun. Where are they, the dark ones .. . "
          - "I, if I am in Russia, have fooled the taxi driver!"
          - "Ta ty scho! Pretty little one! And yak?"
          - "I gave five hundred rubles, but I didn't get it myself."
          1. Bshkaus
            Bshkaus 27 September 2018 09: 45
            -1
            ... And tell us about how people, young and old, go to Poland to earn money.
            I tell you, and you remember because This is an elementary topic for a 1st-year psychology student:
            To achieve the desired information field, information (news) of the relevant content is required.
            To create news with specific content you need:
            1- pre-prepared script.
            2 - corresponding picture.
            3-semantic accompaniment (desired interpretation).
            Let's consider this theory using a real example of "huge queues for bread in Ukraine", which was intensively covered a couple of years ago in the Russian media:
            Our task is to show that in Ukraine everything is so bad that people are starving.
            1. We take a standard state social stall selling bread with a price 30-40% lower than the market price in the nearest store especially for senior citizens (there is such a benefit for senior citizens in Ukraine).
            2. We remove the queue of grannies standing behind this bread (bread is sold after delivery) and especially cunning ones who also do not mind buying bread at a "free price" (by the way, they can stand in queues for days at a discount in any other store and there is nothing shameful about this is not).
            3. We mount a video in which we inform that in Ukraine there is nothing to eat and in the queues for bread there is a crush.
            Actually READY, many types willingly believe you ...
            Unfortunately, I can’t say for sure about your specific question with the border, I just didn’t see a specific case and don’t deny that many are leaving exactly the same as from Russia. But forgive me, leaving the Russian Federation in the summer time I stood at the checkpoint for 2 hours in huge queues (although these are not huge), you must admit that this also does not mean that people are "fleeing from Russia."
            1. Varaga
              Varaga 27 September 2018 11: 17
              -2
              They are running. They are fleeing to Russia. From Ukraine including.
              And about your Ukraine, you better tell the idiots from your power. They will shake you with their glossy double chins and pat you on the shoulder in a fatherly way: "Well done! OUR man is immediately visible ..."
              And about "cooking" videos, so who knows better than you. You have them on every channel that a dog has fleas. And the truths in them, like a snake's feet.
              And do you know who you are "spinning the moon" to? I'll tell you ..
              I grew up in Ukraine. My numerous relatives live there, including father, uncle, aunt, sisters, nephews. I am Ukrainian. Do you still think that I have no sources of an alternative point of view, both in relation to our media, and in relation to yours?
    3. Varaga
      Varaga 27 September 2018 11: 35
      -2
      That you sho! .. Taki boats?! ..
      I have been to the PM of Project 304 repeatedly and I responsibly declare to you that no boats will fit there. There are no holds for this, and on the upper deck there is no room for large boats. This is a floating workshop for repair of surface ships and there the whole place is occupied by equipment and machine tools. And even if there was at least one boat (let's say in the order of delirium), then there is no way to quickly launch it into the water from the PM.
      1. Bshkaus
        Bshkaus 27 September 2018 12: 32
        0
        ..And about his Ukraine ...
        Firstly, I am a citizen of Russia and have been it since birth.
        ... You better tell idiots from your power ...
        Secondly, insulting people is a sign of ignorance, which is resorted to only in the absence of logical arguments (as I was taught at the 1st year at the university).

        I grew up in Ukraine. My numerous relatives live there, including father, uncle, aunt, sisters, nephews. I am Ukrainian. You still think that I do not have sources of an alternative point of view, as regarding our media
        Thirdly, lately I have been especially attentive to such words, because I have often seen people from the Donbass, to put it mildly, of a not very high social level and education, who even have no idea about the Kiev Lavra or other trivial information about their country, so now it can be rude, but I ask in the face: who are you, who are your relatives What kind of education do they have and what do they do? it is purely for oneself to better understand the origins of one or another view.
        Sorry, but the opinion of real criminals and junkies (speaking about the above, but in no case about you, or your relatives) actually do not interest me.

        ... and responsibly declare to you ...
        Fourth, until you answered "third," I simply disregard your opinion.
        1. Bshkaus
          Bshkaus 27 September 2018 12: 34
          0
          By the way, it is interesting to know where Igor Golov has "blown away"? I would still like him to reasonably substantiate his comment and answer the questions that I asked him.
        2. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 27 September 2018 12: 40
          -1
          Quote: Bshkaus
          Firstly, I am a citizen of Russia and have been it since birth.

          And how many of you are there, "daughters of akhvitserov"?
          1. Bshkaus
            Bshkaus 27 September 2018 13: 37
            0
            And how many of you are there, "daughters of akhvitserov"?
            Sorry, you probably wanted to express some kind of thought?
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  22. tungus111
    tungus111 26 September 2018 15: 39
    -1
    Gee-gee .....
  23. APASUS
    APASUS 26 September 2018 18: 27
    +1
    The old burned-out vessel was dragged in tow to Berdyansk to organize a naval base, while warships more or less suitable for operation were left to rot at the berth in Crimea.
    Such a mysterious distraction?
  24. TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 26 September 2018 19: 08
    +1
    Actually, Korets is the name of the city. there is such a small town, either in the Zhytomyr, or in the Volyn regions.
    1. Antares
      Antares 26 September 2018 21: 48
      +1
      Quote: TermNachTER
      Korets

      Korets (Ukrainian Korets, Polish. Korzec) - the city, the administrative center of the Koretsky district of the Rivne region of Ukraine on the banks of the Korchik River.
      the tug was built at the Yaroslavl shipbuilding (serial number 403) in 1973 - was called MB-30
      1. Varaga
        Varaga 27 September 2018 04: 52
        -1
        ... And it is translated into Russian as "scoop".
  25. razved
    razved 26 September 2018 22: 10
    +1
    When there are no real victories, they need to be invented, and then constantly boast about them ...
  26. Varaga
    Varaga 27 September 2018 04: 51
    -1
    I’m looking at how all these Ukrainian pseudo-patriots behave and wherever you throw - everywhere a wedge.
    And they dug the Black Sea (the Azov Sea, apparently, too), and they intercepted the entire Black Sea Fleet in this sea (I think they intercepted something else and a little more) and the sea, in fact, was probably dug for this, and they are descendants of the ancient ukrov (a small tribe of Baltic Slavs - what have the Ukrainians got to do with it ?!), and for the whole of Europe Ukraine is the last bastion (although they immediately yell that they will not survive without the EU and NATO - so who is whose "bastion"? ..).
    And now, here's another "pearl" - they intercepted our border boats. It's good that a meager little mind was enough not to declare - they intercepted ours with the "Donbass", with the help of "Korets". When passing through our territorial waters.
    By the way, the Donbass is not a search and rescue vessel. This is a floating workshop (PM) pr. 304. I heard that Ukrainians call this vessel a ship. But it is not a ship either by definition. This is an auxiliary fleet vessel. A ship is a military unit of the Navy.
  27. Varaga
    Varaga 27 September 2018 13: 08
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    Quote: Bshkaus
    insult people

    In whom did you see the people in the current government of Ukraine ?! Then who are they (these "people") killing in Donbas ?!
    Me purely "violet", than you neglect there.
    The honor is not great ...
  28. Varaga
    Varaga 27 September 2018 13: 17
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    Quote: Bshkaus
    who are you, who are your relatives, what is their education and what do they do?

    But this is no longer your business. I know very well what can happen if THERE find out who they are and where they live. My sons-in-law have already spent several months in the cellar twice. The result of that very "mobilization". And if the good people hadn't hidden them, you look, and my tribesmen would have been left without their fathers.
    So, it’s not for you to set any conditions here. You have no such right. And I will not give.
  29. Varaga
    Varaga 27 September 2018 13: 28
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    Quote: Bshkaus
    insulting people is a sign of ignorance

    ... Or a sign that they are what they are called.
  30. Varaga
    Varaga 27 September 2018 13: 53
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    Quote: stalkerwalker
    And how many of you are there, "daughters of akhvitserov"?

    Them that is HERE, that there have got divorced - a dime a dozen. Such a "daughter" will come, she will rant with nonsense, and people who are simpler believe. And this "daughter" is happy to try. The day was not in vain.
    From the category of Trukhanov-Kovtunov-Karasevs & Co such "daughters".