Double defeat of "EP" from the LDPR. Governor's "blue belt"?

The reality is that according to the results of the gubernatorial elections in certain regions of the country, representatives of the parliamentary majority party in the Russian Federation were defeated. Thus, in the elections for the head of the Khabarovsk Territory, the representative of the LDPR, Sergei Furgal, is celebrating the victory. In the fight against the current governor, Vyacheslav Shport, he scored about 70% of the votes that came to the polling stations. Unicorn Shport has less than 28% support votes.

Sergey Furgal

The election debacle suffered the candidate from the "ER" and in the Vladimir region. The incumbent head of the region, Svetlana Orlova, lost the electoral race in the second round of elections to LDPR representative Vladimir Sipagin. According to the Central Election Commission, Orlova has about 37,5%, and Sipyagin - 57% of the votes of the Vladimir voters.

Vladimir Sipagin

Experts point out that this alignment should not be viewed as a victory of the LDPR in regional elections, but as a defeat for United Russia, with a significant decrease in the level of trust in this political force in the Russian Federation. This is supported by the fact that many of the polled voters in the regions where members of the party Vladimir Zhirinovsky are celebrating the victory have little idea of ​​which development program the candidates for governor presented. In fact, there was a protest vote, which led to the victory of the opposition forces. The reasons are clear: the latest initiatives "ER", promoted in the country.

At the same time, the question remains open about how oppositional are the forces that will send their representatives to the governorate in the regions? More specifically: can these parties, through their representatives, be able to carry out their own initiatives, which are contained in their programs, without looking back at the same party of the parliamentary majority?

Comments

[Andrey Yuryevich]

and these were regional elections ... and if there were elections all over the country, but to the thought, for example ... something would have happened ...

[Mechanic]

Yes, the EP program, too, no one really knows. Just fed up

[renics]

Yes, no one has any program, only unfulfilled promises of a populist sense. For which no one asks. Unlike the president, when he demands the implementation of his decrees from the regional authorities. They don’t care about people, they just bred their numerous business offices, recorded on dummies, and they spud off the State Budget of the Russian Federation.

[den3080]

That's right. The LDPR has no program. The stream of consciousness, which periodically gives Zhyrik through the box, can also be called delirium of a madman, but not a program.
How do they even exist in their LDPR? Gather and listen to their leader? And what's next? Funny my roof would go.

[NIKN]

The reasons are clear: the latest initiatives of United Russia, promoted in the country.

Yes, they do not promote anything, for me the reason for their hostility to EP is that they, being elected by the people, did not give a damn about voters and promote UNANIMOUSLY what Medvedev will tell them. What are these elected representatives? These are no longer our chosen ones, but Medvedev's henchmen, our people should have defended our interests, and these would have betrayed our voters, and betraying them once, what should I expect from him, how will I trust him and vote for him?

[Стена]

And it always seemed to me that they are Putin's henchmen, who serve him faithfully.

[Nikolay Fedorov]

Quote: NIKNN

What are these elected representatives? These are not our chosen ones, but Medvedev's henchmen ...

So who exactly is not Medvedev’s henchmen is the State Duma. They have other owners, however, like the iPhone. It’s enough to see how they applaud, jumping up in a single rush, when the US Congressmen went to the State Duma’s balcony, the very ones that pass the very legislative acts, the final goal of which is to destroy Russia.

[Vita vko]

Quote: renics

there are only unfulfilled promises of a populist sense. For which no one asks

This is the main problem of many democratic countries !!!
For example, if you were promised to build a house and you pay 4 years for construction, which is not there. I am sure any person will immediately run to court with a statement of fraud and theft.
The question is, why are similar campaign promises that are then not kept in court not considered fraud? In many countries, politicians who have a remnant of conscience themselves are resigning, even if they cannot fulfill their election promises for objective reasons. In Russia, there have never been such precedents. Hence the corruption and the mess in power.

[Alf]

Quote: renics

Unlike the president, when he demands the implementation of his decrees from the regional authorities.

He demands to demand, but he doesn’t ask for non-fulfillment, but he only replaces the raiders in another chair, and this is not always the case.

[Svarog]

Quote: Mechanic

Yes, the EP program, too, no one really knows. Just fed up

Yes, that's just the EP program is known to everyone, they managed to get acquainted in 18 years .. It is aimed at personal enrichment, by any means (theft, ripping off their own citizens, etc.)

[alexmach]

I’m tired of it, but is it really a choice to choose other clowns instead of some clowns? In general, the trend is very alarming. And EP - yes, it’s time to drive these long ago.

[reservist]

well, if the "clowns" will know that they are not "on top" for life, and there is a real probability of being responsible for "sins", then maybe they will at least "look around" ...

[would]

but to choose instead of some clowns of other clowns is this really a choice?

No, these are normal elections in the Russian Federation ... it can be worse.

[Ivan Ivanov]

Quote: Mechanic

Yes, the EP program, too, no one really knows. Just fed up

Obviously, a protest vote, an unknown eccentric from the LDPR wins by a margin of 70 to 30, they hooked the people with reform so that they vote for anyone just not for edro, but the LDPRs are their branch.

[Sergej1972]

Furgal in his region is quite a famous politician. He participated in the last election.

[Ivan Ivanov]

Quote: Sergej1972

Furgal in his region is quite a famous politician. He participated in the last election.

How much did you gain?

[Sergej1972]

It seems to be about 20%. A Short about 70%.) Approximately. I judge by publications on the Internet, I bring the numbers from memory. It seems that they write that Furgal and Shport in real life spoke well with each other, there was no real confrontation between them.

[NordUral]

Their program - their actions - gobble up Russia. Thieves and crooks!

[Nychego]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

something would be ...

A centrally organized "correct" result of the "vote" would be.
To hand over a couple of regions to corrupt Zhirinovites for consolation (there is no typo) of the people is not a question, but getting a naughty State Duma is at least a difficulty for the current government to realize its goals.

[New Year day]

Quote: Nychego

A centrally organized "correct" result of the "vote" would be.

something now the machine crashed. You just have to go and vote. Mass muhlezh is very difficult to hide. True, real opposition is needed for this, but it’s not there.

[Mestny]

Here I agree.
At least just vote, at least in the form of a protest.

[Ivan Ivanov]

Quote: Silvestr

You just have to go and vote. Mass muhlezh is very difficult to hide

Yes, if they are straining themselves at the federal level (and this is not a fact), then in the regions they can play a trick, so you can change the governor’s corps, it’s important that nobody gets hit. This is the answer to everyone who does not go to the polls.

[maksbazhin]

I will support, the government will hand over several problem regions to other other parties. But the sad thing is that the regions will now put them on a hungry rations, and then they will say look how they feel bad. Personally, my city has already passed.

[Ivan Ivanov]

Quote: maksbazhin

Personally, my city has already passed.

If the change is massive, it will be more difficult to strangle with rations.

[Nychego]

Quote: maksbazhin

Personally, my city has already passed.

Isn't Jekab the case?
We have been waiting for the second metro line for about 15 years. They promised it to us regularly. The last time to this mundialina, but each time they found reasons not to start the construction and most importantly not to buy a tunneling machine (the first branch was digged by one of the passages of the Severomuisky tunnel picking on BAM).
In general, for the last at least 15 years, Yekaterinburg has actually been systematically transformed from an industrial city into a sales and warehouse city. Even the definition of "hub city" has appeared.

[NordUral]

Yes, they give Zhirik or Mironov, but not Zyuganov. Although he, Zyuganov, should transfer the party to a young and tough leader who is not connected with Putin's ties.

[Metallurg_2]

Don’t worry, they’ll come up with some help for the next federal election and everyone will again run together to vote for EdRo, forgetting about VAT and the retirement age.

[rocket757]

Everything like that already happened! Even if I think about distributing Party members under other labels, this will not change anything!
Remember how in the old films - Marya Ivanovna. Take away this marriage from them and give them another! -
Nothing fundamentally changed in this way!
This is capitalism, democracy "baby" !!!

[Mestny]

Well, where are you, adherents of socialism? Where are the winning candidates from the Communist Party?

[Sergej1972]

I think if the Shevchenko nominated by the Communist Party passed a municipal filter, then he would most likely become the governor of the Vladimir region.

[Ivan Ivanov]

In the Vladimir region they removed it, because the Liberal Democratic Party got out, in the Primorye - it was canceled, in Khakassia the Communists have a majority against the SR and the "party of growth."

[Sergej1972]

I think that for the Kremlin, the communist governor in the Vladimir region would have been more acceptable in reality, compared with the Zhirinovites.) They relied too much on Orlova.

[NordUral]

Serezhenka, then, later, when your rats go to jail, people will explain everything to you. The place of thieves, crooks and their servants is in prison.

[Digital error]

forgetting about both VAT and retirement age

Do not forget, do not worry. Now people in these regions have 5 years to understand that one is not a warrior in the field (if they are really opposition candidates, they will be removed from the "trough"), or that the sum does not change from the rearrangement of the terms. One thing pleases - figures like Zolotov in 5 years will be even more anecdotal (everyone wanted, but no one could be forever young). And this is a chance for the development of the country.

[NordUral]

Correctly. This Edrovsky crook will itself educate the people in understanding who is now in power in the country. And the people will understand that it’s a crime to lie on the stove before children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren.

[alexmach]

By the next election, the reforms outlined already will begin to be implemented. When will they start raising their retirement age? Since 2019? Then it is logical to consider what is happening only as a public.

[Ivan Ivanov]

Quote: Metallurg_2

Do not worry - they’ll come up with some sort of help in the next federal election

How much you can tell citizens, do not engage in politics - politics will be yours.

[Vadim237]

Better do business, and leave politics to politicians - do not get into this swamp, you have a lot of your problems.

[New Year day]

Quote: Metallurg_2

will come up for the next federal election

the next mutut and the people will become embittered. The elections showed that the people are going wild

[New Year day]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

and if there were elections all over the country, but in a thought, for example ..

or presidential

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

something would be ..

very interesting

[Detective]

Dear Sylvester, and other comrades. Sorry, I’ll probably ask complete stupidity in an audience that is so knowledgeable in the elective nuances, but I can’t help myself at all - can the Liberal Democratic Party in principle win against EP? Well, or rather EP lose the Liberal Democratic Party? Even though the LDPR candidate won some kind of election? Excuse me again - the LDPR is opposed to the party in power?

[New Year day]

Quote: Detective

Dear Sylvester, and other comrades

Igor. these

Quote: Detective

LDPR and EP

one field is a berry. Another is important - they are biting among themselves. But there is no real opposition;

[New Year day]

Quote: Detective

But can the Liberal Democratic Party in principle win against EP?

Igor! Just a photo, but what a!

[Karenius]

When the Union was already collapsing, at the elections of the Chairman of the Presidium of the Armenian SSR Armed Forces, a dual power was established: the commies could no longer, but the new thing could not yet ... . I am the first to refuse the party membership card and urge everyone to do the same "... Naturally, then he founded the liberal democratic party :)

[Svarog]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

and these were regional elections ... and if there were elections all over the country, but to the thought, for example ... something would have happened ...

I think there would be massive falsification .. but how differently ..

[Digital error]

And this is natural - for all free electric trains you will not be enough for the elections. And in these regions, instead of creating processing industries, they export timber to China, and fish to Japan. This year, unprecedented in the last 20 years of Putin - up to 15 thousand tons of red fish per day were caught. And in the nearest store, smoked pink salmon, as it was for 550 rubles / kg, is still lying, the "hand of the market" did not touch it.

[Bull Terrier]

About the forest lies. Once upon a time they blocked it all. They almost never take it out of us.

[Digital error]

Nice to hear. And how to create new jobs for you?

[rocket757]

Quote: DigitalError

Nice to hear. And how to create new jobs for you?

The authorities have a lot of opportunities to prove themselves .... you just need to WORK for the good of society!

Quote: Bull Terrier

About the forest lies. Once upon a time they blocked it all. They almost never take it out of us.

Well if so .... the slogan used to be that FOREST is our wealth! For people, of course, work is without great prosperity, however, but for capital people it’s true wealth!

Quote: DigitalError

Now people in these regions have 5 years to understand that one in the field is not a warrior

Boom to hope that people will "wake up" at last !!!

Quote: Mestny

Well, where are you, adherents of socialism? Where are the winning candidates from the Communist Party?

With the Communist Party, everything is very oblique \ sour, so what are the adherents from our Socialist past, it is not necessary to follow them. So far, against all official issues.

[Vadim237]

Everything is fine with them, until 2025 49 new technology parks will be opened, with 20000 jobs in each.

[NordUral]

Your words are not entirely true. https://masterok.livejournal.com/4624430.html

[Detective]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

and these were regional elections ... and if there were elections all over the country, but to the thought, for example ... something would have happened ...

Would LDPR win ?!

[Iline]

What would it be?
The thing is how to count and how to scatter candidates in districts. In our Saratov region, for example, by-elections were held in the State Duma. Primakov from edra was elected in one constituency, Alimov from the Communist Party of the other. And there was no sane alternative to them. All fraternally, in an open battle, figures from the trough do not want to go. And in the State Duma it is possible to inflate cheeks and represent a guardian for the people.
But this does not work with the gubernatorial elections, here the battle is face-to-face.

[Graz]

I’m tired of everything in order, in the vast majority of provincial cities, at best, complete stagnation, all municipal property was seized and plundered by others crawling into city councils, you can put 2 out of 3 to the wall and you can’t go wrong

[Bull Terrier]

I have no idea what cities you are talking about, everything was normal in Ha. To exchange a stable Sport for an incomprehensible person, this will soon come back to everyone. Khan of new interchanges, Khan of Chinese investments, their Sport brought them here under their guarantees, Khan of Korean technology of the road which was pressed for 7 years. I’m 200 percent sure that they will allow the center to be built again, because today I saw the wild joy of the developers. But you have to come to terms, people made a choice

[renics]

(Khan of Korean technology of the road which was pressed for 7 years) they were pressed for seven years and this you give out here as some kind of achievement, this is elementary stagnation. Your local authorities have everything there, and they don’t give a damn about the rest of the people living in the Far Eastern Territory and they don’t need any changes for people.

[Bull Terrier]

The fact is that it deprives a lot of business of a lot. Many are very resistant. As for the rest, you are fundamentally wrong. We have been working here for many years and we know a better situation.

[Konstantin Shevchenko]

Tediously, the majority party will not be edro, but the same people will be there.

[K-612-O]

And who chooses the city duma? Martians? Go to the polls, to the local ones too, choose not edro.

[Piramidon]

Quote: K-612-O

And who chooses the city duma? Martians? Go to the polls, to the local ones too, choose not edro.

Yes, the fact of the matter is that there is no one to choose from. Only on promises all the "handsome", but how to get to the steering wheel ...

[K-612-O]

So look at the biographies of people, go yourself to the local deputies for the worst. In Moscow, city deputies often change. Although the turnout is also not so hot.

[Piramidon]

Quote: K-612-O

go to the local deputies yourself

How simple it is with you, like getting a job as a security guard in a store. For this you need to have a "pusher". We have amateurs climb into power structures, but with hairy and raking hands.

[K-612-O]

The "pusher" is usually a party. And the cadres are the same everywhere, in any party, also from the same people. And by the way, such a minority among self-nominated candidates

[Severok]

LDPR is the home opposition to the government. These will not change anything and, most likely, will follow the course drawn by the IMF and the Fed for Russia.

[Semurg]

Quote: Severok

LDPR is the home opposition to the government. These will not change anything and, most likely, will follow the course drawn by the IMF and the Fed for Russia.

Of course, it’s your own business to elect governors, but the victory of the LDPR honestly annoys me a little, as their leader Zhirinovsky openly calls for the annexation of Kazakhstan. The demagogy of Zhirik, as I understand it, has a killer effect on the province of the Russian Federation, and as soon as control from the center weakened, his party began to gain strength.

[Metallurg_2]

Not Kazakhstan, but its northern part, populated mainly by Russians.

[Fedorov]

Zhirinovsky in Iraq promised to turn the Earth’s axis, so that the United States washed away the tsunami. (there is a video), and now what?

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Semurg

Demogogy Zhirik

And this is due to the fact that there is no real power, that’s all garbage talking.

[Narak-zempo]

I do not know any Kazakhstan. There is Turkestan, which belongs to Russia since the XNUMXth century. And there is our Baikonur.

[Sergej1972]

Kazakhstan (before the revolution, the Kyrgyz region) only partially belonged to Turkestan. .

[shura7782]

Quote: Semurg

Quote: Severok

LDPR is the home opposition to the government. These will not change anything and, most likely, will follow the course drawn by the IMF and the Fed for Russia.

........ I honestly get a little annoyed because their leader Zhirinovsky openly calls for the annexation of Kazakhstan .....

I remember the performance of Zhirinovsky in 2004 in Ukraine. I was completely shocked by this. Ten years have passed and here is the result. There in Kazakhstan it is imperative that something similar will happen. It’s not for nothing that the striped ones loot the loot there as in Ukraine. For starters, nationalism, then Wishlist in NATO, etc. Well, everything is as always. If it is already annoying someone there, then whatever that happens, you need to strain in full right now. Wolfovich is not mistaken in his predictions. Use this.

[Konstantin Shevchenko]

LDPR is a family party, we remember well how gangsters sold places in the Duma. Business is nothing more.

[shura7782]

I ask my post not to be considered an advertisement for the Liberal Democratic Party.

[renics]

The essence of this course is bourgeois, that is, the dominance of the bourgeoisie elevated to the law both in Russia and beyond the hill for them all have the same, anti-people.

[Mestny]

We already had a people's party - the CPSU.
How did it end? Our domestic communists buried the idea of ​​a just society for 100 years, if not more.

[Стена]

This is you in vain. Now we have people who lived in a different social system, their memories will remain, and also what we should strive for and not allow those miscalculations that were at that time.

[igorbrsv]

EP is bad, LDPR is bad, the Communist Party is bad. How good then? Just a revolution?

[Piramidon]

Quote: igorbrsv

EP is bad, LDPR is bad, the Communist Party is bad. How good then? Just a revolution?

And where to get Lenin?

[Vadim237]

You have Razvalny instead of Lenin, and instead of the armored car Horse - Sobchak.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Vadim237

You have Razvalny instead of Lenin, and instead of the armored car Horse - Sobchak.

Comrade, Vadim, from what hangover do you ascribe to me some kind of "breakup" and horses? You need to have a snack before inserting comments.

[New Year day]

there is something behind him, brings

[Masya masya]

just a battle of parties ... let him at least from the hell of a bald, violet ... if only he did the thing!

[Bull Terrier]

That is the point. We turned the decisions important for the regions into party squabbles. For me, too, it doesn’t matter what person has a party if he understands his business.

[DEDPIHTO]

Quote: Masya Masya

Yes, even if he was from the bald, violet ... if only he did the thing!

That's just the same about him and tired of loafers and thieves. And it was he who received a bald head from the people, lackeys raked only to the heap. In this situation, I again have a claim against the haberdashery Sue for the surrender of the Khabarovsk and Vladimir regions. pro-government liberals, his back in 96g. it was necessary to survive from the Communist Party-Chaldean in his eatery place.

[minus]

Against this background, it is very interesting how the situation will develop in Khakassia after Zimin refused to participate in the second round.

[Masya masya]

Eugene , at our place Merkulov submitted his resignation letter ... and you worry about Khakassia ...

[minus]

Good afternoon! Now he told his wife about the resignation of Merkulov, so she answered me that this event can even be noted

[Mountain shooter]

Let them now try to "perform beautifully", not in elections, but at work Do you remember Evdokimov? I managed to do what before I died ...
I'm really sorry for Khabarovsk. So it went well there ...

[zan_parti]

I am glad that EDRo can be defeated.
But not at all happy that there really is no one to vote for.
We need new people to trust.
For some reason, those who sit in the Duma for 20 years, for some reason there is no trust.

[Mestny]

This is the problem of Internet fighters.
You cannot understand in any way that your goal is destruction.
But it should be the other way around - creation.
You seek to get rid of power at all costs.
What will happen next? Who will represent this power after victory, and how? No one is interested.

[Alf]

Quote: Mestny

You cannot understand in any way that your goal is destruction.

Did you create a lot of items?

[Vadim237]

You know, after what happened in the 90s, United Russia has created a lot of new things around the country, the last of their achievements is "Crimean Bridge".

[New Year day]

Quote: Vadim237

United Russia members across the country have created a lot of new things, the last of their achievements is "Crimean Bridge".

have you mixed up anything? Such

built?
Built hard workers, engineers. but not like that

[Vadim237]

Built under their principles - in terms of decision-making and allocation of budgetary funds.

[New Year day]

Quote: Vadim237

Built under their principles - in terms of decision-making and allocation of budgetary funds.

and stole .....

[Alf]

Quote: Vadim237

You know, after what happened in the 90s, United Russia has created a lot of new things around the country, the last of their achievements is "Crimean Bridge".

And how many destroyed? And the EP should not be separated from the 90s, this party came from there through multiple reassignments, but the essence has not changed from this — the party of big capital and politicians merged with them.

[Essex62]

About nothing. The main thing is who is in the Kremlin and the State Duma. Yes, even if the "communist" won the elections to the governors, will he immediately abolish capitalism in his "province", nationalize private ownership of the means of production and mineral resources? Whoever gives it to him will sit down instantly. The demons of the change in the social order of the people will still be in a certain place and in a certain position. The question is how to do this? Not yet ripe. Shavolat still survive.

[Essex62]

About nothing. The main thing is who is in the Kremlin and the State Duma. Yes, even if the "communist" won the elections to the governors, will he immediately abolish capitalism in his "province", nationalize private ownership of the means of production and mineral resources? Whoever gives it to him will sit down instantly. The demons of the change in the social order of the people will still be in a certain place and in a certain position. The question is how to do this? Not yet ripe. Shavolat still survive.

[Svarog]

Quote: Essex62

About nothing. The main thing is who is in the Kremlin and the State Duma. Yes, even if the "communist" won the elections to the governors, will he immediately abolish capitalism in his "province", nationalize private ownership of the means of production and mineral resources? Whoever gives it to him will sit down instantly. The demons of the change in the social order of the people will still be in a certain place and in a certain position. The question is how to do this? Not yet ripe. Shavolat still survive.

That's right .. I have the same opinion ..

[Sergej1972]

And where did you get the idea that the majority of the people in these regions really want to "abolish capitalism, private ownership of the means of production"?

[Darth gazgkull]

This analogue of the CPSU has already pulled up.

[tatra]

The CPSU improved the life of the people, and United Russia only worsens it, adopts laws against the people. And none of those who, under the Yeltsin-Putin-power "and now are better than under the communists", is able to honestly, adequately, as a person who wants the good of Russia and the Russian people, is unable to answer - why he is against the communists.

[K-612-O]

You remember 87-91 years and can understand. The collapse of the country, civil war, coupons. The Communists ended in the 70s. Thanks to Khrushch and his followers.

[tatra]

Exactly, as soon as one of the enemies of the communists, Gorbachev, with the help of eternal lies and hypocrisy for them, seized power, and gave freedom of speech and action to the enemies of the communists, something that has been going on for 80 years happened in the late 30s. And ALL wars on the territory of the USSR over these 100 years, both under Soviet power and under anti-Soviet power, unleashed the enemies of external and internal communists. And they TWICE dismembered Russia / USSR, and made the collapse of their country their main state holiday in all the republics they captured USSR, and some also celebrate "100 years of statehood."
They also staged food and commodity sabotage at the end of the 80s, when even in "snickering" Moscow the store shelves were instantly empty.

[Mestny]

To you, adherents of communist ideas, I am giving you a quote from your patriarch "Any revolution is worth nothing if it knows how to defend itself."
In this case, the revolution is replaced by power.
What kind of power is this, where such an insidious enemy could get into, and break everything?
Such power is worthless. Everything turned out, as it should, with such power.

[tatra]

Here it is the mentality of the enemies of the Communists in the USSR. As they fled in droves and millions in absentia before the invaders of their homeland by the invaders and Nazis, and the Communists blamed the blame for this, for years, decades under the USSR, they pretended to be the Communists and their supporters for the BENEFIT, and again blamed the Communists on this lies and hypocrisy .
And on whom do you blame for the fact that for the sake of profit you pretend to be "great philanthropists" in propaganda against the communists, you portray "righteous anger" at the facts under Soviet communists - which in all other cases you justify or "do not notice"?

[Стена]

This adherent of edrosia does not want to understand that defending this regime, he accelerates only the process of the collapse of his country.

[Vadim237]

Yes, yes, yes - everything Russia since 2000 is falling apart, falling apart, falling apart and finally "falling apart" - hello GDP for 2018 is more than 100 trillion rubles, a modern army, gold and foreign exchange reserves of 470 billion, one of the lowest world debts of 13% of GDP, the annexation of Crimea, the record growth of agriculture, energy, industry, engine building, finally they made a civil aircraft engine, which is in no way inferior to modern foreign counterparts PD 14, domestic MRI, matrices for thermal imagers, turbogenerators, optical fiber and many other things that the USSR I could not pull it, and this is all despite the fact that there were two economic crises and the continued increase in sanctions pressure.
What would the EP further us "fall apart" - I'm all for it.

[New Year day]

Quote: Vadim237

Yes, yes, yes - everything Russia since 2000 is falling apart, falling apart, falling apart and finally "falling apart" - hello GDP for 2018 over 100 trillion rubles, a modern army, gold and foreign exchange reserves of 470 billion ...

and an increase in VAT (and all prices for everything), and pension reform.
"No money" - your idol said

[Vadim237]

I’m sorry, I’ll suffer much more from higher VAT than you - but I don’t have to talk about it on every corner, and all the prices for everything on us depend on the appetites of manufacturers and speculators — of which there are millions in the market.

[New Year day]

Quote: Vadim237

I will suffer much more from VAT increase than you

me your expenses and losses on the drum

[Alf]

Quote: Vadim237

Sorry, I’ll suffer a lot more from the VAT increase than you - but I don’t complain about it on every corner

Yes, yes, now you will assure everyone that you will reduce your profit by the amount of increased VAT .. You will simply throw an increase in the price and with clear eyes you will say that it’s not my fault, I can’t work at a loss.

[private person]

Here, using the example of the Vladimir region, United Russia will show what will happen to the topic who is against it. Thieves from United Russia specially left for an object lesson a couple of regions and will oppress them in every possible way and show their inability to manage, and then the good "king" will put his vassal.

[K-612-O]

Well then, in the Oryol region, Klychkov sits like glued, and even takes 80%, and compared to Lipetsk, there is a seam there. But the Kremlin doesn’t throw it away. Probably because there are still elections.

[Sergej1972]

He is a governor without a year week. Why throw it away? I am not a supporter of the federal structure of Russia, but so far we have a federation, we must understand that federalism implies the responsibility of the regional authorities primarily to local residents, and not to the central government.

[K-612-O]

Well, then I went for a second term, despite the fact that the results in the field are not ice. And then what does the Kremlin and edro?

[Sergej1972]

What is the second term? He was acting after the resignation of Potomsky. For Klychkov and the Communist Party, and United Russia campaigned.

[Sergej1972]

Not everything depends on the governor. In the Lipetsk region, things are going much better than in the Oryol region. However, the Lipetsk governor Korolev, to put it mildly, is a very controversial person.)) I generally think that at the regional level, unlike the federal level, a too powerful governor is not needed. There should be strong regional councils, which, together with the governors, would form regional governments.

[K-612-O]

He and Korolev came equally. And in the Lipetsk or Smolensk region they do so, only from the part of the governors.

[Sergej1972]

Klychkov since last year, acting Governor, and since September of this year, the Governor. And Korolev has been governing for 20 years. In the Oryol region, Stroyev, Kozlov, Potomsky were replaced during this time, and now Klychkov has been elected.

[igorbrsv]

Direct appointments canceled. So the "king" has nothing to do with it. Although many people like to say that. It would be better if they did not.

[Стена]

They intentionally leave nothing to anyone. And they cling to power by hook or by crook.

[Sotskiy]

LDPR ...
Have people even scored the meaning of any abbreviations? What changed for what, sewed on soap? But I thought it a sinful thing that we got liberalism as a political trend, it turned out I got only liberalism from United Russia. Well then .... Congratulations to Khabarovsk on a deliberate choice.
Burn Zhirik, your finest hour has come!

[Bull Terrier]

This is a wacky choice. There is nothing to congratulate

[krops777]

Double defeat of "United Russia" from the Liberal Democratic Party.

Well, what the ruling party wanted, they themselves removed the column against everyone, get a sign, by the way, this concerns not only these regions, for example, the governor of the Irkutsk region from the Communist Party, although the sense from him as well as from the predecessor from the EP, it’s just that people were bullied by this fraudulent government of all stripes, but the protest should somehow be expressed once in a different way.

[K-612-O]

It is possible in another way. Only by law!

[Narak-zempo]

Quote: K-612-O

Only by law!

Yes, through the court. The Russian court, which, according to the classics, is meaningless and merciless.

[Mestny]

According to the classics, this revolt is senseless and merciless.
From the very people who “know how to do it” and who “hates the authorities”.
The key here is not merciless. The key is meaningless.

[Стена]

Another expression is more appropriate here. The law that draws where I turned there and left.

[K-612-O]

And who forbids you to organize rallies, according to the law, at the request? And not "Tver marches". If the real problem is, then the people will come out, only it is necessary to organize according to the law, and not scream about the "bloody redhead."

[pilot69]

With its fuss in Primorye, United Russia has pretty much pissed off its candidates in other regions. People voted not "for" but "against". Against the EP. If yesterday there were still elections somewhere, the result for the United Russia would have been the same. PMSM.

[Vard]

Azarov defeated us in Samara ... And deservedly ... I don’t know how it will be ... But the last year has been rustling not childishly ... Roads ... Including the Frunze bridge ... Hospitals ... He supported the veterans. .. Communicating with the people ... I understand that EP is now blaming the trend ... But it seems that now there is a natural selection ... Who can’t cope .... Those were not chosen ....

[Alf]

Quote: Vard

Azarov defeated us in Samara ... And deservedly ... I don’t know how it will be ... But the last year has been rustling not childishly ... Roads ... Including the Frunze bridge ... Hospitals ... He supported the veterans. .. Communicating with the people ... I understand that EP is now blaming the trend ... But it seems that now there is a natural selection ... Who can’t cope .... Those were not chosen ....

The point is not in Azarov, but in the fact that over the past 20 years the regional and city authorities have been on their knives, and therefore the main city of the region got it all from the federal budget. Now the situation with Lapushkina straightened. So far so good, we will look further. But there is one problem - Azarov is a member of EP and he will have to support all EP directions.

[private person]

Quote: Vard

Azarov defeated us in Samara ... And deservedly ... I don’t know how it will be ... But the last year has been rustling not childishly ... Roads ... Including the Frunze bridge ... Hospitals ... He supported the veterans. .. Communicating with the people ... I understand that EP is now blaming the trend ... But it seems that now there is a natural selection ... Who can’t cope .... Those were not chosen ....

Mordvin also rustled not childishly, by the way the road and the bridge of his merits and the people were delighted with him. But a year passed and the mood in society changed dramatically and the one whom they recently praised began to accuse of all sins.

[Alf]

Quote: private person

and the people were delighted with him.

Until he found out the amount of loans that the foreigner had grabbed.

[private person]

So the World Cup is not cheap fun and they like to steal in Samara like everywhere else in Russia.

[Altona]

Quote: Graz

edro tired of everything, in the vast majority of provincial cities, at best, complete stagnation, all municipal property seized and plundered by the smallest creeping into city councils

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People cried so much with the managers of housing and communal services. There were normal offices, not without flaws of course, but they had equipment and a staff of workers. Now there are almost 5 locksmiths for the whole city, before so many areas were served. And so it is in everything, optimization and commercialization all around. And from the posters only United Russia. Even the poster for May 9 and that one with their logo manage to fool.

[fif21]

You have to pay for everything. And for pension reform, too.

[Altona]

Quote: tatra

The CPSU improved the life of the people, and United Russia only worsens

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The social program of the USSR was very good, only the ruling circles began to degenerate and forgot how to manage. Under the USSR there were also many shortcomings. This is long-term, when money was thrown into large projects and forgotten, loans were taken from the state bank, which then could not be repaid. And the expensive imported equipment was rotting under the snow. There were flaws and then, Brezhnev even pointed this out. Although he was dilapidated by the end of his reign, he did not break away from the people. Kosygin could not then implement his reform to improve economic management and the introduction of normal indicators of economic activity. But the social system itself, where there were health centers, dispensaries, children's camps was normal. Of course, everything needed improvement, but the person did not feel abandoned — a hostel, education, work, medical care could be obtained.

[Alf]

Quote: Altona

The social program of the USSR was very good, only the ruling circles began to degenerate and forgot how to manage. Under the USSR, too, there were many shortcomings.

But now it’s good, there’s everything. However, not all.

[vladcub]

Quote: renics

Yes, no one has any program, only unfulfilled promises of a populist sense. For which no one asks. Unlike the president, when he demands the implementation of his decrees from the regional authorities. They don’t care about people, they just bred their numerous business offices, recorded on dummies, and they spud off the State Budget of the Russian Federation.

So hilling up the state budget is more interesting and profitable, which is more significant

[Conductor]

Or maybe it’s a Kremlin move to relieve tension

[Стена]

Another HPP. To do this, they took away the victory from the Communist Party in Vladivostok, offered all sorts of carriages for candidates from the LDPR in Khabarovsk and Vladimir, in exchange for not participating in the second round, conducting searches in Khakassia in search of drugs. This power of swindlers and thieves will never want to experiment with the transfer of power to the opposition. And the president’s image, as a guarantee of success, no longer hypnotizes the population. People demand change in improving their lives.

[Altona]

Quote: Essex62

About nothing. The main thing is who is in the Kremlin and the State Duma. Yes, even if the "communist" won the elections to the governors, will he immediately abolish capitalism in his "province", nationalize private ownership of the means of production and mineral resources? Whoever gives it to him will sit down instantly.

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I agree, but at least there should be some movement, the process does not happen instantly. By the way, yesterday I watched a live broadcast of Real Journalism with Sergey Udaltsov. He is not such a radical revolutionary, he also does not want to slide into a civil war and wants the government to start a dialogue with the people, and not stupidly throw toxic laws into the people.

[Vadim237]

You only see the brains, he didn’t steal from you - they themselves leaked from the ears.

[vladcub]

Quote: Vard

Azarov defeated us in Samara ... And deservedly ... I don’t know how it will be ... But the last year has been rustling not childishly ... Roads ... Including the Frunze bridge ... Hospitals ... He supported the veterans. .. Communicating with the people ... I understand that EP is now blaming the trend ... But it seems that now there is a natural selection ... Who can’t cope .... Those were not chosen ....

You have a big +: "now there is natural selection." I have the impression that sometimes there are normal people among the eriks: yours Azarov and Poklonska. Our new governor is also, something is stirring, but I already look at him with suspicion: Edrik

[sgr291158]

In all likelihood, sunset EP begins. A party that has done nothing for the people.

[Romanenko]

What's so surprising? EP - party snickering oligarchs, unrestrained promises, anti-people’s laws, just forgot to rename

[Million]

I think that soon EP will cease to exist, and instead some new one will appear. But the faces in it will be all the same .....

[Mestny]

Quote: Bull Terrier

I have no idea what cities you are talking about, everything was normal in Ha. To exchange a stable Sport for an incomprehensible person, this will soon come back to everyone. Khan of new interchanges, Khan of Chinese investments, their Sport brought them here under their guarantees, Khan of Korean technology of the road which was pressed for 7 years. I’m 200 percent sure that they will allow the center to be built again, because today I saw the wild joy of the developers. But you have to come to terms, people made a choice

This is all then, then.
This only comes with time to all, without exception, ordinary fighters with the regime.
It is only in the heat of the rally struggle that it is necessary to yell that everything is bad.
Suddenly, suddenly it turns out that something was being done, and a lot. But we have to say goodbye to this - while the new government does not bite.

[Стена]

How smart you are, and the people who voted against this government are stupid. These people on their own skin and feel how you write "it turns out that something has been done, and a lot." Thanks to such lawyers from the authorities, it was possible to powder the brains of the population for a long time.

[K-612-O]

To begin with, the Liberal Democratic Party on the Far East is always very popular. Shport is not without complaints, of course, but I trust the engineer and the production worker more than the smuggler. I myself have lived enough in Khabar and often go there, for 8 years it has become just much better, one of the greenest and cleanest cities (even the Amur neighbors would not have poisoned). And Sport really did a lot for the region. Well, it seems to people that this will be better, we’ll see, suddenly, and this will work out.

[would]

Suddenly, suddenly it turns out that something was being done, and a lot

And don’t talk! Raising the retirement age, raising VAT, raising CTP, appropriating the funded part of the pension! To us, the people, this is already over the edge, and you liberals are doing more and more!

[K-612-O]

Duc themselves wanted in the 91st, and in the 96th no one excited. The USSR is over, but I don’t want to understand this. I’m talking about my funded part, that I don’t give a damn about insurance (in 30 years everything will change 10 times). I have children and there are savings that I have been thinking about for a long time. Yes, and you need to work, and not at work or at home to dream of retirement.

[Alf]

Quote: K-612-O

-1
Duc themselves wanted in the 91st,

Recall the results of the referendum on the preservation of the USSR?

Quote: K-612-O

I’m here about my funded part, that insurance doesn’t give a damn

And why then do you pay pension contributions, if, of course, you do not receive a gray salary?

Quote: K-612-O

I have children and there are savings that I have been thinking about for a long time.

Don’t worry, the authorities have already taken care of this. The other day, 30 deputies from EP (well, to doubt it) introduced a bill to the State Duma on child support from children for parental support.

[K-612-O]

Pension contributions are paid by the company, so for a moment, not me. And s / n I have fortunately white. And according to the latter: we are walking the road of communist China. In my opinion, the children themselves will decide where to put the money they earned, and I and I will somehow earn and accumulate money for myself and my wife.

[Alf]

Quote: K-612-O

Pension contributions are paid by the company, so for a moment, not me.

So write a statement to the account so that your contributions to the FIU are not transferred, since you do not expect to retire.

Quote: K-612-O

and I will somehow earn and accumulate for myself and my wife.

Are you going to work until the grave? So I dare to recall that the company will always find a way to get rid of a pensioner. And with the newly adopted laws banning the dismissal of the elderly, the factory lawyer will wipe .. well, you understand.

[reservist]

Quote: Alf

And with newly adopted laws banning the dismissal of the elderly, the factory lawyer will wipe ..

so they’ll just put it in front of them at 59, so as not to accidentally run into an article ...

[would]

And with the newly adopted laws banning the dismissal of the elderly, the factory lawyer will wipe .. well, you understand.

They are wiped by the Labor Code for a very, very long time. The easiest option is to offer a choice between "your own" and creating unbearable working conditions. My practice shows that most people choose the first one, preferring to leave quietly and without nerves. Only people with a special, I would even say quarrelsome character, for whom this is a matter of principle and to some extent competition, decide to fight with the employer.

And then people will be 60 and over 60 and health will no longer be suitable for wars at work.

[would]

Pension contributions are paid by the company, so for a moment, not me.

You would first understand the issue, and then write. The company, after deducting from your salary, puts money into your personal account and legally it is from and to yours, and not the enterprise. And from them the funded part of the pension should have been formed ... now it is gone. A significant part of the pension was taken from people, including you.

[Vadim237]

They didn’t take it away, but they are already paying it and will pay it to pensioners - today, because of the depreciation of savings and pensions in the early 90s, it turned out that now working people keep all their pensioners on their pension contributions - those who worked during the USSR, not only the state Every year, one trillion rubles are sent to the Pension Fund to cover the lack of funds.

[would]

And you don’t understand what you are writing about

Previously, the pension consisted of two parts: From the joint that you wrote about and from the funded that I wrote about. That is, part of the funds from pension accruals went to a person’s personal savings account and belonged only to him, invested in growth, could be inherited, they were intended to pay a pension only to him. The authorities advertised this and encouraged citizens to invest more in the funded. And then the bam and took her from those citizens to whom she belonged.

http://www.pfrf.ru/branches/belgorod/info/~Gragdanam/3592

https://ria.ru/society/20171220/1511343340.html

[rotmistr60]

For Khabarovsk residents, such a gap in the percentage ratio between Furgal and the current governor Shport is certainly surprising. Many expected the incumbent to lose, but not with such a devastating lag. For the "cell" of the United Russia in the Khabarovsk region, this is certainly a blow and not a weak one. It is necessary to work for the good of the region and its inhabitants, and not hide behind the attitude towards the party and administrative resources.

[would]

The elections in Khabarovsk reminded me of an anecdote about how football players lost to mannequins. Furgal is what is called a "technical candidate", according to the directors of the pseudo-election he had to lose. But the liberal reforms carried out by the liberal authorities angered the population to such an extent that they began to vote on the basis of the principle "Anyone just not United Russia". And then the news broke out about the falsification of elections in Primorye and the typical justifying bleating of the authorities, which angered the people even more. And in the second round everything was a foregone conclusion. The Liberal Democratic Party could put a monkey in the elections and she would have defeated Shport in the same way, and would have gained even more votes than Furgal.

Even in spite of Furgal's epic "cross-fire" (which was clearly planned by the directors), his absolutely no program, the activation of Edrossov political strategists, the drive of state employees and the military.

A logical question arises: if edra has such a rating, even taking into account falsifications, then what is Putin's real rating?

[Стена]

Since on the eve of the March 18 elections, the pocket VCIOM allegedly conducted a poll, which in fact gives out the control figures of the Presidential Administration for the electoral commissions, the GDP rating was 65-69%, and the expected turnout was 60%. But you need to keep in mind that these 65-69% are at least 20% of the administrative resource. In the elections, according to the election commissions, the GDP received 76% - this is the result of the fact that the local authorities overdid it, well, the turnout came out more than expected. In total, we have a GDP rating of about 50% on the eve of the elections. For post-election "improvements" his rating has lost somewhere around 15%. The GDP rating is currently about 35%

[Evil 55]

Good news, wonderful news ...))

[Altona]

Quote: Mestny

This only comes with time to all, without exception, ordinary fighters with the regime.
It is only in the heat of the rally struggle that it is necessary to yell that everything is bad.
Suddenly, suddenly it turns out that something was being done, and a lot. But we have to say goodbye to this - while the new government does not bite.

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Are the entire population "fighters against the regime"? Here the electorate from United Russia recoiled and voted for the ultra-right, for the fascist party of Zhirinovsky, although it may have wanted to vote for the Reds. This is what United Russia has achieved, thanks to her.

[Стена]

So LDPR is the darker side of the EP.

[K-612-O]

The far right ?! Well, well, the Liberal Democratic Party before the nationalists, as before China with cancer.

[would]

In what place can the party led by Eidelstein be fascist?

[Altona]

Quote: rait

A logical question arises: if edra has such a rating, even taking into account falsifications, then what is Putin's real rating?

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According to polls on websites, about 47-51% comes out. United Russia has about 23%.

[igor1981]

It is a pity the governors from the Communist Party did not become the heads of these regions.

[shura7782]

Quote: igor1981

It is a pity the governors from the Communist Party did not become the heads of these regions.

Orlova tried to prevent this from happening. As a result, Maxim Shevchenko did not pass the municipal filter. He sued, but time passed.

[Alf]

Quote: shura7782

Orlova tried to prevent this from happening.

An interesting moment sounded today from a zombie creator.
In several regions, the elections were won by representatives of the Liberal Democratic Party, the losing governors congratulated them on their victory, but NEVER did they mention the losing party. "The Liberal Democratic Party candidate won the election, the losing candidate congratulated him on his victory."

[New Year day]

Quote: Alf

NEVER EVER mentioned a losing party.

polites, they keep the brand

[Nikolay Fedorov]

Quote: igor1981

It is a pity the governors from the Communist Party did not become the heads of these regions.

It is remarkable that the Communist Parties failed to bring their oligarchs into power. The oligarchs from the Communist Party would not fight the oligarchs from the EP. The people do not need oligarchs in power at all.

[shura7782]

I agree with the author that in our region they voted against EP. People are no longer interested in the LDPR program at the expense of the program. On the eve of the re-election, messengers from United Russia came with agitation. Interpreted. “There will be money from Moscow, then we'll see. There will be none, then they won’t do anything. The smaller the town, the less chance of a positive trend. ” That’s the whole story. About medicine. “There are no doctors because they fled to paid clinics.” The situation in schools ....... If you do not vote for Orlova, then in general you will have nothing.
It turned out that there was nothing to lose now, but there was hope.

[naidas]

I.V. Stalin: “What is the current Duma and what should be our attitude towards it? This is a meeting of deputies, which “has the right” to consult, but “does not have the right” to cross existing “fundamental laws”. The State Council oversees it, which “has the right” to annul any resolution of the Duma. And the tsarist government, armed from head to toe, is on guard, which “has the right” to disperse the Duma if it is not satisfied with the deliberative role ”[I.V. Stalin, v. 1, p. 260].

[Sergej1972]

It would be better if the representatives of the Communist Party would win.) The only thing that pleases is neither Furgal, nor Sipyagin, either in appearance or in the manner of communicating, reminiscent of typical Zhirinovites, and Zhirinovsky himself. As, however, the Smolensk governor from the LDPR Ostrovsky.

[Sergej1972]

It turns out that the Liberal Democratic Party will have two governors who won as a result of competitive elections, and the "contractual" Ostrovsky in the Smolensk region. The Communist Party of the Russian Federation, most likely, will add governors in Khakassia and the Primorsky Territory to the winner of the competition in Irkutsk Levchenko. Plus there is a "contract" Klychkov in the Oryol region. I think that Ostrovsky and Klychkov should be considered separately. Their hands are more tied. After all, they are not only representatives of the LDPR and the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, but in fact are supported by the local branches of the United Russia. The same position belongs to Burkov, the "contractual" governor of the Omsk Region, a fair Russia.

[ZVS]

This is a perfectly expected pattern. EP has long led the country to economic collapse in the interests of the country's oligarchic top. Squandering financial resources for entertainment, and not for the economy and science, failed projects and broken laws, there was and there is no infrastructure equal to the European one, roads remain in pits and patches, for with the exception of one that has been stuck in traffic for the past 18 years.

[Nikolay Fedorov]

Surprisingly, the EP party is gaining more than 2 percent after its cannibalistic pension reform. In the circle of my acquaintances, relatives, what I hear in vehicles, in shops, in the bathhouse, people call the deputies of EP no other than the words for which they banyate here, because it is a great powerful Russian mat and bunch of words.

[shura7782]

Similarly. The picture is the same throughout the country.

[romb]

They threw a bone in the form of a LDPR victory to create a smack of the existence of an alternative.

[Servisinzhener]

Won, well done. Now it’s up to small. Do not screw up.

[senima56]

It will be interesting to watch how "the rats will run from the ship"!

[shura7782]

Quote: senima56

It will be interesting to watch how "the rats will run from the ship"!

We are already observing how they reached from the EP to the LDPR.

[faterdom]

These four regions with gubernatorial elections are just a light pat on the shoulder of EP. Before the farewell kick in the next State Duma elections.
I think the voter can and should do just that.
And all the other "servants of the people" should, like the devil, shy away from their seat on the same hectare with this so-called "political party". Natalia Poklonskaya alone is free from the suspicion that she was looking for any benefit for herself in the EP.

[Reader]

In Tomsk, the representative of EP won. He scored 58%, they are only silent that the turnout is only 15-20%. Nobody believes, everyone scored.

[Vadim237]

And what of the fact that the turnout was 20%?

[senima56]

LDPR - bravo!