All holes are under control ... Who is responsible for the emergency with Soyuz?

Journalists inquired from the head of the Kremlin press service about the situation on the International Space Station and the danger to astronauts and astronauts from the very hole drilled in the plating of the Soyuz. Dmitry Peskov recommended journalists to address this question to the head of Roscosmos Dmitry Rogozin, and at the same time he added the following: “Everything is under control”.

Meanwhile, a special commission of Roskosmos at the moment has not been able to decide on the key version about the appearance of a hole from the drilling on the skin of the spacecraft and the traces of contact of the drill on the screen of the meteorite protection.

At the moment, two versions are being worked out. One: drilling on Earth (after the photographing process at RSC Energia), including the stage of delivery of the Soyuz to Baikonur. The second: drilling in space. The nature of drilling speaks in favor of the second version — traces are such when the process is carried out without an emphasis (for example, in a state of weightlessness). However, experts say that, perhaps, the one who drilled a hole in the skin of a spacecraft on Earth, consciously tried to pass off the drilling process as “cosmic”.

The proceedings are continuing.

The head of Roscosmos, Dmitry Rogozin, on Twitter the other day made an important note of the following nature:

The quality and reliability of technology depends on the quality and reliability of the people responsible for it.

It is difficult to disagree with this statement. The equipment can be as reliable as you like, but there may be people who, either because of ignorance or lack of proper skills, or by pursuing malicious intent, can even reliable machines and ships turn into a “sieve”.

Comments

[Corsair0304]

Provocation? A blow to the reputation of the "Union" as a reliable module.
I wonder what Roskosmos will answer, what versions will be presented. Well, if it becomes so dangerous for amers to fly on our "Soyuz" - let them massively buy slingshots from the dill, or turn to Han Solo for renting his "Millennium Falcon".

[Dimontius]

again .. stop the planet I will leave .. the plot is from some kind of space blockbuster. Man is a funny creature, aliens are probably very surprised

[Baloo]

I would not discount the version with aliens. UFO no one noticed?
Drilled on the ground, the stump is clear. In an emergency, who is the beneficiary of insurance? And not too many emergency situations in Roscosmos?

[Serge Gorely]

Quote: Balu

I would not discount the version with aliens. UFO no one noticed?
Drilled on the ground, the stump is clear. In an emergency, who is the beneficiary of insurance? And not too many emergency situations in Roscosmos?

No, ent is not a UFO. Damned GMO. Panimash appeared, gmoshnye worms and moths, and that’s what they eat!

[Thrall]

The version with aliens looks the most promising.
Dmitry Rogozin may even interrogate suspects personally within the galaxy. Only hatches in a spaceship need to be made wider

[Million]

Rogozin must have drilled.

[Dezinto]

The version with aliens looks the most promising.

We must offer the aliens to come in person and give an interview to some of our media ... let them tell why they appeared on the ISS and drilled holes or did not drill holes in it ......
Most likely they will say that they just flew to visit the famous station of earthlings

[Baloo]

Quote: DEZINTO

Most likely they will say that they just flew to visit the famous station of earthlings

And the owners were inhospitable ...

[BVS]

They ALREADY turned to Ilon Mask.

[aristok]

Quote: bvs

They ALREADY turned to Ilon Mask.

and he drove them?

[Sands Careers General]

I got drunk and took it all the way to the Alpha Centauri system))

[Kunica]

Well, that is not mined.

[210ox]

This is all like sabotage .. Yes, and losses during launches in recent years suggest this idea.

[_Kotegpushisteg_]

Yes, these are new Russian technologies! Churbais advised Rogozik! Nanotechnological holes to improve aerodynamics not recognized so that the privacy regime is not violated

[engineer74]

Do not confuse warm with soft! This is SOVIET technology! For reference, the Americans also had two holes, and both times they declared national mourning. And about the hole in the Union, only laugh on the Internet. Feel the difference!

[_Kotegpushisteg_]

and now that you need to cry a lot? Soviet technology flew and I must say perfectly and Rogozin’s mostly fall

[engineer74]

It is not the "Rogozinsky" people who are falling, but our general professional level, they have spawned menagers - lawyers - now we are eating.

[astepanov]

Quote: engineer74

It is not the "Rogozinsky" people who are falling, but our general professional level, they have spawned menagers - lawyers - now we are eating.

By the way, Rogozin is a doctor of technical sciences. Everyone understands perfectly well that he is the same "doctor" as a bullet from manure, since he has no technical education and did not have, but everyone keeps quiet. This leads to sad thoughts that hypocrisy and corruption have sprouted through and through. Whatever wonderful technologies you use, but if such a mummer is at the helm, nothing good will ever come. He is clearly not Korolev, not Glushko, not Yangel and not Chelomey. And why the specialists disappeared from the management, but there is such an object, for the naming of which there are no censorship terms, I do not understand.

[Alex Justice]

Beria had no education, but he coped with the job perfectly. Ruined first-class manager.

[Waldemar]

Stalin had an incomplete seminary education, and read more books than all the commentators under the article. And the "manager" he was even more effective. He knew not only how, but why and why. And he knew how to delve into the essence of the matter so that very few people are given. It's a pity there is no him The scraps of all sorts of scum would fly with a whistle. In 12 months everything would work like clockwork

[astepanov]

Quote: Alex Justice

Beria had no education

But no; Beria had precisely a technical education - although not a higher one, but in any case he was incommensurably more literate than the fake "doctor" Rogozin. And he achieved results, but did not push his ignorant sons to the top, he did not build apartments and mansions for himself.

[Karenius]

Quote: astepanov

Quote: Alex Justice

Beria had no education

But no; Beria had precisely a technical education - although not a higher one, but in any case he was incommensurably more literate than the fake "doctor" Rogozin. And he achieved results, but did not push his ignorant sons to the top, he did not build apartments and mansions for himself.

And here it is not !!!
He did not build mansions for himself, since the ready ones had already been confiscated with the vile rolling into the asphalt of the previous owners. He stole their diamonds too.
He joined the nuclear program when Pervukhin and G.B. Hovakimyan had already prepared everything, putting them out the door in order to attribute fame to themselves. (when someone and Pervukhina accuses him of signing charges against the IVS - let him know that he was the most daring in opposing L.P. B)
One word is a cross between a hyena and a jackal, as Joseph Vissarionovich designated it.

[NIKN]

The press came across an inexhaustible topic. I don’t know what to suck here, just wait for conclusions, and most importantly take measures to prevent such incidents.

[Thrall]

Everything lies on the surface. It was the Russians who drilled a hole to distract the world community from the poisoning of Europe by the Novice

[Blackmokona]

This is a blatant lodge; there is no American toilet on the ISS. All toilets are Russian and everything is served by Russia. That is, only she is responsible for their work
Also, the station modules are not hermetically separated in the normal mode, and thus everyone breathes the same air and the smells are common. Do not let someone into the toilet, it's a shit to yourself

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: BlackMokona

This is a blatant lodge; there is no American toilet on the ISS. All toilets are Russian and everything is served by Russia. That is, only she is responsible for their work

MOSCOW, July 3 - RIA Novosti. NASA has ordered maintenance and replacement of a number of toilet elements on the American segment of the International Space Station from the Russian Rocket and Space Corporation Energia, the corporation said in its annual report.

RIA Novosti https://ria.ru/science/20180703/1523845860.html

It turns out that before that they did not serve. Although there are misunderstandings.

[Blackmokona]

Just updated the contract

“During the year, the contract with NASA continued to be fulfilled, which provides for the manufacture and supply of ACS & C elements (sewer device and cockpit. - Ed.) For the American segment of the International Space Station and related integration services for the ISS. Nine stages within the framework of previously issued orders, "the document says.

It is noted that as a result of a series of negotiations held in 2017, the Russian corporation received new orders under this contract. "The work under this contract for a number of years has made it possible to maintain the efficient operation of the American segment of the ISS and the station as a whole, promptly fend off emergency situations, and also ensure a stable workload for the corporation's divisions and related enterprises," the annual report says.

The links that you yourself give need to read further than the title

[Mordvin 3]

Yeah, only infa about this appears a month later, after the crew was in orbit.
"The publication" Kommersant ", citing sources close to the special commission investigating the incident, reports that the main version for today is the deliberate damage to the" Union "by one of the American astronauts."
In general, I won’t be surprised that it was so. I also recalled the scandal when the US astronaut ran with a knife and a gun for her groom's mistress. And the version of the deputy of the astronaut from the same series.

[Blackmokona]

What about infa? About the contract, the news that you dropped was before the incident.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: BlackMokona

The news you dropped was before the incident.

And when did the incident happen? When did Americans drown in feces? After the commander started yelling about the immediate evacuation, but ours refused? In general, we remain with different opinions, officially no one will tell us anything.

[Blackmokona]

How could they drown in feces? Every time the toilet breaks, all the media talk about it.
Did the Americans announce evacuation? There has never been such news.

[Waldemar]

There's still GERMAN on board

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: BlackMokona

The links that you yourself give need to read further than the title

And I read. Therefore, I did not understand why the info appeared on the 3 of July.

[ALEX_SHTURMAN]

Santa Barbara If this is true, it must be announced to the whole world! No fucking cover for these striped ghouls! Let everyone see what arrogant and stupid "comrades" they are.

[The Siberian barber]

Your story made me a day!
Everything happens in life))
It would be really great if this turned out to be really true!))

[Chertt]

Quote: Galleon

For what I bought. )))

In my opinion, the most believable version

[Watson J.]

The quality and reliability of technology depends on the quality and reliability of the people responsible for it.

This is exactly what Ragozin wrote. And that's about it. It seems to me that it was wildly unlucky in my life, but I did not meet among them high-quality human material. Bruce Willis

[Baloo]

Quote: Galleon

Everything is in miniature for you ... and "take away our (feces) after us" and "take our woman at your own expense, she’s gone bad" "A.a.a. don’t want to? Then we’ll sanction (cross out) you’ll scroll a hole, then you will take the cute ones! ”

In short, everything is clear. We decided to air the ship. Realistically, there is nothing to argue.
A woman on a ship, besides an American, is not good. Even if the spaceship. In short, I propose to equip crews with either peasants or grannies.

[Alex66]

In general, the version is laconic and logical, quite believable, but ours would have let the Americans into their toilet, especially a woman, and would not have allowed Rogozin to order, after the slander of the Americans.

[bessmertniy]

An interesting topic: holes - are discussed, holes - are commented, holes are not allowed to sleep by those responsible for not having them. Holes of the past and holes of the future. The transition of holes from a smaller state to large ones, overgrowing of holes and their artificial closing. Poetry and novels can be written about holes. And some of them just do it like once a man who stole crutches on the railway.

[voyaka uh]

The version of drilling in space was rejected.
The article is a bit outdated.

[Flatter]

How long has the Soyuz been docked? When the holes were discovered, from the first trip to the toilet or later? Answers are probably already known.

[sogdy]

Quote: voyaka uh

The version of drilling in space was rejected.

Vascheta, Rogozin gave the command to shut up everyone and listen to syudy. Until the elders agree.
The topic of drilling in space is not interesting as it is self-evident - you cannot strain safety, you cannot “build” technical control.
But the issue of separation of modules is already being worked out ...

[Vadim237]

What's next - a crack in the heat shield.

[Blackmokona]

when the process is carried out without emphasis

Nezavisimost does not interfere in any way rest against anything, on the contrary facilitates this matter. Since it is easy to abut against a wall or ceiling, which is difficult to do on Earth

[Sands Careers General]

Under the conditions of microgravity (and not weightlessness), it is extremely difficult to drill at a certain angle if you are not insured from behind, because the force of action is equal to the force of reaction.

[Blackmokona]

On the ISS, a special tool, not an ordinary one. Which compensates for such moments

[sogdy]

Quote: BlackMokona

when the process is carried out without emphasis

Nezavisimost does not interfere in any way rest against anything, on the contrary facilitates this matter. Since it is easy to abut against a wall or ceiling, which is difficult to do on Earth

You do not draw? It will be very funny, especially with the number of stops.

[zlinn]

the household compartment of the "Union" is very cramped, there it is easy to resist than not to do this

[sogdy]

Quote: zlinn

am easy to push than not to do it

These are the laws of physics: counteraction to movement (emphasis) translates torque into translational motion. That is, an attempt to gain ground will lead to Brownian motion. A counter rotor is used.

Yes, by the way, what kind of humanities are there minus? Also great abstraction virtualizers?

[Terenin]

The original interim conclusion of the commission, as I understand it, was drilled - either ours or others! You can’t argue here

[Lycan]

However, they missed self-formation of holes due to the singularity of the flows of the air-hydrogen sulfide mixture while maintaining a permanent vortex by the body structure and the vacuum from the outside. parties - in this location.

[Baloo]

Quote: Lycan

However, they missed self-formation of holes due to the singularity of the flows of the air-hydrogen sulfide mixture while maintaining a permanent vortex by the body structure and the vacuum from the outside. parties - in this location.

Everything is clear, separatist holes.

[Ros 56]

Debriefing ahead, so: not nada tarapisa, not nada wave.

[Jack O'Neill]

As a colonel of the Air Force who participated in the research program of extraterrestrial worlds (SG-1) - I declare: this is a sabotage operation of the false God Anubis!
Currently, X-304 Daedalus is orbiting the Moon to prevent the Goa'uld invasion.

[Baloo]

Quote: Jack O'Neill

As a colonel of the Air Force who participated in the research program of extraterrestrial worlds (SG-1) - I declare: this is a sabotage operation of the false God Anubis!

I knew .... Aliens are everywhere. It looks like they have already captured America, and now they are also mastering Kiev. What to do, where to run? Plan to stock up on matches and salt.

[Jack O'Neill]

I knew .... Aliens are everywhere. It looks like they have already captured America, and now they are also mastering Kiev. What to do, where to run? Plan to stock up on matches and salt.

With a burner, a burner!

[l7yzo]

The thickness of the walls touched me with "on the screen of anti-meteorite protection." only 4-5 mm separates astronauts from space.

[sogdy]

Quote: l7yzo

only 4-5 mm separates the astronauts from space

there was so much left to drill if one of the humanitarian gifted did not understand.

Quote: l7yzo

wall thickness

thickness?

[Faceless]

I hope this space woodpecker is still tracked down and caught, planted in a proper earth cage.

[sogdy]

Quote: Faceless

I hope this space woodpecker is still tracked down and caught,

if, after all, it will still be our descent vehicle - where will he go from Siberia.

[Faceless]

it is also necessary to establish its habitat, suddenly it is much wider than the ISS, and it also covers a couple of factories with a spaceport. So far, there is no doubt only that if it is a woodpecker (or flyer), then it is definitely a space one.

[beeper]

Drilled on the spot in space. IMHO.
Now I see that the wall is not titanium at all, but "luminous".
Typically, aluminum alloys are drilled with a sharper, in plan, angle at the apex than for drilling steels.
But here they drilled at an angle (and without punching, or preliminary drilling of a recess or a drilling jig), and therefore, "according to the mind", they sharpened the bit much "dumber" than usual, so that it "hooked" onto the casing itself. Probably somewhere under 160 ° at the top, since traces of skid are clearly visible on the plating of precisely such sharp edges of the cutting edges of a rotating (about 400-500 rpm, no less) drill.
Yes, and in the hole of a soft aluminum part, such a sharpening angle (especially if the drill was sharpened insufficiently qualified, a little asymmetrical along the axis of the drill and the angle of the cutting edges!), At such revolutions and uneven manual feed, it forms such an uneven stepped inner surface as on the enlarged a photograph.

[Wilderness]

Was it a "feather" or "crown" drill? Or even some kind of cutter (what do astronauts usually use there?) Otherwise, the drill will not "bite" at such an angle without punching or a template / controller. Regarding the uneven inner surface - I agree, I will add - perhaps the revolutions were less than optimal, when drilling at an angle, the drill also wedges.

[Peter Ivanov]

And where were the valiant Russian cosmonauts at the same time? Did you go into space in a convenience store for fresh cuttings and a bottle of "White"? Or were you sleeping - under the influence of miraculous drugs?

[Samara_63]

Let the special commission of Roscosmos address all questions to the previous leaders of Roscosmos! How did they bring the CPK to the "Pen"? Why was everything that was gained during the USSR lost there?

[Peter Ivanov]

So it is only in the great N.V. Gogol that the non-commissioned widow whipped herself! And these and "Phobos-soils" dropped for a small share - to cut the insurance type!

[The poor man]

It is necessary to check the presence of shavings inside the spacecraft and the air-cleaning system, the presence of traces of metal in the hull and anti-meteor shield on the drills on board the ISS. All drills, the diameter of the drilled hole, must be delivered to Earth for analysis. Then it will be clear where they drilled, and the refusal of the Americans from this procedure will mean an unconditional confirmation of their involvement in the damage to our "Union MS-09".

[zlinn]

And why did it have to be drilled in space, what could have been achieved with this?

[Baloo]

Quote: zlinn

And why did it have to be drilled in space, what could have been achieved with this?

They wanted to ventilate, there were no window leaves, the designers did not think.

[Peter Ivanov]

Well, like ... I wanted fresh air !!!!

[AID.S]

Quote: Poor man

Need to check

send investigators and special forces, interrogate the astronauts, search the station, find an American broom with which the chips were swept. Then a fair trial and exchange for Butin.
You can still push the station into London with Progress. The automatic type has refused.

[Operator]

They were drilled in space, definitely - there are no traces of sealant in the drilling area, i.e. the air leak began immediately after the hull was sealed, and the Soyuz TPK has been in orbit since 6 June 2018.

Most likely, the roof went to the astronaut Serina Aunyon-Chancellor, a doctor by profession, who does not have skills in working with power tools - hormonal background, such days

[AID.S]

Quote: Operator

Chancellor

With such a surname it is no wonder to fly off the coils. Yes, there is still a feeling that the last name is a mistake.

[Baloo]

Quote: AID.S

Quote: Operator

Chancellor

With such a surname it is no wonder to fly off the coils. Yes, there is still a feeling that the last name is a mistake.

From women with such a face, even a child will cry. And our man-eagles were not afraid to fly into space.
Guys, I'm proud of you!

[Andrey VOV]

In those days, for such wrecking, the heads would have literally flown off in the truest sense of the word ... and the holes would have been in the foreheads

[naidas]

the unconscious locksmith is to blame - does not want to work for workdays.

[pexotinec]

We must blame the American as they are for us

[Gnefredov]

It's a shame to tears that there is no more our "Buran". They would take the Soyuz out of orbit and study the problem on the ground in a calm atmosphere. Obviously, in orbit, a fragment of the ship cannot be cut out from the utility compartment (BO).

PS In general, a wild story. We need to have our own station, so that if we only blame ourselves, otherwise with such an "international" in orbit, you don't know what to think

[Peter Ivanov]

The capitalists of the Russian Federation do not need a station !!!

[solovald]

Laughter laughing, but the number of emergency situations is not in our favor ... As the classic says - "... Something has rotted in the Danish state ...".

[Peter Ivanov]

So did I understand that, they say, the capitalists have everything under control and in order ?! The nut and that will not be carried away !!!

[Peter Ivanov]

Manned astronautics in the Russian Federation - has died! All the endgame! Delivery of the Yankees to the American ISS ... the only thing left! Maybe this drilling is the last, demobilization chord of the Russian cosmonautics - died without being born !?

[Peter Ivanov]

And what if .... the Soyuz apparatus .... CHANGED? Well, when ours arrived and docked at the station ... they began to sleep soundly !!! Here and ... the enemies, our good spacecraft stole and the useless slipped ,,, holes!