Savanna Murder: Lessons and Implications

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Wars on earth have been, are and will be. Humanity cannot do without it. And in wars there are always representatives of the “second oldest”. The war beckons them like the night light of moths. Some in the war earn their bread, others try to gain their popularity and fame. And those and others sometimes die. The death of every member of the media in Russia blows up the journalistic community. Various versions of death are put forward, mistakes made by the dead are analyzed: no one wants to step on those rakes that were fatal to their predecessors.

In the Central African Republic, a group of Russian journalists died, led by well-known in narrow circles Orhan Jemal. Having suffered an irreparable loss, the liberal public raised another howl. All the rest (illiberal) journalists (many of whom did not like Cemal) froze in mournful silence. Having, as it should be, a minute pause, we will try without anger and addiction to understand what happened.



Host country

It is difficult to find a more dangerous place than the CAR on planet Earth. Here a fierce intertribal war goes on for the fifth year, rivers of blood flow. Poverty is a record even by African standards. The government controls a maximum of a quarter of the territory. Three unarmed Europeans without protection from such a place can be returned only with great luck. She turned away from our fellow citizens.

Customer

The official customer of the voyage was a certain “Investigation Management Center”. This is not so much the media and not so the structure. This is a certain muddy project-centaur, existing at the expense of the former Zek, now the Londoner Mikhail Khodorkovsky. It is clear what it does: creating content about the “bloody and thieving Russian regime” and scattering it on social networks and other like-minded resources.

Savanna Murder: Lessons and Implications


Goal

As the correspondent of Komsomolskaya Pravda, Dmitry Steshin, aptly noted, “not a single media outlet in the world, living at the expense of readers and advertising, is interested in what is happening in the CAR. From the word "absolutely." Because it is absolutely not necessary for the readers themselves. ” It’s hard to disagree. Not the most popular among tourists country. Not Thailand and not the Bahamas.

But the one who pays is the one who orders the music. In our case - the topic of reporting. She was predictable and uncomplicated. The journalists were ordered to dig up a compromising material about the PMC Wagner. For in the republic (which the Foreign Ministry of Russia officially announced in March), in agreement with the government, 5 military and 170 civilian instructors from Russia are working. They are engaged in the training of local army personnel - by the way, in agreement with the relevant committee of the UN Security Council. This is a worldwide practice. American instructors teach the military in Georgia, Ukraine, the Baltic States. Also for the money. And no one calls them "Uncle Sam's mercenaries." Such a job. Yes, specific, perhaps not honorable, but according to the sovereign's order and very well paid. These Russian instructors were needed “for the picture”. Moreover, in the republic they didn’t hide from anyone in particular. They were supposed to pass off as bloody mercenaries. The rest is a matter of camera equipment and the author’s fantasy. The concept is already there, it remains only to fit the "cutting frames" under it. What the journalists and went.

Security

The security of journalists "customer", apparently, did not think for a second. For in the scheme declared by him the performers were initially considered as a “consumable”. Even their motivation (and she could be quite sincere) was not interesting for him. If something happens to them, it will be even better: simple fighters of the information war can be reformatted into “victims of the struggle.” And this is again a quote, a new reason to remind of myself, to accuse the “bloody regime”, etc. You can even demand new financial trenches from their curators - on the altar of the war, which takes the lives of "comrades".

According to Steshyn, journalists in this history "At first they threw in, and then they exchanged." True, the journalists themselves are far from children. It is necessary to understand all the same when you play and when you play. You cannot agree to any offers, especially coming from odious personalities, if you have at least an elementary instinct of self-preservation and you do not consider yourself to be "consumable", of course.

Trip design

Journalists entered the CAR illegally. They had a “otvodnjak” with them - press cards of the federal and absolutely pro-government newspaper “Izvestia”. As it quickly turned out, Izvestia about “its” correspondents sent to Africa is not a dream. But in the country - for a moment - there is a civil war in the most active phase. And it was decided to use false documents solely as a pass to the combat zone. In such cases, in Asia, they immediately recall the saying: "These guys initially crookedly mounted a horse." True, the official representatives of the LRC immediately after the murder with enviable efficiency put forward a new version of the African voyage, trying to “straighten the landing” in hindsight: “The guys just went to make a film about Africa.” Reinforced concrete argument. Even a newborn mouse knows that a former convict, an oligarch and a London fugitive, Khodorkovsky, is sponsoring a video exclusively about zebras, elephants, cockatoo and hippos.

Further. All those killed in the Central African Republic issued their entry as a tourist. Neither they nor the organizers of their trip have notified the Russian Foreign Ministry or the Russian embassy in the republic about this voyage. About this in the air of the TV channel "Russia 24" said the official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry Maria Zakharova. The dead did not even have passports with them, which complicated the identification procedure. There were only expired certificates of media representatives 2011 year of release. According to Zakharova, the Foreign Ministry still does not have a clear understanding of how they got there and who is responsible for their stay in a belligerent country.

The “crooked horse” of the African voyage began to poodle right away. Everything went wrong from the start. On the eve of the death of journalists were detained for conducting illegal shooting. Local authorities officially warned them that they were leaving the security zone controlled by the legitimate government. And later it turned out that the Wagner’s seekers did not go at all to where the Russian specialists are based.

Errors

According to Vladimir Vorozhtsov, a well-known specialist in journalistic circles in the field of conflict management and extreme situations, in this case, the dead journalists unfortunately violated the basic rules for staying in hot spots and places of local wars, which, like the military charter, are written in blood.

Any more or less experienced journalist who worked in hot spots, like “Our Father” should know, observe and carry out the following steps in preparing his voyage:

1. Definition of routes of movement and movement of the group (the main and several spare).

2. The choice of location, stops, meetings with local residents and military personnel.

3. Selection of vehicles.

4. Organization of safety and security.

5. Misinformation and prevention of a potential adversary.

6. Sometimes it is very productive to “tie” the film crew to one of the divisions of the opposing sides.

These basic safety principles are not allowed to violate the most experienced journalists who have experienced fire, water and hot spots. None of them was fully observed by the Jemal group.

The circumstances of the death of the group, alas, are very typical. According to Vladimir Vorozhtsov, the group clearly did not have a clear plan for the trip, a thoughtful schedule of movements, competent organization and the minimum level of security. A driver who escaped during the attack, who is also a conductor, also a translator, he is a security guard, is very suspicious. Practice and life experience show that, if the conductor or driver from the local “happily escapes” during the death of the escorted, he can fully qualify for the title of accomplice. It was this man who, the day before the shooting, transferred to journalists the demands of the local police officers, who simply extorted a bribe from them in 200 dollars. The amount has been paid. After that, the chain of “interested persons” sent information about a group of “rich Buratino” who drove into the country with no one and nothing protected. And they had with them, as it turned out, eight and a half thousand dollars in cash. The amount by local standards is simply unreal, astronomical one. That, perhaps, led the murderers to radical measures.

Afterword

Neutralize the group of Jemal, of course, could for various reasons. Including "for sneakers," as suggested by journalists. But it is painfully suspicious obvious sacrality of the victim. If the authors of the information veil succeed in imposing their version of the version on public opinion (“they only tried to find out the truth”), then everything will again come down to the fact that “the bloody regime and Putin personally” are to blame.

The well-known Spanish writer Perez-Reverte once said: “In any war, sooner or later, a journalist turns from a descriptor of victories into a dangerous and unnecessary witness.”

In this story, the first stage has not been completed. Immediately came the second ...
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  1. +20
    3 August 2018 05: 10
    Carrying the sum of $ 8500 and not hiring ten people for $ 300 is either greed or stupidity.
    1. +11
      3 August 2018 05: 33
      Everyone who knows Khodor thinks that all this was planned in advance ... But something did not grow together and the charge of the murder of this trinity of Russia has not yet been brought ... But it’s not yet evening ..
      1. +6
        3 August 2018 07: 40
        Quote: Vard
        Everyone who knows Hodor thinks that this was all planned in advance ...

        Not a fact, but now he will try to use this tragedy in full. He has enough "corpse eaters" who will inflate this tragedy in every possible way, in their interests
        1. +9
          3 August 2018 08: 44
          former convict, and now Londoner Mikhail Khodorkovsky

          He’s even served honestly! But what do the rest of the Deripaska, Usmanov, and Abramovich do at large? After all, they could all be put on the same charges. It turns out, the short-sightedness of Hodor, only in one thing - he set the wrong horses! He lay down in the West, but it was necessary to drown for Putin ... You look at this hour would build bridges and stadium arenas, would receive state awards, and not deadlines in the zone.
          1. 0
            3 August 2018 09: 50
            American instructors train the military in Georgia, Ukraine, the Baltic states. Also for the money. And no one calls them "uncle Sam's mercenaries."

            And who are they if not Uncle Sam’s mercenaries? Entomologists passing through Sumatra?
            Ub.lyudki they who create grief for the Russian people.

            After all, there is no war without politics. Military commanders are part of politics. Each side of the conflict has its own truth.

            War brings death. Sorry for the journalists.
            1. +7
              3 August 2018 11: 17
              Thank you for the article! Very understandable for readers and productively politically-professionally written by a journalist!
          2. +8
            4 August 2018 11: 59
            Now I’ll pay for a sentence about honesty. He did not serve, he was pardoned, for those who were in an armored train, he "honestly served" for the murder of the mayor of Nefteyugansk? Did your family help? How did you get it with the "bad Putin". So kiss Hodor in the ass?
        2. +1
          4 August 2018 11: 32
          Quote: svp67
          Quote: Vard
          Everyone who knows Hodor thinks that this was all planned in advance ...

          Not a fact, but now he will try to use this tragedy in full. He has enough "corpse eaters" who will inflate this tragedy in every possible way, in their interests

          That's right Sergey! This tribe will avenge Russia and tough! Broke them off in profits and power ..

          But their followers are in all cells of our country and are waiting in the wings!
          The stakes are too high .. May Putin fill up
      2. dSK
        +5
        3 August 2018 08: 12
        Quote: Vard
        Everyone who knows Hodor

        Mikhail Borisovich Khodorkovsky (1963). 1997-2004 was a co-owner and head of the Yukos oil company. Arrested by Russian authorities on charges of embezzlement and tax evasion on October 25, 2003. At the time of his arrest, he was one of the richest people in the world; his fortune was estimated at $ 15 billion. After his release, he settled with his family in Switzerland, where he received a residence permit. December 7 2015 years, the Investigative Committee of Russia presented in absentia to Khodorkovsky Prosecution in the criminal case of the murder of the mayor of Nefteyugansk, Vladimir Petukhov, committed in 1998. According to data for 2016, he constantly lives in London. / wikipedia./

        Hodor thinks that in England he will avoid the fate of another criminal "talent" from Russia - Boris Abramovich Berezovsky (1946), - scientist-mathematician, physicist, author of a number of scientific works and monographs, doctor of technical sciences (1983), professor, politician, who was followed by a chain of unsolved murders.
        1. jjj
          +1
          3 August 2018 12: 23
          Quote from dsk
          Hodor thinks that in England he will avoid the fate of another criminal “talent” from Russia - Boris Abramovich Berezovsky

          Against the backdrop of the "Skripals case", work on Khodorkovsky is a very winning option for the West
          1. dSK
            +1
            3 August 2018 15: 14
            Quote: jjj
            Against the background of the "case of Skripals

            Berezovsky "shut up" MI-5.
          2. +2
            4 August 2018 10: 02
            Quote: jjj
            Quote from dsk
            Hodor thinks that in England he will avoid the fate of another criminal “talent” from Russia - Boris Abramovich Berezovsky

            Against the backdrop of the "Skripals case", work on Khodorkovsky is a very winning option for the West

            It’s not yet evening ... And according to Berezovsky, he wanted to change shoes, wanted to fall at Putin’s feet, bringing with him a lot of interesting things .. For which he was indicatively executed .. To other rats science ..
          3. +3
            4 August 2018 15: 03
            Quote: jjj
            Against the backdrop of the "Skripals case", work on Khodorkovsky is a very winning option for the West

            Which, in principle, was the main goal of the "business trip."
            First was the "Babchenko affair." Not fused. Then the “godfather” ordered the “foreman” to send such “torpedoes” to the case, whose names sounded louder than the name of the “unshifted” in the expanses of Banderostan.
            Journalists who traveled to the Central African Republic were not naive whistleblowers of the Kremlin’s machinations, so it is surprising that they, who knew (or suspected) that they might meet them on not very hospitable land in central Africa, agreed to such an adventure. The presence in the "expedition" of such an odious figure as Orhan Cemal only strengthens the element of suspicion in the goals and methods of obtaining materials about the Russian PMC. To me personally, this motive seems to be a cover for another goal that the organizers of this trip sought.
            The victims do not look at simpletons sent “for slaughter” without any guarantee of cover, without a promise to pull them out of a difficult situation. But the customers had their own views on the fate of the business travelers: they will return with material - well - there will be something to present to the media; they will die at the “combat post” - it doesn’t matter either - another record will appear in the commemoration of the martyrs in the fight for someone's truth there.
            The land they rest in peace ...
            1. 0
              7 August 2018 16: 02
              There are Muslim insurgents, and Jemal decided to find a common Muslim language, he found insurgents, so the conversation did not take place, too different branches of faith in Allah professed ...
      3. +1
        3 August 2018 16: 53
        These are only my thoughts, but knowing some comrades, I can assume that it is a perfectly suitable version. These people were sent to continue demonizing the Russians. Not even Putin and Medvedev, namely the Russians. It was necessary to quickly shoot some kind of video clip with the Russians, it would be especially cool if they sent these "journalists" a little .. Well, then, either shelling, or better killing. The country is not calm and anything can happen. this was the focus. But unfortunately, the killing occurred prematurely. And right now, specially trained scribes have to rewrite manuals. But to come up with something more worthwhile does not work.
        And these are so sorry. Addicted to money, received - that’s what they prepared them for
    2. +1
      3 August 2018 05: 51
      Mb just dumbass.
      1. +8
        3 August 2018 06: 31
        We should expect whether the fingerprints of working in PMC Wagner, whether Putin himself at the site of the shooting of the ordered figures of liberalism.
    3. 0
      3 August 2018 07: 47
      Good article. Yes, but for some reason the cockatoo does not live in Africa. Khodarkovsky knows about this for sure. lol Anyway, vanging on the death of people is somehow not very decent. winked
      1. +11
        3 August 2018 08: 01
        sibiralto
        The liberals on the death of people rebuilt the prosecution of both Bolsheviks and Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin and their own careers. And nothing.
      2. +1
        3 August 2018 08: 30
        As for the cockatoo, my puncture, yes. But if you do not Wang - there will be new corpses.
      3. +7
        3 August 2018 11: 45
        Quote: siberalt
        Good article. Yes, but for some reason the cockatoo does not live in Africa. Khodarkovsky knows about this for sure.

        If the customer paid for the movie about the cockatoo in Africa - the cockatoo will live in Africa! laughing
        1. +3
          3 August 2018 15: 25
          But the truth. You can even bring him there. Price issue.
    4. +2
      3 August 2018 08: 12
      And then, and others. Squared. Chatterboxes always become the dunghill of history! Relatives of condolences. And the deceased considered themselves smarter than others - this is the result
    5. +1
      3 August 2018 11: 12
      Quote: Fungus
      Carrying the sum of $ 8500 and not hiring ten people for $ 300 is either greed or stupidity.

      Where is the guarantee that they did not hire this "guard" at the tip of their "driver-translator" and that she did not bang them?
      1. +8
        3 August 2018 14: 01
        every day, tens of thousands of innocent people die in the world. this "group of journalists" rode in search of "fried facts." the press, if not “yellow,” then a shade similar. I arrived. knew where they were going. here's something not sorry for them. "Do not go children to Africa for a walk ..." K. Chukovsky (c)
    6. 0
      3 August 2018 23: 40
      Quote: Fungus
      not to hire a ten-person guard for 300 $ is either greed or stupidity.

      You are either not aware of the rates of local normal security staff, or you think that hiring for a couple of hundred cu guard from 10 black bandits with Kalash, you will be protected ...
  2. +5
    3 August 2018 05: 26
    widely known in narrow circles

    Just pearl ..) And as if in the same style:
    From the very beginning it was clear - a muddy story.
  3. +6
    3 August 2018 06: 18
    From this story, another "Skripals affair" will be inflated
    1. +3
      3 August 2018 07: 41
      Quote: parusnik
      From this story, another "Skripals affair" will be inflated

      Not excluded
      1. +4
        3 August 2018 08: 36
        From this story, another "Skripals affair" will be inflated
        Yes, “ash stump”, that “Plan B” comes into play - an Anglo-Saxon information hysteria with the introduction of a bill to strengthen sanctions against Russia. According to the results of this company, all our “native” Ekhi and Rains receive not small doughs (they do not give a damn about dead journalists), but new anti-Russian adventures are calmly “baked” in accordance with the work plan. Yes
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          2. +1
            3 August 2018 17: 05
            The last phrase is very correct ..
  4. +1
    3 August 2018 06: 27
    As the correspondent of Komsomolskaya Pravda Dmitry Steshin aptly noted, “not a single media outlet in the world that lives off readers and advertising is interested in what is happening in the Central African Republic. From the word "completely." Because it’s absolutely not necessary for the readers themselves. ” It’s hard to disagree.
    Domestic media should be worried about what is happening in the Central African Republic, because there are Russian military advisers there. Not mercenaries, namely advisers and civilian personnel. These are our people. That's it, Dmitry Steshin.
    Responding to the relevant request of the President of the Central African Republic, the Russian side decided to provide military-technical assistance free of charge to Bangui. With the consent of the UN Security Council Committee 2127 from the presence of the Russian Ministry of Defense for the needs of the Central African army in late January - early February of this year. delivered a batch of small arms and ammunition. With the knowledge of this Committee, 5 military and 170 Russian civilian instructors were also sent there to train the military personnel of the Central African Republic.http: //www.mid.ru/ru/foreign_policy/news/-/as
    set_publisher / cKNonkJE02Bw / content / id / 3136399
    1. +2
      3 August 2018 11: 51
      Quote: Thunderbolt
      Domestic media should be worried about what is happening in the Central African Republic, because there are Russian military advisers there. Not mercenaries, namely advisers and civilian personnel. These are our people. That's it, Dmitry Steshin.

      We carefully read the words of Steshin:
      [quote} no media in the world, living off readers and advertising, not interested in what is happening in the CARs. From the word "completely." Because it is absolutely not necessary for the readers themselves [/ quote]
      Purely commercial media are only interested in how to make money. And 99,99% of their audience in the CARs do not care.
      But with commercial media, the range of media is not limited.
  5. +4
    3 August 2018 06: 55
    The fact that the story with a tragic end is muddy does not raise doubts. It’s muddy for the reason that the liberal media really almost immediately began to put forward their versions hinting at the involvement of, if not the Russian authorities, then some militarized Russian organizations. On the first day, Khodorkovsky blew out something trying to smear himself personally, but his like-minded people continued conspiracy theories sucked from the finger.
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      1. +6
        3 August 2018 10: 50
        will rub cotton wool about "liberalists" and "Obama". And cotton wool is waving.
        Whom do you refer to “cotton wool”? Who are you interested in? Svidomye the other day symbolically burned cotton wool hinting that it would be so with everyone who does not agree with them, and first of all with the Russians. If you are neglecting the Russian people, then at least do not write about it here.
      2. +2
        3 August 2018 11: 53
        Quote: Semen1972
        The people for them are a brainless herd, even making money on blood, will be rubbing cotton wool about “liberalists” and “Obama”. And cotton wool hawala ... the nightingale litter explains this.

        Minstets does not fall at all - writes under about "cotton wool" under white-blue-red. laughing
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          1. +4
            3 August 2018 15: 51
            By the way, it is very similar about Obama, although he is already retired. In Moscow, many different things live. Judging by your nightingale singing, it’s understandable whose water is the mill. Just be careful with colleagues from the 404th term borrow, the employer needs credibility
  6. +8
    3 August 2018 07: 03
    Guys, no matter how regrettable this thing sounded, but what happened, there is a consequence ... and the root cause, for good reason, a hodor (whom the devils were waiting for in hell and tired of heating pans) were relieved of their duties as a seamstress-mechanic ... ahead of schedule, paprashu notice. Show nobility and mercy? To whom, and to whom? In the end, we have what we have ... balabol hodor, which also craps for the shown mercy. Koba on these ghouls no
    1. +3
      3 August 2018 07: 18
      Quote: Shiva83483
      Show nobility and mercy? To whom, and to whom?

      His mother was sick. Very little son wanted to talk to her, so they released her in exchange for a promise not to engage in politics.
    2. 0
      5 August 2018 21: 46
      Quote: Shiva83483
      Guys, no matter how regrettable this thing sounded, but what happened, there is a consequence ... and the root cause, for good reason, a hodor (whom the devils were waiting for in hell and tired of heating pans) were relieved of their duties as a seamstress-mechanic ... ahead of schedule, paprashu notice. Show nobility and mercy? To whom, and to whom? In the end, we have what we have ... balabol hodor, which also craps for the shown mercy. Koba on these ghouls no

      Under Kobe and Putin would sit, do not you? laughing
      1. 0
        6 August 2018 06: 33
        not facht ... oh not facht ... I think that Koba would have found application to the Darkness, and to the benefit of the Motherland ... and this is not speculation, but a statement of fact
  7. +1
    3 August 2018 07: 10
    Most likely they were used blindly, and as soon as they realized that they were playing, they were simply multiplied by zero!
    1. +1
      3 August 2018 08: 32
      Exhaustive answer.
    2. +2
      3 August 2018 08: 40
      Everyone did what they wanted to do! And the organizer of this trip and the journalists! They are not a sacred victim. At least, taking all their conspiracy theories into account, they didn’t give a damn about the Russian official structures and the personality of the organizer of the order for the African fauna film! Wanted to take off a rare zebra ?! The zebra probably started to shoot! What is sacred here?
    3. +2
      3 August 2018 09: 07
      Quote: ANCIENT
      Most likely they were used blindly, and as soon as they realized that they were playing, they were simply multiplied by zero!

      Perhaps the promised fee has disabled the instinct of self-preservation.
  8. 0
    3 August 2018 09: 23
    If the Wagner PMC group is not in nature, then no one will give a penny for organizing a trip to the Central African Republic.
    And if there is one, then who protects it, who is the curator, who moves from point to point, who pays money, who provides weapons and ammunition?
    A hundred "who."
    And there is a reasonable suspicion that this “who” is a very influential figure. Most likely the most influential.
    Three journalists went for evidence.
    Does this influential "figure" need such a U-turn?
    After Syria, they barely calmed down, and then again.
    That's the whole deal.
    And Misha Khodorkovsky does what he was ordered to do - to demonize the regime and its leader.
    The fact that he discredited the entire US electoral system is a fact.
    And we don’t even have to prove it hi .
    But now we need to make a bloodthirsty monster out of our leader.
    And they will do it.
    If the order went, then it will be completed.
    The "newbie" has gone wrong?
    For us, no.
    And for the rest? Like good morning.
    So the day is not far off when some Wagnerian on camera will tell everything to everyone.
    You need to wait.
    1. +5
      3 August 2018 10: 00
      Quote: demo
      If the Wagner PMC group is not in nature, then no one will give a penny for organizing a trip to the Central African Republic.
      And if there is one, then who protects it, who is the curator, who moves from point to point, who pays money, who provides weapons and ammunition?

      We do not have PMCs, the law does not provide. There are a bunch of services and specialists that we will never know about, but they are in the sovereign service, and if in their activities they hide behind foreign or fictional PMCs (Wagner), then that’s how it should be.

      An anecdote was sent while writing a comment:
      Demonstration performances of various special forces.

      The task is to catch a hare in a huge reed field.

      The first is special forces BB.
      It cordons off the field with armored personnel carriers, processes it with hail ...
      When the fire dies down, a charred hare carcass is found on the field.

      The second comes the GRU special forces.
      Ten battle groups leave on a mission at night.
      On the third day, seven locals die in an accidental shootout. TV channels immediately accuse a criminal gang of what happened.
      A week later, on the reed field, they find and detain the leader of an organized criminal group who was on the international wanted list and has lived in London for the past 20 years. A week later, one of the groups captures and leads a hare.

      Third comes the special forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
      Three days later they bring a brutally beaten beaver who admitted that he is a hare and, in the presence of witnesses, signed the corresponding protocol.

      Fourth comes FSB special forces.
      The first day nothing happens. A bear, a wolf and a fox silently step out to the second from the forest and bring a tied hare to the CP.

      The moral of the joke: the main thing is to work correctly with the immediate environment of the wanted ...
      1. 0
        3 August 2018 23: 04
        There are many more options, but you have already read the joke. Nda.
      2. +1
        5 August 2018 21: 53
        Quote: ghby
        Quote: demo
        If the Wagner PMC group is not in nature, then no one will give a penny for organizing a trip to the Central African Republic.
        And if there is one, then who protects it, who is the curator, who moves from point to point, who pays money, who provides weapons and ammunition?

        We do not have PMCs, the law does not provide. There are a bunch of services and specialists that we will never know about, but they are in the sovereign service, and if in their activities they hide behind foreign or fictional PMCs (Wagner), then that’s how it should be.

        An anecdote was sent while writing a comment:
        Demonstration performances of various special forces.

        The task is to catch a hare in a huge reed field.

        The first is special forces BB.
        It cordons off the field with armored personnel carriers, processes it with hail ...
        When the fire dies down, a charred hare carcass is found on the field.

        The second comes the GRU special forces.
        Ten battle groups leave on a mission at night.
        On the third day, seven locals die in an accidental shootout. TV channels immediately accuse a criminal gang of what happened.
        A week later, on the reed field, they find and detain the leader of an organized criminal group who was on the international wanted list and has lived in London for the past 20 years. A week later, one of the groups captures and leads a hare.

        Third comes the special forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
        Three days later they bring a brutally beaten beaver who admitted that he is a hare and, in the presence of witnesses, signed the corresponding protocol.

        Fourth comes FSB special forces.
        The first day nothing happens. A bear, a wolf and a fox silently step out to the second from the forest and bring a tied hare to the CP.

        The moral of the joke: the main thing is to work correctly with the immediate environment of the wanted ...

        You do not know the history of the GRU in its best years. They worked closely with the "closest circle". drinks
  9. 0
    3 August 2018 10: 04
    Quote: Stas157
    former convict, and now Londoner Mikhail Khodorkovsky

    He’s even served honestly! But what do the rest of the Deripaska, Usmanov, and Abramovich do at large? After all, they could all be put on the same charges. It turns out, the short-sightedness of Hodor, only in one thing - he set the wrong horses! He lay down in the West, but it was necessary to drown for Putin ... You look at this hour would build bridges and stadium arenas, would receive state awards, and not deadlines in the zone.

    Witherly. Arena stadiums ... U-boats, rockets, anti-aircraft guns ... Usmanov-Deri Pasku will turn around - where will their money be, from whom? Heze. And here Usman sits on his money, and doesn’t let anyone in. Except Putin. Let’s say, Romik, a couple of lards for the next “Vanguard”, and you, Fisherman Leo, give me, and you there Deri with Pascha sprinkle a bit ... And try
  10. -2
    3 August 2018 10: 19
    The author turned everything upside down.
    Firstly, it’s not the journalists who earn money from the blood, but the mercenaries. They are ready to kill for money, so that their owners are rich. Or maybe someone will tell me the name of a journalist from the Forbes list?) If only the power licking, which in the Ukrainians' studio they are pouring mud.
    Secondly, Dzhemal was an experienced journalist who passed more than one hot spot.
    Well, the third. The purpose of the article is to hide the traces of Wagner PMCs, slander journalists, and draw a trace from Moscow (or St. Petersburg).
    Journalists (not nightingale litter-shenins) are heroes who risk their lives trying to show the abomination and filth of people close to Putin.
    1. +2
      3 August 2018 12: 13
      Quote: Semen1972
      Firstly, it’s not the journalists who earn money from the blood, but the mercenaries. They are ready to kill for money, so that their owners are rich.

      Oh yes ... journalists are not killing anyone. Journalists only pave the way for massacres, while they themselves remain clean. "Free Radio and Television of a Thousand Hills" is an example. Or the second Iraqi one, when the media of the “free world” prepared public opinion for a war with Iraq, not disdaining anything, even frank fakes, such as Iraq's purchase of fissile materials.
      Quote: Semen1972
      Well, the third. The purpose of the article is to hide the traces of Wagner PMCs, slander journalists, and draw a trace from Moscow (or St. Petersburg).

      Are you sure? Or maybe everything is much simpler: the goal of sending journalists is either to make a film with the "evidence" sucked from the finger, or to arrange another sacred sacrifice and blame Russia for it (even if nothing can be sucked out of the finger). Win-win scenario.
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        1. +4
          3 August 2018 12: 40
          Quote: Semen1972
          You mean federal channels, ala Scheinins and Soloviev’s ...

          Well what are you. I'm talking about independent Fake News, as the president of the United States aptly puts it. smile
          1. -2
            3 August 2018 12: 59
            Quote: Alexey RA
            Well what are you. I'm talking about independent Fake News

            This is yes, except for Solovyov’s journalism no .. Here it is JOURNALISTS .. and the rest are lying ... then I completely agree with you .. you can’t argue.
      2. -2
        3 August 2018 12: 20
        Quote: Alexey RA
        either arrange another sacred sacrifice and blame Russia on it

        Friends with the head? Russia has been blamed for a million years in a row and the ZERO sense ... And how did it grow in your head that they were in the Central African Republic and the accusations of Russia. They would have banged in Moscow, on Red Square, then they would have said that the driver was from the Caucasus. So why did you dismiss the version of PMCs? because "their-tama-no" or because Zakharova said?))))
        1. +3
          3 August 2018 12: 58
          Quote: Semen1972
          Friends with the head? Russia has been blamed for a million years in a row and ZERO sense ...

          Well, what about zero? I now see a great example of the effectiveness of constant accusations - in this particular case nothing is clear yet, but some instantly concluded that "cotton wool is exactly to blame".
          Quote: Semen1972
          And how did it grow in your head that they were in the Central African Republic and the accusations of Russia.

          We follow our hands: according to the statement of the SDGs (that is, Khodorkovsky), the journalists went to make a revelation film about the Wagner PMC. And then journalists are killed. Who is blaming the media blame for this?
          Quote: Semen1972
          They would have banged in Moscow, on Red Square, then they would have said that the driver was from the Caucasus.

          So near the Red Square, the "fighter against the regime" was already killed - you need something new.
          Quote: Semen1972
          So why did you dismiss the version of PMCs? because "their-tama-no" or because Zakharova said?

          Because in the case of PMCs, getting rid of journalists can be much easier - just ask the official authorities (for which this hypothetical PMC works) to send them out of the country. Given that in our conditions the letter “H” in the abbreviation is only a beautiful convention, such a request is almost equal to the official appeal. Well, then ... an expired certificate, a "lost" passport, an "unreadable" visa - that's all.
          1. -2
            3 August 2018 13: 09
            Quote: Alexey RA
            Well, what about zero? I see a great example of the effectiveness of standing charges

            Tell us about the effectiveness? Maybe someone knelt? Is Putin gone? Sechin removed))) It's funny.
            So near the Red Square, the "fighter against the regime" was already killed - you need something new.

            I got pumped in front of the house ... Now the Americans and corrupt media will accuse Sabyanin !!!!! What to do, again an effective provocation worked .. rally around Sabyanin !!!!
            Because in the case of PMCs, getting rid of journalists can be a lot easier.

            How do you know which is easier ???? Paying $ 50 is not difficult or giving a bottle of whiskey.
            So-so argument, sucked out of a finger ..
            Let's finish, we will remain at our place. The main thing now is to rally against the enemy along with Putin and support all his initiatives !!!!!!
            1. +2
              3 August 2018 19: 21
              Quote: Semen1972
              Tell us about the effectiveness? Maybe someone knelt? Is Putin gone? Sechin removed)))

              And what - the goal was this? belay
              The purpose of these accusations is to force people to accept all accusations towards Russia on faith. You do not reflect - you distribute. ©
              And then smoothly bring to thought. that Russia must pay for numerous crimes against humanity. What kind of crime? Well then ... What are you - CNN or the Air Force do not watch? And by the way - are you not a Russian spy, that you doubt the guilt of Russia?
    2. +1
      4 August 2018 00: 01
      Quote: Semen1972
      The author turned everything upside down.
      Firstly, it’s not the journalists who earn money from the blood, but the mercenaries. They are ready to kill for money, so that their owners are rich. Or maybe someone will tell me the name of a journalist from the Forbes list?) If only the power licking, which in the Ukrainians' studio they are pouring mud.
      Secondly, Dzhemal was an experienced journalist who passed more than one hot spot.
      Well, the third. The purpose of the article is to hide the traces of Wagner PMCs, slander journalists, and draw a trace from Moscow (or St. Petersburg).
      Journalists (not nightingale litter-shenins) are heroes who risk their lives trying to show the abomination and filth of people close to Putin.

      "
      is it about White Helmets or about the Syrian Observatory ???)))
    3. 0
      5 August 2018 21: 57
      Quote: Semen1972
      The author turned everything upside down.
      Firstly, it’s not the journalists who earn money from the blood, but the mercenaries. They are ready to kill for money, so that their owners are rich. Or maybe someone will tell me the name of a journalist from the Forbes list?) If only the power licking, which in the Ukrainians' studio they are pouring mud.
      Secondly, Dzhemal was an experienced journalist who passed more than one hot spot.
      Well, the third. The purpose of the article is to hide the traces of Wagner PMCs, slander journalists, and draw a trace from Moscow (or St. Petersburg).
      Journalists (not nightingale litter-shenins) are heroes who risk their lives trying to show the abomination and filth of people close to Putin.

      There is no PMC Wagner. In fact, the journalists came up with it.
  11. +5
    3 August 2018 10: 28
    In this tragedy, I personally do not like anyone.
  12. +2
    3 August 2018 11: 21
    Quote: Semen1972
    The author turned everything upside down.
    Firstly, it’s not the journalists who earn money from the blood, but the mercenaries. They are ready to kill for money, so that their owners are rich. Or maybe someone will tell me the name of a journalist from the Forbes list?) If only the power licking, which in the Ukrainians' studio they are pouring mud.
    Secondly, Dzhemal was an experienced journalist who passed more than one hot spot.
    Well, the third. The purpose of the article is to hide the traces of Wagner PMCs, slander journalists, and draw a trace from Moscow (or St. Petersburg).
    Journalists (not nightingale litter-shenins) are heroes who risk their lives trying to show the abomination and filth of people close to Putin.

    The author normally told and described everything. If these journalists really would have gone on the trail, say, of an illegal group of military specialists, and these specialists would have found out about this, then these people would simply have disappeared without a trace in the savannah. After all, few people knew about the arrival of journalists in the country. You never know who comes and then leaves ... Nobody would look for them. And so imitate a robbery ... Why? In general, Hodor really sent people to death.
    1. -1
      3 August 2018 12: 58
      Quote: Rods
      And so imitate a robbery ... Why?

      And what's the difference left in the car or buried. The result is one ..
      Do you think WPC is not exist?
      1. +2
        3 August 2018 14: 47
        PMC Wagner absolutely fuck what they write about them. And so they write to everyone who is not lazy - they do not kill anyone. But for those who need to inflate the scandal around Wagner, it is profitable to KILL, since the next article, as already checked, does not give effect, but their murder gives you the opportunity to spread completely about Wagner, and already somehow side by side you and federal channels dragged.
        So of the two options - Wagnerites nailed them or YOU SPECIFICALLY - the second is even more likely - YOU need it, otherwise there would be nothing to write to you.
        This is about nonsense.
      2. 0
        3 August 2018 23: 34
        Quote: Semen1972
        Do you think WPC is not exist?

        The funny thing is that yes, the PMC Wagner in the CAR does not exist.
      3. 0
        5 August 2018 22: 01
        Quote: Semen1972
        Quote: Rods
        And so imitate a robbery ... Why?

        And what's the difference left in the car or buried. The result is one ..
        Do you think WPC is not exist?

        We cannot have any PMCs - the law does not order.
  13. +2
    3 August 2018 11: 44
    Quote: Stas157
    former convict, and now Londoner Mikhail Khodorkovsky

    He’s even served honestly! But what do the rest of the Deripaska, Usmanov, and Abramovich do at large? After all, they could all be put on the same charges. It turns out, the short-sightedness of Hodor, only in one thing - he set the wrong horses! He lay down in the West, but it was necessary to drown for Putin ... You look at this hour would build bridges and stadium arenas, would receive state awards, and not deadlines in the zone.

    Name at least one billionaire who would earn his capital by honest labor. All large capital is earned through blood and deceit. That the Rothschilds, that the Rockefellers and the like ... Everyone has neither one nor two skeletons in the closet, but much more. There is no "white and fluffy." Well, about Putin and Hodor. If you recall who appointed Putin to the presidency in the year 99, then it turns out that it’s not “Hodor under Putin”, but a turnover.
    1. +1
      4 August 2018 12: 29
      Quote: Rods
      Name at least one billionaire who would earn his capital by honest labor.

      Bezos? Buffett? Gates? Zuckerberg? Jobs? Ortega? Kamprad? Durov?
  14. +1
    3 August 2018 12: 01
    There is scum and the road.
    1. 0
      7 August 2018 23: 23
      You too have a way there. Since only scum can rejoice in killing people. Especially peaceful journalists. Scum - this is who kills people. And journalists are writing articles.
      1. -2
        8 August 2018 07: 32
        And journalists write articles

        Goebbels also did not kill anyone and peacefully wrote articles.
  15. +1
    3 August 2018 13: 32
    I feel sorry for people.
    ---------
    But that adult men were so reckless and absolutely did not think about security? There is not even Avos our natural, but children's naivety belay
    1. 0
      3 August 2018 23: 44
      Quote: xomaNN
      But that adult men were so reckless and absolutely did not think about security? There is not even Avos our natural, but children's naivety

      No, they were framed in full, sent to the place where they were supposedly waited. There they ... really waited.
  16. +6
    3 August 2018 14: 06
    9000 S is 100 ANNUAL salaries there. If you shake a hundred of his annual salaries at a checkpoint in front of an American soldier in Afghanistan, it’s not a fact that they will later find a carcass ... There is such a science - victimology, about behavior that provokes a crime. And therefore, in fairy tales that the “stage of ninvinavat” is simply impossible to believe. Clearly they were sent there already so that they didn’t return, who sent it is known.
    It’s just that haha ​​makes his way from the clumsy provocations.
    Do you remember Jack London's story about a boy who jumped for coins into the bay? Then his shark gobbled up? The grandmother who threw him the gold was to blame ...
  17. 0
    3 August 2018 15: 06
    Thanks to the author. The points. Professionally. Journalists are sorry, but it was their choice and their own neglect of the situation. What did they promise and why did they neglect all security measures ??? In short, what is the motivation?
  18. +4
    3 August 2018 15: 11
    Most likely they were initially sent one way. They promised with three boxes, including security, escort, solution of all issues and more. Otherwise, it is difficult to imagine how adults agreed to such an adventure. In short, if this is a robbery, then it is not accidental, but planned and correctly provoked. But it’s not about Khodor, most likely, he was raped blindly, even if he hides scarves and doesn’t drink tea, because his turn ...
    1. 0
      3 August 2018 23: 36
      Quote: KelWin
      Most likely they were originally sent at one end. They promised three boxes, incl. security, maintenance, solution of all issues and so on.

      No security promised. They just knew who and where they were going to. At the last UN-checkpoint, where they were seen alive, they were told - you are just suicidal, if you go by car, without a jeep-other with security, at night, on a country road in the jungle, to the territory controlled by the militants. Correspondents answered - everything will be ok, we have agreed everything ...
  19. 0
    3 August 2018 19: 44
    And everything seems a little easier to me: in search of "fried" anti-Russian facts, O. Dzhemal and Co. stumbled upon Old about the presence of military advisers of the Russian Federation in the Central African Republic. We looked for sponsors for the trip and went to Khodorkovsky. He did not refuse, but sponsored to a minimum. According to the principle: "to succeed is good, but will not burn out - the loss is not great."
    There was not enough money for the “normal” preparation of the voyage, or maybe (and most likely) everyone had already transferred their “earnings” from this trip to their account in advance. Therefore, we went "randomly", with 8,5 thousand cache as a "safety cushion" from various force majeure. I think that initially it was 10 thousand, but 1,5 thousand were spent on penetrating the territory of the Central African Republic and hiring a guide-driver.
    After the group decided to leave the territory controlled by the bosses of this carrier, they realized that the remaining grandmothers would go into the pockets of their rivals and / or enemies. After that, the fate of these "tourists" was a foregone conclusion and the execution of the sentence was not long in coming.
    The fact that these "journalists" did not hesitate to rush for the illusory opportunity to shoot something to the detriment of Russia is not surprising - however, the liberals. And like all Russian liberals, they are used to working outside the legal field - after all, in the Russian Federation everything was limited to the next Chinese warning on the air or on the Internet. With this measure, they confidently entered the Central African Republic, possibly quite sincerely believing that if they had a “progressive West”, no one would dare touch their finger.
    Dare.
    PS In general, it is very similar to what happened to the "artist" Pavlensky. In Moscow, by and large, everything got away with it .. And in Paris, for the same “performance” as he had previously spent in Moscow, the “artist” was put in jail. It happened the same with O. Jemal: what got away with him in Mordor led him to a bullet in the Central African Republic.
  20. 0
    3 August 2018 21: 49
    Journalism is one of the corrupt girls of capitalism. Infa is mined and sold profitably. Well gone. They knew what they were going on.
    1. +2
      4 August 2018 10: 58
      Well, you seem to live without a salary. In this case, capitalism has other corrupt girls - doctors, teachers, cleaners. After all, they also pursue their own benefit and know what they are going to. By the way, they too perish. And they have murderers on them.
      1. +1
        5 August 2018 19: 29
        Yes, I live on a salary and sell my strength, time and brains. And if they bang me, I know how much I stand. Do not greatly admire and suffer. Normal work with your own risks and costs.
  21. +3
    4 August 2018 00: 19
    I have been living and working in Africa for eight years. Without security. Experience protects. I read what they did, tried to find a way for them to survive, and did not find. They were doomed. And if they did not choose “contacts” themselves, then there was no need to even guess, they were consciously sent to die. I would institute criminal proceedings against the customer. Offhand, I figured it out, I myself can offer some well-completely “safe” topics, even in “prosperous” countries, for whose interest they are guaranteed to bang In the CAR at night with the left drove (yes with anyone!) And without reliable protection along their route? No chance. They were purposely sent to die.
    1. 0
      4 August 2018 03: 47
      Quote: Watson J.
      In the CAR at night with the left carrier (yes, with any!) And without reliable protection along their route? Chances NO. They were deliberately sent to die.

      Yes, that's exactly what it looks like, if you know a little African realities. Purposeful assassination. It's just not clear yet who benefits from it.
  22. +2
    4 August 2018 10: 29
    Hard workers at the factory are dying every day and everyone is in a drum, and about three journalists there is noise all over the world! Official statistics - over the 10 months of the 2017 year, 1200 people died in production!
  23. +1
    4 August 2018 10: 47
    You can’t be so careless about your life. It is clear that war is a wild country where until recently the emperor ate his subjects, but one must be prepared for this everywhere - a civilian is always a potential victim of a monkey with a grenade.
  24. 0
    4 August 2018 11: 53
    It is surprising that the Jemal group did not consist of young boys, everything was quite experienced people. For the $ 8,500 they had with them, they could organize an army offensive in this country, but didn’t even have a work plan, had no contact with informants, had no guides and cover, and such a task immediately implies a certain risk. one hired driver who accidentally survived.
  25. 0
    4 August 2018 12: 26
    Actually, for an “organized gang” in the Central African Republic and other Congo, three white journalists are usually good loot for ransom ...
    I can assume: the money was highlighted by the police, they were “helped” to find a guide-chauffeur, he led a partner under the shots and now this chauffeur is safe and sound as a “victim of an unknown attack”
  26. -1
    4 August 2018 13: 35
    Quote: Stas157
    former convict, and now Londoner Mikhail Khodorkovsky

    He’s even served honestly! But what do the rest of the Deripaska, Usmanov, and Abramovich do at large? After all, they could all be put on the same charges. It turns out, the short-sightedness of Hodor, only in one thing - he set the wrong horses! He lay down in the West, but it was necessary to drown for Putin ... You look at this hour would build bridges and stadium arenas, would receive state awards, and not deadlines in the zone.

    He said, coming out of Uncle Vova’s office: “I’m tired of him, it’s time to change him ..” Then there was Pu’s call, special forces and a zone. But why did they release it and why didn’t they find all the stolen money? am
    1. 0
      5 August 2018 22: 08
      Quote: Dzafdet
      Quote: Stas157
      former convict, and now Londoner Mikhail Khodorkovsky

      He’s even served honestly! But what do the rest of the Deripaska, Usmanov, and Abramovich do at large? After all, they could all be put on the same charges. It turns out, the short-sightedness of Hodor, only in one thing - he set the wrong horses! He lay down in the West, but it was necessary to drown for Putin ... You look at this hour would build bridges and stadium arenas, would receive state awards, and not deadlines in the zone.

      He said, coming out of Uncle Vova’s office: “I’m tired of him, it’s time to change him ..” Then there was Pu’s call, special forces and a zone. But why did they release it and why didn’t they find all the stolen money? am

      Because the rest have money navigated too.
      1. +1
        6 August 2018 19: 11
        Because the rest have money navigated too.

        Formally, not even stolen.
        Hodor has an article for tax evasion, and not for “privatization” at all.
        In general, there are so many corpses behind the hodor that you have to be very sore on the head or very greedy in order to go to Africa on his instructions ...
  27. +1
    5 August 2018 08: 42
    Humanly, they feel sorry for them, but in fact - for which they fought, they ran into something.
  28. +1
    5 August 2018 16: 58
    : Sorry for the son of Heydar Jamal. I remembered him from the "Memory" (of the Father) ...
  29. +1
    5 August 2018 18: 35
    Quote: Watson J.
    In the CAR at night with the left carrier (yes, with any!) And without reliable protection along their route? Chances NO. They were deliberately sent to die.


    Are they small children? They didn’t understand where they were going and what they were doing? And this “basmach” Cemal is still that figure, listened to him several times - he is the enemy and the enemy. And so that he would not "cover his ass" would stick to hell in hell, but I won’t believe in zhist. This thing initially "smells like kerosene," or maybe worse. Especially if it is connected with Khodorkovsky. And the continuation will be for sure. hi
  30. +1
    6 August 2018 04: 00
    A group of Russian journalists dies in the Central African Republic

    "Russian Journalists," you need to write in quotation marks ("") Since these Judahs worked on the side of the enemy!

    And one of these “ours”, on the air of Echo, openly wished for Putin's death, pledged with Dagestan terrorists, defended ISIS, and hated your Israel. Two others rejoiced in the killings at the House of Trade Unions.

    It would be better if libroids and “wrestlers with the regime” asked Hodor questions - why the heck it was necessary to send this trinity to the African week, where people are “cut out” only for their skin color, beautiful T-shirt, or just for starvation, for dinner.

    Although after the fake with the Skripals, everything is clear. But only Khanygin, the libroids have nothing to say. The handshake community will continue the set trend of composing the “Protocols of the Kremlin Sages” and in their free time from fake throwing, to celebrate the fever and mourn over the innocently killed.

    I myself am ready to grieve at the gentlemen of Entim. However, I am ready with no less enthusiasm to sincerely grieve for Mr. M. Shevchenko (a close friend and associate of Dzhemal), and other things, all sorts of different Nepolpolites from Ear Matsi and Novaya.

    You only give me an occasion to grieve. My grief is free and disinterested. I can grieve so creatively and exquisitely that Charon explodes and donates the blood-earned obol to donations to Lyakhsey Anal. I grieve very expertly ... drinks hi

    P / s. Jemalu is a shroud made of the skin of a totem Sumerian animal, and instead of Guri, a hundred Furies! am am am

  31. +4
    6 August 2018 04: 02
    I was about 13 years ago in Africa. Not for long, a little less than two months. Moreover, mind you, in a fairly rich and calm (relatively) Kenya. Well, at least at that moment - relatively calm. So even in the capital they immediately and clearly told us - never, under any circumstances, do not leave the hotel after dark. Want to go to a club / restaurant / etc? They ordered a taxi strictly to the door of the hotel and strictly to the door of the destination. Similarly back. Better not. Sit in the hotel - you will be healthier. If you just go out to breathe the air - the likelihood that you will simply crash bang more than great. Just because you're white, which means you probably have 20-30 bucks in your pocket. And even a hundred. For there are no poor white people in Nairobi. This is more than enough reason to rob you, and since banging and robbing is easier, then ... The probability of surviving by three unarmed whites without guards, in an African country in which there has been a civil war for many years, about which it is known that they have so much dough that they gave 200 bucks not really upset - in my amateurish opinion, contrary to the theory of probability, which states that the probability of an event cannot be equal to zero, it is absolutely and absolutely undeniable equal to zero.
  32. VB
    0
    6 August 2018 08: 51
    And who pays for the delivery of bodies to Russia? And why will one of the journalists be buried at the Troekurovsky cemetery? For services to Khodorkovsky? My uncle is buried there. General and Hero of the Soviet Union. The battalion commander received a star for Koenigsberg. And nearby Khodorkovsky sang down. It’s immediately clear who for his government
  33. +1
    6 August 2018 22: 24
    Quote: VB
    And who pays for the delivery of bodies to Russia? And why will one of the journalists be buried at the Troekurovsky cemetery? For services to Khodorkovsky? My uncle is buried there. General and Hero of the Soviet Union. The battalion commander received a star for Koenigsberg. And nearby Khodorkovsky sang down. It’s immediately clear who for his government


    Eternal memory and eternal respect for your uncle. soldier Unfortunately, now it’s not merit to the country and people, but money that rules the ball in this country. hi
  34. +1
    6 August 2018 23: 10
    In vain he was released, as Hodor was a criminal, and remained.
  35. +1
    7 August 2018 18: 20
    He is a customer, not an employer. He does not have to think about their safety. These are the TV channels whose journalists were killed in the Donbass - these are employers. And when they died, but something was not heard, there were accusations against them that they did not worry about the safety of their employees.
  36. 0
    7 August 2018 23: 17
    Quote: VB
    And who pays for the delivery of bodies to Russia? And why will one of the journalists be buried at the Troekurovsky cemetery? For services to Khodorkovsky? My uncle is buried there. General and Hero of the Soviet Union. The battalion commander received a star for Koenigsberg. And nearby Khodorkovsky sang down. It’s immediately clear who for his government

    On Troekurovsky, filmmakers are traditionally buried. Alexander Rastorguev was a well-known documentary director.
  37. 0
    7 August 2018 23: 18
    Apparently Wagnerites and soaked journalists. Everything is slippery and muddy. There is no faith in propaganda from TV. The author of the article also transfers arrows from the customers of the murder to the customers of the investigation.
    1. 0
      30 August 2018 12: 10
      A wonderful version of an amateur. I do not insult, just who has not lived here for the nth number of years, can not imagine what is happening here. Believe my experience, no one perceives by ear, only by experience. So, for starters, very briefly about the insolvency of the version. One fact that the carrier was left alive says that this is not the work of Wagnerians. The fact is that any informed person knows that tanned pricks with minimal collision, from a few good blows. For the most persistent, there is a bit. I saw this in the office of the chief of police of one prosperous country. With dark spots on the surface, so that it is clear that they are not addicted to baseball. And all investigations occur only on the arrests and interrogations of suspects. Very successful, by the way. There are not enough bucks to pay off - in prison. There is no fingerprinting, laboratories and any other frills from the word at all. Therefore, leave a witness who will split right away, and if he does not light up, then after a certain period of time stopudovo will realize blackmail (and still have to be removed), it’s somehow beyond the bounds of quick wisdom. I hope so. A driver survives if he is a member of a black gang and we are talking about robbery. In 100 percent of cases of robberies, whites are wet and people in uniform are not wet. As for the whites, an explanation at the genetic level - if you don’t soak it, he will come with other armed whites and will take revenge brutally, and people in uniform can have weapons. A typical picture of robbery. Wagnerites have nothing to do with it. Explain the smaller nuances for a long time, drove more than enough.
      But after reading the texts of the telegram correspondence of journalists with the "curators" from the customer, I was simply horrified. If this is an order for a serious "investigation", then the organization is below the plinth. With such instructions, I would not send to any country. Let's say the customer is not in the know, the staff is careless, everyone doesn't care. Let's admit. And what about the performers? Are the children small? Didn't know where they were going? Did they receive insurance for each of them for a couple of hundred million dollars, so that families could then provide? I understand when people are ready to die for the truth, but only for the grandmother? Only for unrealistically large ones. From their correspondence, the conclusion suspiciously suggests itself that they did not even really understand what exactly was required of them. And if they did, it was even worse. In this case, they deliberately agreed to participate in a dirty and deadly risky event for money. It is a pity, of course, that this scum cannot be attracted in any way, they will blame everything on mistakes (negligence) of journalists, which is, in general, true. Well, not really children.
      One hope that other journalists, having analyzed this tragedy, will think a hundred times before agreeing to collaborate with people like a walker. It turns out to be deadly dangerous to serve the devil.