Three Russian journalists who shot a film on PMCs killed in Central African Republic

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In the Central African Republic on the night of 31 July 2018, three Russian citizens were allegedly killed, according to France-Presse, citing sources. The bodies of those killed were found 23 kilometers from the city of Sibut, 188 kilometers from the capital of the CAR.

According to preliminary information, two press cards that allegedly belonged to the Izvestia newspaper were found when they were killed, but the Izvestia press service denied this information, saying that the newspaper’s employees did not enter the territory of the CAR. The Russian embassy is investigating whether the dead were Russian citizens, Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said. Diplomats have already left for identification.



Three Russian journalists who shot a film on PMCs killed in Central African Republic

Kirill Radchenko, Alexander Rastorguev, Orhan Dzhemal


At the same time, the Dozhd TV channel publishes information that the journalist Orkhan Dzhemal, the cameraman Kirill Radchenko and the director Alexander Rastorguev, who shot a documentary about the work of the EWC Wagner, were killed in the Central African Republic. This was reported to Dozhd in the LRC (Investigation Management Center), an information project launched and funded by Khodorkovsky. The film was a joint project of the LRC and Alexander Rastorguev.

RIA News They cite the deputy head of the center Anastasia Gorshkova, who said that “the Investigation Management Center of Mikhail Khodorkovsky sent journalist Orhan Jemal, documentary director Alexander Rastorguev and cameraman Kirill Radchenko to film in the CAR.”

According to available information, Russian journalists were stopped at the roadblock. They traveled from the capital of the republic. What exactly happened to them is unknown. At the same time, a source in the judicial authorities of the CAR states that the Russians were killed by militants at the checkpoint. Neither the Russian embassy in the CARs, nor the Russian advisers to the president of the country knew about the presence of journalists in the republic, a source in the Russian military structures told the agency. The death of the group is confirmed in the UN mission in the CAR. At the same time, the Russian embassy said that the bodies of the dead are in a local hospital, and their identities will be established by Wednesday morning.

Earlier in the media flashed information that the fighters of the PMC Wagner are in the CAR and help protect the president of the country Fostan-Arkanzh Tuaderu.
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  1. +39
    31 July 2018 20: 08
    Khodorkovsky, you say? Then it is clear what flight these birds were.
    1. +31
      31 July 2018 20: 10
      Do not go children to Africa for a walk ... A good country choice for travel.
      1. +59
        31 July 2018 20: 33
        there would still organize a group "tourist" exit Navalny, Amuel, Kovton, Nadezhdin and Ksenia with Mara to the heap
        1. +44
          31 July 2018 20: 39
          Since you were talking about Amnuel and Kovtun, it would not hurt to mention those whose programs made these "experts" stars of Russian TV. Kovtun just makes money, and if you need to dance on the air with Solovyov under the “Nagiva Hava”, he will dance, just to pay the denyuzhu properly.
          1. +28
            31 July 2018 20: 52
            Neither the Izvestia press service, nor the Russian embassy in the Central African Republic, nor Russian advisers to the president of the country knew about the presence of journalists in the republic. And in the SDGs, funded by Khodorkovsky, they found out. The question arises of the quantity and quality of SDG ties with terrorists.
            1. MPN
              +5
              31 July 2018 20: 56
              An interesting movie turned out. sad
              1. +7
                1 August 2018 07: 53

                I don’t know the others, but somehow I don’t feel sorry for Orkhan Dzhemal

                Extremely impudent and unpleasant type.

                Was.

                Most likely, he asked for it

            2. +3
              1 August 2018 00: 10
              No.
              The question arises - maybe it’s enough to lie in the press service I don’t know anything, I don’t understand anything request ?
              Yes they all know! Perhaps even before the murder wassat
              1. +1
                1 August 2018 22: 26
                With eyes read at least.
                Naturally Izvestia and killed these journalists. special squad of killers of the Izvestia publishing house. I did not hear more delirium.
                Moreover, they say that they went to the Central African Republic on the order of the SDG Khodorkovsky, where does Izvestia have to do with it?
            3. +6
              1 August 2018 09: 52
              And in the SDGs funded by Khodorkovsky, they found out

              In the sense of "learned." Judging by the text, they sent them there
          2. +7
            1 August 2018 05: 23
            Quote: Black_Jacket
            Kovtun just makes money, and if you need to dance on the air with Solovyov under the “Nagiva Hava”, he will dance, just to pay the denyuzhu properly.

            Do you think that Kovtun should be removed from the air? For what? So that the shoppers begin to sing songs about a rich and free Ukraine, which is taking leaps and bounds towards a bright European future under the guidance of smart and honest politicians who have overthrown the hated dictator, with a hint that we should go too? So that people quickly forget about Ukrainian Russophobia and are more willing to support "TseEvropeytsev" at bulk rallies? So that later it would be more convenient to write on the forums that in Ukraine there is no Nazism?
        2. +19
          31 July 2018 21: 17
          Quote: mvd ru
          there would still organize a group "tourist" exit

          you forgot to mention the iPhone’s government, there’s a proposal, we’ll throw it on this tour, and I feel sorry for these people hi
          1. +2
            1 August 2018 06: 49
            Quote: Angel_and_Demon
            Quote: mvd ru
            there would still organize a group "tourist" exit

            you forgot to mention the iPhone’s government - there’s a proposal, we’ll throw it on this tour,

            Dreaming. What did they forget in the Central African Republic? They are fed well in Russia.
        3. +17
          31 July 2018 22: 21
          and still there would be no harm to the heap and Kiselev.
          1. +8
            31 July 2018 22: 46
            Quote: Yarik
            and still there would be no harm to the heap and Kiselev.

            he lives in hohlyadiya !!! request request laughing laughing laughing
            1. +6
              31 July 2018 23: 03
              Quote: Nikolai Grek
              Quote: Yarik
              and still there would be no harm to the heap and Kiselev.

              he lives in hohlyadiya !!! request request laughing laughing laughing

              2 of them There take
              1. +9
                31 July 2018 23: 11
                Quote: USSR-1
                Quote: Nikolai Grek
                Quote: Yarik
                and still there would be no harm to the heap and Kiselev.

                he lives in hohlyadiya !!! request request laughing laughing laughing

                2 of them There take

                who deserves, he lives in Hohland !!! request request wassat wassat lol lol lol
          2. +1
            1 August 2018 02: 09
            Your wife wink?
        4. +1
          1 August 2018 14: 35
          And Ioannina stupidly, stupidly smiling forever.
      2. +10
        31 July 2018 21: 34
        Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
        Do not go children to Africa for a walk ... A good country choice for travel.

        at the impulse to dig up something for Uncle Vova they lost their minds and shook themselves up big !! request request request
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      4. +5
        1 August 2018 02: 15
        Almost all of Africa is poor people who kill just to check your pockets, and then there’s also expensive video equipment ... they’re not filming goupro.
    2. +41
      31 July 2018 20: 23
      The bald one on the right is Heydar Cemal, the father of Orhan.
      According to the views, the son was not far from the pope.
      1. +7
        31 July 2018 20: 28
        Orhan, like on Echo of Moscow, often performed. He worked in the North Caucasus, in Afghanistan, Iraq, Lebanon, Syria. The author of the book The Chronicles of the Five-Day War (2008) about the Russian-Georgian war of the 2008 of the year.
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          1. +31
            31 July 2018 21: 02
            So I climbed onto my head. The CAR is not a "bloody mordor", where they drag into an autopack, photos on Instagram, lawyers in pre-trial detention centers, videos on YouTube and other nishtyaks of a "tough dictatorship" ... Here, right away, there’s a democratic machine in the snout and mustache, there are no more "fighters for rights people "...
            1. +7
              31 July 2018 23: 22
              Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
              . Here, right away, a democratic machine in the snout and mustache, there are no more "fighters for human rights" ...

              Nefig was a free democratic blacks to shine.
            2. +5
              1 August 2018 12: 45
              Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
              Here immediately democratic machine in the snout and mustache,

              Duc, why not democracy - from an automaton, then? request Not so long ago, guests ate stupidly in the CAR. laughing Moreover, the President of Bokassa succeeded in this. Yes And now, "just something" was shot ...
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    3. +11
      31 July 2018 21: 25
      comrade is definitely right. pick up a bunch. do johnny i want montage
      and in Europe they say watch Putin and there the country is terrorizing and intervening in the elections and, in general, they caught it red-handed.
      another rain miracle project.
    4. +16
      31 July 2018 21: 32
      Quote: Sentence
      Khodorkovsky, you say? Then it is clear what flight these birds were.


      A journalist on RosTV gave a powerful speech about the life of Crimean Tatars on the peninsula: a video was published
      Russian journalist Orkhan Dzhemal shared his vision of where the Russian-speaking majority came from in Crimea.

      He said this on the air of one of the political programs on the Russian television channel NTV. The video with the words of Orkhan Jemal posted a comic account "Roissya 24" on his Facebook page.

      The journalist said that in 1944, in the Crimea, in place of massively deported Crimean Tatars, the NKVD officers who had curried out in the war settled.

      Also, Orkhan Jemal, in the context of Russia's ban on the international Pan-Islamic party Hizb ut-Tahrir, recalled that this political force operated freely under the Ukrainian government, and now its adherents are being detained and arrested.

      https://apostrophe.ua/news/world/ex-ussr/2017-05-
      31 / jurnalist-na-rostv-vyidal-moschnuyu-rech-pro-j
      izn-kryimskih-tatar-na-poluostrove-opublikovano-v
      ideo / 97522

      something like that!!! request request request
      1. +30
        31 July 2018 21: 42
        Ha. To paraphrase a Russian proverb.
        Tell me who pays you, and I will tell you what you will tell.
        1. +10
          31 July 2018 21: 44
          Quote: Borisovich
          Ha. To paraphrase a Russian proverb.
          Tell me who pays you, and I will tell you what you will tell.

          and so too)) !! just specially threw off the article and who riveted it ... laconic description !!! wassat wassat
    5. +1
      31 July 2018 21: 40
      Grandmas also need to be able to chop. No luck guys, however. winked
    6. +6
      31 July 2018 21: 49
      was it in the Central African Republic Bokassa? followers are no better, I suppose.
      Well, there will be a science for others, as if on a hodor’s money to visit cannibals.
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    9. +1
      1 August 2018 01: 04
      My condolences to family and friends.
    10. SSR
      +7
      1 August 2018 02: 46
      Quote: Sentence
      Khodorkovsky, you say? Then it is clear what flight these birds were.

      "Rain"!
      Quote: Black_Jacket
      The bald one on the right is Heydar Cemal, the father of Orhan.
      According to the views, the son was not far from the pope.

      Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
      Do not go children to Africa for a walk ... A good country choice for travel.

      This can be done.
      Ibonefig.
    11. 0
      1 August 2018 07: 25
      Sacred sacrifices?
      1. +1
        1 August 2018 07: 56
        Tell me who your "friend" \ customer is and I’ll tell you how you will end.
        Rest in peace ....
    12. +6
      1 August 2018 08: 19
      You're right. People went to Africa to "shoot" Syria. One maydown, one liberal of domestic damage and one just for the dough. Here is such a zradoperemos. Now they will roll cylinders on Wagner. Parliaments and senates of "free and democratic" states will gather. Expose this cinematic rabble victims of tyranny. And here you are, Jemal's list)))) Wagner's tarnished reputation, sanctions against friendly firms. The world gendarme solves its problems.
      1. 0
        1 August 2018 19: 05
        what are you)) Richard Wagner with his Symphony, the Flying Dutchman, Faust, such nonsense will not hit his reputation in any way))) let them not dream
    13. 0
      1 August 2018 11: 35
      Sorry for the guys.
      Democracy is not possible without journalists.
      1. +3
        1 August 2018 12: 49
        Quote: Alex Justice
        Democracy is not possible without journalists.

        Yes, and with them, too.
  2. +24
    31 July 2018 20: 08
    I strongly suspect that these three SDGs were specifically sent there to kill, and then raise a cry about how bad our PMCs are killing journalists.
    1. +20
      31 July 2018 20: 41
      In any case, a very muddy story! The ambassadors did not know about the presence of this group in the country ... Khodorkovsky ... They shot the film about Wagner's PMC ... I wonder how they could have shot it at all ?! A muddy story ...
      1. +8
        31 July 2018 21: 07
        Quote: Oper
        The ambassadors did not know that this group was in the country ... Khodorkovsky ... The film about PMC Wagner was shot ...

        Wagner PMCs are pretty much publicized in the press, so that if they wanted, the journalists could quite easily contact them through official channels and come through the embassy, ​​with appropriate security. I don’t think they would be refused. It’s another matter what exactly they wanted to film - given whose project it is, it’s hardly something good, that’s why they went secretly. Well, then it may be an accident, but I strongly suspect that it is a provocation ..
        1. +13
          31 July 2018 21: 15
          Not PMC Wagner PR, and the press is PR on this topic! And of course they couldn’t officially shoot the film! From the word ABSOLUTELY! Provocation or some other circumstances ... it makes no sense to speak now! Most likely we will never know what happened. It may of course be an accident. But...
          1. +1
            31 July 2018 22: 36
            Quote: Oper
            Not PMC Wagner PR, and the press is PR on this topic!

            It goes without saying that the press is promoting everything on everything, but PMC itself does not seek to go into the shadows, to take even the fact that Wagner was at the president’s reception. PMCs are generally closely related to politics.
            Quote: Oper
            This is definitely not a public structure! At least for someone to go somewhere to make a film about her! Do you believe in such a naive ?!

            Films about special forces are being shot. Of course, only what can be shown, but in principle there is nothing incredible in this.
            1. 0
              1 August 2018 19: 10
              but PMC itself does not seek to go into the shadows, to take even the fact that Wagner was at the president’s reception


              Can you give evidence of your words?))))
              or are you so blah blah? Who is Wagner?
              1. 0
                1 August 2018 22: 54
                Quote: aquatic
                Can you give evidence of your words?))))

                https://grani-ru-org.appspot.com/Politics/Russia/
                President / m.257999.html
                Quote: aquatic
                Who is Wagner?

                Do you not know?
                1. 0
                  3 August 2018 18: 14
                  I know Richard Wagner. Are you talking about him? or about whom? no links please say in a nutshell but essentially)
                  1. +1
                    3 August 2018 19: 38
                    Quote: aquatic
                    know Richard Wagner Are you talking about him? or about whom? no links please say in a nutshell but essentially)

                    Do you want him to reveal the secret and become a traitor?

                    By the way, I noticed a tendency - that the loudest people shouting about Wagner PMCs are those who have sunk to the bottom ... intellectual. Dear and reputable people on the site clearly explained to them how to think, what you need to know, and what point of view is worth accepting. For this reason they themselves can’t explain anything, they don’t even understand and do not remember what they are told, how they argue. It is said - no need to reflect - distribute.
                  2. 0
                    3 August 2018 21: 16
                    Quote: aquatic
                    I know Richard Wagner you about him

                    Opens the article a link to which I gave you and read its beginning, that is, the first paragraph:
                    Presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov commented on a joint photo on Vladimir Putin’s social media account the head of a private military company Dmitry Utkin, known as the Wagner call sign.
                    1. +2
                      5 August 2018 20: 30
                      open the link))) and read the words of Peskov literally
                      “On the sidelines of the reception, the president took a lot of pictures with the guests. Apparently, this is one of these photos. There was no separate communication with anyone”

                      everything else is your wet fantasies)) which you cannot even articulate clearly)

                      Red_Baron is right) it’s not even interesting to discuss with you) logic at the kindergarten level
                      1. 0
                        5 August 2018 21: 02
                        Quote: aquatic
                        On the sidelines of the reception, the president took pictures with guests a lot. Apparently, this is one of these photos. There was no separate communication with anyone

                        And you yourself have not tried to get to such a reception? There are no random people there. Well, serious issues are discussed in special rooms.
            2. 0
              3 August 2018 19: 34
              Quote: Dart2027
              It goes without saying that the press is promoting everything on everything, but PMC itself does not seek to go into the shadows, to take even the fact that Wagner was at the president’s reception. PMCs are generally closely related to politics.

              That is, everyone who was at the President’s reception, suspected of something?
              And PMCs are probably associated with the military, and therefore Shoigu is involved, as well as with medicine, they are probably treated after operations, and therefore with Skvortsova and nurse Lena from our clinic.
              Quote: Dart2027
              Films about special forces are being shot.

              And can you find out the names of documentary films about the actions of the special forces acting? Films are not how they are congratulated or trained as an investigation from the scene.
              1. 0
                3 August 2018 21: 20
                Quote: Red_Baron
                That is, everyone who was at the President’s reception, suspected of something?

                Let's just say - an accidental person getting there is "problematic".
                Quote: Red_Baron
                And PMCs are probably associated with the military, and therefore Shoigu is involved, as well as with medicine, they are probably treated after operations, and therefore with Skvortsova and nurse Lena

                Most likely not Shoigu, but the leadership of the SVR and the GRU.
                Quote: Red_Baron
                Films are not how they are congratulated or trained as an investigation from the scene.

                Quote: Dart2027
                Films about special forces are being shot. Of course, only what can be shown
                I don’t quite understand what you mean by an investigation, but reporting from hot spots is by no means uncommon.
                1. +1
                  3 August 2018 22: 07
                  Quote: Dart2027
                  Let's just say - a random person getting there is "problematic"

                  I saw that there was, for example, Chulpan Khamatova and the president shook her hand, just like Alexander Pakhmutov and she shook her hand, and many more people. They will not be arrested?
                  Quote: Dart2027

                  Most likely not Shoigu, but the leadership of the SVR and the GRU.

                  But I think rather Shoigu. You, I think, know what PMCs are doing in other countries.
                  Quote: Dart2027
                  I don’t quite understand what you mean by an investigation, but reporting from hot spots is by no means uncommon.

                  Well, journalists were the center of investigation, is it not just what it is called? My opinion is that this should be an investigation in the spirit of Navalny - no specifics, no accurate data, but all in the spirit - well, people see and cannot be fooled. And then it turns out that all the facts have not been verified and are aimed at discrediting.
                  Actually, in this case, data had to be collected or invented, the main thing was to show something. To discredit anything. Knowing the activities of these journalists, there is no doubt.
                  1. 0
                    4 August 2018 06: 40
                    Quote: Red_Baron
                    I saw that there was, for example, Chulpan Khamatova and the president shook her hand, just like Alexander Pakhmutov and she shook her hand, and many more people. They will not be arrested?

                    Quote: Dart2027
                    Let's just say - an accidental person getting there is "problematic".

                    I understand that nothing clever can be said? Try to get there yourself.
                    Quote: Red_Baron
                    But I think rather Shoigu. You, I think, know what PMCs are doing in other countries.
                    I know that other countries are the prerogative of intelligence.
                    Quote: Red_Baron
                    My opinion is that this should be an investigation in the spirit of Navalny - no specifics, no accurate data, but all in the spirit - well, people see and cannot be fooled.

                    Have you read my posts?
                    Quote: Dart2027
                    It’s another matter what exactly they wanted to film - given whose project it is, it’s hardly something good, that’s why they went secretly.
                    I wrote quite clearly that if they wanted to shoot an interview with representatives of PMCs, they could calmly agree in advance, but apparently their task was to discredit.
                    1. +2
                      4 August 2018 11: 30
                      Quote: Dart2027
                      I understand that nothing clever can be said? Try to get there yourself.

                      And here myself, I wrote you specific people, you began to dodge like that.
                      Quote: Dart2027
                      I know that other countries are the prerogative of intelligence.

                      That is, when PMCs are hired to protect certain objects, intelligence Oo is engaged in this.
                      Quote: Dart2027
                      Have you read my posts?

                      yes, here are a few above and saw which sources you are referring to :)
                      1. +1
                        4 August 2018 13: 37
                        Quote: Red_Baron
                        I wrote you specific people
                        Which have nothing to do with PMCs in particular and law enforcement agencies in general. The fact of the presence of “Wagner” at the reception is beyond doubt? As well as the fact that a random person does not get there?
                        Quote: Red_Baron
                        That is, when PMCs are hired to protect some kind of objects, intelligence is engaged in this.
                        Any PMC is a tool of special services. Of course, these structures can work simply for money, but priority will always be given to the instructions of the "office". That is why they exist.
                        Quote: Red_Baron
                        yes, here are a few above and saw which sources you are referring to
                        Sources? Actually, in this case, I had in mind my statement, which I even quoted, and which in general coincides with yours.
                        Quote: Red_Baron
                        My opinion is that this should be an investigation in the spirit of Navalny - no specifics, no accurate data, but all in the spirit - well, people see and cannot be fooled. And then it turns out that all the facts are not verified and are aimed at discrediting.

                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Another thing is what exactly they wanted to shoot - given whose project it is, it’s hardly something good, and therefore went secretly
        2. +6
          31 July 2018 21: 19
          Quote: Dart2027
          Well, then it may be an accident, but I strongly suspect that it is a provocation ..

          speak plainly - planned action
          1. +6
            31 July 2018 21: 25
            And, how can one speak directly from that information that is now known ?! From what is now known, one thing can be said-no need to go where you don’t need to! Well, and what happened there will be sorted out by the corresponding services! And not the fact that we will be informed about the results.
            1. +6
              31 July 2018 21: 31
              Quote: Oper
              And not the fact that we will be informed about the results.

              Wagnerites are generally secretive guys
              1. +6
                31 July 2018 21: 33
                This is definitely not a public structure! At least for someone to go somewhere to make a film about her! Do you believe in such a naive ?!
                1. +6
                  31 July 2018 21: 41
                  Quote: Oper
                  Do you believe in such a naive ?!

                  I am? - I live a long time hi
                  1. +7
                    31 July 2018 21: 58
                    That's right! The names themselves in this story appear already a lot to talk about.
                    1. +3
                      31 July 2018 22: 07
                      Quote: Oper
                      already talk a lot about what.

                      They say - a lot of things, but what's the point? he who pays dances
            2. +13
              31 July 2018 22: 11
              I climbed now on non-worthy sites. Ear matsy-only pure information about the death and snot on the dead. The rain gave the Old, well, or the opinion that it could be a robbery.
              A source at Interfax reported that the purpose of the murder could be robbery. Mediazone wrote that the film crew was going to meet with the fixer (a consultant who helps in organizing the filming). They brought expensive equipment and, according to the publication, they could rob.
              The mayor of the central African city of Sibu, Henri Depele, told Reuters that journalists were ambushed. According to the driver of the car, who survived the attack, "when they were 23 kilometers from Sibyu, armed people left the bushes and opened fire on the car."

              1. +4
                31 July 2018 22: 48
                Quote: Borisovich
                I climbed now on non-worthy sites. Ear matsy-only pure information about the death and snot on the dead. The rain gave the Old, well, or the opinion that it could be a robbery.
                A source at Interfax reported that the purpose of the murder could be robbery. Mediazone wrote that the film crew was going to meet with the fixer (a consultant who helps in organizing the filming). They brought expensive equipment and, according to the publication, they could rob.
                The mayor of the central African city of Sibu, Henri Depele, told Reuters that journalists were ambushed. According to the driver of the car, who survived the attack, "when they were 23 kilometers from Sibyu, armed people left the bushes and opened fire on the car."


                I found a much more slippery wording on my ear !! wink Yes

                An Interfax source claims the robbery could have been the cause of the murder, but Novaya Gazeta’s publisher Dmitry Muratov said, “Echo,” that does not believe in this version, since Jemal had extensive experience in hot spots.

                https://echo.msk.ru/news/2250626-echo.html
                wassat wassat wassat
                1. +4
                  1 August 2018 00: 18
                  he’s an experience of difficult mistakes - grandmas thugs will not miss, and witnesses are not very needed.
          2. +7
            31 July 2018 21: 59
            speak plainly - planned action


            Wow! Or maybe the guys with machine guns just liked the “journalists” sneakers? This often happens than the "secret conspiracy of terrible intelligence services."
            1. +3
              31 July 2018 22: 03
              In order to put on expensive sneakers, you don’t have to go to the Central African Republic to film a film about Wagner PMCs under the auspices of Khodorkovsky ...
              1. +6
                31 July 2018 22: 39
                Quote: Oper
                In order to put on expensive sneakers, you don’t have to go to the Central African Republic to film a film about Wagner PMCs under the auspices of Khodorkovsky ...

                They did not say the main thing: did they agree with Wagner on their trip and the film? Ride and not take care of your own safety? As they say an uninvited guest is worse than the "astronaut", I'm not talking about those who fly into space to work, well, you understand.
                1. +4
                  31 July 2018 22: 52
                  Baloo, you excuse me of course, but do you think that with Wagner you can coordinate the shooting of such a film ?! I'm not talking about who needs it and why? I’ll just tell Wagner not to coordinate this! Information about the activities of this structure is leaked to the press as much dosed as necessary! Further, all journalistic inventions. No more!
                  1. +11
                    31 July 2018 23: 25
                    Quote: Oper
                    Baloo, you excuse me of course, but do you think that with Wagner you can coordinate the shooting of such a film ?! I'm not talking about who needs it and why? I’ll just tell Wagner not to coordinate this! Information about the activities of this structure is leaked to the press as much dosed as necessary! Further, all journalistic inventions. No more!

                    So that's what it is about. I’m a purely civilian person, but the first reaction was sent to slaughter so that the arrow could be pointed at the wagner. When I was on duty, one day the television reporters bickered and wanted to make a report about a woman whose family died in an accident, all rushed to intensive care. Of course I didn’t let it, medical secret, why did they get that this woman would be glad to know herself on a TV screen in a helpless state. I asked to remove another old man, an unknown person brought from the street, so that someone would identify him. Reluctantly removed, but not shown. And they showed how they bickered with me, and even chose a disgusting angle. Since then, I’m not talking about journalists.
                  2. +1
                    1 August 2018 19: 12
                    Moreover, the Wagner structure itself is a journalistic invention, from the filing of some more interested in pouring mud on the Russian parties))
            2. +4
              31 July 2018 22: 49
              Quote: dauria
              Or maybe the guys with machine guns just liked the “journalists” sneakers?

              and this does not exclude what I said - one does not interfere with the other, and does not even exclude the eating of the heart
              1. +1
                1 August 2018 15: 36
                Quote: Angel_and_Demon
                Quote: dauria
                Or maybe the guys with machine guns just liked the “journalists” sneakers?

                and this does not exclude what I said - one does not interfere with the other, and does not even exclude the eating of the heart

                Diamonds, hydrocarbons, etc.
                What was Bout closed for? He crossed the road to the troll with an Italian surname in the gray rough diamond market. It’s profitable for Amers and other arrogant Saxons to discredit the presence of Russia everywhere, in this case, of course, diamonds.
                So they sent for slaughter. You will take an interest in the composition of the founders of the Khodorkovsky Fund and it will become clear whose order. Security ran away? Or maybe they eliminated the journalists and staged an imitation of the attack.
            3. +1
              1 August 2018 14: 50
              Quote: dauria
              Or maybe the guys with machine guns just liked the “journalists” sneakers?

              taking into account the fact that the main shoes in the region are “slates” from a flattened plastic bottle and a pair of ropes, they can really kill for normal sneakers - all the more so, some pale person!
          3. +2
            31 July 2018 22: 31
            Quote: Angel_and_Demon
            speak plainly - planned action

            Quote: Dart2027
            I strongly suspect that these three SDGs were specifically sent there to kill, and then raise a cry about how bad our PMCs are killing journalists.
            1. +4
              31 July 2018 22: 50
              What did you want to say?
        3. 0
          1 August 2018 19: 07
          the journalists themselves could quite easily contact them through official channels


          You can not contact those who are not)))))
          where can I find their contacts?))) what kind of "official channel" ????))))
          1. 0
            1 August 2018 22: 56
            Quote: aquatic
            where you can find their contacts

            And how does PMC communicate with others? Any serious organization (not only PMCs) has those who deal with such issues.
            1. 0
              3 August 2018 18: 16
              Well, how does it communicate? you say this is some kind of PMC that she has that address is? contacts? Is the inn there? Bank account? phone? What else is there? Well, let's at least something already in the studio)))))

              how to communicate how to communicate))) mentally in fantasies)
              1. 0
                3 August 2018 21: 25
                Quote: aquatic
                how to communicate how to communicate))) mentally in fantasies)

                That is, it does not exist in nature?
                1. 0
                  19 September 2018 19: 17
                  exactly, and never existed
      2. +2
        31 July 2018 23: 25
        Quote: Oper
        The film about PMC Wagner was shot ..

        Is not a fact. Could and come up with on the go.
      3. +2
        1 August 2018 00: 14
        Here I am about that.
        Everything is known - it makes no sense to pretend. Only suspicions are superfluous.
  3. +3
    31 July 2018 20: 11
    that everything is covered with shadows
  4. +9
    31 July 2018 20: 13
    This is a complete mess if people go to a country where they are fighting without notifying the Ministry of Foreign Affairs! And even more so, those who sent them to death should be immediately questioned and taken at least under arrest! They then had to weigh all the risks, but in this case, greed for money became the cause of this tragedy!
    1. +13
      31 July 2018 20: 19
      "The Mikhail Khodorkovsky Investigation Management Center directed journalist Orkhan Dzhemal, documentary director Alexander Rastorguev, and cameraman Kirill Radchenko to shoot the film in the Central African Republic."

      If hands reach Khodorkovsky, you can even hang him for an intimate place, if he has one.
      1. +3
        31 July 2018 23: 47
        Moisha Hodor certainly has it, but the truth is in a slightly "shortened" form :-)))
        Oh, and I do not know if there are enough dimensions for hanging :-)))
    2. +8
      31 July 2018 20: 31
      Quote: ANCIENT
      greed for money

      This is not greed, this is the money of the State Department-Khodorkovsky!
    3. +4
      31 July 2018 21: 38
      Quote: ANCIENT
      This is a complete mess if people go to a country where they are fighting without notifying the Ministry of Foreign Affairs!

      Well these are from the demshiz ... how can they inform the Ministry of Foreign Affairs ???
  5. +3
    31 July 2018 20: 16
    Neither the Russian Embassy in the Central African Republic knew about the presence of journalists in the republic, nor Russian advisers to the president of the country, a source in Russian military structures told the agency.
    So advisers, or PMCs?
  6. +23
    31 July 2018 20: 40
    It seems people died, but there is no sympathy. Russophobes are scary. Jemal is an Islamist, Rastorguev is a maidanophile. I do not know...
    And the fact that now they will start pouring dirt on Russia from all sides, do not go to a fortuneteller. And it seems that this is not the case of Babchenko.
  7. +17
    31 July 2018 20: 45
    How much information and most importantly keakai: Rain channel and publishes information about the death of journalists, France Press reports on the death of journalists of the Central African Republic. Even more interesting, the journalists had fake Izvestia press cards. But the brilliant: they shot a film about PMC Wagner, with the money of the semi-criminal oligarch Khodorkovsky.
    Well, what else can I add on this info: It was necessary to take and make a movie about Afghan heroin, too, would not have found the ends!
  8. +1
    31 July 2018 20: 49
    Quote: Black_Jacket
    it would not hurt to mention those whose programs made these "experts" stars of Russian TV

    I will not dispute your proposal, because I have nothing against him
  9. Dog
    +10
    31 July 2018 20: 49
    "Center for Investigation Management Mikhail Khodorkovsky

    Everything is clear, I don’t even want to comment ... Here is a restless tribe ..
  10. +7
    31 July 2018 21: 02
    If they were from some "center" of Khodorkovsky and did not know about their arrival in the CAR, "neither the Russian Embassy in the CAR, nor the Russian advisers to the President of the country", then their death was their problem. Looking for topics for nonsense - not found. Created. Got into trouble. There they are and the road
    1. +1
      1 August 2018 00: 21
      do you know them
      me not?
      why behave in a cannibalistic way?
      it does not paint us in any way.
      1. +3
        1 August 2018 06: 23
        If they are journalists, they are required to be noted at the entrance. They did not do this; they ignored both the law and the safety rules. Of course, the Darwin Prize will not be pulled, but their death is their problem. By the way, it would be interesting to find out if they were journalists at all, with fake papers. Also, you know, criminal. Or will we now begin to mourn the shot serial killers, etc.?
  11. +8
    31 July 2018 21: 06
    such a company and for such money, it is clear that their task was to collect more negative information about PMCs ...
  12. +4
    31 July 2018 21: 07
    Journalists travel to hot spots only for "good" money with the hope that they will "carry". This time it didn’t.
    1. +6
      31 July 2018 21: 40
      Quote: Apollo
      Journalists travel to hot spots only for "good" money with the hope that they will "carry". This time it didn’t.

      and then there were no journalists !! request request
  13. +6
    31 July 2018 21: 15
    Quote: Apollo
    Journalists travel to hot spots only for "good" money with the hope that they will "carry". This time it didn’t.

    Carried, but liquid! (About Hodor's company)
  14. +1
    31 July 2018 21: 35
    How much is needed .. from kindness to stupidity .. I look forward to the headline yesterday .. killed / died / died 100500 thousand .. it seems like they shared ideas .. Khodorkovsky, Yeltsin, (someone else, it doesn’t matter) .. Comments. Yes, Yeltsin ur..kaz.chm ... People are no longer important people, with what their own. The ideology is important! This is the finish, gadget!
  15. +3
    31 July 2018 21: 42
    Yes, they probably said at the checkpoint that we are cool and work for Khodorkovsky, that we are Dartanyans, and you are all p .. here. they were taken to the side and shot.
    1. 0
      1 August 2018 20: 59
      Quote: Lieutenant Tarasov
      Yes, they probably said at the checkpoint that we are cool and work for Khodorkovsky, that we are Dartanyans, and you are all p .. here. they were taken to the side and shot.

      their gnictos did not ask for anything; there was no checkpoint, according to the driver. The curfew in this country from 5 pm shoot at everyone who is not sitting at home.
  16. Cat
    +8
    31 July 2018 21: 44
    But the Chinese said: "Do not pull the tail, if you do not know exactly who is on the other end" (C)
  17. +11
    31 July 2018 21: 45
    Quote: Black_Jacket
    The bald one on the right is Heydar Cemal, the father of Orhan.
    According to the views, the son was not far from the pope.

    Well then ... Although we will not arrange a festive fireworks, we will not particularly grieve.
    1. Dog
      +2
      1 August 2018 19: 39
      Quote: mavrus
      Well then ... Although we will not arrange a festive fireworks, we will not particularly grieve.

      Well done, Andrei laid out an excellent photo and everything is immediately clear ... And then here in "our media" they are trying to present them almost with heroes ...
      There were sponsors of these, first Berezovsky (on fire in hell), and now Khodorkovsky .. ALL questions are not at all! There and the road to them .. negative
  18. +1
    31 July 2018 21: 49
    Would be boo boo boo
    Dima is sitting on the coffin
    blowing fun into the pipe
    come and old and young
    retired if not happy
    if the pension is not happy
    you can ..... immediately to hell.
    in the coffin lies the people
    possessed patriot
    and swollen liberal
    Dima did not give a pension ...
    There is bohemian sky color
    Silicone ate itself
    With them the children of the oligarchs
    Airplanes of the patriarchs ...
    The old woman and the little girl
    Drunk to strip the half
    Handicapped people with disabilities
    So as not to spoil the road
    We have already reached the bottom
    And got to g .... on
    Tells us money odd
    And again, shamelessly lying
    You have reached these strata
    What flows from the head

    This cash gave on
    Bolt already seen
    Pension all funds
    Rounded your muzzle
    And with benefits for children
    Go around the people.
    Jorg
  19. +13
    31 July 2018 21: 50
    It’s a pity that Venediktov was not taken with him. Although this is in such a batch of figs lure. Even for a lot of money. laughing
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    2. Dog
      +1
      1 August 2018 19: 41
      Quote: Captive
      It’s a pity that Venediktov was not taken with him. Although this is in such a batch of figs lure. Even for a lot of money. laughing

      This cunning genetically senses where you should not go and chat .. wink
  20. +6
    31 July 2018 21: 55
    I don’t want to cry for some reason. request
    1. +9
      31 July 2018 22: 34
      I don’t want to cry for some reason.
      But why. We express our deepest condolences. As expected, we blame the terrorists through the Foreign Ministry, and at the same time the brainless policy of the curators of the Rain, and so on. We demand to punish the guilty.
      1. +2
        31 July 2018 22: 54
        Exactly, we take an example from the “partners”. Yes
      2. +1
        1 August 2018 22: 41
        You do not understand what to write.
        It is because of these people that our Foreign Ministry must now make excuses and prove that they are not to blame for their deaths. It is our military who are forced to answer questions - how did the citizens die and were not protected. Etc.
        And once again there is reason to blame everyone and everything in Russia. But it’s funny to you, it’s such a funny irony.
    2. +1
      1 August 2018 00: 24
      I agree, but dancing joyfully makes no sense.
      are the same people with their cockroaches, are we sinless?
      I think there are families and children, but they definitely did less harm to us than Chubais or Serdyukov ....
      1. +2
        1 August 2018 14: 57
        It is strange that they shot and did not eat, well, okay, think of three radishes.
      2. +1
        1 August 2018 22: 43
        And who are you to judge who did what and who did not? Are you a judge God?
        You are definitely not sinless, so what? And when will you dance with joy? When, according to Orhan, will they kill the Russians? Will it be a reason for you to rejoice? Those whom you agree that would have killed no families and children?
        When you support the scum, then share what they have done.
        1. +1
          2 August 2018 01: 23
          when you write this, what do you consume?
          where is it written that they are supported?
          you are the same ordinary fascist, evil and with cannibalistic tendencies, because you rejoice at the death of people.
          Moreover, people who did much less bad than the same Chubais, Serdyukov and other gang.
          1. +1
            2 August 2018 01: 37
            I repeat again for the gifted. Why did you decide that you can judge who has done more or less and who is the big gang? Judge, God or who else? Whoever has gotten into your head doesn’t mean anything.

            YOU called these same people, meaning like us.
            Quote: Sergey Ippon
            are the same people with their cockroaches, are we sinless?

            Is that not your words anymore? Quickly changed shoes.
            So - it’s you who are a fascist and a villain, since you are scattered with such words. I am sure that if you would pay attention to your comment, then EVERYBODY would not be very glad to compare yourself with these personalities. and you would learn a lot about your mental and social inclinations.
            And since these people are so dear and dear to you and you are so sorry for them and their families and children, but you do not give a damn about the families and children of those who are killed on their tip, those who suffer because of such scribblers, then you share their responsibility . No, I don’t know, maybe you can only chat and understand the responsibility for your words is not about you. Then, it's OK. Do not call a man anymore and okay. Do not dishonor other people other than you. That is normal.
            1. 0
              3 August 2018 23: 21
              you are an ordinary evil psychopath.
              especially when you come up with and write what you want.
              if they don’t write abominations about them, then they support? Does it mean dear and dear? - go wash and calm down.
              1. 0
                4 August 2018 00: 13
                You write too much filth and rudeness. But now we will see why.

                Suddenly, suddenly you are a coward and a hypocrite. This is not the first time you have been hiding for people, for others, instead of somehow acknowledging your words. for someone. You have someone all the time, not you. Because in life they are used to excusing themselves and shifting responsibility to others.
                Quote: Sergey Ippon
                if they do not write abominations about them

                And show abominations about them. I wrote about them abominations? I can give evidence for every word I say, everything that I wrote is easy to find, at least in passing by reading what people wrote PERSONALLY. "Come up" yeah, not all such balabol and cowards like you.
                You have one feature that says a lot about your character - you transfer the traits of your character to other people. Knowing yourself, your cowardice and deceit, you try to smear others with the same. Hypocrite.
  21. +9
    31 July 2018 22: 22
    It is more likely that Khodarkovsky specifically sent journalists there to kill them there and present all this as revenge on the mythical Wagner PMC ...
    These were sacred sacrifices to imagine that supposedly there are Russian PMCs that kill everyone indiscriminately ..
    1. +4
      31 July 2018 23: 49
      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
      It is more likely that Khodarkovsky specifically sent journalists there to kill them there and present all this as revenge on the mythical Wagner PMC ...
      These were sacred sacrifices to imagine that supposedly there are Russian PMCs that kill everyone indiscriminately ..

      hi I think that you are close to the truth, comrade Ratmir_Ruazan!
      I won’t be surprised if this is the eve of a scandalous publicity for the show, which soon appeared to be “most truthful” pro-American media, which supposedly “unexpectedly appeared” (as an option “bought by an unknown witness from Khodorkov’s,” even if it survived by a miracle (this cross, point blank, shooting, a car and people in it, from an automatic weapon, not finished off winked , or is this taxi driver an accomplice of "armed robbery", provocations of pro-American intelligence agencies?) of the driver of the car, "to whom the deadly truth-seekers were handed over for storage ?!" insignificant in our liberal view, inconsistencies and roughnesses, distortions in the actual material, "only an unexpected villainous murder of infrequent journalists" by those who did not want to document their activities in the Central African Republic, who categorically do not accept the never-biased investigation of our now deceased , unworthy journalists, our dear liberal viewers and “hawking people”, guess three times where these villains from the country come from with the letter “R” ?!) the most true libel to the Russian PMC Wagner and, take above, Russia as a whole, with frank allusions to terrorist activity is a noticeable "trend" of American "partners" and the resources they feed en masse th misinformation! (Some, very stupid, figures of the Washington administration after all allow themselves such public accusations against Russia, and then (when caught in the language) they say that they were heard incorrectly ?!)
  22. +2
    31 July 2018 22: 23
    And d and about s, well, if I really wanted to "dig" on the WB, then what the hell was to drag in the Central African Republic ... We would go somewhere to London, and there they would "shoot" about the Great and Terrible, pictures of "bloody atrocities" would have downloaded on the Internet and otfotoshopili ... "Documentary video" would have ordered in Hollywood ... And cheap, and beautiful, and very democratic ...
  23. +7
    31 July 2018 22: 31
    Along the way, the black local boys are clearly familiar with concepts such as “liberoids”, “echosquos”, “fifth column”, etc. And Khodorkovsky in general for them is hell. Therefore, the SDGs in vain sent invaders to the CARs. The tsar’s brotherhood for Russia’s mother will easily tear anyone into the German flag, pull it toko!
    1. 0
      1 August 2018 00: 25
      it is unlikely)
      most likely go here!
  24. +6
    31 July 2018 23: 19
    I don’t understand, so many comments and all about nothing. Shot our people, especially journalists. I am pretty sure that it could not have been a robbery. We need to express condolences and think about how to punish those who did it.
    1. +4
      31 July 2018 23: 49
      I am pretty sure that it could not have been a robbery.


      Now imagine that you shy away at night ... no, not in a country where there are no laws and police, where semi-gangster groups with machine guns roam. And just in the night district of a normal Russian city in the mid-90s. Without even showing that you have something to take. What is the policy in FIG? Yes, their faces didn’t like, and it was pretty decent with equipment, and maybe the car - well, they shot and dragged into a ditch.
    2. 0
      1 August 2018 01: 32
      In fact, they were not journalists. This is the standard cover for PMCs.
    3. 0
      1 August 2018 19: 19
      everything is right, only they are NOT our people, and they did not go there to raise their homeland or defend its honor) these are enemy soldiers, let them be soldiers of the information war, but such a war also leads to casualties. this time the victims are not from our side but from the enemy, so the feelings of our condolences are very limited
  25. +3
    31 July 2018 23: 22
    Does Putin have an alibi for this evening? what He loves hunting. laughing .In Africa, Yastrzhembsky sags / or like him, in general, Yastrebzhensky /. When EBN I didn’t cut fillets, from politics I washed off in time, built a hacienda and preys on elephants with leopards. Somehow let slip in his interview film that he often guests from Russia try their guns ...
  26. +4
    31 July 2018 23: 41
    Condolences to the family
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    2. +5
      1 August 2018 00: 28
      Condolences to the family, trouble has come.
  27. +5
    1 August 2018 00: 12
    Despite my attitude to the activities of the deceased, and perhaps it’s other people in general, I am immensely sorry for them, humanly sorry. No one would like such a fate, whether I like them or not.
    1. +4
      1 August 2018 02: 10
      IT IS BETTER TO PIT THE CHILDREN THERE ARE HUNGER THERE AND ARE IN SEXUAL SLAVERY. and these journalism here is not a gram is not a pity, obviously loot worked out. I will not believe that they conducted a real journalistic investigation.
  28. +4
    1 August 2018 00: 19
    Reason for response. When the Union reacted. Clearly, firmly and inaudibly ... now - shit inaudibly ... blea ..
  29. LMN
    +4
    1 August 2018 00: 41
    As a citizen of the Russian Federation living in Germany, at one time (there was time before the election of the President of the Russian Federation), he turned to the Consulate of the Russian Federation with the question: what should we do (or rather his wife and daughter, who are also from Germany) if war suddenly begins.
    And I got a very specific answer.

    T.ch.I will not believethat the Russian Federation suddenly left them there alone.

    Russia does not abandon its good
    1. +1
      1 August 2018 00: 52
      Only now, the guys in the Central African Republic did not reach the Russian embassy, ​​which "does not abandon its own"
      1. LMN
        +6
        1 August 2018 01: 31
        Quote: Challenger 70
        Only now, the guys in the Central African Republic did not reach the Russian embassy, ​​which "does not abandon its own"

        There is no such confirmed information that they went to the Russian embassy.

        No info official. Who is this at all!

        They considered dumb apparently (if it is confirmed that they are the city of Russia) they will turn to the state for support, well, it’s their own fault!
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          1. LMN
            +5
            1 August 2018 03: 39
            Quote: Beltasir Matyagu
            Agitators and provocateurs go pouring shit on Russia (get ready). The place is wild. Slap, and no scum. When he saw the inscription Jemal immediately began to hold his fists for good luck. I hope they cut the pascud. Elder still to liquidate, yes Pozner expensive wine choked with a fatal outcome in general if the song was.

            When Jemal heard, in the context of the message, he smiled winked
          2. +1
            1 August 2018 09: 11
            If about geydar, - so he has been feeding the guri near Alma-Ata since the age of 16. And Posner - @ - will survive a hunchback too. If he does not choke, yes. drinks
      3. LMN
        +3
        1 August 2018 01: 42
        Quote: Challenger 70
        Only now, the guys in the Central African Republic did not reach the Russian embassy, ​​which "does not abandon its own"

        No of. info: where did they go ?!
        No of..infa: who died there at all?
        And one more question: “guys,” who is this? Our friends, enemies, outside help?
      4. +6
        1 August 2018 02: 06
        Where did you see yours there?
        -This is a clear hostage from Hodor, so the embassy is not aware of them, but probably the State Department was in the know.
      5. 0
        1 August 2018 17: 09
        Why didn’t you go with these guys?
  30. +5
    1 August 2018 01: 13
    Zheltushnikov slammed as a result of an attempt to "work" for CIA grants Yes
  31. +4
    1 August 2018 02: 03
    Well, see the movers of the “Hodor” quickly calculated and written off to non-combat losses. There would send 80% of all zhurnalyug, then peace and prosperity would come.
    1. LMN
      +3
      1 August 2018 03: 12
      Quote: vkfriendly
      Well, see the movers of the “Hodor” quickly calculated and written off to non-combat losses. There would send 80% of all zhurnalyug, then peace and prosperity would come.

      About "hodora" .. I do not understand honestly feel

      If about Khodorkovsky, then why discuss it here? what
      1. +4
        1 August 2018 10: 29
        Quote: LMN
        If about Khodorkovsky, then why discuss it here?

        Yes, because the dead worked for him - they shot another paid campaign for bloody tentacles of Putin's regimeextending to Africa.
    2. 0
      1 August 2018 17: 08
      And behind them are idiots and fascists, then the world would have a rest without you.
  32. +4
    1 August 2018 02: 56
    Well, if Zek Hodor lit up there, then everything smells were by no means roses. Novaya Gazeta, Hodor ... doesn’t smell very good, however.
  33. +3
    1 August 2018 03: 09
    Good cover for recycling rain rain. You take Posner or someone else you send to Africa and lodge them there. Not bad
  34. +2
    1 August 2018 03: 12
    Oppressed by the inhuman Putin regime in the person of PMC Wagner, did African universal people quickly explain to Khodorkovsky's raincoats about universal values? I don’t see anything surprising.
  35. +1
    1 August 2018 03: 52
    Jemal is a well-known journalist ... the scandal will be considerable, they will certainly find the hand of anyone who needs it ....)
  36. +1
    1 August 2018 05: 06
    It’s a pity the men but I think they knew what they were going to !!!
    1. +3
      1 August 2018 06: 02
      Of course they did. They wanted to pompously present a whole film about Wagner’s PMC, about which no one really knows anything, to burn the Kremlin’s hand (interesting for those who are huge connoisseurs of Arab language and habits to hang out there near the leadership? I doubt the education - 10 classes of at least the aforementioned comrades together with Khodorkovsky), of course, this is not done with the guarantee of the embassy. Fools are stupid (quote from Knuckles - Upset from USA)
  37. +4
    1 August 2018 05: 25
    There is only one question .. WHY REMOVED? and what are the goals? clearly in a negative way .. then maybe it’s their way there! stick their nose where they don’t ask!
  38. +4
    1 August 2018 06: 05
    reduced the burden on the pension fund, but hardly consciously, out of love for Medvedev and Siluanov
  39. +2
    1 August 2018 08: 19
    Pure water staging, the driver was left alive, the car was not stolen, and then the most valuable thing - the foreigners themselves were crushed who could be exchanged or sold.
    Condolences to relatives.
  40. +4
    1 August 2018 08: 59
    I recall the words of the classic of Soviet children's literature, K. I. Chukovsky. Do not go children in Africa for a walk. Although almost a hundred years have passed since the writing of these lines, they all also reflect the situation. The backwoods of Africa are not rallies of a systemic opposition in Moscow, where "the bloody hand of Putin’s gebni throws children into the dungeons." Which, at the same time, remove the whole process of putting oneself in the dungeons on smartphones and tablets, making posts on social networks and online broadcasts. And no experience of being in the hot spots of the post-Soviet space will help. Since the situation is different and the mentality of people. I recalled a broadcast on Vesti FM in which Satanovsky talked about ethnic crime in Europe. And the conflict between the Somali bandits and the Chechen, which ended in the complete victory of the Somalis. For one simple reason. Somalis at the “negotiations” did not divide the sphere of influence, but immediately upon arrival began to shoot. And something tells me that in the depths of the African continent the approach to "communication" is not very different from the Somali one.
    An unfamiliar car is equivalent to either danger or easy profit. But in that and in the other case it is necessary to shoot at her, just in case.
  41. +3
    1 August 2018 09: 25
    Condolences to family and friends.
    As for the death of our compatriots, then all this is strange!
    People with experience working in hot spots, in countries with high criminogenic conditions are seriously preparing for business trips, are working out security measures for routes, security, etc.
    The likelihood of an orderly nature of the murder is very high.
    I read negative Comments on the article about the dead, it’s wrong, it’s not so, they were our compatriots and did their work, even though many did not like their point of view.
    1. +4
      1 August 2018 17: 03
      Our compatriots who wished death to our people. Orkhan Dzhemal repeatedly shouted in the programs - for the fact that you climbed into Syria you will have terrorist attacks and kill you at home. And your soldiers will be taken home in coffins. Are these our compatriots, our people, and so on? People who called for killing Russians. And the Russians did not want to interfere with the goals of Turkey and various groups in the Middle East.
      Think what you say.
  42. +7
    1 August 2018 09: 56
    The film was commissioned and paid for by the Investigation Management Center (SDG), funded by Mikhail Khodorkovsky. Those. people didn’t go to find out “whether there are Wagner’s mercenaries in the Central African Republic” and “do they even exist in nature” - they went to make a film about it, they needed any shots with the Russian-speaking military, the rest was a matter of technology. We drove illegally; they had press cards from the Izvestia newspaper. The newspaper Izvestia did not send them anywhere. The documents were used bluntly as a pass to the war zone, in a country where there is a civil war. Those who sent them have already started urgently replaying and saying that "the guys went just to make a film about Africa." Yes of course. Khodorkovsky sponsors strictly a video about zebras and elephants, for sure.
    Earth is glassy to them ......
  43. +2
    1 August 2018 12: 14
    Quote: Nikolai Grek
    Quote: Apollo
    Journalists travel to hot spots only for "good" money with the hope that they will "carry". This time it didn’t.

    and then there were no journalists !! request request
    If you don’t read the articles, then read at least the headings.
  44. -1
    1 August 2018 15: 20
    Well, here it’s clear to the goat that the journalists were killed by the illegal armed groups affiliated with the Wagner PMC at the “big request” of this very PMC. This, as they say, is visible to the naked eye. And all the other "versions" are nothing more than speculations on the topic and attempts to divert attention.
  45. +3
    1 August 2018 16: 17
    They worked for Khodorkovsky ?! Well, they are not the first whom he sent for slaughter.
  46. +6
    1 August 2018 17: 00
    I will not say about the first two. But Orhan Cemal was a nasty creature. Now someone is crying, someone is telling tales. Someone speaks strictly and on business. Watch programs featuring Orhan on TV and the Internet, read his articles. This man, who says that he is from Russia, has always served the interests of people opposed to our country. It was he who constantly lobbied the interests of the Islamists in Syria, told that our troops would meet there and what kind of reception they would organize, that we would bring the corpses home. For him, these were not our guys, for him they were opponents of the interests of its owners. Remember with what scream, and his voice is very loud, he defended the interests of Turkey, both vowels and non-vowels - its terrorist brigades led by special services. Everywhere only against Russia And how could he cover it with dirt.
    I also suggest recalling his father, Heydar Dzhemal. There was also a very famous person - a human rights activist !!!
    A man who defended the interests of visitors. As well as the interests of the Muslim population of Russia against the rest. This is his idea with which he rushed about in publications and on TV - the creation of Muslim regions in large cities, such as Moscow. As he said this himself - a closed area, such as the Zolotoy Klyuch LCD (if I spell the name correctly) where there will be security, armed, where they will go through the passes, only Muslims will live, they will have all the infrastructure there so that they can Do not touch the outside world. Knowing the interests of him and his son Orhan, you can understand what kind of structure would flourish there and who would prepare. It is good that in due time Luzhkov was changed and his plans were not destined to come true.
    Once in a program, an elderly expert hinted to Orkhan that he and his father often defend IS interests. For which Orhan attacked him after the transfer.
    Was Orhan an opposition journalist? No, and never will. This is not the opposition. This is the enemy. The opposition also loves their homeland, their country, but does not share the path of leadership of the country. And those who oppose the country, against its people. Those who defend the interests of terrorists write custom articles where they denigrate everyone and everything is the enemy.
    I will not mock and say that I am glad of the death of such people - this is not so. I am not happy about their death and I will not talk about karma. But on these villains, their own leadership is already starting a new dance. It is already said and supported by our wretched that this Russian government is to blame for their death, should it not have prevented them from going there, unless it has been a long time to allocate a company of soldiers and several tanks for protection, and so on. One and other structures are blamed.
    And according to rumors, they even drove in as tourists, not as journalists and were not accredited, so what was there to hide?
    I am sure that they were killed for a reason. Surely they got to local terrorist groups and it ended in disastrous condition.
  47. +4
    1 August 2018 18: 07
    Quote: bulvas
    I don’t know the others, but somehow I don’t feel sorry for Orkhan Dzhemal

    In 14, Radchenko rushed with a letter in support of poor Ukraine tormented by unscrupulous Russia ... THERE IS AN ENTIRE COMPANY THE FRIEND WAS OTHER.
  48. +1
    1 August 2018 22: 20
    God, they are the judge!
  49. +1
    4 August 2018 00: 27
    Quote: Red_Baron
    You have one feature that says a lot about your character - you transfer the traits of your character to other people. Knowing yourself, your cowardice and deceit, you try to smear others with the same. Hypocrite.

    are you about yourself
    unfortunate, but better not to write, all this is ugly.
    1. +1
      4 August 2018 15: 44
      You throw arrows again, that’s how you think.
  50. +1
    4 August 2018 14: 49
    We will not argue, but it turns out that we get to the bottom of the words.
    Quote: Dart2027
    The fact of the presence of “Wagner” at the reception is beyond doubt? As well as the fact that a random person does not get there?

    The fact of presence does not cause. But it seems to me not obligatory that having been at the reception is obligatory as connected with the president.
    Quote: Dart2027
    Any PMC is a tool of special services. Of course, these structures can work simply for money, but priority will always be given to the instructions of the "office". That is why they exist.

    I will not argue the same, but I remain of my opinion that in most cases, part of the PMC idea is just outsourcing.