Strange flight of the F-35 Israeli Air Force. Why did the "invisibility" reveal itself?

The network has materials relating to the route of the latest fighter F-35 "Adir" of the Israeli Air Force. Attention is attracted by the fact that the route of the stealth aircraft has become generally known on the Internet. Data on the flight of the Israeli combat vehicle were presented on the website Flightradar24, which is an open air traffic tracking site.

Attracted the attention of the publication on this site from 23 July. In fact, any user of the network could observe how the F-35 “Adir” was moving during a combat mission. The plane took off from the Nevatim airbase, passed along the Mediterranean coast of the country north of the Gaza Strip, then made several laps in the airspace in the area of ​​the city of Haifa.

The coding, which at that moment was “highlighted” on the mentioned site, says that it is one of those planes that were recently transferred to Israel by an American manufacturer.

It can be assumed that the entire flight was “broadcast” on the network due to a non-switched transponder. This raises the question: was it a crew error or was some goal pursued?

At the same time, some users noted that the very fact of transferring F-35 flight data to the Israeli Air Force’s network could well lead to “the first loss of an F-35 aircraft in stories"If any of the" friends "of Israel had an idea to strike at the fighter.

In the command of the Israeli Air Force, the situation has not yet been commented.

Comments

[demo]

Do not look for a black cat in a dark room.
There is just sorrow from the mind.

[Insaider]

Strange flight of the F-35 Israeli Air Force. Why did the "invisibility" reveal itself?

Ordinary Ponte Jews .. Like here on the site! Simply provoke our air defense in Syria .. We know these little things in Israel. Insolent and cynical, Can anyone plant them in Russia and confiscate property? After all, they run into ..

[voyaka uh]

Does mind completely refuse fierce malice? The plane conducted a training flight in its own territorial waters and returned to base.

[NordUral]

My friend, in simplicity, you really can’t blame a Jew.

[sir_obs]

My friend, in simplicity, you really can’t blame a Jew.

With this in mind, it can be assumed that the device was equipped and, in order to justify this, they included a transponder, such as we found ourselves. And so it is invisible, well, just completely.

[Shurik70]

the fact of transferring data on F-35 flights of the Israeli Air Force to the network could well lead to the "first loss of the F-35 aircraft in history" if one of Israel's "friends" had the idea to strike a fighter

Those friends who can afford to knock an Israeli plane over neutral or Israeli territory do not have fighters.
And those who have fighters can not afford to bring down before the declaration of war. Without an announcement, perhaps Jews and NATO attack.
Most likely, the headache of a pilot who forgot to turn off the transponder.

[hydrox]

[quote = Shurik70] [quote]
Most likely, the headache of a pilot who forgot to turn off the transponder. [/ Quote]
Well, yes, the transponder is turned on, but there is no radio communication and there is no one to indicate ... ;-))

[Shurik70]

Quote: hydrox

there is no radio connection and there is no one to indicate ... ;-))

There are hundreds of transponder marks on the radar. And constantly moving.
Now, if they notice with the transponder turned off, then yes. Being watched. And for those who are on, the eye will blur. And he will see what civilian (which happened) - he will be surprised, and nothing more. There is no reaction like “give urgent contact with the headquarters of the Air Force”.

[smile]

NordUral
Sorry, but what's the difference in whose hands the planes?
if they are included in the aviation of any state, then they will be used as the leadership of the armed forces of the country wishes. Shoals in the armed forces are everywhere. And we, and the Americans and the Indians, and, damn it, even the Lithuanians, despite the fact that the Lithuanian Army, this is a joke .....
Plus, one should not forget about the deliberate actions of any Army of any country, with the aim of misleading the enemy, real or potential.
This is common to all.
And not only to Jews. Ours, too, indulge in such things ... do you think such events are invented exclusively by Jews who have not left the Russian Federation? :)))))
But, of course, since the Israeli Armed Forces are supported in a high degree of readiness, and quite often fights, even now for the little things, they have fewer shoals than Indians ... we draw conclusions ... but we don’t have to blame everything on the evil character of the Jews, conquered the galaxy without a spacesuit .... :))))

[Rebus]

Flying a plane in the waters is epic.

[Sergey39]

Anyway - the first downed f35 will be Israeli. I think this will happen soon. He really likes it

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Sergey39

Anyway - the first downed f35 will be Israeli. I think this will happen soon. He really likes it

Quite possible. The more saiocht participates in the b / d, the higher his chance of being shot down.

[Tusv]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

The more saiocht participates in the b / d, the higher his chance of being shot down.

What are you? Thought for a long time? Russian air defense doesn’t work that way, and yours too - There’s no second time and never

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Tusv

What are you? Thought for a long time? Russian air defense doesn’t work that way, and yours too - There’s no second time and never

Take care of your cheeks.

[Tusv]

And to do a sieve ?. Cheeks are growing. 89 kilo already

[dr.star75]

Bad news. Rather, f35 is not as bad as it is perceived on the VO, and it seems he is pretty "not visible." Rather, there were some sort of graters between Tzahal and the Russian Ministry of Defense, well, after a downed Syrian moment, the Moscow Region may have threatened something (we’ll type down). Dzakhal motivated invisible. MO, maybe I didn’t believe it. Then Tsahal decided to demonstrate the capabilities of f35. They turned on the transponder to be seen online, and like: now look on the radar.

[Skifotavr]

Yeah, F-35 put on an invisible bale ...

[nikoliski]

it will only make us some kind of acoustic hypersensitive microphones (like noise attenuators in the 30s) and infrared supersensitive arrays (see f35 for 1200 km with its infrared sensors the start of a ballistic missile, so you can also see it like that, no one canceled the heat from the nozzle )

[voyaka uh]

It's possible. But many thousands of such sensors must be installed. Link them to an information network. And then, all these costs are just to say: "he is!" Shoot it, it will not help. Stealth makes the cost of air defense much more than the cost of its breakthrough. That is the point.

[hydrox]

Quote: dr.star75

They turned on the transponder to be seen online, and like: now look on the radar.

Yeah, and now the Americans have done it: Jews gave a profile at different distances and angles. Good joke!

[Lycan]

Quote: Sergey39

Anyway - the first downed f35 will be Israeli.

Like, the Bally incident? They so lack a big mess in the region?

[Skifotavr]

Quote: voyaka uh

The plane conducted a training flight in its own territorial waters and returned to base.

So training or combat? The article says that combat. Although to be honest - I do not care. This meaningless information is not worth a damn.

[Skifotavr]

PS Was there a boy?

[Zubr]

Strange, I was thinking in my own airspace ..

[GEV67]

Alas, many have forgotten a good RUSSIAN saying - There is nothing to blame for the mirror, if the mug is crooked. Because of this, they are constantly looking for the extreme and the guilty.

[Axon]

what kind of reason are we talking about? ... conducted a training flight in its own territorial waters ......

[Setrac]

Quote: demo

There is just sorrow from the mind.

Quote: Insaider

Ordinary Ponte Jews ..

Rather, someone is trying to pit our two states.

Quote: Insaider

Can one of them plant in Russia and confiscate property?

Go to work.

[Kirill Dou]

And let's put you down?)

[Random]

Quote: Insaider

Ordinary Ponte Jews .. Like here on the site! Simply provoke our air defense in Syria .. We know these little things in Israel. Insolent and cynical, Can anyone plant them in Russia and confiscate property?

So if we fly with transponders turned on, then too ... "bang ponty ... clumsy" Yes ... you have the "logic" .... "iron-wood"

[Vladimir Shpakov]

They command you. You are for them an ordinary cockroach. Who are we"?

[Maz]

The case. It happens . And this is the "Gift" of Hollywood to the day of the Navy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9j6O1PF1Lk

[MPN]

But why ? It is possible to fly around the RTS to configure the equipment according to some parameters precisely according to F-35, which caused the need for even more accurate tracking of coordinates on the transponder ... And it’s not an ordinary task to invent anything ...

[Thrall]

The woman of sorrow did not know, the woman bought a piglet.

[helmi8]

Quote: MPN

It is possible to fly around the RTS to configure the equipment

Pavel, I am inclined to think that the author of this article, like most of those present on the site, has no idea about such practice as flying around air defense zones. Itself more than once flew on such tasks with the passed identification code ...

[MPN]

Greetings Sergey! To create a sensation from the working situation, this is the task of the media ...

[Solomon Kane]

A-35 in the sky of Israel - an eka unseen ....
But "Dmitry Donskoy" in the Strait of Belt, it is impressive ...... This is not a bird to drive the chicken coop

[MPN]

Quote: Solomon Kane

This is not a bird to drive the chicken coop

And that’s right ...

[Random]

Quote: helmi8

like most of those present on the site, does not have a clue about such practices as flying around air defense zones

Let me insert my 5 cents.
Checking air defense systems and the operation of secondary secondary radar radio systems (in common parlance by import they are called by transponders, and in "local dialect" by airborne transponders)
Now, if after launch you forgot to turn on "Svoi-Alien" in the "right position" and God forbid, and even took off with him, then you are waiting ... OPA and if it’s not working, they can also “land” voluntarily-forcibly
And if you didn’t turn on the JI, then you report to the request of your KDP or the RC of the EU ATC ... "the defendant is not working" and you "slap" further

[helmi8]

Yes, this is all true, I'm talking about checking the air defense itself. Well, here's an example: a task with a route comes from the CP, the CPO code has changed at 14.00, and you take off along the route with the old code at 14.20. And the bosses control - which of the air defense points "slandered the intruder", did not report on time ...

[Random]

Quote: MPN

But why ? RTS may fly around

The flight of the RTS is carried out by a special aircraft laboratory in the area of ​​the aerodrome, while LANDING systems (course-beacon groups, work of D and BPRM, ARP, RSBN) are USED.
On a combat vehicle, during an overhead flight of the RTS, their WORKABILITY and "tolerances" for flying are checked.
The air territory of Israel is small, so the need to turn on the transpoder when flying over its territory and in the area of ​​the action of the EC ATC ... MANDATORY

[MPN]

I kind of know what a flight of the RTS aerodrome is, but there are other options for flying around, namely in this case with respect to tuning (adjustment) directly for a given type of aircraft or its equipment.

[Random]

Quote: MPN

however, there are other options for flying around, namely in this case, in relation to settings (adjustments) directly for a given type of aircraft or its equipment.

I agree, but this is already .. TESTS, and the aircraft was adopted

[MPN]

Quote: Random

I agree, but this is already .. TESTS, and the aircraft was adopted

The plane was accepted, but the P-18 doesn’t want to see it (joke)

[Random]

Quote: MPN

The plane was accepted, but the P-18 doesn’t want to see it (joke)

Well, not such a joke This is not a "reviewer" but .....
When the An-80PPS was driven "south" in the 12s ... checked (compared) the avionics of one ... "grounded apparatus" , then after the first inclusion ... "reviewer" ..died ... "forever"
But although they "say" that modernized by Nizhny Novgorod is just the same and ... nothing , compared to the old .. of course

[Mih1974]

oh god you rub and uzhos sorry no "" icon.
It’s a great deal to shoot, and how it comes down to it - the solid “fall of the black hawk” and the “delta” detachment have corrupted ALL of their operations and have killed THREE members if I’m not mistaken.

[Thrall]

The flight was promotional

[Aaron Zawi]

I apologize for the idiotic question, but in the Russian Federation, combat aircraft take off for training flights without the transponder turned on? Even in areas of heavy traffic? And how can dispatchers coordinate civil aviation flights? In general, we have all planes if they do not fly on a b / d with flying included.

[andrewkor]

Do not forget, Dear, that your country has actually been fighting for 70 years, so be careful with transponders!

[Maz]

I’m sorry, Aron, not “I'm sorry.” Learn Russian better. Useful.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Maz

I’m sorry, Aron, not “I'm sorry.” Learn Russian language. Useful.

Thank you Maz, but you would either take Magen-David off or put on your underpants. For 20 years, loving Russia from Israel is like a hypocrisy, especially since there is a program for people like you:

Compatriots living in the CIS countries, Germany, Israel and the Baltic countries use the state program for resettlement to Russia to return to their homeland. 
- Basically, compatriots from among the citizens of the CIS member states show interest in the state program. Also, compatriots from Germany, Israel, the Baltic countries and others use the mechanism of the state program, RIA Novosti reports with reference to the press center of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation.

[Kirill Dou]

Russian patriots love to love (lol, pun) Russia in the distance)

[poquello]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

20 years of loving Russia from Israel is like a hypocrisy, especially since there is a program for people like you:

what? Israel for the right Jews? Who is not with us, is he against us? )))))))))))))))))

[XXXIII]

Quote: poquello

Israel for the right Jews?

yes ....

[alexmach]

Hmm ... but I recall that at school in the Russian language lessons taught to say "sorry" and not "sorry" ....

[Piramidon]

Quote: Maz

I’m sorry, Aron, not “I'm sorry.” Learn Russian better. Useful.

How many "philologists" live here. When they have nothing to prick or find arguments in the dispute, they begin checking the spelling of the opponent’s posts. You are not even interested in the topic of discussion, the main thing is to find errors in the text and get pleasure from it.

[Weyland]

Quote: Piramidon

How many "philologists" live here. When there is nothing to prick or find arguments in the dispute, they begin checking the spelling of the opponent’s posts

to find fault with the grammar of the opponent is one of the usual tricks demagogue, is in any training manual!

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: Weyland

to find fault with the grammar of the opponent - this is one of the usual methods of the demagogue, is in any training manual!

Maz on the demagogue does not pull. so hollow bolt.

[gladcu2]

Military aircraft in the airspace of the Russian Federation have zones where they turn off the codes "I own." Each such training is notified 24 hours to the airspace control group. With an exact indication of the place and time of turning off the "I own" code. As well as the point and time of inclusion.

All these key points are strictly controlled, with a report up to the level of the Air Defense Army.

In Israel, apparently there is no place where it is possible to disable the "I own" code. Or this place is strictly limited in size.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: gladcu2

In Israel, apparently there is no place where it is possible to disable the "I own" code. Or this place is strictly limited in size.

As for the place, this is a problem. You can’t argue with that.

[novel66]

Well, you still have territory, no matter how yours, but in Syria you are firing from there

[HaByxoDaBHocep]

With a place you have a problem) we are sent to serve in the army, so the distance, two elbows on the map.

[Random]

Quote: gladcu2

Military aircraft in the airspace of the Russian Federation have zones where they turn off the codes "I own"

Not zones, but BORDERS, because if zones are indicated, what kind of verification of air defense forces and means is (yeah, and do not forget to indicate the time, place, course, altitude, speed, route and flight profile)

Quote: gladcu2

Each such training is notified 24 hours to the airspace control group.

The MODE is introduced - Temporary or LOCAL, indicating the date, time, type of activity, area and levels, by sending the REPRESENTATION to the relevant centers of the Unified System for planning and coordinating the use of airspace.
Submissions for the establishment of temporary and local regimes are submitted by airspace users via the aviation ground data and telegraph network or on paper, including fax (i.e., filed by the military (or as in FAP airspace users ) to CENTERS (main, zonal and district), and not to "groups"

Quote: gladcu2

with a report up to the level of Army Air Defense.

Report Level - Central Control Center of Air Defense of the Russian Federation

[MPN]

Aaron I wrote an opinion above for what, and then military aviation, only transporters (when they go along the highways) mainly (this is ours) and in the area of ​​providing foreign dispatchers (if not a database or special tasks), inside they only coordinate their flight zones without transponders, as a rule, only with the recognition of a friend or foe ...

[Lord of the Sith]

Americans over the Baltic constantly turn off transponders on their reconnaissance aircraft.

[mvd ru]

article to revitalize the people in VO roasting stuff, all sluggish

[NordOst16]

So from burning and boiling it will become stifler

[Mih1974]

Do not compare your "mini-sausage stub" and the Biggest Country in the World . Russia has enough of both heaven and earth to fly and not disturb anyone.

[Random]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

And how can dispatchers coordinate civil aviation flights? In general, we have all planes if they do not fly on a b / d with flying included.

The question is very legitimate, but ... in our country, "citizens" fly along their strictly established local lines. BT and MVL, and the military (except BTA) fly along the flight routes and flights established in the special List and when applying, it is indicated that flights either in the area of ​​the aerodrome, but with access to supersonic zones, en-route flights and flights.
At the ATC Centers, civilian and military setcor sit next to each other.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Random

The question is very legitimate, but ... in our country, "citizens" fly along their strictly established local lines. BT and MVL, and the military (except BTA) fly along the flight routes and flights established in the special List and when applying, it is indicated that flights either in the area of ​​the aerodrome, but with access to supersonic zones, en-route flights and flights.
At the ATC Centers, civilian and military setcor sit next to each other.

Where to get so much happiness, in the sense of the area we have is not enough.

[Random]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Where to get so much happiness, in the sense of the area we have is not enough.

Well here ... as they say ... "se la wa" (joke)

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Random

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Where to get so much happiness, in the sense of the area we have is not enough.

Well here ... as they say ... "se la wa" (joke)

That is yes. Than rich.

[Vita vko]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

coordinate civil aviation? In general, we have all planes if they do not fly on a b / d with flying included.

in general, it is civilians who coordinate their flights with the military, and not vice versa, in Israel too.
The problem is that now there is a whole series of plums of military information about Israeli operations, which has never happened before. And apparently this misinformation and plums in the media have a clear vector for the provocation of a major war. My friends from Israel also confirm this.

[Shahno]

Well, of course, we have well-wishers. Fuss, afraid of a second Iraq ....

[HaByxoDaBHocep]

Envy silently, even military transport planes in Russia are so severe that they fly with transponders turned off, my son flew to the duty station on IL-1 from Novosib to Kaliningrad on July 76, so I knew exactly when he was flying out, by the fact that he SMS sent me "Take off", so the flyradar did not show their plane, then they boarded the ECB for refueling and took a batch of sailors on board and after that the plane was also not detected

[KVIRTU]

With included, of course. But the ATC mode, which the flyradar24 does not display (there are RBS and S).

[steelmaker]

At the moment, Israel is our enemy, but not an ally for sure. If the Defense Ministry considered the same, then for our Shell could get even.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: steel maker

At the moment, Israel is our enemy, but not an ally for sure. If the Defense Ministry considered the same, then for our Shell could get even.

Two words.
1. Israel is not our enemy. We are not at war with him! The times of the Soviet "universal love" for the Arabs and the same hostility towards the "Jewish" state - sunk into oblivion with the Union.
2. The carapace was Syrian, although it was made with us. Soft and sweet should not be confused - all the same, different concepts.
AHA.

[Mih1974]

Izrail is our Enemy. they "oh only business" modernized Sukashvili tanks and delivered UAVs to him (and do not say that they just sold it, there are no fools).
Izrail strikes at those who destroy terrorists and geeks with us, rescues such geeks as white helmets on their land, which the most gracious thing that can be done is to immediately shoot. Izrail treated terrorists at his place and the head of Izrail personally shook their hands in the hospital.
So we don’t have to lie here, Izrail is a Nazi, police state with elements of fascism (recall the program for the forced sterilization of black Jewish girls? ) and ALWAYS will be our enemy.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Mih1974

ALWAYS be our enemy.

Sir! Are you from the company of Michael the Archangel? Well, you, our Black-Hundred, colleague in the VO workshop, do not share the official policy of the Russian state - this is your personal position. But he still would not advise promoting his Black-Hundred views on the resource. The days of stubborn anti-Semitism are gone along with the CPSU. Do not stay in the past.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

Sir...

... just runs into paragraph (b) of the Site Rules:

b) Inciting ethnic hatred. This also includes the use of words and derivatives such as: crest, HohlandJew USA, Bulbash, Talaponet, chock, khachik, Azerbaijani, cross-eyed, Muscovite, Raska (general mention of Russia and Russianness in a derogatory form) and other similar turns of unnatural speech

Specifically, here:

Quote: Mih1974

Izrail ... Izrail

Well, crazy, what do you take? (with)

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Well, crazy, what do you take? (with)

Roma, hi! He returned from a command mission to one of the republics of the former Union. When I talked more closely with people - at 180 * I changed my mind formed by "our" media. Ordinary people are kind, sympathetic, ready to help a person in a difficult situation. This is akin to our mundial, when foreign tourists personally became convinced of the deceit of their official propaganda ...
And a colleague just wanted to get visitors to s ... h! Troll flood. This is when there is no knowledge and in essence there is nothing to say, but "VERY HOT"!
Somehow, however.

[Random]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

formed by "our" media

Dear Alexander remember the famous phrase from the movie ... "Take care of women"

Here and here ..... just do not need ... about "our media"

[Mih1974]

And you, dear, do not confuse "general coat with personal" !!
Well, Nuka, indicate where I mentioned "people of a certain nationality" and especially as enemies of Russia? Moreover, without attributing to me (very interestingly on what basis?) Imitation or even worship of the ideas of the Black Hundreds, you forget a little that at the time of the (short-lived) existence of the Black Hundreds, the state of Israel did not exist for hundreds of years and they did not have a single word about "state Israel".
Trying to shift the emphasis of my message from the Country to the Nation, you are not just lying, you are slandering me, to put it mildly - not good, but speaking rudely - take readers away from the facts I have mentioned.
If not only that was mentioned earlier, I can give a link to the Public Speech of the Israeli Army Soldier - a former mercenary of the Nazis in Ukraine and who trained them to kill civilians in Ukraine, and possibly (my guess) for the subsequent war against Russia. I also assume, on the basis of rumors about MOSADA’s coolness, advertised by Israeli citizens, that - a long time ago, he was in Ukraine not entirely "on his own initiative" and that his actions were approved by this special service.

[dr.star75]

At what pontoliki Israel is our enemy? Actually, we 2 times clashed with the Germans, lost 27 million. With the Japanese. the same is not sickly, they lost the fleet. The French burned Moscow. They fought with the Turks more than once (even a plane was shot down), But are the Jews and Israel to blame? Where is the logic?

[A. Privalov]

While the sofa experts will disassemble this conflict, those interested in the F-35 topic can admire the production line at Lockheed Martin. Warnings that are completely unnecessary since ... h, I can tell you that it was not me who invented the name of the video.

[Maz]

Unless with the purpose of studying of places of a probable bookmark. And so, we are not interested. We are interested in our lines.

[A. Privalov]

Quote: Maz

Unless with the purpose of studying of places of a probable bookmark. And so, we are not interested. We are interested in our lines.

I would also ask your lines, but I can not, for the complete absence of such. In addition to a dozen different-colored, hand-crafted T50 prototypes with various, the devil himself breaks a leg, multi-letter indices, of which hardly four were suitable for flying, to this day there is nothing in production. In the stories that the serial production of the Su-57 will begin soon - tomorrow, or next week, after shifting from 2014 (!) Of the year, the rashty simple-minded do not believe. About the installation of new engines only in 2023 — 2025 years have already begun to speak publicly. In other words, nothing worthwhile for serious serial production is expected until the middle of the next decade. At the staff issue bad F-35 already over three hundred long passed, and release good su-xnumx never started. So, dear Russian patriots from Tel Aviv, whether they are interested or not interested, will have to be content with contemplation not on their own, but on foreign lines.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: A. Privalov

Quote: Maz

Unless with the purpose of studying of places of a probable bookmark. And so, we are not interested. We are interested in our lines.

I would also ask your lines, but I can not, for the complete absence of such. In addition to a dozen different-colored, hand-crafted T50 prototypes with various, the devil himself breaks a leg, multi-letter indices, of which hardly four were suitable for flying, to this day there is nothing in production. In the stories that the serial production of the Su-57 will begin soon - tomorrow, or next week, after shifting from 2014 (!) Of the year, the rashty simple-minded do not believe. About the installation of new engines only in 2023 — 2025 years have already begun to speak publicly. In other words, nothing worthwhile for serious serial production is expected until the middle of the next decade. At the staff issue bad F-35 already over three hundred long passed, and release good su-xnumx never started. So, dear Russian patriots from Tel Aviv, whether they are interested or not interested, will have to be content with contemplation not on their own, but on foreign lines.

after your speech it is clear why you brought the vidos from this resource !!!

[XXXIII]

Quote: A. Privalov

Warnings that are completely unnecessary since ... h, I can tell you that it was not me who invented the name of the video.

You know why F-35 appeared, because C-400 gave the go-ahead ....

[A. Privalov]

Quote: XXXIII

Quote: A. Privalov

Warnings that are completely unnecessary since ... h, I can tell you that it was not me who invented the name of the video.

You know why F-35 appeared, because C-400 gave the go-ahead ....

Well, of course, of course! About the military exploits of the C-400 "epics of the Speeches tell a story" (c).
By the way, I will tell you an old joke.
- Firka, you know, your spouse always brags about his sexual adventures and victories.
- Oh, I beg you! Let the disabled person talk for the war.

[XXXIII]

Quote: A. Privalov

Well, of course, of course!

Indeed, the counterweight is needed ....

Two Jews meet.
- Personally, I did not like the Beatles. Burrs, false, and what only they find?
- What did you listen to them?
- No, but Moishe sang to me

[Weyland]

Quote: XXXIII

Personally, I did not like the Beatles.

used to talk about the Beatles, now about Pavarotti. And the oldest version of this joke that I know of is generally about Caruso (1873-1921)

[SETTGF]

Listen, not a specialist - A. Privalov! As the Russian generals spoke about the supply of S-300 to Syria, the Israeli leadership almost piled on their pants! And immediately Netanyahu flew to bow to V.V. Putin to Moscow ... Do not write nonsense, sofa strategist!

[borberd]

Why do you - "patriots", constantly this, slavish - "flew to the bow" (c)? And when does Putin fly somewhere on an official or working visit? He, too, do you think flies to bow?

[SETTGF]

borberd! Pe write nonsense! Probably only slaves of the Jews? Only Netanyahu bows and flies ... Putin "10 times" to the same president of any country does not fly! Do not write nonsense about our S-300, S-400 air defense systems! Do not write about what you do not know!

[Solomon Kane]

Very similar to McDonald's ad "Oh delicious and useful food " ...

How much, "USEFUL" - you decide ....

[dr.star75]

And you are not afraid that Russia will get tired of all this “public pro-industry”, and it will decide to “nullify” its backlog, which is “forever”. And then we will develop with sticks and fire. We have enough territory. And you?

[A. Privalov]

Quote: dr.star75

And you are not afraid that Russia will get tired of all this “public pro-industry”, and it will decide to “nullify” its backlog, which is “forever”. And then we will develop with sticks and fire. We have enough territory. And you?

What does the territory have to do with it? You have it full. I remember well the Russian outback of the end of 70's. I had the pleasure to visit those places again - a year and a half ago. For the better, there has been no change. Only the collective farm is no longer there, and at home for 40 years it has terribly decayed. From the village of horns and legs. The firewood from the nearest fishing line was dragged in (well, now it is allowed), water in the well in the next street, bread once a week, poop in the hole - a booth on the street. They, yes, have nothing to lose. There and so live almost as you say, "at the level of sticks and fire." After the "reset" they will be better? Sorry, but for what? Why are you ready to start "to develop with sticks and fire"? Do you have nothing to lose too?
Yes, our territory is small. The area of ​​Israel is equal to half of the Moscow region. 2 / 3 is a rocky, waterless desert. We do not have oil, wood, coal and other resources. We have a total 8 million population. Drop 2 million Arabs, old people, babies, army ... We have no place to retreat. We do not have the Urals and Siberia, where you can move the entire industry ... No, we are not afraid, "that Russia will get bored." We have 70 years living under the threat of destruction and not without the help of the USSR, and now Russia.
At the same time, Israel is a country with a stable and dynamically developing economy, low inflation, high GDP and per capita income, long life expectancy, excellent medicine, successful high-tech, powerful military-industrial complex and one hundred billion export. I wish you good health!

[nikoliski]

I wish health to Israel, for holy Jerusalem is the navel of the earth and the 3 center of world religions (for me if there is a choice to support Muslims or you in the war, I would prefer to help the Jews) I wish your country to live in spite of all adversity.

[A. Privalov]

Quote: nikoliski

I wish health to Israel, for holy Jerusalem is the navel of the earth and the 3 center of world religions (for me if there is a choice to support Muslims or you in the war, I would prefer to help the Jews) I wish your country to live in spite of all adversity.

Unfortunately, your opinion on BO is not popular. Alas...
Thank. And to you, all the best.

[Boa kaa]

It was a giveaway game. The transponder was not turned off so that our surveillance devices could not remove real data about its “invisibility”.
Well, if there had been an attack (which is almost impossible under the current policy of cooperation between the Russian leadership and the Israeli government), then after receiving a warning about the exposure of the aircraft to a firing station, the pilot would turn off the "chandelier" and perform an anti-missile maneuver to evade the missile defense attack. Then the “lens” would be the most valuable intelligence information. And so - well, it flew, well, it was lit up, but where is the data on its real stealth for our air defense systems? They are simply not there. And the whole tale.
IMHO.

[Random]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

The transponder was not turned off so that our surveillance devices could not remove real data about its “invisibility”.

Alexander ... the transpoder has nothing to do with .... "invisibility."
For this, there is a Luneberg lens, partially coated with conductive material, has huge (relative to true size) effective scattering area (EPR) in wide irradiation angles.
These devices are used for:
a) concealment of the actual value of the EPR of stealth aircraft.
b) to improve the safety of joint flights with aircraft of previous generations and better interaction with air traffic controllers.

On the F-35 there are 4 of them

[Dezinto]

Do not look for a black cat in a dark room.
There is just sorrow from the mind.

Do you think the pilot of the latest, ultra-expensive, military aircraft - did not know the invisibility that he is broadcasting on the Internet? Well, FIG knows ...

[Weyland]

Quote: DEZINTO

the pilot of the latest, ultra-expensive, military aircraft - the invisibility did not know that he is broadcasting on the Internet

It’s not a plane matter, but a pilot! If this pilot were pin.dossky (or, moreover, some Saudi) - I could believe that he went wrong. But so that the pilot of that country where the army is one of the best in the world, and where exactly the pilots are the elite of the army?

[KVU-NSVD]

I just flew without measures of stealth and using means of "visibility enhancement" An ordinary training flight - why shine the true characteristics of the EPR ... Penguin, of course, is a "controversial whole" plane, but with a combat mission the pilots would not have lit it

[A. Privalov]

I once wrote to the VO that after a number of cases when the F-35 aircraft were simply lost somewhere around the runway because of the aerodrome service personnel, the manufacturer issued a manual requiring pilots immediately after landing to open the lantern and raised hand mark their presence. Immediately after this, the technicians are obliged to place bright orange plastic conical chips around the aircraft, and in the absence of those, mark the silhouette of the aircraft with chalk on concrete.

[AUL]

Alexander, , you already explicitly indicate that this is a joke, and then here some "tankers" will raise such a srach!

[sabakina]

Alexander Privalov, why, in Israel, signal flares are prohibited?

[Demon_is_ada]

I think so ... all of a sudden the iron cumpole will take Hamas as a threatening object ... call the adnaka ...

[Mountain shooter]

There was information that the “Adirs” fly with Longren’s lenses (broadband reflectors) so that their true EPR could not be measured and calibrated by them. So it doesn’t matter whether he turned on the transponder or not. Fly in their airspace - their business.

[_Ugene_]

With sales of F-35, not everything is as smooth as planned -
http://expert.ru/2018/07/26/lockheed-martin-terya
et-evropu /

[A. Privalov]

Quote: _Ugene_

With sales of F-35, not everything is as smooth as planned -
http://expert.ru/2018/07/26/lockheed-martin-terya
et-evropu /

I hesitate to ask how things are going with the sale of the Su-57. Is everything as smooth as planned?

[_Ugene_]

so article about f-35 like

[A. Privalov]

Quote: _Ugene_

so article about f-35 like

Well, we are not going to waste time? The article is also not about sales. Everything is relative: there, they say, is not smooth, but here, as you can see, in full openwork. However, for the time being, it is not possible to oppose one’s own smoothness to someone else’s “non-smoothness”. Alas...

[_Ugene_]

well, if this makes it easier for you
therefore, with the main idea of ​​the article that I cited, you do not argue, and that’s good
and so, yes - it's a shame not that the cow is dead, it's a shame that the neighbor is alive

[dr.star75]

Do you sell it or buy it (f35)? We will sell it (su57), but you buy it (f35). What difference does it make to you how many will sell them?

[Vard]

The wrong toggle switch was turned on ... it happens ... I have turned on a broadcast familiar in vibe and I am aware of her adventures ... but a very thoughtful young lady ...

[SCHMEL]

F-35 Israeli Air Force. Why did the "invisibility" reveal itself?

because the 35th already sucks! Trump is beautiful!

“In November, we began deliveries of the first F-52 fighter jets,” the US president said, adding that the total transaction amount was $ 10 billion.

[APASUS]

The media is doing its job, inflated an elephant from a donut hole!

[HAM]

The reaction of the Israelis is much more interesting than the news itself .....
Out of nothing "make their nerves" ......

[cosmonaut]

so what’s that? the equipment is new, there is little experience. well, they have beguiled a little. we, too, at the rehearsal of the Parade, tanks sometimes stall.

[Rusfaner]

Demonstration of the flag.

[Double major]

It’s just that, except for the US Air Force, no one knew that he was invisible ...

[Gagarin77]

Israel decided to patrol the United States. I hooked up external suspensions and walked in full view of the radars. Yelling he is not invisible and reputation loss ...

[Mentat]

Quote: A. Privalov

Quote: XXXIII

Quote: A. Privalov

Warnings that are completely unnecessary since ... h, I can tell you that it was not me who invented the name of the video.

You know why F-35 appeared, because C-400 gave the go-ahead ....

Well, of course, of course! About the military exploits of the C-400 "epics of the Speeches tell a story" (c).
By the way, I will tell you an old joke.
- Firka, you know, your spouse always brags about his sexual adventures and victories.
- Oh, I beg you! Let the disabled person talk for the war.

You are a strange person. It is good that your leadership, judging by the visits and consultations, understands that what is needed is not stupid bravado, but accuracy in actions.

[CAT BAIYUN]

Yes everything is correct! The plane is invisible, and the transponder is visible. Well .... not yet finalized

[Zina389]

The funny thing is that Perdogan wants to buy 100 of them, but they don’t give him. As for Syria, why risk the 35th? While others are coping.

[Nikolay Kuznetsov]

And what are you boiling about? What should the Jews fear in the flight zone of this "coffin" ??? Over your territory ... and? Perhaps distracted from other flights, really invisible .. (as if)

[Maxim Kotov]

In common people, this is called "running a device on the lips" of the air defense of Syria, Iran and Russia: letting themselves be detected with the help of a transponder so that the regular air defense systems themselves could neither track nor aim.
As a reminder that they learn about the attack f35 by explosions at their facilities

[Whisper]

Quote: Maxim Kotov

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such as a transponder, but there is no plane? interestingly. first common sense in hundreds of comments