Mikhail Khazin: There was no revolution yet. Why elites are not able to organize a way out of crisis

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Mikhail Khazin: There was no revolution yet. Why elites are not able to organize a way out of crisisI have already returned to this topic many times, however, in the words of one of the founders of Marxism-Leninism, it is “inexhaustible, like an atom,” since the total number of nonsense that representatives of the elite do today clearly exceeds all imaginable and inconceivable limits, but they do not stop. Moreover, even the understanding of the need to radically change the ideology does not lead to any results, everything continues to be the same - that is, the structure of power continues to be shaken. Why is this happening?

It seems to me that the fact is that if the elite exists in more or less stable conditions during the life of one generation (conditionally - 20 years), then internal institutional ties are so strengthened that overcoming them naturally becomes impossible. Well, let's look at today's Russia. It has a mass of influence groups related to regions, industries, large property complexes, budgetary flows, and ministries. These groups throughout this time created a colossal complex of official and unofficial rules and documents, with which they defended their positions and legitimized their status. At the same time, informal rules include marriages of children, joint investment projects, neighborhood relations, and so on and so forth.

At the same time, the majority of those involved in these relations (for example, those who manage the personal property of officials) do not understand anything about the crisis at all. At best, they see that property income is falling, and this requires them to be more active, including using the administrative position of the “patron”, since otherwise one can lose the “bread” place. As for those who understand something, they are in an already extremely “balanced” system of relations, in which far from everything depends on them and, most importantly, in which specific levers of control are not in them, but in some specific performers.

I remember well how when I was the head of a department in the Ministry of Economy I “punched” important papers. It was necessary to personally go through the ministries, negotiate with the executors, sometimes it is a trick to sign these papers not with the supervising deputy ministers, sometimes to bring them directly to the ministerial level. But there was still the government apparatus, where, too, it was necessary to be “smart”. At the same time, there were problems inside the ministry, and here, too, it was necessary to know who, how and why. Already at the level of a deputy minister, such an opportunity is practically lost, for ministers it is practically excluded. But today our minister is a purely executive figure, he is not supposed to think - just look at the personalities. And this means that those who think cannot even break through the bureaucratic obstacles at least something that contradicts the general bureaucratic interests.

In this sense, the experience of the Economic Department of the President of 1997 - the beginning of 1998 - is very indicative. We (for the last time, we will note) managed to gather in the presidential administration a more or less integral “image” of the government - that is, to describe what, how and why it does. Both in terms of strategic objectives, and on individual issues. And we immediately became the object of an incredibly strong attack - not because we interfered (not so strongly interfered, for all the time we managed to cancel no more than a couple of dozen projects of government decisions, and the most harmful ones still managed to push the government), but simply because this picture was not consistent.

Based on this picture, President Yeltsin tried many times to somehow change the goals of the government’s actions, for example, to develop and adopt an industrial program and a program of economic restructuring, but he was simply cynically ignored (see, for example). But Yeltsin, in the end, removed the government, although, leaving, for the most part, personalities on the spot, so there was no fundamental change.

By the way, we note a remarkable situation with industrial and structural programs - the modern Russian elite, first of all the bureaucratic one, categorically refuses to do this work, like 15 years ago. And this is not an accident. All financial flows have long been distributed and shared. Sharing them again is difficult and disrupts the usual rhythm of life. If the president wants something - let him find new money, prove that they are not taken from any of the existing clans, and then let him give someone what he wants. He has no authority to redistribute "alien" money.

And it is clear why no one has such a right, because it stimulates intra-elite wars that drastically reduce the stability of the elite as such, putting it at serious risk. And it is not so important that this threat is already on the nose, because it will still not come today, and maybe not tomorrow, and the redistribution will be today. And for this reason, it is impossible to categorically allow him to be "self-made" to anyone.

It is for this reason that many in the Russian elite did not want Putin to return. The “family” group, most likely, played a key role here, since it was she who in the late 90's - early 2000's agreed with the main representatives of the Russian elite to solve all problems amicably. But the leaders of this group in the economy do not really understand, they are tightly oriented towards liberal models and for this reason, they most likely believe that the situation will worsen, of course, but not critical.

Putin, most likely, has a different opinion - he, as I have written more than once, most likely understands that the elite will have to be thoroughly “cleaned” (for absolutely objective reasons), and he translates his understanding to everyone, including “Family” group, which understands that it has a serious chance to get under this purge. And the more she intrigues against Putin, the greater this chance, and the more she intrigues.

What is the end of the matter, we, in general, are not very interesting, but simply this is a very typical development of the situation for any elite. Only in the West such groups are not one and not two, but dozens, if not hundreds. And as the crisis develops, such intra-elite clashes only intensify, and it’s another thing that, unlike us, they practically don’t get into the media. And it is clear that in such a situation it is simply impossible to make any reforms by consensus, since any reforms strengthen some and weaken others - and the latter insert all possible sticks into their wheels.

And before the appearance of a hard dictator who can break a system, is still very far away. Not only is the modern bureaucratic system severely restricting the career movement of “strong” people (I see it well by the way those who I knew knew from time to time in the civil service, are rejected by the system, and stupid opportunists make their career and unprincipled cynics), there is still no more or less intelligible "image of the future."

We all look to see if Napoleon, Boris Godunov or Stalin can grow out of Putin, but the latter had an action program, which they implemented. At the same time, he, and the other, and the third came to power after the revolution, but we still did not have it. And in this sense, the main question is: what, in fact, should Putin do today? Clean the elite under the size of the cutting "cake"? Yes, of course, he will do it to the best of his understanding. So what is next?

Actually, this is the main problem. True, so far, in Putin’s entourage, there is practically no one who could even put it - but this is where we will see. If such people appear, Putin will have prospects. If not, then no. By the way, this is a problem not only for Putin, but for the whole world. I have already said that we are in this sense a typical example today - there are also no people in power who have an image of the future. And the existence of the West in the same way depends on whether it can find and introduce such people into the elite. And if not, then in a few decades the world will be completely different.
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  1. zevs379
    +4
    17 May 2012 08: 36
    Actually, this is the main problem. True, so far, there is practically not a single person who is surrounded by Putin who could even put her - but this is where we will see. If such people appear, Putin will have prospects. If not, then no




    And what does Ivashov not like?
    1. +13
      17 May 2012 08: 56
      I will repeat myself. Elites in our country, in the majority, out of some kind of fright, began to call those unscrupulous raspberry-jackets who, in the 90s, ignoring what their mother taught, rushed to the top, “throwing” naive and trusting people through various schemes and pyramids. Where can most of these people have some principles aimed at the good of the country, except for one and the main thing for them - to make money. Let me emphasize - the majority. Because among today's successful political, scientific and economic figures there are not a large number of those who associate their fate with Russia and work on its rise. You can spit, vomit, but there are such people and it is stupid to deny it.
      Well, as you know - there is never much good ...
      1. +1
        17 May 2012 21: 26
        esaul,
        Well said. Where did you see the elite. They undoubtedly exist - Ivashov for example. The government would have more. Guarantor - I hope this is what I am doing now.
    2. bad
      bad
      +3
      17 May 2012 08: 56
      A naive Chukchi guy))) why does he need this ??? I would like - I would have already set
    3. +4
      17 May 2012 09: 05
      their directness and willingness to act
    4. +9
      17 May 2012 09: 36
      zevs379,
      Quote: zevs379
      And what does Ivashov not like?


      But Ivashov is too smart and knows a lot. And most importantly a patriot. Therefore, the GRU is smashing, seeing a certain potentially dangerous force.
      1. recitatorus
        +4
        17 May 2012 10: 40
        If Khazin understands this, if all of us understand this, then does Putin really not understand this ?! By the way, it will be necessary to look closely at the composition of the government, and not only at the commanding personalities.
        1. father tudy-syudy
          +2
          17 May 2012 11: 39
          Putin absolutely does not need people nearby who can somehow try to claim his warm place! Isn't that clear? As in Belarus - a dead political swamp, where, except for "father", people do not know anyone. When everything is great - there is a big PR, when the collapse comes - immediately some wordless and gray officials-saboteurs come up .. Extremely convenient position, isn't it? laughing
          1. +3
            17 May 2012 14: 08
            Quote: Father Tudy-syudy
            When everything is wonderful - here, but the father is being promoted, when the collapse sets in - at once some dumb and gray pest officials pop up .. An extremely convenient position, isn't it?

            - but as soon as the Orange Revolution happens, the father’s father-in-law will come to power and ruin Belarus laughing Ukraine was lucky - Yushchenko was quickly driven, he did not have time to finish the Independent. Will Belarus be so lucky? Not sure. The conclusion is that to eliminate such risks, the batsek tudy-syuda is simply to the wall. Believe me, I'm not out of bloodthirstiness, it's just prgmatics, just a choice of two evils - after all, even such Belarus is a lesser evil than Belarus, which was completely ruined by the Belarusian analogue of Yushchenko (a type of father-in-law tudy-syuda).
            Therefore, my advice to you is that you used your tudy-syudy for its intended purpose, in relations with the weaker sex, and in politics your tudy-syudy will harm you, yours will turn against you laughing laughing
          2. +1
            17 May 2012 21: 29
            But father tudy-syudy,
            Friends from Belarus arrived, the old man praised - and high-quality products and clothes, everything is in openwork. Where is the truth?
        2. frolovvgg
          0
          17 May 2012 21: 58
          People, when will we see the new government? It really hurts to want to see who is left .... and who is moved and where. But Khazin is a smart guy, why not try the Minister of Finance or the Minister of Economic Development for example ... And Vladimir Vladimirovich? lol
  2. Dust
    +7
    17 May 2012 08: 49
    The problem is that surrounding Putin's elite to call the language does not turn! THIS substance is not an elite, it is ..., yes, yes, the very thing you thought about ...
    1. +7
      17 May 2012 08: 58
      Quote: Dust
      The problem is that surrounding Putin's elite to call the language does not turn!

      A plus! There can be no elite from thieves in law and outside the law, from former clerks and secretaries ..
  3. bad
    bad
    +5
    17 May 2012 08: 55
    That is the point of Putin’s explosives management - to put weak and incompetent people around them so that against their background they seem strong and knowledgeable. A simple example is our ex, I apologize for the expression, the president. The same applies to almost all ministers - that of agriculture, that of health care, that of sport, etc. ... None of them are professional in their field, but whose brother-in-law, godfather, classmate ...
    1. recitatorus
      +5
      17 May 2012 10: 49
      Quote: plohoi
      None of them are professional in their field, but someone's son-in-law, godfather, classmate

      The golden rule of any enterprise is do not take into account either friends or, especially, relatives! There will be no sense!
      1. vpm
        vpm
        +3
        17 May 2012 12: 04
        In the bureaucracy, this rule is transformed into the opposite - do not take smarter than subordinate people yourself, otherwise they will sit. And so Khazin correctly says everything, in the upper echelons (to call them elite or not) a strong movement and struggle are coming. True, if there is no positive program for the future, then the power struggle will simply rock the situation in the country. If such a program exists, then one generation will replace another, and the previous one will simply be retired or somewhere else. The problem, of course, is outlined correctly, namely, what is the image of the future that Russia will build. Frames should be formed for this image.
    2. Evgen232
      0
      18 May 2012 05: 28
      what are you clung to Putin, then, at the top, there is some kind of very complex and veiled game. or we or us. that's why Putin is now less involved in domestic politics, there is stability and okay. if he fucked up ... t, then and we will be in ... opera. nato and the Yusovites at the head of the "Jews" will divide us all. do not bother the peasant to work
  4. +1
    17 May 2012 09: 08
    Everyone has long forgotten about the news of the unrest in Bolotnaya and the arrests of opposition leaders (and most of them have never been interested), and what, in fact, the latter are seeking. Except for the departure of Vladimir Putin. Meanwhile, judging by the "minimum program" of the "Left Front", coordinated by the "fiery revolutionary" Sergei Udaltsov, this is far from an idle question.

    The “front” program, it must be said, does not sparkle with novelty - most of its theses are clearly borrowed from its predecessors from the RSDLP and the CPSU: nationalization of fixed assets with the subsequent transfer of enterprises to the economic management of labor collectives (“factories to workers!”); seizure of illegally obtained property (“expropriation of expropriators”); the restoration of Soviet institutions of centralized economic management (Gosplan, I mean).

    In the sphere of foreign policy, Udaltsov’s associates strive to “achieve lasting peace on the whole planet,” but at the same time they are going to make friends mainly with members of the CIS and countries of socialist orientation, providing “all-round support to left and progressive forces around the world.”

    The ideas of the "Left Front" in the field of housing and land policy are also not original. Private land ownership is proposed to be liquidated, and only those citizens who process it themselves (without the help of hired workers) are allowed to use the land. And uncultivated plots (in excess of the size determined for a summer vacation) - to withdraw and transfer to others without any redemption. It is also planned to do the same with the “surplus” housing used for investment purposes.
    Read more: http://www.metrinfo.ru/news/96517.html
    1. Arc76
      +2
      17 May 2012 10: 03
      That is, you want to say that, following the example of the RSDLP, Mr. Udaltsov’s next step after assuming the presidency will be the introduction of military communism?
      1. recitatorus
        +3
        17 May 2012 10: 45
        Quote: arc76
        Oh, you want to say that, following the example of the RSDLP, the next step of Mr. Udaltsov after taking office is the introduction of military communism?

        And not only Udaltsov, but also any of their swamp gopa! Shooting competitors from a milestone to the bottom, it is hard to imagine what it will result in at the local level.
        1. +4
          17 May 2012 14: 12
          Quote: recitatorus
          And not only Udaltsov, but also any of their swamp gopa! Shooting competitors from a milestone to the bottom, it is hard to imagine what it will result in at the local level

          - I don’t see anything complicated. Passed already. And more than once. And again, not a walker, not a walker at all! am
          The conclusion is evolution is better than revolution. But the bureaucracy needs to be broken somehow, otherwise
  5. +4
    17 May 2012 09: 12
    Yes, in general, the most annoying thing is that we don’t have an elite ... no ... the elite has been forming a millimeter in ten years like black earth ... and here we are .... then scrofula ...
    1. +5
      17 May 2012 09: 48
      we have a group of citizens who call themselves the elite, and everyone else ... in various bad words. What is the elite? In the 90s, a man was a bandit or brought metal abroad, or ruined several factories - now in the Duma, or in London. Who is he? Elite? But he absolutely considers himself an elite. And why should he organize a way out of the crisis? And what a crisis - everything is chocolate with him, and fish is better caught in muddy water. Only before he jammed this fish with dynamite, but now he has a whole fishing fleet, everything is beautiful and legal. We also have an intellectual "elite", now all on "walks", the weather is so great! Well, where are these salaries everyone has heard. What is the way out of the crisis - they need it?
      1. +1
        17 May 2012 14: 20
        Quote: Middle Brother
        we have a group of citizens who call themselves the elite, and everyone else ... in various bad words. What is the elite? In the 90s, a man was a bandit or brought metal abroad, or ruined several factories - now in the Duma, or in London. Who is he? Elite? But he absolutely considers himself an elite. And why should he organize a way out of the crisis? And what a crisis - everything is chocolate with him, and fish is better caught in muddy water. Only before he jammed this fish with dynamite, but now he has a whole fishing fleet, everything is beautiful and legal. We also have an intellectual "elite", now all on "walks", the weather is so great! Well, where are these salaries everyone has heard. What is the way out of the crisis - they need it?

        - oh my middle brother, what are you talking about? Don't you know that our elite is an elite for all elites? "If you are so smart, why are you so poor?", "Moscow needs expensive toll roads so that only beautiful people can drive in beautiful cars!", "People start with a billion! If you don't have a billion, you are not a person and therefore follow ....! "
        Do you want to laugh? A horse named Ksenia Sobchak, who recently positioned herself as a representative of the elites, is now with the people. I sang something with Prafenov and some rapper, and the words are so popular !!! So I’m thinking - where is the real horse? - the one that was recently and the one that sings now? laughing laughing laughing Quite confusing sad
        1. +1
          17 May 2012 20: 25
          Quote: aksakal
          A horse named Ksenia Sobchak, who recently positioned herself as a representative of the elites, is now with the people. I sang something with Prafenov and some rapper, and the words are so popular !!! So I’m thinking - where is the real horse? - the one that was recently and the one that sings now?

          good The horse, I realized, realized that she’s almost nothing shines on TV (See on the pro-Georgian channel, the same - not a lot of honey and buns), after she spoiled these people.
        2. +2
          17 May 2012 21: 35
          aksakal,
          Yes, the horse suffered who bridles put on her. wassat wassat
          1. 0
            18 May 2012 07: 38
            Quote: Sandov
            Yes, the horse suffered, who will put the bridle on her
            - Yes, she needs to find a good stallion. laughing Here such a stallion quickly calmed another horse, I do not remember how it, Rynska, in my opinion laughing He gave her heartily and took her to the Alps to rest. Since then, it has not been seen or heard. And for Ksyusha there is no way sad
  6. malera
    +2
    17 May 2012 10: 52
    Quote: Tersky
    Quote: Dust
    The problem is that surrounding Putin's elite to call the language does not turn!
    A plus! There can be no elite from thieves in law and outside the law, from former clerks and secretaries ..


    Everyone chooses his own environment. If Putin chose his unworthy environment, he did it consciously. He is not stupid, I hope.
    1. +1
      17 May 2012 21: 36
      malera,
      Yes, he did not choose the environment, from EBN inherited. Try to smoke them now. laughing
  7. +5
    17 May 2012 10: 56
    The author's personal experience once again says - our bureaucrats, instead of creative work, are only busy running around the offices of other bureaucrats and punching through all sorts of papers. Remember Potemkin - he rebuilt Tavrida. He stole, but rebuilt, for him this was the goal of his whole life. Other "thieves" also who bred famous horses (Oryol trotters), who raved about the road from St. Petersburg and Vladivostok (and they built it under the tsar for 10 years!) Whoever you remember from the Tsarist and Soviet elite, all created something. And these, damn it, are running around the offices, signing orders "to cancel the previous order, ordering to cancel the previous order!"
    As a result, in the USSR there were three times less bureaucrats per capita than now! And this, mind you, without computers (supposedly speed up workflow) and without cell phones (supposedly speed up the process of communication).
    The saddest thing is that hardly anyone on top can do something. The middle link is very shabby and insidious, it can specially begin to slow down and the current processes are so sluggish. Moreover, I am sure that agents of the West, who work for the collapse of the country, are clearly following the middle link. They benefit from this corrupt swamp. A corrupt swamp benefits from the current situation of omnipotence and its own impunity.
    You can clean these stables only from below, taking out one scum and leaning on the scum in a crowd.
    1. +1
      17 May 2012 14: 26
      Quote: Magadan
      The author's personal experience once again says - our bureaucrats, instead of creative work, are only busy running around the offices of other bureaucrats and punching through all sorts of papers. Remember Potemkin - he rebuilt Tavrida. He stole, but rebuilt, for him this was the goal of his whole life. Other "thieves" also who bred famous horses (Oryol trotters), who raved about the road from St. Petersburg and Vladivostok (and they built it under the tsar in 10 years!) Whoever you remember from the tsarist and Soviet elite, everyone was creating something. And these, damn it, are running around the offices, signing orders "to cancel the previous order, ordering to cancel the previous order!"
      As a result, in the USSR there were three times less bureaucrats per capita than now! And this, mind you, without computers (supposedly speed up workflow) and without cell phones (supposedly speed up the process of communication).
      The saddest thing is that hardly anyone on top can do something. The middle link is very shabby and insidious, it can specially begin to slow down and the current processes are so sluggish. Moreover, I am sure that agents of the West, who work for the collapse of the country, are clearly following the middle link. They benefit from this corrupt swamp. A corrupt swamp benefits from the current situation of omnipotence and its own impunity.
      You can clean these stables only from below, taking out one scum and leaning on the scum in a crowd.

      - "The road to hell is laid out with good intentions" - not I said, one of the greats. And one of the greats (in my opinion Honore de Balzac) said (not literally) - the bridge is therefore stable, every brick that composes it, simultaneously with other bricks, tries to pursue its own and only its selfish goal - to fall down. But it is precisely this joint desire, without any gentlemanly desire to give way to another, and paradoxically leads to the stability of the bridge. Maybe look in this direction too? But what if?
      Well, all this is IMHO. I just suggested smile
      1. 0
        17 May 2012 20: 28
        Magadan,
        aksakal,
        I enjoyed reading your comments, colleagues! good
  8. Oladushkin
    +2
    17 May 2012 11: 33
    Here, fellow citizens, a matter of global importance. literally. Whoever before himself really sets up an elite of people-builders at the head of the state will win the race for survival as a country in the current global crisis.
    1. +2
      17 May 2012 14: 33
      Quote: Oladushkin
      Here, fellow citizens, a matter of global importance. literally. Whoever before himself really sets up an elite of people-builders at the head of the state will win the race for survival as a country in the current global crisis.

      - you just need to change the elite!
      In the States at Harvard, you are just like that, because you studied well at school and passed the exams well, they won’t let you in - there must be guarantors and recommendations from famous people who have proven their patriotism. Harvard graduates make up the backbone of the amer elite.
      We in Kazakhstan and in Russia - gravity. Who snatched (or rather, stole) in the 90s - he now attaches his descendants to his place by hook or by crook. And nothing that this descendant has in his head is empty, like in a jug, they find him an intelligent deputy, sometimes they even write him out from far abroad, and he plows. But at the same time, the first law to this deputy is the interests of his immediate boss. Khazin writes about this
  9. +1
    17 May 2012 11: 46
    I have repeatedly written about the need for a team of enthusiasts and patriots .... Putin does not have this ... and apparently will never be ... never.
    1. +1
      17 May 2012 15: 47
      Vladimir Putin holds them in prison: Kvachkov, Khabarov, Arakcheev.
      But the liberal schiz feels great. All media are occupied by them. There is a cloud of anti-people’s organizations on state money, such as HSE, Insor, the public chamber.
  10. Nechai
    +1
    17 May 2012 14: 11
    Quote: Dust
    This substance is not the elite

    This is their SELF-NAME. Well, they can’t call the Chess word what they are in real life. You can’t even let them into a tribe - degenerates. Yes, actually they do not seek. There is a sadistic homosexual diluted with lezbies and other ... filaments. They will never want to voluntarily, calmly break away from the trough of financial flows. Actually, society has no alternative whatsoever. Or they all lead us all further to perdition. Or without them, a fast consolidated leap forward.
  11. +1
    17 May 2012 15: 01
    It seems to me that Putin is different. It was during his first term that he was promoted by the same "family" and owed something to her. Now he owes almost nothing to anyone. That is why he needed a victory in the first round and the clear support of the Russians.
  12. KA
    KA
    0
    17 May 2012 16: 11
    Headline: "There hasn't been a revolution yet. Why the elites are not able to organize a way out of the crisis"
    Sounds like a call to revolution.
  13. 0
    17 May 2012 17: 44
    We’ll wait and see, but the stables need to be cleaned periodically, especially for us all differently for us .... Stalin. I hope that V.V.P. also.
  14. USNik
    0
    17 May 2012 18: 01
    A good article, there are a lot of such articles now, as well as the smart people who write them, Khazin, Dugin, Starikov, Kurgin ... Many patriotic programs, declarations, letters, appeals, projects, BUT, the Authority responds to all of the above with silence and hard-handed push anti-Russian projects, decrees, orders. Where are the Actions on articles strewed like shells from a six-barrel, before the elections, 1 and 2? Waiting and hoping ...
  15. +1
    17 May 2012 18: 53
    As history has shown, the first to sell their homeland are the boyars and merchants!
  16. 12Ural12
    0
    17 May 2012 23: 52
    Perform a full cleaning.
  17. +2
    18 May 2012 00: 09
    Aksakal!
    You wrote very well about bricks, convinces smile Only damn it, I'm tired of different philosophies. In memory of Gaidar, who had all the associations with the aircraft, which must first be sent in the peak, and then withdraw from the peak. He was thinking about Russia like that.
    I'm more interested in facts and figures. And the numbers are sad - the bureaucracy (the very bricks) has increased almost 3 times compared to the USSR. Yes, and hell would be with them, but every day they come up with the next dirty tricks, as if to make ordinary people stand in lines for a longer time, and run business around the cabinets. And for some reason, these inventions of them easily pass. Someone above always agrees with these bureaucrats that we, stupid cattle, need all their restrictions, pieces of paper, prohibitions, approvals, not everything and everything. Soon the epidemiological station will come to your home and fine for cockroaches wound up.
    For our part, we can only figure out how to resist from below. The state would like to advise the creation of state-owned companies, which will start to produce the product and employ at least half of our officials in these state-owned companies. Let them work for the good of the country, let them build, in the end. Just before that, hell away all restrictions, all pieces of paper, etc. with ordinary people. Let the government specialists be hired from Germany or the USA and stupidly learn from them what papers are needed, which ones can be dispensed with, and which are harmful
    1. 0
      18 May 2012 07: 51
      Quote: Magadan
      Soon the epidemiological station will come to your home and fine for cockroaches wound up.

      - these are international trends, we will not go anywhere laughing You know that in Australia this very sanitary epidemiological station (its counterpart in Australia) can break into your house due to the knock of a neighbor, that you sometimes exhibit food on the balcony. In this way, you help to breed flies. They are forbidden, food should only be in the kitchen and only in a covered form, not otherwise. When eating, close the kitchen - all windows and doors. A famous Russian (former) boxer complained. But there are no flies! laughing In general, in the West, bureaucracy is no less, if not more. It’s just that in the West they taught bureaucrats to work in such a way that they are as if imperceptibly. Where necessary, they apply information technologies, where necessary, they introduce only registration and notification measures instead of permissive ones, while this registration and notification procedure is as easy as possible, many can even be carried out on the Internet. smile In general, well done. We have something not glued. If the firemen are given the command not to spread rot on the entrepreneurs, "Lame Horse" will immediately appear. I agree that in this regard the West has a lot to learn.