New Mexican President: Increasing pensions 2 times. Note to the Government of the Russian Federation

Manuel Lopez Obrador, who won the presidential elections in Mexico, turned to the Mexican nation after the announcement of the preliminary election results. After counting over 94% of votes, Obrador enlisted the support of about 53,5% of voters who came to the polls. According to Obrador, in a country whose main income is oil and gas exports, by definition there can not be millions of poor people. The first decree, which will be signed by the new Mexican president after taking office, according to him, will be a decree on twice the increase in pensions in the country. And this without raising the bar of retirement age.

Manuel López Obrador notes that the funds for improving the well-being of the people of Mexico will be sought during the implementation of their program for a fair redistribution of income in the oil and gas sector. According to Obrador, for many years investments in this industry led to its growth, but the main “cream” was taken only by a limited number of people involved in the activities of foreign corporations as well.

Obrador:

We are not going to confiscate or other expropriation. We intend to act within the law. The first thing my team will do is analyze the previously concluded contracts in the energy sector. If violations are found that hit the interests of the Mexican people, we will go to Congress, to the courts and win.

According to the President-elect of Mexico, he will, after the inauguration, introduce cancellation for periodic spikes in gasoline prices.

Obrador:

We guarantee the freedom of entrepreneurship, but also have the right to ask from those who conduct their business not in the interests of the people. I believe that my main mission is the eradication of total corruption affecting the country.

Obrador 64 of the year. He graduated from the National University of Mexico with a degree in Political Science and Public Administration. Represents the coalition of the Labor Party, the National Revival Party, the Social Solidarity Party, etc. The Obrador has a substantial credit of trust from the people.

Obrador advocates the normalization of relations with the United States exclusively from the standpoint of an equal partnership and with criticism of the American trade dictatorship.

Mexico's economic indicators: unemployment - 3,2% (below the Russian level), inflation - 3% (close to the Russian indicator), average annual GDP growth over the past few years - 1,9%. The average salary is about 400 US dollars. Retirement age - 65 years for men and women. Average life expectancy 74,2 year (three years above the Russian).

Comments

[solzh]

on fair redistribution of income in the oil and gas sector.

We will not have this. Our oligarchy won’t do that ... Our oligarchs will stick to their “own” teeth until they beat their teeth.

[Reptiloid]

There used to be a slogan --- "catch up and surpass America." And now, what ---- "catch up and surpass Mexico" ???

[maxim947]

You can declare anything, the question is implementation. And how, without privatization and expropriation, you can find such an amount of funds that would allow you to double pensions, the oligarchs do not have that much))), it smacks of populism. But the statement is undeniably bold anyway, and we must set ourselves such tasks, it is curious what will come of it ....

[For example]

Quote: maxim947

smacks of populism.

Everything social smacks of populism. And I like that smell. Raising the standard of living of the population is outright populism.
I want to remind you that the WHOLE show business is built on populism. There are hundreds of billions of dollars.
So that populism is a highly profitable thing.

Socialism is a populism of pure water. It is the social policy of Germany that attracts millions of refugees.
Our government is obliged to conduct social policy.

So, I wish the Mexicans success in their endeavors.

[maxim947]

I want to remind you that the WHOLE show business is built on populism. There are hundreds of billions of dollars.

Not a very good comparison.

[For example]

Quote: maxim947

Not a very good comparison.

Justify ...
Pop music is popular music. The population pays for it. And the more money the population has, the more people spend money.
You just need to be able to manage these processes. Rather, direct these processes in the right direction.
At our place, Dimon directs processes towards Western services (buying bucks and bonds, buying foreign services and goods, well, etc.)
The population of Russia is a burden for our government. Therefore, the demon wants to reduce in any way the costs associated with this burden. Raising the retirement age, raising taxes, levying taxes for the very existence of a person (a tax on a house, a summer residence, an apartment, even a toilet in the country can be taxed - no hell) )


It's simple.

[maxim947]

I don’t even want to try. You have an extremely one-sided, aggressive perception of reality and I'm afraid I won’t be able to convince you of something, why should we waste time and nerves?))

[Vadim237]

Now everyone will increase their standard of living as best they can - the freebie is over.

[taiga2018]

Quote: maxim947

smacks of populism.

all the more so since they already have a retirement age of 65 years ... of course I wish him to implement all his plans, but I doubt it very much, so let's see in a year what he will sing ...

[MPN]

Elections, elections.
Candidates pi, pi, pi ...
We are not threatened, the elections were all taken up battle places, to combat the country's overpopulation ...

[Alex Justice]

Our news says it was the bloodiest election in Mexico. Crime was eager for power. 160 people were killed including a presidential candidate.

[akunin]

Quote: Reptiloid

There used to be a slogan --- "catch up and surpass America." And now, what ---- "catch up and surpass Mexico" ???

in 72, when you were traveling from Donetsk to Voroshilovgrad (Lugansk) on one section the highway was divided along the lawn, there was a full house on the lawn: “catch up with and overtake America to produce agricultural products per capita”, and when you go back (on another lane, through the lawn ) - "not sure - do not overtake." (This is not a bike).

[Was mammoth]

So Mexico, it is America. The slogan is correct.

[saigon]

Our oligarchs, for their hard-earned blood, not capable of hard labor, stolen something like clasped teeth and hands chopped off on a shirt.

[Muvka]

The average life expectancy is 74,2 years (three years higher than Russian).

Lies and manipulation.

[Starover_Z]

however, only a limited circle of people involved in activities including foreign corporations took off the main “cream”.

Manuel Lopez Obrador notes that funds to increase the welfare of the people of Mexico will be sought during the implementation of its program for the fair redistribution of income in the oil and gas sector

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez wanted to do this, but alas!
Corporate incomes are many times greater than the value of the most valuable human life ...

[Serge Gorely]

[/ Quote]
Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez wanted to do this, but alas!
Corporate incomes are many times higher than the cost of the most valuable human life ... [/ quote]
Right If it really starts to climb into the oil industry, then soon burrito or heart attack will choke ... It's a pity man.

[Arberes]

Quote: Serge Gorely

If it really starts to climb into the oil industry, then soon burrito or heart attack will choke ... It's a pity man.

Yes, here's another bother? They will be shot from three positions as John Fitzgerald, so that others would continue to be discouraged.

[Xander]

And what did Chavez want to do but alas? He squeezed out all the oil companies that own Venezuelan heavy oil production technologies, nationalization and the games of socialism, scared investors, froze future projects, reduced oil production by more than a quarter and sells it at a discount. The absurdity went so far as gas rich Venezuela bought it from Colombia.

And of course he’s done

[militia2]

I answer. Hugo did (or tried to do) what our ancestors did in the year 17. Good uncles from the White House did not forgive him for this. A familiar story passed.
Only now everything is tougher. He died. From cancer. Thyroid carcinoma was also found in Argentinean President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner, widow and successor of Nestor Kirchner. President Kirchner himself, a friend of Chavez, died a year earlier from bowel cancer. At 60! Another close friend and ally of Chavez, the 66-year-old president of Brazil, Lula da Silva, the doctors diagnosed with throat cancer. In 2011, Silva was replaced by Dilma Rousseff at the presidency. She was diagnosed with breast cancer. The 59-year-old president of Paraguay Fernando Lugo found lymphoma. Bolivian President Evo Morales, 54, has nose cancer, and Colombian President Juan Manuel Santos Calderon, 62, has prostate cancer.
True, Hugo managed to purchase long-range air defense S-300VM. But he wouldn’t have time, he would have shared the fate of Gadaffi (they killed, raped and put up a corpse in a freezer shop window).

[GibSoN]

We will not have this. Our oligarchy will not do that ...

There is one, very significant difference between the oil and gas lobby of the Russian Federation and any other oil and gas lobby of other countries! The interests of the oil and gas lobby of the Russian Federation are “protected” by at least one of the strongest armies on the planet! Including, with guaranteed means of nuclear weapons. Apparently, including on this, our oligarchy will not do this .. Yes, I think not only it will not do that .. In a nutshell, they have long since lost their fear.

[Fungus]

You must be made president. You're smart"

[Vadim237]

And where are the oligarchs - they have only one thing to do with pensions, paying taxes to the wiles.

[Old Horseradish]

Son, didn’t get tired of writing for the oligarchy? Do you think they will appreciate your efforts?
"paying taxes to the wiles."
That's how you write to the plot, so your oligarchs pay to the plot.

[Yuyuka]

Quote: Old Horseradish

Son, didn’t get tired of writing for the oligarchy? Do you think they will appreciate your efforts?
"paying taxes to the wiles."
That's how you write to the plot, so your oligarchs pay to the plot.

but how to write - Kazana, or what? from the word execution? punishment? it scares them ... let it be better to have a test word - goat

[Vadim237]

The oligarchs don’t influence your pension in any way and they don’t pay you - they pay it, from taxes of all citizens of Russia, but it will be so that not all citizens pay taxes honestly and every year there are more and more such citizens - why raise pensions, money by itself in the FIU will not be drawn.

[militia2]

You are mistaken, just the oligarchs have a very strong influence on pensions - they appropriate natural rents, thereby preventing these pensions from being raised.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Militia2

natural rent

Give a definition, please. Otherwise, it’s not entirely clear what exactly you are talking about.

[Vadim237]

I don’t understand at all - what are you talking about?

[cast iron]

It’s like I won’t go on a military review, this very “son” every time drowns for social Darwinism and wild capitalism. Sent Cossack.

[siberalt]

Already 60 cities in Russia organized meetings and protests against the bloodthirsty pension reform. And this is just the beginning. The people also have a limit of patience.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

We will not have this. Our oligarchy won’t do that ... Our oligarchs will stick to their “own” teeth until they beat their teeth.

Do you confirm your words with numbers? What kind of oligarchy are you talking about? Do you know the size of the budget in the Russian Federation? 16 trillion rubles !!! Almost half of this is taxes from the oil and gas sector !!! Pension Fund in Russia - 7,1 trillion. rubles, 42 million pensioners !!! To raise pensions by 2 times, one must either raise taxes on workers by 2 times, or another 7,1 trillion. to take from the budget and to give in retirement, that is, by half cutting the federal budget !!!

Even if you take every penny from all the oligarchs in Russia, then you don’t have enough for a year to pay a pension 2 times higher, because the oligarchs do not have bags of money, but shares in companies, and companies also have debts !!! For example, Mechel costs 60 billion rubles from Zyuzin there is a third, and he has more than 400 billion debts !!! Well, how do you want to take this enterprise for yourself ?!

[albert]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

Do you confirm your words with numbers? What kind of oligarchy are you talking about? Do you know the size of the budget in the Russian Federation? 16 trillion rubles !!! Almost half of this is taxes from the oil and gas sector !!! Pension Fund in Russia - 7,1 trillion. rubles, 42 million pensioners !!! To raise pensions by 2 times, one must either raise taxes on workers by 2 times, or another 7,1 trillion. to take from the budget and to give in retirement, that is, by half cutting the federal budget !!!

Ignorant comments. Budget and other things are paid at the expense of taxes and fees, and not at the expense of the oil and gas sector. Get to know the topic better before writing comments. Oil and gas revenues go to the oligarchs' capsules.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: albert

Ignorant comment.

Your? Of course.

Quote: albert

To state employees and others there is a payment due to taxes and fees

It is due to taxes from oil and gas (and they also pay taxes, you don’t know?) and a significant part of budget revenues is formed:

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

Almost half of this is taxes from the oil and gas sector

Quote: albert

Oil and gas revenues go to oligarch capsules

Is there anything to confirm? There is no faith here, you must be in the know

[Was mammoth]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Is there anything to confirm? There is no faith here, you must be aware of wink

At one time they played a video: “Gazprom is our national treasure!” Either the owners were outraged by such impudence, or there were a lot of jokes, but the video is no longer played.
Rosneft refuses to pay dividends to the budget at the rate set by the government - half of the net profit under the International Financial Reporting System. The argument is “we are not a state company”. That is, when it is necessary to get support from the budget and preferences, Rosneft is a state-owned company, and when to pay dividends it is no longer there.
For the last time in 2015, Rosneft paid dividends to its shareholders at the rate of approximately $ 1 per barrel of oil equivalent produced. ExxonMobil - $ 8 per barrel for 2015.
However, even the actually paid dividends are far from being fully paid into the budget. The aforementioned Rosneftegaz, which, in addition to the state-owned stake in Rosneft, also owns an 11% stake in Gazprom, transferred only 30 billion rubles in dividends to the budget last year. This intermediary accumulates the remaining income (600bn.) From the shares of state-owned companies for many years on its accounts, earning interest income from placing this money in banks. "
From there.
"... while today Rosneft and Gazprom's payments to this fund (PF) do not exceed 3% - the main burden on the maintenance of the pension system has been put on small and medium enterprises."
https://newsland.com/community/5325/content/chast
nye-lavochniki / 5789527

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: There was a mammoth

Rosneft refuses to pay dividends to the budget

You about taxes, you about dividends ...
Do you understand the difference, in general? Does Rosneft also refuse to pay taxes?
All of your "multicircles" are off topic, alas

Quote: There was a mammoth

meanwhile, today Rosneft and Gazprom payments to this fund (PF) do not exceed 3%

Payments in the PF are proportional to the total salary of employees in these structures. If you think a little bit, it turns out that 3% of the "total in the country" is a lot, oddly enough
And the percentage of contributions to the PF is the same - that for the "small", that for Gazprom ...

[Was mammoth]

Quote: Golovan Jack

You about taxes, you about dividends ...

Dividends from Gazprom, Rosneft and other state and half-companies go to the budget of Russia and this amount is slightly more than taxes.

Quote: Golovan Jack

Does Rosneft also refuse to pay taxes?

A lot of letters, you say? Here is more food for thought.
“During a major press conference, the Russian leader was asked that Gazprom and Rosneft do not send part of the money to the budget, but to Rosneftegaz, which transfers only part of the money, and leaves the rest on its accounts. it’s quite appropriate for the president to have funds that carry out the distribution function assigned to the budget, but instead of (!) the state budget. Putin assured that everything is in order. Well, yes, now we have such an order"
"Reporting on the company is very meager, and the government admitted that they did not have data on the exact amount of funds in the accounts of the company "
Oh how! This is about taxes.
http://putin24.info/rosneftegaz-ili-istoriya-priv
atizirovannogo-gosudarstva.html

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: There was a mammoth

Oh how! This is about taxes.

From the "Sulakshin Center"?
Thank you, have fun for the upcoming dream
Listen to Navalny, he’ll tell you taco-o-oo

[Was mammoth]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Thank you, have fun for a dream coming laughing

And you say that you know how to think! And you know how to compare the facts? Looks like no
You do not even mind that Exen Mobile has eight times more profit from a barrel of oil than Rosneft. Rosneft’s barrel is probably eight times smaller.
By the way, what’s Bulk?

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: There was a mammoth

Doesn't it bother you that Exen Mobile has eight times more profit from a barrel of oil than Rosneft

Source? If the same as you referenced above - in a hurry these, sorry for the expression, the data.
The guys work on the principle of "what I want, then I shout" and "the paper will endure everything."
Do you like to believe them - wallow, but why drag this garbage here? You know, she won’t ride, and yet, drag everything

[Was mammoth]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Source? If the same as you referenced above - in a hurry these, sorry for the expression, the data.

Weakly! Refute the "true" data. If not, "shake your tongue like a broomstick."

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: There was a mammoth

Refute the "true" data

Why am I going to waste time on yours, sorry?

Quote: There was a mammoth

thrill your tongue like a broomstick

Um ... you? Well, why so soon ... just do not own the information, and "feed" on what "lies closer."
Sulakshin Center, for example

[militia2]

If these are Zyuzin's debts, then let him understand them, as I understand my own. If I deal with Zyuzin’s valleys, then if this Zyuzin owes another oligarch, I will carry out mutual settlements between them, and I will return the people's good back.
But where did this Zyuzin, who is all in debt, take 60 billion rubles to buy this very Metel?

[cast iron]

That somehow you do not fit the numbers. According to your data, pensioners on average should receive about 14 rubles per month. In fact, almost all the mosses of pensioners they know are not more than 500 rubles. For most - approx. 11 000 rub.

[Sandor Clegane]

Quote: solzh

Our oligarchs will hold on to “their own”, they will keep their teeth until their teeth are beaten.

and who is this Ilyusha of Muromets? who can knock out their teeth? everything is quiet and calm, and you can’t get anyone out on the street

[USSR-1]

Quote: solzh

on fair redistribution of income in the oil and gas sector.

We will not have this. Our oligarchy won’t do that ... Our oligarchs will stick to their “own” teeth until they beat their teeth.

Do you know what year-end managers receive state-owned corporations? You can leave them their super-salaries with a calm soul. and use this money to increase pensions. It is possible to cut salaries for deputies of the same legislative cesspool of the State Duma, where "public servants" receive an average of 800 r / month for their presence. And now we laugh ... Will they themselves take away from themselves?

[militia2]

Something I'm not sure that I work ten times worse than these managers. Maybe they have so much responsibility for failing the assigned business? No. Examples? Well, at least TT. Mutko, Serdyukov.

[prapor55]

I propose my candidacy for the position of a doctor, in the garage there is an old drill and a bunch of blunt folded. Yesterday I watched football and at the sight of a dimon with a matrimonial inside something the same .......

[demo]

We will see. Will do - well done, man.
But I'm somewhat skeptical.
About how long he will be in good health to hold office.
When you look at the number of zeros in a figure that indicates what kind of income from the sale of oil and gas in the world, you understand what kind of people are behind these figures.

[Mar.Tirah]

They promise a lot of things in the elections and after the elections. Trump outdid everyone. But the main thing is to realize the promises. The beginnings of the President of Mexico are noble and can only be welcomed.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Mar. Tira

They promise a lot of things in the elections and after the elections. Trump outdid everyone. But the main thing is to realize the promises. The beginnings of the President of Mexico are noble and can only be welcomed.

Is this Mr. interesting just a populist or wants to make Mexico a second Venezuela?

[Loess]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

interesting this mr just populist

Rather, it’s a professor of boltology ... We’ll increase it right now, but we will find the money for increase later ...

[Nasrat]

One thing is striking - how many people in our country (judging by the comments) are ready to take the word “unknown” to an unknown person (or is he known to someone?), If only he promised paradise! I’m very surprised if this pepper fulfills its election promises! Pure populism. But the Mexicans believe ... they believe in manna from heaven ... and that would be tomorrow!

[Vadim237]

Such usually get into fraudulent networks.

[_Sergei_]

It is not strange Trump from the Mexicans is building a wall. Why are they fleeing from this paradise life?

[Misha Honest]

Quote: _Sergey_

Why are they fleeing from this paradise life?

For the same reasons that half of the citizens of Tajikistan and Uzbekistan in Russia ...

[militia2]

Why didn’t you be surprised at us after 91?

[Mar.Tirah]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Is this Mr. interesting just a populist or wants to make Mexico a second Venezuela?

Well, it’s not all the same for Americans to organize revolutions in Europe and the Middle East. It’s time for us to rage on the American continent!

[Alexander War]

Worked in a wooden mac - and drove off?

[militia2]

Do not envy! There were worse cases when the leader drove all the people for 40 years through the deserts around and near the oil fields and brought them to places where there was no such oil at all.

[AUL]

That's who we had to choose on March 18! It’s a pity he didn’t run for us!

[Muvka]

Have you even read the full article?

[Graz]

oil companies profit from the public domain,
and it should be limited to NO MORE THAN 15%, everything above should go to the budget

[Fungus]

Fly to mexico live

[AUL]

Fungus Vitek, where should I fly - I haven’t asked you for advice yet. And I won’t ask. And do not poke the elders!

[Azazelo]

I’ve only tried on a chair for a priest, I’ve already decided to teach ... I forgot who probably is in the north and has land borders with Mexico. Everything will be done at the direction of the white house will do, otherwise the fate of Gaddafia will loom in professional growth.

[Egorovich]

Obradorov would say yes to the Russian leadership in the ears !!!

[Xander]

Yeah, yeah, for people like you, money grows in the beds, planted-mowed-handed out to pensioners

[militia2]

Oh, sorry you were not present when Mr. Chubais offered to distribute to everyone on the Volga. There was a plowman on the field of miracles!
Well, Christ is merciful, but your God, where did he look?

[mitchhunter]

Well done! You can take an example from him!

[Muvka]

Yes. Urgently take an example. We increase our pension by 2 times and retirement by 65, as in Mexico right now!

[Loess]

Retirement Age - 65 years for men and women

Well, even with the harshest option, women plan to raise the retirement age only until the 63 years ... in 15 years. Yes, and the phrase that pensions in Mexico is ALREADY increasing, and funds for this will only be sought, sounds a little strange ...

[akunin]

the phrase of our politicians that in 2024 our life expectancy will be 80 years sounds more strange.

[conservative]

the phrase of our politicians that in 2024 our life expectancy will be 80 years sounds more strange.

if people drink less and smoke - and exercise more
it will not be the limit

funny stories about ecology amid the amount of alcohol consumed by people living in non-ecological areas and chewing non-organic food

[akunin]

if people drink less and smoke - and exercise more
it will not be the limit

direct life expectancy does not depend on the number of runs you have drunk or km (my neighbor ran a ski marathon two floors lower at 73 years old, died a month after the marathon. Americans are not the most athletic nation, and their life expectancy is higher (the main reason is the quality health care)
“A healthy person does not need sports, but a sick person is simply harmful”

[militia2]

Your grandfather is certainly well done, but the place is on this beach, where he hangs out, promoting a healthy lifestyle, I'm afraid there will not be enough for all senior citizens.

[MKPU-115]

In Russia, the future for most people (the crowds, as the mouthpiece of the Kiselyov government has said) is predetermined, there are only two options:
1. To die unemployed in poverty (medical care, medicine, illness, malnutrition, etc.)
2. To die at work.
Are there any other options?

[akunin]

3 (best). Survive at work until 65 years old and die on the first day of retirement.

[solzh]

To die in an accident

[akunin]

Quote: solzh

To die in an accident

I don’t have a good night, in a dream, to receive only the burial money from the pension fund (I recently received, already 6.5 thousand rubles, probably on a cardboard coffin or newspapers to wrap the corpse, because the digging of the grave cost 11 thousand)

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: MKPU-115

In Russia, the future for most people (the crowds, as the mouthpiece of the Kiselev government has said) is predetermined, there are only two options: 1. To die unemployed in poverty (medical care, medicine, illness, malnutrition, etc.) 2. To die at work.
Are there any other options?

Yes - Do not be born.
This pension reform will primarily hit the institution of the family, when the grandparents who look after their grandchildren today while young people are working will be forced to work until they are 60/65 years old. Aunts simply will not give birth to children due to the fact that they will not be left with anyone to take the same sick leave to care for the child, as this is not welcomed by the employer, and hiring a nanny is not affordable. Looking forward to another fertility failure from a few generation of the 90s? This can be regarded as a government program for the systematic destruction of the people.

[akunin]

Quote: Nyrobsky

Yes - Do not be born.

you’re a cruel selfish person, and who will create surplus value for Sechin, Rogozin, etc.? who will vote for Putin 25 times, giving the election legitimacy?

Do not ask God for an easy life, ask Him to make you stronger.
Do not ask what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.

JJ Kennedy

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: akunin

Do not ask God for an easy life, ask Him to make you stronger.
Do not ask what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.
JJ Kennedy

The main thing is that the country does not interfere with the citizen's self-realization. In Russia, the reverse process is still being observed. The government does not seek to tax the potential weaver, but not even the fabric he has woven, before buying the loom.

[akunin]

According to Obrador, in a country whose main part of its income is oil and gas exports, by definition there can be millions of poor.

naive go to Russia and find out how it happens.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: akunin

According to Obrador, in a country whose main part of its income is oil and gas exports, by definition there can be millions of poor.

naive go to Russia and find out how it happens.

Rather, a romantic. Although the essence of what was said and the program he proposed was absolutely correct and economically justified. We, too, cannot feed the elderly, not because there are not enough resources and money, but because a certain group of people cannot get drunk on this money.

[akunin]

Quote: Nyrobsky

that a certain group of people cannot get drunk with this money

+ this group is constantly multiplying and grows with hungry mouths: wives, husbands, children, lovers, etc.

[shubin]

Definitely not a tenant.

[Yrec]

It smacks of populism. We will see how he will increase his pension 2 times. Probably half of retirees to the States deported.

[Kondratko]

Quote: Yrec

It smacks of populism.

So after all:

Obrador is 64 years old. He graduated from the National University of Mexico with a degree in "Political Science and public administration. ”

- political officer (in our opinion). We remember being able to speak so beautifully - you will hear ...)))

[militia2]

Well, the political officer, so what? Stalin went to seminary. It is not important.

[Million]

In response, the Russian government will offer to increase the retirement age by 2 times!

[Nyrobsky]

The reincarnation of Hugo Chavez in the person of Obrador? Only now they will not let him do his plan and after this statement it is already possible to begin the countdown to the "Mexican spring".

[bouncyhunter]

Dima It is just right to remember where good intentions lead.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Dima It is just right to remember where good intentions lead.

Indeed! Greetings Paul

[Old Horseradish]

The rating of United Russia drops sharply. In the next election, I personally will go to vote for the Communists. This seems to be the only force that can stop retirement genocide. (and not only pension)
"United Russia" rating collapsed by 21%
Ivanovo MPs may evade "approval" of pension reform

United Russia discussed pension reform in a closed expanded meeting with the leaders of party factions in regional and municipal parliaments with the participation of State Duma deputies, members of the Federation Council and the government.
The essence of the meeting is that pension reform will have to be adopted.
According to Vedomosti, "... at the meeting, all regions expressed their dissatisfaction, but primarily those where elections are coming soon"
According to Kommersant, the executive committee of United Russia sent a technical task to the regions in which it recommended "avoiding the theses on support or approval by the party of pension reform in any formulations." Legislative assemblies have already begun to prepare positive feedback on the draft law, although subjects who are scheduled for elections in September may evade this.

After the announcement of an increase in retirement age, the party's rating falls throughout the country. The general attitude of the United Russia asset was pessimistic - the regions do not understand how to explain the reform.

According to the results of the VTsIOM poll on June 18-24, in Russia, the electoral rating of the United Russia party was 38,7% (at the end of May it was 49,3%). The Communist Party increased its rating from 10,2 to 14,5%, the Liberal Democratic Party - from 8,6% to 10,3%, "Fair Russia" - from 4,7 to 5,7%. "

[Alexander War]

Everything is secret, closed, behind the scenes Fu *****

[Vard]

Three years more than Russian ... No wonder ... We drink vodka ... they are tequila ...

[Old military officer]

However, they will knock him down or break him somehow. An attempt on the income of those "who also cry" is never forgiven to anyone.

[gramatey]

Comrades gentlemen! Stop paying attention to average life expectancy - this indicator is too generalized to be used for practical purposes. I remind you - for its calculation, data on born people are used - i.e. from the age of 0. At the same time, there is infant mortality - all who die before one year of age. Now the numbers are: in the USSR infant mortality in the 1950s = 88,0 cases per thousand. In 2014 = 7,8 cases. The question is how has life expectancy changed? Now, as before, a person who has reached the age of 21 has a chance to live about 45 years. Those. actually, adults did not live longer.
This argument should be justified in raising the retirement age - knowingly deceiving people.

[Old Horseradish]

Dozens of Russian cities hold rallies against raising the retirement age
On July 1, several dozen cities in Russia held rallies against raising the retirement age. Most of them have been agreed.
One of the most popular rallies was held in Omsk, where, according to Omsk-Inform, five thousand people gathered. The rally organizers announced two thousand participants. The rally was agreed by representatives of the Yabloko and Parnassus parties.
About two thousand people came to the rally in Chelyabinsk, and about one and a half thousand in Komsomolsk-on-Amur. Also, the shares were held in Khabarovsk, Novosibirsk, Irkutsk, Tomsk, Murmansk, Krasnodar, Saratov, Perm and other cities.
In Orenburg, the mayor's office initially refused to coordinate the event, but the court found the refusal illegal. As a result, two events took place in the city: a march organized by supporters of Navalny, and a rally by the Communist Party, the Liberal Democratic Party and the Parent Council of Orenburg. According to estimates of Echo of Moscow in Orenburg, several hundred people came to the first rally.
An uncoordinated procession took place in Vladivostok, during which participants passed from the city station to the Pension Fund building with the slogan "No to raising the retirement age."
No arrests were reported during the rally. In Penza, the activist of the “Generation of a New Time” movement participating in the rally was detained at the end of the rally. According to an eyewitness, the reason was called the disobedience of the police activist (article 19.3 of the Code of Administrative Offenses) on the action "He is not our king" on May 5.
Added. Later, Svobodnye Novosti reported the detention of a demonstrator in Saratov who called for the chant “Putin is a thief” from the scene.
The actions were organized by the regional headquarters of supporters of Alexei Navalny, as well as trade unions, parties of the Liberal Democratic Party, the Communist Party, Yabloko and PARNAS. Supporters of Navalny staged shares in 39 cities.
The government introduced to the State Duma a bill to raise the retirement age on June 16. By 2028, the retirement period for women will increase from 55 to 63 years, for men - from 60 to 65 years by 2034.
Kommersant and Vedomosti wrote that the Kremlin is working on ways to mitigate reform in the event of protests.

[Loess]

Quote: Old Fuck

By 2028, the retirement period for women will increase from 55 to 63 years, for men - from 60 to 65 years by 2034 year.

Here you are a little confused ...

[Vadim237]

Given how many people there gathered at these rallies, 99% of the population simply do not care about the increase.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

But at least one of those politicians or public figures who rallied suggested some kind of solution to the problem ?!

There is nothing but silly promises and slogans ...

Even now, 42 trillion is spent on this penny pension of 7.1 million pensioners. rubles per year, in order to increase it by 2 times, it is necessary to increase the deductions from employees by 2 times or by tranches from the federal budget to increase the PF budget by 2 times, i.e. by 7,1 trillion rubles, reducing the federal budget by 2 times ...

Then you have to forget in general about the army and especially about the fleet, reduce all spending of the federal budget by 2 times !!!

Or raise the retirement age so that those who are older pay more, and those who are still able to continue to work ... There is no other way ...

[MKPU-115]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

But at least one of those politicians or public figures who rallied suggested some kind of solution to the problem ?!

There is nothing but silly promises and slogans ...

Even now, 42 trillion is spent on this penny pension of 7.1 million pensioners. rubles per year, in order to increase it by 2 times, it is necessary to increase the deductions from employees by 2 times or by tranches from the federal budget to increase the PF budget by 2 times, i.e. by 7,1 trillion rubles, reducing the federal budget by 2 times ...

Then you have to forget in general about the army and especially about the fleet, reduce all spending of the federal budget by 2 times !!!

Or raise the retirement age so that those who are older pay more, and those who are still able to continue to work ... There is no other way ...

Why reduce spending on the army and navy? Here is another way:
1. Prohibit offshore and pay taxes on them. Now it is withdrawn from Russia (stealing and hiding from taxes) a year according to the most conservative estimates of about 2.5 trillion rubles;
2. Introduce a progressive tax;
3. Raise the minimum wage (contributions to the same PF will increase).
But here the kings are stepping on the same rake that Nicholas II, that the current ones, decided not to touch their own, but to starve the already impoverished population with hunger.

[militia2]

I recall the Primakov-Maslyukov government, this is after Kiriyenko defaulted. Where did they find the money? Or here V.V. Putin once said on television something like: "I asked my friends, they gave it." But what did they not give here? Maybe it’s also worth asking here?
If we count in billions, then, for example, the drain of money abroad is $ 15 billion. per year (1 trillion rubles), and in general on the accounts there, according to Alfa Bank, $ 100-200 billion. lies with good people (this is honestly earned about 10 trillion rubles). Do you have enough?
This I have just begun, so that you, "There is no other way," will be a bit holodil. But you can continue to count. Then you will not have time to figure out where to put this money!

[Altona]

Quote: solzh

Our oligarchy will not do that ...

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Our oligarchy must be driven by a filthy broom. Enough of the people to tear already. First, public property, then salary and jobs, then education and medicine, then pensions and benefits. Correctly asked questions to Putin "when are you pumping?"

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Our oligarchy must be driven by a filthy broom. Enough of the people to tear already. First, public property, then salary and jobs, then education and medicine, then pensions and benefits. Correctly asked questions to Putin "when are you pumping?"

That's right ... To do everything as it was in the USSR, neither oligarchs nor products in stores, not a damn thing ...

So you want it again?

[MKPU-115]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

Our oligarchy must be driven by a filthy broom. Enough of the people to tear already. First, public property, then salary and jobs, then education and medicine, then pensions and benefits. Correctly asked questions to Putin "when are you pumping?"

That's right ... To do everything as it was in the USSR, neither oligarchs nor products in stores, not a damn thing ...

So you want it again?

And why are the products in the store, if there is nothing to buy them for? Or does someone expect to find work in 50-65 years if he loses it? We have 20-35 year old "zamkadysh" nowhere to work, not like the elderly.

[militia2]

To answer if I personally want this, please tell me - where are you then?

[Altona]

Quote: Old Fuck

Kommersant and Vedomosti wrote that the Kremlin is working on ways to mitigate reform in the event of protests.

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Not mitigation, but cancellation. And you need to ask a lot of questions to the Kremlin, including the progressive scale of taxation on the super-rich. If they cannot collect taxes from them, then why are we feeding the army of security forces?

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

And you need to ask a lot of questions to the Kremlin, including the progressive scale of taxation on the super-rich.

These questions have already been asked dozens of times and you have already been answered as many:

- the progressive tax scale was in the 90s, its cancellation increased tax collection by 7 times immediately in the first year after its cancellation !!!;

- the tax on the super rich is already there, because they seem to pay the same 13% of personal income tax, but from their income, on expensive cars, yachts and houses - taxes are also much higher, and in return from the state they get everything the same as any another citizen - the same roads, the same hospitals, the same law enforcement agencies, only unlike the majority of Russian citizens - rich people also create enterprises in Russia, and this also includes taxes on business and taxes on the jobs that they created! !!;

A market economy enriches the country, as it was even during the Soviet era under the NEP, but do you want to collectivize again, introduce an administrative economy and dispossession ?! Do you want to arrange a population migration from Russia and another civil war again, and as a result, empty store shelves and the collapse of the country ?!

[militia2]

Well, the first one. If tax revenues really increased by seven times, then there was no need to stop there, but again to introduce a progressive tax. You have to be more flexible, more flexible!
Second, And here is a lie. Because, in fact, the super-rich do not pay the robbed people the natural rents appropriated by them. Because they receive not the same hospitals and not the same law enforcement protection. Because they do not create enterprises, not for their money, but for the money illegally appropriated by them. They do not pay taxes “from jobs”, but make deductions from salaries earned by people.
Third, a market economy does not enrich a country. It enriches the oligarchs. But a civil war can be arranged by do-gooders running from the side and wanting to profit. It was passed.
If this degradation cannot be stopped when the super-rich are devouring everything before vomiting, they don’t know where to put the money for themselves, then really Russian civilization could end.
Only this will not happen!

[MKPU-115]

Quote: Altona

Quote: Old Fuck

Kommersant and Vedomosti wrote that the Kremlin is working on ways to mitigate reform in the event of protests.

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Not mitigation, but cancellation. And you need to ask a lot of questions to the Kremlin, including the progressive scale of taxation on the super-rich. If they cannot collect taxes from them, then why are we feeding the army of security forces?

The army of security forces is needed for the internal security of the country, or rather, not of the country, but of the authorities and their environment.

[Altona]

Quote: gramatey

Comrades gentlemen! Stop paying attention to average life expectancy - this indicator is too generalized to be used for practical purposes.

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And the number of employees per pensioner is also about nothing. Productivity has since grown significantly. It is necessary to create jobs.

[Evil 55]

Let’s see how many these populist slogans are enough .. The state feeder spoiled a considerable number of decent people ..

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Judging by what this elected leader of Mexico says, he does not even know what pensions are in the country, how they are paid and why ...

In Mexico, only the funded pension system, how much you transferred to the PF with a white salary, you will receive so much later ... To raise pensions in Mexico 2 times, you need to increase contributions to the PF 2 times ...

This is called - after us, even a flood ...

[militia2]

And even more people simply disappeared when this very one, created by them and their ancestors, was plundered.

[solovald]

Quote: maxim947

400

I remember that here, in Russia, someone once set the task of raising GDP to 10% and overtaking Portugal ... But, as Grandfather Krylov said, “But things are still there”

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

I remember that here, in Russia, someone once set the task of raising GDP to 10% and overtaking Portugal ... But, as Grandfather Krylov said, “But things are still there”

If only the language blurt out something))) Yes?
In terms of nominal GDP, Russia ranks 11th in the world !!! Portugal at 47th place in the world !!!

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Список_стран_по_ВВП
_ (face value)

And GDP at PPP (for the calculation of goods that are purchased in the country for a year) Russia is in 6th place in the world !!! Portugal at 55th place !!!

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Список_стран_по_ВВП
_ (PPP)

[MKPU-115]

Quote: solovald

Quote: maxim947

400

I remember that here, in Russia, someone once set the task of raising GDP to 10% and overtaking Portugal ... But, as Grandfather Krylov said, “But things are still there”

In 2007, V.V. Putin promised that he would lead Russia to 20107th place in the economy by 5.

[_Sergei_]

By 20107 it will lead to the first place in the world.

[Gnefredov]

Interesting math.
And let's calculate "on the knee" what the state will cost, well, to raise a pension by one thousand rubles. In the year of 12 months, it means that 12 thousand rubles a year for one pensioner need to find funds. Imagine that retirees 40 (forty) million. 40 000 000 * 12 000 rub. = 480 rubles. This is 000 billion rubles (about half a trillion wooden).
Now, we will translate “wooden” to “green”, 480 / 000
= 7 741 935 483,87 and this, seven billion seven hundred forty-one million dollars. Ok! From the lord's shoulder, we round up to 8 billion dollars. Good?
And now we go to the search engine and ask, for example, like this: “how much does Abramovich’s yacht” and get a figure of just over 300 million dollars for one ship. This means that ten yachts, this is 3 billion dollars, and twenty yachts, this is six billion dollars. And thirty yachts will more than provide forty million pensioners with twelve thousand rubles a year.
And do not increase the retirement age. And do not scoff at people who have honestly served theirs for the benefit of their homeland, which, as you know, is not chosen.

So the Mexican has quite reasonable and more than adequate plans.

[Vadim237]

Here the figure will be different, if you increase pensions to 24 thousand rubles, then annually for these 40 million pensioners you need 11.5 trillion rubles, and this is 185 billion dollars every year, why and who to take such a huge amount every year - money will not appear from nowhere .

[Gnefredov]

So in the picture below, 2.8 trillion dollars (not rubles), income. We can not support 40 million pensioners but 400 million. We generally can not work, three hundred years, and the whole country.

UPD. The coolest territory, endless reserves of anything, from fresh water to oil. Yes, what kind of oil is there, the entire periodic table in our pocket. So rich, but we live somehow weird, not according to real incomes. And that bothers me.
I want to go home to the USSR.

[Vadim237]

This only happens in a fairy tale, it’s all that is needed in the picture below: to grow, produce, transport, process and most importantly sell, and from this only 30% will go to the budget, the rest will be for service staff: fuel, materials, workers and so on. Profit will be received only by those who are engaged in it - all outsiders by, freebies are no more. You may not work at all, only forget about retirement and a decent life.

[Gnefredov]

No no and one more time no :)
Either you were misled or you want to introduce me into it. I’ll make a reservation right away, the second option will not work with me ;-)
We have a fantastic country. The richest on this planet :)
For us to obtain citizenship, queues, in tens of thousands of kilometers, must stand.
Unconquered people, heir to the Byzantine civilization ...
And we can’t organize our own life. Well, how not ashamed? )))

[Vadim237]

Yes - and yes again - there will be no freebies.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

And thirty yachts will more than provide forty million pensioners with twelve thousand rubles a year in increase.

And who else in Russia still has a yacht like that of Abramovich? Or do you think there are yacht deposits in Russia ?!

What are you going to select property on the basis of? Just your desire and all? Can you imagine what will happen later, and then it will be the same as in Venezuela, the business will simply leave the country and there will be only administrators who will share the remnants of past victories ...

When it comes to you that the pension is not paid from taxes of oil companies, these are all the revenues of the federal budget, and pensions are paid from the salaries of working citizens - 22% !!! And in order to raise a pension it is necessary that the salary grows, not due to a simple pouring of money, but due to the fact that people create more goods and services, otherwise inflation will just gobble up, as the number of goods will not grow !!!

An example is the growth in the cost of housing in 2006, the mortgage has become more accessible - housing has grown by 3 or more times !!! It is necessary to develop industry and only this will bring salaries and pensions ...

But in Russia the situation is getting worse, as the number of retirees is growing already 42 million (and not 40), and the number of employees is becoming less !!!

30 yachts - 8 billion))), what do you think b \ y sell a yacht at a new price ?! To whom?

And the Mexicans generally do not have a guaranteed pension, there is only a funded pension - how much you transferred to the pension fund (if you did, of course) transferred proportionally, and you yourself will receive from 65 years old both from men and women ...

Passed already in 1917, select and share !!! Well, how could it really not have happened that you don’t need to do this !!!

[MKPU-115]

[quote = Ratmir_Ryazan] [quote]
But in Russia the situation is getting worse, as the number of retirees is growing already 42 million (and not 40), and the number of employees is becoming less !!!

Passed already in 1917, select and share !!! Well, how could it really not have happened that you don’t need to do this !!! [/ quote]
"and the number of employees is becoming less !!!" - because there is no work as such in the regions from the word at all. Every year there are reductions, which the capitalists have replaced with new terms: production optimization and outsourcing. And if there is, then on a bowl of soup, that would not stretch your legs.
Therefore, gentlemen, the capitalists are again begging from the people, and then they will scream from abroad, and for what we ...

[Gnefredov]

Well actually yes. You may have explained the situation too emotionally to Mr. Above, but I subscribe to your every word.
All correctly stated.

[militia2]

In the year 17, it was not selected and divided. And it was - to return the loot.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Militia2

In the year 17, it was not selected and divided. And it was - to return the loot.

And how did it happen?

[militia2]

All is correct. Only this yacht is not Obramovich, but a national one, built with national money.
Another time will come, children of orphanages will ride on it or labor veterans on health cruises to send ..

[vladimych]

Want to not mean able

[Rostislav]

Cool started. Running into oil tycoons is fraught with, many rulers in the world at different times felt this. Good luck on this very thorny path of "fair redistribution of income." There will be dissent. They are few, but they are well organized and rich.

[Altona]

Quote: Rostislav

Running into oil tycoons is fraught with, many rulers in the world at different times felt this.

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Hugo Chavez is probably the most obvious example from the recent past.

[militia2]

Hugo managed to buy good air defense from us, so he did not share the fate of Gaddafi, and Venezuela - the fate of Libya. Then he was poisoned by “democracy fighters”. Yes, I didn’t manage much, but the story of poisoning cannot be stopped.

[Old Horseradish]

Omsk deputies demanded the resignation of not only the government, but also the president
In Omsk, more than four thousand people gathered for a rally against raising the retirement age. So far, this is the most massive protest action today.

[Gnefredov]

Oh, you stick-trees, I’m not the only one who likes to count


PS By the way, somewhere it already slipped that Bulk to this meeting was smeared (like, he organized this meeting). Poor Lech will end, oh bad, ..

[Vadim237]

This and other rallies successfully promoted.

[Gnefredov]

In terms of will advance? How?

[Vadim237]

They will not notice - the next day will come and everything will be forgotten.

[Dimy4]

... funds to increase the welfare of the people of Mexico will be sought during the implementation of its program for the fair redistribution of income in the oil and gas sector.

We are not in danger of such a terrible and unfair outcome towards the oil magnates.

[faiver]

say this one thing and do a completely different thing ....

[ZVS]

This is the position of a person who thinks about the people, and not about the oligarchy of the country, like our president.

[Old Horseradish]

Here is the real picture.

[_Sergei_]

In Germany, 67 retire.

[MKPU-115]

Quote: _Sergey_

In Germany, 67 retire.

If you translate into hours worked, then in Germany they leave earlier than in Russia.

[Vadim237]

67 years old - and nevermind how many hours you have worked in these 67 years.

[Chicha squad]

To spend something, you need to pick it up from somewhere.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

These stupid snot about pensions are already enraging ...

Mexico?! And what about Mexico? Well, what about Mexico ?!

There when the retirement age was made at 65, what was the life expectancy?

Do you want to live in Mexico yourself? I doubt it very much ...

The salary is $ 400, but why didn’t they write about the pension? And the pension there is cumulative !!! How much you paid to the pension fund - you’ll get so much !!! And I strongly doubt that in Mexico everyone works in white and pay in the PF of their country as expected ...

In Russia, the retirement age has been raised, because life expectancy is growing and if 5 years ago it was 65 years old, today it is 71,5 years old !!! Already today in Russia there are 42 million pensioners for 71 million workers and 7,1 trillion rubles from the PF are paid annually on pension where the money goes from deductions from the salaries of workers !!! Do you at the editorial office of the Moscow Region recognize this at all ?! If you do not raise the age and do not raise taxes on workers 2 times, and raise the pension 2 times in Russia at the expense of the budget, then you need another 7,1 trillion rubles today, and in a couple of years when there will be even more 10 trillion pensioners. rubles !!! For comparison, the entire federal budget of Russia is 16 trillion. rubles per year !!!

What will remain there? Yes, nothing will remain !!! We’ll have to completely forget about the army and especially about the fleet, with ships that only consume fuel unnecessarily ...

In total, in order to double the pension in Russia now, it is necessary to pay pensioners not 7,1 trillion. rubles per year, and 14,2 tl - the federal budget will have to be cut in 2 times !!! This is real?! NO!!! And you don’t have to behave like children - screaming so your parents buy a toy, your parents don’t have money for this, they need to pay for housing and food ...

You would still promises Maidan politicians would also be promoted, as an example of what the Russian government is striving for ...

[Old Horseradish]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

What will remain there? Yes, nothing will remain !!!

It’s hard to disagree with you here. Now from this wealth we now really have nothing left!

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Quote: Old Horseradish

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

What will remain there? Yes, nothing will remain !!!

It’s hard to disagree with you here. Now from this wealth we now really have nothing left!

Well, why are you shy - go to the farmer or the chairman of the collective farm and demand from him bread, milk, meat for them ... They grow it all on Russian soil, and it belongs to you, as it were ... Yes, I heard it on agricultural producers in general, it seems like the tax was canceled ... Look at your land, they make money and do not pay taxes ...

Go ask? Why not? And because you know that from the farmer’s head you’ll get a shovel of which he recently cleaned manure ...

Oil and gas companies in Russia pay taxes on almost half of the federal budget, and in addition, a lot goes to local ones - this is 13% NLFL, property tax in the regions, excise taxes !!! Few?

And how much did oil and gas companies pay in the USSR ?! A lot of? But did a lot of people get it? There were no oligarchs or products in stores and gold reserves of 2600 tons of gold only (they were formed under Stalin) were canceled ... What are you doing ?! So also debts gained 145% of GDP !!! Now in the world only Japan has more ...

Not only did the USSR sell oil and gas, but everyone with a bare ass remained, hungry and the country fell apart ...

But Putin had to decide how to repay the debts, if it weren’t for the government now, but the IMF would determine for the United States what pensions would be in Russia and what gas prices (like in a neighboring country) ...

Want again too? I think not ... Well, do not grind nonsense !!!

[Old Horseradish]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

The IMF also determined the USA what pensions will be in Russia

I absolutely agree with you! Everything is being done at the direction of the IMF.

IMF recommended increasing retirement age in Russia
The Russian authorities should increase the retirement age, according to the International Monetary Fund (IMF).

This is stated in the final IMF statement at the end of the traditional visit of employees to the Russian Federation, RIA Novosti reports.
http://www.ntv.ru/novosti/1808680/

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

Ratmir_Ryazan

[Old Horseradish]

Oops, what happened to you? Yesterday you were like "Marshal". Where did you get the rating?

[prapor55]

In the regiment of adherents Dimon replenished.

[Andrey Panov]

Here everyone shouts, life expectancy has risen to 73 years, but I remember, was 63, and I can’t understand, due to WHAT rose? Life expectancy has risen, but the population is declining ?!
Something is amiss in our kingdom-state. Or maybe they think somehow wrong? And there are fewer hospitals. Do we have statistics on pensioners in Russia, how much, and at what age?

[Vadim237]

No, the population of Russia is just growing.

[militia2]

Strange comment, for the third time I read the same thing. As if a person cannot read the answers to his previous heartbreaking maxims.

[tasha]

Who knows, and what is the average pension in Mexico now? And what proportion of the pension goes to utilities?

[Gnefredov]

About two hundred bucks (and very dependent on the state). An old school friend there works as an English-Spanish translator (he just clarified with him).

UPD. And as I understand it, the coolest of them are those pensioners who lease land (such as in our Ukraine or Russia something like a share). And they redeem the land throughout their lives, well, and feel very good for old age because there is some kind of government program for the redemption of land in force (I did not dig deep into the topic and I do not want to dissemble, who cares, take an interest in it yourself).
And I’ll add, Mexico is not the worst country. Yes, your mentality, your own identity, latinos and others like them, but with regard to public administration, they are not so well organized. Quite the contrary, quite a dynamic state system.

[Gnefredov]

Quote: Chicha Squad

To spend something, you need to pick it up from somewhere.

Or do not let pick up the loot.

[Gnefredov]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

And who else in Russia still has a yacht like that of Abramovich? Or do you think there are yacht deposits in Russia ?!

ABOUT! Well, you yourself answered your own question. I will only help you a little. And I will make it so that you feel comfortable.
Please take a seat, you have been allocated a seat in the back seat of the Mersedes-W140-V8 car (sorry, I don’t have 12 Gorshkovs, but I assure you that you will also like the eight). And I will work as your driver. Well, how are you? Conde, Mouzon, are you happy with everything? Then we drove north, from the golden-headed, towards the city of Dubna, created by the brilliant manager of the Soviet Union, Lavrenty Pavlovich Beria. But don’t be afraid, we won’t get to Dubna, we’ll just drive across the bridge over the Moscow Ring Road and not even reaching Khlebnikov or Lobny, look to the right, from the stunning bridge built during the USSR years, at the Admiral club. And let us look around the river water area ...
Are you not bored yet?

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

bite ... Or do you think the Russian yacht deposits ?!

Yeah Exactly
Do not believe? Take a ride yourself.

[Gnefredov]

We are oligarchs, our name is Legion!


I staggered your tent :)

Retirees to be silent! Suffering silently :) After entering the air tax, you began to breathe less! It's outrageous!

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

And what about all yachts like Abramovich’s? 13 tons of displacement? 000 meters in length?

Even 2 is not in Russia, Usmanov is even less suitable, but also less ...

But 30 pieces, and even each year where do you get it and based on what? On the basis of a new revolution in the country, as in Ukraine ?! Select and share ... But you yourself do not think it will affect?

First, they will consider those who have a yacht as bourgeois, and then those who have a foreign car even if they’re used ...

Pension provision is a serious issue, and the government, when resolving it, cannot be guided by the nonsense that you proposed here ...

[Gnefredov]

And what do you only measure with yachts obtained by honest labor and exorbitant forces? There are also fleets, helicopters and even airplanes :) And even (in a whisper) submarines in private use, and entire islands. And many, many hectares of luxury real estate.
So yachts, this is so, for one year to provide retirees. In general, as I wrote above, we are years three hundred the whole country can do nothing and feel great.

I know what I'm talking about

[Alex66]

He will not live long - he encroached on the holy.

[Gnefredov]

Quote: Alex66

Manuel

Figs knows him ... I read a little about him here, but the guy is cool. Not only that, but also stubborn in his head (in the good sense of the word), he had been running for President for sixteen years, and it seems he was able this time to gather under his banners both the military and the mafia. It costs a lot, right. I'll watch him the Mexican mentality is akin to our southern temperament.

[naidas]

Russia will respond by raising the income of officials and their relatives:
The country's budget allocates 41 million rubles a day (15 billion rubles a year) on the president’s content daily, the RBC publication reports (6.01.2017), citing official studies of the budget of the Russian Federation.

[16112014nk]

New President of Mexico: I increase pensions by 2 times.
D. A. Medvedev: "No! I can’t understand this! I need to consult with my boss!" ©
And the boss is not involved in this business?

[Gnefredov]

Subtly spotted
Very, subtle.

[bardadym]

It was a good country - Mexico ...
Greetings from Argentina and Venezuela, however.

[16112014nk]

The FIU complains about a lack of money.
It is worth looking at the PFR buildings in Russian cities. All money is in the public eye!
For example, in Kazan:

[Gnefredov]

Nikolay, hello!
Do not believe me, the same questions haunt me)))

PS Where is the money? Zin?) (C) Vladimir Semenovich in all his splendor

[16112014nk]

Quote: Gnefredov

in all its splendor

Gregory, welcome!
And in all this magnificence, a bunch of loafers with good salaries. And to ordinary pensioners: "There is no money, but you hold on!"

[militia2]

Tree sticks! I have no words!

[Gnefredov]

Quote: Vadim237

Only those who do it will profit

This is a key phrase. Substitute into it country. And the phrase will sound differently:
Profits will be received by the country and its inhabitants.

Did you catch the difference?

UPD. Not the oligarchs, not the capitalists, but the country. Country, with a capital letter.
UPD2. There are no pockets at the coffin, and we are leaving for another world the same as we came here. Probably, if we manage to change something for the better in this world during that brief moment of our human life, then this life will not be lived in vain. Try to draw all the gold of the world into the next world; But changing the world for the better, you can leave a good memory of yourself. For edification, future generations.

[Vadim237]

We are not leaving the same way - someone is stupid, someone is smart.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Vadim237

We are not leaving the same way - someone is stupid, someone is smart.

Clever can be a creature in life, and a stupid good-natured simpleton.

[Vadim237]

And with the same thing - far from the same as they were born.

[Vadim237]

The country receives everything in the form of taxes and jobs.

[NF68]

Will the Mexican president take the necessary money from local drug lords?

[Gnefredov]

Shiyo is unknown. Anyway, I hold my fists for him. Something impresses me, this President.

[NF68]

Quote: Gnefredov

Shiyo is unknown. Anyway, I hold my fists for him. Something impresses me, this President.

Where did he get so much money at once? For starters, he would try to reassure his drug lords. They’ve been frolicing for 10 for years and they are putting people in packs.

[Gnefredov]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

These stupid snot about pensions are already enraging ...

How old are you if this topic does not interest you

[Old Horseradish]

Better than a test pilot, the hero of Russia Alexander Garnayev and you can’t say:
"Alexander Garnaev @A_Garnaev
MORE THAN IN 1/3 (THIRD) of Subjects R.F. = 36 out of 85 with the proposed pension reform - pensioners WILL NOT BE AT ALL! ... Glory to the State of finally defeating fascism, “voluntarily” choosing the National Idea - genocide of its own People !!! "

[Gnefredov]

Quote: Vadim237

We are not leaving the same way - someone is stupid, someone is smart.

Well, I hope you yourself understood what you said.
8- \
Hmm ..

[Sedoy]

in a country whose main part of its income is oil and gas export, by definition there cannot be millions of poor

judging by the number of Mexican fans who came to the World Cup across the globe from a country with millions of poor people, our country is almost completely impoverished ... :)

I can’t imagine such a number of our fans at the World Cup in Mexico ... :)

[Gnefredov]

Quote: Old Horseradish

Better than a test pilot, the hero of Russia Alexander Garnayev and you can’t say:
"Alexander Garnaev @A_Garnaev
MORE THAN IN 1/3 (THIRD) of Subjects R.F. = 36 out of 85 with the proposed pension reform - pensioners WILL NOT BE AT ALL! ... Glory to the State of finally defeating fascism, “voluntarily” choosing the National Idea - genocide of its own People !!! "

If we are talking about the same Garnaev, then the SU-30 STILL had my electronics installed.
Class.

[Old Horseradish]

Of course, about that, a student of Menitsky, participated in the first air shows in the USA-USSR in the early 90s. Menitsky singled him out: “A man of rare courage.” Check out his Twitter, there's a lot of interesting stuff there. Best regards, Old Horseradish.

[Gnefredov]

“Menitsky” yes, that’s him. Hmm, perhaps I didn’t live my life in vain.

Thanks, buddy. Like news from distant oblivion.

[Gnefredov]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

Our oligarchy must be driven by a filthy broom. Enough of the people to tear already. First, public property, then salary and jobs, then education and medicine, then pensions and benefits. Correctly asked questions to Putin "when are you pumping?"

That's right ... To do everything as it was in the USSR, neither oligarchs nor products in stores, not a damn thing ...

So you want it again?

Yes. That's what I want. I want a normal, smooth life for myself and my grandchildren. Instead of your liberal cries :) Young man
But you don’t know anything about the USSR. Well, if you know, tell me about BENTOS-600 without looking into a search engine.

[PValery53]

The Russian social bloc, together with the Russian oligarchy, must be sent to Mexico for “re-education.” It would be better for them to drink tequila there than to harm the already difficult life of Russian pensioners.

[Vadim237]

They will flourish there on drugs and there will be much more bobble in their pockets than in Russia.

[Gnefredov]

Quote: PValery53

The Russian social bloc, together with the Russian oligarchy, must be sent to Mexico for “re-education.” It would be better for them to drink tequila there than to harm the already difficult life of Russian pensioners.

Interesting idea

[Gnefredov]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

Not only did the USSR sell oil and gas, but everyone with a bare ass remained, hungry and the country fell apart ...

Oh my goodness :))))
USSR with bare ass? ))) WOW!
I would like such an ass...

Natasha Varley.
And who is this?

"Friend Glushko", by the way.

We were left with our bare ass, wow! Ass specialist :DDD
Yes, you can’t even remember three actors from the Baltic states off the top of your head. And the guys were WOW! How famous, throughout the entire Union.

[Vadim237]

The collapse of the USSR showed which republics really are “friends” for us.

[Gnefredov]

Quote: shubin

Definitely not a tenant.

I think he can handle it.

[APASUS]

You never know who promised something to someone, well, I was joking, you laughed too!
This is me talking about the promises of our ................

[dmitry_den]

Quote: For example

Everything social smacks of populism. And I like that smell. Raising the standard of living of the population is outright populism.

This is exactly what Putin promised before the elections

[Chever]

Note to the Government of the Russian Federation

What note? We also promise a lot of things, but things are still there...

[cast iron]

To earn a pension at 55 and 60 years old, we had to make a revolution, fight off the interventionists, White Guards and Basmachi, carry out collectivization and industrialization. Defend it again from 41-45. These are the people who were able to do this - they deserve it. And what can citizens who have safely lost all the achievements of socialism have to do with this pension? Why do we need an eight-hour working day, are there any pensions? I wanted jeans, chewing gum and redneck tours to redneck Turkey - go to work! Everything is fair. Those who worked for the USSR are already retired or have already suffered. And the new generation has already grown up under the bourgeoisie. This is his bourgeois reward: he managed to grab on to his old age - you don’t need a pension, but if he didn’t manage to - well, no one will particularly regret you, since you are so unnecessary that no one gave you enough money for a comfortable existence without working. The invisible hand of the market is ruthless and Jesuitically fair.