Vikings and runestones (part of 1)

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I know nine things:
Good visitor,
Dash in game tavleynoy,
I am a skier and a scribe.
Bow, paddle and glorious
Warehouse runes are subject to me.
I am skilled in forging,
As well as in the Guzel.
(Ryognvald Kali. "The Poetry of the Skalds". Translation by S. V. Petrov)


For thousands of years, mankind has done very well without writing. Well, it may have used pictures to convey information. But then, somewhere at the turn of the Bronze and Iron Ages, the volumes of information became so large that there was not enough human memory. It took the means of accounting and control more informative than pebbles and sticks, means of identification, in a word, everything that accurately conveys information over a distance and allows it to be saved.



The library of the Assyrian king Ashurbanipal died in the fire, but due to the fact that it consisted of “clay books”, it miraculously survived and reached our time. The same applies to the writing of the Scandinavian peoples, who possessed the so-called runic writing, that is, writing with the help of runes, signs similar to our alphabet, which were carved or carved on stone, metal, wood, and bone, and which therefore had a specific angular shape, convenient to cut.


Rune stones in the courtyard of the Church of Elling.

It is important to note that any written text is the most important source in studying the culture of the past, as it allows you to look into the spiritual world of a people who left behind their written signs and learn a lot about what to find out with the help of archaeological finds is very difficult. Therefore, it is not surprising that stones that have reached our time with runic inscriptions applied to them have become a real gift of fate for scientists.

Vikings and runestones (part of 1)

The large stone in Jelling is a kind of “birth certificate” of Denmark. It has a height of 2,43 meters, weighs about 10 tons and is installed by King Harald I Sine Tooth no earlier than 965 of the year. The inscription on it reads: “Harald the king placed this stone in honor of Gorm, his father, and Tyura, his mother. Harald, who conquered all of Denmark and Norway, who baptized the Danes. ”

What historical time do they refer to? It is believed that the most ancient monuments of runic writing date back to the border of our era. But the place of origin and its very origin is still debated. The Elder Edda (or Edda Samunda, or Song Edda), a poetic collection of Old Norse songs about the gods and heroes of Scandinavian mythology, says that the supreme god Odin paid with his sufferings on the Yggdrasil tree just to learn the runes. But in the "Song of Riga" it is said that the runes belonged to the god Riga, who taught them the son of hevding, who became the ancestor of the first king of the Vikings. That is, even in Scandinavia itself, opinions on the origin of the runic writing were very different.

In any case, the runes have become a characteristic monument of the era of the Great Migration of Nations and the first barbarian kingdoms, and many things have survived that contain inscriptions made by runes. However, after the adoption of Christianity and its spread, they were gradually ousted from Latin use, although they were used in Sweden even in the XVIII - XIX centuries.

The first references to the ancient runes in the literature refer to the 1554 year. Then Johannes Magnus in hisStories ready and svevov "led the Gothic alphabet, a year later, his brother Olaf Magnus in the" History of the Northern Nations "published the runic alphabet. But since many runic inscriptions were made on stones, even then books appeared with their drawings, including the runic calendar found on Gotland. Interestingly, since a number of stones have been lost since that time, their images have become the only source of their study for modern researchers.

Interest in the stones with runic inscriptions broke out only in the second half of the XIX century, and many stones became known to specialists already in the twentieth century from photographs of 1920-30-s and scientific publications in the beginning of 1940-x. It is possible that the reason for this attitude to the Viking heritage was its widespread use in Nazi Germany as a means of promoting Aryan spirit and culture. Well, then on these monuments of Scandinavian culture, various mystics and occultists, who considered the rune stones as certain “places of power”, directly “attacked”. The fashionable fashion of Scandinavian neo-paganism and mysticism, which flourished in lush colors, also contributed to the dissemination of pseudo-knowledge about runes and runestones, subtracted from the occult literature of modern authors. The same can be said about the popularization of the runes and paganism in modern Scandinavian rock: its bright, old-fashioned forms, today are simply replacing the original folklore works of the past.

The situation changed only at the beginning of the 2000-ies, among scientists again revived interest in runestones. Research groups were organized in a number of Scandinavian universities, specialized databases began to be created, in particular, such a database was created in Norway at the University in Uppsala. The electronic library "Runeberg" was assembled - an impressive in its capacity container of world scientific rhinological literature. By 2009, the year finally managed to settle all the legal and technical issues related to the online publication of the information accumulated in it, which then became available to experts from all over the world. Now in this database there are more than 900 runic inscriptions, and it continues to expand. Moreover, it includes not only the inscriptions found on the runestones in Denmark, but also in Germany, Sweden and Norway and other Scandinavian countries. Together with rare 1920-40-s photos there are also presented those that were taken already in our time.


Photo 1936 of the year. Stone near the house in Herrestad. The inscription on it reads: "Gudmund made this monument in memory of Ormar, his son."

It is interesting that in the study of runic stones there are a number of specific difficulties. For example, because of the texture of the stone on which the inscriptions made on them are stamped, much when looking at them depends on the observer's angle of view and the degree of their light. The same can be said about the research methodology of these stones: it is interdisciplinary in nature and includes both textological and philological methods, data from archaeological research, as well as texts of ancient sagas and evidence of chroniclers. One method is one-sided and may adversely affect the results of the study.


Photo 1937 of the year. Men are dragging a stone on the island of Faringsho. The inscription reads: “Stenfast installed a stone in memory of Bjorn, his brother ... in memory of Bjorn and Arnfast.”

Well, and the reading of the runic inscription on the stone itself begins with the determination of the direction in which the carver placed his text. So, if the safety of the inscription is not very good, it can be a rather serious problem for the researcher.

There are three types of arrangement of lines in runic inscriptions: when they run parallel to each other (the most ancient inscriptions are oriented from right to left), along the contour of a stone or like the Greek busustrohedon — that is, the writing method, in which its direction alternates depending on the parity of the lines. That is, if the first line is written from left to right, then the second line is written from right to left. In addition to archaic Greece, this type of letter was distributed in the Western Mediterranean and the Arabian Peninsula. Well, the contour inscriptions were typical of stones, in which the drawings are combined with inscriptions. In them, runes fill the outline of the drawing, usually decorated in the form of the body of a giant serpent.


Photo 1944 of the year. Stone in Nebbelholm. The contents of the inscription: “Gunnkel installed this stone in memory of Gunnar, the father, the son of Rod. Helga put him, her brother, in a stone coffin in Bath, in England. ”

The fact that the lines of the early (IV - VI centuries) runic inscriptions are located from right to left, became the basis for the hypotheses about the Middle Eastern or even ancient Egyptian origin of the runic writing. Europe’s traditional writing from left to right occurred gradually, as a result of the contact of the Scandinavians with their southern and western neighbors. It is noticed that early runic inscriptions (made before 800 of the year) usually have no ornament and often contain magic spells.

The big problem of reading runestones was the language in which the inscription was made on them. Already by the 7th century, that is, by the time when the tradition of installing runic stones was widely spread in Scandinavia, dialectal features and differences in the languages ​​of different Scandinavian peoples began to manifest themselves in them. Therefore, it is not surprising that many experts read many runic inscriptions on stones in quite different ways. First, they dealt with their poor-quality images and therefore mistakenly took some signs for others. And secondly, since it’s not easy to carve signs on a stone, their authors often resorted to abbreviations that were understandable at the time, but ... alas, incomprehensible in our day.

Today, 6578 runestones are known, of which 3314 are commemorative. More than half is in Sweden (3628), of which 1468 is concentrated in one of its regions, Uppland. In Norway, 1649 and very few in Denmark are 962. There are rune stones in Britain, as well as in Greenland, Iceland and the Faroe Islands. There are several such stones even in Russia, for example, on Valaam. But Russian runic stones have not been studied enough, due to the traditionally anti-Normanistic phobias that exist in our Russian historiography, as well as in public opinion, but they are honored by local mystics and occultists as "places of power".

Another extreme characteristic of our modern home-grown amateur runologists today is the attempt to “read” runic inscriptions on stones using the vocabulary of the modern Russian language: even if we assume that they, like the famous stone from Ryok, were put in no case could the texts be written in a language close to our modern Russian. Although the wide distribution of runes among Germanic tribes, including those living along the lower and middle reaches of the Dnieper, that is, ready, belonging to Chernyakhov culture, suggests that the hypothetical early Slavic writing, known as “cuts and cuts”, was formed on based on those runes that used goths.

Interestingly, in addition to real runestones, a number of their fakes are known. So, fakes, according to scientists, are Heivner and Kensington stones, which were found in the United States outside of any archaeological context that would at least say something about the Scandinavian presence in these places. This is explained by the “Viking Mania” that swept the USA in the 1960 of the last century. Also a fake is the discovery of two stones in 1967 and 1969, made by Oklahoma students. All of them turned out to be written on an artificial mixture of runes of the elder (II-VIII century) and younger (X-XII century) futars - that is, runic alphabets, which means they could not have been created by people of either era. Most likely, these schoolchildren, not understanding the specifics of various alphabets, simply copied them from some popular book about runes.


The inscription on this stone reads: “Sandar installed a stone in memory of Yuar, his relative. No one will produce a more talented son. May Thor protect. ”

One of the most frequent reasons for installing runestones was the death of their relative. Here, for example, about what the inscription on the Grenstensky stone says: “Toke put [this] stone after [death] Revle, the son of Esge, son of Björn. May God help his soul. ” At the same time, it is not at all necessary that such stones stand on the graves. Most likely, such stones were put not so much at the place of burial of this person, as in some significant places for him or for the whole community as a real “memory”!

The inscription on the Kollind stone testifies that they could have been placed in the homeland of the one who died in foreign lands and were buried there: “Toe put this stone after [death] Thue, who died in the eastern campaign and his brother Asveds, the blacksmith”. That is, runestones should not be considered monuments to the dead, but above all, commemorative stones.

For such memorial stones, the following manner of presenting information is characteristic:
1. X put this stone / cut out these runes after [death] Y.
2. Description of the circumstances of the death of Y, and enumeration of the feats accomplished by him.
3. Religious appeal to the gods, for example, "Thor consecrated these runes" or "God help him."

Here we must bear in mind that in the Scandinavian cult of the dead it was assumed that the soul of the deceased, if you mention it in the inscription, can move into this stone, receive sacrifices from living, talk with them and even fulfill their requests. It is not surprising that the Christian Church considered the runestones to be the creatures of the devil and fought them as best it could, with the result that many of them show signs of damage. On the other hand, in the national consciousness respect for these stones persisted until the late Middle Ages.


Photo 1929 of the year. “Alrik, the son of Sigrid, installed a stone in memory of his father Spyute, who was in the West and fought in the towns. He knew the ways to all the fortresses. ”

Now we do not know whether it was possible to put such a memorial stone in memory of any person, or it must be a “difficult person”, however, the structure of the text of these memorial stones is such that X (the person who installed such a stone) usually tried to indicate the merits of Y ( is the one who put it). This gives grounds for assuming that such stones were obtained only by certain exceptional personalities possessing “special power” capable of helping living people who turned to this person or this memorial stone for help.

It is also unknown what reward awaited the one who put this stone, not to mention the fact that it was quite expensive. Interestingly, in the inscriptions on runic memorial stones, people who put this stone are often listed, so it is quite possible that to get on the list of assistants allowed us to hope for some kind of blessing or to receive magical assistance.


Photo 1930 of the year. The inscription is carved on a rock by the road leading to the city of Södertälje. It says: “Holmfast cleared the way in memory of Inga ... to his good mother .... Holmfast cleared the road and made a bridge in memory of Gammal, his father, who lived in Nesby. May God help his spirit. Osten (cut). "

Runestone researchers identify several types of them. First of all, these are “long stones”, having a height of up to three meters or more, made in the tradition of menhirs. These include, for example, the richly ornamented Anundzhegsky stone set by Folkwidd for his son Heden. And in the inscription, this Heden is called the brother of Anund. Therefore, historians believe that this Anund is none other than the Swedish king Anund, who ruled at the beginning of the eleventh century. And let, according to historical chronicles, his father was Olaf Skhetkonung, and Folkweed is just a distant relative, this relationship was quite enough for his mention on this stone.

To be continued ...
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  1. Cat
    +8
    5 July 2018 05: 41
    That is, if the first line is written from left to right, then the second - from right to left. In addition to archaic Greece, this type of writing was distributed in the Western Mediterranean and on the Arabian Peninsula.

    Not only! Such writing (bull furrow) was much more widespread, including on Fr. Easter.
    Rez and four

    At one time, as a child (7-8 years), I was surprised by the marking of log cabins. I even remember trying to tell the master that the Roman numeral "5" is written with a tick "V", and not with a dash "/". What was ridiculed that Rome in his carpentry craft and does not smell.
    Then I did not understand that I saw the marking with cuts, and not with letters and numbers. You won’t see this today. Paint killed tradition.
    For the article Oleg Vyacheslavovich sincerely, thank you!
    1. +7
      5 July 2018 05: 59
      Glad you liked it! There will be a continuation and many more articles about the Vikings.
    2. +2
      5 July 2018 09: 50
      Another thing amuses me. It is worth finding something Slavic, so the cry for fake begins, and the inscriptions on the stones are perceived as given.
      1. +1
        5 July 2018 10: 23
        Have you heard of the Dvina stones?
        1. +2
          5 July 2018 10: 42
          Not yet...
        2. 0
          5 July 2018 11: 38
          Quote: Curious
          Have you heard of the Dvina stones?

          Not yet, now I'll see
        3. 0
          5 July 2018 12: 27
          Quote: Curious
          Have you heard of the Dvina stones?

          And how do you like the stone from Izborsk?

          I took pictures myself.
          1. +1
            5 July 2018 13: 03
            Maybe I'm wrong, but judging by the photo, you visited the Izborsk or Truvorovo hillforts.
            But my comment was not about that, but about your remark: "It is worth finding something Slavic, so the cry for fake begins, and the inscriptions on the stones are perceived as given."
            You write about shouts about fakes, but it turns out that you don’t know anything about Slavic antiquities. But the Dvina or Borisov stones of the Slavs are peers and, possibly, analogues of the Viking runic stones. And they have been studied since the 16th century. Have you tried reading the question before writing?
            1. +2
              5 July 2018 13: 53
              Quote: Curious
              Maybe I'm wrong, but judging by the photo, you visited the Izborsk or Truvorovo hillforts.
              But my comment was not about that, but about your remark: "It is worth finding something Slavic, so the cry for fake begins, and the inscriptions on the stones are perceived as given."
              You write about shouts about fakes, but it turns out that you don’t know anything about Slavic antiquities. But the Dvina or Borisov stones of the Slavs are peers and, possibly, analogues of the Viking runic stones. And they have been studied since the 16th century. Have you tried reading the question before writing?

              Well, it’s not possible to know everything, but the Dvina stones are not Slavic, but Old Russian monuments. This is different. There is praise to God, crosses. And about the attacks on Slavic monuments, so remember at least the Veles book, the di and the ancient Russian monument The Word of Igor’s Regiment, and even the Tale of Bygone Years are still screaming that this is all fake.
              1. +1
                5 July 2018 14: 19
                Firstly, not screams, but doubts, a phenomenon normal for the process of cognition. And do you have evidence that the artifacts you mentioned are genuine?
                1. 0
                  5 July 2018 15: 08
                  Quote: Curious
                  Firstly, not screams, but doubts, a phenomenon normal for the process of cognition. And do you have evidence that the artifacts you mentioned are genuine?

                  Doubts are expressed by historians on the pages of the journal Voprosy istorii, for example, few people read such magazines. So what exactly are screams, one might even say screams.
                  Do you have data on the falsification of these historical monuments? wink
                  1. +2
                    5 July 2018 17: 51
                    Are you an Odessa malan? To answer a question with a question is precisely the style of highly scientific discussions of Odessa Privoz.
                    As for the evidence, you will find it in the issues of history mentioned by you and in the issues of linguistics.
                    But if you are more authoritative than Kurenkov and Mirolyubov, then science, as they say, is powerless. These two "authorities" are another duet. Kurenkov, by the way, also looked for Noah’s ark and even found an inscription on it on the Ararat Pass. His single title of “Doctor of Psychology at the College of Divine Metaphysics” may convince him to be a “giant of thought.”
                    1. 0
                      5 July 2018 18: 09
                      Quote: Curious
                      Are you an Odessa malan? To answer a question with a question is precisely the style of highly scientific discussions of Odessa Privoz.
                      As for the evidence, you will find it in the issues of history mentioned by you and in the issues of linguistics.
                      But if you are more authoritative than Kurenkov and Mirolyubov, then science, as they say, is powerless. These two "authorities" are another duet. Kurenkov, by the way, also looked for Noah’s ark and even found an inscription on it on the Ararat Pass. His single title of “Doctor of Psychology at the College of Divine Metaphysics” may convince him to be a “giant of thought.”

                      I answered your question and asked my own. And if you can not distinguish screams from the opinions of a professional, then this is your problem.
                      1. +1
                        5 July 2018 18: 18
                        So was that the answer? Sorry, did not catch. I saw the question and seemed to answer it. Are you on the side of screaming or on the side of professionals?
      2. +7
        5 July 2018 10: 49
        There will be material about Slavic antiquities ... it is already in the VO archive. Two materials will appear after that.
    3. 0
      22 January 2020 16: 29
      It is believed that the oldest monuments of runic writing are dated to the border of our era.
      There is only one BUT ... it is impossible to date runic inscriptions. An attempt at dating will show only the age of the stone. And its dating will be the same, both on the outside on the chips of the inscription and on the inside. So it’s impossible to understand when the inscription was made.
  2. +6
    5 July 2018 07: 59
    Good article!
    Runestones - the most valuable source, such individual chronicles
  3. +4
    5 July 2018 08: 56
    Carefully approached the runes.

    However, any stone carving led to a broken style.

    Not as it is now, when information is flooding in space.

    That's interesting.
  4. +3
    5 July 2018 11: 01
    Apparently, such inscriptions occupied a large place in the mentality of the ancient Scandinavians. On the second and last photo - 100% granite! Well this is how much work! Who worked with the stone - can appreciate.
    1. +3
      5 July 2018 11: 33
      Remember the aria of the Varangian guest from the opera "Sadko" - from the rocks of those stone with us, Varangians, bones ... and thoughts and secrets from fogs. So there is nothing surprising. There was a lot of wood and a lot of stone. The fragility of the tree, even oak, was obvious, as was the eternity of the stone. Hence the conclusion - the beloved does not mind the stone! The main thing is the memory of him!
      1. +2
        5 July 2018 12: 21
        I think the matter is not in the person you love (Gerasim also did not regret the dog of the stone). There is something deeper and more solid. This is not a tombstone, it is something like our plaque on the walls of buildings, but with the name of the performer. Generational connection? They already knew their pedigrees up to the 20th knee. The connection of the worlds? May be.
        1. +3
          5 July 2018 13: 10
          I can not say anything about this ...
  5. +2
    5 July 2018 11: 04
    Although the wide distribution of runes among the Germanic tribes, including those living along the lower and middle reaches of the Dnieper, that is, the Goths, belonging to the Chernyakhov culture, suggests

    So actually the “Slavs” as an ethnic group were invented in Dalmatia by declaring it ready as “Slavs”
  6. +3
    5 July 2018 11: 09
    But what is it, the respected Vyacheslav that neither the material, is just a masterpiece?!? fellow I learned a lot about runic stones. By the way, I remember that at the last military-historical festival “The Battle of a Thousand Swords” (see my article about this), the reconstructors, restoring Ancient Scandinavia and Ancient Russia, sculpted a runestone in honor of this event.
    1. +1
      5 July 2018 11: 44
      Yes, this material was given on 17 on June 2016 of the year and it differs primarily in the selection of excellent photographs. I re-read it again. A good sample of author reporting. Some pics generally shine. My only wish to you, Mikhail, is not to "lose" this topic from your hands. And further on it to collect and publish materials with the same good photos. It’s a pity that there is no photo of this self-made “stone”!
      1. +2
        5 July 2018 16: 33
        Quote: kalibr
        I re-read it again. A good sample of author reporting. Some pics generally shine. My only wish to you, Mikhail, is not to "lose" this topic from your hands. And further on it to collect and publish materials with the same good photos. It’s a pity that there is no photo of this self-made “stone”!

        I’ll try, but I’m rarely at events of this level. request The stone, by the way, maybe even stayed there, in Kolomenskoye, because the plan was to cut down precisely the runic row in honor of the "Battle of 1000 swords" (unless of course it was removed at the direction of the Moscow City Hall). But, so to speak, the idea of ​​linking traditions through the thickness of time is evident!
  7. +3
    5 July 2018 11: 51
    But I wonder why runes were written only texts of religious or mystical content. Where are the sagas, edy, chronicles, recorded runes? Where are the diplomatic documents, but just a business correspondence? Are there any rune texts of "secular" content? As far as I understand, the runes meant exactly the sounds of the language spoken by the author of the inscription, but at the same time, each rune could have its own meaning, like Chinese characters. If the runic writing had a phonetic basis, then what prevented its use in everyday life?
    In Russia, after the appearance of the Cyrillic alphabet, the people, as soon as they didn’t practice writing, even sent each other’s foul language, at least to recall the birch bark No. 35 from Staraya Russa smile why didn’t the Swedes write in birch bark? The only explanation that comes to mind is that the runes are secret writing, the ability to use them was considered sacred knowledge, accessible only to the elect, so that, probably, they would receive more money for compiling ritual inscriptions. And yet the question remains - if the runes were used almost from the 1st century AD, why in such a long period of time they did not become the common property, or at least the property of the upper classes — nobility, warriors, etc. and not used for immediate needs? It is noteworthy that written language enters a wide circulation among the population along with the spread of Christianity - is there a connection between these facts and if so, what is it? Why with the advent of Latin, and in Russia with the arrival of Cyrillic it (literacy) already in the XI century. completely lost its sacredness?
    1. +1
      5 July 2018 13: 09
      Questions ... however! Only on them one can write a whole book. but alas, not so much "in the subject." to take up this work, and even answer your questions at least. Alas! Very difficult subject!
      1. 0
        23 August 2018 00: 23
        Alas! Very difficult subject!

        Try it. It's a good thing. You can try to bind the profession of Eril (a certain magician - runodel (primitive)), who knew how to "bind" the runes, according to fairly strict mathematical laws. There we will also put the inscriptions on the gravestones from the inside (who will read them there ?!), "closed runes" by the body of the Serpent .... Well, those very "centers of power" ... I am ready to help with my modest knowledge.
    2. +4
      5 July 2018 13: 33
      "In Russia, after the appearance of the Cyrillic alphabet, people as soon as they did not practice writing, they even sent each other curses, to recall, at least, birch bark letter No. 35 from Staraya Russa"
      So in Scandinavia, after the Latin with the advent of Christianity supplanted the runic letter, the people also began to write more. By the way, the periods of Christianization of Scandinavia and the penetration of the Slavic alphabet into Russia coincide in time. It can be assumed that the runic letter had a slightly different purpose, and with the emergence of the need for the transfer of significant amounts of information it was supplanted by more progressive forms. This may be the answer to your question.: "But I wonder why the runes wrote only texts of religious or mystical content. Where are the sagas, eds, chronicles recorded by the runes? Where are the diplomatic documents, but just business correspondence have been sent notes? Are there any runic texts of" secular "content?"
      Although the runic texts of "secular" content are known, but there are few of them.
      The most probably famous is "Codex Runicus".

      This is a 202-page legal text written in the XNUMXth century in handwritten form.
      It consists of three sections: a section on Danish Scanian law, a section on legal law at Skansky University and a list of Danish kings with descriptions of the Swedish-Danish border.
      There is no reliable evidence of the wide literary use of runes in the early days, however, some scholars believe that runic writing was widely used for all types of secular writing. Perhaps in time this historical mystery will be solved.
      1. Cat
        +4
        5 July 2018 17: 48
        One of the most famous secular entries on the runestone of Gotland!
        “Hagbyarn [and his] brother Hrodvislis, Eystein [and] Eymund, together installed these stones along Hravn, south of Rovstein. They got right up to Ayfor. ”

        For over a century, historians have been breaking spears! Where did they get to? And where is this Eifor.
        1. +1
          5 July 2018 20: 18
          Quote: Kotischa
          For over a century, historians have been breaking spears! Where did they get to? And where is this Eifor.

          I’ll propose my own option - since the Baltic was not a problem for the Vikings, but hiking to Byzantium or the Mediterranean was valuable, then you need to look there. And most likely we are talking about the Athos (Ayfonos) peninsula, in the Aegean Sea, i.e. after Constantinople, the brave Normans were sent there or they themselves sailed there, and this is really far away.
  8. +2
    5 July 2018 15: 17
    History comes to life thanks to such articles
    I am waiting for the continuation
    1. Cat
      +2
      5 July 2018 18: 52
      Finally, I got to Caesar and the devil knows with what roost I put him the well-deserved "+"!
      I honestly became a plus to put back in the subway - it didn’t work out, then during dinner I poked five times with a ring, and only after a shower, my stubbornness overcame the ups and downs of my phone and its telephone god!
      Viva Caesar, Regards Kotische!
      1. +1
        5 July 2018 20: 47
        Hmm. The current Russian mobile Internet reminds me of the analogue mobile communications of twenty years ago. "Here we play, here we do not play, here we wrapped fish." That is why in the hilly-mountainous Catalonia the network is everywhere (checked), and in the super-flat (I would even say concave) St. Petersburg - “it will go out, go out, or go out again”?
        1. +1
          5 July 2018 20: 49
          Quote: 3x3zsave
          That is why in the hilly-mountainous Catalonia the network is everywhere (checked), and in the super-flat (I would even say concave) St. Petersburg - "it will go out, then go out ..."

          Ummm ... less interference in the "mountainous-hilly", no? wink
          1. 0
            5 July 2018 21: 48
            A little more. This is super-VHF, only within the direct line of sight of the repeater. Further, the signal power is lost exponentially.
            1. +1
              5 July 2018 22: 19
              Quote: 3x3zsave
              A little more

              How's that?
              And - yes ... did you walk on roofs in St. Petersburg, or did you walk along the sidewalk?
              This is the question of
              Quote: 3x3zsave
              hilly mountainous Catalonia
        2. 0
          5 July 2018 21: 33
          Strange, you all complain about the mobile Internet, moreover, obviously not in the taiga wilderness. Our Russian MTS provides normal Internet access, I use it without problems.
          1. 0
            6 July 2018 06: 52
            Did not catch: "all" or "all"? If it’s about me, I don’t complain, I swear. At the same time, I understand the reasons for the situation and, with a feeling of deep interest, expect it to be resolved.
  9. +3
    5 July 2018 15: 37
    Quote: Wend
    few people read such magazines.

    Few from non-academic settings. Everyone has their own party. "Issues of Obstetrics and Gynecology" read by even fewer people.
  10. 0
    6 July 2018 19: 23
    Very interesting ... and on the eve of Kupala Night.
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    21 August 2018 08: 32
    We read carefully: "... after the adoption of Christianity and its spread, the runes were gradually replaced from use by the Latin alphabet, although in Sweden they were used even in the 17th-9th centuries ..." (and this is apparently true, because in the XNUMXth century, the funeral service of the Swedish king was carried out in Slavic, and the recording of the funeral service was already in the Latin alphabet), and more: "The language in which the inscription was made on them became a big problem in reading the runestones. By the XNUMXth century, that is, by the time when the tradition of installing runic stones stones spread widely in Scandinavia, dialectal features and differences in the languages ​​of different Scandinavian peoples began to appear in them ... "- now we realize the meaning of what the author tried to bury in verbal heaps - in fact, until the XNUMXth century AD, the author admits the existence of a universal proto-language and proto-script understandable for any peoples ... Although further, again, the same old song, about how the Normans taught everything, most of the Slavs, how to read the runes in Slavic runes incorrectly and etc.