NATO's provocation at Russia's borders

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The heads of NATO countries with childlike naivety say that the exercises and the reinforcement of the alliance contingent at the Russian borders should not worry and alarm Russia. However, if you read the media of NATO countries, experts and journalists do not agree with the authorities.

In Norway, the major newspaper Aftenposten published an article entitled "NATO and Norway are conducting exercises near Russia during the World Cup." In it, Russia expert Julia Wilhelmsen from the Norwegian Institute of Foreign Policy NUPI answers a journalist's question whether the holding of the Saber Strike exercises in the Baltic countries during the World Cup in Russia is a provocation from the West.



“There is no doubt that the Russian view of NATO is absolutely paranoid now, and that the Russians will interpret this as a provocation”- Julia Wilhelmsen answered this question. How can the provocation be interpreted in some other way, Julia, unfortunately, did not explain. In the West, they are accustomed to betraying black for white and using a policy of double standards. But if during the European Football Championship in 2016, the Russian fleet conducted exercises for example in the Black Sea, Europeans would hardly be happy.



In addition, Julia's colleague, Yakub M. Godzimirsky, believes that the purpose of the exercises is to show the Russians that this region is taken seriously. He also connects this with the fact that "after Sochi (the 2014 Olympics), Russia annexed Crimea." The expert probably cannot imagine that the residents of Crimea wanted to return to a country that is able to organize such a magnificent Olympiad, and leave a country that is only capable of fictitious murders and the Maidan. It's no surprise if some parts of the Baltics want to join Russia after such a great FIFA World Cup.

Norway did not stop only at the participation of its troops in the "Saber Strike" maneuvers. Two days before the start of the championship in Russia, the official website of the Norwegian government announced an increase in US troops near the Norwegian-Russian border. The leader of the Socialist Left Party of Norway and its speaker on security issues, Audun Lusbakken, openly stated that the decision was dictated by American interests and would lead to an escalation of the situation.

Norwegian Defense Minister Frank Bakke-Jensen said on this occasion that the expansion of cooperation with the United States is in line with the parliament's long-term defense plan, which was approved in 2006 and will be evaluated only in 2022. So, nothing can be changed now.
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  1. +14
    17 June 2018 05: 58
    When NATO conducts exercises near Russian borders, it is occasionally necessary to "indulge" with the available electronic warfare equipment, making adjustments to the exercises. Let them train on ...
    1. +3
      17 June 2018 07: 34
      These students are not without reason that the Yankees conceived .. Either Bandera will rush to breakthrough, or they will start to bomb Syria. And most likely this and that at the same time!
      1. MPN
        +14
        17 June 2018 08: 13
        Enough of the media panic, doctrines so doctrines, so what?
        1. +3
          17 June 2018 08: 21
          Quote: MPN
          Enough of the media panic, doctrines so doctrines, so what?

          These teachings just do not hold, always have a distant intention .. Anglo-Saxons however!
          1. MPN
            +8
            17 June 2018 08: 25
            The exercises are carried out along with everything else and to demonstrate strength in order to intimidate, tense the situation, destabilize the mood ... Let's help to fulfill the plan of the exercises and get very scared ... Yes
            1. 0
              17 June 2018 08: 30
              Quote: MPN
              Let's help fulfill the training plan and get very scared ..

              If so, but arrogant Saxons are cunning and insidious, and they don’t just invest money in teachings .. You’ll see Donbass begin to bomb and attack! soldier
              1. MPN
                +11
                17 June 2018 08: 32
                As long as I remember myself, these teachings are held so much, we should have died of fear, we shouldn’t have to react to the barking of the dog, she will think that you are afraid of her and increase aggression ...
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            1. +6
              17 June 2018 11: 20
              Quote: Senobit
              Well, Russia introduced troops into the Crimea, then Donbass .... On TV across the country they say that America will be turned to ashes .... there are reasons to conduct exercises from other countries


              I’m embarrassed to ask: did you register on the site yesterday to "carry" such nonsense ?!
              1. +3
                17 June 2018 11: 24
                Quote: B.T.W.
                I’m embarrassed to ask: did you register on the site yesterday to "carry" such nonsense ?!

                Hi Tanya. It's just a one-day Troll. From Kiev gay parade returned.
                1. +2
                  17 June 2018 11: 31
                  Greetings, Alexander hi Yes, I already realized that the troll, they divorced on the site, that mold in a damp basement.
                  1. 0
                    17 June 2018 15: 45
                    I have been reading this site since 2015) but I began to read comments .... and was very surprised that there are many gifted commentators
                2. 0
                  17 June 2018 15: 43
                  what kind of problem is the participants from the site with gay jokes? I have not been to Ukraine for all my 30 years .... check and checkmate
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          3. 0
            17 June 2018 15: 48
            Anglo-Saxons, however ...
            Of course, right! It’s just us, simple-minded people, who, for the sake of Russian amusement, just like that.
            heh heh ...
    2. SSR
      +1
      17 June 2018 09: 29
      Quote: ROSS 42
      When NATO conducts exercises near Russian borders, it is occasionally necessary to "indulge" with the available electronic warfare equipment, making adjustments to the exercises. Let them train on ..

      It seems to me that when such exercises are held at such a time, then we need to conduct "exercises" by the forces of three diggers and a hundred journalists, imitating the detonation of nuclear landmines at the border.
      That would "Cyber ​​Strike" and residents know that they burn first.
  2. +2
    17 June 2018 06: 01
    Well, hell, got it !!! let me at least watch football !!! okay?!? drinks
  3. +8
    17 June 2018 06: 01
    Isn’t it time to organize something like this near Murmansk or in the Pskov region .. Yes, “some parts of the Baltic States will want to be part of Russia after such a great World Cup” ... But we need IT ?,
    1. +4
      17 June 2018 06: 15
      Quote: 210ox
      Isn’t it time to organize something like this near Murmansk or in the Pskov region .. Yes, “some parts of the Baltic States will want to be part of Russia after such a great World Cup” ... But we need IT ?,

      Yes, absolutely, no !!! feed them blessed ?! am
    2. +2
      17 June 2018 06: 26
      Quote: 210ox
      Is it time to organize something like that near Murmansk or in the Pskov region.,
      Well, yes, yes! It’s time for a long time !!!!! True, talk of the slow-witted, mistaken and paranoid Russians will turn into loud screams then !!!!
  4. +5
    17 June 2018 06: 16
    Offering to make a rocky road along the border and once a week to drive a column of tanks along it ... a hundred cars ... It seems that the effect will be amazing ...
    1. +1
      17 June 2018 17: 08
      A quite good suggestion. Yes tanks with TD from jet aircraft. (Maybe there are such?) And the distance from the PCB is 100 meters to be. good
  5. AUL
    +2
    17 June 2018 06: 17
    What's the news? Or do you have to write about every journalistic vysery from the west? So the Internet is not enough, there are many such experts! Dear editors, are there really no more materials worthy of publication?
  6. +3
    17 June 2018 06: 21
    Let football go its own way. And what prevents us from conducting exercises, opposite Norway, in the Baltic. Well, they want tension. It’s even just to drag an unnecessary barge with containers, but officially declare the doctrine and launches. Let them guess.
  7. +2
    17 June 2018 06: 23
    Quote: Phil77
    Quote: 210ox
    Isn’t it time to organize something like this near Murmansk or in the Pskov region .. Yes, “some parts of the Baltic States will want to be part of Russia after such a great World Cup” ... But we need IT ?,

    Yes, absolutely, no !!! feed them blessed ?! am


    They are already sitting on the neck of the Russian Federation, receiving from it all the energy! They also shit in her pocket as a sign of excessive gratitude!
  8. +5
    17 June 2018 06: 27
    They play on the nerves, like on a violin. But when the Russian Federation conducts exercises on its territory, they screech like undercut pigs. It is unlikely that NATO will dare to openly intervene, the threat from outside has always rallied the Russian people, but constant provocations can cause the Russian society to split into “militarist patriots,” with the notion of a clear external enemy, the root cause of all evil, and “civic patriots” confident that the root cause of all ill-stealing power, caring only about the interests of the oligarchs. There are full arguments and arguments on the other hand. All the salt is that we will see the results of this struggle as old people, and our children will get it. Contradictions will accumulate, artificially (and not only) heat up, and “shoot” in about 20 years. Not so many years have passed from the era of stagnation to 1991. The USA as a state has existed since 1776 without changing the state system, but in Russia the system has changed 2 times. Moreover, the USSR lasted 70 years. Work on the collapse of the country is proceeding systematically and progressively and without the right ideological policy of the leadership of the Russian Federation, confirmed by real deeds (welfare of the people), it will bear its disastrous results.
    1. +1
      17 June 2018 11: 15
      Quote: vonWolfenstein
      NATO is unlikely to decide on outright intervention

      hiRuslan.
      The policy of NATO (read - USA) is aimed at the constancy of tension at the borders of Russia. And I must say the alliance copes with this task perfectly. NATO adopted a lot of techniques from its predecessor - Hitler's Abwehr. Well, and naturally, propaganda blah blah in the spirit of Josep Goebbels. Here's how the American political scientist argues about these "somersaults":
  9. +2
    17 June 2018 07: 12
    Norwegian Minister of Defense Frank Bakke-Jensen says in this regard that the expansion of cooperation with the United States is in line with long term plan Parliament for Defense, which was approved in 2006 and will be evaluated only in 2022.

    bent over for a long time gathered ... stretching pleasure ... laughing
  10. 0
    17 June 2018 07: 40
    All the actions of our Western partners (read potential opponents) clearly indicate that they again "combed" in one place and in order to calm this itch some 50 years, they want to get in a brazen face, well, what’s behind us "will not rust "!
  11. +2
    17 June 2018 07: 48
    Come on there. This is not World War II.
    Here the rockets will fly right on the heads of the instigators,
    if you want to repeat.
    And on the other side it is well understood.
    But it’s necessary to show why European countries pay money
    to the NATO fund. So they make a show.
  12. +1
    17 June 2018 09: 14
    When Russia conducts exercises near the borders of NATO, all topwar editors unanimously write that paranoids from the EU have completely moved off the coils, they believe that our exercises are a provocation. When NATO conducts its exercises on our borders, the editor writes that this is a provocation and gives out "How can I interpret the provocation in some other way, Julia, unfortunately, did not explain. In the West, they are used to giving out black and white and using a double standard policy" . And after that, the military review wonders why they consider it propagandists working for the Kremlin. Dear editors, if you pretend to be the truth of your information, please be kind, keep an objective mind, don’t add your inappropriate comments, or do you think that readers are so dumb that they cannot make up their own point of view?
    1. +3
      17 June 2018 11: 08
      Quote: SecretParadox
      pretend to the veracity of your information, then be kind, adhere to objectivity,

      Yes, where so objectively! Olympics in China, 08.08.08. Saakashvili with the blessing of the Yankees shoots our peacekeepers (!) In Tskhinvali ... It’s a pity that our tanks were turned from Tbilisi ...
      Now the Baltic Limitrophs behave similarly to Georgians ... But they are hiding behind NATO forces ... And why arrange a defile of NATO formations at our borders?
      the purpose of the exercises is to show the Russians that this region is taken seriously.
      And the topic of the exercises? Probably the "Shield of Scandinavia"? Not! - "Saber strike" !!! It’s good that it’s not a “Viking ax”, otherwise we would be completely scared.
      In other words, the focus of the exercises is offensive. Apparently, the NATO people realized that the United States could only land their expeditionary force in Norway. There is no hope for the Baltic states. Which is generally correct!
      1. 0
        17 June 2018 13: 09
        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        Yes, where so objectively! Olympics in China, 08.08.08. Saakashvili with the blessing of the Yankees shoots our peacekeepers (!) In Tskhinvali ... It’s a pity that our tanks were turned from Tbilisi ...

        I have no idea how this relates to my comment.
        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        Why arrange a defile of NATO formations at our borders?

        In addition, why Russia conducts its exercises near the borders of NATO is to play with muscles and this is an ordinary phenomenon in world politics.
        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        And the topic of the exercises? Probably the "Shield of Scandinavia"? No! - "Saber Strike"!

        That is, the argument that the teachings are provocative and offensive is a big name? Well, I have nothing to tell you about this. The fact that a lot more tanks and soldiers took part in the exercises of Russia is even more amusing, but they are still purely “defensive” and not provocative in any way, but they are completely dead !!!!
  13. +2
    17 June 2018 09: 35
    "It is not surprising if some parts of the Baltic states want to be part of Russia ..."

    No thanks. For 45 years they fed, watered, and built factories, ports, schools, etc. to the lazy Baltic countries.
    Now they only have a way back - from industrial states to farms and manors. sad
    1. +2
      17 June 2018 10: 27
      Quote: military pensioner
      No thanks. For 45 years they fed, watered, and built factories, ports, schools, etc. to the lazy Baltic countries.

      Well, why not? It is necessary, but on other conditions.
      In view of hopelessness, no longer do new Russian regions as before, a "showcase", and to develop exclusively transport and military infrastructure.
      Well, with Kaliningrad, finally, a direct message will appear, and NATO will move away from the center of Russia.
  14. +1
    17 June 2018 10: 06
    And what is the provocation? Paranoia really.
    1. +3
      17 June 2018 11: 30
      Quote: AlexanderVP
      And what is the provocation? Paranoia really.

      Do not tell! What are states doing on another continent?
      International maneuvers are not a provocation against Russia, but allied exercises. This is what ordinary scare looks like, says American expert Ray Woitick. And the former US military attaché in Poland, the reserve colonel, and now the director of the Warsaw office of the influential Washington Center for the Analysis of European Politics (CEPA) * comments on international exercises under the command of the United States. They pass near the border with the participation of 18 of thousands of troops from 19 states.
      - What is the main goal of the Saber Strike exercises this year? How is Saber Strike - 2018 different from previous exercises?

      “Saber Strike” is a lengthy exercise that the United States has been conducting for many years. They are controlled by the Pentagon, responsible for their joint command of the US Armed Forces in Europe, and the United States Army in Europe, whose headquarters are located in Wiesbaden, Germany, is involved in them.

      “Saber strike” - large-scale exercises of the American army, which demonstrate our determination and readiness to protect the security and sovereignty of our friends and allies on the eastern flank of NATO and in general all members of the Alliance. Saber Strike has been held since 2010 of the year. This year, exercises include much larger, much faster, and better synchronized operations. They are combined with other exercises in the region. This includes the Baltic Operations naval exercises in the Baltic Sea, as well as the Swift Response - Quick Response, as well as the exercises of the American troops.
      There is the training of the invasion operation ... And you say - "paranoia."
      1. +2
        17 June 2018 11: 39
        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        There is a training invasion operation ..

        Most likely yes, yes here is the material, in confirmation.
        “The linguistic aspect of military exercises, the presence in the power structures of native speakers of a foreign language means preparing for invading foreign territory or organizing provocations on it. In the first case, taking into account the experience of Americans entering the active phase of two world wars in Europe at the last stage, we can assume that to minimize losses among US troops at the beginning of a likely large-scale conflict with Russia, satellite forces (Poland, Baltic Limitrophs, Georgia, Ukraine) will be used. "the shells of the advancing groups, will form the basis of sabotage units, forces to combat the partisan movement and maintain order in the zone of occupation, guard camps for prisoners of war."

        https://www.vpk-news.ru/articles/43111?utm_source
        = warfiles.ru
      2. 0
        17 June 2018 14: 52
        Quote: BoA KAA
        Do not tell! What are states doing on another continent?

        Why can't they be here? Norway invited them, they arrived.
        In what provocation? Hint: emphasis on the word "provocation".
        There would be a provocation if, for example, they violated our borders “as if by accident”, which would have caused Russian retaliatory actions.
        And so, let them conduct exercises wherever they want, until they violate international law with these exercises.
  15. +1
    17 June 2018 10: 19
    NATO at the borders of Russia
    They want Russia to be from Lisbon to New York.
  16. 0
    17 June 2018 10: 46
    Russia probably forgets that these are borders not only on the part of Russia! on the other side is another state too! And there are reasons to conduct exercises
    1. +2
      17 June 2018 11: 46
      Quote: Senobit
      And there are reasons to conduct exercises

      Well yes! These reasons are the training and development of the interaction of the invasion forces (USCM) with the support forces (combat groups of the Republic of Poland, the Baltic states and Norway) ... Amy themselves say that this is a maneuver of the US armed forces on the eastern flank of the ATVD. What else is not clear?
  17. 0
    17 June 2018 12: 17
    Fear God, what a provocation! Normal combat training.
    The decision on the full and final European integration of Russia has already been made, so the guys are getting ready. No, of course, in four years, everyone has already become convinced that the military-political leadership of the young country of the Russian Federation will under no circumstances go to extreme measures, and it is not difficult to endure deep concern, but the excess of the performer is not excluded ...
    Well, how does any zealous commander of the district, even just a divisional commander, remember about duty and honor, and say: "I take command over myself in connection with the betrayal of the supreme power," or else how will he distort the legal order of surrender? It can be awkward ...
    So, just in case, it’s necessary to train the occupation forces, and even prepare the “attack of the Russian aggressor” in such an environment handy.
    1. +1
      17 June 2018 12: 47
      You, my dear, either hibernated for 25-30 years (at least all 90s), or are practicing the most delusional utterances, forgive me generously ...
      1. 0
        17 June 2018 12: 52
        Very informative remark.
        1. +1
          17 June 2018 17: 38
          Quote: kakvastam
          Very informative remark.

          Namely - it is not ideal from a linguistic point of view, but as clearly and concisely describes the contents of your previous comment ...
          1. 0
            17 June 2018 22: 53
            It is, of course, extremely capacious, and that is why it is devoid of any meaning, bearing an exclusively emotional assessment.
            Do you think European integration will be canceled? So it’s unlikely, she’s not beating them for the first hundred years.
            Or do you believe in the overwhelming power of retaliation? So the guys are now puffing with all their might, so that we can defeat us without the WMD forbidden by the treaties, and the first nuclear club to whine is not easy.
            And time will judge us in any way, and I would very much like to be mistaken in my forecasts.
            1. +1
              17 June 2018 23: 01
              Quote: kakvastam
              Do you think European integration will be canceled? So it’s unlikely, she’s not beating them for the first hundred years.

              Dear, here is WHAT Eurointegration? Have you missed Russia and Ukraine for an hour? Right there - yes, the European integration is in full swing, already the dust from the races is ...

              And we already ate this "European integration" in the 90s, thanks, as they say. Our oligarchs, of course, the trouble is the same, and for the country and for everything, only they quarreled with the West strongly, so that the movement towards the West still doesn’t shine for us, and I hope it won’t shine for as long as possible. ..
    2. +2
      17 June 2018 12: 52
      Quote: kakvastam
      will distort a legitimate surrender order? It can be embarrassing ... Well, just in case, I have to train the occupying forces.
      Kind! fool
      Wake up! YOU'RE raving !!! am
      1. 0
        17 June 2018 12: 54
        Do you think even an excess of the artist is impossible?
        I am more optimistic.
        1. +3
          17 June 2018 13: 01
          Quote: kakvastam
          Do you think even an excess of the artist is impossible?

          Why should he be? Management is debugged, the state of troops and fleet forces meets the level of established combat readiness. The salary is paid on time and not the same as in our time. Those who want to serve under the contract are not able to cope. The girls again dream of marrying a military man ... The authority of the military-political leadership of the country and the Armed Forces is at a high level. - So why take the "Rokhlin relapse"? It seems that there is no need to save the Fatherland. And leave all left-Trotsky dislocations to specialists from the FSB. They will deal with them professionally.
          IMHO.
          1. 0
            17 June 2018 13: 37
            Well, VGK is already working on the authority, a couple more of such innovations - and the plus can turn into a minus, from love to hate, one step, as you know.
            And after Burkhalter’s visit, I have serious doubts about the leadership’s ability to take decisive actions, and how we successfully “do not succumb to provocations” only strengthens them.
            1. +2
              17 June 2018 23: 05
              Quote: kakvastam
              And after Burkhalter’s visit, I have serious doubts about the leadership’s ability to take decisive actions

              And more in any way from now on? wink
              1. 0
                18 June 2018 13: 07
                Watch the press conference following the visit, and at the same time remember how rhetoric changed dramatically in late April - early May 2014.
                The mechanism of influence is incomprehensible, which means there is reason to think.
  18. +1
    17 June 2018 13: 19
    What is this provocation?
    It will be necessary to carry out exercises near the borders of Nata, hi poorut.
  19. +1
    17 June 2018 17: 20
    They also say that Norway remembers the sons of the USSR who died on its land during the Second World War, from the hands of the Nazis, protecting the Norwegian lands from adversary. And who is the occupant? soldier
    1. 0
      18 June 2018 02: 19
      Like who? Naturally fought against the liberation army of United Europe. And what do you not know about modern trends?
  20. +1
    17 June 2018 20: 14
    NATO's provocation at Russia's borders

    Damn, a regular situation that will lead to nothing. In Soviet times, this was all the time. And now, each "bunch" is examined under the microscope of the media.
  21. 0
    18 June 2018 02: 17
    “There is no doubt that the Russian view of NATO is absolutely paranoid now, and that the Russians will interpret this as a provocation”

    Over my long life, I have long and firmly learned the basic rule: It is better to be a living paranoid than a dead nonsense. Therefore, these teachings cannot be interpreted otherwise than as a provocation.