Missing Superjet 100 found

The missing Russian airliner Sukhoi Superjet 100 was found in Indonesia. On the state of the aircraft and the fate of the passengers is not reported. The aircraft was found by the helicopters of the Indonesian Air Force, who resumed the search operation at dawn on Thursday, they report "NEWS".

According to ITAR-TASS, the anti-crisis headquarters in Jakarta reported that at present the helicopter search team is trying
determine the state of the found aircraft. The estimated location of the fall of the airliner is located on the slope of Mount Salak at an altitude of 1,5 thousands of meters above sea level. At the moment, another helicopter and a ground brigade of rescuers are heading to the place of the alleged catastrophe of the aircraft.

Dmitry Solodov, press officer of the Russian embassy in Indonesia, said that he expects the search group to provide information on the status of the found Sukhoi Superjet 100 aircraft. “In 9.00 local time (6.00 in Moscow) near the Salak mountain at an altitude of 1,5 thousands of meters the plane, according to the crisis headquarters, was found by one of the search helicopters,” he confirmed. “The second helicopter has now flown to the site to clear the liner. operational information. "

On the eve of the Russian aircraft Sukhoi Superjet 100 disappeared from radar screens during a demonstration flight. According to updated data, there were 48 people on board, including eight 8 Russians. The aircraft made the 9 in May the second demonstration flight as part of the flight program in Indonesia. The first demonstration flight went smoothly. Communication with the aircraft was interrupted after 20 minutes after the start of the flight.

Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev instructed the Ministry of Industry, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and the United Aircraft Building Corporation to organize work on the investigation of the incident with the Sukhoi Superjet 100 aircraft in Indonesia.

Sukhoi Superjet 100 is a regional 100-seat aircraft designed and manufactured by Sukhoi Civil Aircraft with the participation of Alenia Aermacchi. Flight range for the basic version of the liner 3048 kilometers, for the version with an increased range - 4578 kilometers.

Comments

[alatau_09]

God grant that they were alive ...

[Aleksey67]

Yesterday Sergey (a veteran of Air Force) threw information about the accident on a personal note, was shocked, in general the Superjet project, some kind of "muddy" type like the Yankees with the F-35 "pelevo". So much dough in the "toilet" to flush and sell to no one can, and then an accident with victims

[VAF]

Quote: Aleksey67

on a personal threw info about the accident,

Already a disaster, as I expected!

At 04.30 local search helicopter left for searches

[Krilion]

Quote: alatau_09

God grant that they were alive ...

the plane climbed into the almost vertical slope of the mountain .. after which all that was left of it crashed down ... no one could survive ... I would like to make a mistake ...

[Joker]

Could survive, but whether they survive until help arrives in time in the USA there was a similar accident, so they spent 2 days using it, and then examined the crash site, they found the bodies of passengers who managed to survive and crawled down the slope, about 20 people survived, but they did not wait for help It’s sad when people die because of the cut, such freaks need to be shot right away

[VAF]

Quote: Joker

Could survive, but whether they survive until help arrives in time

No, they couldn’t, ...... the speed was 630, the vertical slope was almost, on collision there was an explosion, the body was made of carbon fiber, a solid "crumb" of debris.

I am writing, already ..........., but this is not the first time in my life .....

[VAF]

Quote: Krilion

. I would like to make a mistake ...

I was not mistaken, unfortunately!

Place of fall detected. Almost vertical slope. Coordinates 06.42.61.3S 106.44.41.2E at an altitude of 5200 feet.
Photo from a search engine helicopter.

[VAF]

Quote: alatau_09

God grant that they were alive ...

I slept a little and ...... in short, I post full real information!

Here God did not help anyone .......!

Bright memory to all! I knew Sasha Yablontseva personally, I knew Sasha Kochetkov!

Rest in peace, flew like gods and ... went to heaven!

[Aleksey67]

Quote: veteran.air force

and ...... in short, I post full real information!

Sergei, if possible, "light up" this case, there are devices that would have prevented the accident. How could this happen? The pilots had to study the route, from your experience how this could happen ... I would like to hear the commentary of the pilot, not the "conspiratorial"

[PLO]

say there was no route (

[VAF]

Quote: olp

say there was no route (

Read the comments above for Alexei

[VAF]

Quote: Aleksey67

Sergey, if possible, "light up" this case

Lyosha, I will try of course, but .... a little bit still not in that state. on sotochku "skip" ...., and in short ...

1. There are practically no routes for window dressing; they indicate the area with reference points and the boundaries of the flight zone.

2. Lotsii, of course, are studying, but .......

3. What was the reason for the request for reduction .... there may be a failure of the engine, and then ....

4. In this area, there is a very large seasonal migration of birds, they could fly around the mountain for 10000 feet (a beautiful turn) and then descend into the valley between the mountains to go lower and more beautiful ... and if they "grabbed" the birds in both motors (then this is immediately ..... the final), and even in one, then an instant surge, having lost the height and speed. the second to the maximum and to the output and ..... just stupidly did not have enough height to jump over the top of the slope (to photo from the crash site, it is characteristic to see).

This is one of the deviations, and then we'll see what they say.

[Aleksey67]

Quote: veteran.air force

, but .... a little bit still not in that state. on sotochku "I miss

The same story Drugan, edrit them
Serega, thanks for the comment, really understood

[VAF]

Quote: Aleksey67

Serega, thanks for the comment, really understood

M. Poghosyan arrived, now at the headquarters at a briefing .....

[snek]

veteran.air force
Thanks for the information and, it seems, professional analysis.

[VAF]

Quote: snek

thanks for the info

At the airport "sea" of ambulances ....

[nokki]

Something mystical is happening with this Superjet ... Or maybe the answer is simpler: the car, as they say, "did not catch up".

[Hysnik-Tsuzoy]

The catastrophe is really strange: one of the best pilots, a test pilot, flew the plane, the plane was new, in perfect condition. All this leads to strange thoughts about the machinations of competitors. In business and politics, like it or not, meanness and dirt are enough, but people are sorry.

[VAF]

Quote: Hysnik-Tsuzoy

one of the best pilots, a test pilot, flew the plane,

And not just a test pilot, but also a cosmonaut pilot - Sasha was a member of the group of pilots on Buran (as we jokingly called them "Wolf pack", by the name of the group commander).

But the preparation for the departure, why is this such, but ......? Our where .... ???

[VAF]

Quote: nokki

Something mystical is happening with this Superjet ..

Not mystical ... remember whose estate is Indonesia?

That's right ... Amerovskaya! Forgot the case of Kharchevsky and Kurbasov in the States when they got the engines ???

And Amer in Indonesia, as at home

[Sphere]

I, too, have the same opinion .......

[Igorboss16]

maybe someone was interested that he did not sit at the airport
the crew is sorry, the best leave

[VAF]

Quote: Igorboss16

maybe someone was interested that he did not sit at the airport

But for some reason everyone has returned .... ??? They refer to the weather, but from the pictures of the crash site the weather in this area is more than, much less for a helicopter .... ???

In general, so far some questions and by the way, in all sorties they promised to take ours and .... never took a single one .. ???

[Igorboss16]

there can be many reasons, and competitors and weather and malfunction, only people do not return more
we are waiting for the results of the investigation, although everything was rolled up in chips at such speeds, and a crushing blow was dealt to the prestige of this liner

[VAF]

Quote: Scope

I, too, have the same opinion .......

Look, at first they were going to throw paratroopers ... and lower the landing on the ropes .....

[Yarbay]

I hope all passengers and crew are alive and well !!

[snek]

Unfortunately, this is unlikely. At least the words "wreckage found" are not very encouraging. Let's hope that at least someone survived.
For the entire Superjet program, this will be a severe blow - judging by the news, the flight was "advertising" for the Asian markets and there were journalists and airline representatives on board. After this, the car will have to restore its reputation for a long time.

[VAF]

Quote: snek

Unfortunately, this is unlikely

Black, blackest, most terrible .... list .... sheet 2 .... Here are all ours ....

[VAF]

Quote: Yarbay

I hope all passengers and crew are alive and well !!

No ...... here is the list ....... sheet 1.

[snek]

Quote: veteran.air force

Black, blackest, worst ... list ....

Condolences to relatives. A terrible tragedy - there is nothing more to say.

[Kars]

Quote: snek

Condolences to relatives. A terrible tragedy - nothing more to say

I won’t comment on anything, I don’t understand this. Therefore, I just join in condolences.

[VAF]

Quote: Kars

Therefore, I just join in condolences.

Thanks, Andryukha!

Last ...., b ... q, no words .... how to say goodbye .....

[VAF]

Quote: Yarbay

I hope all passengers

According to extreme data, 3 Indonesian citizens who did not get on board have already gone ... 97004

And one of the last photos of Sasha Yablontsev .........

[VAF]

Quote: Yarbay

I hope

Everyone is waiting for tomorrow ..... It's already night in Jakarta ....

[crossbow]

As always happens in Russia, everyone will write off the human factor, and in this case they will especially rely on this to avoid reputational losses for the Superjet. The chronic radio silence of the pilots in the moments preceding the accident is alarming for a long time (both in this and in others cases), it seems that the pilots were strictly forbidden to broadcast something in case of emergency on board, even if the plane is not always in touch, but then there is the opportunity to record through black boxes.

[snek]

There are many strange things. And the emergency beacon did not work (as I understand it, because of this, at first they pushed the version with the capture by terrorists). What everyone will do to preserve the reputation of the aircraft (attributed to the human factor or the weather) is understandable, but anyway, the blow to the reputation is at least a serious, if not fatal.

[Nick]

Quote: snek

What everyone will do to preserve the reputation of the aircraft (attributed to the human factor or the weather) is understandable, but still the blow to the reputation is at least a serious, if not fatal

For some reason, I remembered another accident with our Tu-144 in Le Bourget. Then it was provoked by competitors who created an analogue to our 144. As a result of that accident, Our project was closed, and the European Concord soon flew.

[snek]

Quote: Nick

As a result of that accident, Our project was closed, and the European Concord soon flew.

TA catastrophe occurred in the 73rd, the operation of the Tu-144 ended in 78th due to no profitability (there were few flights there). Plus in the 78th there was another disaster (during a test flight). So the analogy is not visible.

[VAF]

Quote: Nick

soon flew.

And this is the last take-off ..........

[VAF]

Quote: snek

There are many strange things.

And very .... everywhere (in Astana, Karachi, M'yama) before that, the flight 97005 flew !!!

Why did 97004 go here ????

It is clear that there is always a spare, but what is the reason for the replacement ..... ????

Here he is still on the taxi .....

[VAF]

Quote: snek

And the emergency beacon didn't work

Look carefully, which lighthouse ???? From the plane there was only dust ....

[Foamas]

Quote: veteran.air force

what lighthouse ???? .... there was only dust left ....

What is a lighthouse made of? From crystal?
Why did the cell phones of some passengers work after the disaster? (unfortunately, no response from subscribers), and a special device designed to drop from 12 km - suddenly turned to dust ???

[VAF]

Quote: FoMaS

What is a lighthouse made of? From crystal?

And without the rise ... it is impossible ??? Or is he very smart, what "..fuck" ???

Naturally, not made of crystal, but if you are aware of, or at least have heard, the COSPAS-SARSAT emergency beacons are very delicate and sensitive devices and the slightest "movements" are enough and they can both give a false call (signal) or stupidly not work ...

And the reasons are the location, damage to the antenna, transmitter, breakage of the antenna cable, incorrect check before departure, cable breakage between the antenna and the transmitter and other. Other, other ....

And please, without rudeness?

[VAF]

Quote: crossbow

As always happens in Russia, everyone will write off the human factor

Very likely ..... see

Between the 3rd and the last 0 point (point of incidence), the distance is 1400 meters, only 8 seconds of flight, the elevation is 400 meters ...., i.e. 1500 and 1900 (I round, because there is no strength to write in detail)

And Sasha requested a decline of 6000 feet (1828 meters) ??????

Why, what extraordinary happened .... ??? A lot of incomprehensible .... 1

[snek]

Quote: veteran.air force

Why, what extraordinary happened .... ??? A lot of incomprehensible .... 1

Well, from what you can hear, the weather there was disgusting, although it is clear that for a modern aircraft this is not such a terrible problem (you can "dodge" in the worst case). While it remains to wait for the decryption of black boxes.

[VAF]

Quote: snek

the weather was disgusting there,

This is to say the least .... read the rest above in the comments for Alexei ....

[VAF]

Quote: crossbow

. Pilots and, moreover, for a long time chronic radio silence of pilots.

I already wrote about this above, they were only 8 (!!!) seconds from point 3 to 0 ... the last point, during this time we can say "... damn, damn, bl..t and everything in this similarity .... "

[Goga]

And who will buy it now? What kind of "human factor" is there - the best pilots are probably working at the demonstration - either Sukhoi has not learned how to produce civilian products, or competitors "tried".
I feel sorry for people, and the scandal is not small - aboard citizens of five countries ...

[VAF]

Quote: Gogh

probably the best pilots work at the demonstration

Absolutely for sure .... bright memory to them !!!

1. Alexander Yablontsev, chief pilot

2. Alexander Kochetkov, co-pilot

3. Oleg Shvetsov, navigator

4. Alexey Kirkin, flight engineer

More crew biography >>

5. Denis Rakhimov, Leading Flight Test Engineer

6. Nikolai Martyshenko, deputy head of the flight test center of the GSS complex

7. Evgeny Grebenshchikov, Sales Director, GSS

8. Kristina Kurzhukova, contract manager

[Aleksey67]

Quote: veteran.air force

Absolutely for sure .... bright memory to them !!!

Sergey, thank you tremendously for the photos and names.

[VAF]

Quote: Aleksey67

and names.

Clarifications came, there were no 2 Indonesians on board on board ???

And ambulance helicopters came and "rushed" to the crash site !!!

[itr]

It is necessary to close the project; it does not go from the very beginning
and give back to those who have always been involved in TU Yak IL and Sukhoi has enough volumes without it
But before that, it’s natural to check

[VAF]

Quote: itr

It is necessary to close the project; it does not go from the very beginning

These girls from Skye, that's all ........., 10 of them .....

[aksakal]

Disgusting news !!!!! Worse than ever!!!!
It was during the advertising trip that this plane had to fall !!! After such "luck", Poghosyan can wind up the Superjet program, if it is not a diversion.

And people feel sorry! My condolences to their families!
I'm sad

[Krilion]

Quote: aksakal

It was during the advertising trip that this plane had to fall !!! After such "luck", Poghosyan can wind up the Superjet program, if it is not a diversion.

Apparently this is not a diversion .. the pilot stupidly cut into the side of the mountain in conditions of zero visibility ... the usual Russian gouging: one allowed flying in improper weather conditions, and the second decided to demonstrate aerobatics with his eyes closed ...

[VAF]

Quote: aksakal

It was on an advertising trip that this plane had to fall !!!

Compare how they guarded in front of Jakarta in Karachi and see what access and to whom was in Jakarta (I posted the photo above!)

[TRex]

It seems to hit a mountain ... In such cases, there are no living ones. Sorry for the people.

And maybe the "partners" somehow "helped" .. A lot of incomprehensible and strange.

[snek]

Joint project with Boeing and more than a dozen foreign companies. The version with "help" here looks, at least, very tense.

[VAF]

Quote: TRex

A lot of incomprehensible and strange.

And a lot ???? Show motors before departure ??? And where are our .... ????

Does anyone at all watch and control this or everything is "completely relaxed" ?????

[viruskvartirus]

Well, what a disgusting thing is this .... God forbid that people survive ... And again the lighthouse didn’t work like a mystic ... It’s a serious blow to the reputation ... but EASA issued a certificate for it, and this is not garbage, so nobody closes the project ...

[Svistoplyaskov]

Quote: viruskvartirus

.but EASA issued a certificate for it, and this is not garbage, so no one will close the project ...

Of course, the project will not be closed - in it all our hope for the revival of the passenger aircraft industry and money was invested in it unmeasured.
But here we can lose potential customers!
Until the last I will hope that all people survived!

[Zerstorer]

RRJ / SSJ was originally created for export (because it needs to be remade for local airfields), in short, it is not a regional plane for Russia at all. It is pointless to close the project - a product that can be sold is almost ready.

Ps Condolences to the families of the deceased.

[VAF]

Quote: Whistling

Prekt certainly will not close

Quote: Whistling

But here we can lose potential customers!

Now everything is possible, although ..... all over the world it happens with 737 and 310-320 buses, so almost regularly (pah, pah, so as not to jinx it)

Sukhoi Superjet-100 (SSJ-100) is the main Russian project for the production of regional aircraft, which is carried out by CJSC Sukhoi Civil Aircraft, formed in 2000.

The liner made its first commercial flight on April 21, 2011.

On December 25, 2011, the SSJ-95 aircraft (Sukhoi SuperJet 100 modifications) of Aeroflot airline could not take off from Minsk due to a problem with the chassis. It was not possible to eliminate the problem on the spot; as a result, it was decided to return the plane to Moscow without passengers.

On March 16, 2012, a similar plane, which was heading to Astrakhan, was forced to return to Moscow due to problems with the chassis. Aeroflot Flight 709 carried 65 passengers. Immediately after takeoff, the crew commander reported that the front landing gear flap did not close and decided to return to the airport of departure.

On May 6, 2012, a Sukhoi SuperJet-100 aircraft, while landing at the Kazan airport, temporarily rolled out of the runway and returned to it, after which the passengers were disembarked.

This photo is still in Ufa at the "customs"

[VAF]

Quote: viruskvartirus

EASA issued a certificate for it, but this is not garbage

Wow .... but it still had to be validated, and for this they flew in principle ....

Here it is characteristic to see that it is 97005 !!! ??? (this is to the previous comment why went 97004 ???)

[Vadivak]

Just infa without emotions and assumptions

The SSJ-100 was created by a structure that had not built a single aircraft before. Neither civilian nor military. And the parent structure of the SCAC, the Sukhoi holding, created only military vehicles.

Among the most serious risks of the SSJ-100 program is such a large-scale participation of foreign companies in it. Let's start with the most famous - Boeing and Alenia. Thus, the American company was generally at the origin of this whole story: it was from the agreement on long-term cooperation between it and Rosaviakosmos, signed on April 13, 2001, that the idea of ​​a "breakthrough" regional liner began to develop. All these years Boeing acted as a consultant, that is, gave advice on how to organize work on the Superjet, while not investing a dime of its own money into the program. That is, in the event of the frenzied success of the Boeing aircraft, it cannot lay claim to much, but in the event of the crash of the program, it will not lose anything at all.

2008 year.

[snek]

Well, as you would expect, the version with the sabotage of vile Americans is gradually becoming dominant in the comments. Soon she will become the main one, and anyone who does not agree with her will turn into a Western sneak ... well, well, that's life.

[Aleksey67]

Quote: snek

as expected, the sabotage version of the vile Americans is gradually becoming dominant in the comments

I read all the comments did not find a single mention of amers Why did you write this? Justify

[snek]

Quote: Aleksey67

I read all the comments, I did not find a single mention of amers Why did you write this? Justify

Firstly,

Quote: Vadivak

All these years, Boeing acted as a consultant, that is, gave advice on how to organize work on the Superjet, while not investing a dime of its own money into the program. That is, in the event of the frenzied success of the Boeing aircraft, it cannot lay claim to much, but in the event of the crash of the program, it will not lose anything at all.

Such a subtle hint of "no emotion or suggestions"

Quote: TRex

And maybe the "partners" somehow "helped" .. A lot of incomprehensible and strange.

"partners" (this is exactly how it is in quotation marks and with irony, it is customary to call Americans here)

Quote: Nick

For some reason, I remembered another accident with our Tu-144 in Le Bourget. Then it was provoked by competitors who created an analogue to our 144. As a result of that accident, Our project was closed, and the European Concord soon flew.

Well, here, of course, the French are mentioned, but still the sworn west

[Aleksey67]

Quote: snek

Such a subtle hint of "no emotion or suggestions"

I asked for facts, not "subtle hints"

[snek]

And no one has the facts yet, but many have the feeling that here, for any reason, it was not without plot and sabotage.

[Aleksey67]

Quote: snek

And no one has the facts yet, but many have the feeling that here, according to anyone, there was no conspiracy and sabotage

It's just that we all see stories from the past, but what are you inflating with hysteria? Russia has not blamed anyone. Run ahead of the engine?

[snek]

Quote: Aleksey67

Why are you fanning hysteria?

Please show signs of hysteria in my comments.

Quote: Aleksey67

Run ahead of the engine?

Just making observations. Agree or not with these observations is not my business.

[Aleksey67]

Quote: snek

Please show signs of hysteria in my comments.

For this phrase

as expected, the sabotage version of the vile Americans is gradually becoming dominant in the comments. Soon she will become the main one, and anyone who disagrees with her will turn into a Western sneak ... well then, this is life

Note, unreasonable, you do not care for me (this is neither a friend nor an enemy)

[snek]

Quote: Aleksey67

For this phrase

This is my opinion, I do not see anything hysterical in it

Quote: Aleksey67

you do not care for me (this is not a friend and not an enemy)

sincerely mutually

[Aleksey67]

Quote: snek

sincerely mutually

I agree, we scatter like ships in the sea

[VAF]

Quote: snek

but many have a feeling

Of course, you need to understand all this, but all versions must be worked out ....

But look at this photo ......

Well, I can’t understand, at least cut what it is, and ????

The plane is for the first time in Jakarta, none of the locals have seen it before, so what is the question ....... they "climb all over the cracks and holes" ????

Or they were taught in one night how to "work" on a completely unfamiliar plane ?????

[snek]

Quote: veteran.air force

Well, I can’t understand, at least cut what it is, and ????

My profane opinion - they wash the bottom of the plane by hand ... At least that's how it looks. Maybe this is before the "photo session" for the media ...

[VAF]

Quote: snek

My profane opinion is that they wash the bottom of the plane manually ..

Why profane ??? What can be seen is visible, only they wash themselves (!) And wash the plane, but if you "want" (this word means all aspects) you can "wash" so that ....

Yes, the extreme paratroopers did not manage to descend, who climb a vertical wall, there is an angle of about 80 degrees, you still need to "pass" 350-500 meters, it will be darkening there tomorrow, so that according to official reports from officials, including General Prakos - there was no one at the crash site yet !!!

[speedy]

A plane crashed into a mountain during daylight ... this could only happen in cloudy conditions. apparently ignorance of local conditions affected - the wrong level and route, and apparently the radar was not turned on ... I feel sorry for the pilots and passengers ... But I think the plane is good.

[VAF]

Quote: short-term

this could happen only in cloudy conditions

Almost right here

Quote: short-term

Incorrect train and route

Not here because 10 feet flight level initially selected to ensure safe flight

Quote: short-term

apparently the radar was not turned on

It is practically impossible, theoretically impossible to do, because. the weather ...., and everything always turns on in the PMP, but some kind of refusal could be fully present (I wrote about this all above on the tape)!

In the photo: The last break .........

[snek]

veteran.air force
Tell me, Sergey, how likely, in your opinion, is the option that, given the fact that it was essentially an advertising flight (journalists on board), the decision was made that, despite the bad weather, they wouldn’t return and would not try to get around, but to go at risk in order to impress the public? I mean, such a decision could not be made by pilots (and maybe contrary to their opinion) by company representatives.

[VAF]

Quote: snek

to impress the audience? I mean, such a decision could not be made by pilots

Version as an option, but .....

Too "small" (in the good) sense of the word was (unfortunately) at the representative of the GSK, + besides, only the commander makes a decision in the air, but the request to fulfill ... is quite real!

On local TV, they show a computer model of the disaster, so it clearly shows that the Sukhoi-Superjet-100 comes out from the side of Bogor, lowers into a hollow, begins to perform a left coordinated bend (360-degree U-turn) around the mountain and practically to complete a U-turn (bend ) by 180g suddenly sharply under 90g to the left, with a decrease "sticks" up the hill!

So we will wait ... but in such a situation, or rather in such conditions where a catastrophe occurred, it will be very difficult to find the "black" boxes!

Here is a video of this model, already posted on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIYmjw8pANs&feature=player_embedded

[snek]

Quote: veteran.air force

So we will wait ... but in such a situation, or rather in such conditions where a catastrophe occurred, it will be very difficult to find the "black" boxes!

The terrain, judging by the photo, is really hell for search engines (mountains and the jungle - you can’t imagine worse). But here, after all, is a special case - the whole fate of the project may depend on the results of deciphering the information of the CE, so you need to find it.

[VAF]

Quote: snek

really hell for search engines (mountains and jungle - you can’t imagine worse).

Here, hell agrees with you on everything (search engines will sleep on ropes until tomorrow morning) and you need to find the edge, but ....

A lot of the strange things happen, the paratroopers were not thrown away, but planned, and it would be possible to hang .....

Ie a lot of strange things ....

[Antipin]

The most important thing is that there would be few victims

[Tiberium]

It’s better not to have them at all.

[VAF]

Quote: Tiberium

It’s better not to have them at all.

It's true....

Local TV reports that in the region of this volcano Salak over the past 10 years there have been 7 (!) Disasters .....

[cord]

So that is all. Citizens of five countries on board, experienced pilots, an advertising company not to the extent of a prominent pepelats ... They started for health, and ended, as always, for peace.

[KZ]

I'm shocked !!!
Since yesterday, I’ve been waiting for news, hoping it will cost!
Condolences to relatives.

[Tirpitz]

Is there really no equipment on such a super-duper plane that determines the coordinates of the plane in space ?. There must be an electronic map of the area indicating the heights of the mountains. some kind. There that the electronics from the AN-24 is. it’s idiocy to crash into a mountain on the latest airplane, and even during a demonstration. Was it really impossible to prepare? In the foreign market, the prospects for this aircraft are now very ghostly. And if they make the pilots guilty then the whole planet will think that ours cannot even collect pilots for the same crew across Russia.

[VAF]

Quote: Tirpitz

Really on such a super-duper plane

THIS PLANE IS ALL ENOUGH, according to ICAO standards: both GPS and TCAS and EGPWS and transponders and encoders and rangefinders, futometers. PB of small and extremely small heights, etc. etc.

Therefore, the cause of the disaster is completely different ......

And blame the pilots here ....., well, at least prematurely !!!

[Senzey]

While there is very little information to draw conclusions, the aircraft showed good characteristics during testing, there is something else here, not technical problems. The deceased condolences. I wish there were as many survivors as possible.

[Igor]

He flew uphill, and there are already photographs from the scene of the incident, judging by them, let all those who were aboard land will rest in peace.

Here is a photo: http://ria.ru/

[laurbalaur]

Here is the latest photo report on the Superjet advertising tour: http://vasi.net/community/jeto_interesno/2012/05/10/indonezijjskie_bortprovodnic
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Sorry guys! I hope the project is not buried!

[VAF]

Quote: laurbalaur

I hope the project is not buried!

Yes, Mikhail Aslanovich will not be envied now ...

[USNik]

According to Ukrainian radio, there were no survivors. My condolences to relatives. Stupid accident of the latest aircraft. We are waiting for the conclusion of experts and decryption of boxes.

[ksv2011]

the bad news is sorry for everyone!

[Aleksey67]

From the news

The paratroopers could not go down to the crash site of the Superjet-100

10 May 2012, 11: 58

The Indonesian military was never able to get down from the helicopter to the site of the accident of the Russian Sukhoi Superjet-100 (SSJ-100) airliner, reports Russian Sergei Dolya, accompanying the Sukhoi Civil Aircraft delegation and located in the operational headquarters of the search operation.
“The situation center is a complete mess. Nobody knows anything. Everyone gives conflicting information, ”Share said on Twitter.
"The paratroopers could not go down to the scene of the disaster, and the ground groups will reach no earlier than 3 hours later."
The blogger added that "the paratroopers could not descend to the crash site, and the ground groups will reach no earlier than 3 hours, so there is still no one at the crash site."

Later, the president of Sukhoi Civil Aircraft CJSC (GSS), Vladimir Prisyazhnyuk, confirmed to Interfax that the search and rescue services have not yet reached the crash site. According to him, at 12.00 Moscow time, search and rescue teams discovered a plane at an altitude of 1700 meters in the region of Mount Salak. “The plane was badly damaged, the brigades could not get close,” he said.

Prisyajnyuk also added that it is not yet clear how much the plane was destroyed. At the same time, the president of GSS added that at 15 o’clock Moscow time the Indonesian air authorities will hold a working meeting with representatives of the Russian group.


Recall, previously, Dolya reported that six Indonesian paratroopers descended from a helicopter to the scene of the accident of the Russian airliner. Arriving foot group collects the remains of tel.
As VZGLYAD newspaper reported, on Wednesday the Superjet-100 aircraft, which made a demonstration flight in Jakarta, disappeared from the radar screens. On Thursday morning, the search team found wreckage. Signs that someone survived as a result of the crash of the Russian Sukhoi Superjet-100 (SSJ-100) airliner in Indonesia has not yet been detected.

Russian Sergei Dolya now on Twitter reports the details of the search operation, uploads photos of pilots and cabin crew. In particular, he showed the plane crash site.

In the photo that Share posted on his Twitter, it can be seen that the plane did not have only a few tens of meters to fly Mount Salak, and it crashed into it not at the highest point.

According to the blogger, the plane moved at an altitude of 1674 meters. After 400 meters at an altitude of 1903 meters, he sharply turned left, crashed into a mountain and fell at an altitude of 1817 meters.

According to various sources, from 45 to 50 people were on board the crashed plane: eight citizens of Russia, two Italians, a Frenchman, an American, and 38 Indonesians. Earlier it was reported that two Indonesians did not fly.

Also, the Indonesian aviation authorities provided reporters with a photograph of the crashed plane. Large fragments in the photograph from the crash site of the liner in the region of Mount Salak are not visible.

The Superjet-100, which disappeared from the radar screens after a demonstration flight in Jakarta, shortly before the loss of communication, requested permission to decrease, a representative of the Indonesian airspace control service said.

According to him, the plane requested a decrease from a height of 10 thousand feet to 6 thousand, received permission and began to turn right and go down. In that place is a mountain with a height of 6 feet.

[VAF]

Quote: Aleksey67

The paratroopers could not go down to the crash site of the Superjet-100

Lesha. Have already descended, 6 people, and the ground "reached" even earlier.

We have now determined the possible landing places for helicopters and will ..... the word does not turn in the language ..... in short it’s clear why .....

[Aleksey67]

Quote: veteran.air force

in short it’s clear why .....

Well yes

[almost demobil]

Yes, trouble, in the media, information first slipped that theft was possible. I was hoping so ...

[VAF]

Quote: almost demobilized

The media first slipped information

Our media, as they say, is only an appearance of independence (let them not be offended)!

Hijacking, that would be the best thing in such a situation ... (I mean, than a disaster with passengers, or rather with specialists and potential buyers and after the PRESENTATION ....) in general, a full "paragraph" ....!

[Oleg14774]

Enough of the hackneyed topic about cuts, trolls, you are citizens of the country, because you and your grandfathers fought for you and gave their lives. There is nothing mystical. Great plane, great company, just remember Concord, there was a sabotage, (even thin. The film was), people died. Super Jet is a real competitor to Boeing and Airbus. How much these two companies will lose money, because behind the 100s there should have been other models, and Sukhoi is a well-known brand. We decided to remove the competitor at the start. This is not a problem, it’s enough for the tanker to drive off and add some crap to the fuel. There are many versions, there are experts such that the mosquito of the nose will not grind!
Dry, hold on, you're the best, and not because of the Soviet-Russian, but because the best!

Enough of the hackneyed topic about cuts, trolls, you are citizens of the country, because you and your grandfathers fought for you and gave their lives. There is nothing mystical. Great plane, great company, just remember Concord, there was a sabotage, (even thin. The film was), people died. Super Jet is a real competitor to Boeing and Airbus. How much these two companies will lose money, because behind the 100s there should have been other models, and Sukhoi is a well-known brand. We decided to remove the competitor at the start. This is not a problem, it’s enough for the tanker to drive off and add some crap to the fuel. There are many versions, there are experts such that the mosquito of the nose will not grind!
Dry, hold on, you're the best, and not because of the Soviet-Russian, but because the best!

[patriot_serg]

A few hundred meters remained, but they cannot pass this section yet. The operation is suspended until morning
Once again, the correct coordinates of the fall: 6 ° 42'34.00 "S 106 ° 44'7.00" E
Nobody has been at the scene of the disaster. Photos on the Internet from Pakistan. They did not make statements that everyone died because they did not know
http://twitter.com/#!/dolyasergey
Latest Information from Jakarta Airport Headquarters

[VAF]

Quote: patriot_serg

A few hundred meters left, n

Almost everything is correct, they remain to "spend the night" on the ropes, have passed more than half of the way along the vertical slope.

There is almost darkness, the remaining path is tomorrow

[Cynic]

The earth will rest in peace!
May All be rewarded according to their faith!

[VAF]

Quote: Cynic

The earth will rest in peace!

+!

just watched our TV - almost "everything has already been decided" - the cause of the disaster is the human factor !!!

Those. The "Further Life" of an airplane is always more important than people ?!

How can such statements be made when they have not even reached the scene of a disaster?
Not to mention the decoding of the "black boxes"? Which have not yet been found?

But they "found" a very "convenient" reason not to "drop" the Super-Jet - the pilots are to blame !!! ????

".... The plane was technically sound" ... say "representatives" from the authorities (it is clear who wants to retire, from the bread places?)

And where do you know this from, if there is no objective means of control, and even conversations with the aircraft crew ???

And the fact that the pictures clearly show that the plane first exploded in the air, and then the remnants fell on the side of the mountain. trees and all greenery to the ground is demolished and no traces of the fire can be seen at all (it was raining well at night and everything was washed away), but where is the funnel, at least some, and ???

What could have caused the explosion? it’s understandable the fire, I suppose they caught the birds. the engines decompressed, the fire started (but with surge, it’s not always, most likely not always. if you react in time) and then an explosion ????
But it was only possible on the Su-24s, where there was a fire, right away, parachute and go home on foot!

And here in 8 seconds and so many events should happen ???

It is clear that the Salak volcano is a splendor and all "air tourists" want to contemplate this beauty from the air (7 disasters in 10 years!), So Yablontsev, perhaps, at his request, decided to fly around and show this beauty and how much they are outraged ".. violated flight rules "???

And did any of them look at the flight mission, what would they say already ???

Why didn't Sasha ask for permission from the RP ??? And in such cases, the RP will certainly take an interest in the visual situation and only in the case of visual contact of the pilot with the ground and good visibility, can he be allowed to take the requested echelon, unless of course there is a special case, such as the failure of one engine (I often got up one, there was a report RC ES ATC and ask for 1500-1800, because on one, you borrow everything and "stomp" home on one)

So RP allowed to take 6000 feet - what's the violation ???

So maybe the problem is still in the plane, huh? In the CDS, in engines, in electrics, etc.!

And maybe again kerosene, and if some or someone else's and .....- "press" button and an explosion ??? (I already wrote how they prepared the plane, yes, you saw everything yourself)!

So the sea of ​​questions, but the answers .... but the conclusions are ready, the human factor ?????

So draw your own conclusions, my friends .......

I personally feel disgusted, right up to ........ myself, the very bottom!

In the photo: Super-Jet-100, tail number 97004 a few seconds before takeoff, ...... which will then go down in "history" ........

[Cynic]

What a friend, the media, scavengers. Hyenas of the pen.
Here's what else is going on

On May 9, after reports of the SSJ-100 plane crash, Twitter user 4katrin (Kate Solovyeva) wrote: "Why did the superjet crash ?! Hahaha! Shitty car! It's a pity not Aeroflot, one would be less, or maybe they even sold them back to someone ". This message aroused a storm of indignation from other users, and it was possible to establish from the pages on Facebook and Vkontakte that the author of the message was Ekaterina Solovieva, a flight attendant of Aeroflot.

Source
http://www.rb.ru/article/styuardessu-aeroflota-uvolili-za-shutku-v-twitter-po-po

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