The most annoying and unpleasant: Russia dictates no one

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“Considering the above, I would like to make it clear to the Armenian people that this is your choice. We cannot forcibly save Armenia from the troubles that she herself wants to call upon herself. This is the most offensive, the most unpleasant ... "
M. Leontyev




Something like that, something like that. For some reason, everything turns out in the most clumsy way. In general, the comrades Armenians were told in the face of an extremely harsh and unpleasant truth that caused a lot of resentment. And a furious, violent rejection. And then the old theme about some kind of “friendship” and evil creatures who undermine it ...

Old songs about the main thing. I will say in general: I do not see great prospects for Russia in the post-Soviet space, no matter how offensive it is to someone. And everything goes wrong, and everything goes the curve of the curve itself ... In general, analyzing all these post-Soviet disgraces, you involuntarily come to such sad conclusions. Simply, there is such a simple and understandable indicator for everyone, such as returns in relation to costs (ratio). Here for the post-Soviet space, it will be minimal for us, and we must accept this.



Accordingly, it is necessary to talk about some large projects with a very large reservation. Because almost all residents of the post-Soviet space for some reason do not quite adequately perceive the surrounding reality. And to reach them is almost impossible. That is, people at first very subtly hint, they do not hear. Then they just hint ... Useless. Then they hint at them very thickly ... Full "ignore". Then they are told in plain text. Here there are certain “insults” (allegedly this is an attempt on the sacred friendship of all peoples), but understanding does not come.

Then they are already explicitly stated certain things in a very rough form ... Here begins the uniform hysteria. Sometimes you have to "resort to direct violence," as happened with Ukraine. There you can observe the whole range of relations, from the Big Treaty of Friendship to the almost complete rupture of relations. With Ukraine, at first, they spoke very friendly, then ... In general, 40 shades of diplomacy. But understanding in the heads of Ukrainians did not come ... Then their state was simply kicked out of the Crimea. Yes, carried on kicks.

And here began the same shaped hysteria. From their point of view, everything was good, great, and then, suddenly ... That is, the collapse of the economy, the war and the loss of territories is perceived by them as something external, hostile and in no way dependent on them. And for us something for scho? And even the health kicks in the Crimea and under Debaltseve brought no enlightenment to the Ukrainian heads. Completely hopeless case.

Strictly speaking, this is why the “country of Ukraine” is doomed. Was doomed initially. People inadequately perceive the current reality. Totally inadequate. And these people do not learn anything and do not react to any signals. By the way, the same story repeated in the relations of Ukraine and the West after the Maidan-2. Frank lies, theft, failure to fulfill all and every obligation, and again, lies and theft. In this case, an attempt to substitute and use American and German politicians.

To any retaliatory "sanctions" the reaction is the following: wide open innocent blue eyes: do we have something for sho? That is, just Ukraine has gone through a complete cycle of inadequacy: initially a very, very prosperous, developed and promising state slid into the third world cesspool due to the principle of making political decisions of the “no matter what” type.

If you look at the history of the misadventures of the Republic of Belarus, the picture is very similar: a small, not rich, isolated from the sea state is trying in its foreign and domestic policy to completely ignore the surrounding reality (and we will go to the north!). The history of relations between the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus is almost tracing with the Ukrainian: a very long attempt to reach the Belarusian leadership and explain the most elementary things concerning state-building and international relations.

At the same time, serious money is being invested in Belarus in parallel (as well as in Ukraine) ... Result: we ourselves with a mustache! No reforms and no integration. As a result - a complete collapse. The economy has crumbled, the population is most disloyal to the current government. Remains of resources go to keep power in power. But no one wanted to listen to any explanations for the last twenty years in Minsk. No one heard any warnings.

That is, people pointedly did not understand the hints, and in the direct text the “wild offense” mode was activated. As a result, no government and economic reforms. And today the Belarusian statehood is in the deepest crisis, there are not so many chances to get out of it. And even today, when everything flies to hell, the Belarusian state / society cannot demonstrate any small adaptation to the realities.

That is, the reforms need years and years, today it is already quite late, but no one is trying to “twitch”. The calculation (quite sincerely) is done on the fact that someone (RF, EU, PRC, Arabs) will give “deneh”, and the post-Soviet post-Soviet system will smoke the sky for some time.

Which is characteristic, both Belarusians and Ukrainians have been warning very long and very persistently. For a very long time and very persistently, they were pressured to push for certain rational actions. Useless. Russia's position was not just ignored. No, decisions were made, so to speak, in spite of the Kremlin and across Russia. And, the funny thing is, people in Kiev and Minsk were madly proud of this ...

Recently, Mrs. Burjanadze admitted: in the summer of 2008, Putin called in Tbilisi and warned about the consequences of a possible military conflict (there’s nothing else for him to do). Did someone listen to him? And now the same people are crying: return Ossetia!

As for “nemaydana” in Armenia: the fact that Armenia largely depends on Russia was known for a very long time, then How Russians belong to the Maidan and their participants, it was also not a secret to anyone - neither in the 2004 year, nor in the 2014. Russians are harshly hostile to them. As a result, the whole of Armenia “sings and dances” on the street ... In Russia, this was perceived from the very beginning with a great deal of anxiety, and in the very first days a clearly negative attitude of most commentators was clearly expressed.

Whether you like it or not, this is Russia's public opinion. For the Kremlin, Pashinyan is also not a gift. It was interesting to observe this “in parallel”: the growth of the “holiday” in Armenia and the “gloomy forebodings” in Russia. Well, and now burst: Mr Leontyev said all direct text. All that he thinks (and many more). Well, the scandal arose ...



And sorry, what is wrong? What are you dissatisfied with? In many ways, our problem with relations with the “post-Soviet limitrofs” is that they do not want to hear us. They do not want to listen or hear. The starting position is simple: you owe us. And finally, Russia simply broke through: they began to speak in plain text, even at the government level. Remember the legendary Medvedev "message" to the representatives of the Republic of Belarus, dissatisfied with gas prices? Exit there! I do not like? We do not hold anyone by force! Leont'ev merely repeated this very thought and made it concrete. Do not like the union with Russia? we do not impose.

Why is that? And because it is enough. Approximately the same (more streamlined) said the president himself recently. We lost Ukraine and someone else there? Why did it happen? We have dissolved the Union, after which no one has the right to dictate (as after a divorce). That is, all those who are disgruntled and disagree with the Kremlin’s policy are “divorce and maiden name”. No one is going to chain anyone to the battery by handcuffs. Thanks to everybody, you're free.

Just for a long time, it is time to understand that Russia is not the legendary "country of good suckers with an extra hundred." Stable relationship any require level reciprocity. Attempts to “milk” and “plant” someone endlessly, as a rule, do not end well. Somehow it coincided (apparently completely by accident) that almost simultaneously with Putin's inauguration, Armenia very quickly received a new prime minister with very pro-Western views. Well, he began to appoint new security officials.



All this is just fine, but if in Ukraine the industry depended on Russia, then in Armenia, by a strange coincidence, national security depends on it. Pashinyan was elected on the square very quickly, and this is definitely a plus, only now it will take him several years to “put” himself in Moscow, Baku and Ankara. Why so long? And soon only cats will be born ...
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  1. +8
    3 June 2018 05: 49
    There is Russia, our country with you. There are sovereign states in the former post-Soviet space. They have their own way, their own picture of the world. It’s silly and pointless to wait for gratitude from them, especially for us to have some kind of relationship. Our country will be a profitable partner - the allies will reach us themselves ...
    1. +31
      3 June 2018 06: 02
      Quote: tasha
      There is Russia, our country with you. There are sovereign states in the former post-Soviet space.

      Sovereign? belay Well which ones ???
      Ukraine, of course, Moldova - definitely Yes , Georgia, of course, if not she, then who ...
      And ... the Baltic states are still ...

      Straight "parade of sovereignty", right?

      What world do you live in, where do you get information from? Why are you so cold?
      1. +3
        3 June 2018 06: 14
        Well, then let it be simple - the state.
        The echidna question - if they will be friends with us right to the point of madness - will you consider them sovereign? wink
        1. +12
          3 June 2018 06: 17
          Quote: tasha
          The echidna question - if they will be friends with us right to the point of madness - will you consider them sovereign?

          Consider, or rather considered only with those who pursue a sovereign foreign policy.
          And it is one thing to be friends, and another to lie.
          1. +6
            3 June 2018 06: 19
            And where is the line between being friends and lying?
            1. +13
              3 June 2018 06: 21
              Quote: tasha
              And where is the line between being friends and lying?

              Each "edge", each defines for himself (and the state is no exception), based on self-esteem.
              1. +3
                3 June 2018 06: 55
                Totally agree with you.
              2. 0
                10 June 2018 18: 44
                Quote: Separ DNR
                This "face", each defines for himself

                Well, it turns out that Ukraine also chose this line, which is very low and easily accessible. So it turns out that according to your methodology, all states are sovereign, which means that the meaning of the phrase "sovereign state" is lost ...
                And since society uses this term, that means there is a certain parameter that distinguishes a truly sovereign state from all others.
                In my opinion, a sovereign state is a state that maximizes its benefits in the unlimited-long, super-long, long, medium and short term (sorted in descending order of importance-priority).
                Ukraine is not a sovereign state since its actions harm its benefits in the unlimited long term, in the economic and military development plan of this region of the planet.
            2. 0
              6 June 2018 08: 33
              Observe the relations between the EU and the USA and you will see this line.
          2. +2
            3 June 2018 06: 48
            And you forgive a lot of "sovereign" states in your name? One? Two? More?
      2. +2
        3 June 2018 06: 51
        by the way, regarding the information ....
        I haven’t seen any comments on the topic of modern Karabakh .... but how did they perceive all these Armenian events? ... they maidan the same, looking at the Yerevan residents
        1. +2
          3 June 2018 06: 55
          Quote: DanSabaka
          I haven’t seen any comments on the topic of modern Karabakh .... but how did they perceive all these Armenian events? ... they maidan the same, looking at the Yerevan residents

          I don’t have information, but I’m also interested in it: How is it in Karabakh?
          I can only assume that the Armenian Maidan was perceived there with caution ...
          The situation is so precarious, and there is still such uncertainty.
        2. +2
          3 June 2018 12: 03
          Quote: DanSabaka
          by the way, regarding the information ....
          I haven’t seen any comments on the topic of modern Karabakh .... but how did they perceive all these Armenian events? ... they maidan the same, looking at the Yerevan residents

          Why guess? Draw parallels with the Yeltsin revolution, as it was perceived in Cuba, in Yugoslavia and in other countries. Will the Armenians have a different way? Yes, never ........... merge them too, only find a point where to lean
      3. +2
        4 June 2018 00: 11
        Quote: Separ DNR
        Sovereign? belay What are these ???
        Ukraine, of course, Moldova - definitely yes, Georgia, of course, if not she, then who ...
        And ... the Baltic states are still ...
        Straight "parade of sovereignty", right?
        What world do you live in, where do you get information from? Why are you so cold?

        And if not emotionally? But seriously? For these states, sovereignty from Russia is important first.
        I want to adjust the author to the account of Belarus. Unfortunately, only the Lukashenko regime, with its complete disregard for realities, is the guarantor of allied relations. Indeed, the Belarusian industry from Soviet times focused on raw materials and the market outside the republic. Keeping production for a purely one external buyer, and besides for his own raw materials, he delayed the reforms, he delayed the shutter. On the other hand, all of his mega-projects were unsuccessful and it is hard to imagine what would happen if he took on the economy. The only thing he copes with is the retention of power.
        1. +3
          4 June 2018 06: 27
          Without the Old Man, you will start the same whistle as in Ukraine, and even the owners of the Fed will certainly add gasoline to the fire, this is not the oligarchy of the Russian Federation, which can only express eternal concerns.
      4. +1
        4 June 2018 14: 30
        Quote: Separ DNR
        Sovereign? belay What are these ???

        There are no sovereigns of Russia in this world. it is clear to everyone here ...
        But can other states themselves choose how and under whom they should be, or should they receive instructions from Russia? You tell me about sovereignty when the price of gas in our country is higher than in the USA, and s / n is lower at times. Tell us how a sovereign state of its sovereign citizens bends and protects sovereign oligarchs.
        And in terms of living, are not sovereign Balts inferior to Russia? Do people earn more and live better in Uryupinsk?
    2. +16
      3 June 2018 06: 11
      Quote: tasha
      It’s silly and pointless to wait for gratitude from them, especially for us to have some kind of relationship.

      Not smart people are full everywhere. Good people remember good; evil people remember only negative. The fact that Russia is to blame for such sentiments in the former republics. Too often, we put our own problems into the background and bring strangers into the discussion, having neither the right nor the time. Strictness and decency in relations is mandatory not only between people.
      Some feel a sense of duty. They were given more than their own bestowal, they grew up "planting", thinking that they would be fed from the spoon forever ... request The spoon is broken ...
      1. +4
        3 June 2018 06: 17
        Some feel a sense of duty. They were given more than their own bestowal, they grew up "planting", thinking that they would be fed from the spoon forever ... request The spoon broke ...

        Well, you know how to express a thought, concisely and clearly. I will re-read your comments - to study. Without sarcasm. winked

        I’ll supplement it only from myself. Others feel gnawing that someone owes them something for something ....
    3. +19
      3 June 2018 09: 26
      In 1915, the Russians pulled out the remnants of Armenia from total genocide, and now they are again climbing there. Is 100 years enough for them to remember? Now, if they do not restrain Karabakh, Russia will withdraw its group from Gyumri, and then Azerbaijan and Turkey will quietly divide among themselves. That's the whole thing.winked
      1. VB
        +7
        3 June 2018 11: 35
        There and the road. All these so-called "independent states", which appeared during the treachery of Yeltsin, supported by Putin, should be only the provinces of RUSSIA and nothing else. And those who are against the expense.
        1. +2
          3 June 2018 15: 47
          Quote: VB
          All these so-called "independent states", which appeared during the treachery of Yeltsin, supported by Putin, should be only the provinces of RUSSIA and nothing else. And those who are against the expense.

          Come and get it...
          1. +2
            4 June 2018 00: 36
            Quote: revnagan
            Come and get it...

            And no one to come.
        2. +2
          4 June 2018 06: 35
          Only the Russian Federation from such a development will not become warmer. There will already be a hostile Neo-Ottoman Empire, and not "disloyal" Turkey, Armenia and Azerbaijan. In Geopolitics, it is necessary to divide the enemy states, and make their fragments allied and loyal and pick it up for themselves. And the provinces of Russia need to do only STRATEGICALLY profitable territories, by the way, it’s enough to remain just ALLIANCE.
      2. +7
        3 June 2018 12: 33
        Well, there is another factor. In the USA there is a considerable, and very influential Armenian diaspora. Influential, because rich. So Armenia cannot but hope for these people. They probably think that they will become the next "unsinkable aircraft carrier" of the USA, they say relatives will put in a word ...
        I’m afraid sobering will be very painful for them.
        1. +1
          3 June 2018 20: 55
          Quote: Mikhail3
          Well, there is another factor. In the USA there is a considerable, and very influential Armenian diaspora. Influential, because rich. So Armenia cannot but hope for these people. They probably think that they will become the next "unsinkable aircraft carrier" of the USA, they say relatives will put in a word ...
          I’m afraid sobering will be very painful for them.

          Michael3, in the USA there cannot be influential from non-dominant tandem of the nations-owners of the USA ...
          Wilson tried to make the US stronghold from Armenia in 1918-1920, but he was put in the corner by the real owners of the United States.
      3. +3
        3 June 2018 18: 15
        In 1915, the Russians pulled out the remnants of Armenia from total genocide, and now they are again climbing there. Is 100 years enough for them to remember?

        It seems that, according to your comments, you were in this region, but you don’t know the story. The Armenian Genocide began after the support of the Western Armenians of the Russian troops. And at the moment, not a single square meter of Western Armenia (part of Turkey) is part of present-day Armenia. the rest of historical Armenia was by force divided by Soviet Russia and Turkey, which the so-called To Azerbaijan.
        And Ar.tsah will not deter if the agreement is repeated. After the overflow of the Afrin Kurds, everything can be expected from the current Russian government. In case Armenians lose Ar.Tsakh, they will certainly ask for a Russian base ....
        The memory must be refreshed, otherwise the Turks will be the only allies and in the future masters of their historical lands and not only their own.
        1. +3
          3 June 2018 21: 01
          Garnik, where did this thought come from?
          The genocide was planned in advance, the Young Turks expressed dissatisfaction that we were not assimilated there. And they saw that none of the Entente (first of all, RIA) was trying to stop this from happening.
          1. +1
            4 June 2018 11: 30
            The genocide of the Christian peoples of Western Asia began with the advent of the Seljuks, and reached its apogee in the early 20th century.
            Yes, no one extended a helping hand, but only exacerbated the situation of Christians. Some put on the Turks to influence Russia through them, others in the person of the Turks discerned the spread of the ideas of Marxism in Muslim countries. The first still have not abandoned their idea, and the second, the Turks at one time hung noodles on their ears and continue to do this.
            1. +1
              7 June 2018 21: 21
              Quote: garnik
              The genocide of the Christian peoples of Western Asia began with the advent of the Seljuks, and reached its apogee in the early 20th century.

              I'll fix it a bit.
              The genocide in Asia Minor began in the year 622 ... during the Byzantine-Persian war ... The Khazars of the Byzantine bloc took advantage of the defeat of the Persians and organized the brutal massacre of the Caucasian Albans, freeing themselves land hundreds of years before their possible settlement, and the Persians at the same time. It seems to me that our fault is also in this: it was necessary not only to refuse to help the Greeks in that war, but also vice versa - it was necessary to stand next to the Persians (as the Avars did in a distant land) and jointly break the Byzantine-Khazar block .. Then our good Albanian neighbors would not have disappeared from the historical arena (as a state), the Persians would have remained strong, and perhaps our quartet (Persia + South Caucasus) could have a little later repelled the invasion of the Semites under the Islamic banner ... and were not if the hundred thousandth cities of Persia were cut out by them, the Albanians would not be erased, and we would not be under their yoke for a couple of centuries.
              If ... If ... If I knew in advance ...
      4. AUL
        +1
        3 June 2018 23: 55
        Now, if they do not restrain Karabakh, Russia will withdraw its group from Gyumri, and then Azerbaijan and Turkey will quietly divide among themselves. That's all finita.winked
        And then all the Armenians will be in Moscow and Sochi!
    4. +6
      3 June 2018 11: 42
      But like Russia, was not a profitable partner for all these countries? Over the years, Russia has subsidized the economies of all these states, and some (Armenia and Belarus) also continue to subsidize. Nobody, even all other countries combined, gave purely economic preferences to these our closest neighbors (all the former republics of the USSR except for Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan). The fact is that the formation of their elites takes place under pressure from the united West, which for the time being has the right to label the legitimacy or illegitimacy of any government without paying attention to the results of real elections.
      1. 0
        3 June 2018 21: 25
        Quote: Vladimir K.

        But like Russia, was not a profitable partner for all these countries? Over the years, Russia has subsidized the economies of all these states, and some (Armenia and Belarus) also continue to subsidize

        For us, the Russian Federation was the "roof" for "our" foreign power, which it put on our neck in October 1999.
        1. dSK
          +4
          3 June 2018 23: 33
          Quote: Karenius
          For us, the Russian Federation was a "roof"

          You have made your choice. The price of oil is rising by leaps and bounds, followed by more expensive gas. Armenia is not a "transit" country and "discounts" do not shine for you. As well as arms deliveries due to loans from Russian banks under the new "pro-Western" president and premiere.
          It would be nice to stop the flow of your emigrants to Russia, or at least to block access for the "participants" of the Yerevan "Maidan". We have enough of our unemployed and “heaped up”.
          1. 0
            4 June 2018 01: 00
            Quote from dsk
            As well as arms deliveries due to loans from Russian banks under the new "pro-Western" president and premiere.
            It would be nice to stop the flow of your emigrants to Russia, or at least to block access for the "participants" of the Yerevan "Maidan". We have enough of our unemployed and “heaped up”

            Well, we have a presidential role like a wedding general, meaning nothing, and Nikol can be much more honest in relations with Moscow than a sergeant, because the latter has billions in Western banks and kept it for Faberge.
            As for the migrants from here, we will be better off if the people stay here.
            I won’t say anything in our bulk because I don’t know anything about them.
            1. +1
              5 June 2018 17: 11
              Somehow strange he was held for feberzhe))). The Russian military base, the EAEU, all this happened under Serzhik. Maybe there are no billions, but there is chewing gum for suckers?
              1. 0
                7 June 2018 21: 32
                Quote: Slon379
                Somehow strange he was held for feberzhe))). The Russian military base, the EAEU, all this happened under Serzhik. Maybe there are no billions, but there is chewing gum for suckers?

                So they didn’t hang them for fabs, but they kept them for accommodations. The Russian base does not bother them - next October in Moscow you will leave Armenia ... The EAEU is a trifle by their standards ... Their embassy is so big not against you, but against Persia.
                About billions - in the Panamanian "dossier", only our chief bailiffs flashed 700 million. evergreens ... And how many will be on other accounts, no one is interested ...
    5. +1
      4 June 2018 03: 23
      Quote: tasha
      There is Russia, our country with you. There are sovereign states in the former post-Soviet space. They have their own way, their own picture of the world. It’s silly and pointless to wait for gratitude from them, especially for us to have some kind of relationship. Our country will be a profitable partner - the allies will reach us themselves ...

      recourse recourse Apparently, you did not bother to read the article !! what wassat wassat read .. there are a lot of interesting things written for our sovereign neighbors ... however, judging by the delirium written by you, your thinking also fits into the framework of their thoughts !!! wink Yes laughing laughing laughing
    6. 0
      11 June 2018 18: 28
      Not so easy. Is Russia a disadvantageous partner? What, the States will have Armenia to buy its shitty cognac and substandard fruits by kilotons? There is a wonderful association with divorce: living is profitable and convenient, but my husband is tired! I want something sharp and fresh! Even a lyuley ...
  2. +8
    3 June 2018 06: 04
    It's simple: sold to those who have more money. The West has more of them, but morality .....
    Well, who then thinks of morality? request
    1. +3
      3 June 2018 06: 31
      It is now fashionable to call it throughout the CIS - multi-vector Yes
      1. +18
        3 June 2018 06: 48
        Quote: thinker
        It is now fashionable to call it throughout the CIS - multi-vector

        One already has a vector-vector ... Barely faded, to Rostov.
        And the war, the bastard, left behind.
      2. 0
        3 June 2018 21: 37
        Quote: thinker
        It is now fashionable to call it throughout the CIS - multi-vector Yes

        In our case, multi-vectoring is more than 1500 years old - as it was divided between Rome and Persia.
        Probably, it was just necessary to stand next to Persia - we saw much more foolishness from the Romans than from the Persians .. It is no coincidence that in the 622nd we refused to help Byzantium against Persia, when they took the Khazar as their allies (and the Persians Avars :)).
        1. +1
          4 June 2018 06: 40
          But Byzantium then won on "points", so it was not put on those.
          1. 0
            4 June 2018 20: 21
            Quote: zoolu350
            But Byzantium then won on "points", so it was not put on those.

            That victory of Byzantium over Persia came to the Greeks after 400 years ... the Khazars then slaughtered the Christian Caucasian Albans, and after the Arab invasion there was no one to defend those lands ... then the Turks, Kurds went there ... settled, and off we go .. .
    2. +18
      3 June 2018 08: 31
      Quote: Olgovich
      It's simple: sold to those who have more money. The West has more of them, but morality .....

      The most interesting thing is that this simple idea in the article did not sound at all. smile
      It seems that the author was too quick to splash out his stream of consciousness on people. It would be better to streamline my thoughts and understand the terms.
      Then maybe I would have seen that there are no "independent path choices" among the former union republics. Just because all these republics are not players, but platforms where real players find out relations: the USA, Europe, China and the Russian Federation.
      Among the players there is neither Ukraine, nor Armenia, nor the rest of the "states." And the peoples of these "states" understand or feel this. Therefore, they turn not to their rulers, but to the players. Someone is looking for happiness in the West, and someone is hoping for the Russian Federation. Just because there is no one else.
      And here a strange picture arises: the West is actively working with its adherents, and the Russian Federation is trying not to notice its adherents. Notices only when there is simply nowhere to go - Crimea and Donbass are good examples.
      Pro-Russian people in the post-Soviet republics simply cannot accept the fact that the Russian Federation in every possible way dodges being an active player. Either he doesn’t want, or he cannot - it’s impossible to understand. But people simply can’t stop hoping for “Russia” - they simply have no one else to hope for. What the West carries people do not like, their local kings are completely dependent on the West. And it’s stupid to hope that people without help from outside will be able to throw off their rulers, whom the West helps.

      Specially took "Russia" in quotation marks to emphasize the author’s problems with terminology:
      "Country Ukraine" is doomed
      .
      The author confuses two different concepts - the country and the state.
      A country is fields, forests, mountains, rivers ... and people. What is created by God.
      And the state is presidents, deputies, oligarchs, the police, the army ... What is created by people.
      Often not the best people.

      So Russia is great country. Beautiful, richly gifted by nature, with talented peoples. And the Russian Federation is one of states, which wound up on the territory of Russia. A rather ambiguous state. Relating even to its citizens is rather disregard. And about foreign citizens, it’s not even worth talking about.
      This state, due to its scale and resources, fell into the players. Sometimes one gets the impression that it is against one’s will and is very burdened by the role of the player. And therefore it plays as if from under a stick. Here is this article - just a cry from the soul of the "hatskraynik" - do not bother us ... we do not want to dictate ...
      Players don't act like that
      Players try to keep the initiative and dictate the rules of the game. Especially when it comes to the fact that you need to win back the once lost, and not give up:
      I will say in general: I do not see great prospects for Russia in the post-Soviet space
      negative
      It translates into normal language - i don't want to be a player, I want to be a platform for the game (like Lithuania, Ukraine, Armenia, etc.). Well then, you need to be prepared that your representatives will be put out into the corridor when the players agree on how to divide your country. As was the case with the Ukrainian Foreign Minister.
      1. +3
        3 June 2018 12: 40
        At the heart of all your reasoning is a simple statement. The West has many more cookies, and it is actively using it, but Russia does not, so Russia is losing. You see, someone else reasonably asked on Bash - and who told you that if the Dark Side has cookies, then it will share with you?
        Why did you decide that the West has more cookies because it distributes them? And we must join in the distribution, trying to fill up the "partners" with the greatest number of benefits, so that they choose our side for this? It’s just that our stubborn neighbors need to get a pissed rag in their faces from the “western partners”. They stand in a knee-elbow pose, grow wiser. And then, only then, will we come back. May be. Sometime. If the same Armenians ask for it properly. And they’ll really grow wiser to ask not with words, but with real actions. And now - let them go under whoever they want. That's right. There is no other way. By the way, we have already taken mountains of cookies to them. It didn’t help and for a penny ...
        1. +11
          3 June 2018 14: 05
          Quote: Mikhail3
          At the heart of all your reasoning is a simple statement. The West has a lot more cookies

          Break away from these cookies. Rise to a higher level - to the level of the Big Game, in which the Russian Federation is forced to play whether she wants it or not. The game is for resources, for living space, for human capital. So far, the Russian Federation does not shine in this game - and it is forced to sell resources as raw materials (and not as the final product), and people do not arrive (despite the flow of migrants) and living space is shrinking (neighbors from neutral ones become hostile).

          I was not talking about cookies, but about the fact that in this Great Game of the Russian Federation it behaves, to put it mildly, “strange”. With this style of play, it’s hard to count on any great success. But big losses may well happen. And if the RF does not change the style of the game, then your “we will come back” may not work. Since the confrontation can move deeper into the Russian Federation. Due to the next loss of part of living space.
          And about the fact that:
          By the way, we have already taken mountains of cookies to them. It didn’t help and for a penny ...

          This is a reason for a serious analysis of the actions of the Russian government: whether people transported cookies, whether they transported cookies, and maybe they didn’t have to carry cookies at all. Moreover, those who drove these cookies themselves stole them mercilessly. Take an interest in the budget of Rossotrudnichestvo in recent years 10-15 and compare it with the "achievements". Accounting is clearly not converging.

          By the way, do not forget that cookies are the tip of the iceberg. So that Aunt Nutland could show off on the Maidan with her cookies, only the United States alone officially spent 5 billions of dollars. And how much unofficially no one knows. Yes, and the rest of the West has added a lot.

          And, most importantly, all this money was spent not on oligarchs, but on powerful and professional work on reformatting the brains of Ukrainians. The work that was carried out on the widest possible front and in which the mass of people was involved at all levels.

          The cookies of the Russian Federation against this background look simply wretched and unprofessional. Because no one can answer the question: "What exactly did the Russian Federation want to achieve with these cookies?"
          1. Old
            +10
            3 June 2018 18: 57
            I agree with you. I would like to add.
            Russia is not an example either in terms of living standards of the population, or in terms of efficiency in general. The governance model does not fit the scale of the challenges. There is no ideology. And the prospects too.
            People see this, and therefore turn away.
            1. +3
              3 June 2018 21: 59
              Scribe!
              Is there an ideology in the West? Well, besides the ideology of money? Only, I’ll tell you, no one is turning away from this ideology right now. Everyone is striving for this. And it becomes scary for our future generation, which is brought up on the same ideology of money! And this is a problem, you know, on a global scale, and not in a single country in Russia. The ideology of money is now defeating everyone else. In our country in the 90s she won.
          2. +1
            3 June 2018 22: 17
            Quote: Hlavaty
            Break away from these cookies. Rise to a higher level - to the level of the Big Game, in which the Russian Federation is forced to play whether she wants it or not. The game is for resources, for living space, for human capital.

            Get down from your upper levels! There, where easier, to the level of cookies. And understand the essence of these revolutions. People want to live in the west, well wink or the way they imagine this life. Perhaps they need to get burned on this as well, as we have burned ourselves since the 90s. To understand how beautiful life is, you need to go down one level ... laughing
            Judging by the latest news about trade wars between Western countries, these revolutionaries have nothing to catch. Greed has reached such a limit that jackals begin to devour their own kind. Maybe now comes the time for something new.
            1. +3
              4 June 2018 19: 23
              Quote: Hottabych
              Get down from your upper levels! There, where easier, to the level of cookies.

              Those who went down to the level of cookies went to ride on the Maidan. ... so-so company.
          3. +4
            4 June 2018 06: 54
            As you rightly noted everything. By the Big Game, I understand you understand the IDEA. The oligarch of the Russian Federation can even feed all cookies to its "homies" in the post-Soviet space, but it will not bring him good luck, because there is no core IDEA. But the cookies of the Fed owners will give the desired result, because the IDEA they have worked out enough. Unfortunately, a lot of effort and nerves are taken away by the struggle against adherents of the KhPP at the military academy who advocate for "themselves," not realizing that the matter will not be limited to Armenia, Ukraine and Kazakhstan and until the owners of the Fed achieve the creation of Muscovy, Ingermalandia, the Caucasus Emirate, Ural Republic, Far Eastern Federal Republic and Volga Federation, they will not calm down.
            1. +4
              4 June 2018 20: 00
              Quote: zoolu350
              the matter will not be limited to Armenia, Ukraine and Kazakhstan, and until the owners of the Fed achieve the creation of Muscovy, Ingermalandia, the Caucasus Emirate, the Urals, Far East and the Volga Federation, they will not calm down.

              Sometimes the hardest thing to believe in obvious things. Psychologically, people want to hope that "there is at the top of the wheel" are the wise and all-knowing, who will not allow trouble.
              I always give an example of the collapse of the USSR in such a way - people did not come to the defense of the USSR in many respects because they could not believe that there is no one up there who can stop these Bialowieza freaks. It seemed that now someone (a glorious party, the all-seeing KGB or someone else) would take this trinity by the neck and tear it together with pieces of paper signed by them.
              The same situation may arise with HPP. It comes to the point, and it may turn out that there is no plan.
              Let me remind you the words of Putin from the film about the Crimea. He said that the situation was so unexpected that the Russian government had to "make decisions literally from the wheels." This means that with respect to Crimea, any plans were simply ABSENT. Neither strategy nor tactics ...
              The same can be said about the Maidan itself. It is enough to recall that the Maidan of 2014 of the year was SECOND! And the first was in 2004. TEN YEARS OVER! And for Russia, the second Maidan was a complete surprise. Again no action plan, improvisation again.

              Directly on Chernomyrdin: "It never happened, and here it is again!"
              1. +1
                4 June 2018 20: 32
                Vladimir, not quite so ... people saw everything, understood everything, but did not take up arms against the grabbers and destroyers of the USSR, because they knew that they would die in an unequal war: the Paskuds are always heavily armed and structured ... Who believed in the KGB? None!!! Since they saw their toothlessness in the preservation of the country ... and this is if you do not take into account that it was the KGB of the USSR that was the main destroyer of the USSR.
              2. +1
                8 June 2018 07: 35
                Sometimes the hardest thing to believe in obvious things. Psychologically, people want to hope that "there is at the top of the wheel" are the wise and all-knowing, who will not allow trouble.


                There is no such thing anywhere and children can believe it.

                I always cite the example of the collapse of the USSR — people did not defend the USSR in many respects because they could not believe it.


                Many did not care, many wanted to "cows"

                I recall the words of Putin from the film about the Crimea. He said that the situation was so unexpected that the Russian government had to "make decisions literally from the wheel."


                In fact, Putin Putin is the current politician.
                Are you sure that he can be completely honest?

                And for the Russian Federation, the second Maidan was a complete surprise.


                why did you decide so?
                1. +1
                  8 June 2018 21: 44
                  Quote: Olezhek
                  Psychologically, people want to hope that "up there at the helm" are the wise and all-knowing, who will not allow adversity.
                  There is no such thing anywhere and children can believe it.

                  I regularly observe this childhood faith in all elections.
                  So you recently had an election wink

          4. +3
            7 June 2018 22: 08
            The most adequate comment on the site and the last six months (about the post-Soviet space). I completely agree with everything. And Russia needs to learn from the West. There, presidents are changing, governments are leaving, but the GENERAL line is unchanged for decades (US policy toward the USSR-RF is a vivid example of this). And the reasoning that we do not need Ukraine, Belarus is not our friend ... So, why does the Amer have to do everything and everything? And the answer from YOU is stated clearly. hi
            1. +2
              8 June 2018 07: 38
              And the reasoning that we do not need Ukraine, Belarus is not our friend ...


              The truth is sometimes bitter.
              After the Turks brought down the Russian drying to the Turkish embassy in Minsk
              it came out as much ... scary to say - 0 man
              And Lukashenko ran to hug Erdogan.

              I will very quietly keep silent about Ukraine ...
              1. +1
                8 June 2018 19: 07
                No. Guys are you there are fighting for your interests. 99% of Belarusians to the bulb, what is happening in Syria. And that no one came out, so you yourself are to blame. Reread the posts of Captain Glavaty. Everything there, in my opinion, is set out extremely clearly and correctly. And if Russia, according to Medvedev (I'm talking about “no one keeps you in the EAEU”), and you, too (according to your previous comments about the insolvency of Belarus as a state), there are no interests in Belarus, these amers have EU (direct evidence of this). And standing at the embassy and waving posters, what's the point, you won’t return the pilot. And remember, when tragedies occurred in Russia (the last in Kemerovo), how many people came to your embassy in Minsk.
                And you are all about parasites, dependents, etc. You write nonsense. Even discussing it is disgusting. hi
      2. +2
        4 June 2018 00: 28
        You somehow completely lost sight of the fact that if not for the Russian historical state, these beautiful fields and rivers would be part of other states. Or maybe you know the peoples and countries that live outside the state? The state is a complex phenomenon and it is not worth reducing it to primitive interpretations (gangster roof, authorities, etc.). Although it’s certainly easier.
        1. +1
          4 June 2018 19: 12
          Quote: didra
          Russian historical state

          And what kind of beast is this? Decipher, please, the term coined by you.
          Quote: didra
          The state is a complex phenomenon and should not be reduced to primitive interpretations (gangster roof, authorities, etc.)

          Studying at one time the “Theory of State and Law” and “The History of the State and Law” he very clearly learned that the state and the country (territory if you like) are not at all the same thing. The state is born and dies, is divided and united, and the country as it was and remains.
  3. +5
    3 June 2018 06: 06
    Thanks to the author for not being afraid to touch on this topic. Just one comment. There is no socialism in Belarus. There Lukashenko painstakingly pays off his own people with the remnants of the social system that there certainly was. But they are not trying to develop or even support social guarantees in Belarus.
  4. +19
    3 June 2018 06: 35
    Ukraine Russia Belarus one people one state.
    The meaning of the article .... the author wants to tell everyone that Russia today does not want to take responsibility for what is happening in the post-Soviet space. The Russian leadership has no ideas and no plans to restore a single state like the USSR RI, thereby confirming the surrender to SGA in 1991 .
    And he does not understand that in order to preserve Russia in civilization terms, it is necessary to restore the influence of at least on common ethnic ethnic territories. The influence of the gates will destroy Russia itself as well as gangrene.
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    2. +15
      3 June 2018 07: 06
      Quote: apro
      And he does not understand that in order to preserve Russia in civilization terms, it is necessary to restore the influence of at least on common ethnic ethnic territories. The influence of the gates will destroy Russia itself as well as gangrene.


      To save Russia (with a capital letter) it is necessary that the Russian people feel that they have a future. It is high time to stop showing great imperial ambitions and concentrate on internal problems. Instead of supporting the "fraternal peoples" it is necessary to raise the level of well-being of its own population. When in Russia the majority of the population will live with dignity, and in the economic development of the country will become independent of the commodity situation, then the "fraternal" republics themselves reach out to us.
      1. +10
        3 June 2018 07: 24
        Quote: Bongo
        It's time to stop showing great empire and concentrate on domestic issues

        But from this place for details. Russia today does not demonstrate imperial ambitions but serves the interests of the primary sectors of the economy. There is nothing left.
        Well, share how to solve the internal problems of an underdeveloped capitalist state? The solution of internal problems is based on the state of the whole people. Today, this is not observed.
        1. +7
          3 June 2018 07: 31
          Quote: apro
          But from this place for details. Russia today does not demonstrate imperial ambitions but serves the interests of the primary sectors of the economy. There is nothing left.

          Before you demand a report, please learn how to formulate your thoughts, in addition, the name of our country is written with a capital letter.
          Quote: apro
          Well, share how to solve the internal problems of an underdeveloped capitalist state? The solution of internal problems is based on the state of the whole people. Today, this is not observed.

          What it does not suit you?
          Quote: Phil77
          First of all, to tackle our own problems, our citizens, our economy! But when all this is in order, there will be no external problems, since they will respect it.

          Quote: Comrade Ivanov
          To have influence, Russia must have its own civilizational path.

          Quote: Comrade Ivanov
          Russia must first create its own model, attractive to others, and then look for allies.
  5. +3
    3 June 2018 07: 06
    Armenia ... Armenia .... Ah, Armenia ... I remember ... I remember ... There was such a country ... She still had problems with Azerbaijan ... And the same with Turkey ... I tell you the Russian language I repeat .... There was such a country and the question is closed ...
    1. +7
      3 June 2018 07: 13
      Quote: Vard
      I repeat to you in Russian .... There was such a country and the question is closed ...

      Quickly, you “closed” ... And the base in Armenia, apparently you don’t need, and in general, is it time for Russia to collect little things and wipe it off from everywhere?
      1. +2
        3 June 2018 07: 25
        First of all, to tackle our own problems, our citizens, our economy! But when all this is in order, there will be no external problems, since they will respect it.
        1. +8
          3 June 2018 08: 11
          Paradox: due to the transport isolation of the base in Gyumri for Russia, it is not so important ..
          as for Armenia, for which it is very, very important ...
          But the United States, it interferes simply because it is Russian ...
      2. +3
        3 June 2018 08: 52
        And why not ... Armenia needs it first of all as a kind of guarantee against Azerbaijan ... and Turkey ...
      3. +2
        3 June 2018 13: 14
        Need not. And the Armenians are not much needed.
  6. +19
    3 June 2018 07: 21
    To have influence, Russia must have its own civilizational path. She has no development model and what to offer others. The slogan of Russia: Come to us to get bogged down together. The Western world may be rotten, but there is a sparkle, Russian gray. What do you offer Armenia? Which way of development? Russia must first create its own model, attractive to others, and then look for allies.
    1. +9
      3 June 2018 07: 41
      absolutely correct opinion ...
      to the strong DRAW ... and with the coots DRAW ...
    2. 0
      4 June 2018 00: 48
      Quote: Comrade Ivanov
      The Western world may be rotten, but there is a sparkle, Russian gray.

      The brilliance of violence of robbery and murder, he is certainly brighter than the dullness of honest and decent.
      Quote: Comrade Ivanov
      Russia must first create its own model, attractive to others, and then look for allies.

      To begin with, Russia should not and is not obliged. It turned out that the path of money-grubbing and violence of Western civilization turned out to be closer to you, how do you understand the Russian choice?
      1. 0
        4 June 2018 00: 52
        And what is the "Russian choice"?
        1. 0
          4 June 2018 01: 24
          Quote: Town Hall
          And what is the "Russian choice"?

          There is a key misunderstanding.
          Quote: Comrade Ivanov
          and then look for allies

          Namely allies, Russia does not need parasites, "younger brothers", "bros". The USA has no allies, they have subordinates (I will not use the word "slaves", but they are precisely the slaves who plow America). Those who do not want American slavery will follow Russia.
          1. +3
            4 June 2018 06: 13
            Why then does everyone want to be allies with the United States, and not with Russia?
            1. +2
              4 June 2018 11: 54
              Quote: Comrade Ivanov
              Why then does everyone want to be allies with the United States, and not with Russia?

              Everyone wants so much, there’s nowhere to spend the night !!! Ask Germans and Japanese how they “want” to be “allies” of Americans. They only want people like you - who are hoping for handouts from Uncle Sam. These "prosperous" Europeans say that the Russians set us free again.
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              1. 0
                4 June 2018 15: 10
                So you need to start because some like it.
      2. +1
        4 June 2018 06: 11
        Russia needs to change for itself and its citizens, and not for others.
      3. 0
        4 June 2018 06: 14
        Russia needs to change for itself and its citizens, and not for others.
    3. 0
      5 June 2018 17: 34
      Do not come up with slogans for Russia. Visit us to become stronger together. If you just get bogged down with us, you’ll just drown with them - Ukraine is an example for you! Ish, you need to offer him something, or we live as a family and work together or dependents on the way out! You get rich there, and then I will if something is wrong with you. You need to stick together, grow together and be happy together and then no cookies will destroy this friendship.
  7. +10
    3 June 2018 07: 30
    "We do not hold anyone by force! ... We do not impose ourselves.
    ... It’s just a long time ago to understand that Russia is not the legendary “country of good suckers with an extra hundred”.

    Well, that’s the author’s "a little carried." The "RF" gives loans, writes off loans, saves, equips, allows "labor migrants", the Gyumri and 201 base are protected ... The reasons for such "humanism" at someone else’s expense are understandable. The right of corporations to access markets and guarantee property in post-Soviet republics is bought with budget money. And these corporations (energy, gas, telecommunication, etc.) have a whole international of owners with offshore jurisdiction.

    ps Someone from the Russian Federation’s politicians may have spoken about “divorce and maiden name”, but Moscow’s policy itself is completely opposite.
    1. 0
      3 June 2018 08: 14
      About "divorce and maiden name" can someone from the Russian-Skov politicians and said, but the very policy of Moscow is completely the opposite.


      No longer
  8. +4
    3 June 2018 08: 15
    [quote = tasha] There is Russia, our country is with you. "
    There are real enemies within Russia
  9. +17
    3 June 2018 09: 16
    Russia is not an example for the former union republics, no one really wants to reach us, our heads are turned towards the West and China, the USA .. in the worst sense .. Besides our oligarchs, we can’t offer anything else .. In general, how It was stated that Russia recognizes European democratic values ​​.. Hence the conclusion that these values ​​are more valuable in the West than in Russia. And then wonder, and why former "sisters" look to the West .. and maidanyat and why they do not listen to our warnings.
    1. 0
      11 June 2018 18: 35
      And what can the West offer Armenia? In addition, of course, the puppet government, the dominance of American oligarchs, the arrogant American warriors at the bases and the pederastic "diversity." He won’t give money.
      1. 0
        11 June 2018 19: 09
        So we are told, by the native government: There is no money, but you hold on .. But Armenia, there is nothing to offer except money ..
  10. +2
    3 June 2018 10: 54
    The article is good. I agree that Russia owes nothing to Armenia and further to the countries of the former USSR, which cannot be said the other way around. Obviously, in the Russian Federation they did not learn how to build profitable and strong alliances even with their closest neighbors and, in general, friends, for reasons:
    1. the lack of clear goals in the region, in the specific state for the medium-long term both in the economy and in the military-political sphere (what to give what to get, taking into account the interests of the two parties, supported not by words, but by the economy, treaties, guarantees that this is all it will be executed regardless of who was elected today, tomorrow, see the practice of the PRC). In a democratic state, the one whom they choose will determine: who the media controls and the case of control. Therefore, in the United States, you can choose who you want, but state policy is unchanged. - We, too, should take this into service, but for this we need selection into the elite strictly in terms of business qualities.
    2. the lack of work with citizens of another state through non-parliamentary public associations — dialogue is important with people — and these are the media, cinema, and public associations these days.
    1. +5
      3 June 2018 11: 17
      Yes, and control of the elites through economic instruments, in the worst case, through compromising evidence, but money is much more reliable. An even more powerful tool is mastery of minds because of adherence to values ​​and ideas. But nothing creative happens on its own, it takes a lot of work.
      1. +6
        3 June 2018 11: 26
        but money is much more reliable
        .... Philip II of Macedon spoke about this - the city will take any donkey, unless, of course, load it with gold! .
        1. +3
          3 June 2018 17: 30
          Quote: parusnik
          .... Philip II of Macedon spoke about this - the city will take any donkey, unless, of course, load it with gold! .

          Is that the father of Sasha of Macedon?
          But Shurik, growing up, did not rely on donkeys, and therefore became the Great in millennia.
          1. +1
            3 June 2018 18: 08
            They added, something like that I wanted to finish the phrase, but changed my mind ...
            1. +1
              3 June 2018 18: 11
              Quote: parusnik
              They added, something like that I wanted to finish the phrase, but changed my mind ...

              You're welcome Yes
          2. 0
            4 June 2018 07: 05
            So the fact is that the load of donkeys may one day end, unless of course you are the owner of the Fed, which produces this cargo. Therefore, for Russia, the idea of ​​"donkeys with money" is unacceptable.
    2. 0
      4 June 2018 00: 52
      Quote: gromovanton
      Obviously, the Russian Federation did not learn how to build profitable and strong alliances even with its closest neighbors.

      Quite the contrary, Russia is now building mutually beneficial relations with its neighbors, but many former ones refuse such relations for ideological reasons contrary to their economic interests. And the ideology of the "former" is simple - to be against the Russians so that the overseas uncle praises them for their "non-Russians", preferably in dollars.
  11. 0
    3 June 2018 12: 10
    The article is not for the elites, but for the people who support this nonsense.
  12. +1
    3 June 2018 12: 47
    The most reasonable and correct assessment of the article (and the whole situation after the division of the Union) was given by Captain Glavaty. Unfortunately, the Kremlin does not understand this. Yes, and many ordinary Russians, too.
  13. +2
    3 June 2018 12: 56
    If Russia leaves the post-Soviet space, then what about the Russians living in Armenia, Kazakhstan and Belarus? Let them be left to the local Nazis in Ukraine?
    So you can’t leave, but you need to urgently develop the idea of ​​the Russian world and unite the Russians living in the post-Soviet space.
    Then if the Maidan will be Russian and we ourselves will put the right government, and Europe and the United States will express deep concern)
    1. +6
      3 June 2018 13: 16
      Of course we will! More plans to reduce the population of the Russian Federation have not been implemented. But Great Pu is determined!
    2. +1
      3 June 2018 19: 06
      Quote: 82т11
      If Russia leaves the post-Soviet space, then what about the Russians living in Armenia, Kazakhstan and Belarus? Let them be left to the local Nazis in Ukraine?

      I don’t know about Kazakhstan and Belarus, but in our country the Russians are quietly assimilating, marrying locals.
      ... I recall the thoughts of Igor Novikov: "... I am the Armenian son of the Russian people," or vice versa, he said that, in principle, it’s unambiguous.
      1. +1
        7 June 2018 20: 52
        Those. Russians will need to assimilate "getting married" everywhere? You can’t marry, because this is not assimilation, but occupation?
  14. +3
    3 June 2018 14: 38
    Russia needs to look less at its neighbors (near and far) and build its economy, raise the standard of living of the people, then it will be necessary to fight off these neighbors so that they don’t get involved. Everyone understands the power, and if Russia lives well and richly, it will not be necessary to force anyone to something. The United States is attractive for the standard of living of its people (embellished by Hollywood, of course) and its ubiquitous military force (also without Hollywood) So you need to work and everything will be fine ...
    1. 0
      4 June 2018 00: 54
      Quote: 933454818
      The USA is attractive for the standard of living of its people (embellished by Hollywood, of course)

      What a deep sense in this phrase. That is, it is not necessary to raise the standard of living, is it necessary to invest in propaganda, in mass media, in cinema?
  15. +7
    3 June 2018 14: 58
    Instead of collecting, such as Leontyev, they dream of further collapse. First they dream that, God forbid, someone from the former Union returned. And there is today's Russia wholesale and retail.
    1. +5
      3 June 2018 18: 35
      Leontyev is a complete alcoholic, honestly did not expect a “miscarriage” from him, Shevchenko echoes him. And everyone is opposed to the Armenians, no one wants to remember other allies who have not been for almost a long time. Belarus and Armenia remain. And all nastiness is trying to undermine the fragile alliance.
      1. +4
        3 June 2018 18: 43
        So Leontiev promotes the interests of his people, not by passport ... nothing surprising.
        1. +3
          4 June 2018 05: 56
          In my opinion, people in power in Russia for 15 years have been driving a people with the help of which the future of Russia is predetermined by a catastrophic one. You won’t have to wait long
          maximum 25 years.
          1. 0
            4 June 2018 20: 48
            Quote: garnik
            In my opinion, people in power in Russia for 15 years have been driving a people with the help of which the future of Russia is predetermined by a catastrophic one. You won’t have to wait long
            maximum 25 years.

            With Andropov, it’s Lieberman ... When in 2008 Putin "reorganized" the structure of the Ministry of Internal Affairs under the slogan "the structure is wrong, corruption is intensifying," tons of operational information were lost (they didn’t manage to save the opera, that they carried the boxes to their homes), I immediately remembered how, under the same sign, Andropov fired 100 tons. mentoring staff.
            By the way, in the 86th, a friend from the Central Administration of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the USSR told me that Churbanov at one time also made the directive erase notes.
  16. 0
    3 June 2018 15: 15
    It’s high time to get rid of freeloaders, they don’t want to live in union and harmony with Russia, let them live with their own minds, and Ukraine has shown how smart they are.
  17. 0
    3 June 2018 16: 05
    Yeah ... It's time to get used to and draw conclusions. "Protect me, Lord, from brothers and friends, and I can handle the enemies myself."
  18. +1
    3 June 2018 16: 20
    It’s so fashionable to blame Russia for all troubles, because they are loafers and idlers (Russia is to blame), the country is sold to Western businessmen (Russia is to blame), and that the country is full of bribe takers (Russia is to blame), the trash bin was not taken out of the kitchen (Russia is to blame ) .Before this, the Communists were to blame, well, the Communists weren’t tired, and what became easier? They have been whining behind the cordon for centuries, they just don’t know how to do anything else.
  19. +2
    3 June 2018 16: 33
    They associate independence with independence from Russia. There amerokosy have been working on youth for many years. Where our Foreign Ministry is not clear. And the leadership of Armenia sneeze on his people. Let's see how Turkey and Azerbaijan squeeze them without Russia. I just returned from Georgia, so there the whole tourist industry belongs to the Turks. And in fact no independence.
  20. +1
    3 June 2018 18: 28
    Because almost all the inhabitants of the post-Soviet space for some reason do not quite adequately perceive the surrounding reality
    Like a blonde in the oncoming. All of her inadequately perceive the surrounding reality.
  21. +3
    3 June 2018 19: 46
    Having read the article once again I realized that it is always necessary to distinguish between the Russian Federation and Russia. The imperialistic predator of the middle arm and the Great Country. A predator parasitizes on its territory.
    And the author obviously plays the role of a lightning rod. Well, they surrendered Ukraine, they surrendered everything (not only did they surrender, they were opposed for a long time) the main thing is that we could not do anything, they are to blame, we are white fluffy. We are always in white - and they are bad not to obey, but we are already beating them and all is not right ..
    All wrong!
    There is no development, no idea ... except for the idea of ​​a dollar (not even an American one, but a Russian one) for your country (RF)
    the author even admitted that they used a power scenario (but what about the ichthamnet and the human conflict)
    here he is not offended or unpleasant ... and the development of the country and the space around it is not his.
    1. 0
      4 June 2018 00: 34
      Can you clearly argue your idea? No slogans. Just wondering?)
      1. 0
        4 June 2018 23: 00
        Quote: didra
        Can you clearly argue your idea? No slogans. Just wondering?)

        The author makes a mistake by writing that he does not dictate to anyone. As a capitalist country, the Russian Federation is promoting its interests (Gazprom corporations Rosneft, etc.) trying to dictate their conditions.
        It’s also mistaken that THEY are bad, and the “Interests of the Russian Federation” are very good for them. (It’s difficult under capitalism)
        In general, the interests of Russian corporations have led to the situation with Ukraine and the CIS, which we can contemplate at the moment. It was an attempt to dictate the conditions (very difficult for others) of their corporations that led to losses.
        Conclusion, either you need to revise the policy of dictating your conditions (the tactics did not work, it only worsened) or the conditions themselves. But it is already difficult with Ukraine, because the war in the name of Gazprom is already underway. And the upcoming negotiations on the extension on the terms of Kiev (more precisely the USA) will lead to even more escalation.
        1. 0
          5 June 2018 08: 53
          The author makes a mistake by writing that he does not dictate to anyone. As a capitalist country, the Russian Federation is promoting its interests (Gazprom corporations Rosneft, etc.) trying to dictate their conditions.


          Which country is actually Germany?
          Idealistic?
          Does she not promote Siemens interests in any way?
          Problems in this regard in Ukraine, they had?
          And why not?

          What country is the USA?
          etc.


          Or do you want to say that corporations have a place to be in Russia?
          But not in the "Holy Omerigu"?
        2. 0
          5 June 2018 17: 54
          Russians and Gazprom, who else)))) How it was possible to scoop up all consciousness to dryness, even in the USSR this was not.
  22. 0
    3 June 2018 21: 01
    They will fly - visa regime with Armenia and expel from here those who did not have time to obtain citizenship. And then they are already like cockroaches! Asked for independence? Received! Now, let’s do it yourself! And then they started local corruption, ruined the entire industry and began to slowly lubricate the skis to where it is sweeter to live!
    1. 0
      11 June 2018 18: 38
      One can also deprive Moscow Armenians of Russian citizenship and residence permit under one pretext or another. We will do well without them.
  23. 0
    3 June 2018 21: 12
    It is necessary to seize the moment and resolve the Karabakh conflict from the standpoint of international law!
    These territories do not belong to the Armenians, and after the attacks on Russia they will not finally belong!
    Everything should happen as with Crimea, but not in favor of Armenia. And then, the fallen economy of the next reckless under the onslaught of the Maidan will itself lead them to reconciliation with Russia, but on different conditions. Without Nagorno-Karabakh and with an impoverished population.

    You have to pay for stupidity
    1. +1
      3 June 2018 21: 59
      Yeah. and the impoverished population will then cling to us. occupying markets. will produce nothing. but just escalate prices. Due to their clan ties, they will survive in any country. A friend told how he was in Sweden. as a country for the Swedes it is no longer there - blacks Africans completely tune it for themselves. So there is a real threat from migrants to Russia
      1. 0
        11 June 2018 18: 43
        So, with them, as with a colony. Since they don’t like “friendship” and “bonds”. Strict visa regime, military coup and vassal position with a system of harsh penalties. Just like the US is doing.
  24. 0
    3 June 2018 22: 50
    By the way, in the same piggy bank of LDNR. Once again - there the LPR cannot even agree with the DPR, but what did the LPR arrange for example with Dremov, who really prevented the theft of humanitarian aid, for example? They removed the carpentry, was it only one smeared?
    And Putin’s all-dealers are all inclined to accept in the Russian Federation, people-brothers ...
    And what exactly in the DONETSK and LUGAN regions are punitive battalions of Donetsk, Azov, Aydar recruited? Forgot?
  25. 0
    4 June 2018 04: 56
    There will be no freebies. Absolutely. That's hysterical.
  26. +1
    4 June 2018 07: 53
    And really? What are we hysteria for? We are sitting on one seventh of the land, we have half of all reserves, the developed industry is quite shockproof, there is enough money in the bins, even if it has not been handed out to the population as offered. And under 10000 different-grade warheads for all occasions. And what do we need? Abstraction (at the location) of relations with neighbors is not a WORLD policy. For us, world politics - energy is more expensive, industry is stronger. The inner is the same, only the people are calmer. Is the base in Armenia so dear to us? No. It's just that this is the only argument for the independence of this state. Is the “fraternal" attitude of Ukraine so dear to us? No. Just really "sorry" for people. This fuss, regarding the strengthening of our sovereignty and power, does not solve geopolitical and strategic tasks at all, quite the contrary. Republic of Belarus? Yes, all the same, only the trade balance is already quite impressive. Well, let's play with our "adults" in our toys. What are we carrying these suitcases without a handful of handles? In Central Asia, yes, there it is. Islamists, traffic. The stupid preservation of statehood there is the geopolitical goal. And to make them friendly is a task. But let these "europioid" variants of state formations themselves dig out. And if the people are not stupid, then five thousand people for half a million bucks there will not change power. And if ... Well, do not blame me. We have popular money in loans and in trade; we need to protect it. And it’s just dumb to listen to this preschool chatter about occupation.
  27. +5
    5 June 2018 13: 15
    Quote: zoolu350
    Without the Old Man, you will start the same whistle as in Ukraine, and even the owners of the Fed will certainly add gasoline to the fire, this is not the oligarchy of the Russian Federation, which can only express eternal concerns.

    Be sure - the oligarchy (and not only) of the Russian Federation will also take part in this “fun” with pleasure, they have been drooling for a long time because there are so many “tasty” enterprises in the Republic of Belarus that you really want to grab, but the Old Man does not! For which he has great respect! By the way - the Russian authorities hate him for that, he only disguises it with all sorts of nonsense, (though rather vile) accusing the Republic of Belarus of dependency! sad
    1. 0
      7 June 2018 07: 00
      "they have long been drooling because of the fact that there are so many" tasty "enterprises in Belarus,


      It was ... in 1991
      An enterprise is not a monument.
    2. 0
      7 June 2018 10: 03
      RB are dependents, without free oil and gas all these tasty enterprises would have been bent already in the 90s. A dad does not give a hoot, because he also needs to feed.
  28. 0
    7 June 2018 10: 00
    Spit on their showdown, and on themselves! Let them go wherever they want, but they want to join NATO. And the “sovereign” Armenia and Azerbaijan are members of the partnership program with NATO. And nakoy us such ally friends?
  29. 0
    7 June 2018 13: 49
    Armenia! Get ready! Soon...
    Soon (after the departure of the Russian troops guarding your safety) you will be VERY fun!
    The organizers of the fun are Azerra and Turks!
    Oh and have some fun! Just do not forget the main thing: fat for lubricating the heels!
    BUT THIS IS YOUR CHOICE !!! fool negative soldier hi
  30. +1
    7 June 2018 20: 52
    Quote: sergo42
    RB are dependents, without free oil and gas all these tasty enterprises would have been bent already in the 90s. A dad does not give a hoot, because he also needs to feed.
    And will you meet NATO troops near Smolensk, or you have a “white ticket”, and your Georgian (Israeli, English ...) passport in your pocket ?! sad
    1. 0
      7 June 2018 22: 35
      If 42 is the year of birth, then he will only meet ... Well, think for yourself what a person can meet at such a venerable age. wink
  31. 0
    7 June 2018 21: 22
    Quote: sleeve
    In Central Asia, yes, it needs ... traffic ...
    This EAEU itself is part of the traffic - the common customs border. Previously, there was a risk on each border of the current members of this union that they would “burn off”, now in KZ or KG some customs have been cleared as raisins, and then virtually freely by any parties. Still, Tajiks in the EAEU would be "happiness in every home."
  32. 0
    8 June 2018 01: 09
    Quote: sviazist
    If 42 is the year of birth, then he will only meet ... Well, think for yourself what a person can meet at such a venerable age. wink

    Actually, in wartime, this is a military age. sad
  33. +2
    8 June 2018 07: 29
    At first, I hinted at her. She giggled.

    Then he presented the scales. She is incomprehensible, they say, what is it?

    Then, in plain text: - You're fat. She was offended ...

    I left.

    hi