Malaysian Ministry of Transport: Accusations against Russia in a Boeing strike are unproven

The Ministry of Transport of Malaysia has published a statement in which it speaks about the preliminary results of the investigation of the case of the crash of "Boeing" near Donetsk. The statement says that the findings of the Netherlands investigation that the airliner was shot down from an anti-aircraft missile system, which allegedly came to the Donbass from the Kursk region, are unsubstantiated.

The head of the Ministry of Transport of Malaysia, Anthony Lock, noted that the investigation after his loud statements did not provide the official Kuala Lumpur with all the materials that would serve as evidence of the "involvement of Russia" in the attack on the Malaysian board of MH17.

Anthony Locke:

The work of the investigators is not just to take and show a finger - to Russia. They are simply not eligible.

According to the Minister of Transport of Malaysia, you need to be more responsible in providing materials about the perpetrators of the terrible tragedy of July 2014.

Recall that the plane, attacked in the sky over the Donbas, belonged to the airline "Malaysia Airlines". All passengers and crew members of MH17 died. And Ukraine immediately blamed Russia for everything, although it was the “Buki” of the Ukrainian Armed Forces that day that they were on combat duty near the town of Zaroshchenskoye.

The statement of the representative of the Malaysian Cabinet clearly confuses all the cards to those who would like to prove unsubstantiated nonsense as “irrefutable facts of Russia's guilt”. Now sanctions imposed on Anthony Loka?

Comments

[bouncyhunter]

Now sanctions impose Anthony Lock?

You can’t go to a fortuneteller! Well, or a mouth shut up in a pack of bucks or a bullet in the forehead.

[Wild_grey_wolf]

Malaysians (Malays) handsome)))

[ul_vitalii]

Pasha welcome The bird is not great, it will cluck and calm down, everything is unfolding in Europe, and not there, at the devil's backyard.

[maxim947]

Maybe you need to react less to stupid things coming from Europe? answer dryly through the Foreign Ministry and that's enough. Let them "stink", you won’t shut the throat of every ghoul, time has shown that they at least ... in the eyes, all of God's dew. Work only in those areas where there is at least some kind of construct.

[cniza]

Good day to all! , this topic is for a long time.

[maxim947]

That's for sure..

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: maxim947

Maybe you need to react less to stupid things coming from Europe? answer dryly through the Foreign Ministry and that's enough.

Yes, actually they did. In my opinion today, only the main accomplices of the massacre of the USA and Urkain "believe" that Russia was involved in the death of Boeing. The rest have long understood that Russia is out of business.

[Yura]

Quote: maxim947

Let them "stink", you won’t shut the throat of every ghoul, time has shown that they at least ... in the eyes, all of God's dew.

But this Europe and the USA have nowhere else to go but to stand their ground, crap, but stand. Because if we do not recognize Russia as the culprit of the catastrophe, we can demand compensation for direct and indirect losses due to sanctions, the cause and cause of which was precisely this catastrophe, well, let Ukraine and the USA insist on sanctions for their losses.

[123456789]

Because if we do not recognize Russia as the culprit of the disaster, we may demand compensation for direct and indirect losses due to sanctions

at the Stockholm Arbitration Court

[Yura]

Quote: 123456789

at the Stockholm Arbitration Court

In Basman, this will be enough.

[kamikaze]

Subsequently, the argument about the fault of Russia became information on the collection of fingerprint information, according to which the fingerprints on the rocket belonged to Russian military personnel. These arguments initially seemed absurd to many. The Malaysian side, which is most interested in finding the culprit for the crash of the Boeing, which flew from the Netherlands to Malaysia, also considered the data given in the investigation unreasonable and stood up for Russia. Now the West will have to solve a difficult task in the form of justification for such a split between the countries included in the investigation group ....
Source: https://politpuzzle.ru/103828-raskol-v-sledstvii-
po-mn17-malajziya-zastupilas-za-rossiyu-i-otkazal
as-ot-obvinenij /

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: kamikaze

according to which the fingerprints on the rocket belonged to Russian soldiers

what nonsense ?!
firstly, how was it identified, and secondly, how did they survive at elevated temperatures?

[beeper]

Where did the Dutch investigators get this rocket ?! There, probably, fingerprinting of collectors and loaders of colormet scrap has long been a fingerprint , not military personnel!
They (their overseas puppeteers) sho, want under this bench to demand personal files of military personnel of the Russian air defense forces ??

[Piramidon]

Quote: pishchak

Where did the Dutch investigators get this rocket ?!

In photos on social networks. They also took fingerprints.

[beeper]

Even so ?! She, in her “save”, looks as if from a copra shop times of rotten Gorbachevschina!
When the missiles, which never started up, were cut into pieces and brought with whole wagons for remelting!

[asv363]

From the only photograph that I managed to see, the “rocket stage” looks more like a piece of pipe (trunk) TP -shi P.G.T. covered with anti-corrosion surfacing. or a small town. TP - thermal substation, if anyone is interested.

[thrush]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

firstly, how was it identified, and secondly, how did they survive at elevated temperatures?

fragments in the field, then someone was collecting .. and not only a rocket, but also an airplane .. and voila .. now half of the citizens of Donetsk and the militia who participated in the collection of fragments and local residents will be identified as military personnel of the RF Armed Forces ..

[Antares]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

firstly, how was it identified, and secondly, how did they survive at elevated temperatures?

translation errors "fingerprints".

[YELLOWSTONE]

in official investigative documents, fingerprints are called fingerprints and nothing else
prints of shoes already prints of shoes
the mistake is not a translation, but a provocation of Russian speakers from those who called themselves investigators and JIT, taking into account their level, this was immediately clear

[Zefr]

The profile of Putin is visible on the fingerprints of the Russian military. What is there to prove.

[krops777]

what nonsense ?!
firstly, how was it identified, and secondly, how did they survive at elevated temperatures?

Yes, they really don’t care, it’s true they have one that they carry the rest of fiction, the whole world for them (SGA) is second-class people, uneducated if you want.

[Procyon lotor]

. During the analysis of these images, a number of distinctive features were identified. The combination of these features is so unique that they can be considered as a “fingerprint”. This “fingerprint” was compared with a colossal amount of images of Buk self-propelled air defense systems, both Russian and Ukrainian origin. The only Buk air defense system on which the same combination of distinctive features was found was the Buk self-propelled air defense system, which was repeatedly captured on photos and vetera frames during its passage in the convoy of the 53rd brigade on June 23-25, 2014.

It is simply amazing where such sages as commentators on this site come from.

[helmi8]

Quote: ul_vitalii

everything takes place in Europe, and not there, the hell in the backyard.

However, this is an indicator that the backyard looks at the world realistically, unlike some ... (this is not about you, if that )

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: ul_vitalii

everything takes place in Europe, and not there, the hell in the backyard.

But I do not agree with you. In Europe, a show is unfolding with well-known goals and this must be very actively, preferably offensively, counteracted, otherwise they will be spread from head to toe and you won’t wash yourself off. And Malaysian is chopped off for its reputation: companies and countries. They suffered tremendous reputation losses and they have something to fight for: Malaysian was a five star airline, they announced a very sensible CEO from Europe, he really fled back. Honestly, Malaysians would like to wish good luck

[SSR]

Quote: Wild_Grey_Wolf

Malaysians (Malays) handsome)))

I am sure that they precisely understand who the customer is and who the performer is, just unlike the "democracies" and Euro-connoisseurs, they do not poke a finger without evidence.

[Wild_grey_wolf]

This is a big tragedy for the country and for them in the political. . . . . . Why not play, they have sincere pain and it is important to punish the real perpetrators. This is the big difference from the cynical European. . .

[asv363]

SSR (Roman) - Who is the customer and who is the performer, are you, of course, ready to tell us all?

[SSR]

Quote: asv363

SSR (Roman) - Who is the customer and who is the performer, are you, of course, ready to tell us all?

I dare to remind.
1. Over whose territory the plane was shot down.
2. Who was the first to blame Russia.
3. You can continue for a long time 4. 5. 6. on points, including why the plane changed the route? why the investigation was not provided with objective control data and negotiations from the zone of responsibility of the Ukrainian side, I dare to assume that it was the great-power Poroshenko who shut everyone up.
IMHA.
If the resentment of the EU - the United States continues, then something may come up.
PS.
Like Malaysia, I have no evidence, but there are reasonable suspicions.
Yes, and the scandal with Wada / Rodchenkov, polonium, BAB, creaked, Babchenko, Russian interference in the elections of the United States, North-2, Syria, Politkovskaya, Nemtsov, Crimea, pirozhkinuland, etc., etc.
- This is all the Kremlin’s hand.
It is worth remembering the chronology of events, and a new round came from the Munich speech of GDP, when it became clear that Russia, a cash cow, through browders, Khodorkovsky and others, it was precisely when they began to bring them to clean water that pressure and accusations began on Russia.

[210ox]

They should wait for troubles now .. Unfortunately ..

Quote: Wild_Grey_Wolf

Malaysians (Malays) handsome)))

[Wild_grey_wolf]

I think the families of those who died on the drum at all due to troubles do not even think about it. The country is small and it is very difficult to hide from the views of relatives.
The cynical, insolent colonizers who do not know pity cannot understand this.

[Sergej1972]

Not so small. 30 million people and a territory of more than 300 thousand square meters. km

[Wild_grey_wolf]

Still, you think the leadership of the country will be able to hide from the relatives of the victims.

[pvv113]

This ... bad man Anthony Lock destroyed all the slender four-year operating time

[Andrey K]

Quote: bouncyhunter

... You can’t go to a fortuneteller! Well, or a mouth shut up in a pack of bucks or a bullet in the forehead. ...

In this "investigation", Malaysians for the crowd are on the rights of Cinderella.
They are not allowed to "investigate"; they are kept at a distance.
The main violin is played by the British with the subjects of the English crown by the Australians, the Dutch as the most impolite and ancient Ukrainians, as suppliers of all the information, the most reliable and unbiased information, they are generally beyond suspicion.

[Wild_grey_wolf]

It is as if the car owner had been taken away from the car owner and they decide who is right and who is guilty without it.

[Andrey K]

Quote: Wild_Grey_Wolf

... It is as if the owner of a car in an accident had been taken away a car and they decide who is right and who is guilty without it ...

And there is.
Aircraft - Malaysian Airlines, pilots, passengers (most) - Malaysians.
Seeing Malaysia’s distrust of the quickly organized “trial”, they were pushed so far that they get bits of information.

[YELLOWSTONE]

most passengers are dutch
but there are no U.S. and Israeli citizens at all, or one with a double passport

[Andrey K]

Quote: YELLOWSTONE

... most of the passengers are Dutch ...

Thanks for the amendment. How offended for the Malaysians and messed up

[YELLOWSTONE]

they seem to be only investigating hijacked, if not bicycles
for example, radar data on the air situation about absolutely nothing
So there is a track from the Su-25 but there is zero attention to it, and there is no track with SAM, but they are looking for air defense systems
Malaysia, which then lost four aircraft in a year in such investigations, understands more precisely

[Antares]

Quote: Andrey K

The main violin is played by the British with the subjects of the English crown by the Australians, the Dutch as the most impolite and ancient Ukrainians, as suppliers of all the information, the most reliable and unbiased information, they are generally beyond suspicion.

The countries that make up the Joint Investigation Team (JIT) - Australia, Belgium, Malaysia, the Netherlands and Ukraine - will lead the investigation. Ukraine delegated all its rights to Holland.
England is not here

[YELLOWSTONE]

For example, the British were engaged in decoding recorders for a long time, the very ones that were transferred by the militia to the Malaysians and those who had already given them
although these recorders are simply connected to the interface and it immediately reproduces what’s inside like a flash drive or tape recorder
everything should be written on them according to the international open standard

[Orkraider]

Unexpectedly .. There are no translations on InoSmi yet, so the European newspapers did not publicize this statement .. was given a command to hush up? Or just early and not published? We will watch, but interestingly. And unexpectedly;)

[sir_obs]

Tomorrow someone will file a thread against him for harassment or tipatgo.

[Maz]

Well, at least these people don’t dance to the Vashigton tune ... did we give them a steamer of Kalashnikov rifles?

[siberalt]

And what prevents Malaysia from conducting its investigation with the participation of Russia itself? There are all legitimate reasons for this. There would be a desire and a will.

[bouncyhunter]

Desire, perhaps, is. But not allowed.

[Bo Yari]

to whom and what is not allowed?

[Avis-bis]

Quote: siberalt

And what prevents Malaysia from conducting its investigation with the participation of Russia itself? There are all legitimate reasons for this. There would be a desire and a will.

It will not work completely independent. The commission should include representatives of the country of the incident and a representative of the manufacturer.

[YELLOWSTONE]

LDNR representatives must still enter as they controlled the territory that they are not shelling and transferred debris airliner, crew and passengers boron recorders, and representatives of the Russian Federation the only publicly provided radar and intelligence data on an incident (or provocation) that occurred near Russian borders
preside over it if someone should Malaysia as a carrier and responsible for Dutch passengers at the same time, and not delegate to someone their authority
and conducted according to international norms and laws, such investigations of international air accidents should incidentally be open

[ul_vitalii]

At least one sound voice in this thread ..

[cost]

The Ministry of Transport of Malaysia has published a statement in which it speaks about the preliminary results of the investigation of the case of the crash of "Boeing" near Donetsk. The statement says that the findings of the Netherlands investigation that the airliner was shot down from an anti-aircraft missile system, which allegedly came to the Donbass from the Kursk region, are unsubstantiated.

At the preliminary results of the investigation of the case, both the injured party and the accused declare the fraud and lack of evidence of the charges. However, the prosecutor still requires a charge.
Actually, this is called a misconduct and in a decent society such "prosecutors" are punished

[poquello]

Quote: Rich

Actually, this is called a misconduct and in a decent society such "prosecutors" are punished

heh

in a decent society

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

one big PFFFFFF
if there would be evidence they would have been provided 4 years ago, although most likely they are only who they are exposing?

[Heterocapsa]

well done, apparently do not trade in sovereignty. The Netherlands has already surrendered to all the outbreaks.

[just exp]

and no one in the west will even listen to him. although it is worth noting, the man is very brave.

[Avis-bis]

Glory to Heaven, not the whole world has moved out of coils.

[Heterocapsa]

give me facebook or what is there he will thank the kid with a kind word

[rocket757]

He’s not in the mainstream! Now a muddy wave will cover it.
Hold on, man, the truth is still not on our side, but in the end we will wash away all the dregs!
Who needs it, who deserves it, we’ll wind our tails, but to those who deserve it, we’ll knock the horns!

[net0103net]

Thank you Malaysians. At least one good news today.

[udincev]

No wonder the representatives of Malaysia did not want to be included in the commission. In the interest of this country is truth, not pointing.

[bald]

It's normal that they began to see clearly. Now all the Western and transatlantic lies, one after the other, will surface. The world is changing after being rotten to the ears. Here is the result of a calm expression of concern and at the same time his investigation. Nothing needs to be forgotten and put out toadstools in clean water.

[Heterocapsa]

Yes, everyone knows and understands everything, just everyone plays roles and hides behind masks. Not everyone can openly send a gop company.

[bald]

It is clear that the point is still playing. Let them slowly decide while looking at each other. Well, it just can’t go on like this.

[Phil77]

There is something to respect! For objectivity!

[Grigory b]

The Malaysians are great, they know whose cat ate the meat and who likes Asian liners to put under attack.

[Natalia777]

SUPER! The mood straight raised! So many positive emotions for health!

[APASUS]

I think this will not change anything in the essence of the matter, the points on I have already been placed, the truth will be known in 40-50 years. It is surprising that we were cornered again and we make excuses. But you just had to put this report apart for each paragraph and translate everything into a PR share.
As a result, to propose at the highest level it was OFFICIAL to create a commission of inquiry for all the country, but REFUSAL could say a lot. It is possible to motivate countries after refusal even in court. And so everything in a circle

[Heterocapsa]

It’s impossible to smash it to pieces. The classic Western “we have evidence, but we won’t show it.” The whole world understood that it was a provocation but everyone was playing along. For the time being. But they are already starting to slowly ferment. And it’s not our aggressiveness but diligence bribes to negotiate, and our proposals to act on an equal footing. All this Russophobia will fall apart when Russia pumps up not only military but also economic power. Then they will immediately crawl into our armpits. Strong people will be respected. While the United States is strong, everything is for the United States. But time is changing. The future. for Russia-China and 50-100 years later for India. These are new magnets for the attraction of the future. But this is already happening right now.

[Avis-bis]

Quote: APASUS

the truth will be known in 40-50 years

Doubtful. Since the flight of Hess,> 50 have passed and nothing is known. From what I heard, the Brits extended the secrecy by another 25 years.

[YELLOWSTONE]

Yes, I flew to visit to whom I said to take away, and not the first time

[APASUS]

Quote: Avis-bis

Doubtful. Since the flight of Hess,> 50 have passed and nothing is known. From what I heard, the Brits extended the secrecy by another 25 years.

Was this Hess the question? They extended it for 25 years for the reason that the revealed information with fraud will cause damage now.

[Avis-bis]

Quote: APASUS

Was this Hess the question?

And who was tried in Nuremberg and who was in prison?
But this is not about that. I just said that archives may not be opened "in 40-50" years, as was the case with Hess. Maybe there are still some examples.

[poquello]

Quote: APASUS

As a result, to propose at the highest level it was OFFICIAL to create a commission of inquiry for all the country, but REFUSAL could say a lot. It is possible to motivate countries after refusal even in court. And so everything in a circle

in general, Malaysia can create its own national commission to clarify the circumstances, attract ICAO, Russia and non-interested countries such as China, if it needs it of course

[Avis-bis]

Quote: poquello

attract ICAO, Russia and non-interested countries like China

Without the participating countries (Ukraine and the Netherlands) anyway, you can’t do it. A plane flew from one country, was shot down over another.

[poquello]

Quote: Avis-bis

Quote: poquello

attract ICAO, Russia and non-interested countries like China

Without the participating countries (Ukraine and the Netherlands) anyway, you can’t do it. A plane flew from one country, was shot down over another.

IMHO why not? National Commission with experts, inquiries, etc.

[Avis-bis]

Quote: poquello

IMHO why not?

International practice.

[poquello]

Quote: Avis-bis

International practice.

Quote: poquello

National commission

[Avis-bis]

Quote: poquello

Quote: Avis-bis

International practice.

Quote: poquello

National commission

This national the commission will conduct an "investigation" only on its territory, all of it will be sent by the forest. Or according to international rules, or not at all.

[poquello]

Quote: Avis-bis

Quote: poquello

Quote: Avis-bis

International practice.

Quote: poquello

National commission

This national the commission will conduct an "investigation" only on its territory, all of it will be sent by the forest. Or according to international rules, or not at all.

? I do not think that experts will refuse to help such a commission, the conclusions will be presented to the government, which may well rely on the conclusions of its own commission, and then, referring to it, the government is already at the international level.

[Avis-bis]

Quote: poquello

? I do not think that experts will refuse to help such a commission

I consider, that you are mistaken. The commission you have proposed for anyone will look like it was created in spite of the existing one. No one will have such a thing. A duplication commission can be created, but, again, on the basis of international practice: the producing country, the country of the incident, the country of registration (if not the same as the operating country), the operating country, the operator.

[poquello]

Quote: Avis-bis

will look like created in spite of an existing one.

Malaysia is a country whose citizens have suffered, a country that does not see answers to the questions from the existing commission, and talking about the peak is not appropriate.

[Avis-bis]

Quote: poquello

Malaysia is a country whose citizens have suffered, a country that does not see answers to the questions from the existing commission, and talking about the peak is not appropriate.

But the international law does not care. "Create a national commission - well, turn around as you like. If you want, we will help, if we don’t want to, we will point to the door." Something like this.

[Antares]

The statement of the representative of the Malaysian Cabinet clearly confuses all the cards to those who would like to prove unsubstantiated nonsense as “irrefutable facts of Russia's guilt”. Now sanctions imposed on Anthony Loka?

Source of application
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/no-conc
lusive-evidence-russia-behind-mh17-downing-malays
he-10290266
From what I understood, the report will be in July, that there is no 100% evidence of guilt of the Russian Federation for him (the Malaysian), however, for the Netherlands and Australia, the wine of the Russian Federation has been proved. He also stated that he could not influence the report, because there was no other evidence. If they appear, they will consider it.
From other news of the publication, Malaysia will support the conclusions of the JIT, the opinion of Loke (for Anthony Loka is a completely different person, and this Loke) is private.

[SEER]

Quote: Antares

The statement of the representative of the Malaysian Cabinet clearly confuses all the cards to those who would like to prove unsubstantiated nonsense as “irrefutable facts of Russia's guilt”. Now sanctions imposed on Anthony Loka?

Source of application
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/no-conc
lusive-evidence-russia-behind-mh17-downing-malays
he-10290266
From what I understood, the report will be in July, that there is no 100% evidence of guilt of the Russian Federation for him (the Malaysian), however, for the Netherlands and Australia, the wine of the Russian Federation has been proved. He also stated that he could not influence the report, because there was no other evidence. If they appear, they will consider it.
From other news of the publication, Malaysia will support the conclusions of the JIT, the opinion of Loke (for Anthony Loka is a completely different person, and this Loke) is private.

Is Russia to blame?

[YELLOWSTONE]

he won’t tell why the mark from the Su-25 on the real radar air situation shown to everyone by the RF Ministry of Defense and the Federal Air Transport Agency at 13:21:35 becomes visible, and at 13:20:02 nothing arrives from the east to MH17 (at the time of the defeat)?
why Su-25 cannon test is so similar to MH-17 damage
or from its planet, because of its color and dim diminution, is neither visible at all? and therefore only fuzzy drawn cartoons JIT are quoted

[YELLOWSTONE]

This is not the head of the Ministry of Transport of Malaysia (and a member of the Cabinet), the country whose plane was?
But how can it affect what cartoons the Dutch JIT draws? he is not the boss over them
he expressed his opinion and the position of his country about the unprovenness
regarding other evidence - they are not from the Dutch

[YELLOWSTONE]

on the link about July, this generally applies to another Malaysian Boeing MH370
therefore, they completely misunderstood

[The Siberian barber]

Fun however! ) what now, say "partners", on the statement of the country whose plane was shot down ???
Although ... What a pea, against the wall!

[YELLOWSTONE]

for example, they knock down or bring down another one, did Malaysia lose a little?

[Vard]

True, it always pops up ... A plane was blown up in Scotland ... Gaddafi was blamed ... But it turns out he is not ... Although he pleaded guilty .....

[YELLOWSTONE]

Do not tell the Malaysian minister about Buki himself said something at all, or did Malaysian or Russian journalists themselves add to him again?
it was the Su-25 that was spinning there, didn’t it belong to the Air Force? and the plane so close looked like the Russian presidential.

[Oleg Tolstoy]

Quote: YELLOWSTONE

Do not tell the Malaysian minister about Buki himself said something at all, or did Malaysian or Russian journalists themselves add to him again?
it was the Su-25 that was spinning there, didn’t it belong to the Air Force? and the plane so close looked like the Russian presidential.

Yes sir. This version was studied, and then defended by the so-called "Union of Russian Engineers" .. There, even the cabin of a similar car was experimentally fired from a GSh-23-2 cannon and melee missiles .. The launch of the Buk rocket, which several witnesses photographed on phones most likely was, the accompanying operation of the cover, the main actions of the Su-25 ..

All the previous tragedies are strange events and all the behavior of the functionaries of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Ukrainian authorities after this event, the disappearance of the dispatcher who gave the command to change the route, etc., fake escort videos of the supposedly Separate Buk in the Donetsk region, the barbaric shelling of the wreckage site for many days, the subsequent many-day howl of ukrotrolls indicates that it was carefully planned and prepared. but a failed operation in which traces were noticed ... Especially, a few months earlier, back in May 15th, to the noise of the Donetsk showdown, there was also the Druzhba hockey palace in which the KHL hockey team played (note the Russian international League!) The Donbass (Donetsk) burned out under very strange, “smelly” circumstances, thank God it seems like no victims ... Here donkey ears of the Reichstag arsonists and masters of the giveaway game of the Pearl Harbor battleship stick out

[YELLOWSTONE]

at the request of reporters, the military fired from a cannon at the Lipetsk training range of the Russian Aerospace Forces according to the old L-39s and strangely enough it all coincided
can you look at this beech rocket launch filmed on phones? if it was suddenly about the militia from near Snezhnoye, then later the BBC found a simple fall of grass, although the topsoil had to be cut

[tolmachiev51]

"Secret. Over time, become a reality" !!! - Especially when the clumsy work of performers. Kakly pierced with the journalist and do not understand why this geyropa does not "clap" them.

[ver_]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

af

... not Putin’s hour ...?

[sgr291158]

Slowly but surely the truth floats to the surface.

[LeonidL]

And who doubted that? This is one chain of “probabilistic” evidence and evidence-based “facts” from social networks! It all started with the case of the Litvinenko-Syrian “chemical” attacks for which Russia-Malaysian Boeing-Skripali-Babchenko is also responsible ... but the lies seemed to be sewn in a bag - it will always pop out. ... It pops up, it pops up, but only few in the West will know about it - fake news media will hide such news.

[Oleg Tolstoy]

Quote: cniza

Good day to all! , this topic is for a long time.

From Scum, who are able to kill live 3 citizens of the "most democratic and right country" - a light, we can say. “of all progressive humanity”, who easily gather a sickly, tens of thousands of people, a gang of “bashbuzukov” who again live will cut off the heads of the most democratic and “civilized” white masters who organize disguised terror attacks in Beslan and Dubrovka, you can expect any, the most fantastic abomination!

I would still have the “first bell” of the 1972 Olympics in Munich, thoroughly investigated who organized, financed and set up “Palestinian terrorists” to kill Israeli athletes and other members of the Israeli National Team

[Oleg Tolstoy]

Quote: YELLOWSTONE

Do not tell the Malaysian minister about Buki himself said something at all, or did Malaysian or Russian journalists themselves add to him again?
it was the Su-25 that was spinning there, didn’t it belong to the Air Force? and the plane so close looked like the Russian presidential.

Yes sir. This version was investigated, and then defended by the so-called "Union of Russian Engineers" .. There, even the cabin of a similar vehicle was experimentally fired from a GSh-23-2 gun and melee missiles ..

All the previous tragedies are strange events and all the behavior of the functionaries of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Ukrainian authorities after this event, the disappearance of the dispatcher who gave the command to change the route, etc., fake escort videos of the supposedly Separate Buk in the Donetsk region, the barbaric shelling of the wreckage site for many days, the subsequent many-day howl of ukrotrolls indicates that it was carefully planned and prepared. but a failed operation in which traces were noticed ... Moreover, a few months earlier, in May 15th, there was also the Druzhba hockey palace in Donetsk in which the KHL hockey team played (note!) Donbass (Donetsk ) burned out under very strange, "smelly" circumstances, thank God it seems to be without sacrifices ... Here the donkey ears of the Reichstag arsonists still stick out!

[Oleg Tolstoy]

Quote: Oleg Tolstoy

Quote: YELLOWSTONE

Do not tell the Malaysian minister about Buki himself said something at all, or did Malaysian or Russian journalists themselves add to him again?
it was the Su-25 that was spinning there, didn’t it belong to the Air Force? and the plane so close looked like the Russian presidential.

Yes sir. This version was studied, and then defended by the so-called "Union of Russian Engineers" .. There, even the cabin of a similar car was experimentally fired from a GSh-23-2 cannon and melee missiles .. The launch of the Buk rocket, which several witnesses photographed on phones most likely was, the accompanying cover operation, the action of the Su-25

All the previous tragedies are strange events and all the behavior of the functionaries of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Ukrainian authorities after this event, the disappearance of the dispatcher who gave the command to change the route, etc., fake escort videos of the supposedly Separate Buk in the Donetsk region, the barbaric shelling of the wreckage site for many days, the subsequent many-day howl of ukrotrolls indicates that it was carefully planned and prepared. but a failed operation in which traces were noticed ... Especially, a few months earlier, back in May 15th, to the noise of the Donetsk showdown, there was also the Druzhba hockey palace in which the KHL hockey team played (note the Russian international League!) Donbass (Donetsk) burned out under very strange, “smelly” circumstances, thank God, it seems, without casualties ... Donkey ears of the Reichstag’s arsonists stick out here!

[ilik54]

Still, drugs that are allowed in the Netherlands, very much affect the mental ability of a person, in particular the mental ability of the Dutch. The Ministry of Health warned. This is so buggy so that for four years they could not separate the grains from the chaff and find out who was to blame!
In the situation with the downed ukro-Bandera slaves of the Boeing, everything is as clear as God's day. There is nothing to talk about anymore - Ukraine is to blame in any case - it has not covered the sky in the area of ​​fighting.
Enough paper scruff, tired!
There is another question - who will be responsible for the crimes of their slaves, slaves are bonded and their masters are known - these are Americans and Germans. So, they should be responsible in full for the arranged bedlam in Ukraine, and not just for the downed plane.
I wonder how the rhetoric of the Americans will unfold when they understand that ultimately the trial of the Boeing MH17 disaster could result in a trial of the United States and its slaves ukro-Bandera?

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Quote: ilik54

I wonder how the rhetoric of the Americans will unfold when they understand that ultimately the trial of the Boeing MH17 disaster could result in a trial of the United States and its slaves ukro-Bandera?

Who are the judges?

[Anchonsha]

All Americans can’t shut up Anthony Loku’s mouth in the case of the crash of a Malaysian Boeing in the Donbass. They will try it naturally, but there will already be followers of such a line to the truth. In addition, victims must receive damages. But not only from Ukraine, but also has the right to demand from the USA that the SBU and the CIA jointly prepared this operation against the plane of our president Putin V.V.