All one hundred rockets flew past. Israel "reported" on the bombing of Syria

The IDF Air Force Commander, Major General Amikam Nurkin, speaking today, 22 May, at the headquarters of the Air Force in Herzliya, at a meeting with 20 Air Force commanders of countries, said that two weeks ago, Israel responded with massive attacks on Iranian military infrastructure in response to Iran’s missile attack on the country’s territory.

The Iranians launched 32 rockets [in the Golan], we intercepted four of them, the rest fell outside Israeli territory. During our retaliatory strike, more than 100 ground-to-air missiles were fired on our aircraft.

- leads the press service of the Israel Defense Forces the words of the commander

Nurkin explained that early in the morning of May 10, Iranian Al-Quds forces launched dozens of missiles along the front lines of the Israel Defense Forces in the Golan Heights. In response, the Israeli air force bombarded several dozen Iranian targets in the Arab Republic.

After the bombing, all the planes of the Israeli Air Force returned safely to their home airfields, attacking Syrian air defense systems, including the latest Russian air defense system, Pantsir and Buki, on the way.

- He said, adding that none of the 100 missiles fired by Syrian air defense systems hit Israeli aircraft.

Recall that on May 10, 2018, Israel launched a massive strike against Syrian territory in response to the alleged attack by Iran on the Golan. Israeli spokesman Jonatan Konrikus then stated that it was a large-scale operation against significant components of the Iranian presence - intelligence, logistics, military bases, warehouses, observation points, and much more.

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[vkl.47]

"6 bullets to the head ..... the brain is not affected"

[Andrey Yuryevich]

not surprising, everyone says so.

[Safevi]

"6 bullets to the head ..... the brain is not affected"
are there fragments of the "brain"? if not, the Israeli is right. They then showed the defeat of the "Shell" and "Hurricane", and the Syrians except blah blah blah could not show anything

[PVOSV]

Well, think about those with your own large fragment of the “brain”))) whether after the February events the Israelis will enter the affected area of ​​the Buk M2E air defense system - 45 km in range and the Pantsir air defense system - 20 km. or prefer to strike from the airspace of neighboring ATS states?
and the launch automation equipment will not allow launching a missile at a target outside the affected area.
so that the star’s there on both sides, yeah 100 missiles were

[Scalpel]

Will allow. At one time, Raspletin himself asked that there be an opportunity to "scare" the enemy.

[sivuch]

this is the 75th. As with others, the issue is very controversial

[Shurik70]

The Syrians themselves say they shot down missiles. And half shot down.
About "one hundred missiles on airplanes," says only Israel. And, by the way, this explains exactly that the blows were inflicted not only on the Iranians, but also on the Syrians.

[Pivot]

Yes, Jews considered flares to march.

[PVOSV]

what complexes will not allow you to say?
the time to "scare" the enemy has passed.

[Buffet]

The Israelis have their own EW funds. So, of course, not a hundred missiles, but one should not exclude the possibility that the Syrian air defense systems really smeared.

[hrych]

Quote: PVOSV

the zone of destruction of the Buk M2E air defense system is 45 km in range and the Pantsir air defense system is 20 km.

Well so

along the way, attacking Syrian air defense systems, including the latest Russian air defense systems "Shell" and "Buki"

Concerts were given along the way. With great success

[76SSSR]

And how does this confirm the launch of 100 rockets?

[Mestny]

Exactly.
here not so long ago, citizens of one well-known country massively hysteria, limping on the letter "r", that the Russian Defense Ministry did not show the wreckage of all the shot down missiles. which means lying.
Now the time has come to similarly ask them - "where is the photo of the wreckage of 100 downed or fallen missiles?"

[Totah155]

Quote: Mestny

Now

And didn’t you think that they fell in Syria?

[the lord]

If you didn’t attack in Syria, then the fragments should not be there - they shot at yours.

[In h]

What did they show? Everyone yells that he has longer and thicker ..but does not show ... WHAT.

[yehat]

showed the defeat of the "Shell"

You are pathetic. showed the defeat of the shell, which expended ammunition, disconnected, without a crew and on the stage. It is said with such pathos, but in fact, victory is worthless.
I don’t understand why Israel attacks Iran so much, but I learned a little to recognize
people stupidly and thoughtlessly repeating other people's memes and not having the brain to say something of their own.

[yehat]

there is a cardinal difference between f16 and the shell
firstly, an aviation attack is usually chosen by the owner of the aircraft, it is planned and often sudden. To bring down an airplane in such conditions is already a great success, no matter how the pilot is quirky. And the carapace is in a passive expectation of an attack.
secondly, the cost is not comparable. A plane is much more expensive, and a pilot is also more valuable. Therefore, no matter how stupid the plane and its pilot looked, their downing is a real and valuable victory.
thirdly, the shell does not strike at the capital of Israel and does not threaten this country at all. A downing f-16 is minus one aggressor.

about Iran - what they say is of little concern to me. It is important what they do. If all the missiles that Ki Jong-un spoke about fell to the United States, there would already be a great strait of Mexico. In reality, Israel unilaterally inflicts unprovoked attacks on Iranian forces, and on foreign Syrian territory, hitting local ones. These are real actions that are difficult to interpret as state terrorism.

[kit88]

safely returned to the base airfields, on the way attacking Syrian air defense systems, including the latest Russian air defense systems "Shell" and "Buki"

Something was recalled:

... knock the Crimean khan from the Izyumsky hat ... and let Kazan take on the way back ...

We have the whole country laughing.

[Leonardo da Vinci]

The one who laughs last laughs well. So the Israelis had a good laugh. But laughter without a reason, as you know the sign ... whom? You know it yourself.

[Vagabond]

Out of place you remembered it.

But I recalled how in 1982, Israel in a couple of days destroyed the entire Soviet-Syrian air defense of the Syrian forces in the Bekaa Valley. ALL - this is in the full sense of the word

Or I remembered July 30, 1970, when in an air battle over the Suez Canal, Israeli aircraft shot down 5 Soviet MIGs without incurring casualties.


But laughter for no reason is a sign of fooling around. This is evidenced by the old Russian proverb.

[xboct84]

The Israelis shot down 5 mobs. Only negotiate to the end. At the same time, they themselves lost 50 aircraft.

[YELLOWSTONE]

Well, not at the same time, but before and then
and they also lost their excuses on which the USSR did not supply Arabs with air-to-air missiles from the radar seeker and did not use such ones in the region

[Leonardo da Vinci]

This figure is not true. The Israelis did not nearly lose 50 aircraft there. I don’t remember the exact number, but I know that during the War of Depletion of 1969-70, they lost less than 15 aircraft. But Soviet air defense systems also had significant losses. There were even casualties among senior officers, down to the colonel.

[bazzbazz]

Everyone jokes and says that Israel is lying), and if you think about it. Let the Syrians fired not 100 missiles, but 2 times less. And the same Shell indicates that at least he shot completely! No one reported downed aircraft. But Israel still bombed. So the effectiveness of Syrian air defense, in this case was equal to 0 in relation to aircraft!
like it or not, and the chosen ones fly almost calmly there, unfortunately! It is necessary to supply with 300 Syrians

[g1v2]

Yeah. Only a couple of BUT. Israel launched rockets from abroad Syria. Mostly over Lebanon. Carapace range s1 - 30 km. Beech m1 - in the region of 45 km. They didn’t shoot at the planes, but at the cr which these missiles fired at tactical ground-to-ground missiles. Israeli planes did not enter their affected area and therefore no one shot at them. Including the press service of the Israeli Defense Ministry as always gives half the truth. It seems they didn’t lie, but like nonsense. Which, in principle, is normal - they have such a job.
How effectively did Syria defend its air assets? Well, in principle, it's normal - it was shot down in the region of half of the flying missiles. The rest just sold air defense. The same shell was destroyed when he shot all the rockets and was waiting for reload. In fact, it’s not so difficult to push any air defense — you just need to launch more missiles than it can intercept. This is what happened. And by the way, in my opinion, one of the destroyed Shell and rszo with a couple of small depots is not something to brag about with such a blow. But of course, compared with the American strike - heaven and earth. You can lift your nose in front of the Yankees. Here is just one thing. When the Americans fired, our a50 hung in the air. And now - we did not intervene.
I was more interested in the Syrian strike. To begin with, the Persians have nothing to do with it - the Syrians beat it. 4 out of 32 missiles shot down? Why so little? Didn’t fall in the territory of Israel? And then where? At RSZO, the range is limited - it will not fly to America. And then one of two things. Or a Syrian strike was on the positions of militants in Syria, and 4 PCs just accidentally flew to the Israeli side. Or Israeli officials baw like Trotsky.

[bazzbazz]

I agree, I did not talk about rockets. Only about airplanes. Therefore, we need C 300

[g1v2]

C300 is a political issue. We do not want to get into the confrontation between Iran and the Israel-Saudi Arabia alliance. We have interests in cooperation with all three. We benefit from relationships with all three parties. If we take sides, we will quarrel with the others.
Israel is, for starters, a legal way to get technology. In the 90s, when the empire was falling apart, we lagged behind in some directions. For example, for the same drones. Of course, you could try to do everything yourself. But in practice it usually looks like this. First, a model would be unsuitable for use. The next one, where mistakes would be taken into account, is 10 years behind the world level. And only models with 4-5 we would get something comparable to the modern level. It would take at least 5 years. Well, so are Iran and the DPRK. We bought sercher from Israel, localized and finalized them in Outpost and got a modern drone right away. And they began deliveries to the troops, sharply increasing the number of drones in the sun. And then, starting from this level and understanding the principles, they began to build their own. In principle, they could have already abandoned outposts, but if the Israeli company does not get its profit, then they will not sell any more technologies to us. Technology exports should be beneficial to both parties. The Chinese method of buying a couple of pieces to disassemble for us does not work.
And secondly, we need Israel’s position on the Ukrainian issue. Jews recognized as the main victims of the Nazis. Israel has built most of its foreign policy against the denial of the Holocaust. In addition, Jews have always been influential in Ukraine. Many of them have Israeli passports. The same Kolomoisky for example. Who knows what is hidden by Waltzman or Groisman? PM Israel has influence there. Netanyahu is not in vain that he put the St. George ribbon on May 9th. And many bombed on an independent one from this, too, not weakly. This is a public statement of position on the Ukrainian issue. The St. George ribbon in recent years has become a symbol of citizenship and which side a person takes. No wonder the Nazis are ready to kill for the St. George ribbon. Most likely the position of Israel on the Ukrainian issue is the result of bargaining. Immediately after Netanyahu demonstrated his position by putting on a St. George ribbon and standing next to Putin at the May 9th celebration, Putin announced that there would be no supply of 300 to Syrians. All these questions are interconnected and nothing is considered separately from the other.

[Saint George]

On the issue with Ukraine, we not only do not need Israel, but will not help either. The West will scold Ukrainians and forgive. With Ukraine, as with any other world fascism, Russia must fight on its own, just as our ancestors did. Otherwise, we will lose the glory of the victors of fascism, which actually has already happened in the Baltic countries and the former Warsaw Pact. In addition, Israel spits on our patents when it upgrades our technology to other countries. This is clearly seen in India. Therefore, technologically, Israel does more harm than good.

[yehat]

Quote: g1v2

Jews recognized as main victims of the Nazis

The main victims of the Nazis are not Jews, but the peoples of the USSR.
total losses of more than 28 million, huge destruction of infrastructure and the economy.
we should learn from the Jews to uphold the historical truth.

[Dart]

I have similar thoughts, I agree.

[Alber]

Quote: g1v2

Israeli officials shout like Trotsky.

The country is like that. And such a people. All the time like Trotsky ...

[Leonardo da Vinci]

The attitude of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation is even more skeptical.

[Do not care]

Quote: g1v2

... Well, in principle, it's normal - it was shot down in the region of half of the flying missiles. ....

Anecdote in the topic:

[g1v2]

Of course of course. We all remember. All of your 75 missiles hit one strategic barn. We don’t argue.

[Leonardo da Vinci]

And what, on planes over Lebanon is forbidden to shoot? If they could, then they would shoot. In addition, Syria has a MiG-29. Why do not the Syrians use them to intercept? And not all missile launches were from Lebanon. There were Israeli air raids in the airspace of Syria itself, but apart from one accidentally shot down F-16 (due to the fault of the pilot himself - all the other planes that were nearby successfully escaped defeat by the Syrian air defense systems, only having gone to a low altitude) there were no more shot downs - neither before nor after.
About half of the shot down Israeli missiles - the Syrians are lying. The reports themselves admit from there that the Iranians and Syrians suffered heavy losses, which would not have happened if more than half of their missiles were shot down. The Israelis report that none of their rockets were shot down at all, and that seems more like the truth. They even suggest something - their electronic warfare systems created false targets for which the Syrians fired and allegedly "shot down." The Syrian attack on the Golan - 32 missiles were fired. And four of them were shot down by Israeli air defense systems, and the rest fell on Syrian territory, not reaching their goals. Why not fly - it's hard to say. Looks like something was wrong. In any case, this was stated by the Israeli Air Force commander at a conference with the air force commanders of 4 countries to whom he would not lie - not those people who can hang noodles on their ears.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Leonardo da Vinci

Syrian strike on the Golan - 32 missiles fired. And four of them were shot down by Israeli air defense systems, and the rest fell on Syrian territory, not reaching their goals. Why not fly - it's hard to say. Looks like something was wrong.

And to assume that the Syrians fired at targets located on the territory of Syria, and four missiles accidentally flew into Israel, is not an option?

[76SSSR]

Shell missiles bombed, which planes?

[stasimar]

They fly because they agreed with Russia, which also does not need Iran there. And the unfortunate Syria suffers for all.

[Leonardo da Vinci]

The Israelis strike at Iranian targets and Hezbollah, and against the Syrians only when they shoot at them - in response. They themselves do not initiate.

[Vagabond]

No one will deliver S-300 to Syria. Not only is all the equipment delivered to Syria for free, so much of it (the one that is transferred to Hezbollah units) is destroyed before its first use.
And Israel said that if S-300 is delivered to Syria, it will be forced to destroy them before they are deployed. And he will do it.

And for Russia, the price of war in Syria has long gone beyond the permissible limits.

[Kent0001]

..... although which of the Ajaki Arabs will not be surprised ... the only thing that is doubtful is the number of missiles fired.

[Bad_santa]

Let's say Syrian air defense shot down 10 cruise missiles. The EPR of a rocket is several times smaller than an airplane, the flight path is also noticeably lower. Physical dimensions are also noticeably smaller. So if planes weren’t included in the Syrian air defense zone, then there would be several times more targets hit. There would be casualties, and therefore an open war would be launched. This scenario of Russia and Syria is definitely not necessary. Therefore, in Russia they thoughtlessly thought and decided not to send the S-300 to Syria. Syria does not need air defense with the ability to hit Israeli Air Force aircraft on take-off from airfields. The supply factor of S-300 to Syria is now playing into Russia's hands. This is our one of the trump cards for which you can get something valuable.

[Leonardo da Vinci]

Aircraft are also not so vulnerable to air defense systems - their countermeasures are low-level flight and the use of electronic warfare systems, which jam radar air defense systems and also create false targets.
S-300 (like S-400) can not hit Israeli aircraft on takeoff from airfields for the simple reason that even a surveillance radar at such a range can detect them at a height of at least one and a half kilometers (1500 meters) due to the curvature of the Earth. A firing radar can be aimed at them at all from a distance of no more than 30 km. Therefore, all the talk about the fantastic range of aircraft destruction with the S-300 complex is a lie.

[Strips]

He said something else:

. The IDF is the first army in the world to use F-35 aircraft for attack. According to Norkin, these aircraft were used twice to attack targets in the Middle East.

[Totah155]

Quote: Tiras

He said something else:

. The IDF is the first army in the world to use F-35 aircraft for attack. According to Norkin, these aircraft were used twice to attack targets in the Middle East.

But it was like a real UFO
Until now, no one has said with certainty where and what has arrived.
There were many different versions in the Russian-language media, including missiles from the territory of Jordan, but specifically no one saw anything.

[impostor]

The video on the Shell shows that they are sounding like Trotsky

[Muvka]

And most importantly, I’m all waiting for where the photos are satellite images with the destruction of objects after 70 missiles hit. Apparently I can’t wait.

[Professor]

Quote: impostor

The video on the Shell shows that they are sounding like Trotsky

Right The shell shot down all the planes, but he himself was not injured.

Quote: Muvka

And most importantly, I’m all waiting for where the photos are satellite images with the destruction of objects after 70 missiles hit. Apparently I can’t wait.

Do you want your pictures to be published ONCE AGAIN? You have not considered the first time?

[impostor]

Right The shell shot down all the planes, but he himself was not injured.

Exactly - air-to-ground rocket and ready to fire

[Professor]

Quote: impostor

Right The shell shot down all the planes, but he himself was not injured.

Exactly - air-to-ground rocket and ready to fire

[impostor]

Good girl. Strike Now watch the video on hitting targets with air-to-ground missiles

[sentaniel]

Empty Shell without rockets and without a crew is not surprising to hit))

[Genry]

Quote: professor

Do you want your pictures to be published ONCE AGAIN?

So answering, give links to these pictures. To make it clear what you mean.

[Muvka]

He will not give. Surely.

[Professor]

Quote: Genry

Quote: professor

Do you want your pictures to be published ONCE AGAIN?

So answering, give links to these pictures. To make it clear what you mean.

Links to satellite photos or to photos from the earth? Both are freely available.

[Muvka]

Well then give us. We are all waiting.

[Genry]

Quote: professor

Links to satellite photos or to photos from the earth? Both are freely available.

Up to this point, it seemed to me that you were trying to argue that "the truth would triumph." And then pure trollism. Like - I blurted out, but you prove to yourself ...

[Dart2027]

Quote: professor

Both are freely available.

And where exactly?

[Muvka]

Tell me, do you honestly believe that the Shell launched rockets on airplanes? Let's debate. Do not disappear only.

[Leonardo da Vinci]

Of course I did. Otherwise, why was it empty? Maybe not on the plane that destroyed him, but shot on other planes - and to no avail.

[Vlad.by]

Quote: Leonardo da Vinci

Of course I did. Otherwise, why was it empty? Maybe not on the plane that destroyed him, but shot on other planes - and to no avail.

Again nonsense!
Not only that, airplanes did not enter the ZP of the Shell, and he couldn’t physically shoot at them, but he was also destroyed not from the air, but from the ground.
Bullshit, this is your signature dish, how do I look?

[Merold]

Quote: professor

Quote: Muvka

And most importantly, I’m all waiting for where the photos are satellite images with the destruction of objects after 70 missiles hit. Apparently I can’t wait.

Do you want your pictures to be published ONCE AGAIN? You have not considered the first time?

Well, a man asked for photos from different angles. That would be visible serial numbers, etc. And you slipped him some kind of "bullshit".

[Cat]

Quote: Muvka

Tell me, do you honestly believe that the Shell launched rockets on airplanes? Let's debate. Do not disappear only.

Professor is gone!

[cats]

Quote: Kotischa

Professor is gone!

He only brings a bucket of sewage
why, let others explain ..

[Yuyuka]

Quote: Kotovsky

Quote: Kotischa

Professor is gone!

He only brings a bucket of sewage
why, let others explain ..

maybe followed the fan?

[Strips]

. out of a hundred missiles fired by Syrian air defense, not one hit Israeli aircraft.

Apparently, for this reason, Russia does not supply the C300 to Syria ...
Russia does not really want to spoil the reputation of its air defense.

[impostor]

Vita need to go out?

[conservative]

Vitya and the flag must be changed, otherwise it will throw dust in the eyes. Well, not ours, not ours. But on this forum such characters are held in high esteem.

I was surprised directly to your comment) apparently it’s not only boiling with me

[sabakina]

Quote: impostor

Vita need to go out?

Yes. And come tomorrow with your parents!

[q75agent]

then all sorts of professors, arons, etc. will simply disappear, how can we hang noodles for them then about how powerful and not vulnerable they are, and all of Russia’s "rusty trash" and it’s time for us to raise our hands up in front of the West

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: q75agent

then all sorts of professors, arons, etc. will simply disappear, how can we hang noodles for them then about how powerful and not vulnerable they are, and all of Russia’s "rusty trash" and it’s time for us to raise our hands up in front of the West

This is for you on the drum. And right. And don’t read. And only you would be okay.

On Tuesday, May 22, IDF Air Force Commander Major General Amikam Norkin gave details of the incident on the northern border of Israel in the evening of May 9.

Speaking at the international conference of the Air Force commanders, Norkin during his speech at the conference, in which senior officers of the United States, Italy, Austria, Bulgaria, Germany, Belgium, Brazil, India, Vietnam, Canada, France, Croatia and Great Britain take part,
spoke about what is happening on the northern border of Israel. The Air Force commander presented general information about the operation to destroy a nuclear reactor in Syria in 2007.
He also said that the IDF is the first army in the world to use F-35 aircraft to attack.

[q75agent]

I know Norkin, there’s some kind of talk show on NTV, and your authority is that I believe everything straight, your task on the site is clear, propaganda, well, we believe the facts, and they are not visible, except for the video with the shell, not some docs -In the success of your strikes no longer as 11 days so that you can continue to quote your fighter as much as you like: but I think that you're lying

[figwam]

Quote: q75agent

but I think that you're lying

[Vagabond]

Quote: q75agent

I know Norkin, there’s some kind of talk show on NTV, and your authority is that I believe everything straight, your task on the site is clear, propaganda, well, we believe the facts, and they are not visible, except for the video with the shell, not some docs -In the success of your strikes no longer as 11 days so that you can continue to quote your fighter as much as you like: but I think that you're lying

Here, in order not to engage in absurd and empty disputes with all kinds of ignoramuses and halfwits (and there are a lot of such people in the world, in Russia in particular) in Israel there is a principle - not to confirm, not refute or comment on actions like that being discussed. Norkin’s public appearance is a departure from this principle.

And as for the results of this raid on objects in Syria, then everyone interested knows them! And the Syrians involved, and Iranians, and Israelis, and the Russian command. Indeed, all the military operations in Syria are directly led by Russian officers.

By the way, when Israel bombed the Iraqi nuclear reactor in 1981, no one gave any comments, just like in 2007, when it bombed the Syrian nuclear reactor. And in 1969, when on a Christmas night, Israel hijacked 5 missile boats from Cherbourg, no one from the Israeli leadership either confirmed, disproved or commented on this.
And what’s interesting - and no stupid questions like "Prove it !!" did not have.

[helmi8]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Speaking at an international conference of the Air Force commanders, Norkin during a speech at a conference in which senior officers of the United States, Italy, Austria, Bulgaria, Germany, Belgium, Brazil, India, Vietnam, Canada, France, Croatia and Great Britain take part ... ...

I remembered a joke ...
Grandfather at the urologist:
- Son, something my problems with women have begun, I can’t ...
- Father, you are 85 years old, solid age
- I have a neighbor 92, so he says that he walks around the girls
- Well, who's stopping you? And you tell ...

[Mestny]

So what?
Lied, as always.
It is checked repeatedly - Israel always lies totally and for any reason.

[Vagabond]

Nonsense, however.
Life shows that total lies are inherent in today's Russia. She in this business even surpassed the USSR.

[YELLOWSTONE]

specifically like for example?

[Leonardo da Vinci]

Well, in Russia they like to write about their "rusty trash." From there, they respectively respond about the Russian "rusty trash." As it comes around, it will respond.

[sabakina]

Volodya, , because of this troll, I earned a warning, although I wrote in the third person.

[Spike Javelin Touvich]

What uryakat interfere with their iron arguments?

[Squelcher]

Correctly write in quotation marks "iron".

[Mestny]

What uryakat interfere with their iron arguments?

You do not relax there. More heat.
And yours, it’s definitely not iron. So, show off alone.

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: conservative

Hitler also had a different opinion. So he eventually shot himself in the head.

... the Persian wrote that we did not supply the S-300 - and expressed his opinion on this !!!

Quote: conservative

It was necessary to respect another opinion to us more, maybe this guy would not shoot himself in the head

Well, actually, until the age of 41 we were friends with Hitler .... taught them to fly in Lipetsk .... to ride on armored vehicles .... and so on .... or is this news for you?

Quote: conservative

And then I vote for Putin, but here it is considered bad manners.

Yes, we do not care who you vote for - this is not a political site !!!

Quote: conservative

But the essence of the proposal boils down to the fact that the Russians do not like that their air defense is smeared here - well, leave this forum - that you arise here.

no, tovristch .... if they smear now - this should be yelled !!!! not to get 41 years old !!!! and it’s just typed in about seven hundred thousand sofa warriors equipped with hats with earflaps and felt boots .... we will throw everyone and everything .... we must face it and correct what works badly !!!

[conservative]

Well, actually, we were friends with Hitler until 41

Listen, let’s tell these stories to Ukrainians. I don’t have to tell. Friendship and cooperation are different concepts. In cooperation with Germany - we updated the easel park, factories and prepared for war. Taking from cooperation what we need. And we beat Hitler with his machines

Yes, we do not care who you vote for - this is not a political site !!!

Search in your comments on this forum for comments about politics? To quote? Or not worth it?

no, tovristch .... if they smear now - this should be yelled !!

I mean smear with brown substance.

it is necessary to face the truth and correct what works poorly !!!

Does air defense work poorly? I was at the shooting range, I saw, and I liked the tears in the sky. Does not smear. I tell you exactly. And if the first missile misses, then the second gets.

The favorite will miss - they will meet TORs, BUKs and Armor. The guys are only here on the forum, they are cool, they will fight with the Arabs - they will be in our calculation both in the near and in the far - they will not reach.

Yes, and from the airport there will be a problem to fly up. immediately play a hover sound

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: conservative

Search in your comments on this forum for comments about politics? To quote? Or not worth it?

come on, just don’t particularly flood

Quote: conservative

I mean smear with brown substance.

this is rudeness

Quote: conservative

Does air defense work poorly?

so I served in air defense and so what? .... there is always some kind of result .... missiles fly across Syria .... airplanes and where is the result she needs? .... somewhere that closes the sky to the castle?

Quote: conservative

Listen, let’s tell these stories to Ukrainians

did you read that agreement with Germany at all ???, no? then everything (off)

[Dali]

... so I served in air defense and what? ...

When? What systems? TTX, features of these systems?
And then I can also say, just just returned from a mission from Mars? Established hyperspace rockets ...

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: Dali

just returned from a business trip from Mars? Established hyperspace rockets ...

Well, according to the comment, I understand .... on the topic have something to say?

[Mestny]

I read.
You are a troll, it’s political, and no more.

[Merold]

Quote: conservative

In cooperation with Germany - we updated the easel park, factories and prepared for war. Taking from cooperation what we need. And we beat Hitler with his machines

Yes, yes, they bought Krupov machines. Do not tell me at the same time, where did they get spare parts from during the war? Do not know? Why?

[Korax71]

So, most of the machine tools were supplied with mattresses by the British. Germany, Italy and Japan accounted for about a third of all purchased machine tools. Well, and if it’s absolutely critical to look, then the contribution of the mattress to the industrialization of the USSR is more. Look for information on how many enterprises had projects the equipment was built and how it was carried out. then Stalin was personally awarded Albert Kann. And as far as our air defense calculations are concerned in the Arab Republic, there is already work experience. But this situation did not change in a coordinated way.

[ALEXXX1983]

Quote: Tiksi-3

Well, actually, until the age of 41 we were friends with Hitler .... taught them to fly in Lipetsk .... to ride on armored vehicles .... and so on .... or is this news for you?

You are wrong. We were friends with Germany BEFORE fascists coming to power. Then, with the advent of Hitler, relations somewhat cooled and the Germans from Lipetsk went home.

Quote: Tiksi-3

... the Persian wrote that we did not supply the S-300 - and expressed his opinion on this !!!

It follows from his words that ours were afraid to show the world the truth that the S-300 was good for nothing. Apparently, since he writes this - does he have full access to his performance characteristics, or is he just throwing mud at the “black PR”?

Quote: Tiksi-3

no, tovristch .... if they smear now - this should be yelled !!!! not to get 41 years old !!!! and it’s just typed in about seven hundred thousand sofa warriors equipped with hats with earflaps and felt boots .... we will throw everyone and everything .... we must face it and correct what works badly !!!

I'm certainly not a “Hooray-patriot”, but a realist, but from the comments of the “comrade” Tiras, I am also nauseous. He has the opposite extreme, for him everything Russian is a complete d-mo.

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: ALEXXX1983

It follows from his words that ours were afraid to show the world the truth that the S-300 was good for nothing

he didn’t mean it !!!!

Quote: ALEXXX1983

He has the opposite extreme

there is but not much, but that doesn’t mean that you have to behave like in Ukraine .... with facts and figures !!!

[sogdy]

Quote: Tiksi-3

Well, actually, we were friends with Hitler until 41 ...

From 18 to 41 we fought with the Americans, the Japanese, and Manzhou Guo. Apart from the British and other "victorious" trash. So what about "friendship with Hitler" - as one of my friends says, "you have to juggle in the toilet, the process is intimate."

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: sogdy

From 18 to 41 we fought with the Americans

but didn’t fight with Australia or Mexico? .... something became with memory .... when did they or we declared war on them ???

Quote: sogdy

So what about the "friendship with Hitler"

for sure .... we concluded a pact of Molotov-Ribentrop with the Cherchel .... and I forgot ((

[sogdy]

Quote: Tiksi-3

but didn’t fight with Australia or Mexico? .... something became with memory .... when did they or we declared war on them ???

Kamchatka, FER, Lazo, Banevour (better known as the heart of Bonivur), Ungern, Amur, Zeya - do you know such words? Belofins - constant provocations from 18 to 39 years with a wild massacre of 26m. Central Asia - children of captured specialists taught us English. Polish border - Poles, Turks and British.
Do you have a gap in education? Or is it not Russian education?

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: sogdy

Do you have a gap in education? Or is it not Russian education?

where we fought with the Americans ???????

[aquatic]

Quote: Tiksi-3

where we fought with the Americans ???????

do not believe my mother in Russia) google chtoli) or read historical books


“The Americans were remembered for their participation in the looting of the occupied lands. In the north of the country, according to AB Berezkin’s estimates,“ only flax, tow and tow Americans took out 353 409 pounds (including one flax 304 575 pounds. They exported furs, hides, ornamental bones and other goods. ”The head of the Office of the Foreign Affairs Department of the white government of Tchaikovsky, formed in Arkhangelsk, complained on January 11, 1919 to the quartermaster general of the commander-in-chief, that“ after the robbery of the region by the interventionists, there were no sources left for obtaining currency, except for the forest, so what “As far as export goods are concerned, everything that was available in Arkhangelsk in warehouses, and everything that could be of interest to foreigners, was exported by them almost non-currency in the past year for about £ 4.”

In the Far East, the American invaders took out timber, furs, and gold. In addition to outright robbery, US firms received permission from the Kolchak government to conduct trade operations in exchange for loans from the banks of the City Bank and Guarantee Trust. Only one of them, the firm of Eyrington, which received permission to export furs, sent from Vladivostok to the USA 15 730 pounds of wool, 20 407 sheep skins, 10 200 large dry leathers. Everything that was of at least some material value was exported from the Far East and Siberia.

During the intervention, the Americans tried to expand the lands under their control. In the fall of 1918, the interventionists operating in the north of the country (mainly Americans) tried to advance south of Shenkursk. However, on January 24, Soviet troops launched a counterattack on Shenkursk and, capturing it, cut off the Americans' retreat path. The next day, abandoning military equipment, the American units fled north along forest paths. "

[zoolu350]

Quote: Tiksi-3

Well, actually, until the age of 41 we were friends with Hitler .... taught them to fly in Lipetsk .... to ride on armored vehicles .... and so on .... or is this news for you ?.

The USSR was not friends with Hitler, cooperation was conducted with the WEIMAR REPUBLIC.

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: Tiksi-3

Well, actually, we were friends with Hitler until 41.

Well then, how old were you then, dear? Photo, do not show where you are a couple with Aloizych?

[sogdy]

Quote: Tiksi-3

Look at the photo of the parade in Brest .....

Can you name the date or nomen of the newspaper Pravda or Izvestia in which this photograph is printed?
And nothing that the file attributes indicate some discrepancy between resolution and grain? Or have you never seen a photo from film on paper and a raster for newspaper / magazine printing?
The liberal-democratic press is so enchanting! ..

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: sogdy

The liberal-democratic press is so enchanting! ..

Of course not a couple of pseudo-patriotic-communist ..... do not post more stupidity ...

[sogdy]

Quote: Tiksi-3

Of course not a couple of pseudo-patriotic-communist ..... do not post more stupidity ...

Quote: sogdy

And nothing that the file attributes indicate some discrepancy between resolution and grain?

Quote: sogdy

Can you name the date or nomen of the newspaper Pravda or Izvestia in which this photograph is printed?

So what's the point? Or are they only capable of "opinions"?

[Merold]

Quote: conservative

Here they banned almost everyone who is for power.

An interesting interpretation of those who do not know how to reasonably argue their position, but goes on to the personality and insults of the opponent.

[conservative]

An interesting interpretation of those who do not know how to reasonably argue their position, but goes on to the personality and insults of the opponent.

maybe yes. but the essence of this does not change. there remained gardamir and stas157 relatively speaking and "bros" from the coast of the Mediterranean Sea

[Merold]

Quote: conservative

An interesting interpretation of those who do not know how to reasonably argue their position, but goes on to the personality and insults of the opponent.

maybe yes. but the essence of this does not change.

Is changing. It has long been known that a person who has nothing to argue for his position, begins to pass on to the person and call the interlocutor a troll. It immediately becomes clear who is who on the forum.

[Dali]

Quote: Merold

Quote: conservative

An interesting interpretation of those who do not know how to reasonably argue their position, but goes on to the personality and insults of the opponent.

maybe yes. but the essence of this does not change.

Is changing. It has long been known that a person who has nothing to argue for his position, begins to pass on to the person and call the interlocutor a troll. It immediately becomes clear who is who on the forum.

Well ... well ... I read your argument ... it’s called ... you don’t carry bags ... that's all your argument ...

[Merold]

Quote: Dali

Well ... well ... I read your argument ... it’s called ... you don’t carry bags ... that's all your argument ...

Maybe at the same time they read, as I asked a lot of people to confirm their allegations and how after that they immediately "lost interest" in the conversation?
Well, at the same time, an example of how I "... eat not bags tossing and turning"?

[sogdy]

Quote: Merold

many people confirm their allegations

With many, this is pointless. For trolls, from the word to whistle.

[kig]

Quote: conservative

Hitler also had a different opinion. So he eventually shot himself in the head

And the whole world believes that Hitler was poisoned. Probably wrong.

[conservative]

and he poisoned himself with a French baguette. yeah.

Why do you think France won too? That's it.

[sabakina]

This is not an opinion, but a final statement. He wants to express an opinion, let him write for himself, and not for everyone!

[conservative]

This is propaganda. It’s just the other side. I don’t understand why I need her here.

After all, there is RBC, Lenta.ru, Rambler and a bunch of other ... other resources, the same Rain - where I can read about the invulnerable f-35 and about the leaky S-300

And there are bots in the comments too - and Latvians and Ukrainians resentful of reality - and there they also tell their expert opinions in the comments.

In general, I do not understand why this is creeping all over the Russian Internet

[Opera]

Conservative, but they are not interested in the rains and RBC! They already got each other out there! Just imagine, in this way, how this heroic Israeli Norkin would report to our military ?! Yes, all these "well-wishers" would have torn from a scream! And so normal-4 missiles shot down !!! And the rest ?! Flew outside Israel! Like this?! What does it mean?!?! Stop asking anti-Semitic questions !!!! You that do not love Israel ?! Maybe you do not like Jews?!?! Therefore, according to the professor and his friends taxi drivers, you can very accurately navigate, if they appeared here, then Israel has no losses !!!! Absolutely !!!!! Everything flew beyond Israel !!!! Do you not like Jews ?! Well, if Tiras appeared ... then Israel has half as much no losses! And you don’t need to leave the forum because of these gentlemen! You look at it the other way! I’m sincerely glad that such a mossy level of propaganda of our "partners" was shredded!) Yes, and look at the level of supply of material by our military and four-bit leftovers!)))) Well done! Keep it up!

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: sabakina

He wants to express an opinion, let him write for himself, and not for everyone!

it can be addressed to your address .....

[Dali]

Your answer like "samdurak" ...
Ah good argument ...

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: Dali

Your answer like "Samdurak" ... laughing
Ah good argument ..

well, floods and not ham ... and you will be rewarded

[sogdy]

Quote: Tiksi-3

it can be addressed to your address .....

Quote: Tiksi-3

well, floods and not ham ... and you will be rewarded

If a man comes out to my fire at night, I hold the ax closer. And no tolerance. There is no tolerance in the taiga. "This is Russia baby!"

[cats]

Quote: Tiksi-3

on the topic have something to say?

From this tiksi begins ..

Quote: Tiksi-3

this is rudeness

So goes on ..

Quote: Tiksi-3

especially not flood

Quote: Tiksi-3

then everything (off)

And so it ends ..
Pattern.

[figwam]

Quote: Muvka

Maybe enough already stink on the forum? I do not want to see the messages of this stinking troll. Make ignore listings.

We are waiting for + and - then it will be possible to drive trollin.

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: figvam

We are waiting for + and - then it will be possible to drive trollin.

no ... to drive those who have a slightly different opinion on certain topics .... but there are not many trolls like Mikhan

[figwam]

Quote: Tiksi-3

well no...

Yes Yes...

[cats]

Quote: figvam

We are waiting for + and - then it will be possible to drive trollin.

Not a fact .. He has a lot of sympathizers, and even in the administration ..

[SOF]

Quote: Muvka

Maybe enough already stink on the forum? I do not want to see the messages of this stinking troll. Make ignore listings.

... The administration is unlikely to do this, because, as I understand it, "squabbling" is the engine of that business ....

[Snakebyte]

Quote: Muvka

Make ignore listings.

Yes, ignore lists would not hurt. Tired of flipping through the ecstatic praises of the pseudo-patriots.

[Saint George]

And next to nicknames is a counter of the number of users who have banned, so that all new arrivals see the troll level.

[Mestny]

No.
This will be a counter of the number of minors stupid people .. in, which, as you know, crap only in large flocks.

[Mountain shooter]

Connoisseur! Or maybe Nitanyahu asked Putin not to put the S-300 in Syria, because then half of Israel would be under attack?

[Strips]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Nitanyahu asked Putin not to put the S-300 in Syria, because then half of Israel would be under attack?

No, because Israel openly said that Russia could deliver the C300, but if Assad directed it against Israel, Israel would destroy it.

Israel has no choice - it will destroy it in any case if Assad receives the C300 and directs Iran against Israel, and it will be 100% since Assad owes a lot to Iran.

The Russian military will not sit behind the C300, since this does not make sense since the Russian ambassador has already said that Russia only helps Syria in the fight against terrorists, and Syria is not an ally with respect to Syria - Israel - Russia. And Russia is defending its base, etc., but not from Israel, and Russia has shown it many times. And Russia has the C400 there.

Due to the fact that Assad owes Iran, then if he receives the C300, he will have to defend the Iranian troops.

Russia to supply Syria with a debt of C300 to protect Iran, and even after Israel, despite Syrian air defense, shot at dozens of targets for Iranians in Syria and can still ruin Russia's reputation? What for? It makes no sense.

Moreover, Russia in the end does not need Iran in Syria.

[aquatic]

how many words))
Israel in this conflict ENEMY of Russia)) Iran is an ally)

Quote: Tiras

since Israel openly said that Russia could supply the C300

Israel forgot to ask about it) or rather were not going to)) S - 300 ALREADY stand in Syria)
they are controlled by our calculations, and you were clearly told only blow in their direction)))))

but .... drew a red line ... "if you pass them on to the Syrians, then we ....")))
S - 300 in Syria, I’ll probably surprise you, there’s only one general headquarters in Syria) do not have to specify who goes to it? Whatever the calculations, there will be an order from a single center, they will begin to shoot.

don’t be dashing while quiet) it’s better to collect scrap metal on the gollans from your former reconnaissance equipment) while there’s time, and soon the Syrians will be there for scrap you may not get it)

and read carefully what your guide writes to you

the rest fell outside Israeli territory.

these others fell on the gollans ...))))))

[Strips]

Quote: aquatic

Israel forgot to ask about it) or rather were not going to)) S - 300 ALREADY stand in Syria)

As you say.

Quote: aquatic

they are controlled by our calculations, and you were clearly told only blow in their direction)))))

This is reminiscent of the story of the elusive Joe, who is not caught since no one needs him.

You’re trying to threaten, but in fact, Israel doesn’t need to blow towards Russia, which, having a C400, doesn’t

Russian calculations will not protect the Iranians and even Assad, who helps the Iranians and Russia has already shown this many times.

You are trying in theory to push Russia and Israel, but this will not happen.

Quote: aquatic

but .... drew a red line ... "if you pass them on to the Syrians, then we ....")))

That Israel will destroy the C300

Quote: aquatic

don’t be dashing while quiet) it’s better to collect scrap metal on the gollans from your former reconnaissance equipment) while there’s time, and soon the Syrians will be there for scrap you may not get it)

Quote: aquatic

these others fell on the gollans ...))))))

In your dreams it’s possible

[aquatic]

Quote: Tiras

You are trying in theory to push Russia and Israel, but this will not happen.

but not in any way)) and there was no thought)) if you read my previous posts everywhere one thought.

“Stop killing neighbors (Syrians, Palestinians), return the seized territory, pay reparations to the innocently killed, rebuild the demolished houses of the Palestinians and there will be no peace for the world”

Quote: Tiras

That Israel will destroy the C300

why do you destroy the elusive Joe? you still need it yes?

Quote: Tiras

This is reminiscent of the story of the elusive Joe, who is not caught since no one needs him

[Matroskin]

[quote = aquatic] how many words)) Israel is in this conflict ENEMY of Russia)) Iran is an ally) [quote]
You, in my opinion, interpret events incorrectly (the starting point of reasoning is not true). Putin is now trying to act as a peacemaker between Iran and Israel, in order to avoid the use, in the event of a full-scale conflict, of nuclear weapons. But all the recent events in this region say that the war has already begun. And discussions about air defense are trifles, against the background of the coming ...

[aquatic]

Israel is bombing a territory where our military in Syria can easily be, they are directly opposed to our goals.
Israel provided direct military support to the SSA aviation and artillery in southwestern Syria.
Israel took a direct part in the events of 08.08.2008/XNUMX/XNUMX where not only our troops but also peacekeepers died.
so hardly the starting point of reasoning is wrong. If I'm wrong correct) where is the right starting point? where do we start to argue?

About the peacemaker, you are right of course) but a smile with a clenched fist reaches insane is usually faster ...

and since neither Iran nor Israel has nuclear weapons at the moment, so calm down there is no nuclear threat.

[Mestny]

how many words))

I will explain that there the foreign tourist is bursting.
"The Russian C300 is no good, Putin was afraid to put the C300. Because the mighty Israel will easily destroy them."
This is, so to speak, a seed extract from the traditional Israeli verbiage.
Everything as usual. Whatever they write about is necessarily caveman hatred and contempt for Russians and Russia.

[voyaka uh]

"because then half of Israel will be under attack?" ////

It's true. S-300 is very long-range fighting. He is a threat to civilian liners over Tel Aviv.
With regard to the Air Force, he is not so dangerous. He is studied, they know how to fight.

[conservative]

It's true. S-300 is very long-range fighting. He is a threat to civilian liners over Tel Aviv.
With regard to the Air Force, he is not so dangerous. He is studied, they know how to fight.

The warrior is also in his repertoire. S-300 is dangerous for airbases and civilian Boeings - it is not terrible for fighters fighters can dodge

[vovanpain]

Quote: voyaka uh

S-300 is very long-range fighting. He is a threat to civilian liners over Tel Aviv.

Calm down Alexey Batkovich Combat Calculations would not be from Ukraine, there would be no threat to civilian liners.

Quote: voyaka uh

With regard to the Air Force, he is not so dangerous. He is studied, they know how to fight.

There is danger for everyone, both for the Air Force and for air defense.

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: voyaka uh

He is studied, they know how to fight.

on the ground ?? ..... which one was studied? ... the one that the Greeks have? .... well, well .... a hundred-year-old complex you can get around ... and then only on condition of the mountains and airspace of Lebanon ... your fu was able to fill up the s-200 ... generally a dinosaur ....

[Scalpel]

If a sparrow is fired from a cannon, then some number of sparrows may suffer. But overall efficiency is so-so.

[Muvka]

Quote: voyaka uh

"because then half of Israel will be under attack?" ////

It's true. S-300 is very long-range fighting. He is a threat to civilian liners over Tel Aviv.
With regard to the Air Force, he is not so dangerous. He is studied, they know how to fight.

With the S-300 you can fight, but with the S-200 you can not? It's funny Himself not funny?)

[farcop]

Quote: Muvka

With the S-300 you can fight, but with the S-200 you can not? It's funny Himself not funny?)

That's ridiculously so funny, hundreds of raids, hundreds of bombings, thousands of raid hours, and ONE plane is hurt. What a success. And this is against a country with no analogs in the universal and anti-aircraft defense. Now consider how many Russian aircraft and others have already fallen? How many pilots died? And those who resist Assad do not have numbing equalities in the universal and anti-air defense. Generally no air defense. Ale, where are you broadcasting from?

[Muvka]

So before, they didn’t open fire on planes. And of course to call the S-200 super weapons at the moment ... You would have to heal ..

[farcop]

Quote: Muvka

And of course to call the S-200 super weapons now ...

All that has been done in Russia has no analogue in this world of light is unknown to you?

Quote: Muvka

Would you heal

I understand that only such a prism is subject to a sick person. What are you treated for, if not secret?
And you did not answer:

Now consider how many Russian aircraft and others have already fallen? How many pilots died? And those who resist Assad do not have numbing equalities in the universal and anti-air defense. Generally no air defense. Ale, where are you broadcasting from?

[aquatic]

There is no air defense, but there are NATO aircraft, NATO and Israeli intelligence and guidance. Do you really think that shepherds on carts are fighting against the Syrians there? The tops of ISIS almost in full force underwent special training in American camps in Iraq, this is open information. American and Israeli aviation have repeatedly supported the ISIS offensive from the air), and both of them are illegally located on the territory of a sovereign state and openly demand to overthrow the government)) You didn’t know all this, huh? Where do you broadcast from you there hide it huh?

[farcop]

Quote: aquatic

Top ISIS practically

Trained in Soviet institutions. This is all known and does not make sense.

[aquatic]

correctly passed in Soviet institutions, where they were taught to fight, after which they served in the Iraqi army ..... then the Americans came and in American camps taught them to cut their heads and kill civilians, that’s the difference in education. and everyone knows and does not deny it.

[voyaka uh]

When the pilots clap their ears and don’t look at the instruments,
and passionate about the goals on earth, then from the S-75 you can shoot down.

[ultra]

Quote: voyaka uh

. He is a threat to civilian liners over Tel Aviv.

Well, of course, it was Iran that shot down its airbus over the bay and over the Mediterranean Sea in 88! On February 21, 1973, on the Sinai Peninsula in the vicinity of Ismailia, a Libyan Arab Airlines Boeing 727-224 crashed as a result of an attack by Israeli air force fighters.27 June 1980, flight 870 of the Italian airline Aerolinee Itavia was shot down between the cities of Bologna and Palermo.

[cats]

Quote: voyaka uh

It's true. S-300 is very long-range fighting. He is a threat to civilian liners over Tel Aviv.
With regard to the Air Force, he is not so dangerous. He is studied, they know how to fight.

I think if they decide to deliver, then this will not be your headache ..
After such a decision, you will need a new homeland ..

[sogdy]

Quote: voyaka uh

It's true. S-300 is very long-range fighting. He is a threat to civilian liners over Tel Aviv.

Have you eaten the C400? Ate. And yet you have against C300, subordinate to the coordination complex C400? In C300, in contrast to C200, the _limits_ of defeat are already set, and not just the range.
You just got divorced from scratch (because "on the chaff" you do not understand).

[Dormidont]

Apparently, for this reason, Russia does not supply the S300 to Syria ..

In order to avoid accusations of anti-Semitism

[solzh]

The reputation of Russian air defense is beyond praise. Our air defense proved to be excellent, from Vietnam to Syria. And what did the Western air defense show itself to be?

Quote: Muvka

Maybe enough already stink on the forum? I do not want to see the messages of this stinking troll. Make ignore listings.

I fully support your requirement.

[Hole puncher]

Quote: solzh

And what did the Western air defense show itself to be?

If you are talking about an air defense system, then Patriot is shooting down Hussite TBRs, but about aviation, the Americans shot down a Syrian plane, Russian Turks.

[Muvka]

Quote: Puncher

Quote: solzh

And what did the Western air defense show itself to be?

If you are talking about an air defense system, then Patriot is shooting down Hussite TBRs, but about aviation, the Americans shot down a Syrian plane, Russian Turks.

When did this Turkish air defense bring down a Russian plane? Remind me, otherwise I forgot something. And yes, how patriots bring down BRs - that’s another mockery.

[Hole puncher]

Quote: Muvka

When did this Turkish air defense bring down a Russian plane?

Turkish F16 shot down the Russian Su24, have you forgotten already?

Quote: Muvka

And yes, how patriots bring down BRs - that’s another mockery.

If this is a laughing stock, then what is the C300 / 400 not knocking anything?

[Muvka]

Is the F-16 air defense? But I was stupid thinking that this is a fighter.

[Scalpel]

Do you know the term aviation defense? What did the Su-15 do or are they now the MiG-31?

[Muvka]

Actually, in the context of the topic, ground-based air defense systems are meant. And the F-16 is generally out of place. At this rate and means of electronic warfare can be called air defense. And even tanks. But it will be nonsense. Even ICBMs are obtained.

[Hole puncher]

Quote: Muvka

Actually, in the context of the topic, ground-based air defense systems are meant.

You doubted the effectiveness of foreign air defense systems, I gave examples of both ground-based and airborne systems. You can compare with the air defense systems of the Russian Federation and draw a conclusion on the effectiveness.

[sogdy]

Quote: Puncher

You doubted the effectiveness of foreign air defense systems, I gave examples of both ground-based and airborne systems.

F-16 never belonged to air defense systems. He was born as a frontline.
First of all, air defense systems are nowadays distinguished by the recognition of the target "friend-stranger-outsider." And can not be applied against _undefined_ goals. Moreover, against the prohibited.
At the moment, Syria does not conduct direct military operations with Israel. And even, unlike Israel, it is not at war with Israel. As indicated by Syria initially, it would have been satisfied with joint control at threatening heights, from which shellings of Syria by "unidentified persons of unknown identity" are still being carried out. For otherwise the owner of the territory - Israel is responsible for the shelling.

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: sogdy

Air defense systems, first of all, in our time, are distinguished by the recognition of the target "friend-stranger-outsider"

... kapets ... well, connoisseur .... well, special miracle ....

[sivuch]

Turkish F-16 related to air defense?

[Scalpel]

I do not know. But actually carried out interception at the border, performing the function of air defense.

[Muvka]

Quote: Scalpel

I do not know. But actually carried out interception at the border, performing the function of air defense.

And if the ICBM hits the NATO airfield in the Baltic near our borders, will it also be considered a means of air defense? Only honestly.

[Hole puncher]

Quote: Muvka

And if the ICBM hits the NATO airfield in the Baltic near our borders, will it also be considered a means of air defense? Only honestly.

To be honest, your question is really terribly stupid.

[sogdy]

Quote: Scalpel

carried out interception at the border, performing the function of air defense.

or border guard? Not everything on the border and in the air is air defense.
By the way, the aircraft was calculated primarily by the fact that it should not have been there. It turned out to be more difficult to calculate the pilot. He was hidden under another violation.

[Hole puncher]

Quote: sivuch

Turkish F-16 related to air defense?

Fulfilled the function of an air defense fighter, what angers you so much?

[Hole puncher]

Quote: Muvka

Is the F-16 air defense? But I was stupid thinking that this is a fighter.

The fact that you admitted your stupidity characterizes you as a sane person, in connection with which I explain that air defense includes several components, the main one is air defense aircraft, then ground-based weapons including anti-aircraft missile systems. The task of aviation air defense is the disruption of an organized air attack, the air defense system does not allow the penetrating enemy aircraft to inflict a strike on the protected object. In addition, air defense aviation protects the country's border in the air, preventing foreign aircraft from invading the airspace without permission. As the pilot F16 did, at least his actions were interpreted in this way.

[aquatic]

Quote: Puncher

Turkish F16 shot down the Russian Su24, have you forgotten already?

not forgotten.
F-16 yes Turkish and this also means NATO. the headquarters of the NATO grouping which includes the Turkish Air Force in general, if not mistaken, are in Italy. Excuse NATO on the side of the bearded, but NATO seems to be in order with air defense?

[sivuch]

Moreover, in 2003, the American Patriots shot down 2 Allied planes, and the American Air Force hollowed out only 1 Patriot. So 2: 1 in favor of SAM

[brigadier]

I fully support your requirement.

The forum will die ... Articles / topics where there are no representatives of opinions other than the line of the party gain 30 comments, at the same time, topics where representatives of foreign countries write and, what to do, not all foreigners speak Russian, but mostly former Soviet, most of them living in Israel, always type well for a hundred comments and often much more.
It will be boring, young lady!

[Strips]

Quote: solzh

Our air defense proved to be excellent, from Vietnam to Syria

In confrontation with whom?

When was the last time air defense of Russian production was used against strong opponents with the latest missiles, even the latest aircraft, electronic warfare, UAV and so on, and with what success?

[sivuch]

SW adon Kukuruza, your last post reveals complete ignorance of military history.

[Snakebyte]

Quote: solzh

Our air defense proved to be excellent, from Vietnam to Syria.

And what has she proven herself in Vietnam?
Everyone remembers the initial successes, but they forget that a year later, 15 starts were required for one defeat.

[sivuch]

And then the number of zurkas per 1 shot down again decreased. So they lived

[Vagabond]

[quote = solzh] The reputation of Russian air defense is beyond praise. Our air defense proved to be excellent, from Vietnam to Syria. And what did the Western air defense show itself to be?
[quote = Muvka. [/ quote]

You do not praise yourself, no one praises.
You recall how in 1982, Israel destroyed the entire Soviet-Syrian air defense in Lebanon.
This was called Operation Medvedka.

[sivuch]

It is Syrian. But if you want technical analysis, and not dashing statements, how cool we are (this applies to both sides), then you need to look for another forum

[NEXUS]

Quote: Tiras

Apparently, for this reason, Russia does not supply the S300 to Syria ..

And before you write nonsense, thinking is not fate? Or is it more important for you to throw it on a fan rather?
Israel clearly indicated that they would not like the transfer of S-300 systems to its borders. The question is why the Russian Federation spoil relations with Israel? We need to end the war in Syria rather than complicate it to the limit. Let's have a snack with the Jews, Turks and in Syria, the war will continue forever. And people like you will be scribbling posts that Russia got a second Afghanistan.

Quote: Tiras

Russia does not really want to spoil the reputation of its air defense.

Dear, small and medium range air defense systems have already shown their effectiveness. A showdown between Iran and Israel should not concern us. We have other tasks in Syria.

[aquatic]

unfortunately this is not a showdown between Iran and Israel, this is our showdown either.
and stand aside will not work.

[NEXUS]

Quote: aquatic

unfortunately this is not a showdown between Iran and Israel, this is our showdown either.

Seriously? The Golan turns out to be Russian interest ... what is the essence of OUR interest in this fuss?

[aquatic]

Quote: NEXUS

The question is why the Russian Federation spoil relations with Israel?

Quote: NEXUS

Golan turns out to be Russian interest.

for you, the question of the Dutch and "spoil relations with Israel" is the same thing?))

the point is dear NEXUS that one of the authors, initiators, active participants and in the event of ISIS victory, the main beneficiaries of the war in Syria are the tops of the Jewish state, if Russia for some reason decided that this state of affairs does not suit her and intervened in the conflict, it bears losses , and Israel continues to say until now that we do not need the Syrian government, ISIS is better, and to confirm these words with missiles and bombing, you can’t determine what the Russian interest is in this situation?))))

[vovanpain]

Quote: Tiras

Apparently, for this reason, Russia does not supply the S300 to Syria ... Russia does not really want to spoil the reputation of its air defense.

Yeah, you’re just such a miracle. Middle Eastern heroes All in one fell swoop seven beatings. Something like the C 300 was announced, so the panic in Israel and the BB soon rushed to a friend Volodya and sat on the right hand in the parade on Red Square and persuaded him not to deliver the “Favorite” to the Syrians, but now there’s a lot of praise. Miracle heroes.

[hrych]

What kind of clumsy, stupid and fat-assed girls who in the first battle will fall into hysteria?

[impostor]

probably star landing

[raw174]

Quote: hrych

What clumsy, stupid and fat-ass girls

Come on! It’s quite such a beautiful and slender girl! Fit and athletic

[voyaka uh]

This is when Viagra is needed, then "clumsy, stupid and fat-assed"
ALL young girls seem.

[Vagabond]

The history of Tsahal still did not know cases of tantrum. But there were many fights.
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[hrych]

Yeah, and the flight from southern Lebanon from Hezbollah, and the defeat in the Second Lebanon War. Like, we retreated, but we won the war, though Olmert’s victorious cabinet resigned. And the first Arab-Israeli wars and the pompous conscripts of our days are not the same thing. They called a cow, that’s it, it’s served, the war will begin, it will fall into a stupor, like most women. For there are heroic units, but most are not capable of it, at least shoot any clips, they pounded then pear, rather, as in the Kama Sutra it’s not a woman’s business, let’s better bake the ribo fish.

[Vagabond]

Nonsense, however! Complete. And about the flight and about the defeat. Tzahal did not have the task of conquering Lebanon. The task was to clear the 20-km zone along the border from Hezbollah fighters.
The task was completed, hostilities continued from July 12 to August 14, 2006, when a ceasefire was announced in accordance with a UN Security Council resolution.

[hrych]

Quote: Vagabond

Nonsense, however! Complete. And about the flight and about the defeat. Tzahal did not have the task of conquering Lebanon. The task was to clear the 20-km zone along the border from Hezbollah fighters.

So Olmert probably justified himself But not a ride

[q75agent]

let them come to Gorky Park on August 2, mark them down and take away their weapons, and show girls night Moscow but alimony then let the Beni government pay

[taiga2018]

Israel reported on the results of air support for terrorists in Syria ...

[Warrior with machine gun]

you won’t get it in any other way, and most importantly no consequences.

[svp67]

During our retaliatory strike, more than 100 ground-to-air missiles were fired at our aircraft

Is it only on airplanes? That’s why I like the Israelis, they won’t tear it off, but they won’t tell the truth ... the air defense shot 100 missiles, but I doubt that they were all fired on carriers, especially since the Israel launched them from long range, and certainly not targets for "Shell" and "Beech", not their range. S-200, these could, but the "Armor" with the "Buk" fired on missiles ...

[Muvka]

That's it. A sane photo with the destruction was not provided. Although before, when their missiles were not shot down, after each strike, after a few days, they laid out the consequences of these attacks. And now something is not. Any sane person will understand why ...

[gaura]

Well, the destroyed shell on all sides showed

[Muvka]

Well, of course it's great. 70 missiles per shell. It's all?

[gaura]

I don’t know, I focused on what happened. For us, the destruction of the Shell is especially inconvenient, nevertheless it is ours, even if the crew is Arabic. Maybe because we weren’t shown anything else, the rest is not for us

[Muvka]

Quote: gaura

I don’t know, I focused on what happened. For us, the destruction of the Shell is especially inconvenient, nevertheless it is ours, even if the crew is Arabic. Maybe because we weren’t shown anything else, the rest is not for us

Nevertheless, 1 missiles in the dry residue were spent on the destruction of 70 Shell?

[Vagabond]

Quote: Muvka

That's it. A sane photo with the destruction was not provided. Although before, when their missiles were not shot down, after each strike, after a few days, they laid out the consequences of these attacks. And now something is not. Any sane person will understand why ...

NONSENSE! Israel has never before confirmed or denied attacks on objects in Syria. This is Tsakhal’s long-standing position: not to confirm or refute such facts.
This is the first time Israel has officially recognized the fact of an attack on the positions of Iranians in Syria and Syrian air defense. For the first time in many years.
And there is absolutely no reason not to trust the data of the General Staff of Israel.
Well, it’s certainly stupid to expect Israeli officials to rush to prove anything about the effectiveness of this attack. This has never been and never will be.
In any case, everyone involved knows everything about this effectiveness, both in Iran and Syria, and in Russia.

[Professor]

Quote: svp67

all the more so since the launches by the Israelis are carried out from a long range, and certainly these are not targets for the Shell and the Buk, not their range. C-200, these could, but the “Armor” with the “Buk” fired at the rockets ...

Norkin said: “We carefully studied what the Iranians are doing in our immediate vicinity. They deployed their forces on the basis of T4, 250 km from the border. From this base, they tried to attack with a drone several months ago. After that, they continued to accumulate weapons at this base, including anti-aircraft systems and missile defense, which we attacked last month".
Are our bombs capable of flying 250 km?

[hrych]

Quote: professor

250 km from the border

Again you are tricking Professor From T4 to the border with Lebanon, which is the Antilivan ridge because of which Israelis dirty about 60 kilometers

[Professor]

Quote: hrych

Quote: professor

250 km from the border

Again you are tricking Professor From T4 to the border with Lebanon, which is the Antilivan ridge because of which Israelis dirty about 60 kilometers

Have you kept a candle to say what exactly is from there? Won Damantsev claims that they came from the east. I was most interested in this:
According to Norkin, the F-35 Adir was used twice in combat.
Your MO stated that the blows were f15 and F-16. F-35 turned out to be invisible?


Norkin is right. From T4 base to Beit Shean about 250 km.
Norkin said: “We carefully studied what the Iranians are doing in our immediate vicinity. They deployed their forces at the base of T4, 250 km from the border. From this base, they tried to attack with a drone several months ago. After that, they continued to accumulate weapons at this base, including anti-aircraft systems and missile defense, which we attacked last month. ”

[Muvka]

Are you serious now? Do I need to give you references to the bombing of Syria from Lebanon? Seriously? If so, then we have nothing to talk about with you.

[hrych]

Quote: professor

Won Damantsev claims that they came from the east. I was most interested in this:

Syria does not have layered air defense unfortunately. Also, the S-200 target illumination radars are already quite outdated, although they can see it for 400 km, they can only be accompanied one goal. And the stealth has nothing to do with it. Therefore, it is relatively easy to attack Syrian targets. There will be a normal radar with a phased array, they will also shoot down. And if the over-the-horizon missile appears, as in the S-400 then you can’t hide behind the Lebanese ridges. But you need an over-the-horizon locator or at least an AWACS plane. While the Syrians and Quds cannot afford it, they are shooting down missiles at the last moment with missile-cannon systems with varying degrees of success.

[Muvka]

Quote: professor

Quote: svp67

all the more so since the launches by the Israelis are carried out from a long range, and certainly these are not targets for the Shell and the Buk, not their range. C-200, these could, but the “Armor” with the “Buk” fired at the rockets ...

Norkin said: “We carefully studied what the Iranians are doing in our immediate vicinity. They deployed their forces on the basis of T4, 250 km from the border. From this base, they tried to attack with a drone several months ago. After that, they continued to accumulate weapons at this base, including anti-aircraft systems and missile defense, which we attacked last month".
Are our bombs capable of flying 250 km?

Hmmm, google map thinks differently. Another lie in the hope that it will not be checked?

[hrych]

Quote: Muvka

Another lie in the hope that it will not be checked?

Quote: hrych

about 60 kilometers

Well, that's not even about 60, but fifty dollars. Well, after all, he threw ten kilometers in favor of the Professor.

[Muvka]

No, there are a little more than a hundred) But definitely not 250.

[hrych]

Quote: Muvka

No, there’s a little over a hundred

Well, not so insulting

[svp67]

Quote: professor

Are our bombs capable of flying 250 km?

The bombs? There are those that can fly, but yours use the ROCKETS.

[_Ugene_]

well, it started, who lied more, with the same success it can be stated that 100 planes were shot down, there is no evidence

[Pacifist]

Storytellers. Directly hearing under obedience. Pour well, it’s straight, like, expensive to listen to. And they didn’t have 100 missiles, and the invulnerable themselves never. The interpretation is interesting, there is only one caveat, who said that air defense missiles were fired at by airplanes? Moreover, the strikes were carried out, for the most part, from the airspace of Lebanon, which once again speaks of the meanness of Tsakhal.

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: Pacifist

who said that air defense missiles fired at planes?

Jews)))

Quote: Pacifist

Moreover, strikes were carried out, for the most part, from Lebanese airspace

I’ll make a comparison here (our air defense in Syria is an American strike aircraft carrier group in the Black Sea) and there and there they will be destroyed without much loss and pretty quickly, in Syria, Jews strike from Lebanese airspace using dead air defense zones, and in the Black Sea to live with an escort carrier - exactly as long as anti-ship missiles fly ...... it all depends on the geography of the theater of operations ... here Lebanon will close the sky for the Jews and everyone ..... sailed .... and the border must be from the barmales to clean and strengthen air defense there ... then we will see who is capable of what

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: Vagabond

You are funny.

and on the topic can you write something? ... although trolling is probably your hobby ..... aless !!!

[Vagabond]

You wrote nonsense on the topic. I drew attention to this. Why are you displeased?

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: Vagabond

You wrote nonsense on the topic

this is from your point of view, and justify? or just blah blah blah .. ?? ...

[Vagabond]

So you have stupidity in every sentence!
Like this one. "Here Lebanon will close the sky for the Jews and all ..... have sailed ...." Here a member will grow up with my grandmother .....

[Professor]

According to the general, total 32 missiles were fired at the Golan, not 20, as previously reported. Moreover, the In subsequent Israeli Air Force attacks, more than 100 anti-aircraft missiles were fired at IDF aircraft.

Norkin continued: “In recent weeks, we have realized that Iranians are sending long-range missiles to Syria, including Hurricane launchers. Hurricane installations were attacked by us north of Damascus. they fired 32 rockets, not 20, as previously reported. "Four rockets were shot down by us - and their wreckage was discovered outside Israeli territory."

Norkin added: “After that, we attacked 20 of Iranian targets on Syrian territory. Unfortunately. Syrian air defense fired over 100 missiles on our aircraft. Soon after the events described, we attacked and blew up the Hamas tunnels dug at a depth of more than 20 meters. ”

Meanwhile, the press of the Resistance Axis continues to maintain that during the May 9 attacks “a new strategic equation was created” and several IDF bases were destroyed. Over Israel, more than 50 missiles were fired.
General Amikam Norkin also announced that Israel was the first country in the world to deploy a fifth-generation F-35 Adir fighter in real-life combat.

Norkin said: “The IDF Air Force in 2018 worked on 700 platforms - combat aircraft and missile defense systems. We flew over 170 thousand hours per year. we were the first in the world to use F-35 for real attacks. ”

According to Norkin, the F-35 Adir was used twice in combat. Norkin stressed. that the Israeli Air Force "operates in all corners of the Middle East."

Norkin added that the Iron Dome and David Sling missile defense systems demonstrate 85% of successful missile interception.

[75 hammer]

And you didn’t think about the hell-us your statements on the forum, just because you lived on our territory for some time and know our language a little ?????????? Still, the “Internet company is pulled up” - your diagnosis, once again I am convinced of this. And by the way, the carriages on this forum are fake, so you may not want to get promoted. Bring "your truth" away from the country to which you owe your existence!

[Normal ok]

Quote: Hammer 75

And you didn’t think about the hell-us your statements on the forum, just because you lived on our territory for some time and know our language a little ??????????

How long have you been on this forum to consider it "your property"?

[75 hammer]

Question from the category, where are you sitting "bro"? And now my question is: why did you become a “Zionist” lawyer? Does the checkbox match?

[brigadier]

Quote: Hammer 75

And you didn’t think about the hell-us your statements on the forum, just because you lived on our territory for some time and know our language a little ?????????? Still, the “Internet company is pulled up” - your diagnosis, once again I am convinced of this. And by the way, the carriages on this forum are fake, so you may not want to get promoted. Bring "your truth" away from the country to which you owe your existence!

The funny thing is that many of the Israelis in this forum know your language better than you native speakers. Personally, I've been from there for almost 30 years, but still somehow ... Yes, and why would you usurp the Russian language? The Russian language - Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, Pushkin - is a world heritage. We simply got it for nothing, without effort - and after all, many people specially teach it, so that Brodsky would, for example, read in the original.

I personally owe my existence to father and mother — and no one else. If you mean the victory of the USSR in the Second World War, then my grandfathers added to this no less than other USSR citizens.

And, most importantly, without us, without the Israelis, the forum will become boring .... maybe even completely wither. The forums are exchanging views, discussion, debate. For this they exist. And if everyone keeps up with the party line? - And to argue something will not work.
So if there are objections to the topic - great.
To ban an opponent is an old Soviet fun and the most powerful argument, but boring.

[75 hammer]

We are ready to miss you! You can even conduct a survey! And leave all your "counterarguments" for a dispute with "your" countrymen, you are not needed here. Go and bow better to PAPA with MOM, and not about Dostoevsky and write about WORLDWIDE. YOUR goal in any "SWAN" dispute, not the truth!

[brigadier]

Comrade under the Cumach flag (why hide your flag?), Let's, let's conduct a survey - who needs who. This is so true on the Internet!

[75 hammer]

You are not my friend! And secondly, before you blame someone, look into your eye!

[brigadier]

Quote: Hammer 75

You are not my friend! And secondly, before you blame someone, look into your eye!

Nobody is blaming you, I'm just interested.
I haven’t received an answer.

And what should I look for in my own eye?

It’s generally unpleasant to communicate with you. Perhaps this is the end.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Hammer 75

We are ready to miss you! You can even conduct a survey! And leave all your "counterarguments" for a dispute with "your" countrymen, you are not needed here. Go and bow better to PAPA with MOM, and not about Dostoevsky and write about WORLDWIDE. YOUR goal in any "SWAN" dispute, not the truth!

Who are "we?

[Vagabond]

Quote: Hammer 75

We are ready to miss you! !

We, by the grace of God, Nicholas II, the king of Poland, the Grand Duke of Finland, the emperor and autocrat of All Russia ..... ???

I wonder why all the limited and ignorant people tend to talk about themselves in the plural.

[75 hammer]

Why do people "unlimited and polite", try to stick out their chest, trying to find in others flaws, to the PSYCHIATRUS! There will be an exact answer to your question in ward No. 6.

[Vagabond]

Quote: Hammer 75

Why do people "unlimited and polite", try to stick out their chest, trying to find in others flaws, to the PSYCHIATRUS! There will be an exact answer to your question in ward No. 6.

What have the flaws? You have no shortage! You have a lack. Lack of basic common sense. And you have stupidity! It is foolish to talk about yourself in the plural.

[75 hammer]

“All people bring happiness: some by their presence, others by their absence” - “We”, a group of members of the forum who are tired of Jewetrols (I’m writing with a mistake). About stupidity: "Do not evaluate the path of another person until you have walked at least a mile in his loafers." The end of the dialogue!

[Opera]

Brigadier, about the party line you tell your compatriots! So Netanyahu trump recently praised at the opening of the embassy in Jerusalem, what I really thought now the star of the hero of Israel Ivanka will hand over for the folder! What Trump party do you remember from ?! And do not forget! About the Russian language, which you supposedly know better than native speakers ... well, maybe you work as a teacher of the Russian language and literature ?! Then of course! But is this forum interesting for you teachers and on which side is the question! I think without individual comrades with white and blue flags who are constantly trying to pry native speakers here and the squabble to arrange a forum will not get bored. Even if he leaves a couple of teachers of the Russian language and maybe even one geography expert with a scientific degree confusing tens of kilometers. territories with hundreds!

[brigadier]

So Netanyahu trump recently praised at the opening of the embassy in Jerusalem, what I thought now is the star of the hero of Israel Ivanka will hand over for the folder

Trump is well done. Already how many presidents promised the embassy in Jerusalem, the capital of Israel, to transfer - but he was honored. Honor and praise to him and many thanks .... the others followed him. The fact that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel is a medical fact, as well as the fact that the earth is round, and only unhealthy people can think otherwise.

As for the teacher of the Russian language. Well, I'm not a teacher, but at one time I graduated from high school with in-depth study of the Russian language and literature. There were those in the USSR. 7 literature lessons and one essay per week in grades 9-10. I love Russian and consider it my native language.
If people with blue-white flags do not agree with the opinion of people with tricolor, this is not a catch - this is an exchange of views that goes into discussion. In any case, it should be so, and it depends on us.
In short, no one will leave here - we will have to endure us.

[Opera]

Read today's comment of your compatriot about how a certain drone shot down near the base of Khmeimim in Chumadan (he wrote so) to earn a medal! If this opinion is such, it would be better for your fellow citizen to keep it with him and not to spread his inflamed fantasies here caused by no doubt many medical facts that took the form of a specific diagnosis! What could be the reaction to such scribble ?! And yet, I agree with you, if Jerusalem is the capital of Israel, then the fact is that it’s medical ... Are you an educated person? Not historical same ?! Regarding Trump, I'm glad that you honestly recognize him as your leader! Don’t be considered rude, but honesty here is clearly a drawback from your fellow countrymen! And you are an honest man! Nice to hear!

[brigadier]

Regarding Trump, I'm glad that you honestly recognize him as your leader!

I did not write this. We have our own leaders - America has its own. America is our most important and reliable ally at this stage, and its current president is pursuing (so far) a policy that suits us. Something like this.
* At the end of Ramadan, the United States must submit its peace plan in BV, including an agreement between Israel and the Palestinians. I don’t know what will happen in this regard, but you have to pay for everything - so the recognition of Jerusalem and the transfer of the embassy can cost Israel a pretty penny, or rather, serious concessions to the Arabs. We will see. Ramadan has just begun. It will last a month. Arabs work until 15:00 - fasting, and in the evening they catch up with them. What would you understand - my company has branches in Ramala and, attention, in Gaza. And all this time that they were buzzing there near the fence (other Arabs were buzzing) - we worked with them as if nothing had happened ... such an oil painting. Gap template.

[123456789]

And do not argue with the "blue-white" - a complete ignore
Then they themselves will leave.

[maykl8]

"Norkin continued:" In recent weeks, we have realized that Iranians are deploying long-range missiles, including Hurricane launchers, to Syria. "
MLRS "Hurricane" - firing range up to 40 km, firing rockets. What are long-range missiles?

"Norkin added that the Iron Dome and David Sling missile defense systems demonstrate 85% of successful missile interception."
If against "Hurricane" missiles, then yes, they demonstrate it.

[Professor]

Quote: maykl8

MLRS "Hurricane" - firing range up to 40 km, firing rockets. What are long-range missiles?

A missile is a missile, and with a hurricane, longer-range missiles were used than we used to.

Quote: maykl8

If against "Hurricane" missiles, then yes, they demonstrate it.

Against all missiles used against us, including improvised Kasamas with an unpredictable flight path.

[maykl8]

The missiles have on-board control equipment (BAU), which directs the missile at the target or in the area of ​​combat use. A shell is an uncontrollable blank. Even if there is corrective equipment on the projectile, it is called "adjustable ammunition", but not a rocket.
Although everything can be different for you.

[Squelcher]

Professor well, so 60 or 250 km?
: "True" and "honest" Are you ours :)?

[Professor]

Quote: Squelcher

Professor well, so 60 or 250 km?

I have already posted the card. There are about 250 km.

[kunstkammer]

along the way, attacking Syrian air defense systems, including the latest Russian air defense systems "Shell" and "Buki"

The next time, our missile-carrying Tu should, along the way, attack the Polish missile defense, delivering a massive blow, including, against the latest American systems.
Is it logical

[aszzz888]

After the bombing, all Israeli air force planes safely returned to the airfields, along the way, attacking Syrian air defense systems, including the latest Russian air defense systems "Shell" and "Buki" [

and also "along the way" went to the toilet directly in the cabin ...

[kunstkammer]

Quote: RomaR

[media]

And why is there no video with the Farewell of the Slav? Is this the same Jewish Cossacks in the desert? They are coming, our Jewish Cossacks are traveling across Berlin!
And for the American Marines, something similar should be bungled ...
Poor Choi, if you knew ....

[Guru]

During our retaliatory strike, more than 100 ground-to-air missiles were fired at our aircraft

HUNDRED ROCKET !!!! ????? !!!!! Now let's figure it out. One hundred missiles from one Shell C and one BUK. The question is how much did you fly there -Week ??? And if not, then how many were the Shell and Buk 100500.
God's chosen ones lied at the end.

[brigadier]

in response to Iran’s alleged blow to the Golan

Allegedly ...
If Israel does not want to report, it does not. And if it reports, then this is 100% true.
It’s not necessary to comb all under your “standards”.

[aszzz888]

brigadir (Mashak Mamterot) Today, 12: 40 And ​​if it reports - then this is 100% true.

... ... no words ... no at all .... some emotions ...

[brigadier]

Quote: aszzz888

brigadir (Mashak Mamterot) Today, 12: 40 And ​​if it reports - then this is 100% true.

... ... no words ... no at all .... some emotions ...

I'm glad you feel so good. By the number of faces - even too much. Be careful with emotions - there was one - he died of joy.

[gaura]

Your holy faith in your talking heads delights! I can’t stop wondering how you are always sure that yours is only telling the truth. We don’t know how to evaluate Putin, but it’s easier for you ... And you believe in tons of evidence of Iran’s development of nuclear weapons, you believe in 100 missiles, and even when your representative said that he didn’t know who actually bombed Syria, but he is ready to bomb again, you again joyfully and militantly hooted him with such correct words.

[brigadier]

Quote: gaura

Your holy faith in your talking heads delights! I can’t stop wondering how you are always sure that yours is only telling the truth. We don’t know how to evaluate Putin, but it’s easier for you ... And you believe in tons of evidence of Iran’s development of nuclear weapons, you believe in 100 missiles, and even when your representative said that he didn’t know who actually bombed Syria, but he is ready to bomb again, you again joyfully and militantly hooted him with such correct words.

We believe, since so far no official representative of the authorities on the nonsense about military operations, strikes, losses has been caught.

[cats]

Quote: brigadir

no losses were caught.

Here you have more faces on this ...

[brigadier]

Quote: Kotovsky

Quote: brigadir

no losses were caught.

Here you have more faces on this ...

The level of discussion just rolls over.
And if they really do not lie ?! Can't you believe it happens? - But it does happen!

[cats]

Quote: brigadir

And if they really do not lie ?! Can't you believe it happens? - But it does happen!

You will never believe that our truth is told ..
Well, if the politician is also a Jew ..

[gaura]

Wait, dear, what is there with evidence of the development of nuclear weapons by Iran? From the news: "Israeli intelligence has received 55 of thousands of pages of nuclear program documents, as well as 55 of thousands of files on 183 CDs." 183 drive? O_o are your megaspecists still writing on CD? buy them flash drives already! But how are they these disks from Iran perley? in your pockets? Of course they don’t lie. I believe

[Amateur]

"Write 40 thousand. Do you feel sorry for the basurman?" A.V. Suvorov

[Business trip]

The Iranians launched 32 missiles [in the Golan], we intercepted four of them, the rest fell outside Israeli territory.

Well past so past. The bride and groom and dear guests probably think differently.

[Muvka]

Thank you for the video. We are looking forward to Israeli commentators. What will they say to him? Just very interesting. If the video is not refuted, then your military man is all the same to you, oh my God, LIE?

[brigadier]

Quote: Traveler

The Iranians launched 32 missiles [in the Golan], we intercepted four of them, the rest fell outside Israeli territory.

Well past so past. The bride and groom and dear guests probably think differently.

Well, yes ... an Arab wedding ... and guests in piles, and an ad in Hebrew ...
This video is a hundred years old at lunch. This is a wedding in Beershev during the "Indestructible Rock".

[Professor]

Quote: Traveler

The Iranians launched 32 missiles [in the Golan], we intercepted four of them, the rest fell outside Israeli territory.

Well past so past. The bride and groom and dear guests probably think differently.

Test video. Here is its original. We look at the date and sit further in the puddle.


"This is Strip, baby."

[Business trip]

Well, I don’t know about the puddles. More informed Jews think differently, "baby":

According to Dr. Nathan Farber, a former senior specialist in the missile division of the Israeli military industry, the entire missile defense system does not meet the declared characteristics and does not work. In a Haaretz article, “The Fallibility of Iron Dome Missile Defense,” Farber writes about the fallacy of the concept itself, and current defensive missile-based policies (Arrow 2, Arrow 3, David Sling, Patriot, and Iron Dome) are fundamentally wrong and will not fulfill their functions. The system inspires a dangerous illusion that Israel is protected from missile attacks. Regarding the interception of ballistic missiles, recent tests have shown 50% system efficiency. After improvements, tests were not carried out, and now there is no need to talk about any kind of efficiency.

If you need a link to the original article, they threw you a "professor" so to speak to increase your "pride".

[Business trip]

Well, I don’t know who is in the pool, but the more informed citizens of Israel know:

"According to Dr. Nathan Farber, a former senior specialist in the missile division of the Israeli military industry, the entire missile defense system does not meet the declared characteristics and does not work. In Haaretz's article," The Fallibility of Iron Dome Missile Defense, "Farber writes about the fallacy of the concept itself, and the current policy, based on defensive missiles (Arrow 2, Arrow 3, David Sling, Patriot and Iron Dome), it is fundamentally wrong and will not fulfill its functions.The system inspires a dangerous illusion that Israel is protected from missile attacks. Regarding the interception of ballistic missiles, recent tests have shown 50 "% system efficiency. After improvements, no tests were carried out, and now there’s no need to talk about any efficiency."

If you need a link, I will provide you, "baby", so to speak, to increase self-esteem.

[danan]

(Eugene)
Regarding Farber, there are always offended or interested people. Farber opposed the Iron Dome concept at the stage of prototype tests.
Further practice proved the effectiveness of the system. There is a Hebrew video on the network, of those that gain a maximum of 100 views, where experts analyze the fallacy of Farber's statements.

[Business trip]

Greetings, danan!
Perhaps you are right, but I wanted to say that Israel should not rely only on an “impenetrable and very effective missile defense system”. Although I think you yourself know this. Just from the side of Israel there is a massive advertising of their missile defense systems. And if someone decides to check it with the same massive missile strike, then perhaps the pro will not be as effective as the advertiser.
This applies to Strela ”(Arrow 2 and Arrow 3), designed to intercept ballistic missiles outside the atmosphere launched from Iran. The Arrow 3 system is completely fresh and quite crude. Her tests began in December 2015 and took place in fairly greenhouse conditions. Here is what the former director of the Israeli missile defense program, Uzi Rubin, said about the system: "The Qualitative military edge (QME) system is a pioneer, which in itself implies the requirement of a large number of tests in harsh combat conditions with massive use of missile weapons and jamming, rather than single tests in comfortable conditions "
Unfortunately, nothing is said about guided missiles that perform evasion maneuvers and jamming, which, judging by the basic conditions and characteristics, the Israeli missile defense will not be able to intercept.
Best regards,

[Leonardo da Vinci]

What about advertising for Russian air defense systems? They, too, are by no means prodigies. Or are you playing here, but not here? Double standarts? In a stranger’s eye and a speck I will coal, but I won’t see logs in my own. So?

[Business trip]

Here will be an article about Russian air defense systems, then we'll talk, dear

[danan]

good morning and you
I believe that the Russian people should be more condescending towards the “outbursts of pride” among the Israelis, because no one really doubts the real balance of power, including Israel itself. Although we have something to be proud of, the ability to conduct dialogue, without infringing on the opponent’s feelings, we don’t pulls out.

[sib.ataman]

Quote: professor

Quote: impostor

Right The shell shot down all the planes, but he himself was not injured.

Exactly - air-to-ground rocket and ready to fire

Do not flatter yourself! The car was with a shot ammunition, with the radar turned off. The crew smoked on the sidelines (photos and comments on the network have already posted a bunch)! Although, .. if there is no other way to amicable, wallow! Even flatter yourself!

[Dali]

Duck them "spit in his eyes, he is the dew of God"

[farcop]

Quote: sib.ataman

Do not flatter yourself!

Do you mean that the Russian Air Force is waiting until they point at them (I don’t know that there are no analogues against them) and only then when the plane or helicopter is captured they open fire?

[cariperpaint]

What does our air force have to do with it?)))))

[maykl8]

It is bad that the machine, after crushing the ammunition, did not go down to the loading area for charging or was not moved to the shelter and disguised before the ammunition was transported. This is the ABC of war. Tear off the legs of the calculation commander and his boss.

[q75agent]

Quote: brigadir

Be careful with emotions - there was one - he died of joy.

you have sorrow one less it became happy

[sib.ataman]

Quote: brigadir

in response to Iran’s alleged blow to the Golan

Allegedly ...
If Israel does not want to report, it does not. And if it reports, then this is 100% true.
It’s not necessary to comb all under your “standards”.

Wai-wai! In what place did they find honest Israel? Especially Prime Minister Natanyahu with 0,5 tons of Iranian nuclear dossier! Straight Theresa May with a new Israeli version!

[brigadier]

Quote: sib.ataman

Quote: brigadir

in response to Iran’s alleged blow to the Golan

Allegedly ...
If Israel does not want to report, it does not. And if it reports, then this is 100% true.
It’s not necessary to comb all under your “standards”.

Wai-wai! In what place did they find honest Israel? Especially Prime Minister Natanyahu with 0,5 tons of Iranian nuclear dossier! Straight Theresa May with a new Israeli version!

And what's wrong with the Iranian nuclear dossier? What's wrong with him?

[Leonardo da Vinci]

Can you refute Netanyahu’s message? You think so? You can think as much as you like. The turkey also thought. And you know where you got it? That's the same. Well, as for the veracity of Israel, it’s more justified than the Russian Defense Ministry and certainly more truthful than the Syrians.

[aquatic]

in general, in a decent society it is customary to prove your words) and not ask for their refutation)

and it’s just like in a joke)) the gentleman is taken for granted)) and then the map fell on ...

[Muvka]

Quote: professor

Quote: Traveler

The Iranians launched 32 missiles [in the Golan], we intercepted four of them, the rest fell outside Israeli territory.

Well past so past. The bride and groom and dear guests probably think differently.

Test video. Here is its original. We look at the date and sit further in the puddle.


"This is Strip, baby."

Good, refuted. And for the rest it’s not worth it)

[sib.ataman]

Quote: maykl8

"Norkin continued:" In recent weeks, we have realized that Iranians are deploying long-range missiles, including Hurricane launchers, to Syria. "
MLRS "Hurricane" - firing range up to 40 km, firing rockets. What are long-range missiles?

"Norkin added that the Iron Dome and David Sling missile defense systems demonstrate 85% of successful missile interception."
If against "Hurricane" missiles, then yes, they demonstrate it.

In the eyes of the "brave man" and the pygmy Goliath!

[Vard]

One moment ... The Israelis fired dozens of missiles ... However, there is no reliable data on the defeat of targets ... Of course, it is difficult to get to the limit of the range of weapons ... And so everyone remained with their ...

[voyaka uh]

Why? there were detailed satellite images of the bombed Iranian base.
Some buildings are completely demolished, some are untouched. Choose important
buildings, of course. There are no funnels from misses. Direct hit.

[sib.ataman]

Quote: brigadir

Quote: Hammer 75

And you didn’t think about the hell-us your statements on the forum, just because you lived on our territory for some time and know our language a little ?????????? Still, the “Internet company is pulled up” - your diagnosis, once again I am convinced of this. And by the way, the carriages on this forum are fake, so you may not want to get promoted. Bring "your truth" away from the country to which you owe your existence!

The funny thing is that many of the Israelis in this forum know your language better than you native speakers. Personally, I've been from there for almost 30 years, but still somehow ... Yes, and why would you usurp the Russian language? The Russian language - Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, Pushkin - is a world heritage. We simply got it for nothing, without effort - and after all, many people specially teach it, so that Brodsky would, for example, read in the original.

I personally owe my existence to father and mother — and no one else. If you mean the victory of the USSR in the Second World War, then my grandfathers added to this no less than other USSR citizens.

And, most importantly, without us, without the Israelis, the forum will become boring .... maybe even completely wither. The forums are exchanging views, discussion, debate. For this they exist. And if everyone keeps up with the party line? - And to argue something will not work.
So if there are objections to the topic - great.
To ban an opponent is an old Soviet fun and the most powerful argument, but boring.

Do you have someone tearing your tongue out that you are so overturned? Like to indulge, so indulge! But essentially in essence (which you yourself require from others!). For some reason, your painful vanity infringes on others! Can you just show it off?

[brigadier]

Quote: sib.ataman

Quote: brigadir

Quote: Hammer 75

And you didn’t think about the hell-us your statements on the forum, just because you lived on our territory for some time and know our language a little ?????????? Still, the “Internet company is pulled up” - your diagnosis, once again I am convinced of this. And by the way, the carriages on this forum are fake, so you may not want to get promoted. Bring "your truth" away from the country to which you owe your existence!

The funny thing is that many of the Israelis in this forum know your language better than you native speakers. Personally, I've been from there for almost 30 years, but still somehow ... Yes, and why would you usurp the Russian language? The Russian language - Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, Pushkin - is a world heritage. We simply got it for nothing, without effort - and after all, many people specially teach it, so that Brodsky would, for example, read in the original.

I personally owe my existence to father and mother — and no one else. If you mean the victory of the USSR in the Second World War, then my grandfathers added to this no less than other USSR citizens.

And, most importantly, without us, without the Israelis, the forum will become boring .... maybe even completely wither. The forums are exchanging views, discussion, debate. For this they exist. And if everyone keeps up with the party line? - And to argue something will not work.
So if there are objections to the topic - great.
To ban an opponent is an old Soviet fun and the most powerful argument, but boring.

Do you have someone tearing your tongue out that you are so overturned? Like to indulge, so indulge! But essentially in essence (which you yourself require from others!). For some reason, your painful vanity infringes on others! Can you just show it off?

Essentially:
The Israeli Air Force bombed in Syria all that they wanted and no air defense could prevent this.
Russian forum participants doubt this, citing the killer argument "You are lying!"

[Lerych]

The Iranians launched 32 rockets [in the Golan], we intercepted four of them, the rest fell outside Israeli territory. During our retaliatory strike, more than 100 ground-to-air missiles were fired on our aircraft.
- The press service of the IDF said the words of the commander. Or didn’t I understand something, or a typo? Israel fired 100 missiles on its planes in a retaliatory strike?

[Leonardo da Vinci]

Naturally, Syrians fired at Israeli planes. From the context, this is perfectly clear. And with the grammar, everything is in order there. Read more carefully and thoughtfully.

[Radical]

Quote: professor

Quote: impostor

The video on the Shell shows that they are sounding like Trotsky

Right The shell shot down all the planes, but he himself was not injured.

Quote: Muvka

And most importantly, I’m all waiting for where the photos are satellite images with the destruction of objects after 70 missiles hit. Apparently I can’t wait.

Do you want your pictures to be published ONCE AGAIN? You have not considered the first time?

And in fact, what is the triumph? To shoot with high-precision ammunition, in a motionless machine that shot the ammunition, in the absence of calculation in their places - not a big "change"! Polygon conditions actually. What boast - “high professionalism, heroism and other isms” of your warriors? So this case does not confirm it in any way! Just the opposite...

[voyaka uh]

It will probably be useful for you to know that ALWAYS do this when attacking air defense systems.
First, they discharge the complex using false targets or flying over it at ineffective destruction distances, and then destroy the empty complex. And the Syrians know about it.
Therefore, they drank coffee at a safe distance from the machine. And, I suppose, they were not very surprised at the incoming rocket.

[Leonardo da Vinci]

And what is the triumph of shooting down an airplane (F-16) when the pilot was distracted and made a mistake?

[YELLOWSTONE]

Is there a system that warns, did it fail or was it attached with electrical tape?

[voyaka uh]

It worked - the pilots overslept.
The second plane dodged missiles.

[YELLOWSTONE]

both pilots overslept at once? the worse that the F-35 is single

[1536]

This is howl in the Middle East since the time of the Odyssey and Illiad. One hundred rockets (spears, arrows, stones, shells, etc.) were fired at the enemy, but did not hit him. The enemy in response struck one catapult (SAM "Shell") out of a thousand, but "won" because he sent a messenger to the Emperor (President, Prime Minister), and he told everyone about the victory. True, he could not repeat his words, because he died. But for centuries, his report on victory remained.
Tired, right word! And both those and these.

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: 1536

Tired, right word. And both those and these.

+ 100 %

[gorenina91]

- Most likely the effectiveness of our "shells", "basalts", "granites" ... and other anti-aircraft and "protective" means ... are too exaggerated ... -I'm not an expert in this field .., but when it’s really detailed shows how our (Syrian or whose it is there) SAM "Shell" was destroyed .., and then also a missile launcher ... then something else doesn’t come to mind ....
Well, this is not a "game shooter" .. where this is possible ...- This "carapace" should protect objects and shoot down enemy attacking missiles .. and he himself can’t protect himself ... -What is left to think about. .?
-And what kind of explanation ..? -Mall this SAM has already managed to shoot all of its ammunition ... -and he had nothing to shoot down flying attacking missiles ... -so who did he manage to shoot everything at ... -where the "results" of his shooting ..?
-Somehow strange and tragic it all looks ...

[voyaka uh]

Missile defense is effective only when it works in conjunction with fighter interceptors. Without them, it is passively and easily deceived in a dozen ways.

[farcop]

Israeli weapons, weapons with the longest explosions. It throws and explodes in the Middle East, and half-detonation occurs among the anti-Semites of all Russia.

[cats]

Quote: farcop

and half-detonation occurs in anti-Semites of all Russia.

If all sorts of towbars hadn’t climbed here to nostalgia,
we would not know about anti-Semites ..

[farcop]

Quote: Kotovsky

we would not know about anti-Semites ..

It’s in your blood. And do not want towbars, leave the Internet.

[Uruska]

Why aren’t the Israelis attacking Iran? Syrians, what should look at this disgrace? It’s a pity that not one plane was shot down! It is time for this bacchanalia to bring an end.

[farcop]

Quote: Uruska

And why don't the Israelis strike at Iran? Syrians, what should look at this disgrace?

Well, the Syrians could ask the Iranians to go home, rather than provoke Israel into strikes.

[cats]

Quote: farcop

Well, the Syrians could ask the Iranians to go home, rather than provoke Israel into strikes.

Well, we ask the Jews to leave the Russian-language resource, not to distribute
here anti-Semitism, but they don’t go away .. Do you want to bomb them? ..

[farcop]

Quote: Kotovsky

Well, we ask the Jews to leave the Russian-language resource, not to distribute
here anti-Semitism, but they don’t go away .. Do you want to bomb them? ..

Anti-Semitism is spread by anti-Semites. Animal anti-Semites. they are human shame.

[cats]

Quote: farcop

Animal anti-Semites. they are human shame.

You don’t lift your nose very much, the halo will fall from the head.

Quote: farcop

Anti-Semitism is spread by anti-Semites.

Then what happens .. You are here present on behalf of the Jews,
each statement increases hatred of the Jews ..
Hitch, you are anti-Semite .. Animal and human shame ..

[farcop]

Quote: Kotovsky

with every utterance you increase your hatred of the Jews.

My presence or absence will not make you or another anti-Semite a lesser animal anti-Semite. It’s in your blood. And if there is anyone sane, let him hear the truth, and not just the Black Hundred lies. And it’s up to everyone to decide for themselves. Who will become an animal anti-Semite, and who will understand.

Quote: Kotovsky

You are here present on behalf of the Jews

On behalf of? No, on behalf of you here, you live in a country where it is so free, quiet and quiet. And I only indicate my point of view.

[cats]

Quote: farcop

not just the Black Hundred lies

Half a year ago, from a proxy learned about anti-Semites ..
Tell hto so Black Hundred?

Quote: farcop

in a country where it is so free, quiet and quiet

Mistake, your democracy has not reached us yet.

[farcop]

Quote: Kotovsky

Tell hto so Black Hundred?

Did you have a search engine disconnected?

Quote: Kotovsky

your democracy has not yet reached us

If you don’t know about whom it is said: where it is so free, quiet and quiet, then we need not continue the conversation, boy.

[cats]

Quote: farcop

Did you have a search engine disconnected?

Quote: farcop

we don’t need to continue the conversation

Drain protected ..

[farcop]

Quote: Kotovsky

Drain protected.

What, a little child needs help finding? You know about whom it is said: where so freely, quietly and kruuugom?
Learn, youngster, study.

[YELLOWSTONE]

so what's the Black Hundred lie?

[YELLOWSTONE]

tell me why the Zionists accept only the biological part?

[Vagabond]

Crazy logic! And absurd and meaningless.

[Leonardo da Vinci]

Israel hits Iranians. Where they are fighting. If Iran hits Israel, then Israel will hit Iran. As for the Syrians, then - in war as in war. "Or maybe we. Or maybe us."

[high]

Russia is not an ally of Syria (especially Iran) - Russia's main task is to prevent the construction of the Qatar-Turkey-Europe gas pipeline (through Syria).
By the way, Israel is the only Western country that supplies Russia with new technologies, medicines, even helped to master the production of UAVs based on Israeli.
Gentlemen, it seems that many of you do not agree with the policy of the President of Russia in Syria .....

[cats]

Quote: alta

By the way, Israel is the only Western country that supplies Russia with new technologies, medicines, even helped to master the production of UAVs based on Israeli.

Do not flatter yourself, not the only one .. And not for free ..

Quote: alta

the main task of Russia

Come on without Jewish dreams, don’t suck your fingers, it’s harmful ..

Quote: alta

Gentlemen, it seems that many of you do not agree with the policy of the President of Russia in Syria

Do you know the politics of our president? If he smiles at Israel,
have you relaxed Americans are our "partners" too ..

[aquatic]

Quote: alta

Russia is not an ally of Syria (especially Iran)

This is who you think so?)))
we have already entered into a free trade zone with Iran) we will soon be accepting it into the Euro-EU) and Israel itself has requested the Euro-ESE, they are not taking it into business.

[Vagabond]

Quote: alta

Russia is not an ally of Syria (especially Iran) - Russia's main task is to prevent the construction of the Qatar-Turkey-Europe gas pipeline (through Syria).
.....

Nonsense, however. There has never been such a task. As never before there was a project of such a gas pipeline.

And indeed, many people disagree with Putin’s policies in Syria! To get into this ball of contradictions only because of personal ambitions is stupid. And now Putin does not know how to get out of there. But this war devours money with great appetite.

[Zina389]

Since the photo and video operations of the aerospace forces in Syria are practically not laid out ... We assume that they just fly there.

[Dart]

Quote: Tiksi-3

Quote: sogdy
From 18 to 41 we fought with the Americans
but didn’t fight with Australia or Mexico? .... something became with memory.

This is not a memory ... You had a deuce in history, if you studied in the USSR, or is it a victim of the EG?
I knew and read from school, and children know, although now these moments are not emphasized in education, it’s a well-known fact.
Uncle wrote you everything correctly ...:
After the October Revolution of 1917, in order to delimit areas of interest in the territories of the former Russian Empire, American troops, at the request of France and Great Britain, landed in the Far East in the city of Vladivostok in August 1918. In total, in the expeditionary force, there were 7 people under the command of Major General William Graves. Officially, the United States announced that they adhere to a policy of non-intervention and will not help any of the warring parties. After the defeat in 950 of Kolchak’s army, the meaning of the troops’s stay lost its significance and on April 1919, 1, all American soldiers were finally withdrawn from the territory of the Far East. According to some reports, the losses amounted to 1920 people.
In the years 1918-1919. American soldiers were also part of the forces of the Western powers, carrying out foreign military intervention in northern Russia. The interventionists sided with the white movement. The Allied forces, however, were passive and only defended themselves from Soviet troops. In September 1919, they were evacuated due to the massive offensive of the Bolsheviks.

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: Dartys

Uncle wrote you everything correctly ...:

republic of the soviet councils declared war? and there were active fighting? ..... sit down 2

[Vagabond]

Quote: Tiksi-3

republic of the soviet councils declared war? and there were active fighting? ..... sit down 2

Absurd questions! Nobody in the world recognized the Republic of Soviets at that time!
And the United States supported the power that was considered legal! Therefore, they were in their own right.
There was no reason for anyone to consider the Bolsheviks the legitimate authority in Russia.

[Mentat]

Quote: Tiras

. out of a hundred missiles fired by Syrian air defense, not one hit Israeli aircraft.

Apparently, for this reason, Russia does not supply the C300 to Syria ...
Russia does not really want to spoil the reputation of its air defense.

It is very doubtful that you are a Jew. A citizen of Israel and a patriot of his country will not beep "shoot at my fellow citizens, you will not get anyway." Either shkolota did not disappear from my head, or you are not from Israel.
We need to rejoice that Russia is such a long-suffering, calm and balanced country, which firmly adheres to the agreements, while doing hard work, and not running around the forum here with provocative shouts.

[Strips]

Quote: Mentat

A citizen of Israel and a patriot of his country will not beep "shoot at my fellow citizens, you will not get anyway." Either shkolota did not disappear from my head, or you are not from Israel.

You have clear reading comprehension problems.

[Leonardo da Vinci]

So the same Russians arranged dances with tambourines about the possible supplies of S-300 to the Syrians and are looking forward to how they will limit the actions of the Israeli Air Force. Well, what goes around comes around. The answer from the Israelis is appropriate. They dance with the same coin.

[Tomato]

Friends, I read comments, and I can not understand. Did outstanding military experts, world-famous analysts, or schoolchildren gather here? What black and white, primitive judgments, emotions .....
Israel has always smashed an enemy armed with Soviet (Russian) weapons. It is a fact.
Is it possible to say that Russian weapons are "rusty trash"? No. In no case.
Just Israel, this is a military superpower. They are always 3 steps ahead of their opponent. Israel is an advanced, innovative economy, advanced science, a generator of the latest technologies and discoveries.
Not to mention the military school. Recall the defeat of Syrian air defense in 1982. Who led the Arabs? General Yashkin is a participant in the Second World War. They always think in terms of past wars. The Zionists (fiercely hate !!!) all the generals are young, creatively thinking.
When 2 equal military schools fight, Soviet weapons proved to be excellent.
War Iran - Iraq. The Iranians considered it a success to seize a Soviet-made tank.
Brilliant Croatian operation to eliminate Serbian Krajina. Whose weapons did the Croats fight? Soviet.
And the last example is Ukraine. Both sides are armed approximately the same, military schools are no different, and parity has been established.
So, gentlemen Russophobia, your card is a bit.

[YELLOWSTONE]

he probably was an adviser, you'd better about the American Secretary of State whom the Arabs listened to and who agreed with them on a cease-fire which the Israelis violated in 2 days and this defeat happened

[Vagabond]

Quote: YELLOWSTONE

he probably was an adviser, you'd better about the American Secretary of State whom the Arabs listened to and who agreed with them on a cease-fire which the Israelis violated in 2 days and this defeat happened

Yashkin was not just the Chief Advisor to M. Tlas, but also the commander of the Soviet group in Syria. He was subordinate to the Deputy for Air Force - Lieutenant General V. Sokolov, for Air Defense - Lieutenant General K. Babenko, for EW - Major General Yu. Ulchenko. At all levels of command and control of the Syrian troops - from batteries and companies to the Syrian Ministry of Defense, there were thousands of Soviet officers.

[YELLOWSTONE]

but he was not the Syrian Supreme Commander in 1982, and the Syrians did not listen to him but succumbed to the tricks of the US Secretary of State
they also did not listen to Soviet advisers and flew over the Lebanese mountains where they suffered heavy losses

[sivuch]

Not certainly in that way . First of all, Yashkin himself is a tanker by training, he understood the issues of air defense insofar as. I can’t say anything about General Sokolov, but with the equipment that the Syrians had, it was impossible to do anything. General K. Babenko is from the country's air defense (he was deputy commander of the Baku air defense district, that is, he, in turn, did not know the specifics of the air defense, nor air defense in particular. That is, it is difficult to say who responsible for the defeat - the advisers themselves or those who sent them. And as for Israel - yes, there they approached the preparation competently and creatively, fully utilizing all the technological capabilities (and without the hatred that took place before the year 73)

[high]

Quote: Kotovsky

Quote: alta

By the way, Israel is the only Western country that supplies Russia with new technologies, medicines, even helped to master the production of UAVs based on Israeli.

Do not flatter yourself, not the only one .. And not for free ..
Which Western country, besides Israel, trades with Russia?

Quote: alta

the main task of Russia

Come on without Jewish dreams, don’t suck your fingers, it’s harmful ..
Why is this rudeness, General Ivashov, it seems, not a Jew - he first expressed the main task of Russia in Syria: to prevent the laying of a gas pipeline

Quote: alta

Gentlemen, it seems that many of you do not agree with the policy of the President of Russia in Syria

Do you know the politics of our president? If he smiles at Israel,
have you relaxed

The President fulfills the agreement with the Israeli Prime Minister: Israel does not intervene in the war in Syria, but will not allow Iranian and Hisbol terrorists to gain a foothold in Syria.
If the air defense of Syria, when attacking Iranian bases, will fire at Israeli aircraft, the air defense will be destroyed.
Israel cannot be defeated in wars; it relies only on its own strengths.
Both Russia, the United States, and Iran are well aware of the military power of Israel, which is used when Israel attacks: Israel launched a missile attack on a US ship in 1967, where, unfortunately, dozens of American troops died, he also shot down several Soviet planes in the 1982 battles. . - all this info is on the Internet.

[q75agent]

as well as on the internet is full of information about how Soviet air defense missile systems shot down Israeli aircraft

[voyaka uh]

They shot down, of course, in the 70s. Because of these losses, Israel and the tax on methods of how to deceive and suppress missile defense. This was beautifully demonstrated to the Syrians in 1982.

[Leonardo da Vinci]

But in RuNet there is little information about how Israeli planes destroyed Soviet air defense systems. But in other languages ​​- full.

[aquatic]

Quote: alta

President fulfills agreement with Israeli Prime Minister

and the document is eating some kind of agreement yes? or you so secretly prime minister and the president whispered)))

What does it mean Israel does not intervene? he intervenes, is directly involved in the war on the side of the SSA and ISIS) what agreements are you talking about.

[Leonardo da Vinci]

Lying. Israelis bomb only warehouses and caravans of weapons designed to transport Hezbollah to Lebanon. At the same time, Israel does not touch Hezbollah, who is fighting in Syria. Hezbollah - the same terrorists as ISIS. For Russia, they are temporary allies. For Israel - constant enemies. So do not blame me. Let them be pleased that they are not even wet in the "Syrian toilet." But they will not be allowed to build up rockets in Lebanon.

[aquatic]

Lies?))) Israel’s bombardment of the Syrian army with a simultaneous attack by bearded men) this is of course an accident)) an accident regularly recurring. And we don’t need to tell us here that the bearded men saw the bombing at 4 am and immediately ran to attack) who at least once had a relationship with the headquarters knows that such things are considered and planned in advance)
Artillery shellings from the golan of the Syrian army during an ISIS attack) this also of course does not mean anything))

you have a war with Syria, ISIS and Syria have a war) you are allies with ISIS) at least you have the same enemy and the same goal) they judge people’s affairs. but your affairs, alas, are not nice

[sivuch]

In the year 82?
About the 70th I know

[-ш-]

Well, do not respect yourself.

[Mayor]

Really shot at the cars well. It was clear that it was impossible to get it. Well, missiles missed 50 percent. In general, the result is not very. Still need to learn. Or maybe put your calculations ... Only your Commander-in-Chief is against something. He probably doesn’t want to put his own ...

[q75agent]

our calculations are for the S-400 and S-300 V you want to check ....

[Mayor]

Well this is already 3MV. This is not for us .. I think you have no doubt that we will destroy ...

[q75agent]

Quote: Mayr

I think you have no doubt that we will destroy ...

I doubt that after the "destruction" your airfields and bases will remain safe and sound, you want to check

[Mayor]

Of course. Therefore, negotiations are ongoing ... Russia has entered our territory and it will have to negotiate with us. Turkey and Iran are trying to cling here ...

[macgyver]

What, Shoigu is already storming Tel Aviv?

[q75agent]

Israeli pilots had a special account for the Syrians - during the Yom Kippur War in October 1973. several downed Israeli pilots found themselves in Syrian captivity, where they underwent monstrous tortures and tortures.
Source: http://newrezume.org/news/2015-06-11-9404?utm_sou
rce = copypast

[Leonardo da Vinci]

Yes, the Syrians missed rather than 50%, but all 90%, if not 100%.

[YELLOWSTONE]

90% still did not miss London air defense

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Stars like breathing ... Where is the photo of at least shot down Iranian missiles over the Golan?

Israel is an accomplice in ISIS and US crimes in Syria ...

[voyaka uh]

And in general, "byak". This is the general motive for your posts on the site.

[Leonardo da Vinci]

Where is the photo of the downed Israeli rockets over Syria?

Russia is an accomplice in the crimes of Hezbollah and the Asadites in Syria. And we will be even.

[Alex Justice]

Today in Australia showed an excellent film Bitter Rivals who is the main accomplice in crime and how it all began. In the first place is the Saudi coalition, West, America and Israel. On the second is Iran. Syria turned out to be a scapegoat between the two.
It would be great to translate it into Russian.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6gbdgm

[Mentat]

Quote: Tiras

Quote: Mentat

A citizen of Israel and a patriot of his country will not beep "shoot at my fellow citizens, you will not get anyway." Either shkolota did not disappear from my head, or you are not from Israel.

You have clear reading comprehension problems.

Really? I see a big problem with responsibility in your statements.

[Olga Donovina]

C-400 is capable of striking on carriers. C-400 is capable of striking even those aircraft that stand on airfields.

[Tomato]

You may ask, what is the C - 400 radio horizon?

[voyaka uh]

What is it like? Turn it into a ballistic missile?

[farcop]

Quote: Olga Donovina

C-400 is capable of striking on carriers. C-400 is capable of striking even those aircraft that stand on airfields.

This is when the earth is flat, and when is it round?

[macgyver]

of a hundred missiles fired by Syrian air defense, not one hit Israeli aircraft.

Which is generally not bad, given that the Syrians fired at Israeli rockets, of which 60 were fired ... how many were shot down is not clear, but the damage was again suspiciously small, even taking into account the hits at the arms depots.

[voyaka uh]

Well this is not carpet bombing. Intelligence gives targets at military bases. For each, a suitable ammunition is allocated: a rocket or a bomb. HOS hits - in the middle of the roofs. There is no unnecessary destruction.
You probably have seen enough shots of destroyed Syrian cities? And compare with them?

[macgyver]

Well, where did you get, except for the disabled "Shell"?

The Israeli army fired about 70 missiles across Syria, the Russian Defense Ministry said.

"The attack involved 28 Israeli F-15 and F-16 aircraft, which fired about 60 air-to-surface missiles in various regions of Syria. More than 10 tactical ground-to-ground missiles were also launched from Israel," According to the Ministry of Defense, noting that more than half of the missiles were shot down by combat calculations of Syrian air defense. (TASS)

Of course, it’s nice to say that not a single plane (which was shot at all, most likely) was shot down. But this is "pulling an owl onto the globe."

[voyaka uh]

Israeli satellite under control
civilian company, constantly monitors the Middle East.
And publishes pictures: before and after with dates. Nobody and never him
not caught in any falsification.
On the last pictures there is a base, which is discussed in the discussion.

[macgyver]

Alas, my access code to the shabak does not allow me to connect directly to the satellite to see the destruction at Syrian bases. In the news, for some reason they don’t write ... I saw only the "shell" and the crumpled radar from the "s-200" probably.

the IDF press service reported that over 50 targets were attacked in Syria, including five Syrian air defense systems S-200 (SA5), S-75 Dvina (SA2), Pantsir-S1 (SA22) and Buk -M1-2 "(SA17), reminds NEWSru Israel. According to a Newsader source in Israel, all of these facilities were routed within an hour and a half by 28 Israeli Air Force planes.

How is this possible with 30 missiles of 50 targets?
Of course, I am a believer, it’s possible to feed 5000 people with five breads, most likely ... but with 30 missiles 50 goals ... somehow too much.

[voyaka uh]

To be honest, I don’t care whether you believe it or not.
I tried to help, but failed.

[Radical]

Quote: voyaka uh

It will probably be useful for you to know that ALWAYS do this when attacking air defense systems.
First, they discharge the complex using false targets or flying over it at ineffective destruction distances, and then destroy the empty complex. And the Syrians know about it.
Therefore, they drank coffee at a safe distance from the machine. And, I suppose, they were not very surprised at the incoming rocket.

This is obvious - everyone saw it! What is the “overthrow” about which some of your fellow tribesmen are cracking here ?!

[Leonardo da Vinci]

> It's obvious - everyone saw it! What is the "peremoga" that some of your fellow tribesmen are rattling about here ?!

- And what is the “help” that some of your fellow tribesmen are cracking about here ?!

[Radical]

Quote: Mayr

Really shot at the cars well. It was clear that it was impossible to get it. Well, missiles missed 50 percent. In general, the result is not very. Still need to learn. Or maybe put your calculations ... Only your Commander-in-Chief is against something. He probably doesn’t want to put his own ...

Whose own - Rotenberg, or Ostrovsky? So they have your citizenship ...

[Leonardo da Vinci]

> How effective have Syrian air defense systems been? Well, in principle, normal - in the area of ​​half of the flying missiles shot down.

- One can also laugh at this statement because there is no evidence. We can say that the Syrians and the Russian Defense Ministry habitually lie.

[YELLOWSTONE]

but in general, who is more familiar than anyone in the world to lie?

[farcop]

Quote: YELLOWSTONE

but in general, who is more familiar than anyone in the world to lie?

The one who came up with "write there is nothing more to pity them"

[YELLOWSTONE]

and who was that? really he too ...

[Leonardo da Vinci]

> Of course, it's nice to say that not a single plane (at which they did not shoot at all, most likely) was shot down. But this is "pulling an owl on the globe."

- “Most likely” is your unreasonable speculation. The Israeli Air Force commander clearly said that the planes were fired. But the allegations that the Syrians shot down half of the missiles are exactly "pulling an owl onto the globe."

[aquatic]

Quote: Leonardo da Vinci

Israeli Air Force commander clearly said

awesome evidence)) but yes gentlemen believe in words)

[Leonardo da Vinci]

Quote: 76SSSR

And how does this confirm the launch of 100 rockets?

And what confirms the downing of half of the Israeli missiles? NOTHING.

[YELLOWSTONE]

and what confirms that there are more than two?

[Leonardo da Vinci]

Quote: Olga Donovina

C-400 is capable of striking on carriers. C-400 is capable of striking even those aircraft that stand on airfields.

The S-400, like any other air defense system, cannot shoot at targets below its radio horizon. This is by no means a child prodigy. S-400 missile can shoot no further than at a distance of 25 km. Due to the curvature of the earth.

[YELLOWSTONE]

and why then do they do long-range air defense systems?

[Dimid]

Quote: vkaplich

Maybe you should remember the story and how did the state of Israel? Or about the occupation of the Dutch heights?

Wow ! Israel captured some heights in the Netherlands ??

[Vagabond]

Quote: hrych

Quote: Vagabond

Nonsense, however! Complete. And about the flight and about the defeat. Tzahal did not have the task of conquering Lebanon. The task was to clear the 20-km zone along the border from Hezbollah fighters.

So Olmert probably justified himself But not a ride

No! Olmert made excuses for the incorrectly posed political task in that war. For underestimating the danger of Hezbollah.

[Vagabond]

Quote: sivuch

It is Syrian. But if you want technical analysis, and not dashing statements, how cool we are (this applies to both sides), then you need to look for another forum

What's all this nonsense about? What technical analysis?

In Bekaa, Israel destroyed precisely the Soviet-Syrian air defense! Led by Soviet officers.
“The control of the Syrian army was carried out by Soviet generals and officers. The main military adviser and adviser to the Minister of Defense of Syria was Colonel General G.P. Yashkin, who was subordinate to his deputy for the Air Force, Lieutenant General V. Sokolov, and for Air Defense, Lieutenant General K. Babenko, according to electronic warfare - Major General Yu. Ulchenko. There were thousands of Soviet officers at all levels of command and control of the Syrian troops - from batteries and companies to the Syrian Ministry of Defense.
The group of Syrian troops located in Lebanon at that time included four air defense brigades equipped with the Soviet Kub, S-75M Volga and S-125M Pechora anti-aircraft missile systems. On the night of June 9-10, 1982, the 82nd mixed anti-aircraft missile brigade and three anti-aircraft artillery regiments were additionally introduced into Lebanese territory. Thus, 24 Syrian anti-aircraft missile divisions were deployed in a battle formation extending 30 km along the front and 28 km in depth. These forces were required to provide cover for Syrian troops in the Lebanese Bekaa Valley."

[YELLOWSTONE]

Well, how in 1982 was this Syrian air defense carried out using the “observatory” that was recently attacked in the Golan?
and why did they have to shoot at it from a battleship in 1983?

[Radical]

Quote: Leonardo da Vinci

> It's obvious - everyone saw it! What is the "peremoga" that some of your fellow tribesmen are rattling about here ?!

- And what is the “help” that some of your fellow tribesmen are cracking about here ?!

Not without this, we have hat-throwers, just like you probably do, but in my comments you will not find “victory cries”! Moreover, I believe that the leadership of the Russian Federation with such a position regarding the supply of air defense systems is, to put it mildly, wrong! By the way, why are you reacting so nervously to the possible transfer of the S-300 to the Syrians? Your Benya travels to Moscow constantly, on this occasion in particular! Since they are such tough warriors, would they wait until the complexes arrived and show the whole world the power of Jewish weapons? Why throw threats in vain? But no, they twist their little hands, raise their fists, and ride to Moscow... . Remember, you are “strong” as long as you are allowed to be! When someone in the world gets extremely tired of this, you will be left with a wet spot!

[stone]

The very fact that 20 air force commanders from such countries come to Israel for a meeting speaks volumes, of course.

[Mentat]

Quote: Tomatoes

Not to mention the military school. Recall the defeat of Syrian air defense in 1982. Who led the Arabs? General Yashkin is a participant in the Second World War. They always think in terms of past wars. The Zionists (fiercely hate !!!) all the generals are young, creatively thinking.
When 2 equal military schools fight

25 again... How long can we continue to talk about these myths? In addition, you hint or even claim that the Israeli military school is much more advanced than the Soviet/Russian one. Biased and unfounded, to put it mildly.

Regarding the defeat of the air defense, there is a sufficient amount of material in RuNet with comments from direct participants in the actions. Briefly:

1. The Syrian leadership refused to create a centralized air defense control system.
2. The placement of air defense facilities was incorrect in relation to the terrain. But there were no resources or desire to do it correctly.
3. Repeated facts of ignoring recommendations by the Syrian military.
4. The novelty factor in the form of Israeli UAVs, which they skillfully took advantage of.

In the Arab world there was a certain erroneous belief that air defense installations were some kind of magical artifact - pressed a button, the plane fell. Perhaps today something like this exists outside the already experienced Syrian army.
Air defense in the Russian sense is a complex layered system, the individual/isolated elements of which, although they can pose a very high threat to the enemy, cannot work with full efficiency. In this case, learning calculations plays a very significant role.

[sogdy]

Tiksi-3,
I really like your enthusiasm. Very reminiscent of the dream of one character in The Tenth Kingdom.

[VladimS]

Quote: Leonardo da Vinci

The one who laughs last laughs well. So the Israelis had a good laugh. But laughter without a reason, as you know the sign ... whom? You know it yourself.

The one who laughs last is usually not very intelligent or, often, a clinical “brake”

[Dzafdet]

Quote: Vagabond

Out of place you remembered it.

But I recalled how in 1982, Israel in a couple of days destroyed the entire Soviet-Syrian air defense of the Syrian forces in the Bekaa Valley. ALL - this is in the full sense of the word

Or I remembered July 30, 1970, when in an air battle over the Suez Canal, Israeli aircraft shot down 5 Soviet MIGs without incurring casualties.


But laughter for no reason is a sign of fooling around. This is evidenced by the old Russian proverb.

Facts to the studio! Where exactly did they destroy Soviet air defense? Or did they destroy the equipment delivered to Syria and the Syrian military? Our air defense was nowhere near there... Stop repeating Shulman’s nonsense...