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Flowers in the studio. Putin called the condition of the preservation of gas transit through Ukraine

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The President of Russia during a meeting with German Chancellor Angela Merkel spoke about the condition under which Moscow will maintain gas transit through the territory of Ukraine after the construction of the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline. The Russian president, who met Angela Merkel in Sochi with a bunch of flowers, noted that the condition for the continuation of the Ukrainian transit of Russian gas is economic feasibility for the Russian Federation and other participants in economic activity.




RIA Newsand quotes Vladimir Putin:
I want to emphasize that deliveries will be continued if they are economically sound and expedient for participants in economic activities.


In fact, this statement by Putin means that first of all everything depends on Ukraine and its “strategic partners.” If in Kiev they stop the practice of constant speculations on the acquisition of Russian gas and its transit to Europe, then the transit can be preserved. But can Ukraine alone abandon this kind of speculation?

Vladimir Putin added that for Russia the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline is of an exclusively economic nature. And in Moscow they do not understand the statements of some foreign leaders who call “SP-2” a project of political significance.

According to Angela Merkel, Germany expects that after the implementation of the Nord Stream-2 project, the transit of Russian gas through Ukraine will still be saved. The German chancellor added that for Germany "this is of strategic importance." At the same time, Merkel noted that she spoke and continues to advocate a dialogue with Russia, which "did not stop on the part of Germany even in the most difficult times."

Merkel:
In the most difficult times I have always advocated that, for example, the Russia-NATO Council should continue its work, and on the part of the EU, contacts should be maintained and maintained. Only on the basis of dialogue can one develop a balanced position on any questions of interest. And the issue of energy is no exception.
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  1. Vard
    Vard 19 May 2018 05: 52
    +7
    Two hundred and fifty billion dollars to Ukraine ... How I think ... I can’t eat ... How much is half a liter ... I can’t drink great-grandchildren ...
    1. A good one
      A good one 19 May 2018 06: 04
      +17
      So Germany would have loaded the ukrotrubu for itself, and if it would have provided others through Sp-2, it still would not remain in the loser. Frau Merkel, weak?
      1. volodya
        volodya 19 May 2018 06: 54
        +6
        Quote: Not bad
        So Germany would have loaded the ukrotrubu for itself, and if it would have provided others through Sp-2, it still would not remain in the loser. Frau Merkel, weak?

        Grandma is completely confused! Why does she need this Ukraine? A suitcase without a pen!
        1. cariperpaint
          cariperpaint 19 May 2018 07: 04
          +17
          Policy. The main thing for her is the fact of its preservation. And not just how much they pump. Ukraine less than 50 mr cubes can not be downloaded, this is a minus. In fact, this only makes things worse for Ukraine because the pipe must be repaired to maintain even a minimum. Look for wild money for it. In fact, now the situation is stalemate for everyone except us.
          1. Shurik70
            Shurik70 19 May 2018 07: 35
            +38
            The US knows that Assad uses chemical weapons in Syria. Just do not say why.
            The British know that the Russians poisoned Skripal ... They just won’t say where they know from.
            Merkel knows that the transit of Russian gas through Ukraine is very important for Germany. Just do not say why.
            What are they ... the same.
            1. For example
              For example 19 May 2018 09: 29
              +13
              Germany transit through Ukraine is important only at the moment. At the time of construction of SP-2, as an argument in upholding the right to build SP-2. After the completion of the construction of SP-2, Merkel will not remember from the Ukrainian pipe.

              Speaking and doing is not the same thing.

              Fact - Merkel came to Putin to decide on the construction of SP-2. She needs Russian gas. Ukrainians will go to railway immediately after the completion of construction.

              I need it (Russian gas) too. But the "public domain" by decision of the government belongs to Gazprom. And Gazprom scored a bolt on my Wishlist. laughing Gazprom sells the “National Treasure” to the Germans and soars our brains that it’s profitable for us.

              It’s just that hell doesn’t get any warmer in the house and the kettle on the stove does not boil. laughing
              1. Nyrobsky
                Nyrobsky 19 May 2018 10: 07
                +13
                Quote: For example
                It’s just that hell doesn’t get any warmer in the house and the kettle on the stove does not boil.

                Warm the house and change the kettle. yes
                1. Nikolay Fedorov
                  Nikolay Fedorov 19 May 2018 12: 00
                  +5
                  Quote: Nyrobsky
                  Quote: For example
                  It’s just that hell doesn’t get any warmer in the house and the kettle on the stove does not boil.

                  Warm the house and change the kettle. yes

                  Yes, it is clear that we can adapt to any conditions of existence. I had to turn the dugout into a luxurious warm dwelling, and boil the water on a fire in a porridge pot. This is not the point. The bottom line is that it’s unpleasant (to put it mildly) to feel like a black bone in the presence of white European bones.
                2. mihai_md2003
                  mihai_md2003 20 May 2018 02: 43
                  +1
                  Warm the house and change Miller and others like that - this is how the kettle will boil faster!
                3. BecmepH
                  BecmepH 21 May 2018 06: 10
                  0
                  Quote: Nyrobsky
                  Quote: For example
                  It’s just that hell doesn’t get any warmer in the house and the kettle on the stove does not boil.

                  Warm the house and change the kettle. yes

                  Less to you. And if the house in Sochi and the kettle are new ...
              2. Incvizitor
                Incvizitor 19 May 2018 14: 41
                +1
                After completion of the construction of SP-2

                They will say friendly that the content of this pipe and maybe the entire 404 is not economically justified.
          2. maxim947
            maxim947 19 May 2018 14: 46
            +1
            Why stalemate? The pipe is sold to the Germans and loaded in full, Ukraine receives a lot of cash and plus annual income for renting adjacent land and voila everyone is happy, only that the Sumerians should sell it should they get to the full “pen”
            1. mihai_md2003
              mihai_md2003 20 May 2018 02: 47
              0
              In this situation, Russia does not guarantee transit early to the full! And who wants to buy something in / in Ukraine there are 7 Fridays a week. Germany is better to supply the same Ukraine through the northern stream, but at European prices.
        2. LSA57
          LSA57 19 May 2018 09: 37
          +3
          Quote: volodya
          Grandma is completely confused! Why does she need this Ukraine?

          she doesn't need her. but she (Germany), since the year 45 of the last century, has not decided anything herself.
          1. MPN
            MPN 19 May 2018 11: 03
            +11
            Quote: LSA57
            she doesn't need her. but she (Germany), since the year 45 of the last century, has not decided anything herself.

            Don’t we care? Germany wants deliveries through Ukraine, we conclude a supply agreement to Germany on DAF conditions, the Russian border of Ukraine and transport to health, what do we have to do with it?
            1. LSA57
              LSA57 19 May 2018 11: 07
              +4
              Quote: MPN
              Germany wants deliveries through Ukraine, we conclude a supply agreement to Germany on DAF conditions, the Russian border of Ukraine and transport to health, what do we have to do with it?

              yes it is clear. we now need to build the main pipeline. and there it will be seen. by that time, maybe beggar will already be hanging on the lamppost
              1. MPN
                MPN 19 May 2018 11: 11
                +9
                Quote: LSA57
                Prosroshenko will already be hanging on a lamppost

                If only Poroshenko ... that adder should now be raked for half a century ...
                1. LSA57
                  LSA57 19 May 2018 11: 16
                  +1
                  Quote: MPN
                  that adder now needs to be raked for half a century

                  yes more. but if ideology changes, they will quiet down. they are bold from impunity
                  1. MPN
                    MPN 19 May 2018 11: 20
                    +6
                    Quote: LSA57
                    they are bold from impunity

                    Strange guys ... punish themselves and bold from impunity ... winked
                    1. LSA57
                      LSA57 19 May 2018 11: 36
                      +1
                      Quote: MPN
                      Strange guys ...

                      so to them from 91 years of age the moss endure
        3. sgazeev
          sgazeev 19 May 2018 13: 46
          +1
          Quote: volodya
          Quote: Not bad
          So Germany would have loaded the ukrotrubu for itself, and if it would have provided others through Sp-2, it still would not remain in the loser. Frau Merkel, weak?

          Grandma is completely confused! Why does she need this Ukraine? A suitcase without a pen!

          She’s an aunt from Berlin County. She wouldn’t have any children and grandchildren. She herself has punished herself with sanctions against Russia. And here Germany imposed sanctions on Trumpush to me the most I can’t.
        4. krops777
          krops777 19 May 2018 14: 25
          +2
          Why does she need this Ukraine? A suitcase without a pen!


          A suitcase without a pen steamed them the USA. wink
        5. Heterocapsa
          Heterocapsa 19 May 2018 14: 59
          0
          if you don’t understand why, then answer the question, why do we need so many gas pipelines, since it could be limited only to European or Chinese or Turkish. Germany also wants to protect itself completely by switching to gas in the future (they jump off coal and atom). they were not blackmailed by a single supplier; they needed different pipes.
      2. Victor N
        Victor N 19 May 2018 12: 12
        0
        If European consumers incur the additional costs of transporting gas through Ukraine, then they will ...
        1. major147
          major147 19 May 2018 22: 15
          0
          Quote: Victor N
          If European consumers incur the additional costs of transporting gas through Ukraine, then they will ...

          Vice President of the European Commission for Energy Union Affairs Marosh Shefchovich voiced the idea of ​​the Ukrainian leadership:

          Ukraine declares that it wants to preserve the transit of Russian natural gas to Europe and will seek solutions that would guarantee that the higher the volume, the cheaper it will cost Gazprom.

          He further clarified that gas supplies through Ukraine should be “commercially viable”.

          Since the current contract between Gazprom and Ukraine expires in 2019, our Ukrainian partners have a serious cause for concern. An inevitable reduction in transit is expected, as part of the gas for European consumers will be redirected directly via Nord Stream-2 to Germany.

          Gazprom management has never claimed that the company plans to completely abandon Ukrainian transit. Even if they wanted it, they would not be able, since the capacity of the bypass pipelines is not enough to fully satisfy the Europeans' demand for Russian gas.

          A little added intrigue and Putin’s statement that, subject to economic benefits for our country, gas supplies to the EU through Ukraine will continue. And against the background of a decrease in the production of “blue fuel” by Great Britain and Norway, an inevitable increase in European demand for Russian gas is inevitable. There simply can not do without Ukrainian transit.

          Another thing is that he will bring much less money to the Ukrainian treasury than before. That is why Ukrainians are trying to seduce Gazprom with discounts on the cost of transit services in exchange for refusing to significantly reduce the volume of gas supplies through the Ukrainian gas transportation system. So it’s quite logical to propose to the Russians the linking of the cost of transit to the skipped volume. And if Russia makes such a deal, perhaps it will keep the Ukrainian leadership on a “short lead”.

          After that, Russia will be able to dictate its will to Ukraine on many issues.
    2. Chertt
      Chertt 19 May 2018 06: 10
      +3
      Russian President during a meeting with German Chancellor Angela Merkel

      She is in white, he is with flowers winked
      1. Sergey-svs
        Sergey-svs 19 May 2018 06: 39
        +11
        Merkel: - Volodya, sweep me on KAMAZ along the Crimean Mast? belay
        Putin: - Goeben si world bitte frau in KAMAZ ... wink
        And on Upyrin at this time, the drunken Patya wept bitterly ... wassat

        PS Merkel - she is .... dangerous! yes

        laughing laughing laughing
      2. Observer2014
        Observer2014 19 May 2018 07: 17
        +10
        Chertt (Alexey)
        She is in white, he is with flowers
        laughing Yeah. Not only that, she is still trying to be cute. repeat Well, what!?. We have a bridegroom with a dowry in 1/7. pieces of sushi. laughing
        1. Chertt
          Chertt 19 May 2018 08: 17
          +3
          Quote: Observer2014
          Yeah. Not only that, she is still trying to be cute.

          So gentlemen from overseas do not pull. The previous one was at least a black man, some sort of intrigue. And the new, just unpredictable Schizoid wink
      3. Antiliberast
        Antiliberast 19 May 2018 08: 23
        +9
        Quote: Chertt
        Russian President during a meeting with German Chancellor Angela Merkel

        She is in white, he is with flowers winked

        What are the hints of Alex? Fuuu. God forbid such a shame, it’s better A. Kabaev fellow .
        1. Chertt
          Chertt 19 May 2018 08: 26
          +3
          Quote: Anti-librast
          What are the hints of Alex? Fuuu.

          Well what are you. repeat In the words of Viktor Stepanovich Chernomyrdin "I am far from thinking"
          1. Antiliberast
            Antiliberast 19 May 2018 08: 29
            +7
            Quote: Chertt
            Well what are you. In the words of Viktor Stepanovich Chernomyrdin "I am far from thinking"

            It was already relieved, otherwise I already started looking for where to sign up for Lech bulk.
        2. Piramidon
          Piramidon 19 May 2018 11: 09
          +2
          Quote: Anti-librast
          Quote: Chertt
          Russian President during a meeting with German Chancellor Angela Merkel

          She is in white, he is with flowers winked

          What are the hints of Alex? Fuuu. God forbid such a shame, it’s better A. Kabaev fellow .

          It can be understood in another way. They are also in white in a coffin and bring flowers to the dead man
          1. Separ DNR
            Separ DNR 19 May 2018 11: 30
            +2
            Quote: Piramidon
            It can be understood in another way. They are also in white in a coffin and bring flowers to the dead man

            Do you think, Frau Merkel, it is worth counting the number of flowers in a bouquet?
            Paired, not paired?
          2. Dym71
            Dym71 19 May 2018 13: 50
            0
            Quote: Piramidon
            It can be understood in another way. They are also in white in a coffin and bring flowers to the dead man

            Quote: Separ DNR
            Do you think, Frau Merkel, it is worth counting the number of flowers in a bouquet?

            Frau Merkel congratulated our remote prime minister on her appointment in Russian, wished him a “happy journey”, he dragged his forehead wider than the bouquet, the Darkest shines, the star in the night, the Komsomol member echoed him - idyll, and you are for the funeral wassat
          3. Antiliberast
            Antiliberast 19 May 2018 18: 21
            +5
            Quote: Piramidon
            It can be understood in another way. They are also in white in a coffin and bring flowers to the dead man

            Hinting that frau has already begun to smell of earth? Yes, you still can’t catch her with a shovel, and here she’s not just dropping a beer.
      4. Lelek
        Lelek 19 May 2018 19: 19
        0
        Quote: Chertt
        Chertt

        hi
        And she didn’t forget to bring a beer to Putin?
    3. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 19 May 2018 15: 53
      0
      Quote: Vard
      Two hundred and fifty billion dollars to Ukraine ... How I think ... I can’t eat ... How much is half a liter ... I can’t drink great-grandchildren ...

      And if you count on Energizer or what they will have there .... yes, enormous distances.
    4. ser-pov
      ser-pov 19 May 2018 17: 14
      0
      This is necessary ... And we also have to raise Trump .... An amazing granny ...
      1. Lelek
        Lelek 19 May 2018 19: 24
        0
        Quote: ser-pov
        And to us and Trump.

        hi
        Well, in this regard, the United States stands by itself. Despite the sanctions they have introduced, they are asking Russia to help with space transport. In logic.
    5. Vend
      Vend 22 May 2018 09: 29
      0
      Quote: Vard
      Two hundred and fifty billion dollars to Ukraine ... How I think ... I can’t eat ... How much is half a liter ... I can’t drink great-grandchildren ...

      You better think about how much Ukraine will have to pay with interest and you won’t be able to drink laughing
  2. Deune
    Deune 19 May 2018 05: 54
    +7
    Council of Russia - NATO continued to work, yeah. Watching how PACE works and Russia's position in it, as well as taking into account the negotiability of NATO, especially the chief conductor of the United States, we do not need such a “job”, to put it mildly.
  3. Strashila
    Strashila 19 May 2018 06: 08
    +3
    “I want to emphasize that deliveries will continue if they are economically feasible and expedient for participants in economic activity.” ... and so, in this world it is generally accepted that Russia is a super monopoly on gas supplies and Europe is filled to its ears. . I would like to remember that Europe itself screams about diversification of gas supplies, everyone rests on Nord Stream 2 ... but they forget about the TANAP gas pipeline, the Southern Gas Corridor project provides for the transportation of ten billion cubic meters of Azerbaijani gas from the Caspian through Georgia and Turkey to Europe, this is the main threat to Ukraine. Europe very soon itself will refuse supplies through Ukraine, so Gazprom began to curtail its supplies in a timely manner.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 19 May 2018 06: 30
      +4
      The trick is that the conditions for maintaining transit are completely impossible.
      Quote: Strashila
      “I want to emphasize that deliveries will continue if they are economically feasible and expedient for participants in economic activity.” ... and so, in this world it is generally accepted that Russia is a super monopoly on gas supplies and Europe is filled to its ears. . I would like to remember that Europe itself screams about diversification of gas supplies, everyone rests on Nord Stream 2 ... but they forget about the TANAP gas pipeline, the Southern Gas Corridor project provides for the transportation of ten billion cubic meters of Azerbaijani gas from the Caspian through Georgia and Turkey to Europe, this is the main threat to Ukraine. Europe very soon itself will refuse supplies through Ukraine, so Gazprom began to curtail its supplies in a timely manner.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 19 May 2018 10: 08
        0
        Quote: 210ox
        The trick is that the conditions for maintaining transit are completely impossible.

        Gas is becoming more expensive, making shale gas production cost-effective. Accordingly, I think very soon, in Ukraine, mattress companies will begin to produce shale gas and Parasha will scream from piglets' delight. At the same time, he does not even think about paying off gas debts.
    2. Muvka
      Muvka 19 May 2018 08: 39
      0
      What tens of billions? From 6 to 10, depending on how many Turks will keep for themselves.
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 19 May 2018 10: 14
        +2
        Quote: Muvka
        What tens of billions? From 6 to 10, depending on how many Turks will keep for themselves.

        Generally 15-20. Considering the fact that a GTS has not yet been built outside the territory of Turkey, so far the bulk of gas will be consumed by Turkey itself at least until 2022.
      2. iaroslav.mudryi
        iaroslav.mudryi 19 May 2018 17: 03
        0
        Quote: Muvka
        What tens of billions? From 6 to 10, depending on how many Turks will keep for themselves.

        From here: "He said that" TANAP will export 16 billion cubic meters of gas per year from the Shahdeniz field on the Caspian shelf, including 6 billion to Turkey and 10 billion to Europe. "
        These volumes can grow. up to 31 billion cubic meters only through the construction of additional stations, Vagif Aliyev said. He also did not rule out a doubling of supplies with Turkey itself (up to 12 billion cubic meters per year)."

        https://topwar.ru/140868-v-baku-rasskazali-kogda-
        budet-otkryt-transanatoliyskiy-gazoprovod.html # co
        mment-id-8198164
  4. ANCIENT
    ANCIENT 19 May 2018 06: 17
    +5
    Deliveries through ukroinu should be stopped - because the pipe is an instrument of blackmail of Russia, and the theft of our gas! Enough ukroinu contain at the expense of the population of Russia!
    1. cariperpaint
      cariperpaint 19 May 2018 07: 10
      +1
      Just the opposite. Let them rock. Billions 15 cubic meters or a little more. They still have to pay extra)))
    2. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 19 May 2018 10: 36
      +1
      Quote: ANCIENT
      Deliveries through ukroinu should be stopped - because the pipe is an instrument of blackmail of Russia, and the theft of our gas! Enough ukroinu contain at the expense of the population of Russia!

      Gas is no longer supplied to urkain itself. The fact that they drive away to Europe already with a European margin on the reverse runs back to the cooking pot rings. Since 2019, existing contracts are ending, and new ones have not been concluded and, apparently, they will not be concluded in view of the insanity of the Urkain side. If Germany insists on maintaining transit, then most likely Gazprom will offer it to take all the risks to ensure security on this route. Alternatively, Berlin will lease the Urkaina gas transportation system or the gas delivery point intended for Europeans will be transferred to the border with Russia, then the burghers will be responsible for the amount of gas that disappears from the pipe while running through the territory of Ukaina. But clearly, without the participation of an intermediary, the Russian Federation will not conclude an agreement directly with urcaine.
  5. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 19 May 2018 06: 39
    +6
    Well, Germany is very worried about Ukrainian transit in order to prevent the regime that was fascist there from dying. It would be better if I thought about ordinary Germans and German businessmen. Ukraine has sat on the neck of Europe, doesn’t want to slander yet and constantly blackmails.
    1. garnik
      garnik 19 May 2018 06: 56
      +1
      For more than 200 years, they have been trying to weaken Russia, to split Ukraine from it. A dream has come true and it is necessary to support part of the Russian land in order to manage it. And there can be no rapprochement between Russia and Germany.
      1. mihai_md2003
        mihai_md2003 20 May 2018 02: 58
        0
        All the problems of Russia inside itself. How much water in the sieve do not drag, you will not bring anything. The same thing when you have corruption on all levels of government including the government. How much money you don’t pour and what beautiful laws for entrepreneurs do not write, they will plunder and take everything away. Unfortunately!!
    2. Piramidon
      Piramidon 19 May 2018 13: 26
      0
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Germany is very worried about Ukrainian transit

      As soon as the SP-2 is built, all the experiences will end. Gas on it should be cheaper, since the transit component will leave the price.
  6. Holsten
    Holsten 19 May 2018 06: 41
    +1
    Why not promise transit? A pipe without repair will not last long. I can imagine her condition comparing with the state of Crimea after the “independent” rule.
    1. mihai_md2003
      mihai_md2003 20 May 2018 03: 01
      0
      Of course you have to promise! The contract is not required to sign under it now. We must learn from the Yankees, they even break contracts and contracts with ease! We promise a million billion cubic meters and build Substation 2. Further on.
  7. jovanni
    jovanni 19 May 2018 06: 43
    +2
    I want to emphasize that deliveries will be continued if they are economically sound and expedient for participants in economic activities.

    Well, the "justifiers" in the new old government are enough. Rejoice, Ukrainians ...
    1. cariperpaint
      cariperpaint 19 May 2018 07: 11
      0
      What does the government have to do with it ???
      1. jovanni
        jovanni 19 May 2018 08: 25
        0
        Quote: cariperpaint
        What does the government have to do with it ???

        Do you think that the Russian government does not affect anything in any way, and we are managing the economy of the country, sitting on the couch? Well, you know, I'm not so categorical about the government ...
        1. cariperpaint
          cariperpaint 19 May 2018 12: 40
          0
          Ie do you think that ministries do not give a damn about the president will give economic justification for a full-fledged transit through this pipe?
          1. Piramidon
            Piramidon 19 May 2018 13: 31
            0
            He doesn’t count anything. This sect of "witnesses all the way" pulled itself into the forum.
    2. Antiliberast
      Antiliberast 19 May 2018 08: 35
      +6
      Quote: Jovanni
      Well, the "substantiators" in the new old government enough.

      What are you so about the government? Take an example from our Minister of Defense -
      We work with anyone whom people choose, even if people choose a circus horse. If only he worked, and not just waved his tail. (C) S.K.Shoygu.
  8. demo
    demo 19 May 2018 06: 53
    +5
    The Ukrainian GTS (luckily the cranks got the letter “M”) is primarily a means of blackmail and pressure on the Russian Federation and the EU at the moment.
    We want - let the gas go, do not want - do not let it go.
    We want to steal, but we want - we select for our needs.
    And if the owner of the gas begins to make legitimate claims, then the Ukrainians, with the support of "the whole world community, led by the main" for democracy ", are raising howls.
    Somehow the Russian language was impoverished under Mr. Lavrov.
    All double standards, yes double standards.
    We must move on to more juicy epithets and voiced phrases.
    He's not bad at it.
    It strains otherwise.
    How everything from small to large hangs on a hook from the United States.
    Nobody can call a spade a spade.
    I understand why Merkel says so.
    But I don’t understand why Putin cannot tell about the essence of what is happening. Even in diplomatic terms.
    If Trump says North Korea, you will denuclearize the Korean Peninsula and the leader will be happy, and the Koreans will be wealthy.
    Without any diplomatic equivalents.
    And no one screams that the United States is blackmailing Juche advocates?
    So we should have said.
    Remove something, restore it, cancel it!
    You do not want? Turn off the gas!
    Probably Putin should once again review the film "The Diamond Arm".
    Nona Mordyukova clearly showed how to behave with the rebellious.
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 19 May 2018 13: 35
      0
      Quote: demo
      Somehow the Russian language was impoverished under Mr. Lavrov.

      Do not touch Lavrov. He is a very competent DIPLOMAT, not a courtyard urka, and his language is Russian-diplomatic. So leave your advice for your showdown with your housemates.
  9. samarin1969
    samarin1969 19 May 2018 06: 58
    +6
    From the news only "flowers". ... For a couple of years now, backstage bargaining has been going on. "Electorate" is not informed about it. It is impossible to consider serious information that Macron, Netananyahu, Merkel, Walker, bin Salman arrive only to "check the position" and "smell the flowers." How the bargaining is proceeding can be judged by the cases: NATO in Syria and Ukraine, Russia has changed the rhetoric of all the “hot spots” to a compromise, transit through Ukraine will be preserved, “peacekeepers” in the Donbass, “Minsk” is unilaterally executed. ....
    So that the “all-winners” would not sing from the screens and networks, but the United States obviously felt for the “RF” button and put pressure on it that there were forces.
    1. Antiliberast
      Antiliberast 19 May 2018 08: 53
      +9
      Quote: samarin1969
      So that the “all-winners” would not sing from the screens and networks, but the United States obviously felt for the “RF” button and put pressure on it that there were forces.

      The first button is money, the second one I think is still a product that they still haven’t been able to import, medicines, for example, you can see with the naked eye that the Supreme is ready to forgive a lot, even spitting powder is all spitting, and all this is for our benefit, but for now I don’t feel much, but not all at once, and the fact that he does such a thing (it’s a sacrifice for me personally) inspires respect, there aren’t many of those here who are ready to endure all the dirt for the sake of their people, I would have fallen for a long time, and he suffers. I'm serious if that. Here is a small example if you want, it often sounds like you need to show the place to Israel, and then what? We send there almost every day to treat children with money raised by the people, because they cannot do it here, they have fallen and where to put the children, who will treat?
  10. Moskovit
    Moskovit 19 May 2018 06: 58
    +2
    Merkel is being traded. She wants Russia to also drag a suitcase without a handle called Ukraine. After all, a poor and extravagant country remains in the care of the EU. If she takes away a few more billion, then there will be Somalia.
    And there is nothing to worry about gas. The day the German burger gets a 20% more gas bill will be the last for the ruling coalition. Therefore, SP-2 be.
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 19 May 2018 14: 00
      0
      Quote: Moskovit
      And there is nothing to worry about gas. The day the German burger gets a 20% more gas bill will be the last for the ruling coalition. Therefore, SP-2 be.

      Well, they made fun. Are you hinting at the revolution of the burghers? Yes, nobody there dares to blame anything, except in social networks under a mysterious nickname. On / at 404, the situation with gas prices is much worse, but the “hatskrayniki” are silent like “fish on ice”.
  11. From Germany
    From Germany 19 May 2018 07: 16
    +9
    1. Biden and other Amer’s shoble have taken their shares in the gas pipeline (as far as I know, Biden even built his son on the board of directors), but then they don’t want to drive anything through him .. oh, sadness, they got a rusty and empty pipe in their hands, and got it using administrative resources for personal interests. Does the prosecutor's office work in the US
    2. The Netherlands wants to stop the development of one of the largest gas fields, which is why only Lower Saxony will remain virtually without gas. By the year 2030, the Netherlands completely ceases gas supplies to Germany (in particular, due to the 2012 earthquake in Huizingen, this is not a mat, Huizingen), this applies to 5,2 million German citizens, and in general this is 30% of all imported to Germany gas.
    3. Poor rogue transit countries like Ukraine or Poland always climb, threaten and blather, and the former also steal, jeopardizing the German industry and making it dependent on the Wishlist of these political dwarfs (not that Germany means a lot politically in the world scale, but at least within the EU "big uncle").
    4. LNG from the United States is much more expensive than Russian gas.
    5. Germany will become the main gas distributor in the EU, which makes other EU countries even more dependent on it (bad for them, but good for Germany, and Merkel sits for the fourth term in order to fight for the interests of Germany, although SP4- this is, in my opinion, the only good thing that has been done for Germany with her participation in recent years).

    Despite all these undoubted advantages, for some reason I’m sure that the German oligarchs had to specifically click on the crotch of our politicians and Merkel in particular, to push through this project. After all, our overseas, their mother, friends do not sleep. So this play is being played that you say to Angela this transit through Ukraine is "strategically important", and to Uncle Vova "if it is economically feasible, then it is possible." But in fact, neither Russia nor Germany needs this transit through intermediaries. Generally “trolling” at the highest level, but it’s ridiculous to watch it.
  12. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 19 May 2018 07: 21
    +5
    However, the GDP again cunningly “wrapped” it so ... Frau insists on symbolic transit, ours said OK, if there is "economic feasibility" ... Oh, this feasibility ... The pipeline will ALREADY be! And negotiations on transit will be conducted. For a long time, thoughtfully ... Indeed, in the conditions of transit the most important thing did not sound - the numbers of transit!
  13. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 19 May 2018 07: 53
    +1
    And it seems to me that the emphasis placed in the article is just for couch analysts. For then our helmsman will declare from the rostrum that transit is economically justified anyway. And those who are now writing formidable comments are nodding mane vigorously - the correct decisive, they say ...
  14. sagitch
    sagitch 19 May 2018 07: 57
    +1
    Saying does not mean fulfilling, for Ms Merkel it is a verbal concern, only to throw dust in her eyes .. But Russia is ready to continue to transit gas, but execution will be impossible, due to the critical wear of the pipeline system.
  15. Babalaykin
    Babalaykin 19 May 2018 08: 41
    0
    The joint venture will load for itself, transit through Ukraine will remain in the volume that is needed for Ukraine + Eastern Europe, naturally the Ukrainians will be provided with the correct, European gas.
  16. d1975
    d1975 19 May 2018 08: 45
    +1
    Quote: Shurik70
    The US knows that Assad uses chemical weapons in Syria. Just do not say why.
    The British know that the Russians poisoned Skripal ... They just won’t say where they know from.
    Merkel knows that the transit of Russian gas through Ukraine is very important for Germany. Just do not say why.
    What are they ... the same.

    One plant, some problems)))
  17. steelmaker
    steelmaker 19 May 2018 08: 48
    +2
    If we are called Occupants, why should we call them brothers? It is necessary to stop all economic activity with Ukraine, maybe then they will quickly remember that they have brothers? And our sailors have not yet been released! They mock us as they want, they know that they won’t be anything for it.
    1. aleks700
      aleks700 19 May 2018 11: 59
      0
      And our sailors have not yet been released!
      And the media shut up!
      1. UAZ 452
        UAZ 452 19 May 2018 13: 22
        0
        And what's the point of shaking the air in vain? Now there our border guards are working hard to create an "exchange fund" of Ukrainian poachers. And after a while, they will modestly and politely offer an exchange according to the “all for all” formula.
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    1. UAZ 452
      UAZ 452 19 May 2018 13: 17
      0
      Instead of SP-2, USA - they offer LNG transit through the terminals of the Netherlands (4 are already built, 5,6,7 are under construction)

      You modestly called LNG transportation “transit”, equating it to pipeline, ignoring the cost of liquefying and regasifying it. So far, the cost of these technological operations is such that pipeline gas easily wins the competition from the point of view of economics (which forces LNG producers to actively engage in political mechanisms, such as arm-wringing for countries interested in SP-2).
      I do not rule out the possibility that scientific and technological progress will dramatically drop the cost of liquefaction and regasification, but if for Russia this means the need for additional investments in infrastructure and write-offs of previous investments in gas pipelines (offensively, but hardly fatally), then for countries such as Poland, Ukraine, this means turning their pipeline systems into useless scrap metal.
      1. kipod
        kipod 19 May 2018 13: 19
        0
        Quote: UAZ 452
        So far, the cost of these technological operations is such that pipeline gas easily wins the competition from the point of view of economics (which forces LNG producers to actively engage in political mechanisms, such as arm-wringing for countries interested in SP-2).

        I wonder if you invest in the cost of gas the cost of the construction and operation of pipelines?
        1. UAZ 452
          UAZ 452 19 May 2018 13: 29
          0
          Of course. The cost of transportation. As well as the cost of operating compressor stations, repair and maintenance of this entire economy, lost profits due to the alienation of land under these facilities. So what?
          The cost of transporting LNG is also not limited to liquefaction-liquefaction.
  19. bumerang.
    bumerang. 19 May 2018 09: 33
    +1
    Quote: Chertt
    She is in white

    I came to give up!
    Always came in jackets in dark colors.
  20. Dormidont
    Dormidont 19 May 2018 09: 44
    0
    Continued German dialogue with Russia is called complete and unconditional surrender
  21. Stils
    Stils 19 May 2018 09: 52
    0
    Grandmother has arrived. (C)
    It seems that the reign of the red-headed senile clown looms good dividends.
    Well, who else thinks that Russia did not interfere in the election?
    1. UAZ 452
      UAZ 452 19 May 2018 13: 25
      0
      Merkelsha also recently went for a fourth term (in democratic countries it is possible, the rest cannot!). Maybe just brought a beer, it is known to someone - to buy a hand for help?
  22. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman 19 May 2018 10: 14
    +1
    Quote: Sergey-svs
    Merkel: - Volodya, sweep me on KAMAZ along the Crimean Mast? belay
    Putin: - Goeben si world bitte frau in KAMAZ ... wink
    And on Upyrin at this time, the drunken Patya wept bitterly ... wassat

    PS Merkel - she is .... dangerous! yes

    laughing laughing laughing


    And who is not dangerous when the beer flow blows out?
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 19 May 2018 10: 44
      +1
      So she also carries beer to Putin.
  23. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman 19 May 2018 10: 15
    0
    Quote: Dormidont
    Continued German dialogue with Russia is called complete and unconditional surrender


    ?
  24. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman 19 May 2018 10: 19
    0
    Quote: bumerang.
    Quote: Chertt
    She is in white

    I came to give up!
    Always came in jackets in dark (mourning?) Colors.


    Is this GDP divorced from the gentry for the sake of this good?
  25. aleks700
    aleks700 19 May 2018 11: 57
    0
    Such actions resemble the actions of SAS in the 30 years, when they financed Hitler.
  26. UAZ 452
    UAZ 452 19 May 2018 12: 36
    +1
    Monopoly is harmful. This is an axiom. The EU has already buzzed about the harm of the supplier’s monopoly with the supplier, as well as about the need for diversification. But the dictates of the consumer and the transit are also dangerous. But our partners are brazenly ignoring it.
    All scandals and abuses on the part of all interested parties will cease when Europeans have several suppliers of fuel competing among themselves, and Russia has the opportunity to send their hydrocarbons to different customers. both west and east, south.
    But the issue of Ukrainian transit is solved simply - buyers pay and take gas at the Russian border, and then they pay for their delivery through third countries. All. Dot.
  27. SCHMEL
    SCHMEL 19 May 2018 13: 35
    +1
    Merkel noted that she advocated and continues to advocate a dialogue with Russia, which "did not stop on the German side even in the most difficult times."
    Work partners ... laughing


  28. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 19 May 2018 14: 39
    0
    I want to emphasize that deliveries will be continued if they are economically sound and expedient for participants in economic activities.

    404 in every possible way at this time is trying to justify economically and politically its worthless existence (it’s money to them then a pipe), it just doesn’t work out, it can only zig up and beg for a freebie — an absolutely useless territory.
  29. Heterocapsa
    Heterocapsa 19 May 2018 15: 02
    0
    One thing is for sure, Germany very often frequented us that with a personal presence that was on the phone. So this is only a plus. Contractual processes with the main European representative are only good.