Serious violations. The Accounting Chamber checked the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation

Inspection of the activities of the Russian military in 2017 revealed an illegal use of various resources totaling more than 544 billion rubles, reports TASS.

During the implementation of the external state audit (control) in 2017, violations were revealed, including the inefficient use of federal and other resources, for a total amount of 544,5 billion rubles, according to a report of the Accounts Chamber.

It is reported that "according to the results of the control measures, funds in the amount of 71,2 million rubles were returned to the federal budget."

Among the revealed violations, it is indicated, among other things, “provision of deliberately inaccurate budget reporting for the specified period (2017 year) to the Court of Accounts”.

In addition, "the procedure for the provision of medical care (including high-tech assistance) to servicemen and beneficiaries is not regulated by the normative legal acts of the Russian Federation." Also, the issues “related to making a decision on the source of inpatient medical care in the military medical institutions of the Russian Ministry of Defense with respect to non-beneficiaries” have not been resolved.

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[PFT]

So they got to the generalshey Shevtsova. Serdyukov and Vasilyeva haven’t been around for a long time, and their business (embezzlement of money) continues and flourishes.

[Hire]

Do you understand the difference between inefficient use and theft? Apparently - no. I will explain it to you. If your wife sent you to the store to buy kefir, and you bought beer, this is an inefficient use. And if, having choked on beer, you climbed into the piggy bank of your children to “add”, this is theft. Is this clear? And do not gag.

[PFT]

Quote: Hire

use and theft understand

"Non-legal use of various resources in the amount of 544 billion, including inefficient use," see the DIFFERENCE ???

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: PFT

"Non-legal use of various resources in the amount of 544 billion, including inefficient use," see the DIFFERENCE ???

In my opinion, it’s too early to draw any hasty conclusions and appoint the perpetrators. Today, the Ministry of Defense is one of the most effective ministries, whose activities are like a bone in the throat of our "well-wishers" from Washington, the Pentagon and NATO. I do not affirm, but I cannot deny the presence of “their interest” in the conclusions of “our” Accounting Chamber, since they are delighted with any disruption in the work of the ministry. Dummies in any take a lot of time, effort and money. Something is confirmed, something is not ... The Accounts Chamber will remain on the sidelines. There, things can be mainly solved by transferring the allocated money from one expense item to another expense item, and here the “accountants with prosecutors” are already chasing the tsunami and preparing the bunks.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Nyrobsky

Quote: PFT

"Non-legal use of various resources in the amount of 544 billion, including inefficient use," see the DIFFERENCE ???

In my opinion, it’s too early to draw any hasty conclusions and appoint the perpetrators. Today, the Ministry of Defense is one of the most effective ministries, whose activities are like a bone in the throat of our "well-wishers" from Washington, the Pentagon and NATO. I do not affirm, but I cannot deny the presence of “their interest” in the conclusions of “our” Accounting Chamber, since they are delighted with any disruption in the work of the ministry. Dummies in any take a lot of time, effort and money. Something is confirmed, something is not ... The Accounts Chamber will remain on the sidelines. There, things can be mainly solved by transferring the allocated money from one expense item to another expense item, and here the “accountants with prosecutors” are already chasing the tsunami and preparing the bunks.

yes there it is all in terms ... it is necessary to climb and delve into !!! but in essence - "... the amount of budget funds" with signs of misuse or inefficient use "(corruption or theft can be part of such violations) amounted to about 40 billion rubles, or 2% of the total amount of financial violations, follows from the Accounts data the chambers ... "
and that’s for general expenses ".. budget system expenses (federal budget plus the budgets of regions and extra-budgetary funds) in 2017 amounted to 32,4 trillion rubles, according to the Treasury. Thus, the amount equivalent to 5,8% of all was spent with violations government spending ... "

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[Skif83]

Well, it’s not in vain that Kudrin was put on the Accounting Chamber. He will dissuade someone, and drown someone on the contrary. Probably, to dismiss those who misuse money, and to drown those who are trying to Russia, including and raise the Army, but how else? Someone believes in the government of DAM, Siluanova curls, which have a budget surplus of 4 trillion rubles. and salaries and pensions at some kind of Uganda?
You need to put him in other public institutions, but ... you can see his plan is so ... happy

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: PFT

"Non-legal use of various resources in the amount of 544 billion, including inefficient use," see the DIFFERENCE ???

you do not get involved in amateur performances of local authors !!! Further "illegality" in a strange way turns into inefficiency !!! see the difference ??? but if it’s really interesting, then here is the link ... https: //www.rbc.ru/economics/16/05/2018/
5afb0aa29a79474409677396? From = newsfeed .... I read it yesterday, it’s painted more or less normally !!! Interestingly, the total inefficient costs are very small !!

Well, explanations are given that "inefficiency" and other terms are not always something criminal or bad !!!

"... However, the issue of inefficiency in spending funds does not necessarily mean the existence of a criminal offense, the expert clarifies. This may be an incorrect allocation of budget funds, technical violations that also entail responsibility on the part of those who committed them, but not so serious, he says ... "

Member of the expert council of the collegium of the Military-Industrial Commission, Colonel Reserve Viktor Murakhovsky also notes that the violations identified are often formal.

“... Most likely, we are talking about incorrect or untimely paperwork and incorrect conduct of some competitive procedures,” the military expert explained. According to him, with the existing pricing system, almost all funds can be considered inefficiently used ...

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[MPN]

Quote: Hire

If your wife sent you to the store to buy kefir, and you bought beer

And if you went for a beer and suddenly bought yogurt, and letting the change (anyway, there’s already not enough beer) put the children in a piggy bank ....

[Hire]

good afternoon

Quote: MPN

And if you went for a beer and suddenly bought yogurt, and letting the change (anyway, there’s already not enough beer) put the children in a piggy bank ....

If not the wife sent, then this is malicious “inefficient use."

[MPN]

Quote: Hire

If not the wife sent, then this is malicious “inefficient use."

I thought so too ..., he clarified simply whether I think so alone ...

[Alex-a832]

Quote: Hire

If not the wife sent, then this is malicious “inefficient use."

Now all this creation of auditors will be checked by other departments. And not the fact that at least 10% of this amount is confirmed as a significant violation. While you are hanging over the auditor’s soul and for every penny you argue with him, he considers it adequate, but give them freedom ... Once, the auditor somehow calculated the violations by three different methods and added up the result, receiving more than the sum of the contract. All this was introduced into the act and reported to the higher. We laughed and cursed on black. Bottom line: rechecking confirmed 0% of violations from the "identified". These are the results of the audit ...

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: MPN

Quote: Hire

If your wife sent you to the store to buy kefir, and you bought beer

And if you went for a beer and suddenly bought yogurt, and letting the change (anyway, there’s already not enough beer) put the children in a piggy bank ....

formally, it will also be considered inefficient use !!!

[eugraphus]

Instead of kefir, beer is not the intended use of funds. And not effective use - this is when it seems like he bought kefir, but he spilled some, did not put some in the refrigerator and he became moldy, that is, he transferred the product.

[Hire]

Quote: eugraphus

Instead of kefir, beer is not the intended use of funds. And not effective use - this is when it seems like he bought kefir, but he spilled some, did not put some in the refrigerator and he became moldy, that is, he transferred the product.

Yes, perhaps you're right. It will be more accurate.

[PFT]

Quote: Hire

you climbed into your children’s piggy bank to “add”, this is theft. Is this clear? And do not gag.

If you steal from your children, then it’s clear. Here the budget money, that is, MY (I pay taxes), so it is clear.

[wellaut]

Dear zealot of legal subtleties, I will answer you this way: in my opinion, a simple layman says that one thing that is simply called the other is theft.
And casuistry was invented to make it easier to otmazyvat managers who steal.
Like the same Serdyukov, he is a hero, almost a relative of Medvedev, and they have found a loophole in the law.

[Tatanka Yotanka]

to make it clear 2 Crimean bridges stolen and another 100 lards for beer left to wash

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Hire

Do you understand the difference between inefficient use and theft?

Do you understand the difference between buying yogurt and actions that qualify as undermining combat readiness? Something a lot of lawyers divorced. there is "The order of the commander (chief) - the law for the subordinate"and that’s it ... Round - to wear, square - to roll ...
Correctly wrote about Shevtsova. A woman in the army can be neither a general nor a colonel ... Only lieutenant colonel (or sub major) Forgive me the flight crew ...

[Incomprehensible]

Quote: Hire

If your wife sent you to the store to buy kefir, and you bought beer, this is an inefficient use.

In this particular example, this is called inappropriate use of allocated funds)

[Pulya]

Do you understand the difference between inefficient use and theft? Apparently - no

Well, yes - well, yes ... you explain this to your wife when you take beer instead of kefir :)
Sweetheart, this is just not the intended use of our budget ... all in a bunch :)
Your wife will quickly fix your brains where necessary :) :)

[siberalt]

He will come to the Audit Chamber Kudrin, recount in his own way, and everything will be cheeky - bunches.

[Anatole Klim]

Quote: PFT

So they got to the generalshey Shevtsova. Serdyukov and Vasilyeva haven’t been around for a long time, and their business (embezzlement of money) continues and flourishes.

After the resignation of Serdyukov and his assistants, Shevtsova, one of the few from the team of Serdyukov, kept her post, although she submitted a report for dismissal back in 2012, but Shoigu rejected Shevtsova's report with the wording to perform duties until a new specialist is found. But how many years have passed already, but they have not found a replacement for her, maybe they didn’t want to, or maybe they’ll now look for it.

[Nasrat]

Quote: Anatole Klim

Quote: PFT

So they got to the generalshey Shevtsova. Serdyukov and Vasilyeva haven’t been around for a long time, and their business (embezzlement of money) continues and flourishes.

After the resignation of Serdyukov and his assistants, Shevtsova, one of the few from the team of Serdyukov, kept her post, although she submitted a report for dismissal back in 2012, but Shoigu rejected Shevtsova's report with the wording to perform duties until a new specialist is found. But how many years have passed already, but they have not found a replacement for her, maybe they didn’t want to, or maybe they’ll now look for it.

Why replace it .... Shoigu is happy with "established" relations ... he also understood this from the Ministry of Emergencies ..

[Alexey RA]

Quote: PFT

So they got to the generalshey Shevtsova. Serdyukov and Vasilyeva haven’t been around for a long time, and their business (embezzlement of money) continues and flourishes.

There is not only theft, but also inefficient use. And under this, for example, you can summarize the work on hydroaerodromes for the beloved Shoigu Be-200.

FSUE “Spetsstroyengineering at Spetsstroy of Russia” announced a tender for design and survey work on the object: “Construction of the Zavoyko hydroaerodrome in Zavoyko village, Kamchatka Territory” (object code P-34/13) ”in the amount of 79 (seventy nine million forty-six thousand eight hundred thirty-seven) rubles 046 kopecks, including 837,00% VAT on the procurement website.
The sole executor of the order on November 28, 2014 was the Federal State Unitary Enterprise “Main Directorate of Special Construction on the Territory of the Southern Federal District under the Federal Agency for Special Construction” (short name - FSUE GUSST No. 4 under Special Construction of Russia).
The deadline for the submission of documentation (urban planning documentation, surveys, engineering surveys, design documentation) is set 30.06.2015/XNUMX/XNUMX.

© bmpd
This hydroaerodrome is located at the exit of Avacha Bay into the open ocean. And it requires, in addition to the marine part, a concrete runway. Moreover, the Be-200 is an amphibious aircraft and is quietly based on conventional runways. By the way, besides this airdrome, it was planned to design another one - in the freezing bay.
And most importantly, the Be-200 MO did not receive it. And this was already clear at the time of ordering the project - for the plant was already breaking all the deadlines for the previous Be-200 order for the Ministry of Emergencies.

[water]

Quote: Nyrobsky

In my opinion, it’s too early to draw any hasty conclusions and appoint the perpetrators. Today, the Ministry of Defense is one of the most effective ministries, whose activities are like a bone in the throat of our "well-wishers" from Washington, the Pentagon and NATO. I do not affirm, but I cannot deny the presence of “their interest” in the conclusions of “our” Accounting Chamber, since they are delighted with any disruption in the work of the ministry. Dummies in any take a lot of time, effort and money. Something is confirmed, something is not ... The Accounts Chamber will remain on the sidelines. There, things can be mainly solved by transferring the allocated money from one expense item to another expense item, and here the “accountants with prosecutors” are already chasing the tsunami and preparing the bunks.

- I am inclined to believe that this is the only "sober" assessment of the information given in the article. No, I do not want to say that they do not steal in the RF Armed Forces. Alas, they steal! They steal, as elsewhere. It is clear that in the course of the investigation, the amount of 544 billion will be "blown away" first by an order of magnitude, then further reduced by a multiple. Unfortunately, “inflating” the sum of shortcomings and misappropriations is a common practice of “provers” trying in this way to increase their significance. And the reason is simple - no one gives them ears for dishonest checks!
Although, in principle, it can really be a “run over” to Shoigu by order of someone’s foreign “partners”.

[rocket757]

Now we let Kudrin into the “battle” and will we see?

[PFT]

Quote: rocket757

Now we let Kudrin into the “battle” and will we see?

Looks like Golikova was therefore removed, KAPNULA deeply.

[rocket757]

I’m a skeptic in a cube; my life has flown to sharp, prickly corners! So I will put it this way - Nothing there, in the imperious ban-n-n community, does not happen without a team from the top ... though there are clearly a few tops!
They dig only under the one who was allowed to bury.
Nothing new, nothing unusual.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: rocket757

Nothing there, in a powerful ban-n-th community, happens without a command from above.

Dismissal, however, had a place to be, but paper reporting sometimes overlaps visibility ...

[rocket757]

In the words of W. Churchill, about the similar "Undercover bickering of bulldogs!" - they don’t invite us to look under the carpet, they’ll say, write it off, whatever.
It wasn’t very interesting anyway, and after the appointment of a famous person as prime minister, it all became absolutely all right, I don’t expect anything good from that, in principle.

[Non liberoid Russian]

SCA Kudrin Medvedev counts)))) while Putin does not slow down and will nightmare his checks

[Vadim237]

Let them inspire everyone with nightmares - they can steal and spend in the wrong places, they will be less.

[Berkut24]

SchA Kudrin "come, order is in sight ..." He has in his subcortex a dislike for MO. Well, at least with some benefit, you can use this accountant. Away from the gold reserves of Russia, closer to the footcloths. Mutual education. Ingenious!

[DenZ]

I do not think that this is ingenious (well, if only in the context of its separation from gold reserves). In addition to the footcloths, the army has a lot more. As if with his checks (and you can get to the bottom of the post) Kudrin did not torture those who at least try to do everything wisely and without theft in the Moscow Region. We will see in general.

[Dead duck]

inefficient use of federal and other resources, totaling 544,5 billion rubles

Based on the results of the control measures, funds in the amount of 71,2 million rubles were returned to the federal budget

I feel not what we are doing ...

[Munchhausen]

I do not say to make money, even they can’t spend normally.

[naidas]

You cannot earn it normally, but people earned 544,5 billion rubles, funds returned in the amount of 71,2 million rubles, the difference is good earnings.

[Munchhausen]

Yeah, Mystechny bises)
And the profit is 544,5bn. - 71,2 million will be taken to the bank, where they will also be thrown))

[Andrey NM]

Trying to merge Kuzhugetych? If the army goes in the right direction, then you need to decapitate it ...

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Andrey NM

Trying to merge Kuzhugetych?

Kuzhugetovich has long had to retire. After 60 in the army there is nothing to do, because one thing to believe in words, and to see with your own eyes and make decisions based on your own opinion (knowledge of military science) is a completely different matter. We must give way to the young ...

[Andrey NM]

Quote: ROSS 42

After 60 in the army there is nothing to do

Suvorov and after 70 gave the enemy about .... smiling ...

[alex3075]

Quote: eugraphus

Instead of kefir, beer is not the intended use of funds. And not effective use - this is when it seems like he bought kefir, but he spilled some, did not put some in the refrigerator and he became moldy, that is, he transferred the product.

Ineffective use is when I bought kefir, bought beer, and did not take vodka. Vodka without beer or beer without vodka.

[Sinbad]

The question is who heads the accounting chamber and "whose mill is pouring water." Today, the Russian armed forces are the most effective structure, in the sense of development and influence on world politics. Casting a shadow on the army, and if it works out, at least somehow weakening it, is the dream of many of our “partners”, and the agents of their influence, alas, are more than enough.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Sinbad

The question is who heads the accounting chamber and "whose mill is pouring water." Today, the Russian armed forces are the most effective structure, in the sense of development and influence on world politics. Casting a shadow on the army, and if it works out, at least somehow weakening it, is the dream of many of our “partners”, and the agents of their influence, alas, are more than enough.

Yes, no one ... this is precisely the work of the Accounts Chamber ... there was a general check ... they wrote here only about the Defense Ministry !!!

[ochakow703]

Of course, I can be mistaken, and not all angels are in the Ministry of Defense, but at least kill me, I believe the Accounting Chamber even less. Well, like that ...

[shirkoled]

Well, this question will resolve the darkest !!!

[Hiller]

Who is there in the heads of the military medical department ??? "Submit Lyapkina-Tyapkina here"

[migys]

Report of the Accounts Chamber - an official document and the facts of violations speak for themselves. And what types of violations - theft, ineffective, inappropriate, illegal, etc. - the second question. Radish horseradish is not sweeter.

The main thing is that in the finances of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation there are more violations in the 2017 year than all the other main managers of budget funds; not counting only the space sphere. Almost a third (!) Of all identified joint ventures of violations accounted for by the Ministry of Defense.
Moreover, these violations amounting to 544,5 billion rubles in the field of defense, security and law enforcement are just the visible part of the iceberg. The JV report states that a number of documents contain information constituting state secrets, and they are not published. Therefore, the full amount of violations in the MO is, quite possibly, even more. The last time this was in the days of Serdyukov.
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