Upgraded "motooliga" will be easier on 800 kg

Modernization of the legendary floating multipurpose tractor MT-LB, nicknamed "motor-rail", will make it easier on the 800 kg, which will allow to install additional armor, reports RIA News a message from a representative of the Remdiesel plant.

As part of the state defense order, Remdizel is upgrading MT-LB in order to increase the power and controllability of the vehicle, as well as to reduce weight, primarily by installing a new KAMAZ-740.50 engine. Power is increased to 360 horsepower, and the total weight of the armored personnel carrier is reduced by 500 kilograms,

said a plant representative.

The new hydromechanical steering box will allow the car to turn on all gears with a controlled turning radius.

Also, the modernization involves reducing the weight of the tracks: due to the installation of tracks with a closed hinge, weight reduction is achieved by another 300 kilograms. As a result, the total weight of the car will fall on 800 kilograms. This allows you to put additional armor and protect the machine,

told the company.

Recall, the MT-LB (multi-purpose light truck, armored) was widely used in the Soviet era as an armored personnel carrier, as a sanitary evacuation vehicle, as a tractor for T-12 and MT-12 "Rapier" anti-tank guns, as well as a self-propelled mortar and anti-aircraft gun . The machine was actively used in battles in Afghanistan and other military conflicts.

Comments

[newcomer]

fine. modernization of old cars, plus phased delivery of new ones. the implementation of the project to reduce recycling and increase modernization is evident. Well, the added armor doesn’t hurt the old man.

[Yrec]

Nobody will hang armor on a moto league - it is intended for other purposes. This is an armored personnel carrier for cargo and l / s to carry during rotation. They do not plan to poke her under fire, for this there is a BMP.

[newcomer]

Pordon, you read the article? which means under fire, not under fire. according to the written yes. here usually in hostilities the fire itself finds a victim, substitute, do not substitute. Yes, the load is different.

[Yrec]

I read it says: we change the engine and gearbox. About armor - just fabrications.

[newcomer]

engine, gearbox and tracks. but why is this being done, don’t you see the connection?

[Yrec]

I see. NOT to hang armor on a moto league, but to improve consumer properties, unification and maintainability. Moreover, it makes no sense to produce an old engine and gearbox when there are new and better ones. As the resource is developed, the old ones are replaced with new ones, nothing unusual.

[Glory1974]

NOT in order to hang armor on a moto league, but to improve consumer properties,

The article directly says why:

As a result, the total mass of the car will fall by 800 kilograms. This allows put extra armor and protect the car,

[Yrec]

This allows you to put a bar with a jacuzzi, but I doubt that they will. The hull of the motorbike is thin, build up armor with conventional armor plates - reduce structural rigidity. Hanging ceramics is not justifiably expensive.

[Glory1974]

increase armor with ordinary armor plates - reduce structural rigidity. Hanging ceramics is not justifiably expensive.

if you decide to do, then there is an option.

[Nubia2]

initially yes for others
but, new challenges are no longer new.
For a long time already in our Arctic all infantry on MTLBv moves.
and no bmp and btr for you

[Chertt]

Quote: newbie

the implementation of the project to reduce recycling and increase modernization is evident.

Straight headline of the newspaper "Pravda" 80

[newcomer]

Well, there is a project, its implementation is evident. okay.

[ziqzaq]

Quote: newbie

Well, there is a project, its implementation is evident. okay.

This is accurate .... Motolyga is a thing ...........

[igorka357]

Delirium to be honest, not normal ..

[Denis Obukhov]

the modernization field will go DEEP

[bk316]

Yes, for me she already swims well.
I’m all going to buy it, I’m even letting it go.

[igorka357]

Disgustingly floating .. well, and the rights of category D are tractor ..

[credo]

Good news. It should also be added that previously MT-LB was released in Ukraine, in Kharkov, and now it will be released in Russia. Import substitution in action.

[Piramidon]

Quote: credo

will now be released in Russia.

It seems to be about "release" do not write anything. Only about modernization.

[Chertt]

Quote: credo

and now they will be released in Russia. Import substitution in action.

The car is so good that there were no replacement projects for it, only modernization

[AlexVas44]

Quote: credo

..a will now be released in Russia.

It is already being produced in Russia at the Murom plant Muromteplovoz.

[Ivan Tarava]

There are probably thousands of them in storage.

[Denis Obukhov]

It is encouraging that ours began to think before doing. Upgrading is probably easier and cheaper than developing a whole new one. In any case, in third world countries there are those who want to buy.

[newcomer]

export and stuff_ is certainly good. I don’t know the third world, but in our Army, first of all, all outdated models should be modernized.

[Alekseev]

Quote: Denis Obukhov

It is encouraging that ours began to think before doing.

That would be very cool.
But some fears are the replacement of the “tractor”, “unkillable”, albeit heavy, over 1200 kg, YaMZ-238 with a lighter (about 900 kg), automobile, much more forced KamAZ 740.50.
Will such a choice affect the reliability of the engine in harsh conditions of military operation?
In the "north", in the Siberian tundra, etc., the operators prefer YaMZ.
The plant, in many respects, exists for profit and if the customer in the person of GABTU does not follow it strictly, the customer strives to do what is easier, cheaper, etc.

[Rakti-kali]

Quote: Alekseev

But some fears are the replacement of the “tractor”, “unkillable”, albeit heavy, over 1200 kg, YaMZ-238 with a lighter (about 900 kg), automobile, much more forced KamAZ 740.50.
Will such a choice affect the reliability of the engine in harsh conditions of military operation?

The new transmission will allow better load distribution, so that operational reliability should not be affected.

[Sands Careers General]

YaMZ on sausages is just something, our Zampotech brigade swears and spits, motor resources are about nothing.
And change the hemorrhoids.

[Passer]

On art, hz and on matalyga YaAZovsky diesel the most. Due to low revs, it creeps through the mud and does not stall. KAMAZovsky is high-speed. There is a suspicion that when landing in the mud the diesel engine will stall, as on an IFV.

[Sands Careers General]

Maybe, but the technicians in the repair of YaMZ-shny engines swear so high-speed, it’s better not to touch them, otherwise you can easily get a key along the ridge))

[igorka357]

At 238, enough oil with filters during the change .. and you can forget about it!

[igorka357]

YaMZ-238 .. you didn’t confuse anything ..? Maybe your zampotech has such subordinates that the motor resource is about nothing?

[igorka357]

238th .. the smartest engine, it just does not kill, unpretentious, reliable .. and forgives the fool mistakes ..

[whitesnow]

What Kamz allowed to do with itself, Kamaz will not allow it. And the advantages of MTLB in the mountains are likely to come to naught. And on the MTLB put Yaroslavl multi-fuel, which even worked on donkey urine. And among techies, YaMZ is considered a better engine than KamAZ.

[Butchcassidy]

The motorcycle league has serious prospects both for export modernization and domestically - God only knows how many more we have in storage and how they can still be used.

It is worth recalling the reasons for the record longevity of the Soviet RPG-7: the endless modernization and improvement of rocket-propelled grenades, while the launch tube does not essentially change.

So the old Soviet technology can have a very serious export potential. And these should be our contracts in as many cases as possible.

[Evgeniy667b]

A businessman patriot is one who row everything for his country, and not squander right and left. Any storages, if only taken from them, will become empty over time, it will remain ... oops. And with money, will you close yourself as a shield. Well, a very effective defense. !!!

[Butchcassidy]

Criticism is about nothing. MT-LB are in service with Iraq (approx. 400 pcs.), Bangladesh (over 130 pcs.), Kazakhstan (approx. 150 pcs.), Finland (more than 100 pcs.) - the figures are taken from open sources.

The MT-LB operating countries are cited, the political position of which leaves suggest the possibility of allowing representatives of the domestic military-industrial complex to upgrade existing equipment. The most interesting in this regard, I believe, is Iraq.

As for our stocks, I clearly and concretely wrote:

Quote: ButchCassidy

Motoliga has serious prospects both export modernization and domestically - God alone knows how many more we have in storage and how they can still be used.

Where you in my words saw the sentence of "squandering left and right," I do not know.

[igorka357]

MTLB can be used only in the deep rear, and can only be used for its intended purpose, that is, outside of combat operations .. since the AKS-74 caliber 5.45 .. sews a motorcycle from side to side .. it is personally checked .. And yet a question, but what has changed greatly then PGshka .. ? Yes, in principle, nothing ..

[Normal ok]

Quote: igorka357

since the AKS-74 caliber is 5.45 .. sews a motor bike from side to side .. has been personally verified ..

And the memory-23-2 sews a "behu" through the 2 boards, right through. I checked it myself. So, what not to use "behu" on the front end?

[whitesnow]

AKS-74 can penetrate 14 mm of steel, but not 14 mm of armored steel. And why, then, a BMP with 16 mm of armor is suitable for the front edge and MTLB with the 14th is not?

[AlexVas44]

In general, they wrote and discussed on the tractor modernization exactly 5 years ago on the tractor modernization. So it makes sense to remember the forgotten.
https://topwar.ru/27009-transpo...hiny-mt-lb.html

[rotmistr60]

The tractor really proved to be excellent in Soviet times. It is a sin to write off (disarm) good equipment if there is an opportunity to upgrade.

[gukoyan]

Great and reliable car, almost immortal!)

[Sands Careers General]

On the basis of the motor league, native 2C1.
And much more. Still serve!

[cordon332]

Work on the modernization of MT-LB was carried out in Kurgan 15 years ago. The ROC was completely completed and accepted by the customer. The modernization included the installation of a more powerful engine, the use of a continuously variable turning mechanism, shock absorbers of increased efficiency, tracks with RMSh, etc. In general, in terms of the MT-LBM chassis, the technical level approached the BMP-2 without losing their advantages - passability, ease of use, reliability. At the same time, as with any modernization, the weight increased, for which, in order to maintain the supply of melt, volumetric wings like BMP-2 volumetric wings were introduced into the machine. But the MO slept for 15 years, but thank God finally woke up.

[Anchonsha]

That's right, because it’s easier to modernize and improve what allows you to do this than to create something new, and even more so in the equipment serving the troops.

[igorka357]

Seriously, were you thinking about the future? Well then, let's upgrade the T-72 to T-72BZM: VKTBM-23MCH .... and SU-27, to SU-27SM31K6SPVCh8 ... they carried bogus, modernization was needed for some time, in the USSR potentials for modernization have been determined ... now it seems that we are ready to modernize everything, if only not to invent and build new things! This is fundamentally wrong, then we ourselves will cry and howl that are behind!

[Borders]

motya)))))) .. the legendary motya ...

[igorka357]

BETR..legendary BETR ... T-72, legendary T-72..kalash, legendary Kalash ... But can you list all Soviet weapons? Sorry about the legendary motorcycle, Berlin took .. saved thousands of lives? T-34 it’s a legend .. and the motorbike is an ordinary reliable tractor .. unpretentious, but if the motorbike got a stake, it’s easier to quit! Therefore, they were riveted by hundreds, cheap and cheerful!

[Patriot5000]

according to the rules of the motor-league, it brings Rapir mt12 and moves away from combat positions. and what kind of armor is there. so taught, my cat Rapier always drove ZIL.
but it happens that with a microscope you have to hammer nails. how to turn

[Hiller]

Normal horse .. and in the north and the Far East. Simple and reliable. Caterpillars only need to be changed.