Reveal the strongest. Tank Biathlon launched in VBO

In the Amur Region, the All-Army stages of the contests "Tank biathlon ”and“ Suvorov onslaught ”, the strongest crews will represent Russia at the ARMY-2018, reports RIA News.

According to the representative of the BBO, “at the training ground of the Far Eastern Higher Combined Arms Command School (FEFU) near Blagoveshchensk, the strongest teams of the military districts of Russia, Northern fleet and specialized military schools. "

The teams will perform on their vehicles - T-72BZ tanks (in the "Tank Biathlon") and BMP-2 (in the "Suvorov Onslaught"). DVOKU traditionally prepared a team for the competition "Suvorovsky onslaught", the school will present the crew for the "Tank Biathlon" for the first time. Among the infantry crews of the BMP-2, the DVOK team repeatedly became the winner and represented Russia at international competitions of the past years,

he told reporters.

The representative of the district explained that “at the DVOKO training ground, a modern track with obstacles was prepared, and the conditions for its passage in both competitions are similar: tankers will have to complete three rounds; after each they will execute firing at the targets denoting a tank, helicopter, infantry fighting vehicles and a hand-held anti-tank grenade launcher. "

The Grenat-4 UAV operators will transmit target coordinates to adjust the fire of tank crews from closed positions.

“In the“ Suvorov onslaught ”, as the trail passes, participants are waited by a slalom (“ snake ”), a ford, a kurgan, a track bridge and an escarpment. Crews of combat vehicles on firing lines will hit targets imitating infantry fighting vehicles, a helicopter, and an anti-tank grenade launcher using standard weapons, ”the press service said.

The winners of the all-army stages of the competition will go to the Army international competitions, which will be held from July 28 to August 11. According to the press service, "27 is scheduled for international competitions in field, air and maritime training."

Competitions will be held in Russia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan, China and Iran. Participants from 80 countries are invited.

Comments

[Alex-a832]

Unfortunately, again we will not see our NATO “partners” in their super-duper technique. They’re probably afraid of taking away prizes from us, so as not to upset us, modest people ...

[Chertt]

Competitions will be held in Russia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan, China and Iran. Participants from 80 countries are invited.

Well, Iran can still be understood, but how did Azerbaijan get there? Or is it Pashinyanu and the gang, big hello

[Andrey Yuryevich]

everyone is invited.

[Chertt]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

everyone is invited.

Invited, it’s understandable, there were no participants there. But the article says about the stages of T. Biathlon on the territory of these countries

[Sands Careers General]

“Western partners”, I am sure, even black guys from Zimbabwe will lose

[Each other]

Am I interested in the applied value of this show? The best crews of the armed forces are distracted for the sake of showing off on TV. This is instead to engage in real combat training. The stages of biathlon are purely ostentatious. Where, for example, have you seen a stationary helicopter?

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Saling

Where, for example, have you seen a stationary helicopter?

at the airport. have not heard about the "best air defense tanks at the enemy airfield"?

[Each other]

What are you ??? And where is this miraculous airfield, where helicopters hang motionless in the air?

[Alex-a832]

Quote: Saling

Am I interested in the applied value of this show? The best crews of the armed forces are distracted for the sake of showing off on TV. This is instead to engage in real combat training. The stages of biathlon are purely ostentatious. Where, for example, have you seen a stationary helicopter?

Yeah. You still say that this undermines the defense of Russia. Do not invent. Great idea to host these competitions. By refusing to participate in them, the NATO members will credit themselves to their fellow citizens. By the way, they are trying to introduce some alternatives, but these are pathetic attempts in comparison with our organization.

[Per se.]

Quote: Alex-a832

By refusing to participate in them, the NATO members are discrediting themselves to fellow citizens.

For the results of this show to have objectivity, the same type of technique is needed. In real biathlon, everything is specifically specified in the rules, skis, bindings, boots, poles, clothes, and weapons. Moreover, this is necessarily an 5,6 caliber rifle mm (automatic and semi-automatic prohibited). Prohibited optics, including special lenses for the eyes, specifies the weight of the weapon, the magazine, ammunition ... And then the tanks, created for different tasks, with different caliber guns and combat weight, with automatic loader and without, with a diesel engine and a turbine ... Therefore , on our “jumps” for objectivity and can be performed only on T-72 (red, blue, yellow “mdems”) or their clones, such as Chinese. For this "tank biathlon" only certain indicators are needed, specifically for presentation, and not for real combat and improving the fighting qualities of the crews. The trouble will be if such a show for our generals becomes an indicator of real combat training. As for the rest, even though the tank waltz competitions are conducted, or by singing from machine-gun bursts, as long as the equipment is not destroyed, they do not forget to engage in real combat training.

[Alex-a832]

Quote: Per se.

For the results in this show to be objective, you need the same type of technique. In a real biathlon, everything is specifically stipulated in the rules: skis, bindings, boots, poles, clothes, and weapons

As you can see, in fact in the tank heterogeneity is allowed. This also leads to the fact that some stages become insurmountable for some samples of technology. If NATO showed up on their main tanks, I’m sure that they would coordinate participation. In many respects, success depends on the actions of the crews.

[Per se.]

Quote: Alex-a832

If NATO members showed up on their main tanks

Why do they need it? NATO has its own competitions, and more useful for combat training, - Strong Europe Tank Challenge. In 2017, the former Ukraine appeared there. The final competition score was as follows (the type of tanks is indicated in brackets):
1. Austria (Leopard 2A4)
2. Germany (Leopard 2A6)
3. USA (Abrams M1A2 SEP)
4. France (Leclerc)
5. Ukraine (T-64BV)
6. Poland (Leopard 2A5)
The program of the competitions was as follows:
- call fire support;
- driving tanks;
- target recognition;
- determination of the distance to the target;
- tactical medicine and evacuation of the wounded;
- evacuation of a wrecked tank;
- actions when the enemy uses weapons of mass destruction.
In addition, the competition program also included a check on the physical condition of the military - overcoming the specialized obstacle course, the sports relay. NATO members would take our tank with a crew for the competition, another question, but would we ask them to be refused, or would our crew on T-72 take first place from them, then we could make fun of them.

[Each other]

"Tactical medicine" ??? What kind of beast is it? You already enlighten, and that no military doctor knows this term.

[Per se.]

Quote: Saling

"Tactical medicine" ??? What kind of beast is it? You already enlighten, and that no military doctor knows this term.

Sadly, if "no military doctor knows such a term."

Tactical medicine is a measure of medical assistance for soldiers on the battlefield. They are performed by specially trained personnel. Its task is to save lives, transport the injured, prevent the development of severe conditions.

[Each other]

Your grief will become even greater when you find out that the Russian army doesn’t exactly know it, and doesn’t even use it.
You are not pictures of me from the Internet, you are the combat charter of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, with the term "tactical medicine" show me.
After all, I really hope you know the meaning of the word "tactics"?
Then I look at your plan of shooting competition no. Apparently included in "tactical medicine" or offset by a "fire support call"?
Experds are here and let's use smart terms that they think Т

[Nehist]

Gg, here I am, for example, when a hospital attendant course was lying in the hospital :)))

[Per se.]

Quote: Saling

Your grief will become even greater when you find out that the Russian army doesn’t exactly know it, and doesn’t even use it.

But you don’t need to go into the bottle, dear Dmitry. What is the combat regulations of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation needed, if we are talking about NATO, their competitions, their rules? You asked, I answered, I served my service by taking the oath in 1979, something I don’t need to tell me about tactics here, I didn’t study it on the couch, and more than one year. If you yourself are a great expert, flag in your hands.

[Per se.]

Also, as a “postscript”, read at your leisure “Tactical medicine of modern irregular warfare” (Yuriych Yuryevich, Ph.D., senior lieutenant of the Medical Service of the DPR).

[Each other]

Yes, I’ll say that it’s undermining. And at least now choke on the foam that has climbed out of you.
A striking example is the hero of the Russian Federation, Roman Filipov, who took second place at Aviadarts. He was shot down by an illiterate bum from MANPADS. In Aviadarts, the targets are motionless and air defense, even they have no primitive ones.
And do not need these pseudo-patriotic snot about NATO. They are well aware that window dressing and real combat are two big differences.

[Alex-a832]

Quote: Saling

Yes, I’ll say that it’s undermining. And at least now choke on the foam that has climbed out of you.
A striking example is the hero of the Russian Federation, Roman Filipov, who took second place at Aviadarts. He was shot down by an illiterate bum from MANPADS. In Aviadarts, the targets are motionless and air defense, even they have no primitive ones.
And do not need these pseudo-patriotic snot about NATO. They are well aware that window dressing and real combat are two big differences.

A strange example and very naive judgments divorced from life. We prohibit firing at a range at fixed targets?
A few units of personnel and equipment are involved in games. Military all-around too not smart people came up with? Imagine that fighters are also forced to drill for weeks, digging trenches and marching, etc. etc., i.e. classes far from combat training ... yes ... yes.
And in the air darts, they work on fixed targets - it’s a drag, and in real life, the enemy’s fortifications go and run ... And in the exercises, so on all flyers from MANPADS scorched by blanks.
In short, I agree, MO is busy with garbage. Go to Putin, he will immediately see the new Suvorov in you and put Shoigu in place (put him in). Teach fighters to cook properly ...
Fso I can’t, for a long time I didn’t laugh like that. Enough to mow from the army - go, there you will learn about the real service. Or even pre-conscription age? ...

[Each other]

Ooh, and you have a specialist in martial art? And on the organization of military-applied competitions?
A few units say? And they are directly appointed by the order of Shoigu, without qualifying competitions.
Well, tell me tales about the combat effectiveness of the so-called sportrot. And what does it mean for the commander of a combat unit when such an "athlete" "serves" in his unit. Especially somewhere on a warship, where each has a separate combat post.
You yourself served in the army, Wise life experience? Did you hold a combat charter in your hands? . Is it your war that seems to be won by one tank, or by one plane? Moreover, a tank that knows how to do several exercises in front of the audience.
Didn’t they take too much upon themselves to speak for all the Defense Ministry? Have you ever commanded one man?

[Alex-a832]

I have given my command and am already retired.
But I would advise you to foam less and bubble less. Your phrase most of all corresponds to your moral level:

Quote: Saling

And at least now choke on the foam that has climbed out of you.

Keep returning. In addition to emotions, there is zero sense in your comments, so I don’t see any further discussion.

[Sands Careers General]

A striking example is the hero of the Russian Federation, Roman Filipov, who took second place at Aviadarts. Was shot down by an illiterate bum from MANPADS

Are you sure that it’s “bum”, namely “illiterate”?

Or maybe quite competent "Western partner"?

[Corsair0304]

Quote: Saling

The stages of biathlon are purely ostentatious. Where you, for example, saw a stationary helicopter

All competitions are showy. This is the whole point of the competition so that the viewer sees them.
It’s hard to call NATO tank competitions.

[Oden280]

Shooting a helicopter from an anti-aircraft machine gun - exercise 6 of the anti-aircraft gun, target number 25, for a ground target from an anti-aircraft machine gun - 7 anti-aircraft gun, target number 11. All of this is spelled out in the “SOS-BM and T-2011 shooting course. Small arms firing course, combat vehicles and tanks of the armed forces of the Russian Federation "introduced by order of the Ministry of Defense. If you consider yourself smarter than officers for whom this is a job, then a psychiatrist is your assistant. In order to become the best crew capable of performing normally, one needs to be very engaged in combat training. And I don’t see anything bad in popularizing the army.

[Each other]

Ie do you think "window dressing" combat training? Riding along a previously known route and performing several exercises included in the "Shooting Course" performed by one machine is a complete combat training?

[Oden280]

Apparently your knowledge of the army and combat training is based on Indian and Hollywood films, YouTube videos. Although, what else can you expect from a schoolboy.

[Abram]

NATO has an analogue, the Strong Europe Tank Challenge, without ostentatious jumpers with a shot, but serious guys. That year there was Ukraine, on the t-64BM Bulat, if it came to them a whim to look at the T-90, then they would invite more and more friendly India lately, I think it will not refuse. And what sort of t-72b3 you can’t see, sadness is not great

[g1washntwn]

To repeat "ostentatious jumpers" on Abrams, you need to spend two kilos of fairy pollen on fairies. All their Strong Challenge is imprisoned for practicing firing from a safe distance.

[Abram]

why repeat what is no use in battle? But practicing firing with uranium crowbars, which can be filled up with very long cannons without a loading automatic machine, it’s necessary

[g1washntwn]

That is, maneuvers for the infantry and tankers should win while sitting in a dug caponier, and negroes and tomahawks should advance?
I have a big question whether the same Leopard / Merkava / Abrams will show the same speed in a circle with all the exercises, but there are no more questions for you.

[net0103net]

Cool thing this biathlon! Keep it up ! I look at all the competitions .. For anti-aircraft gunners, you also need to come up with something like that))

[sib.ataman]

Quote: Saling

Am I interested in the applied value of this show? The best crews of the armed forces are distracted for the sake of showing off on TV. This is instead to engage in real combat training. The stages of biathlon are purely ostentatious. Where, for example, have you seen a stationary helicopter?

Have you served in the army? Did you organize, conduct and intensify combat training? Not on a soft sofa in the cozy silence of a home room, but in a field in the wind in the rain or snow? With adhering dirt on shoes, 3-4 kg each? Or with frozen hands, not bending fingers, a weathered face, and well, if it is on the grass on the belly, and not on the squishy slush, or snow, drowning in the ears? And if these eagles are crawling, running, frozen and tired to give hope that if they become the best in terms of BP, they will get to the qualifying competition and, perhaps, will go to Moscow? And their eyes light up with excitement ?! But for officers, this includes promotions, awards, titles and prospects ?!
No! Beyond your bowl of soup, your eyes and nose never extended!

[Nehist]

Respected!!! Now the whole battalion will plow these best crews instead of being engaged in BP, their commanders will almost kiss their ass. It's like painting the green grass

[Each other]

Yes that's just the point. People confuse "window dressing" and combat training. And they do not represent the price of this beautiful picture. And something I doubt that the entire battalion will be sent to the final

[Alexey-74]

Can offer our tankers to play their game according to NATO standards, there Ukrainians and then took the T-64 in my opinion .....

[Each other]

Not, but suddenly the NATO will agree and invite. Then it will be impossible to blow all channels about cowardly NATO tankers

[Lerych]

If a lot of guys look at Tank Biathlon and go to enter tank schools - this will already be a benefit from these competitions. Not everyone can watch Eurovision and wag booty.

[Nehist]

In fact, this biathlon is a purely great-publicity and advertising event. The thing is of course necessary, but not as set at the moment

[Lerych]

Write your script and take it out for general discussion. The Chinese do not pull the barrel. They go themselves. And they bring their tanks. So it’s interesting to them.

[IXION]

I lost interest in tank biathlon after, for an unknown reason, the T72 of Russia whistled and smoked white smoke overtaking the T72 of other participating countries. Then even the sound was clear that with his engine they did something to improve speed characteristics, which is unsportsmanlike.

[Alf]

Why not bring the T-80BVM to biathlon?