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Immortal regiment. Crystallization point

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The action "Immortal regiment" gathered more than ten million participants this year. And this is only in Russia! But there were, albeit smaller in scale, stocks in European countries, the USA, Canada and even in Ukraine. The latter, you see, in itself eloquently indicates that the cries for the support of officials, “repayment, state interest and engagement” are no more than an attempt to spit on an armored train passing by. This action, this impulse is so necessary for people, so unite them in something good, good, good, that they are ready, as it turns out, to enter it not thanks to, but in spite of the authorities, the atrocities of the Nazi provocateurs and the threat to get on the “unreliable” lists with all the consequences.




In general, I do not really understand the meaning of all these “revelations”. “Aha,” voluntary adherents of freedom and democratic elections shout out to us, “and the government allocates money, creates conditions, and twists the picture on all television channels!” The procession, then, is unreal !!! ”

No, dear whistleblowers, the present. And the support of the authorities here is not only permissible, but also desirable. And moreover, to her, this very power, there would have been a lot of questions if she had ignored such a powerful public impulse, had withdrawn herself, had let it run its course. And the matter is not how much the action could “unwind” itself, without benevolent media attention and support at all levels. No, everything is much more serious - thus the state shows that, despite all the contradictions, in the main, it is still with its people.

And these “revelations” look quite doubtful against the background of the fact that the whistleblowers themselves without a good grant or salary from the Russian state (and how many of them are fed by the presidential administration, through all sorts of human rights councils, etc.) are mostly Twitter will not write. But we will probably leave the conversation about Vladimir Vladimirovich’s personal serpentarium to another time - now we have, nevertheless, a slightly different reason ...

In general, all these cries of “victory”, photos of young children dressed in the form of Red Army men, invariably accompanied by sarcastic comments, are nasty malice about the labels and names of various goods on the shelves of our stores from helplessness and understanding of their defeat. And then, one may doubt whether it is ethical to use the winning theme for commercial purposes. But you need to understand that this is a clear, obvious evidence that the idea of ​​Victory as a nation that unites the beginning really really mastered the masses. And merchants, whose instincts for such things can be compared with the shepherd's scent, unwittingly, and work for the common cause, and serve as a genuine marker, indicating the deepest penetration of ideas into virtually all strata of society.

And this, I will not hide, well. Even despite the dubious ethical component ...

Getting acquainted with history the movement "Immortal regiment", you understand that it could not have been otherwise. It turns out that in different years similar or similar attempts were made to honor the memory of their fathers, grandfathers and great-grandfathers. The earliest known action took place back in the distant 1965 year, when students of one of the Novosibirsk schools marched through the streets with portraits of veterans. And there were others: in the Russian cities, and in the Ukrainian then Sevastopol, and even in Jerusalem. But each time something was missing - maybe that same benevolent attention of television, that very state support.

But one day it happened. What was dissolved in the air, in the minds of our people, suddenly found a foothold and crystallized into this beautiful, so sincere and sincere action.

And it doesn’t matter who exactly started exactly that successful attempt. Although their names are known, and if desired, you can easily find the names of several Perm journalists, who once not only invented their march, but were able to successfully arrange it, giving a great name, organizational form, etc. Their merit is great, we must pay tribute to them, and yet ...

Still, nothing would have happened if the parents did not sew military uniforms to their young children. If hundreds of thousands, and then millions, did not go to the procession of the "Immortal Regiment", in one hand holding the portrait of his grandfather, and the other leading his child.

And it’s wrong to think that the “Immortal Regiment” is only our tribute to those who did not return from battle or could not live to this day. No, it is our duty to the children, who otherwise could be left alone with the fighters for the right to forget everything, to betray everything, to exchange everything for full consumption and to watch another Hollywood film, in which American soldiers again save the world from the Nazi plague.
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  1. Gardamir
    Gardamir 14 May 2018 06: 20
    +7
    And why is Victory Day not pleasing to you that you are promoting this regiment?
    Indeed, in Victory Day, everything is joy and sorrow. No created their own particular grief. You see, people on Victory Day did not grieve enough for their ancestors. Let her regret it. And again, if everywhere Kremlin partners shit at us, then the regiment was allowed to. Even in Ukraine, where you can’t sneeze, the regiment passed, how so?
    For example, in paragraph 9 of the regiment’s charter, it is said that the regiment is called upon to replace Victory Day. You don’t have enough plywood on the Mausoleum, so you also want to replace Victory Day.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 14 May 2018 06: 23
      +8
      And what did the "Immortal Regiment" not please you? Or are you one of those same "fighters with victory"
      Quote: Gardamir
      And why is Victory Day not pleasing to you that you are promoting this regiment?
      Indeed, in Victory Day, everything is joy and sorrow. No created their own particular grief. You see, people on Victory Day did not grieve enough for their ancestors. Let her regret it. And again, if everywhere Kremlin partners shit at us, then the regiment was allowed to. Even in Ukraine, where you can’t sneeze, the regiment passed, how so?
      For example, in paragraph 9 of the regiment’s charter, it is said that the regiment is called upon to replace Victory Day. You don’t have enough plywood on the Mausoleum, so you also want to replace Victory Day.
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 14 May 2018 06: 30
        +2
        And than you "Immortal Regiment" did not please
        You are a writer, so learn to read. I expressed my opinion, there is something to say against, tell me.
        1. 210ox
          210ox 14 May 2018 06: 34
          +6
          9. Our ultimate goal is to turn the "Immortal Regiment" into a nation-wide tradition of celebrating Victory Day on May 9th. And you find yourself a scammer who perverts the meaning of the phrase ...
          Quote: Gardamir
          And than you "Immortal Regiment" did not please
          You are a writer, so learn to read. I expressed my opinion, there is something to say against, tell me.
          1. Gardamir
            Gardamir 14 May 2018 06: 39
            +4
            in the national tradition of celebrating Victory Day on May 9
            WHAT FOR? When there is Victory Day itself, when there is a Victory Parade.
            You see, you will find an excuse for everything. Then why on the t-34 going first white star?
            1. 210ox
              210ox 14 May 2018 06: 42
              +6
              Why!? To increase the glory and grandeur of the Feat. And about the white star? ... Foolish what to say. It's like the same slippers. But they have nothing to do with the "Regiment".
              Quote: Gardamir
              in the national tradition of celebrating Victory Day on May 9
              WHAT FOR? When there is Victory Day itself, when there is a Victory Parade.
              You see, you will find an excuse for everything. Then why on the t-34 going first white star?
              1. alstr
                alstr 14 May 2018 12: 17
                +4
                I will add the answer to the question why.
                Then, so that our children know their ancestors and do not forget their feat.
                Yes, and we ourselves can learn a lot about them. After all, they are veterans (and just rear workers) did not tell us the whole truth, and often did not like to remember about it. And sometimes they laughed it off. My grandfather, who served the whole war on a submarine in Leningrad, told me that the most important thing was to get to dances (and only now you understand that he was joking).

                As for the authorities, here, too, is not all good. It seems the Immortal regiment began to bother the local authorities. This year, children were forbidden for some reason to go with portraits of veterans. Those. there was a procession, but no portraits. Instead, they issued some sort of flags. It was a district march in St. Petersburg
                Admiralteysky district.
                The good news is that the children are very offended by this. Those. they want to honor the memory of their great-grandfathers sincerely.

                And even when he was little (this is the 80s) on Victory Day, my grandfather went to meetings. After the parade, we went to the Bronze Horseman and met there. And there were plates with the name of the parts.
                Now there are almost no veterans left, and physically it is difficult for them to get out, and there are too many relatives. Therefore, the march is just a new form of past meetings of veterans and a way to feel our community. An immortal regiment is what unites. And such things are insanely small. Alas.
          2. free
            free 14 May 2018 20: 25
            +3
            Quote: 210ox
            9. Our ultimate goal is to turn the "Immortal Regiment" into a nation-wide tradition of celebrating Victory Day on May 9th. And you find yourself a scammer who perverts the meaning of the phrase ...
            Quote: Gardamir
            And than you "Immortal Regiment" did not please
            You are a writer, so learn to read. I expressed my opinion, there is something to say against, tell me.

            But was Victory Day not popular? Why is butter oil? I have nothing against the immortal regiment, but why? Was it impossible to offer to go out with portraits of grandfathers and great-grandfathers on Victory Day?
    2. Vend
      Vend 14 May 2018 08: 58
      +4
      Quote: Gardamir
      And why is Victory Day not pleasing to you that you are promoting this regiment?
      Indeed, in Victory Day, everything is joy and sorrow. No created their own particular grief. You see, people on Victory Day did not grieve enough for their ancestors. Let her regret it. And again, if everywhere Kremlin partners shit at us, then the regiment was allowed to. Even in Ukraine, where you can’t sneeze, the regiment passed, how so?
      For example, in paragraph 9 of the regiment’s charter, it is said that the regiment is called upon to replace Victory Day. You don’t have enough plywood on the Mausoleum, so you also want to replace Victory Day.

      Soon there will not be a single veteran, and with the filing of the West and the liberals, Victory Day will eventually turn into just another holiday. For example, on 23 of February. The one who created the idea of ​​the "Immortal Regiment" looked forward several years. So the memory of our grandfathers and great-grandfathers who defended their homeland in a terrible war will remain with us. Their image will not fade.
    3. Was mammoth
      Was mammoth 14 May 2018 09: 47
      +8
      Quote: Gardamir
      And why is Victory Day not pleasing to you that you are promoting this regiment?

      As Tasha wrote: "Hooked ...". Your comment. Well, some Bandera would have written.
      When the first demonstrations of the Immortal Regiment took place, I said to my own that in importance this is perhaps even stronger than the Victory Parade itself. When I was preparing for the Immortal regiment, I learned something new about my family. And, after all, I am the son of the Victors. I knew them still alive. What then to speak of those to whom they are great-great-grandfathers and great-great-grandmothers? Who has the Great Patriotic War already history? An immortal regiment is a generational link. No wonder green and blue ribbons appear in the newly-minted states. It was as if Belarusians, Kazakhs were fighting separately with fascism .... Ukraine is a separate story.
      The parade itself is a manifestation of the attitude towards the Victory of the state, and among people who came to the Immortal regiment, it is a command of the heart and soul. Now they complement each other.
      I went with my mom. She's under 90. She is out. She said that she would live to see next year, she would go again. After the Immortal regiment we stopped at the grave of my father. We have such a tradition on May 9th. Tied new ribbons. And in the evening they gathered who could. Remembered and celebrated.
      PS
      .1. Immortal Regiment considers preservation in every family its main task personal memory of the generation of World War II.
      9. Our ultimate goal is to turn the "Immortal Regiment" into a nation-wide tradition of celebrating May 9 Victory Day.
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 14 May 2018 13: 58
        +3
        even stronger than the Victory Parade itself
        But why? In France, for example, Bastille Day has been celebrated for hundreds of years. What prevents us from celebrating Victory Day. After all, Victory Day, this is not Putin and Yeltsin. Victory Day is Stalin, Zhukov, Beria, Pokryshkin and many more surnames. But the regiment is Putin.
        The parade itself is a manifestation of the attitude towards the Victory of the state, and among people who came to the Immortal regiment, it is a command of the heart, soul
        I do not agree. The parade was created by veterans, the same Brezhnev did not sit in the rear. But the regiment is called upon to first replace, and then bring to the streets kolizurengoy.
        1. Standard
          Standard 14 May 2018 17: 08
          +1
          Quote: Gardamir
          But the regiment is Putin.

          Joke?!?!?
          Putin is remembered only by those who had to wait an entire hour while he was photographed with Netanyahu. So, next year they will come later, so as not to get into this situation.
          But in reality there were a lot of people, so they moved slowly. And for me it was hard. On the trail. year, I don’t even know ...
          But after the very first participation in the procession (2 years ago) this was not enough !!!
          We looked at the parade - and forward.
          If you have not experienced - it is difficult to tell this feeling.
        2. Was mammoth
          Was mammoth 14 May 2018 23: 40
          +3
          Quote: Gardamir
          even stronger than the Victory Parade itself
          But why?

          Veterans did not create a parade; they won the Victory to our people and paid the highest price for it. All. Both front-line soldiers and rear workers.
          Nobody bothers me to celebrate the Victory and remember the departed already.
          Yes, Stalin, Zhukov, Brezhnev and many other Winners, and I would welcome if their descendants would go in the ranks of the Immortal regiment. Maybe someone was walking, I don’t know. Any other with their portraits is a provocateur like Poklonskaya with a portrait of the king. See Charter. Ah Putin? Putin walked with a portrait of his father. My mother was walking with a portrait of my father; I was carrying a portrait of one of her brothers. Could take a portrait of any of the brothers mother or father, everyone fought.
          I remember and my granddaughters will remember. I am sure. So educate. They have a vaccine against kolizurengoy. They know that in the photo we have a young girl with lieutenant epaulets, this is the sister of the great-grandmother, and the young man in the jacket is her brother, who lost his leg under Smolensk in the 41st .... And about grandfathers, and about their brothers. Everyone fought. And why they fought. My grandchildren held a funeral in their hands. Many of today's youth do not even imagine how they look. The immortal regiment gives impetus to the interest of youth in the past of their family and in the history of their country as a whole. In this I see its significance.
          Are you embarrassed by a St. George or a guards tape, not red? For me, this is a connection between generations of defenders of the Motherland. And, a wise decision as a symbol. With what symbol do you see, say, Princess Obolenskaya, who died in the struggle against the Nazis? Nobody will say a word to you if you come with a red ribbon or flag.
          PS Ah, power? Any authority will try to influence the broad social movement.
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 15 May 2018 00: 01
            +2
            Quote: There was a mammoth
            For me, this is the connection of generations of defenders of the homeland. And, a wise decision as a symbol

            Thank. You said better than I wanted to say.
            Your comment has been saved entirely, there all right. It's ... rarity now, so be it
      2. Oleko
        Oleko 26 May 2018 16: 06
        +1
        Quote: There was a mammoth
        .1. The "Immortal Regiment" considers the preservation in each family of a personal memory of the generation of the Great Patriotic War as its main task. 9. Our ultimate goal is to turn the "Immortal Regiment" into a nation-wide tradition of celebrating May 9 Victory Day.

        Thanks to the Immortal Regiment, I, the son of a WWII veteran, became interested in my grandfathers, whom I did not know, both died in the 41st, called my mother (my father died in 2013 at the age of 90), said I want the next year ( 2019) to go in a column with a portrait of father and grandfathers. Mother (she is 91 years old) said she would pick up photographs and find a track record for the father of WWII. I turned to Podolsk, on the website of the Central Archive of Moscow Region, found award sheets for my father. 4 military orders from an officer-tanker, commander of a repair company for the competent and skillful evacuation of wrecked tanks during the battle. That's what Immortal Regiment is for me.
    4. Gepirion
      Gepirion 14 May 2018 11: 20
      +6
      And untwist, because it is a new ACTION. For the old one with the tape is already out of date, she is already almost 13 years old. It is necessary at the end to replace the concepts and replace Victory Day with stocks. And such "comrades" as this author are trying to convince that this is all good. Well, according to the meaning of the article, if you are against, then you are the 5th column, etc. etc.
      The author forgot to mention that the apotheosis of the regiment was Poklonskaya with a bloody portrait of Nikolashka. It's amazing that no one spat in her face ...
      1. 210ox
        210ox 14 May 2018 14: 24
        +1
        It’s not old, and it won’t grow old ... Victory Day is filled with new content. In the initial period of Brezhnev’s reign, the Eternal Flame, Parade (and this is also “action” if you follow your thoughts), and people already say the “recent history” of Russia began to wear the St. George Ribbon and later photographs of our soldiers and relatives who took part in the defeat of fascism. This is just a new content. About Poklonskaya .. I consider this an unwise act.
        Quote: Gepirion
        And untwist, because it is a new ACTION. For the old one with the tape is already out of date, she is already almost 13 years old. It is necessary at the end to replace the concepts and replace Victory Day with stocks. And such "comrades" as this author are trying to convince that this is all good. Well, according to the meaning of the article, if you are against, then you are the 5th column, etc. etc.
        The author forgot to mention that the apotheosis of the regiment was Poklonskaya with a bloody portrait of Nikolashka. It's amazing that no one spat in her face ...
      2. Standard
        Standard 14 May 2018 17: 17
        0
        Quote: Gepirion
        with a portrait of Nicholas the bloody

        Do you know about epaulettes of the “tsarist” in 1943?
        About the guns of the Middle Ages.
        On the processions of the cross .. Yes, and a lot of other things.
        So you still have to find out that the Sovereign Emperor Nikolai Alexandrovich has not changed his military rank, in which his father the Sovereign Emperor Alexander Alexandrovich elevated.

        Moreover, in "our" Immortal Regiment, the procession of recognized icons is inappropriate.
        There is a real procession for this.
      3. Oleko
        Oleko 26 May 2018 16: 11
        0
        Quote: Gepirion
        The author forgot to mention that the apotheosis of the regiment was Poklonskaya with a bloody portrait of Nikolashka. It's amazing that no one spat in her face ...

        Poklonskaya did not become the apotheosis. They spat on her face (figuratively) more than once. And the last caricature of her causes nothing but laughter.
  2. 210ox
    210ox 14 May 2018 06: 21
    +3
    Nothing will come of these "shit-democratizers" .. Even numerous mistakes in advertising and greeting cards, inappropriate stickers and slippers with the image of veterans could not spoil the holiday.
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 14 May 2018 06: 28
    +12
    whistleblowers themselves without a good grant or salary from the Russian state (and how much they feed from the presidential administration, through all sorts of human rights councils, etc.) for the most part will not write a post on Twitter.
    To the author +. Even comments are not required.
    For gardamir
    And why is Victory Day not pleasing to you that you are promoting this regiment?
    But does the "Immortal Regiment" replace Victory Day? In my opinion, it complements and moreover, since picked up in many countries.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 14 May 2018 06: 36
      +6
      But does the "Immortal Regiment" replace Victory Day?
      Something I don’t believe, people who created home2, the Unified State Exam, hanging Mannerheim boards, hiding the Mausoleum and suddenly decided to supplement Victory Day. Why supplement it?
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 14 May 2018 06: 42
        +8
        Try to explain this to the millions of people who sincerely go to this event, and not by order.
        1. Gardamir
          Gardamir 14 May 2018 06: 54
          +5
          to millions of people
          remember how millions of people married Yeltsin in August 1991, thereby supporting the destruction of the USSR .. The authorities are beneficial, let people engage in patriotism than they think, why during the sanctions many were enriched even more.
          And for the memory of the ancestors in the Union was a Minute of Silence. Yes, and remembered at the evening table.
          1. volodimer
            volodimer 14 May 2018 07: 21
            +9
            Nobody forbids you to limit yourself to a minute of silence and to remember at the evening table. And for many people, the Immortal Regiment is an opportunity to share their ancestors with other stories and hear their stories in return. This does not allow us to break the memory of the great war into small personal fragments, but just creates our common memory - the memory of the people.
            1. Gardamir
              Gardamir 14 May 2018 07: 46
              +3
              nobody forbids
              but red is getting smaller. Nevertheless, it’s just that we already went through it, even in our memory there is nothing to prohibit, just to correct. Another twenty years will pass, and what difference does it make, who and what remembers, there will be neither eyewitnesses, nor their descendants. And everyone will wear ribbons, the Victory Parade will be forgotten (not canceled, just forgotten) and there will be a regiment. I am opposed, only because I saw how one was replaced by another.
              1. ghby
                ghby 14 May 2018 08: 17
                +11
                Quote: Gardamir
                Another twenty years will pass, and what difference does it make, who and what remembers, there will be neither eyewitnesses, nor their descendants. And everyone will wear ribbons, Victory Parade will be forgotten (not canceled, just forgotten) and there will be a regiment. I am opposed, only because I saw how one was replaced by another.

                You are not right. Immortal regiment without the Victory Parade, will not be able to live, it organically complements it. We can say that it is a continuation of the Victory Parade. The Victory Parade is attended by the best, not all. The immortal regiment allows all those who did not live to victory, those who won and returned to pass in the Victory Parade, and most importantly their descendants who help their departing ancestors in the Victory Parade, remember and are proud of them.
                P.S. twenty-odd years ago, watching the fireworks on May 9, the boys and I thought the same thing, that ten or twenty years would pass, and everyone would not remember the reasons for the fireworks. But we were wrong, and that’s good. So you will be wrong.
                1. Gardamir
                  Gardamir 14 May 2018 13: 59
                  +2
                  So you will be wrong.
                  I will be glad if it turns out that I'm wrong, but so far I doubt it.
          2. olimpiada15
            olimpiada15 14 May 2018 16: 09
            +2
            In August 1991, Moscow alone married Yeltsin. And all this coup was supported only by Muscovites. And the country is not Moscow. That's when people went out in cities across the country against the collapse of the economy — no one showed it. And the miners who came to protest in Moscow as soon as they did not spit on the media. Yeltsin was supported only by local authorities - it was they who appropriated to themselves all the enterprises, starting with profitable efficient industries.
            And the war went on according to the fate of almost all Soviet people. Those who survived the war did not like to remember and tell, too hard. And the memory action on May 9th is very important for the country. And people came out, such mass events as this year probably have not been since Soviet times. And liberoids are very angry: they are afraid to stay out of work.
            1. Gardamir
              Gardamir 14 May 2018 16: 56
              +2
              And share memory
              You just say one thing: why do you not like Victory Day and the Festive Parade? Why do you need to invent something else?
              Once again, the regiment was invented by those who introduce baby boxes, who came up with house2 and the exam.
              1. freddyk
                freddyk 14 May 2018 23: 07
                +1
                Quote: Gardamir
                And share memory
                You just say one thing: why do you not like Victory Day and the Festive Parade? Why do you need to invent something else?
                Once again, the regiment was invented by those who introduce baby boxes, who came up with house2 and the exam.

                Yes, because it's the same show. From Victory Day made a show. Business project. And this is a long time ago. I used to go with a small, congratulated veterans. Last year, no one was met, but the whole park in a drunken cattle with St. George ribbons on everything where you can stick. This year did not go. May 8 flowers on Piskarevka. 9th to the grave of his grandfather. This is not a holiday, but a day of remembrance. IMHO. But I have nothing against the regiment.
      2. Moore
        Moore 14 May 2018 07: 25
        +6
        Quote: Gardamir
        Something I don’t believe, people who created home2, the Unified State Exam, hanging Mannerheim boards, hiding the Mausoleum and suddenly decided to supplement Victory Day. Why supplement it?

        Faith is your personal.
        People of over ten million voted here for this addition. If you are a person with an active lifestyle, demonstrate it. Find like-minded people, follow the path of people moving with posters like: "People, you are meanly deceived by vile bureaucrats! Go home, drink vodka - remember those who left in a front-line way!"
        1. Gardamir
          Gardamir 14 May 2018 07: 49
          +1
          over ten million
          it is your faith. But you did not say anything, why come up with something else where you already have it? Here is your name, Andrey, and in the evenings, will you be Mikhail?
          1. Moore
            Moore 14 May 2018 08: 56
            +2
            Substitute concepts. If someone decided to call Victory Day the day of sorrow and repentance, they would be right.
            In my case, it is as if to my DR, which I used to celebrate one way or another, would add, for example, the female struggle in the mud. I would not mind.
            1. Gardamir
              Gardamir 14 May 2018 14: 04
              +3
              If someone decided to call Victory Day the day of sorrow and repentance, they would be right.
              windows open gradually.
              ball
              sword
              a piece of chalk
              pier
              Goal
              So it is now. First, the Mausoleum for plywood, then ribbons, then a regiment. And now, without the red banners, the St. George cavaliers are marching. By the way, recently, this year, they added a new feature, as Nikolay2 had a positive impact on the Victory in 1945. So Poklonsky, not just like that, went to the regiment with portraits of myrrh-streaming.
              1. Standard
                Standard 14 May 2018 17: 23
                +1
                Quote: Gardamir
                And now, without the red banners, the St. George cavaliers are marching.

                It seems that you are a little dumb.
                1. Gardamir
                  Gardamir 14 May 2018 17: 53
                  +3
                  a little dumb.
                  I just remember being cheated in the late 80s. I see how now the oligarchs are getting richer despite sanctions. Vekselberg again threw money, well, and the people are offered to rally and defend the oligarchs.
                  And then you have other reasons? It was Victory Day and suddenly everyone saw the light and wanted to go by the regiment.
                2. free
                  free 14 May 2018 20: 48
                  +1
                  Quote: Norma
                  Quote: Gardamir
                  And now, without the red banners, the St. George cavaliers are marching.

                  It seems that you are a little dumb.

                  Do you know anything about overtone windows? Gardrmir is right! Why add when you have everything you need? For me, this is an attempt not to quietly forget the Victory Day first. If complement Victory Day, why then drape the mausoleum?
    2. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 14 May 2018 15: 28
      +4
      Mr. Gardamir is doing his best to promote the OPPOSITION of Victory Day and the Immortal Regiment. And you bother him with your inappropriate comments! Man performs an important task in the framework of the project of separation of descendants from ancestors. In Russia, this very unity of generations is especially strong in comparison with the rest of the world, so special attention is directed here.
      The veneration of ancestors, the exaltation of their deeds within the framework of uniting themselves with them, is the most hated, most problematic, most attacked modern world order. Modern man should not honor ancestors. He should not remember them at all! He lives alone and only for himself! Do not dare to remember about some kind of grandfather or great-grandfather!
      Everywhere these wrong Russians climb across a carefully guided and heavily funded trend. Bad people, bad country, destroy everyone ...
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 14 May 2018 17: 00
        +1
        spins up
        Shalom Michael. You are like a true Semit, strictly according to the training manual. Memory is Victory Day, why did you come up with the regiment? At one time, millions invested to promote Valentine's day, now you want to replace our Victory with your regiment.
  4. tasha
    tasha 14 May 2018 07: 40
    +6
    I am not a sentimental person, but ...
    When they were walking with the children in the Immortal Regiment column on one of the balconies, I saw an old grandmother with a portrait ... Husband, probably ... Somehow hooked ...
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 14 May 2018 09: 00
      +4
      The immortal regiment organically complements the Parade and the people go on their own, voluntarily, touching the souls of the departed souls ... This is the succession of generations!
      1. free
        free 14 May 2018 20: 53
        +1
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        The immortal regiment organically complements the Parade and the people go on their own, voluntarily, touching the souls of the departed souls ... This is the succession of generations!

        The people no doubt go of their own accord, but what is the plan of the organizers?Why supplement, correct what already exists?
        1. Uncle lee
          Uncle lee 15 May 2018 01: 11
          0
          Quote: free
          ? Why supplement

          But what about without their pointing and directing?
          1. tasha
            tasha 15 May 2018 04: 26
            0
            In any case, such a massive movement requires organization ... And you can’t get away from it .. Last year, one of the volunteers laughed at the formation of the columns. The guy in berets, black trousers and a vest ordered: don’t go there, stay here, it’s forbidden ... I called him aside and said: "Man, look at yourself from the side. People have come for the holiday ...". He smiled, realized .. winked
  5. Prometey
    Prometey 14 May 2018 10: 35
    +4
    Everyone has their own need. I will never go out with portraits of my great-grandfathers - I do not understand this pagan ritual. I’d better remember the grave in silence - I feel better.
  6. Gepirion
    Gepirion 14 May 2018 11: 32
    +4
    Quote: volodimer
    Nobody forbids you to limit yourself to a minute of silence and to remember at the evening table. And for many people, the Immortal Regiment is an opportunity to share their ancestors with other stories and hear their stories in return. This does not allow us to break the memory of the great war into small personal fragments, but just creates our common memory - the memory of the people.


    The memory of the war is especially strong, isn't it?
    1. volodimer
      volodimer 14 May 2018 13: 23
      +1
      This is her choice ... By the way, in Donetsk they carried a large portrait of I.V. Stalin, which is probably more appropriate. But here we are talking about something completely different. And do not pretend that you do not understand.
      1. volodimer
        volodimer 14 May 2018 13: 51
        +1
        An immortal regiment is not a substitute for a parade. This is an opportunity to show your pride in your ancestors. And probably the best way of telling your children about their family heroes is to show them that other people are walking nearby and they also have their own heroes. And so, each and all together, our people won in that war. Remembering the silence at the table or on the grave is also correct, but it will not give such an effect. But Poklonskaya, yes ... each has his own cockroaches in his head ...
    2. free
      free 14 May 2018 20: 56
      +1
      Quote: Gepirion
      Quote: volodimer
      Nobody forbids you to limit yourself to a minute of silence and to remember at the evening table. And for many people, the Immortal Regiment is an opportunity to share their ancestors with other stories and hear their stories in return. This does not allow us to break the memory of the great war into small personal fragments, but just creates our common memory - the memory of the people.


      The memory of the war is especially strong, isn't it?

      She doesn’t go to the parade on Victory Day with a portrait of the king, but here is the immortal regiment where everyone carries the portrait which he considers necessary, a coincidence?
      1. volodimer
        volodimer 15 May 2018 02: 12
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        What makes you so obsessed with Poklonskaya, just like Boris Godunov from the holy fool ...
  7. panzerfaust
    panzerfaust 14 May 2018 17: 02
    +1
    All the same, in Soviet times, May 9th was celebrated as a day of remembrance and sorrow. There was no parade. There was a procession of veterans, the laying of wreaths, a moment of silence. And here with all rehearsals there are three parades, and even aviation! I am for the "Immortal Regiment", my grandfather also went to war and did not return, but the parades should be rescheduled for another time.
  8. yawa63
    yawa63 16 May 2018 17: 28
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    Quote: Gardamir
    to millions of people
    remember how millions of people married Yeltsin in August 1991, thereby supporting the destruction of the USSR .. The authorities are beneficial, let people engage in patriotism than they think, why during the sanctions many were enriched even more.
    And for the memory of the ancestors in the Union was a Minute of Silence. Yes, and remembered at the evening table.

    What kind of figs did millions marry Yeltsin in 1991? Millions of Muscovites? Who are whining now that lives badly? I personally was near the White House in 1991 and saw everything (I just came to Moscow to study at the academy)! A crowd of homeless people, pseudo-Afghans and youths "with a burning eye"!
    1. Oleko
      Oleko 26 May 2018 16: 51
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      Quote: yawa63
      What kind of figs did millions marry Yeltsin in 1991? Millions of Muscovites? Who are whining now that lives badly? I personally was near the White House in 1991 and saw everything (I just came to Moscow to study at the academy)! A crowd of homeless people, pseudo-Afghans and youths "with a burning eye"!

      I stood on the bridge near the hotel "Ukraine". No homeless people, psvdoafgansov and young men. I came because Yazov brought tanks into Moscow to crush people. PRESS. Clear? It was a real coup d'etat, organized by the State Emergency Committee, drunk Yanaev, Pugo, Pavlov, Kryuchkov ... Behind the "young men with a burning eye," stood tens of thousands of workers in factories who brewed gouges, blocked tank columns with laden dump trucks ... Next to me there was a woman of 40 years old, the senior economist of one enterprise (bum, pseudo ....., a girl with a burning eye), she also came because of the tanks, and not because of Yeltsin. (They knew that there was one against Gorbachev ... and so on.)
      Now I'm not in Moscow. After many years, much has become clear and clear.