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Now "tactical." Thompson submachine gun launched in the US

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The legendary Thompson submachine gun, also known as Tommy Gan, was re-released in a “tactical” version. The company Auto-Ordnance announced the start of sales of the model Tactical Tommy Gun, reports "Warspot" with reference to the portal guns.com


Now "tactical." Thompson submachine gun launched in the US

Classic and "tactical" "Tommy-Ghana


For the first time, a presentation of a new submachine gun, similar to a hybrid of the AR-15 and Tommy Gang, was held at the SHOT Show 2018, which took place in Las Vegas from 23 to 26 in January. Then Mun Kukchin, head of the Kahr Firearms Group, which includes Auto-Ordnance, announced the imminent release of the Tactical Tommy Gun model, reporting its approximate price of $ 1000.

However, at the start of sales, the cost of the "tactical" Tommy Gun was significantly higher - the retail price recommended by the manufacturer for the USA was $ 2229. Tactical Tommy Gun is available in .45ACP caliber, while Auto-Ordnance indicates that a version for 9 × 19 mm can be released later.

Tactical Tommy Gun comes complete with a telescopic butt, barrel cover and pistol grip, "borrowed" from the AR-15. In addition, the entire length of the receiver and the housing is a Picatinny rail. Tactical Tommy Gun comes bundled with 50 and 20 charging stores.
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  1. vkl.47
    vkl.47 11 May 2018 11: 50
    +6
    Mutilated classics
    1. Teberii
      Teberii 11 May 2018 11: 57
      +4
      Everything new is well forgotten old. You can’t take to war. And for self-defense, otherwise the zombies do not sleep.
      1. Shurik70
        Shurik70 11 May 2018 12: 53
        +1
        And the lower one in the photo (historical) is more beautiful.
        By the way, it is not clear how the front handle is attached to the trunk on it. The mount is not visible.
        1. seregatara1969
          seregatara1969 11 May 2018 16: 21
          0
          so the barrel cover was added - the front handle is no longer relevant
      2. Topotun
        Topotun 11 May 2018 14: 23
        +2
        For self-defense, their MP-5 is better. How to carry it.
    2. vorobey
      vorobey 11 May 2018 12: 07
      +7
      Quote: vkl.47
      Mutilated classics


      45 caliber ... 11,43 mm ... the machine for firing bursts comes complete or as an option?
      1. novel66
        novel66 11 May 2018 12: 21
        +3
        and there the cartridge is weak - they wrote that our aviation technicians, when they were given them for the defense of the airfield, tried and were surprised at the short range. so that return request
        1. inkass_98
          inkass_98 11 May 2018 12: 50
          +5
          Quote: novel xnumx
          and there is a weak cartridge request

          The cartridge is not weak, it has a high stopping effect due to its large caliber. But for the same reason and because of the shape of the bullet - high dispersion at a distance of more than 50 m., As well as low penetration. Somewhat different purposes were European and American PP and pistols.
      2. Genry
        Genry 11 May 2018 12: 49
        +1
        Quote: vorobey
        45 caliber ... 11,43 mm ... the machine for firing bursts comes complete or as an option?

        This is a pistol cartridge.
    3. Serge Gorely
      Serge Gorely 11 May 2018 12: 23
      +2
      Quote: vkl.47
      Mutilated classics

      You sho! The main thing is the picatinny rail ... It's just as cool as a toilet for the Ukrainians in a yellow-black block color!
    4. Ushly_bashkort
      Ushly_bashkort 11 May 2018 12: 27
      +1
      If you add a tactical hilt, then completely to the original.
  2. tap
    tap 11 May 2018 11: 51
    +6
    Favorite Stanley Ipkis submachine gun.
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 11 May 2018 12: 12
      +3
      Quote: zapfen
      Favorite Stanley Ipkis submachine gun.

      Yes, there is one ...
    2. novel66
      novel66 11 May 2018 12: 24
      +3
      I liked more in these hands
    3. figwam
      figwam 11 May 2018 12: 26
      +5
      Quote: zapfen
      Favorite Stanley Ipkis submachine gun.

      Not only...
    4. Sands Careers General
      Sands Careers General 11 May 2018 12: 55
      +2
      Is this the one that he collected from balloons and dispersed the gopniks? Thinly joked laughing
  3. Ivan Tarava
    Ivan Tarava 11 May 2018 11: 54
    0
    Tommy Gun is not the same.
    1. Ased
      Ased 11 May 2018 12: 05
      +6
      The idea of ​​the Kalashnikov concern:
      PPSh M 2019
      Weapons of victory for export.
      1. Tank hard
        Tank hard 12 May 2018 08: 51
        +2
        Quote: ASed
        The idea of ​​the Kalashnikov concern:
        PCA

        Yes, it seems like real PCA for sale on hunts - licenses for diced. Just removed the possibility of firing automatic. Buy calmly, and weapons, and history. Why invent a new one?
  4. Vard
    Vard 11 May 2018 12: 03
    0
    So I do not understand ... can he shoot in bursts? They seem to be forbidden ...
    1. Ased
      Ased 11 May 2018 12: 12
      +1
      Quote: Vard
      They seem to be forbidden ...


      Like on TV; joke
      Here you can play, here from the left, and here we wrapped the fish.

      PS -, from the "free" possession of weapons killed people
      more than in any Amer war of the 20th century.
      1. Vard
        Vard 11 May 2018 12: 14
        +3
        Well, let’s put it from the kitchen equipment that we haven’t survived until retirement ...
      2. Merold
        Merold 11 May 2018 12: 15
        +2
        Quote: ASed

        PS -, from the "free" possession of weapons killed people
        more than in any Amer war of the 20th century.

        In America, much less people die from a gunshot per year than in Russia from kitchen knives and other household appliances.
        1. vorobey
          vorobey 11 May 2018 12: 20
          +8
          Quote: Merold
          Quote: ASed

          PS -, from the "free" possession of weapons killed people
          more than in any Amer war of the 20th century.

          In America, much less people die from a gunshot per year than in Russia from kitchen knives and other household appliances.


          see the statistics .. otherwise unfounded like that ..

          here is a link to the BBC..https: //www.bbc.com/russian/international/20
          15/10 / 151002_usa_violence_statistics

          According to the Archive of Violence with Weapons, from the beginning of this year, 9 956 people were killed and more than 20 thousand were injured from firearms.

          we don’t take police into account .. they legally cough up about a thousand annually
          1. Merold
            Merold 11 May 2018 12: 23
            0
            Quote: vorobey
            Quote: Merold
            Quote: ASed

            PS -, from the "free" possession of weapons killed people
            more than in any Amer war of the 20th century.

            In America, much less people die from a gunshot per year than in Russia from kitchen knives and other household appliances.


            see the statistics .. otherwise unfounded like that ..

            Easily. Only can we first ask the comrade to lead, who claimed that
            from "free" possession of weapons killed people
            more than in any Amer war of the 20th century.

            Or is it not unfounded?
            1. vorobey
              vorobey 11 May 2018 12: 26
              +5
              Quote: Merold
              Easily. Only can we first ask the comrade to lead, who claimed that


              understood ... balabol. and let me again be warned for this word they write out ...

              nastenka ... ordinary .. here again I called the man a balabol ...
              1. Merold
                Merold 11 May 2018 12: 41
                0
                Quote: vorobey
                Quote: Merold
                Easily. Only can we first ask the comrade to lead, who claimed that


                understood ... balabol. ..

                It’s especially funny to hear from you.
                balabol. and let me warn you again for this word

                You grandfather do not worry, I will not complain about you.
                1. vorobey
                  vorobey 11 May 2018 13: 14
                  +5
                  Quote: Merold
                  Quote: vorobey
                  Quote: Merold
                  Easily. Only can we first ask the comrade to lead, who claimed that


                  understood ... balabol. ..

                  It’s especially funny to hear from you.
                  balabol. and let me warn you again for this word

                  You grandfather do not worry, I will not complain about you.


                  whatever it is --- in your words .. - easy .. grandfather forgive ...

                  statistics from your mouth will be?
                  1. Merold
                    Merold 11 May 2018 13: 35
                    0
                    Quote: vorobey

                    statistics from your mouth will be?

                    Well, I promised. You first ask the person about the statistics that I requested above, and then I quote.
                    And then something like that happens selectively for you.
                    PS: I hope you did not decide to "catch" me in absolute terms?
              2. Ased
                Ased 11 May 2018 12: 52
                0
                Nastya do not try

                :))

                When there in America, a crowd of people was taken from a cool quick-firing rifle?

                And by the way, from what Kenedy soaked?
                By the way, they didn’t shoot at the authorities.
                1. Dedall
                  Dedall 11 May 2018 21: 48
                  +1
                  "Little things" were banned just after checking the carnage at the First Secretary of the Communist Party of Kyrgyzstan. They are still afraid to allow it again, although there were clan clashes there. Now, in connection with an increase in the retirement age and the removal of early retirement pensions from the military, it seems that not only pneumatics, but slingshots will be banned.
        2. Ased
          Ased 11 May 2018 12: 21
          +1
          Quote: Merold
          Quote: ASed

          PS -, from the "free" possession of weapons killed people
          more than in any Amer war of the 20th century.

          In America, much less people die from a gunshot per year than in Russia from kitchen knives and other household appliances.


          Do you think there are fewer people who die in crime?
          Much more.
          1. Ased
            Ased 11 May 2018 12: 28
            0
            damn, you too lazy to google?
            1. vorobey
              vorobey 11 May 2018 13: 27
              +5
              Quote: ASed
              damn, you too lazy to google?


              his task is to troll and not google lol lol
              1. Merold
                Merold 11 May 2018 13: 48
                0
                Quote: vorobey
                Quote: ASed
                damn, you too lazy to google?


                his task is to troll and not google lol lol

                The man said, merged on the question of how, on May 3, the Su-35 dispersed the F-15 and F-16.
                1. Ased
                  Ased 11 May 2018 18: 20
                  0
                  I don’t understand where I am and where this topic is!
          2. Merold
            Merold 11 May 2018 12: 44
            0
            Quote: ASed
            Quote: Merold
            Quote: ASed

            PS -, from the "free" possession of weapons killed people
            more than in any Amer war of the 20th century.

            In America, much less people die from a gunshot per year than in Russia from kitchen knives and other household appliances.


            Do you think there are fewer people who die in crime?
            Much more.

            In absolute terms, more. In relation to the number of population, less. Yes, at least vorobeyask. A man knows a lot about one-way statistics for .... 2015.
            1. vorobey
              vorobey 11 May 2018 13: 26
              +5
              Quote: Merold
              In absolute terms, more. In relation to the number of population, less. Yes, at least ask, vorobey. A man knows a lot about one-way statistics for .... 2015.


              from you except blah blah nothing at all ...

              here you have statistics on ours for 17 years ..



              https://genproc.gov.ru/upload/iblock/aab/Ежемесяч
              % 20 collection% 20 December% 202017.pdf study page 32 laughing laughing
              1. Merold
                Merold 11 May 2018 13: 55
                0
                Quote: vorobey


                there you are



                study p. 32 laughing laughing

                And what kind of column should I look to see the subject of our conversation?
                I ask you not very difficult questions?
        3. figwam
          figwam 11 May 2018 12: 26
          +1
          Quote: Merold
          In America, much less people die from a gunshot per year than in Russia from kitchen knives and other household appliances.

          There are more policemen killing.
          1. Merold
            Merold 11 May 2018 13: 31
            0
            Quote: figvam
            Quote: Merold
            In America, much less people die from a gunshot per year than in Russia from kitchen knives and other household appliances.

            There are more policemen killing.

            Less. And this is included in the general data.
            The death toll includes victims of the police, according to the Washington Post, in 2017, US police killed 976 people (2016 - 963, 2015 - 995).
            https://aftershock.news/?q=node/601758&full

        4. 72jora72
          72jora72 11 May 2018 12: 28
          +2
          In America, much less people die from a gunshot per year than in Russia from kitchen knives and other household appliances.
          In the states, 64% of all violent deaths are caused by a firearm (this is about the free circulation of weapons)
          1. Ased
            Ased 11 May 2018 12: 40
            +1
            And yet - according to the law of the Russian Federation
            Everyone can buy at least a saiga.
            But many whine a lot that weapons are not allowed.
  5. Strashila
    Strashila 11 May 2018 12: 10
    +1
    It remains to upgrade our PPS and PPSh. Although the teaching staff actually even now looks modern.
  6. dok123
    dok123 11 May 2018 12: 15
    +3
    Powerful !!! They would have issued a Maxim tactical machine gun! )))))))
  7. sabakina
    sabakina 11 May 2018 12: 19
    +6
    Now "tactical."
    I did not understand, but what was he like before? Strategic?
    1. Orakul2000
      Orakul2000 11 May 2018 12: 58
      +1
      Intergalactic !!! Weapons for fighting at medium distances for Darth Vader !!
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 11 May 2018 13: 01
        +1
        Actually, Darth Vader, for the middle distances used the dark side of the force ....
        1. Orakul2000
          Orakul2000 11 May 2018 13: 05
          0
          Well, this is just in case the Dark Power Batteries are discharged, like a powerful trump card under a black cloak !! Nobody can expect such a trick from Darth Vader that there is Dark Thomson besides the Dark Force!
  8. Ferdinant
    Ferdinant 11 May 2018 12: 20
    0
    Yes, from the zombies will definitely go.
  9. cedar
    cedar 11 May 2018 12: 34
    0
    From an interview with a Soviet tanker who fought on tanks supplied by the Allies.

    - Dmitri, every Sherman, come in the Soviet Union was a personal weapon crew: Thompson machine. I have read that these weapons plundered the rear part and almost came to tankers. What kind of weapon did you have: the American or Soviet?

    - Each Sherman delivered two automatic Thompson. Caliber 11,43 mm - healthy such chuck! But the machine was worthless. We have had several cases. Guys, on the dispute, is worn on a pair of padded jacket departed, they were shot. And this bullet stuck quilted jackets! That was such a shitty machine. Here German submachine gun with folding stock (meaning the MP-40 submachine gun company Erma - V_P) we loved for compactness. A Thompson healthy - with him in the tank is not razverneshsya.
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 11 May 2018 12: 40
      +4
      Quote: cedar
      We had several cases. The guys, for an argument, put on a pair of quilted jackets, left, shot at them. And in a padded jacket this bullet stuck

      Mdya ... far away, apparently, retreated. And the quilted jackets were, well, oooh, very dirty ...
  10. alex-cn
    alex-cn 11 May 2018 12: 36
    0
    We polished the handle of a sledgehammer ...
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  13. seregatara1969
    seregatara1969 11 May 2018 16: 22
    0
    mafia dream
  14. Ased
    Ased 11 May 2018 18: 22
    0
    Quote: Merold
    Quote: vorobey
    Quote: ASed
    damn, you too lazy to google?


    his task is to troll and not google lol lol

    The man said, merged on the question of how, on May 3, the Su-35 dispersed the F-15 and F-16.


    I don’t understand where I am and where this topic is!
  15. armourer
    armourer 11 May 2018 19: 14
    0
    Carry out a deep PPSh tuning, to see a masterpiece. Thompson is not a classic.
  16. Catfish
    Catfish 11 May 2018 19: 18
    +1
    Quote: Shurik70
    And the lower one in the photo (historical) is more beautiful.
    By the way, it is not clear how the front handle is attached to the trunk on it. The mount is not visible.


    It is not attached to the trunk, there a rectangular pin sticks out of the receiver, and they are attached to it.
    But in general - rage with fat and forge money. There the whole box is milled, and the rest of the details, too. It weighs like a good weight, since it extinguishes the return by weight. Already during the war the fighters tried to replace this complex and expensive construction with something simpler; “Raising”, M3, but still, he remained in service with him for a long time.
    Now, someone with nothing to do, we need to tinker with the PCA in Photoshop, the same “blaster” will work out. winked
  17. 135lm
    135lm 12 May 2018 21: 22
    0
    And what is the meaning of this masterpiece?