Senate limousine. New presidential car

The new limousine of Russian President Vladimir Putin, fully produced in Russia from Russian components, was named the "Senate Limousine", said his host, author of a film about the new presidential cortege, Dmitry Shchugorev, on the Russia 24 channel.

This is the same car family "Aurus", the crown of which is just the same limousine that you saw, with the state number in 776us 77. But the number is not important here, it is important to just find out about the car itself, because in fact the car that you saw is a representative of a whole family, the limousine is called "Senate Limousine". This family also has a sedan, it is simply called the "Senate". Also, you didn’t see this model today, but it will soon be presented, this is an MPV - minibus, it is called Arsenal. All the names of this automotive family, they are in tune with the towers of the Kremlin

- he said.

According to Shchugorev, the length of the limousine is 6 meters 62 centimeters, width - two meters, height - 1,695 meters, ground clearance - 200 millimeters.

What kind of engine was installed in this car? All the time they were talking about some kind of “Tsar-engine”, calling this engine the engine that was really developed, it is now at the Research Institute of Automotive and Automotive Research. So, this engine - horsepower 800 - is there, but in the car that you saw today, the horsepower 598 engine, V8, the twin-turbo 4 engine and 4 liter are installed

- the journalist added, transfers RIA News

Comments

[morpogr]

Finally, it’s worthless for the president and guarantor to drive and advertise a German Mercedes.

[figwam]

The Senate Limo is better than the Lada-Sedan-Eggplant.) Reminds an elite Rolls-Royce.
It would be logical now, on the basis of these models, to begin mass production of new domestic cars.

[faiver]

he has a price tag and service will be space ....

[Vladimir K.]

A pulman limousine from a Mercedes, think cheaper?

[faiver]

Pulman-limousine Mercedes consider the production model - yes it is cheaper ...

[Vladimir K.]

Pullman is not serial, in the sense that it is made in batches. Each machine is a piece of goods and, as a rule, for customers of this machine, the price is of secondary importance, if not tertiary. And here also the status of the leader of one of the leading powers goes down when he moves on a foreign-made transport - there’s no money at all for the money! Another bonus is the refusal to purchase very expensive cars from our potential enemy - it is better to spend budget money on supporting their own manufacturers, especially since they can definitely make piece goods no worse than German.

[Letun]

Quote: Vladimir K.

A pulman limousine from a Mercedes, think cheaper?

I am sure about that

[Alone]

Quote: faiver

he has a price tag

I heard today the cost - 10 mln. Rubles. But it seems to me that they somehow modestly voiced ..

[Dr. David Livesey]

Lada in normal configuration is almost a million, and the presidential limousine in armor is 10 ??? What do you think? Apart from the established connection and other equipment, unfortunately, inaccessible to the owners of Lad?

[Alone]

Quote: Dr. David livesey

What do you think?

Quote: Alone

But it seems to me that they somehow modestly voiced ..

[sir_obs]

Quote: morpogr

new domestic cars.

Everything needs to be transferred to the tracked platform. There will be no need for roads, foreign cars will not pass, which means there will be no need to buy them, everything is only domestic. And in the case of what, they put each combat module and forward.
All hares at once with one shot.

[MoJloT]

Bold, fresh, original and very suitable for our roads.

[faiver]

20 centimeter ride height of the limo killed

[ustinov.yuri]

Che this, killed something? With its wheelbase and width - tightly.

[faiver]

Mercedes 150mm, Lincoln 160mm

[Alex777]

Protection against undermining. What's so funny? The higher the bottom, the closer it will fly.

[kirgiz58]

Quote: sir_obs

Everything needs to be transferred to the tracked platform. There will be no need for roads, foreign cars will not pass, which means there will be no need to buy them, everything is only domestic. And in the case of what, they put each combat module and forward.

This is all there already. Armata is called. In the presidential only VIP salon is leather and Conder with a bar, well, plus special communications and a place for attaching a nuclear briefcase. And do not think anything. And the bonus will always be "and the commander is ahead on a dashing horse" - the trampamps will go nuts (from the word gay ), especially if the Supreme Person attends a UN meeting at it, the answer to our proposals will be 100% support, even hexagons will not stand.

[Simargl]

Quote: figvam

It would be logical now, on the basis of these models, to begin mass production of new domestic cars.

car based on these models for owner frets-eggplant sedan will not be available.
Such a machine will cost five million without a special body kit (from armor to communications)

[Albert1988]

Quote: Simargl

A car based on these models will not be available for the owner of the fret-sedan-eggplant.
Such a machine will cost five million without a special body kit (from armor to communications)

So it seems like a couple of months ago they said that the price of the serial "for the mass consumer" will be somewhere around 6 million.

[Simargl]

How does this contradict what I said? Owner frets-eggplant sedan cannot transfer to a mass senate-limousine - there will not be enough money.
For example, I have all the property cheaper (I own a Lada-sedan-non-eggplant ).

[Bad_santa]

It does not even turn out to take the body with this limousine. not to mention everything else. You can take only an ashtray if it is in it

[Simargl]

Quote: Bad_Santa

It’s not even possible to take the body with this limousine

Well, why? The body is about 20% of the cost of a passenger car.

[Cxnumx]

Quote: figvam

It would be logical now, on the basis of these models, to begin mass production of new domestic cars.

and there is our engine? How much is it "domestic"?

[NEXUS]

Quote: K0

and there is our engine? How much is it "domestic"?

Our engine. But they invited Porsche specialists to help establish and bring to mind the engine.

[Cxnumx]

Quote: NEXUS

Our engine. But they invited Porsche specialists to help establish and bring to mind the engine.

then ok. otherwise they’ll build something “domestic”, but inside it’s all over the hill, only the stickers are re-glued.

[Simargl]

Quote: K0

otherwise they’ll build something “domestic”, but inside it’s all over the hill, only the stickers are re-glued.

Kamaz, VAZ - 40-60% because of the hill.

[Hire]

You need to remember the number. It will be inconvenient if, suddenly, it cuts and I swear it.

[Fedalex]

Indeed, we must remember, all of a sudden, I will "cut it" ....

[Corporal Pupkin]

Don’t worry Comrade Hire!
"you EVEN do not have time to open your mouth ..."

[Misha Honest]

Quote: morpogr

Finally, it’s worthless for the president and guarantor to drive and advertise a German Mercedes.

All the same, people - if only they did not interfere with their flashing lights. Yes, traffic jams were not created.

[ARES623]

Quote: Misha Honest

All the same, people - if only they did not interfere with their flashing lights. Yes, traffic jams were not created.

Do not strain for the people. And with traffic jams and without flashing lights will have to come to terms. Moscow, according to its infrastructure, can accommodate 5-7 million under normal conditions, 12,5 million are registered, and actually lives with newcomers, according to various estimates, from 15 to 17 million. It will soon crack and without flashing lights.

[Misha Honest]

Quote: ARES623

Do not strain for the people.

Want to say that I am not from among the people? ) By the way, I always speak only for myself. I try at least.

[ARES623]

Quote: Misha Honest

Want to say that I am not from among the people? )

You are right, you are from among the people. Like me from the same number, but I am pleased to see my president in a domestic car. What they showed on TV before the "entry" seemed to me not at all bad. I consider the billions poured by the state into their industry to be the right investment, because how they will disperse through different channels into the pockets of the same parts of the people as we are with you. What's bad about it?

[Misha Honest]

Quote: ARES623

Quote: Misha Honest

Want to say that I am not from among the people? )

You are right, you are from among the people. Like me from the same number, but I am pleased to see my president in a domestic car. What they showed on TV before the "entry" seemed to me not at all bad. I consider the billions poured by the state into their industry to be the right investment, because how they will disperse through different channels into the pockets of the same parts of the people as we are with you. What's bad about it?

You know, your naivety and faith in the boyars touches me. Especially about billions.

[ARES623]

Quote: Misha Honest

You know, your naivety and faith in the boyars touches me. Especially about billions.

Come on, enlighten me in my naivety. Maybe the developers paid the seeds, and the contractors for the accessories with toilet paper? I fully imagine that the wages of workers, craftsmen, general directors are expressed in different, even very different figures. But they will be in rubles, and through someone’s pockets they will make momentum in the economy of our territories, not German. And if you are a member of the "witnesses in the case" sect, it remains for me to regret you.

[Misha Honest]

Quote: ARES623

Quote: Misha Honest

You know, your naivety and faith in the boyars touches me. Especially about billions.

Come on, enlighten me in my naivety. Maybe the developers paid the seeds, and the contractors for the accessories with toilet paper? I fully imagine that the wages of workers, craftsmen, general directors are expressed in different, even very different figures. But they will be in rubles, and through someone’s pockets they will make momentum in the economy of our territories, not German. And if you are a member of the "witnesses in the case" sect, it remains for me to regret you.

To avoid this, it is necessary to return the death penalty. Of course, this is not a panacea, but 90 percent of crooks and bribe-takers will be taken away for sure. In the USSR it worked, in present-day China it works. So why not bring back good practice to begin with. And then new methods of punishment you look and will appear ...

[ARES623]

Quote: Misha Honest

In the USSR it worked, in present-day China it works. So why not bring back good practice to begin with. And then new methods of punishment you look and will appear ...

Do you own statistics? The USSR is a completely different country, but all our "lame legs" come from time to time. In China, there are generally opposing opinions, and in addition a completely different mentality. I think not the death penalty, but the inevitability of punishment - that is what can have a positive effect, but it is not a panacea for all ills. Education in people of responsibility for themselves, their future - this is not a superfluous quality for our fellow citizens. And then we’re sitting here, moaning for a bad life, the wrong prime minister, for officials and teachers, doctors and a house manager. Everyone is guilty except the "I". This is what destroys us to a greater extent. After all, the bribe taker takes when he gives him such a "displeased". To invent new punishments is no more stupid business. They have been invented for thousands of years not to be counted. But to motivate the closest and dearest, your children, to systematic study and achievement of decent living conditions, yourself to work and achievements - that’s not very successful.

[Misha Honest]

Quote: ARES623

Do you own statistics? The USSR is a completely different country, but all our "lame legs" come from time to time. In China, there are generally opposing opinions, and in addition a completely different mentality. I think not the death penalty, but the inevitability of punishment - that is what can have a positive effect, but it is not a panacea for all ills. Education in people of responsibility for themselves, their future - this is not a superfluous quality for our fellow citizens. And then we’re sitting here, moaning for a bad life, the wrong prime minister, for officials and teachers, doctors and a house manager. Everyone is guilty except the "I". This is what destroys us to a greater extent. After all, the bribe taker takes when he gives him such a "displeased". To invent new punishments is no more stupid business. They have been invented for thousands of years not to be counted. But to motivate the closest and dearest, your children, to systematic study and achievement of decent living conditions, yourself to work and achievements - that’s not very successful.

I don’t know about moaning, BUT if the authorities do not plan to educate the people in consciousness, then what are we talking about here? They are stupidly beneficial for the people to behave this way, because if everyone is dishonest, then it is easier to steal.
Probably only Beria owned statistics. )))
And our life - good or bad, depends primarily on the same officials, government or boyars - this is a fact. So moan, don’t moan - nifiga doesn’t depend on you here. And if the government is crooks, then the country is the same.

[ARES623]

Quote: Misha Honest

And our life - good or bad, depends primarily on

ourselves! And what we do out of this life will be. And the government in the country is not to make paradise in the state, but that there is no hell.

Quote: Misha Honest

And if the government is crooks, then the country is the same.

But this is almost a crime. Put the surname, and you can already calculate the term. To call someone a crook, i.e. accuse of committing a crime, a court verdict has entered into force.
And as you do, then almost - Art. 128.1 of the Criminal Code 1. Defamation, that is, the dissemination of knowingly false information, discrediting the honor and dignity of another person or undermining his reputation, is punishable by a fine in the amount of up to five hundred thousand rubles or in the amount of the convicted person’s salary or other income for a period of up to six months or mandatory works for up to one hundred and sixty hours.

You probably are not against justice? And to be honest, I would not want the authorities to apply the educational measures available to them. I think you too. So, educate yourself, this is less painful .... Regarding the work of the state in the matter of "education", look at how much we have in places of deprivation of freedom per 100 people. Compare with other countries. Rate the result.

[wlkw]

toilet paper contractors

rubles, responsibly assure, as involved.

[ARES623]

Quote: wlkw

rubles, responsibly assure, as involved.

Here is the answer to Misha Honest. Better to pay your producer than feed someone else's. Well, not everything is being stolen from us ... And in the government there are people who worry about the country no less than ours. IMHO

[Alf]

Quote: ARES623

And in the government there are people who worry about the country no less than ours.

Is the list possible?

[ARES623]

Quote: Alf

Is the list possible?

Instead of a list, I recommend that you familiarize yourself with the presumption of innocence. I consider the list to be useless. And what are your reasons to consider otherwise? What do you personally manage? How close are they to the government apparatus? Or the ubiquitous OBS?

[Alex777]

The global automotive industry development program has been adopted. If they don’t take all the money (like at a spaceport), but spend it on business, we will have gas supply and good cars.

[Lord of the Sith]

Video to the news

[Misha Honest]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

Video to the news

The Donetsk people certainly have to do with GDP.

[72jora72]

The Donetsk people certainly have to do with GDP.

And why not, do you have any kind of prejudice towards the Donetsk team ??

[Misha Honest]

Quote: 72jora72

The Donetsk people certainly have to do with GDP.

And why not, do you have any kind of prejudice towards the Donetsk team ??

Well, in the first place, GDP is unlikely to be driven around Donetsk. Yet an unrecognized republic.
And secondly, my prejudice is definitely not for the guys from LDNR. I have nothing but friendship and love for brothers (don’t vulgarize).

[72jora72]

Well, in the first place, GDP is unlikely to be driven around Donetsk. Yet an unrecognized republic.

Everything in the world is changeable, today it is not recognized, and tomorrow .....................

[Grandfather Makar]

The new one is not really shown ... Secret! And it pleases.. Let the bastards scream ...

[Fedalex]

Thank you, Vladyka - you, as always, are at your best ...

[Semen1972]

Quote: morpogr

Finally, it’s worthless for the president and guarantor to drive and advertise a German Mercedes.

Mercedes does not need advertising. All deputies and members of the Federation Council normally use German cars .. can they be transplanted to the Volga, as Nemtsov wanted? But then ordinary Russians on our only cars. It’s not good to feed enemies !!!!

[faiver]

ordinary Russians themselves earn on their cars, unlike the Duma and government parasites ...

[Alex777]

And while I don’t feel like ours.
But on Mondeo in Vsevolozhsk collected, in a full cycle, I go with pleasure. Right now I’m going to take the third one. Explorer

[Fedalex]

Hooray, long live the apologist Nemtsov, or the apologist "Volga" - come and sprinkle my car, but to Nemtsov, this is ... "that light"!

[Siberianwolf]

Very close in fact) Once upon a time on the Volga it was) http://avto-nomer.ru/ru/nomer4229602

[iouris]

To evaluate what is done, you need more detailed information about the power plant, suspension, ABS, ESP, sensors, computer systems and their software and the effectiveness of protection from outside interference.

[Ivan Tarava]

It was evident that the GDP was setting and leaving was not convenient. And he does not look like our car, some kind of stranger. As the Chinese from all cars took a piece. Well, let it be at least that, and not Mercedes. The main thing that would not break.

[NEXUS]

The Cortege project is not only a presidential limousine. And, in principle, hope is placed on him about the reanimation of our domestic automobile industry. But for a sedan, minivan, SUV, the price can be very unpleasant ... therefore, you need to be patient and discuss the news after the presentation.

[Semen1972]

Quote: NEXUS

And, in principle, hope is placed on him about the reanimation of our domestic automobile industry

Who exactly assigns? Are you + production director?)))

[NEXUS]

Quote: Semen1972

Who exactly assigns? Are you + production director?)))

Actually, I'm not the only one ... The idea of ​​the Cortege project is to create cars no worse than Western cars, but from domestic ones. And to create not only a limousine for the president, but also a whole line of cars for ordinary people.
And it's easy to jerk. Sitting on the couch and stupidly troll with a smart look.

[Vadim237]

This car will cost like the new Bentley Continental GT, and they will be made several hundred a year - then premium cars.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Vadim237

This car will cost like the new Bentley Continental GT, several hundred cars a year will make such cars - then premium cars.

So they are not intended for ordinary people, but for those who can afford it. It's not for nothing that I said that the Cortege project is not only a limousine, but also a crossover, a sedan and a minivan ... this is not a single car project for the president, but this is a project to create cars for ordinary and not very simple citizens no worse than imported ones, but from his ...

[wlkw]

They say (that the chickens are milked) that there will be mass versions, although the concept of mass is very arbitrary and the price tag is unlikely to be popular. On the other hand, there are also enough wealthy people.
Here glavnon that would not screwed up with quality.

[Deck]

And it's easy to jerk. Sitting on the couch and stupidly troll with a smart look.

It’s also easy to suck out any garbage from your finger

[NEXUS]

Quote: Deck

It’s also easy to suck out any garbage from your finger

I don’t care? Dear wise guy, tell me what do you personally know about the Cortege project? I just beg you, without blowing bubbles with the smart look of an expert.

[MoJloT]

101 attempts to launch a car for bureaucrats and rich people assembled, more or less from Russian components, more or less in Russia. Only before that, the lards were swelling into the GAZ, now they will roll back at the UAZ. It’s one thing, as in this case, to assemble a working, unique, space-expensive copy in the NAMI laboratory (there are hundreds of examples, then NAMI is there), it’s another thing to put it into production, to make “affordable” and attractive people, a competitor to Maybach, Rolls- Royce, Bentley, BEAST ... not only in price and quality, assembly options, but also after sales service. THOSE. new plants and a whole industry should appear in Russia. Expediency of all this? (Well, if you do not consider the cut)

[MoJloT]

For example, only a plant that must be competitive

[Deck]

A bit: the engine was developed by Porsche, an armored capsule from the W-221st Pullman, 12 billion rubles., The president drove home in his old Mercedes

[MoJloT]

12 billion rubles. this is exactly as much as is allocated for the development of agriculture in the country or for the social welfare of Khabarovsk, or for the roads of Altai, or for the development of the Arctic ... or for how much subsidies for the space industry are cut ... In short, I just sawed nothing personal.

[Semen1972]

Quote: NEXUS

The idea of ​​the Cortege project is to create cars no worse than Western ones,

And such an idea in everything, actually. And so that the clothes were no worse than electronics and airplanes and trains, etc., etc. But for some reason we can’t move from idea to implementation. If you know something, then tell us why we will suddenly make cars better (sorry, no worse) than Germans and Japanese, and what hindered doing earlier?

[faiver]

to create not only a limousine for the president, but also a whole line of cars and for ordinary people

- Remind the average salary in the country of ordinary people?

[ARES623]

Quote: faiver

- Remind the average salary in the country of ordinary people?

And who is the “simple man”?

[Your honor]

Management began to change to our car industry?

[Semen1972]

Quote: Your Honor

Management began to change to our car industry?

200 m ready to ride this Rolls-Royce .. not more)))

[Enoch]

The current view is painfully German.

[NEXUS]

Quote: monk

The current view is painfully German.

But should it be Soviet-looking, as if they were cutting an ax?

[onix757]

The car of the head of state must be unique and reflect the capabilities of domestic industry. In this car, in which node, unit, the capabilities of the domestic automotive industry are reflected?

[NEXUS]

Quote: onix757

In this car, in which node, unit, the capabilities of the domestic automotive industry are reflected?

Excuse me, after the government’s ZIL, did we create limousines in general? And from scratch and with a domestic engine not 20 hp? What about a mini van?
The fact that this limousine is classically sustained means that it is the right limousine. Take a look at Lincoln, Cadillac, Mercedes ... do they look screaming? So why should our limousine be different? Girls ride? Or carry potatoes to the cottage?
For me, our limousine looks cool, no worse than Mercedes and Lincoln with Rolls Royces.

[onix757]

Not created, so you need to create. It is not appropriate for a country claiming to be a world power to assemble a constructor from imported kits worth a billion dollars.

[Merold]

Quote: NEXUS

Quote: onix757

In this car, in which node, unit, the capabilities of the domestic automotive industry are reflected?

Excuse me, after the government’s ZIL, did we create limousines in general? And from scratch and with a domestic engine not 20 hp?

What other domestic dvigunom? What are you talking about?

[Deck]

our limousine looks cool, no worse than Mercedes

Of course not worse:

[wlkw]

Those. In the form of a tank ?????

[72jora72]

But should it be Soviet-looking, as if they were cutting an ax?

Yes! and Timothy driving as a driver

[Lena Petrova]

His appearance should be traditionally - classic. And the color. Here the frames are very narrow. This is not a Ferrari for riders.

[Zaurbek]

... British sooner.

[Merold]

Quote: monk

The current view is painfully German.

I didn’t notice. As for me, it's a normal view. Strict, concise and respectable. Here is the usual (not elongated version) in my opinion it will be much easier to look.

[mavrus]

Yes, there is clearly no order with the license plate number.

[DarkMatter]

There was not enough money for a cooler

[uav80]

everything is fine today. May 7, the day of the VUS-776 signalman is a specialty in the repair and storage of photo-telegraph equipment ...

[melelele]

776 is the victory of our national team at the 2018 World Hockey Championship: D
7-0
7-0
6-0

[Siberianwolf]

[media = http: //avto-nomer.ru/ru/nomer4229602]
Once hung on this)

[onix757]

Good Rolls Royce

[Vadim237]

Generally this is a Porsche.

[sabakina]

Or maybe Bentley ....

[sagitch]

All cars are alike! Hood, interior, trunk! The main thing is WHO inside!

[Normal ok]

Quote: sagitch

All cars are alike! Hood, interior, trunk! The main thing is WHO inside!

Yes, everyone is alike. Yes, that's just Mercedes and Toyota are more like the rest of the normal cars.

[Nasrat]

Toyota is not worth the money that they ask for in our country ... it’s better to add a little and take a German .. (personal experience)

[72jora72]

Toyota is not worth the money that they ask for it in our country

Pure Japanese (especially made for the USA), much better than machines made for Europe, (personal experience)

[Nasrat]

Here I agree with you .. they do crap for us, samurai ....

[faiver]

pure Japanese, especially made for the domestic market, finally fire ..., all of Siberia and the Far East to the Urals know about this ...

[Merold]

Quote: Nasr

Toyota is not worth the money that they ask for in our country ... it’s better to add a little and take a German .. (personal experience)

The Germans rest compared to Toyota for reliability.

[Pissarro]

Compared to Toyota, everything rests in reliability. No wonder the barmalei use them, they bombed the service and killed the mechanics as very smart, and the car plows for years)

[Grandfather Makar]

New limousine, new Russia! And then the Germans rode ... All gentlemen, we are entering a new era of mother Russia!
Squeal not squeal, but ours will take!

[Alf]

Quote: Ded-Makar

Squeal not squeal, but ours will take!

In what?

[Tomato]

And any Merkel can allow her to develop and release a car in a single copy, at the price of a space rocket? But Putin can, and the Germans are envious.
And the fact that these machines "buy" no more than a dozen very close, I have no doubt.
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“For example, the development of a completely new model from a sketch to a production car costs today a billion dollars, if it’s an SUV - two billion. This information is not a secret, on the contrary, it is very much voiced by representatives of automakers ...."
But this is for multinational companies, where huge teams work, old engineering schools, experience, traditions and cooperation.

[Tarasve]

Quote: onix757

Good Rolls Royce

At the moment, so many cars have been released that any car is like someone else.

[Tarasios]

Quote: Ivan Tarava

It was evident that the GDP was setting and leaving was not convenient. And he does not look like our car, some kind of stranger. As the Chinese from all cars took a piece. Well, let it be at least that, and not Mercedes. The main thing that would not break.

C'mon - a limo, like a limo. It looks quite finished. I watched in a special way the video with the “new car”, and the photo where Putin “climbs out” of the representative Mears is also quite “up and down”. Moves, performs its functions (protection, communication, etc.), even beeps (well, I think so :)) - what else is needed?
But in general - there is also a tribute to etiquette. Women (politicians' wives) ignite this with all their colors and styles, and jealously look at other women, so that they don’t “put on something like that”. And the men are practically in the same suits - and nothing, norms)

[Altona]

Quote: Ivan Tarava

As the Chinese from all cars took a piece. Well, let it be at least that, and not Mercedes.

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Rolls-Benz or some kind of Bentlides, judging by the face ...

[Svarog51]

It is necessary to tackle and repaint your NIVA in the NIVA-President. The Senate Limo is too expensive for me, and it won’t enter the garage.

[sabakina]

Privet Seryoga? Your Niva? They seem to give us a five-door, so I’ll come to bother you! And on the topic .... I like government ZIL more.

[Svarog51]

Hello, Glory! I would wash my own, but tint, and you

poke around

I also like the ZIL-114. This new one looks a lot like a foreign car.

[igor67]

. Zil 114 is a copy of Lincoln, the Soviet ambassador to the United States purchased a car for the USSR

[Svarog51]

Igor Like does not mean like that. He served as a role model for the motor-car, but the “offal” are different. Even the angle of the windshield is different. This Senator Limousine reminds me of nothing but Maybach. But their "gut" is different. Then I’ll be silent, so as not to mess up.

[Denis Obukhov]

We are also expecting an SUV, a minibus and a lightweight version of a sedan with engines from the Yaroslavl Motor Plant with power from 250 to 600 hp

[Vadim237]

"We expect another SUV, with engines of the Yaroslavl Motor Plant with power from 250 to 600 hp." - Based on KAMAZ.

[K-50]

The false radiator grill, in my opinion, is a bit too big in height. If you reduce it by two approximately, it would look more harmonious. Or maybe there are problems with the temperature regime of the engine and therefore so much was needed?

[race]

Quote: K-50

Or maybe there are problems with the temperature regime of the engine and therefore so much was needed?

You are astute just like a wang! 600 horsepower motor! Which radiator do you think is needed to cool it?

[Merold]

Quote: Rasen

600 horsepower motor! Which radiator do you think is needed to cool it?

Huge.

[Heterocapsa]

24 in Russia promised a film about this machine to show.

[AnpeL]

it didn’t even stall ... it’s probably still a Mercedes, but the shell is skolkovo

[Laayoune]

And once this number quietly lay behind the glass of the half-dead Volga)

[Svarog51]

Not clear data.

[Laayoune]

Specially found data on this car on a specialized resource for license plate enthusiasts. They fight with the left numbers on a professional basis)
http://avto-nomer.ru/ru/nomer4229602
There, by the way, are funny comments))

[Abram]

Own motor I doubt very much. And what is the cost of the entire project? whether sovereigns are not expensive?

[Merold]

Quote: Abram

Own motor I doubt very much. And what is the cost of the entire project? whether sovereigns are not expensive?

Yes Porshevsky motor there, do not worry.

[Vadim237]

I think around 10 million rubles per car.

[Abram]

ten? God be with you) Ordinary gelik, 10, starting from 2018. And there you can still wind up any. If you believe that the car is completely your own, that is, take into account R&D, a small series, then maybe 8 or even all 30. Or maybe more. Who knows how much the same Mercedes costs launching a series of cars of this class? It is also necessary to take into account the fact that Merc has developments, for example, an engine, and it is not necessary to spend on its development

[win9090]

The leadership of the "superpower" is fattening ... and 22 million Russians live below the poverty line, just like in Africa.

[tuts]

can you link to the numbers where it says that 22 million people in Russia live in Africa?
And then some kind of unfounded statement is obtained

[Pissarro]

Gentlemen believe in words)

[win9090]

Go to the website of the Accounts Chamber and see.

[tuts]

http://www.ach.gov.ru вот сайт зашел про уровень бедность там не слова. Пожалуйста давайте информацию с ссылками, а то я сильно сомневаюсь что уровень бедности у нас и в странах Африки это одно и то же

[Alf]

Quote: win9090

and 22 million Russians live below the poverty line,

They did not fit into the market.

[win9090]

1/5 of the country's population.

[123456789]

Fse What the hand of our man touched turns into gold!

[tuts]

normal random number keep it up !!!!

[Wolka]

Well, yes, now Kadyrov will vomit his own kind ...

[race]

So, this engine - 800 horsepower - is there, but in the car that you saw today, there is a 598 horsepower engine, a V8, a 4 and 4 liter biturbo engine

Judging by the power - the engine from the tank. On such a machine, yes with such a motor, you can fly.
Yes, and the question to the author of the article: what kind of volume is "4 and 4 liters"? Two times 4 liters? Or did the author record by ear, but to understand that this means 4,4 liters, there was not enough knowledge, because he had skipped the lesson at the school of mathematics, at which they explained this?

[Vadim237]

Motor as on SRTshkah.

[Olegi1]

Quote: NEXUS

The Cortege project is not only a presidential limousine. And, in principle, hope is placed on him about the reanimation of our domestic automobile industry. But for a sedan, minivan, SUV, the price can be very unpleasant ... therefore, you need to be patient and discuss the news after the presentation.

By the way, for information. The profit margin on the sale of a premium car (such as a Mercedes S, BMW 7, Rolls Rouse, etc.) by all manufacturers is laid much higher than in a small car. Another thing, not everyone can do them. Therefore, I welcome the appearance of this class of car in Russia. Subcompacts we have more or less mastered.

[Vadim237]

"We have more or less mastered subcompacts." "Lada Kalina - sport"

[sabotage]

Quote: Olegi1

The rate of return for the sale of premium cars

It is laid down subject to the implementation of the sales plan. And all the time they are not executed in the premium class. So premium cars are almost always unprofitable and manufacturers need, first of all, to position the mass segment.

[Olegi1]

Very far from always. The most striking example is the Porsche Cayenne. As far as I remember, the plan was blocked dozens of times. Google, I will not argue.

[sabotage]

An exception only confirms the rule. In addition, the Cayenne SUV rather than a representative car. He has a niche wider.

[Tequilla]

We looked at the inauguration just to see how the GDP would come on it. Almost everyone agreed that this is a copy of Rawls and old Maybach. Engine and gearbox (most likely) from Porsche. It will be interesting to watch a film about how much our car is.
They also showed that there were more interesting and original projects of the Cortege

[Vadim237]

Did not guess - our engine and automatic gearbox are the same.

[sabotage]

Quote: Vadim237

Did not guess - our engine and automatic gearbox are the same.

Did they work according to the Chinese scheme imported?

[Merold]

Quote: Vadim237

Did not guess - our engine and automatic gearbox are the same.

For a limousine, the engine is really Russian. In appearance and blue electrical tape is visible.

[wlkw]

Quote: faiver

to remind the average salary in the country of ordinary people?

this is not for average people with average salaries and they also have their own demand

[top_war_shit]

let them sell for export for the rich

[Olegi1]

And why only for export? I wouldn’t imagine an armored limousine, but I would have bought a jeep from the same series. Subject to the service corresponding to the premium class of the car. I will quote the instructions (I don’t remember the year) for the Rolls-Royce owner: “If your car breaks down, your driver knows what to do” :) Of course, I myself love driving, but the meaning is clear. In general, I went to work for a Russian jeep. What I wish to everyone.

[Alf]

ARES623,
Just look at the results of the government.

[CYM]

Quote: ARES623

Regarding the work of the state in the matter of “upbringing”, look at how much we have in places of detention per 100 people. Compare with other countries. Rate the result.

In fact, the United States leads in the number of prisoners in absolute terms - about 2,2 million people are in jail. This is 25% of all prisoners on the planet (more than in the 35 largest European countries combined, and 40% more than in China), although the US population is only 5% of the world's population.
I agree with you, our problem is not in the insufficient severity of punishment, but in the almost complete absence of a feeling in people of the inevitability of a fair punishment for a crime. A vivid example and anti-advertising of a law-abiding lifestyle is the work of Vasilyeva.

[stone]

Really it was impossible to come up with something original, and not copy the Rolls-Royce face

[Laksamana besar]

The idea was taken from ZIS-110, and not from Rolls-Royce.

[stone]

The idea of ​​having a member? Yes. A muzzle Rolls-Royce

[uav80]

VUS number means "Vladimir rules the country"

[The_X_Factor]

ARES623, OBS, naturally. This is an adherent of the sect of the "Great and infallible Soviet Union", and probably the years 70-80s.